Support & Popularity for the World's Monarchies (excluding UK)

Started by LouisFerdinand, June 13, 2016, 12:21:35 AM

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TLLK

I have to say that Phillipe and Mathilde have done an excellent job in preparing Elisabeth for her role and IMO Felipe and Letizia appear to be following their example for Leonor. I'll be curious to see what Leonor will be doing after she graduates from secondary school. Will she participate in some military training, go straight to university or take a gap year?

TLLK

Regarding W-A and Maxima's seemingly poor decisions during the pandemic, I wish that they'd followed the example of their southern neighbors in Belgium. The Belgians like all of their royal peers quickly transitioned to virtual meetings, but they stayed home and didn't ignore any of the COVID rules.

Blue Clover

Quote from: Curryong on April 26, 2022, 04:23:36 AM
Maxi especially had been extremely popular with the Dutch in the years since her marriage due to her exuberant enthusiasm while performing her duties. Then came Covid and it?s all gone a bit pear shaped due to W-A and Maxi wanting to take a break in the sun while the rest of the citizens of the Netherlands were stuck at home in lockdowns. It caused a bit of resentment at the time and in recent months I just get the feeling everywhere in the world that there is a resentful edginess about authority figures getting privileges the rest don?t have.

Perhaps the photos of their daughters smoking, dressed up attending school parties and posting photos online about it hasn?t helped. The behaviour, while typically teeenage stuff, perhaps contrasts a bit for more traditional types of citizens with the demeanour of other children of monarchs  like Elizabeth of Belgium and Elinor of Spain.

Curryong, I agree about the resentment that comes from seeing Royals enjoying luxuries and privileges when so many people are facing hardships such as job loss, food insecurity, and other problems. I believe that public support is won when the Royals roll up their sleeves and find ways to show support to the public who face incredible hardships, especially during the COVID pandemic. I agree with you about the photos of their children living privileged lives when so many children faced school lockdowns, depression, and other problems and how they were taken as insensitive. Royal children are given so much and they must understand that much is expected of them as a result. They must be seen as dutiful, sensitive to the needs of the public, and community service focused. What has worked is viewing Royals as compassionate and service-minded during times of global crisis, hardship, and struggle.

wannable

That's not a good image (for any public person), but more so to soft power royals. What happened with staying put and working (zoom calls and the like)?!

I say this because i.e. Boris Johnson broke covid19 laws, but then he is the PM, and both parties concur (majority) that he won't be punished for a 'cake' because there are more important matters in the what to do list of domestic/internationl issues. Literally 'cake' was used to describe to these politicians a 'minor' situation.

Athough a 'cake' situation would be massive for a soft power royal.

Blue Clover

Quote from: wannable on April 27, 2022, 03:39:23 PM
That's not a good image (for any public person), but more so to soft power royals. What happened with staying put and working (zoom calls and the like)?!

I say this because i.e. Boris Johnson broke covid19 laws, but then he is the PM, and both parties concur (majority) that he won't be punished for a 'cake' because there are more important matters in the what to do list of domestic/internationl issues. Literally 'cake' was used to describe to these politicians a 'minor' situation.

Athough a 'cake' situation would be massive for a soft power royal.

Wannable, I agree! Staying put and working, lots of supportive Zoom calls, sounds like the perfect way for Royals to handle a global crisis.

TLLK

Record high support for the monarchy in Norway as 84% of those polled want to retain the monarchy.

Record high support for the Norwegian monarchy ? Royal Central

QuoteLast week, Norway?s parliament voted on keeping the monarchy, causing much debate and some controversy. The proposal to establish a republic in Norway came from the country?s sitting Minister of Culture, who only a year ago took an oath of loyalty to the King. However, the proposal fell through with 134 votes in favour of the monarchy against 35 votes in favour of a republic.

As a result of the massive opposition to the vote, the newspaper ?Nettavisen? has conducted a major survey of the population. It shows that support for the Norwegian monarchy has been further strengthened in recent months. Of the 20,000 asked in the survey, 84% say they want to keep the monarchy. Only 16% answered that they are unsure or that they want a Norwegian republic.

Only once before has the support been as strong as it is now. When King Harald marked his Silver Jubilee, 84% of the population supported the monarchy.

LouisFerdinand

Is it true that if Portugal did become a monarchy, the citizens would not be able to vote?


