Harry and Meghan to step back as senior royals

[Curryong]

Exactly @wannable. If people stop clicking and roaming on those tabloid sites, the companies will slow down the number of articles. Every time a reader clicks on an article or the comments, they signal that they want more of the same.

Well, perhaps it would back that up here if EVERYBODY would cease linking Fail and other tabloids' articles, which I've noticed are usually stories containing anti-Meghan reports. Many of them are proven by later events to be lies anyway.

[wannable]

The forum posters have linked everything and everyone of the press.  Including Avocado and Terrorist article journalist Camilla Tominey. 

Avocado crime, she got that one from Netflix documentary of the extremist environmentalist leftist socialists episode 1 of ''if you eat avocado think who you are helping, the ganstas, criminals of Mexico, the water is all and for Chile production of avocados, whilst the neighbouring village of the avocado fields are for real dying of thirst, no water.   Don't criticize me, I am just stating where she got the information and idea of the avocado.

Terrorists Mosque Kitchen, her source is high official government from a 'security', with no name names giving the number of loons that go there for breakfast lunch and dinner. 

[TLLK]

So they could say something nice about Meghan for a change and still get clicks.

Absolutely true and they have done that for her over the months that she was engaged to Prince Harry and later after she married him.

Meghan Markle fresh air for Monarchy after Prince Harry Royal Wedding | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Meghan Markle proves to be a breath of fresh air in breaking this one royal rule - Independent.ie

[sandy]

Meghan got unfavorable comments (articles in DM )and on blogs from the get go. I remember the petition circulating very vividly.

[TLLK]

^^^She also received thousands upon hundreds of  thousands of favorable comments as well at blogs, tabloid comment forums, royal discussion forums, and on social media.  :happy:

People were thrilled that she and Prince  Harry became engaged, married and had a baby together as she was welcomed as a member of the BRF. :wub:

I have yet to read of any royal fiancee who has never had an unfavorable comment written about them on any online forum or on social media.

[sandy]

Unfortunately, these often get "shouted down" so to speak.

[TLLK]

Likewise, I've recently read from those who had concerns about Meghan  Markle marrying Prince Harry that they were "shouted down" if they voiced anything that was deemed "unfavorable." :shrug:

[wannable]

H and M have the potential to cater and make money with the public that like what they did and are doing now; leftists, republicans, minorities in race, religion and wokeness and snowflakeness, who else.  If everyone of these people like, listen and actually helped them with coin, they will make minimum GBP 500Million/1 USD from 500Million people a year from the 7 Billion population. 

[TLLK]

?Meghan's week in Canada sets clear intentions for the royal couple's future

The Duchess of Sussex could not have been clearer this week in expressing her intentions for the future.

She is going to do things her own way, with her own ?team? who will carefully control her public image and determine what and how is presented to the world.

Having left her husband, Prince Harry, 35, in the UK to begin the complex negotiations over their break away from the Royal Family, the Duchess wasted no time in getting down to business, visiting two charities in Vancouver - Justice For Girls and the Downtown Eastside Women's Centre.

These were ?private? visits and as such, did not appear on the Court Circular. They did however, by no accident, appear in the public domain.

Zoe Craig-Sparrow, a co-director of Justice For Girls, which "promotes health, well-being, equal rights and freedom from violence for teenage girls who live in poverty," has revealed that photographs taken of the Duchess with members of her staff were taken by one of her ?team?.


The visit was made public only when the charity published those pictures on Twitter and only when the Duchess had apparently approved the text and given them the green light.

Asked whether they had run the tweets past their royal visitor, Ms Craig-Sparrow told the Telegraph: ?Yeah, and we wanted to ensure that what we were putting forward was an accurate representation of the meeting - we thought it went really well, but obviously we want to make sure that was reciprocated.?

On why the tweet was delayed for almost a day, she added: ?It was really important to us that it?s a positive working relationship, and really addressing the issues was important. Not getting it out as soon as possible. We wanted to make sure that we could properly capture our meaning and that we were ready to handle the inevitable calls that we would be receiving.?
Unusually, neither visit has been announced on the Sussex Royal Instagram account, which is used by the couple to inform their followers of the work they undertake.

But the manner in which they were orchestrated is indicative of how the Sussexes are likely to conduct themselves in the future.

Their new rules of engagement, as outlined on their new Sussex Royal website, will see traditional royal reporters cast aside in favour of ?specialist media?, ?young up-and-coming" reporters and outlets they consider ?credible?.

This article observed the differences in how the Duchess' engagements in the UK were typically publicized : CC, Sussex Royal Instagram, Royal Family Twitter, formerly via KP social media and how they were covered in Canada.

[Curryong]

Yes and intentions are also clear from the British Press, adopt a sniffy sneering tone now they are no longer on the inside, cast as much shade as possible on the couple, do a lot of inferring about how they are going to behave in each article etc etc.

What is equally clear is that these two charities are highly delighted with the (inter)national spotlight cast on them and thus treated the visits from Meghan with kid gloves. I don't quite know about the motive for the gift of over a thousand dollars worth of jewellery though, from the administrators of a charity helping the disadvantaged. And I hope that pendant necklace was just borrowed from the gallery and returned afterwards. It wouldn't be the first time the British Press has misrepresented the facts.

