Andrew and new Epstein Trial

[sandy]

Some years ago he dated this younger woman and there was talk of his wanting to remarry. I remember this was discussed on this very board and there was talk of his having a son by a possible remarriage (hypothetical) to inherit the Duke of York title.

[amabel]

Some years ago he dated this younger woman and there was talk of his wanting to remarry. I remember this was discussed on this very board and there was talk of his having a son by a possible remarriage (hypothetical) to inherit the Duke of York title.

I've heard of his having had a few girlfriends - but my impression was that "Fergie vetted his gilrlfriends and It was unlikely that he would remarry.!
and Im sure he did not want to.  Its pretty clear that Andrew found divorce gave him back his bachelor freedom and he could have a good time without restrictions.. and the press by nad large left him alone in the post Fergie years.

[sandy]

I don't know if Fergie vetted all of them. SHe was looking for a possible remarriage  and was serious about someone but it went nowhere.

[amabel]

I don't know if Fergie vetted all of them. SHe was looking for a possible remarriage  and was serious about someone but it went nowhere.

I daresay she did scare off a few women.. I doubt if anyone would want to marry a man, even a prince, who had his ex still living in his house..
But I think that while Andy did not initialy want to lose Fergie when he made up his mind to get a divorce, he realised that he was in a good positon.  He was not popular with the meida so they left him alone.. and he was single.. so he was free to fool around as much as he liked, and was not followed by the press.. when he used Epstein to find girls for him.

[Blue Clover]

The more I hear about Prince Andrew, the more I see why Fergie was his only wife. It is odd that no one wanted to seriously date or marry him after Fergie.

[Curryong]

I remembered the Press carrying on about Andrew maybe marrying again after his divorce and found this VF article. Of the women spoken about in the media in those years the most serious was undoubtedly Amanda Staveley. There were a few articles that spoke of an immediate engagement. He had invited her to Balmoral, she'd been seen at Sandringham, met the Queen, etc etc. Then, suddenly it was all off. Don't know what happened.

However, I don't think it would have been Fergie's interference. There have been periods over the years when Andrew has been irritated by his ex wife, and I remember years ago reading an article that quoted an insider saying that when Andrew brings a girlfriend home (presumably an adult one) Sarah knows she is to make herself scarce.

This is from a VF article. Forgive me for not posting the link. It was brought up to date and went on and on for paragraphs about his scandals past and present. However...

Marrying Prince Andrew (Sue Arnold, June 1986)

Later, Andrew moved into Royal Lodge, the late Queen Mother?s residence in Windsor Great Park, where he continued to live with his former wife and their daughters, Princess Beatrice, 22, and Princess Eugenie, 21. However, this has not put a crimp into Andrew?s sybaritic style. He?s been rumored to be romantically linked to more than a dozen women, including the American actress Angie Everhart and Amanda Staveley, a successful private-equity specialist to whom he proposed marriage.

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Amanda Staveley - Wikipedia.

How surprising that Andrew was interested in a financial high flyer with plenty of money and Middle Eastern business interests, lol!
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Women linked to Andrew over the years.

Ladies who have been romantically linked with Prince Andrew: in pictures - Telegraph

[Blue Clover]

"sybaritic style":
sybaritic [ˌsibəˈridik] ADJECTIVE
fond of sensuous luxury or pleasure; self-indulgent.
"their opulent and sybaritic lifestyle"

synonyms:
luxurious - extravagant - pampered - lavish - self-indulgent - pleasure-seeking - sensual - voluptuous - hedonistic - epicurean - lotus-eating - libertine - debauched

I feel like someone who came late to the party! @Curryong Thank you for posting the article, I learned many new things about Andrew since the Epstein trial. I had no idea he had this sybaritic style of dating!  :eyes:

[Curryong]

Yes, most of those synonyms describe Andrew perfectly!

[amabel]

I still don't think that Andrew would have remarried.. I think a bachelor life (with as we now know) a man like Epstein to provide girls).. suited him fine.. even if he sometimes had a more in depth relationship.  And I don't think he would ever have completely detached from Fergie.. so while some women might enjoy some kind of "relationship" with Andrrew I think they would baulk at actual marriage to someone whose ex wife was still likely to be around

[sandy]

I think it would have been difficult for Fergie to make any inroads if ANdrew remarried and started a "second family" with the hypothetical second wife.

