Royal Insight Forum

A thread to discuss the various non-reigning royal families of Italy: Savoy, Aosta and Two Scilies' news, current events and general discussion.


A Prince serving pasta from a food truck is not common. It goes to show that even royals can do things regular people do.

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The Italian Prince Emanuele Filiberto (44) is in Los Angeles started a new enterprise: a food truck. Not one that would be expected of the grandson of the last Italian King Umberto II, who in 1946 following a referendum had to take farewell of the throne. If Italy had remained a Kingdom, then was now Crown Prince Emanuele Filiberto.

However, only a title's life, and so has Emanuele Filiberto Italy since 2002, when the ban on the stay of the male members of the Royal family, raised in various high-profile adventures often paid up. He first tried to gain influence by joining elections as candidates, but the Italians clearly had no appetite for a political role for the Prince of Venice.

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www.vorsten.nl/2016/08/03/kroonprins-serveert-vanuit-foodtruck/ - Translator (http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=nl&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vorsten.nl%2F2016%2F08%2F03%2Fkroonprins-serveert-vanuit-foodtruck%2F)

QuoteMeet the Italian Prince living in California selling Italian food from his food truck business

Call it a case of role reversal, but with the opening of a new food truck operating out of Los Angeles, you can eat like a royal and be served by one, too.'

Prince Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia of Piedmont and Venice, the grandson of King Umberto II, the last King of Italy, operates the Prince of Venice (POV) food truck.

"I always want to contribute in the promotion of Italy," the Prince said in an interview with CBS Los Angeles.

Read more:
Meet the Italian Prince living in California selling Italian food from his food truck business – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/other/italian-prince-living-in-california-sells-italian-food-from-his-food-truck-business-79263)

A Monte Carlo princess could be fined millions of pounds for refusing to reveal the location of her film star mothers fortune, including a 50m painting, a court heard today.

Princess Camilla Crociani de Bourbon des Deux Siciles appeared at the Royal Court on the Channel Island of Jersey for the latest hearing in a bitter ten-year dispute.

The family feud began when Italian film star Edoarda Crociani set up a trust fund for her two daughters Cristiana and Camilla.

Italian princess at war with sister over ?100m inheritance from film star mother | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8953461/Italian-princess-war-sister-100m-inheritance-film-star-mother.html)

Princess Camilla of Bourbon celebrates her 50th birthday today (https://www.newmyroyals.com/2021/04/princess-camilla-of-bourbon-celebrates.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&m=1)

She looks great for her age! Her husband seems to adore her.  :wub:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/09/world/europe/italy-house-of-savoy-royalty.html?smid=tw-share

In a formal 2019 decree, the Duke of Savoy, Prince of Naples and by the grace of God direct heir to Head of the Royal House of Savoy, amended a medieval law that for centuries had restricted succession in his royal line to male heirs.

He bumped our beloved granddaughter Vittoria Cristina Chiara Adelaide Maria up the royal food chain, making her the first woman in 1,000 years to be invested with the authority to eventually lead the family and stake a claim to the defunct monarchy.

?It was the best gift he could give me,? Vittoria, now 17 and a burgeoning Instagram influencer, said from her Paris home.

Totally illegitimate,? said Prince Aimone di Savoia Aosta, a cousin and rival claimant, who works as an executive for the Pirelli tire company in Moscow.

And so began the latest chapter in an ongoing dynastic dispute between the pretenders to Italy's pretend throne. There are bitter feelings, thrown punches, warring noble committees, dukedom politics and as of last month, Vittoria's ascending social media status.

What there is not is an actual crown to fight over.

Italy is a republic, having abolished the monarchy 75 years ago for its disastrous support of Mussolini, and Italians have approximately zero interest in a royal restoration.

Yeah.....not going to happen.   I really don't think Italians want or care to have a monarch.  She and her family can declare themselves rulers all they like but other than their apartment, they aren't going to be ruling much.  She may want to have a backup plan.

Would Princess Vittoria's father's regnal name be Emmanuel Philibert I or Emmanuel Philibert II?

Radical royal consort who plotted against Mussolini and wanted to shoot Hitler: Extraordinary story of Italys last Queen who only reigned for 35 days will be brought to life by her grandson in a Crown-like series

Italy's last Queen Marie-Jos? who plotted against Mussolini and wanted to shoot Hitler (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9566745/amp/Italys-Queen-Marie-Jos-plotted-against-Mussolini-wanted-shoot-Hitler.html?__twitter_impression=true)

Still newer to this forum so I hope this is the right section.

