Who is Meghan Markle's Mom, Doria Ragland? - 6 Things to Know About Prince Harry's Future Mother-in-Law (http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a16405569/meghan-markle-mother-doria-ragland/)
QuoteAll eyes will be on Meghan Markle come May 19 when she walks down the aisle of St. George's Chapel to marry Prince Harry. But they'll also be on her 61-year-old mother Doria Ragland, who, as the mother of the bride, will share in the royal spotlight, just as Carole Middleton did back in 2011.
From Ragland's career path to her relationship with her daughter, here's everything you need to know about Prince Harry's future mother-in-law.
Equally one can say that Doria's appearances in the press is her contacting the news site. Team Meghan calling the press, take a picture of my Mom, she's from humble upbringing, doing the laundry.
Reverse Social Engineering Poor versus Rich attack should not be happening.
Double post auto-merged: February 09, 2018, 01:56:59 PM
I will further address, since Doria was okay with being a social worker for her entire life should not make it a bad for the next person who has ambition of forming a company (making it a success and getting rich, all this before a Prince turned up in their lives).
No I am talking about the British press that is based in the UK.
You missed the notes that they all went to lunch after mass at Sandringham. No the press in the UK (as per usual) did their second article follow-up. :nod: :lol:
( :happy17: When the public does not like what an individual has done, but the same public is a fan of another individual that did and worst what they allegedly dislike, said public is carrying out a foot in mouth situation. )
The press is interested when Doria does her laundry, you know that will generate clicks and comments of why doesn't she have a washing machine. Walking the dog or going to the building where she works won't do the press the desired result.
QuoteRobert Lacey, royal historian and consultant to the upcoming Netflix series The Crown, says of having Carole in the front seat, ?This clearly shows that the Queen is signaling her pleasure about the arrival in the royal family of humble origins.
?We have the grandest monarchy in the world embracing right into its heart a family of humble origins,? Lacey tells PEOPLE. ?Next year is the centenary of when the royal family gave up its aristocratic name for the plainer name of Windsor ? and that set the tone for what?s happened ever since. It is one reason why the British monarchy thrives and flourishes.
?It has always been the family?s strength to adapt to changing times.?
IMHO it is a positive signal that QEII has been welcoming her royal in-laws more frequently ie: Inviting Sophie's widowed father Christopher to join the family at Sandringham. I do believe that in the future we'll see Doria and Thomas welcomed at her private estates and I believe that Charles will likely do the same. :thumbsup:
As I said, there s nothing wrong if Doria is not a ambitious business woman type. Part and simple explanation of what the press may find the public to click a Doria article, going to the laundromat.
The Middleton trust fund is correct, as also the stories of who Carole is and how she formed her company. There is interest, also she is the only grandmother of the future future future King. She will be followed forever.
Like Kate's life and family scrutinized, Meghan is also being scrutinized, although the later conceded to speak in an interview before engagement, hence the leaking to the press fandom belief.
Again the mother lives in LA and the father in Rosarito, theres a massive difference not being in England. Take also into consideration both parents need a trusty to be able to travel, as they are in a bankruptcy list for 10 years from date of declaration.
So another complaint is Carole moved to a bigger abode which affords more privacy, hence there's a problem of being ambitious.
The press will never leave Carole in the background, she's the only grandmother of the future future future King George.
Quote from: wannable on February 10, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
Again the mother lives in LA and the father in Rosarito, theres a massive difference not being in England. Take also into consideration both parents need a trusty to be able to travel, as they are in a bankruptcy list for 10 years from date of declaration.
So another complaint is Carole moved to a bigger abode which affords more privacy, hence there's a problem of being ambitious.
The press will never leave Carole in the background, she's the only grandmother of the future future future King George.
:goodpost:
Meghan's siblings are a ready made and eager supply of stories for the tabloids. They're unfortunately a gift that keeps on giving. :wacko: The tabloid press doesn't really need Doria when they already have Samantha and Thomas Jr along with ex-in-laws, nephews, and former friends. This also keeps them from having to buy photos from the LA based paparazzi.