Curryong

Quote from: LouisFerdinand on September 23, 2022, 11:56:33 PM
Is it true that if Portugal did become a monarchy, the citizens would not be able to vote?

Portugal is most unlikely to become a monarchy again. However if it was it would be a constitutional monarchy not an autocracy. Do citizens of Denmark, Spain, Japan, the UK, the Netherlands vote? Of course they do and it?s the same with all constitutional monarchies. In those countries the monarch virtually obeys the will of the government. Few of them have any real powers left of their own.

TLLK

The role of the reigning prince in Monaco which compared to other European monarchies is considerably more politically involved.

The monarch?s role in Monaco ? Royal Central

QuotePrince Albert II has been the Sovereign Prince of Monaco since his accession in 2005. Unlike some of the other monarchs in Europe, Prince Albert could exercise greater powers over the day-to-day politics of the principality.

The Constitution of Monaco vests executive, legislative and judicial power in its Sovereign Prince, though it is shared with others.

Curryong

Quote from: TLLK on November 04, 2022, 02:45:07 PM
The role of the reigning prince in Monaco which compared to other European monarchies is considerably more politically involved.

The monarch?s role in Monaco ? Royal Central

Yes, the reigning Princes are really chiefs of their own little fiefdoms. Rainier became politically involved at several points during his reign, including a power struggle with Onassis at one stage I seem to remember.

TLLK

Yes they do @Curryong. Lichtenstein is another micro state where the reigning prince and heir have a much larger political role than their other European peers.

TLLK

Taking a look at the role of the monarch in Spain. IMHO the former KJC had such an impact on bring about the necessary changes to his nation, but sadly hubris and greed saw the sad end of his reign and self-exile. Hoping that KFVI can restore the dignity and stability of the institution.

The monarch?s role in Spain ? Royal Central

QuoteSince King Felipe?s accession in 2014, the monarchy has made a big effort to bring itself back to its constitutional mandate and to strictly adhere to the role that the sovereign is given by the foundational chart of modern Spain.

The parts of the constitution that concern the Crown can be easily found on Casa Real?s website for full transparency, another sign of the ?renewed monarchy for new times? that the King pledged in his accession speech in front of Parliament.

TLLK

Taking a look at the role of the monarch in Jordan.


The monarch?s role in Jordan ? Royal Central

QuoteJordan is a constitutional monarchy. However, in Jordan, the King is not ceremonial and wields more power than many other constitutional monarchs across the globe. King Abdullah II can suspend, dissolve or shorten sessions of Parliament; he also appoints the Prime Minister.

The King approves or vetoes all laws in the country; however, his veto can be overridden with a two-thirds vote in both houses of Parliament. He also ratifies all treaties. As Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces, King Abdullah II has the power to declare war.

TLLK

Europe?s last ?absolute? monarchy: the sovereign?s powers in Liechtenstein ? Royal Central

QuoteLiechtenstein is one of the last remaining ?absolute? monarchies in the world, a fact that becomes even more evident as it stands in stark contrast with the general tendency of monarchies to move towards a parliamentarian prevalence. 

Instead, this tiny principality, nestled between Switzerland and Austria, has grated its Sovereign Prince increasing powers as late as 2003, with another referendum being called in 2012 that vehemently rejected the possibility of cutting back or limiting the powers of the Sovereign Prince. 

As a result, the Prince of Liechtenstein has political powers that modern-day monarchs can only have read about in their ancestors? biographies. Prince Hans-Adam, the current ruler of Liechtenstein, can take political decisions and weigh in on current events in the country. 

In fact, he has done so for both the aforementioned referenda, both times threatening to leave the country if the people did not vote his way. 

TLLK

The role of the Grand Duke in Luxembourg is explained in this post.

The monarch?s role in Luxembourg ? Royal Central

QuoteThe Grand Duchy of Luxembourg had been in personal union with the Kingdom of the Netherlands from 1839 until the death of King Willem III of the Netherlands in 1890. Upon his death, the Netherlands passed to his daughter Wilhelmina, but Luxembourg passed to a distant male relative who became Adolphe, Grand Duke of Luxembourg.

The current Grand Duke is Adolphe?s great-great-great-great-grandson Henri. He became Grand Duke in 2000 when his father, Jean, abdicated in his favour.