[wannable]

Yes, your second paragraph, IMO hopefully it was a loan.  It doesn't look good that a charity for the poor gifted her a beautiful whale tail of gold with a encrusted diamond.  :no:

[Princess Cassandra]

I'm wondering when the family will get to see the baby again. Prince Louis is close in age, and if things had gone differently they may have grown up as cousin friends. In my experience there is nothing better than to have a few cousin friends.

[QueenAlex]

I'm wondering when the family will get to see the baby again. Prince Louis is close in age, and if things had gone differently they may have grown up as cousin friends. In my experience there is nothing better than to have a few cousin friends.

I don't know if it was ever that likely.  Of course they would meet up at times but with the Sussexes living in Windsor and the Cambs in Kensington, they were not going to go to the same nursery schools or meet up at playgroups...

[sandy]

They can still grow up as cousin friends. The family is spending time in the UK each year.

George gets along with his Phillips cousins and they don't go to the same schools or playgroups. The Queen should encourage reunions of the great grandchildren. It would be a positive step.

[QueenAlex]

They can still grow up as cousin friends. The family is spending time in the UK each year.

George gets along with his Phillips cousins and they don't go to the same schools or playgroups. The Queen should encourage reunions of the great grandchildren. It would be a positive step.

we don't know how that's going to work out.  They may just come over and spend a shrort time doing an engagement or 2.  They are not likely to take Archee all the way to the UK for a short working trip. 

[sandy]

They are said to want to spend months in the UK per year. That's how I interpreted it.

[TLLK]

I'm wondering when the family will get to see the baby again. Prince Louis is close in age, and if things had gone differently they may have grown up as cousin friends. In my experience there is nothing better than to have a few cousin friends.

Hopefully some time this year.

[QueenAlex]

They are said to want to spend months in the UK per year. That's how I interpreted it.

They said "divide their time".. I think.  And that may not work out the way they are thinking.  Canada has restricitons on how long non citizens or residents can stay.. In addition, its being said that they are not going to use Frogmore for a while.. and possibly it will revetrt to the queen to rent it out.. an indication that they are not going to live there...  They may find that hopping back and forth isn't that easy...and want to settle in one place..
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Hopefully some time this year.

I expect they will come during the summer, for a holiday but where will they stay?  I don't know if they will do the Balmoral holiday thing.  If they lose Frogmore.. where are they going to stay if they want to live here for a couple of months? 

[sandy]

Harry I think will still play polo, he does for charity. I expect he'll be back on the playing field. I don't think they will lose Frogmore. The QUeen never said she'd take it away from them.

[sara8150]

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Meghan Markle DIDN'T go inside Canada women's centre | Daily Mail Online

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Meghan Markle Wears Necklace Local Jeweler Canada Charity Visit | PEOPLE.com | PEOPLE.com

Doria Ragland Says Daughter Meghan Markle Will Always Be Okay | PEOPLE.com | PEOPLE.com

Royal Website Meghan Markle Prince Harry Live Palace, Omits Archie | PEOPLE.com | PEOPLE.com

Prince Harry and Meghan's UK home being closed down | UK news | The Guardian

Harry and Meghan may be heading to Canada but does Canada want them? | World news | The Guardian

Royal news: Bitter cash row erupts as Meghan Markle and Harry clash with palace over exit | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Prince Charles heartbreak: The reason Charles couldn't stop Prince Harry from leaving | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Prince Harry FEARS: The tragic reason Harry didn?t tell dad Prince Charles about plans | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Prince Harry to continue in charity role 'until the day he dies' amid ongoing discussions on his future - ITV News

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People Magazine article says

Burning Questions
Will They Keep Their Titles?
Harry and Meghan were named Their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Sussex by the Queen on their wedding day, and it?s unlikely she?ll strip them of their titles. When the Queen?s uncle Edward VIII abdicated, he was given the Duke of Windsor title and maintained his HRH status. ?They won?t have HRH taken away any more than the Duke of Windsor did,? predicts historian Robert Lacey.

Will They Still Receive Income From the Monarchy?
They will no longer get money from the taxpayer-funded Sovereign Grant, but Prince Charles will likely continue funding them through the Duchy of Cornwall, an estate that helps support the Prince of Wales?s family. Last year William and Harry together received about $6.4 million from their father.

What Happens to Frogmore Cottage?
Harry and Meghan moved into their Windsor home in April after $3 million in renovations. They stated that they plan to keep it as their residence in the U.K. with the Queen?s blessing ?so that their family will always have a place to call home in the United Kingdom.?

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Not since Princess Margaret

THE TROUBLE with Being THE SPARE
The struggle is real for younger siblings of the future monarch
More than a half century before Harry?s exit, his great-aunt Princess Margaret struggled with her place in the shadow of her older sister Elizabeth. ?The younger-sibling syndrome is an enduring problem,? says Robert Lacey, author of the books Majesty and Monarch. ?The system has not found a way of giving them the recognition that they need.? And as the older sibling has children, the problem only gets worse. ?Until Elizabeth produced heirs, Margaret was a possible future Queen,? adds Lacey. ?It is a family situation of conflict that goes back over generations.?