Yes the family of the future King George are always going to be of greater interest over the in-laws of Prince Edward IMHO. The MiddletonsMatthew's are in the UK so it's easy and cheaper to place photographers outside their homes or places of business. :shrug:
A little information about the Didi Hirsch center. (They have many locations in SoCal, but Culver City would be closer to Doria's home.) :)
Didi Hirsch (http://www.didihirsch.org/)
QuoteDidi Hirsch transforms lives by providing quality mental health and substance abuse services in communities where stigma or poverty limit access.
QuoteWellness Centers
Wellness Centers at the Culver City and Inglewood sites offer classes, groups and projects that foster physical, mental and spiritual wellbeing. Members regain old skills and develop new ones, breaking down the barriers that have isolated them from the community.
QuoteWhat is there to worry about? If it worked or not, she's a great host for incoming visitors, the contrary can't be said. or in your opinion what is the middle ground of treatment to incoming guest? instead of linen bedsheets, bring it down to what 200 thread bedsheets? instead of cheese toast sandwich, feed him with?
Sounds like Carole is a good hostess who likes to make guests feel welcome. :)
Who Are Meghan Markle's Parents? - About Meghan Markle's Sister, Brother, Mother, and Father (http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/news/a47178/meghan-markle-family-parents/)
Who Is Meghan Markle's Mom? | POPSUGAR Celebrity (https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Who-Meghan-Markle-Mom-44357904)
QuoteShe's an LA lady. Doria met her now-ex-husband in Los Angeles in the 1970s, had Meghan in the same city, raised her in The Valley area, and to this day she still lives in LA. Doria herself was raised in LA, and according to her Facebook she attended Fairfax High School, before eventually getting a Master's from the University of Southern California. She currently resides in LA and has proved that she will always be an LA baby, because she's never left!
Wonder where she did her undergrad work?
Doria Ragland - Meghan Markle's mother - all you need to know (http://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/culture/culture-news/a44123/doria-ragland-meghan-markles-mum/)
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QuoteHer ancestors were slaves
Ragland's great-great-great-great grandfather worked in the Deep South plantations and was freed after the Abolition in 1865. He then chose a new name to mark his emancipation, calling himself Wisdom.
[gmod]Thread is now re-opened. Whilst it is inevitable that comparisons will be made about Doria and Carole - I ask you all to keep on topic - Doria. And certainly not about each other. SCx[/gmod]
Meghan Markle's mother Doria spotted hiking in LA | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5391705/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-spotted-hiking-LA.html)
QuoteMeghan Markle is no doubt eager to be in great shape for her upcoming wedding at it seems the mother-of-the bride is also keeping her figure in check for the big day.
The yoga instructor, 61, took her dog along as she joined her a friend for a hike in the LA hills, wearing grey leggings and a sports bra.
Boasting a figure a woman half her age would be proud of, the wellness counsellor who works for an Los Angeles-based organization specialising in treating substance abuse, was an advertisement for the toning benefits of yoga practice.
They can't get anything but BS out of Tom Sr.'s children & so now the press has decided to stalk Doria.
Whats so pathetic is they had to follow her to Target I'm surprised they didn't take pictures of her picking up what she was buying off the shelf and give us a running commentary.
@Trudie-I would like to see that Doria is going to be left alone but unfortunately the tabloids' interest is likely to continue for years. I also hope that she owns a shredder so they can't dig through her trash for anything. :no:
They are watching closely to know when she leaves for the UK.
She is aware of the paparazzi, I doubt she minds at all, 60 plus woman walking her dog in a sports bra, stomach flab in view, paparazzi proceeds to walk with her and the friend, frontal viewing of putting her shirt, enters Target, paparazzi waiting for her last picture taking.
She doesn't look great. I doubt she's doing much yoga.