Prince Amedeo, Duke of Aosta died at the age of 77. He is one of the two rival claimants to the Italian throne.

Morto il principe Amedeo di Savoia, duca d'Aosta: aveva 77 anni, era stato da poco operato (https://www.ilmessaggero.it/persone/morto_principe_savoia_amedeo_ultima_ora_1_giugno_2021-5995995.html?fbclid=IwAR05PREGxwjY0LgUHN6FWyp5-A2iLBKs7OwZXRbzv36GRmf0BbZrcBFHLiM)

QuoteThe Duke of Aosta, Prince Amedeo, one of two rival claimants to the headship of the former royal house of Italy, died at the San Donato Hospital in Arezzo this morning, aged 77. The Duke had been admitted for kidney surgery five days ago and was waiting to be released from hospital when he died from cardiac arrest.

The Duke was married twice. His first wife was Princess Claude of Orleans who he divorced in 1982 (annulment in 1987) who is the paternal aunt of the current Count of Paris. He married his second wife Silvia in 1987 who is the daughter of Vincenzo Patern? di Spedalotto, 6th Marchese di Reggiovanni. He was married to Silvia at the time of his death.


His is survived by 4 children (3 by Claude and a natural daughter born from an affair in 2006) and 11 grandchildren.


He is succeeded to his claim (rival) to the throne by his second child and only son Prince Aimone, Duke of Apulia. Aimone is married to Princess Olga of Greece (daughter of Prince Michael of Greece, a first cousin of Prince Philip).The couple have three children, 2 sons and a daughter. The new heir to the title is 12 year old Prince Umberto.

Perfect spot.  Thanks.  And don't worry - if a post is more appropriate elsewhere it isn't hard to move. 

Funeral of the Duke of Aosta ? The Royal Watcher (https://royalwatcherblog.com/2021/06/04/funeral-of-the-duke-of-aosta/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

It is sad seeing the royal funerals during covid and how many people are sadly missing.

Her Majesty Margareta and Prince Radu planted a tree in his honor.  :flower3:

Rug?ciune pentru Ducele de Aosta la S?v?r?in | Familia Regal? a Rom?niei / Royal Family of Romania (https://www.romaniaregala.ro/jurnal/rugaciune-pentru-ducele-de-aosta-la-savarsin/)


Margareta's grandmother Queen Mother Helen, and Amedeo's mother Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark, were sisters.

King Humbert I and Queen Margherita visited Caprera in 1899.   
King Umberto I and Queen Margherita visiting the tomb of Garibaldi in Caprera April 23, 1899, Stock Photo, Picture And Rights Managed Image. Pic. (http://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/details-photo/king-umberto-i-and-queen-margherita/DAE-11164442)

King Vittorio Emanuele III of Italy would bring Queen Elena roses from the garden he collected himself.

The royals, who were exiled from Italy after the Second World War until 2002, want their collection of tiaras, necklaces, brooches and earrings returned to them from a vault in the Bank of Italy in Rome.

The legal auction is being brought after the children of King Umberto II failed to agree a deal with the bank for the jewels - said to be worth ?250million - to be returned.

Also included in the collection is more than 6,000 diamonds and 2,000 pearls mounted on brooches.

More: Children of Umberto II, last King of Italy, SUE Italian state in fight to reclaim ?250m crown jewels | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10494825/Now-Italys-former-royals-SUE-Italian-state-fight-reclaim-250million-crown-jewels.html)

Here's an article with a few photos which are difficult to find as the vault can only be opened in the presence of the President of the Republic of Italy and the Head of the Bank of Italy.

2 June: the treasures of the Italian crown - Salvadori Diamond Atelier (https://www.salvadoridiamondatelier.com/en/2017/05/31/2-june-the-treasures-of-the-italian-crown/)

QuoteThis small treasure chest, consisting of a three-tiered black leather case with blue velvet lining, is today valued at over 1.5 billion euros, with more than 1200 carats of diamonds, precious stones and pearls. The contents are known to only a few because the chest has never been opened. Photographs were taken and it was then closed with twelve seals.
The chest can only be opened in the presence of the President of the Republic and the Governor of the Bank of Italy.