INSIDE the SANDRINGHAM SUMMIT
Queen Elizabeth ordered Prince Harry, Prince William and Prince Charles to meet at her country home on Jan. 13 to ?talk things through,? according to palace sources. The meeting marked the first time they had all been together since Remembrance Day weekend in November. After 90 minutes of discussions, Harry, William and Charles were spotted leaving Sandringham in separate cars. ?It can only be a good thing that they met to talk,? says a friend. ?For someone who is sixth in line, it is worth taking an innovative approach. Everyone wants it to work. There is no point in forcing people to do things and having them unhappy.?

[QueenAlex]

Harry I think will still play polo, he does for charity. I expect he'll be back on the playing field. I don't think they will lose Frogmore. The QUeen never said she'd take it away from them.

She hasn't said anything yet so taht's no indication of what will happen.  It seems that the staff at Frogmore are being let go or transferred, so they may not be expected to stay there soon.  And I don't think that it would be a good idea for the house to be empty of its occupants for months at a time...
Harry will have to work if he wants to make the srot of independent income that he and Meghan want.  He may find that trying to fit in engagements for charities in the UK isn't that easy, that lving on 2 continents isn't that easy.. and that Meghan may want to settle in one place now that they have a child...
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Likewise, I've recently read from those who had concerns about Meghan  Markle marrying Prince Harry that they were "shouted down" if they voiced anything that was deemed "unfavorable." :shrug:

Do you mean people who felt that Meghan didn't understand British life or the RF very well?  Or that the couple had married on the basis of a long distance courtship which doesn't always give people a very good idea what "normal life" together wil be like....
I think that Meghan was happiest with Harry visitng her in Canada and now she's half hoping to settle there and just visit the UK ? but I think it may not work out so well for Harry to be living there.  Visiting is one thing....

[sandy]

Harry won't give up Polo. IMO that is a given. And I think  he will continue to play in US.

I think Frogmore will have security detail and random people can't just decide to move in.

Diana was born in the UK her family knew the royals but it was totally different when she started living with the family as a family member.

[Curryong]

This  Guardian  article has analysis that proves the negativity of the British Press towards Meghan in the months after her wedding. There's also figures showing that negativity towards Kate by the Press in the same period was very different.

Meghan gets twice as many negative headlines as positive, analysis finds | Global | The Guardian


The Duchess of Sussex gets more than twice as many negative headlines as positive ones, according to Guardian analysis of articles published between May 2018 and mid January 2019.

The analysis ? which appears to support Meghan?s argument that she has faced highly critical treatment in the British press ? found that of the 843 articles in 14 print newspapers since mid-May 2018, 43% were negative. Just 20% of the articles were positive, with the remaining 36% remaining neutral.

Q&A
Meghan methodology
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Findings hinted that claims she receives significantly more critical treatment than the Duchess of Cambridge were correct. An equivalent search for headlines in which the Duchess of Cambridge was mentioned resulted in a fraction of the results but found that of just 144 headlines over the same time period, 45% of those about Kate were positive in tone, 47% neutral and just 8% negative.

[QueenAlex]

Harry won't give up Polo. IMO that is a given. And I think  he will continue to play in US.

I think Frogmore will have security detail and random people can't just decide to move in.

Diana was born in the UK her family knew the royals but it was totally different when she started living with the family as a family member.

he wont give up Polo??  What has that got to do with anything?  Polo is a sport fror very rich people.. If he wants to play it fine but I can't see what it has to do with his role as a prince.
If the Sussexes are  not going to live in Frogmore full time, there will probably be pressure to give them a smaller place nd to rent Frogmore out and get a commericla rent for it...
Im not sure what your point is about Diaana?.

[Princess Cassandra]

This  Guardian  article has analysis that proves the negativity of the British Press towards Meghan in the months after her wedding. There's also figures showing that negativity towards Kate by the Press in the same period was very different.

Meghan gets twice as many negative headlines as positive, analysis finds | Global | The Guardian


The Duchess of Sussex gets more than twice as many negative headlines as positive ones, according to Guardian analysis of articles published between May 2018 and mid January 2019.

The analysis ? which appears to support Meghan?s argument that she has faced highly critical treatment in the British press ? found that of the 843 articles in 14 print newspapers since mid-May 2018, 43% were negative. Just 20% of the articles were positive, with the remaining 36% remaining neutral.

Q&A
Meghan methodology
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Findings hinted that claims she receives significantly more critical treatment than the Duchess of Cambridge were correct. An equivalent search for headlines in which the Duchess of Cambridge was mentioned resulted in a fraction of the results but found that of just 144 headlines over the same time period, 45% of those about Kate were positive in tone, 47% neutral and just 8% negative.

There's little doubt about the significant negativity, though comparing to Catherine only increases polarization, which is already heavy on this thread, IMHO. The big question is why, and it has a very complex answer.