You aren't looking at the same 60 year old woman I see. A 60 year old body doesn't resemble a 20 year old unless all the person does is diet & exercise to the detriment of everything else in their life.
Of course she knew the paparazzi was there, hence she went out in a sports bra. Thinking she would look good. What was she thinking? Then later proceeded to open the boot of her car, grabbed the shirt, rather than changing there, walked to the pavement, stood face forward in front of the paparazzi for her picture taking.
She did not know they were there until she left the house. I am glad she is comfortable enough in her own skin to know she doesn't need to leave the house perfectly coiffed.
Woman goes out half naked knowing the paparazzi will always be there for the money shots, knowing she is a person of interest because of her daughter.
She purposely put on her shirt frontal towards the paparazzi, rather than in front of the boot of her car when she went to fetch the shirt. Camera hungry like daughter? Maybe. A frontal picture is more worthy than a side picture.
You seem to have a rather low opinion of Doria Wannable. Doria wasn't exactly shopping Rodeo Drive dressed to impress she was in her quiet neighborhood going about her business. Perhaps she wasn't putting her shirt in front of the paparazzi on purpose but her friend was talking to her while she was doing so.
@Trudie I will stick with my opinion, the paparazzi will be stalking her, and she should know better.
IF Doria did not know, now she does, go out decently dressed for whatever occasion; sports fine, where a shirt as she later did over the sports bra, and you will not end up as fodder to the press.
In your theory of Calling...
Or not calling, but certainly a person of interest - hence followed by paparazzi who will sell the story with the pics, just for the fact that She is the Mother of the Daughter who is married to a Prince, She will Never Go Out in a Sports Bra. :D
Well Wannable dressed as she was for a hike and exercise is normal attire in LA and don't tell me you have never seen pictures of celebrities jogging and exercising dressed in that manner.
Who is Doria Radlan? Meghan Markle's mother revealed | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5418329/Who-Doria-Radlan-Meghan-Markles-mother-revealed.html)
QuoteRoyal-obsessed social media users can?t get enough of Meghan Markle?s mom Doria Radlan.
Following the announcement that the Suits actress planned to marry Prince Harry, the conversation on Twitter turned quickly to the people who raised Meghan. Fans were especially excited to learn that Meghan?s mother is black, making the 36-year-old one of the first black or bi-racial women to enter the royal family.
?This is Doria Radlan, aka Mama Meghan Markle. The British monarchy ain?t ready,? one tweeter wrote, adding the hashtag ?#BlackWithoutApology?.
?To Meghan Markle?s mom, Doria Radlan: You literally raised a princess. Your hard work of raising a mixed-race Black girl and teaching her self-love in a white dominant world does not go unnoticed,? another said. 'You are a hero.'
Meghan Markle: Suits actress said this about mother in parents themed blog post | Life | Life & Style | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/923337/meghan-markle-parents-mother-news)
QuoteIn the post, unearthed from Meghan?s now deleted blog The Tig, describes Doria in touching prose, with lots of love and warmth.
The actress describes her mother as a free spirit with a facial piercing.
She wrote of her mother: "Nose ring. Yoga instructor. Social worker. Free spirit. Lover of potato chips & lemon tarts.?
Meghan also described Doria as having excellent moves on the dance floor.
Doria Ragland visits Oprah Winfrey at her $88m mansion | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5675159/Doria-Ragland-visits-Oprah-Winfrey-88m-mansion.html)
(Consider the source!) :wink: However if it is true and there was an interview, I'd be very interested in viewing it. It would appear that Oprah's California mansion escaped the wildfires this fall.)
QuoteMeghan Markle's mother was spotted over the weekend visiting Oprah Winfrey at her home in California, just three weeks ahead of the royal wedding.
Doria Ragland made a visit to Winfrey's $88million 'Promised Land' mansion in Santa Barbara on Saturday as expectations mount for her daughter's wedding to Prince Harry in London.
The purpose of the visit is still unclear but Ragland emerged after six hours bearing gifts including a gift basket that contained some of Winfrey's favorite items.