The jewels consist of the Ferrea Crown (the Iron Crown of Lombardy), the Choker of the Supreme Order of the Most Holy Annunciation and a couple of bracelets with rectangular links, made in 1868 with diamonds set in gold and silver.

I?m sure the contents of the chest are absolutely breathtaking. However, I?m not convinced that keeping them shut away in a chest where only a small group of people (at best)can see them is the best way of preserving these treasures for the future. In an age in which priceless works of art are protected digitally and electronically in famous museums surely the Italian govt could organise a safe haven for them in Rome so at least the population there (and tourists) would be able to come and view them.

@Curryong-I agree. Hopefully this might be a reasonable compromise for the Savoys and the Republic of Italy.

Message from Emanuele Filiberto about the invasion of Ukraine:

Login ? Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cag4qBmOHpr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

 The House of Savoy recently held a Mass to honor the 40th anniversary of the death of King Umberto. The Mass was held at Abbaye d'Hautecombe in France. From viewing the photos, it appears that the Crown Prince  Vittorio Emanuel is having mobility issues.

Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia on Instagram: "Bellissima cerimonia solenne per i 40 anni dalla morte di mio nonno Re Umberto." (https://www.instagram.com/p/CqAQTucIheH/)

Italian Prince hints Charles should abdicate - after renouncing his claim to the throne for daughter | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12168989/Italian-Prince-hints-Charles-abdicate-renouncing-claim-throne-daughter.html)

Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on June 09, 2023, 04:06:15 PM
Italian Prince hints Charles should abdicate - after renouncing his claim to the throne for daughter | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12168989/Italian-Prince-hints-Charles-abdicate-renouncing-claim-throne-daughter.html)

It?s not quite clear what the Prince of Venice (which I believe is one of Prince Emmanuel?s titles) is actually abdicating from, or what he wishes his influencer daughter to do in her role. There are lots of opinions about whether very elderly monarchs should retire (and certainly his opinion is shared by for example Beatrix of the Netherlands, JC of Spain and Albert of Belgium who did fit the deed to the word.)

However, I?d suggest that this Prince?s good intentions would be a bit more relevant if he had been the heir to an actual viable constitutional monarchy instead of one defunct since just after WW2, before speaking out on his intentions. Instead of spending his time doing whatever in Monaco, that is. Perhaps Albert could give him a few tips.

Prince Aimone and Princess Olga of Savoy Astoa were at the Sustainable Fashion awards.

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1698927421/photo/cnmi-sustainable-fashion-awards-2023-milan-fashion-week-womenswear-spring-summer-2024.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=fY0lPtJ6IzU-zqz1iQTXIGCa9IG7v2MlIjAUVSEM_cw=

Prince Jaime of Bourbon-Sicily, heir to the crown of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, announces the birth of his daughter, Princess Francesca Sofia, born October 13 in London. -

https://x.com/Monarchies2000/status/1716538935646544312?s=20

Vittorio Emanuele of Savoy has died: the son of the last king of Italy was 86 years old -

Vittorio Emanuele of Savoy has died: the son of the last king of Italy was 86 years old (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.agenzianova.com/en/news/and-when-Vittorio-Emanuele-of-Savoy-died-he-was-86-years-old/amp/)

Crown Prince Vittorio Emmanuele was one of the least  popular of the non-reigning heads of royal families.  He and his cousin the late Duke of Aosta got into a fist fight at the wedding reception for Felipe and Letizia.  Relatives had to physically separate the pair. Reportedly Juan  Carlos was heard telling them "Never again " would they be invited to a royal event.

Yes I remember that. He was certainly a hothead, and of course VE?s claims to be head of the royal house were hotly disputed by the Duke of Acosta. However a fist fight at a wedding was among the least of his misdemeanours which includes anti-Semitic remarks about Italy?s racial laws in the late 1930s, though he did belatedly apologise.

Vittorio Emmanuel must be quite unique in royal circles for having been charged and gone to trial in two different countries, and imo he was lucky to get off the murder charges, considering what happened.