[amabel]

I think it would have been difficult for Fergie to make any inroads if ANdrew remarried and started a "second family" with the hypothetical second wife.

Very hypothetical IMO.  Andrew may have had a few girlfirends.. that maybe he did consider remarriage with ..but I dotn think he really wanted another formal commitment..  He had his children 
. He had Fergie around at times.. and he had his freedom.  WHy tie himself up in marriage again?  He had plenty of "real girlfriends" if he wanted them and plenty of girls who were avaialabe for a purely sexual fling...
And if he had ever considered remarriage seriuosly, I don't think that any woman would really want him that badly that she would put up with his louche ways AND with Sarah hanging around

[Blue Clover]

@Curryong
@amabel
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[Princess Cassandra]

All these latest posts are interesting...but they don't paint a very pretty picture of the DofY. Sad.

[amabel]

All these latest posts are interesting...but they don't paint a very pretty picture of the DofY. Sad.

he was n ever a very attractive individual.  He has good qualities.. he was more loayal and still is to Fergie than she deserves and I tink he is a good father.  But he has that attitude to women that certain kinds of women are there for hm to have fun with and he does not seem to worry that they may be pressured into it by economic or other factors

[Princess Cassandra]

he was n ever a very attractive individual.  He has good qualities.. he was more loayal and still is to Fergie than she deserves and I tink he is a good father.  But he has that attitude to women that certain kinds of women are there for hm to have fun with and he does not seem to worry that they may be pressured into it by economic or other factors

At one time he was. When he entered the Royal Navy he was extremely handsome and there was no negativity (before he was called Randy Andy). He was seen in a positive light. And of course he was a hero in the Falkland's, but by then he had a reputation. 

[sandy]

He has his own shortcomings so his breakup with Fergie probably was due to issues for both of them.

[amabel]

At one time he was. When he entered the Royal Navy he was extremely handsome and there was no negativity (before he was called Randy Andy). He was seen in a positive light. And of course he was a hero in the Falkland's, but by then he had a reputation. 

He was always arrogant and full of himself.  and before long he had a reputation as bouncing from girl to girl..and then he married Fergie.  THat gave boht of them a lilte bit of popularity.. but it didn't last long..

[sara8150]

FBI 'probes Prince Andrew link to Jeffrey Epstein' and 'won't dismiss claims because he is a royal'  | Daily Mail Online

[Princess Cassandra]

Here we go.  I guess we all knew this was coming.

[sandy]

I wonder if Bea and Edo will have to be "low key" now and I wonder how this will impact wedding plans

[sara8150]

I wonder if Bea and Edo will have to be "low key" now and I wonder how this will impact wedding plans

We have wait and see till wedding will have big or small neither options it?s Beatrice decisions have wedding in London because of HM Queen still survival I?m mention on Beatrice?s engagement thread

[Princess Cassandra]

I wonder if Bea and Edo will have to be "low key" now and I wonder how this will impact wedding plans

I have been wondering the same thing, Sandy. I would guess that the wedding plans are going to go forward now in hopes that the Epstein mess won't be in full bore at the same time. Your thoughts?

[sara8150]

Prince Andrew refuses to answer questions as his trip to Perth is overshadowed by Epstein scandal | Daily Mail Online
Don?t say anything about that kept quiet and zipit 🤐🤫

[Princess Cassandra]

I guess he is judged now by a higher authority, which is far more important than any court of law. I just think it's sad that his accusers won't have their day in court. Regarding Ms. Roberts, I hope she has witnesses regarding being forced to have sex, because otherwise that must be a difficult thing to prove. 

[sara8150]

Prince Andrew must talk to the FBI about Jeffrey Epstein abuse, lawyer demands - Mirror Online

Prince Andrew should be questioned by the FBI under oath about his friendship with paedo Jeffrey Epstein, victim?s lawyer claims ? The Sun