If Doria is smart she will stay away from Oprah who is looking to use her to score an interview with Meghan
Reportedly both women are members of the Agape Church, so it is possible that this prompted their meeting. However I do believe that if Doria chooses to be interviewed (with her daughter's blessing), then Oprah Winfrey would likely conduct it in a respectable manner. :)
Michael Beckwith - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beckwith)-Founder/pastor of Agape Church. The church is based in Culver City, CA.
Hopefully it was only a meeting with showered gifts with no interviews. it won't go well with the public.
I read this story was denied by Oprah. Just another DM false story.
If true, then hopefully it will be replicated as the ladies are not friends, and if they are, let it be said to lessen the negative comments.
If they did meet, and they do not know each other, and this is a Fergie 2.0 opportunity both ways; Ophra's strategy to land interview, Doria to receive money's badly needed...I hope it ended there, just the reports of leaving Ophra's place loaded with gifts, which is The typical modus operandi of Ophra is already receiving 100% negative comments.
I don't think there are ever 100 percent negative comments.
Omid Scobie reports that a rep at @Oprah stated that the six hour meeting between Doria Ragland and Oprah never happened.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/scobie/status/991247129875279872)
Just the Fail making up fairy tales again.
Thank goodness I prefaced it with "consider the source!!" :lol:
Of course Omid Scobie cleared the true or false. He is to Meghan what Richard Kay was to Diana.
:thumbsdown: Leave Doria alone and stop speculating on her relationship with her daughter.
Doria Ragland Spotted In L.A. After Being Snubbed By Meghan Markle (https://radaronline.com/photos/doria-ragland-la-snubbed-meghan-markle/)
radaronline is one of those grubby little outlets for people with one brain cell who believe everything they read on the Internet. It's pathetic.
Quote from: sandy on May 01, 2018, 02:39:23 PM
I read this story was denied by Oprah. Just another DM false story.
I thought that I'd read that the story of the two women (Oprah and Doria) had been denied by Oprah or her representatives. Now we have confirmation from Oprah herself that they did meet after all in early May.
Oprah denied just recently that an interview was planned. the visit did not mean there would be an interview. So clear denials over the interview
Yes I realize that she said that no interview was planned but Oprah/her spokesperson denied that she and Doria had a meeting prior to the wedding.
Here is the tweet from early May that states that Oprah's rep had denied the meeting between the two women.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/scobie/status/991247129875279872)
I thought the issue was that Doria was going to be interviewed by Oprah (allegedly) not that she visited her.
Apparently Oprah's representative (speaking on her behalf) felt it necessary to state that the pair had not met in early May, but now we have Oprah's word that they did. So at that time it seems that Oprah felt it necessary to make that claim about their meeting but it is odd that there has been a 360 turn on the subject.
IMO if Doria chooses to be interviewed by Oprah Winfrey, she's well within her rights to do so. (However I do believe she'd inform Meghan and Harry first. )
I honestly don't think there would be a lot of interest in an interview with Meghan's mother. Oprah goes for more famous people and wants those ratings. I also don't think Doria would want to try to be "famous" she seems very low key and comfortable in her day to day lifestyle in the US
of course tehre would be interst, unless Meg's not as fascinating to US people as I'd imagined. I don't imaigine Doria is the type to give interviews, but IMO hanging around iwht Oprah is foolish behaviour, as there will be gossip, there will be rumours swirling around and O wil probably try and persuade her to interview.
Quote from: sandy on June 14, 2018, 12:35:09 AM
I honestly don't think there would be a lot of interest in an interview with Meghan's mother. Oprah goes for more famous people and wants those ratings. I also don't think Doria would want to try to be "famous" she seems very low key and comfortable in her day to day lifestyle in the US
I disagree. IMHO there would be a great deal of interest to hear from Meghan's mother about her daughter's new life. Meghan has attracted a new group of people who were not royal watchers in the past and I believe that they'd be very interested in finding out more about the newest member of the Windsor family.