From wiki
?On several occasions, he was the centre of controversy in Italy and abroad due to a series of incidents, including remarks that were seen by some as antisemitic. He was revealed to be a member of Propaganda Due (P2), the state within a state responsible for high-level corruption and political manipulation.[4] In France he was tried on a murder charge, of which he was cleared of unlawful killing but convicted of a firearms offence. On 16 June 2006, following an investigation started by John Woodcock of the Public Prosecutor's Office in Potenza, Italy, Vittorio Emanuele was arrested on charges of criminal association, racketeering, conspiracy, corruption, and exploitation of prostitution.[5] A trial on these charges began in Potenza, Italy, on 21 December 2009. Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia was acquitted of all charges in 2007 and 2010.[6][7]

His heir Prince Emanuele Filberto has stated that he will abdicate his role as Head of the Savoy house in favor of his eldest daughter when she is ready.  I expect  that this will not  be soon though.

If Emanuele Filiberto was the King of Italy, would his regnal name be Emanuele Filiberto I?

Vittorio Emanuele Of Savoy Funeral:

Bilder und Fotos - Getty Images (https://www.gettyimages.de/editorial-images/entertainment/event/vittorio-emanuele-of-savoy-funeral/776103957?editorialproducts=all)

A wedding of Spanish descendants of Bourbon - Two Sicilles

Photo by photo: all the guests at the wedding of José Luis Martínez-Almeida and Teresa Urquijo -

https://www.hola.com/actualidad/galeria/20240406252025/invitados-boda-jose-luis-martines-almeida-teresa-urquijo/1/

Teresa Urquijo, 28, granddaughter of Princess Teresa of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, marries the Mayor of Madrid, 48, in a glittering ceremony with royal attendees -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13287171/Teresa-Urquijo-married-madrid-Jos-Luis-Mart-nez-Almeida.html

Princesses Maria Carolina, 20, and Maria Chiara of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, 19, look elegant in casual attire as they attend a tennis tournament in Monte Carlo

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13304499/Princesses-Maria-Carolina-20-Maria-Chiara-Bourbon-Two-Sicilies-19-look-elegant-casual-attire-attend-tennis-tournament-Monte-Carlo.html

Princesses Maria Carolina, 20, and Maria Chiara of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, 19, are very pretty.

Quote from: Blue Clover on April 15, 2024, 12:17:54 AMPrincesses Maria Carolina, 20, and Maria Chiara of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, 19, are very pretty.

Chiara was busy batting off rumours about herself and CP Christian of Denmark last year. They were snapped together at Monaco last summer and apparently saw each other on a few occasions since. She did chat about him on her IG in passing occasionally at that time but they are just good friends.

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Quote from: Curryong on April 15, 2024, 10:07:36 AMChiara was busy batting off rumours about herself and CP Christian of Denmark last year. They were snapped together at Monaco last summer and have seen each other occasionally since. She did chat about him on her IG in passing occasionally at that time but they are just good friends.

I remember that! I get Mrs. Bennett vibes from the mother. If they want a Prince, I hope they find one and live happily ever after.

The Basilica of St. Mary Cross in Jerusalem in Rome hosted the investiture ceremony and pontifical Mass on April 23rd on the occasion of the holiday of St. Mary George. The Grand Prior, H.E.R. Cardinal Marcello Semeraro presided over the solemn liturgy in the presence of H.A.R. Prince Charles of Bourbon of the Two Sicilies, Head of the Royal House and Grand Master, accompanied by H.A. R. Princess Camilla and daughters, LL. AA. RR. Princesses Maria Carolina and Maria Clear. Present, among others, also S.A.E. Fra' John T. Dunlap, Grand Master of the Sovereign Order of Malta and all Grand Officers of the Constantinian Order, as well as civilian and military authorities.

Hundreds of Knights and Ladies flocked not only from all over Italy, but from all over the world for the festive comeback.

Some of the most important personalities who have received the investiture:

- H.E. Frà Alessandro de Franciscis Grand Hospitalier of the Military Sovereign Order of Malta (Photo 4)
- H.E. Fra' Emmanuel Rousseau Grand Commander of the Military Sovereign Order of Malta (Photo 5)
- H.E. the Borghese Prince, Don Scipione Prince of Sulmona (Photo 6)
- Don Moroello Diaz Pallavicini of the Victory of the Dukes of Victory (Photo 7)

It was followed by a vin d'honneur in the Basilica monastery, followed by an evening lunch at Palazzo Ferrajoli.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6OdX_9tCcr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link