Re: King George VI and Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother of the United Kingdom

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LouisFerdinand

#26
August 03, 2017, 12:47:14 AM
Queen Mother Elizabeth had her 80th birthday ceremony at St. Paul's Cathedral in 1980.   
Queen Mother's 80th Birthday Ceremony At St Paul's Cathedral - No Sound - 1980 - YouTube

LouisFerdinand

#27
December 08, 2017, 10:53:51 PM
The title of the future Duchess of York caused some uncertainty. The Press Association reported that this was a matter for the King's decision. The Press Association indicated that the recent times supplied no precedent. The problem was that most royal wives had already been princesses by birth when they married. Would Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon be a princess after her wedding? The Home Office suggested that she definitely would.

royalanthropologist

#29
January 09, 2018, 11:22:18 PM
Now there is a woman that knew how to behave like a queen. If your daughter is QEII, overdrafts do not matter. All her debts were paid off by her family.
"In the past, people were born royal. Nowadays, royalty comes from what you do"...Gianni Versace

LouisFerdinand

#30
April 04, 2018, 07:03:32 PM
1946 Maundy Service Maundy Money Service (1946) - YouTube     
This is a nice service showing a happy King George VI and Queen Consort Elizabeth. I like how the little girls hold their bouquets near Queen Elizabeth.

LouisFerdinand

#31
April 20, 2018, 11:21:33 PM
Queen Elizabeth opened the King George VI memorial center in Southern Rhodesia in 1957.   
Queen Mother In Bulawayo (1957) - YouTube

LouisFerdinand

#33
September 14, 2018, 12:43:16 AM
In 1996 The Queen Mother created The Queen Elizabeth Castle of Mey Trust so that Mey Castle could continue in perpetuity for the benefit of the people of Caithness.

LouisFerdinand

#35
January 19, 2019, 10:28:11 PM
Queen Elizabeth opened Queen Elizabeth Hospital in 1948.   
Queen Mother Opens Queen Elizabeth Hospital - YouTube

LouisFerdinand

#36
February 08, 2019, 09:07:44 PM
In February 1928, Albert and Elizabeth, the Duke and Duchess of York, attended the Salvation Army Composers' Festival at the Congress Hall, Linscott Road in Clapton.

LouisFerdinand

#38
August 31, 2019, 12:29:44 AM
In 1939, after their visit to Washington, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth headed for New York, where the Governor, Herbert Lehman, and the Mayor, Fiorella La Guardia accompanied them as they were treated to a ticker tape parade.     

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LouisFerdinand

#39
November 09, 2019, 12:35:14 AM
During the Second World War, Queen Elizabeth refused to flee England to seek safety for herself and her children. She declared, "I could not possibly leave the King, and the King will never go."

LouisFerdinand

#40
November 29, 2019, 10:04:08 PM
In July 1932 Albert and Elizabeth, the Duke and Duchess of York, attended the Royal Show in South Hampton. Elizabeth was introduced to members of the council. The Royal couple also opened a new civic center.

LouisFerdinand

#41
April 10, 2020, 06:24:30 PM
Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was the daughter of the Earl and Countess of Strathmore. Would you say that her background of high position and privilege was good training for her role of Queen Consort?

Curryong

#42
April 10, 2020, 09:30:21 PM
I don't know about 'high position and privilege'. Makes Elizabeth sound as if she and her family lived a semi-Royal life. In fact the Strathmores lived a very simple life for aristocrats (very warm, loving, informal and jokey, one of the reasons why the Duke of York loved it) and all in all aristocratic families like theirs were often in financial difficulties after WW1.

It's true that after one of Elizabeth's brothers was killed and another a POW for years the Countess's mental health was somewhat fragile and so Elizabeth as the only daughter at home took over much of the arranging of any house parties, dances, parties, etc., but learning about that was very much part of girls' training for marriage in the upper classes in those days, anyway.

The Yorks lived a pretty normal life for one of their class and time after marriage, with less staff than some. Elizabeth once remembered that their footman had to be sent to the house of a neighbouring Duke in order to be trained in all the details of life as a servant in a grand household.

She certainly had more experience as a hostess and in the arts of social conversation etc than say Diana did but that was due to the period and time in which she had been born. That way of life was practically dead except in a few households by the 1970s.