So TLK, what could Doria say in an hour interview. My daughter is so happy now. And then what? It's not Meghan she's interviewing or Harry and some would say Doria who?
Quote from: amabel on June 14, 2018, 05:08:29 AM
of course tehre would be interst, unless Meg's not as fascinating to US people as I'd imagined. I don't imaigine Doria is the type to give interviews, but IMO hanging around iwht Oprah is foolish behaviour, as there will be gossip, there will be rumours swirling around and O wil probably try and persuade her to interview.
Allegedly the interview (which was denied) was with the mother and the daughter. It would be like Oprah interviewing Sophie's father about the Fake Sheikh scandal instead of Sophie herself.
Doria is not "hanging out" with Oprah she continues to live her own life. If she wants to visit Oprah that's entirely Doria's business.
The gossipers are the ones with the problems not Doria.
It doesn't help the Ophra admitted to invite a total stranger for 6 hours at her home. So the Daily Fail was quite right.
Oprah can do whatever she wants. Are those who don't like it going to play policeman with Oprah. Not a chance! It's a free country or so I thought. The DF was WRONG. Where is the interview, wannabe
The point is their first encounter was at Ophra's house, which was allegedly denied by Meghan's journalist friend Omid Scobie. Never was it denied by Ophra's team. The DM said, that people watching Ophra's house reported that Doria was there for 6 hours. 6 hours is pretty much close to the legal working hours per day, 8 hours. It was not an encounter in a sidewalk of 'hi there' or a sudden meet and greet of a few minutes wherever, but her house.
So what? Oprah said there would be no interview. So she was there for six hours? It's their business. Do you want a transcription of what went on.
I doubt they did 6 hours of Yoga, Iron Women not. Whatever they did for 6 hours, it was panned by Buckingham Palace, and Ophra is honoring the 6 hour encounter by quite shutting her mouth rather than spilling the beans.
QuoteSo TLK, what could Doria say in an hour interview.
For starters-Doria and her life, education. Being a PoC in the U.S. during the civil rights era. Her job on All My Children Furthering her education.
Commercial break.-New Harpo film projects.
All about her daughter: Meeting/marrying Tom Markle. Meghan's birth and early childhood. Divorce and single parenthood. Raising a biracial child. Meghan's early school years and activities. Meghan's reply to the dishwashing soap company and interest in theater and acting. Meghan in high school. Meghan's acceptance to Northwestern and her college years. Meghan's internship in Argentina. Meghan's return to Los Angeles. Meghan trying to get acting roles and her part time jobs ie: calligraphy. Meghan meets Trevor. Meghan and Trevor marry. Meghan lands role on Suits. Marriage to Trevor ends (No discussion about the divorce other than to acknowledge it.)
Commercial Break-New season of Suits trailer.
Meghan's move to Toronto and how it impacts their relationship. Meghan on Suits. Meghan's new boyfriends. Meghan's volunteer work. Meghan meets Harry. Meghan and Harry's relationship between Toronto and London. Sammantha starts her campaign against her half-sister. Tom Jr. joins in the fray. Meghan and Harry are acknowledged as a couple. Doria meets Harry at Invictus. Meghan and Harry become more serious.
Commercial Break- Random ad.
Engagement announcement. Meghan and Harry at KP. Meghan and Harry's wedding preparations. Meghan with BRF. Meghan meets UK citizens. Meghan and her new life. Dealing with the Markles' behavior. Dealing with racist comments in press. Criticism of Meghan. The wedding. The couple's new life at KP and the future.
Commercial break-Weight Watchers ad/Oprah shares her experiences with program
What does Doria see for her own future. Will she move to the UK? What about Tom's relationship with Meghan?