Luxembourg is a constitutional monarchy, and Grand Duke Henri?s duties are mainly representative. Upon a Grand Duke?s (or Grand Duchess?) accession, they swear an oath to the constitution, ?I swear to observe the Constitution and the laws of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg, to maintain national independence and territorial integrity as well as public and individual freedoms.?

He does retain the power to appoint the prime minister and the government; he can dissolve the Chamber of Deputies, promulgate laws and accredit ambassadors. The Grand Duke is also commander-in-chief of the Luxembourg Army and holds the rank of general.

As part of his representative duties, the Grand Duke represents Luxembourg in foreign affairs. Henri?s first State Visit occurred in 2001 when he and his wife, Grand Duchess Maria Teresa, were invited to Spain by King Juan Carlos and Queen Sof?a of Spain.


Curryong

This is a fascinating little Grand Duchy isn?t it? Very different powers allowed to its Grand Duke than in Liechtenstein.  I suppose it reminds me of the more liberals ones in Germany before 1870 when it became Imperial Germany. A very large Ducal family and some unusual personality?s there as well. I hope Marie calms down a bit and stays most of the time in Luxembourg in the future. Henri is still Grand Duke and it would be good if things settled down. After all there?s a new baby in the family next year!

TLLK

The monarch?s role in Sweden ? Royal Central

QuoteSweden has a constitutional monarchy under a parliamentary system ? similar to that in other kingdoms in Europe. The current monarch is King Carl XVI Gustaf, who has been on the throne since 1973; his heir apparent is Crown Princess Victoria.

The monarch in Sweden does not hold the same powers as many counterparts, and his official role is limited. For example, he does not nominate or dismiss a prime minister or give royal assent to bills from the Swedish legislature (Riksdag). The King is also not the head of the armed forces but is their foremost representative. King Carl Gustaf is an admiral of the Navy, general of the Army and the Air Force, and Honorary Commander of the Life Guards and the Life Regiment Hussars.

The Swedish monarch is not crowned. King Oscar II was the last monarch to have a coronation. The royal crowns and coronets have not been worn since 1907; instead, they are displayed at royal occasions like weddings, christenings and funerals.

King Carl Gustaf, as head of state, has complete immunity from criminal charges while he is on the throne; however, he is not granted immunity from civil charges. He opens parliament once a year upon their request and receives letters of credence from foreign ambassadors to Sweden. The monarch also signs credence letters for Swedish ambassadors to other countries.

TLLK

The UFO No More site has conducted its own "tally" for the European royal families and the UK's Wales and Wessexes-the rest were not included.

How Many Days Did They Work in 2022? ? UFO No More

It begins with  Spain's Felipe  who is followed by Belgium's Phillipe and so on ending with Denmark's Mary.


LouisFerdinand



Curryong

Quote from: LouisFerdinand on September 16, 2023, 11:05:26 PM
Do Hungarians want the Monarchy back?     
Do Hungarians Want The Monarchy Back? - YouTube

No they don?t. They decided not to be harnessed to the Austrian Empire and its monarchy any more in 1919, after a disastrous war. The only people in Central Europe who possibly wouldn?t mind a restoration of their own monarchy are the Romanians, but they only want to go so far for the time being.

Curryong

Quote from: Curryong on September 17, 2023, 03:31:26 AM
No they don?t. They decided not to be harnessed to the Austrian Empire and its monarchy any more in 1919, after a disastrous war. The only people in Central Europe who possibly wouldn?t mind a restoration of their own monarchy are the Romanians, but they only want to go so far for the time being.

Actually, it was from October 1918, earlier than I thought which was around November and the end of WW1. There was the usual Central European period of chaos and tumult, invasion and occupation by other countries? troops and the proclaiming of an Hungarian republic and putting down of a Soviet in the months that followed. The Emperor Karl was personally a good, even saintly man but even he must have eventually realised that he wasn?t wanted in either Hungary or Austria. The tide of history was against Karl. It would have swept away far stronger characters than him.

LouisFerdinand

What if the French monarchy returned?   
What If The French Monarchy Returned?! HOI4 - YouTube   

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Curryong

Oh, please! The French Monarchy (and which branch?) has about as much chance of returning as I have of flying to the moon! The French population would just laugh at the possibility of such a thing. The Napoleonic branch havent been within a sniff of any throne for over 150 years, the Bourbon pretenders for nearly 200 years and the Orleans lot for nearly 300.

LouisFerdinand



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