TLLK

#43
April 10, 2020, 09:48:05 PM
 Good points @Curryong as WWI and WWII certainly had a large impact on lives and households of the aristocracy and the people that were typically employed by the estates. We know that the UK like many generations suffered terrible losses among the young men of military conscription age.  As modern household appliances and technology greatly reduced the need for large numbers of staff and more women chose to find employment in factories, offices and in fields that had been traditionally occupied by men along with the financial difficulties faced by so many members of the aristocracy, few households were living lives like their Victorian and Edwardian ancestors.

The Strathmores and Spencers like so many of their aristocratic peers lived different lives than the Windsors, so I'm not sure if Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyons and Lady Diana Spencer were prepared for the lives of future Queen Consorts because of their backgrounds of "high position and privilege."

From my impression, it was the humor, warmth and graciousness that both women possessed that inspired many in the UK to consider them their favorite members of the BRF during their lifetimes. :happy:

QueenAlex

#44
April 10, 2020, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: TLLK on April 10, 2020, 09:48:05 PM
Good points @Curryong as WWI and WWII certainly had a large impact on lives and households of the aristocracy and the people that were typically employed by the estates. We know that the UK like many generations suffered terrible losses among the young men of military conscription age.  As modern household appliances and technology greatly reduced the need for large numbers of staff and more women chose to find employment in factories, offices and in fields that had been traditionally occupied by men along with the financial difficulties faced by so many members of the aristocracy, few households were living lives like their Victorian and Edwardian ancestors.

The Strathmores and Spencers like so many of their aristocratic peers lived different lives than the Windsors, so I'm not sure if Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyons and Lady Diana Spencer were prepared for the lives of future Queen Consorts because of their backgrounds of "high position and privilege."

From my impression, it was the humor, warmth and graciousness that both women possessed that inspired many in the UK to consider them their favorite members of the BRF during their lifetimes. :happy:

however they were part of the upper class that socialised with the RF, the Spencers had been courtiers, so they had an in to the RF....

Curryong

#45
April 10, 2020, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: QueenAlex on April 10, 2020, 10:23:18 PM
however they were part of the upper class that socialised with the RF, the Spencers had been courtiers, so they had an in to the RF....

Yes, the fact that both grandmothers were/had been ladies in waiting to the QM was considered part of why Diana was considered eminently suitable.

However, as we've discussed, by the time Diana was in her late teens Johnnie her father had been a recluse following the breakdown of his first marriage then married Raine, considered a bolter, and there was not much interaction at all between the family and the RF, with the exception of Sarah's brief romance with Charles and Ruth Fermoy's deep friendship with the QM. The latter would have been great had Ruth been very close to her granddaughter, but she wasn't.

And Diana hadn't been to finishing school or taken note of how Raine managed social events at Althorp. She wasn't alone in that in her generation of aristo daughters though.

LouisFerdinand

#46
June 01, 2020, 06:56:25 AM
King George VI with the Royal Family at the Royal Lodge at Windsor Castle July 8, 1946   
George VI with the Royal Family, at the Royal Lodge at Windsor Castle. News Photo - Getty Images

QueenAlex

#47
June 15, 2020, 03:24:02 PM
Quote from: TLLK on April 10, 2020, 09:48:05 PM
Good points @Curryong as WWI and WWII certainly had a large impact on lives and households of the aristocracy and the people that were typically employed by the estates. We know that the UK like many generations suffered terrible losses among the young men of military conscription age.  As modern household appliances and technology greatly reduced the need for large numbers of staff and more women chose to find employment in factories, offices and in fields that had been traditionally occupied by men along with the financial difficulties faced by so many members of the aristocracy, few households were living lives like their Victorian and Edwardian ancestors.

The Strathmores and Spencers like so many of their aristocratic peers lived different lives than the Windsors, so I'm not sure if Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyons and Lady Diana Spencer were prepared for the lives of future Queen Consorts because of their backgrounds of "high position and privilege."

From my impression, it was the humor, warmth and graciousness that both women possessed that inspired many in the UK to consider them their favorite members of the BRF during their lifetimes. :happy:

I think that the QM did learn about managing a house and social life as most upper class daughters did in the 20s...  Diana didn't. 

LouisFerdinand

#48
July 26, 2020, 12:38:17 AM
Elizabeth, when she was Duchess of York, wrote her mother-in-law Queen Mary letters about how much she loved her new home, White Lodge. However, she bemoaned to her mother Cecilia how hideous she found it.

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