All of the interview segments are handled in a casual setting up at Oprah's estate in tony Montecito, CA. :) I'd expect that Oprah will also add a few video segments with Markle family footage of Meghan as a child/teen/college student, clips from "Suits" or Meghan's other tv appearances. Quick clips from the engagement interview. Footage of Meghan and Harry on tour of the UK. Clips of Sammantha/ Tom Jr spouting nonsense. Footage of the wedding. Possible quick soundbites from Suits cast, college friends, new friends from Toronto
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Quote from: wannable on June 14, 2018, 02:23:08 PM
The point is their first encounter was at Ophra's house, which was allegedly denied by Meghan's journalist friend Omid Scobie. Never was it denied by Ophra's team. The DM said, that people watching Ophra's house reported that Doria was there for 6 hours. 6 hours is pretty much close to the legal working hours per day, 8 hours. It was not an encounter in a sidewalk of 'hi there' or a sudden meet and greet of a few minutes wherever, but her house.
I though Scobie said that he'd heard the denial from Oprah's people? Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/scobie/status/991247129875279872)
But not denied in first person, as a tweet coming from a Ophra employee, the tweet is third person outsider with an alleged contact of a Ophra team member, with no name of said team member, which is very different, akin to a no named insider, which may be true or false or mislead.
6 hours of Doria at a TV personality house, they did not speak, they only did a 6 hour yoga session. Right!
Here an ex athlete me me me wannable saying it how it is :wink:
No, as mother to a royal, knowing that her daughter is marrying a prince, going to a TV personalities home with no previous record of visits is of public interest, which was reported, hence good to go, discuss.
So far I am glad the interview has not been aired, hence I mentioned Ophra may be honoring the BP non disclosure, and as a pass by damage control, said what she said in the red carpet, confirming Doria went to my house for yoga and fruit. Nobody believes 6 hours of yoga took place, or that they stayed in mute mode.
Lunch or whatever in Ophra's house, hopefully Doria's comments to Ophra do not end up in a book, papers, etc. Indiscreet, knowing her daughter is to marry a prince in a couple of weeks when the visit happened.
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She was not a "royal" when Doria met Oprah.
So what do you want to have happened? Oprah listened to Doria's Complaints and then handed her a box of money she would not have to report to the IRS?
What are you getting at?
Quote from: wannable on June 14, 2018, 03:01:43 PM
But not denied in first person, as a tweet coming from a Ophra employee, the tweet is third person outsider with an alleged contact of a Ophra team member, with no name of said team member, which is very different, akin to a no named insider, which may be true or false or mislead.
Ok thanks for your thoughts on this. I just find the whole business of Oprah/anonymous Oprah staffer's "denial" and then Oprah's confirmation of the meeting with Doria to be odd.
Oprah would want interviews with Key Players that would get Ratings--not the parents. Doria has gone back to her lifestyle and Oprah did not give her $$$ or a new house or anything like that.
I don't think any of this is "odd."It is a big tempest in a teapot. IMO.
The main thing that kept Tom Sr from the wedding was the procedure to remove blockage. Not the TMZ. He's faded into the background again which is something he probably prefers.
I disagree. IMHO the parents are key players as they've been involved in Meghan's life far longer than anyone else on this planet. Who else could provide the same background information as her mother and father? Her half-siblings were much older and didn't live with her for that long. (Besides Tom Jr. and Samantha have more or less discredited themselves for months.)
Doria is truly the only family member that has not shown themselves to be unreliable sources of information. I believe that an interview with her would draw many, many viewers who are interested in an American, bi-racial newly married member of the British royal family. Meghan's arrival into the BRF has sparked interest for those who couldn't really "relate" to the Windsors.
We've seen interviews with Meghan and the Windsors. However only her mother or possibly Trevor Engleson would be the ones to really catch the attention of those wanting to know about Meghan from the ones who know her best. And with Trevor not speaking about Meghan, it's Doria that they'll want to speak with.
I doubt that Oprah really wants to chat with Tom Sr. because he's dubbed TMZ as his spokespersons.
Generally the parents fade into the background. Even the Middletons are low key and Sophie's father is in the background. Why would there be any interest in what the parents say. Maybe Doria could talk for an hour about Meghan's school days, her graduation and so on. But I doubt there would be much interest in it. Doria did not go out and preen for the cameras, she just goes about her business. Whatever happened with Oprah went on in Oprah's home and it was Private.
The big interest would be if Oprah could get Meghan to agree to an interview.
Trevor has moved on and is remarrying. Why would he give interviews about his ex who has just remarried?
Some people don't want to do interviews and want to live their lives.
Doria seems to like her privacy.
QuoteGenerally the parents fade into the background. Even the Middletons are low key and Sophie's father is in the background. Why would there be any interest in what the parents say. Maybe Doria could talk for an hour about Meghan's school days, her graduation and so on. But I doubt there would be much interest in it. Doria did not go out and preen for the cameras, she just goes about her business. Whatever happened with Oprah went on in Oprah's home and it was Private.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the interest level if Doria chose to do an interview with Oprah. IMHO there would be tremendous interest for veteran and new royal watchers, Suits fans and those who just want to know about Meghan especially in the UK.
IMO there would be great interest because the Wales' brothers have been of interest since birth and even more so after Diana's death. IMHO there is far greater worldwide interest in them than their other royal relatives.
Meghan unlike her sister-in-law is a relative newcomer who has a story very similar to Grace Kelly and Prince Rainier. American actress finds a prince who takes her to a new land. It was a 50's fairytale and now it is being repeated in the UK. To get the background story from her beloved mother on Meghan prior to meeting Harry would be a coup for Oprah!
DOria seems to be comfortable with her lifestyle as it is now.
What can she say in an interview? Oprah probably would want her to talk about the controversial things like the ex stepchildren. Doria probably would not want to talk about such personal things.
Diana's sons have been famous since their respective births. Doria only became known recently. Not the same thing at all. No comparison as far as I'm concerned.
I don't recall any interest in interviews with Grace Kelly's mother.
Sorry I don't see this as a "coup."
Those who want this to happen (in comments sections and social media sites) see it as something else they can bash Meghan about. That Doria is mercenary and wants to benefit financially by talking about her daughter. Other sites talk about her talking about racism and some critics holding this against Meghan.
I think Oprah will not push this. Maybe she just wanted to meet Doria.
If this is on TV it will get low ratings. I doubt Doria wants this interview (alleged) because she does not seem to crave the limelight.
Quote from: sandy on June 14, 2018, 11:12:09 PM
Generally the parents fade into the background. Even the Middletons are low key and Sophie's father is in the background. Why would there be any interest in what the parents say. Maybe Doria could talk for an hour about Meghan's school days, her graduation and so on. But I doubt there would be much interest in it. Doria did not go out and preen for the cameras, she just goes about her business. Whatever happened with Oprah went on in Oprah's home and it was Private.
The big interest would be if Oprah could get Meghan to agree to an interview.
Trev
If she liks her privacy I 'd advise her to stay away from Oprah.. and I think there is an interest in Meg in the US and since Meghan isn't going to be there, her mother is the next best thing to feed that interest. And the Middletons are not "low key" in terms of the interest taken in htem by the Press here. There are loads of stories..
You can't tell Doria what to do. It's her business. If she wanted to visit Oprah and accept her invitation why is it a bad thing?
The Middletons have not been seen as much as they have in the past. The parents that is. Pippa is shown walking around nearly every day.
Just because some avid media people stalked Doria, it is still nobody's business who she visited or did not visit.
The fact that Ophra invited total stranger Doria (as it also has been confirmed that they have never ever in the past met on a one to one basis, nor acquainted. Being members of the same whatever does not translate to "we are friends". Same as some extreme fans who said in the past that Chelsea owner multibillionaire Abramovich has his property right next door to M&C Middleton's, they are buddies) to her house and the later accepted is sufficient that both ladies have intention; the first to land an exclusive the later to cash in.
Time will tell if the exclusive falls apart, nevertheless all what Doria said in 6 hours, Ophra already has it. So, Ophra may honor a code of silence now, but it will never guarantee if the beans will be available during her lifetime or after death.
QuoteSorry I don't see this as a "coup."
Even though Oprah Winfrey is one of the top figures in the entertainment industry as a producer, director, actress and interviewer even she has to compete with others to remain relevant. An interview with the reclusive and quiet Doria Ragland would be a ratings coup for her. It sends a loud and powerful message especially to that Oprah is
THE trusted and respected interviewer if Doria (Meghan) would be willing to sit down and share about the new Duchess of Cambridge. (Take that Barbara Walters!) Meghan is the new Grace Kelly/Princess Grace for the 21st century. She's an American, bi-racial, former tv actress, divorced woman with "interesting family" who married Diana's son and is now a member of the most visible royal family on the planet. That in itself has drawn in more so many more people who are now following the British royal family.
QuoteIf she liks her privacy I 'd advise her to stay away from Oprah.. and I think there is an interest in Meg in the US and since Meghan isn't going to be there, her mother is the next best thing to feed that interest.
@amabel-Yesterday I saw her featured on at least most of the tabloid covers, she's definitely big interest here. There will be increased interest in the Windsors with the newest member.
If Doria did choose to be interviewed by Oprah, it would be with Meghan/Harry's blessing. There have been several who have wanted to put out their story about Meghan and her history (Nikkah, Samantha, Tom Jr.) and those who have been silent (Doria, Trevor, and to some degree Tom Sr.).Now I don't see Meghan doing any lengthy interviews with anyone for the near future. The engagement interview seems to be the only one typically done and that is for the purpose of introducing the fiance to the nation. This is the opportunity for Meghan to share her history through a trusted and IMO respected source: her mother.
Quote from: wannable on June 15, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
I have said nasty things Spencers/Diana have factually done: Spencers two sisters dated Charles knowingly this family wanted to marry any of their children to the BRF. And Diana threw herself down the stairs.
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I can't imagine what you think is so wong about that. Of course the Spencer would LIKE one of their daughters to marry the King, but its hardly a crime to feel that ambition, I don't believe thtey made any particular effforts to get him to go out with the girls. and Diana did not throw herself down the stairs.... she retconned a fall
Doria should not go to Oprah's because O is an ambitious woman who will certainly play on her friendship... but if she wants to go, if she ends up doing an interview, that's her business. However, its a ibt iffy to act like you don't want media attention, and then allow someone like O to cultivate you
Oprah cannot force anybody to be interviewed. Doria would have been given a contract. I think Doria is concerned that her daughter is happy so I doubt she'd do a tell all. And it probably would provoke her former step children to go to the media and it would have serious ramifications if Oprah asks her questions about how she gets along with Samantha. She's not going to get ratings by saying how Meghan did in school. She would pull a Frances Shand Kydd if she went to Oprah and gave an indiscreet interview.
Maybe Doria just visited her. It is their business and they are not obligated to write detailed reports of how the 6 hours were spent. It would sound like a Police State in that case.
Ophra did not force Doria to go to her house for 6 hours. As I said, and noted by my fleetstreet veteran friend, those 6 hours already constitutes a 6 hour conversation that O may sell sooner or later, death memoir, etc.
It's Oprah not Ophra
The Fleetstreet veteran friend was not in the house with them. She can't "sell" memoirs without permission of Meghan and her mother. She would get sued. Your proof is a he said she said sort of thing by a journalist of all people who was not there. So they talked steadily for 6 hours. Maybe you should subtract the time from your log and allow them eating and bathroom breaks. So someone had a stopwatch and timed the visit? How did they get past security to hide in the bushes?
This is getting weird now.
QuoteNo Meghan is not just like Grace Kelly. Grace Kelly was a famous Hollywood actress and Academy Award winner who married the Prince of Monaco, and she was a reigning PRincess Consort.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one as while Grace married into the relatively unknown at the time Monegasque family, Meghan has married into the family that far outshines the Principality of Monaco in prestige and influence. Prince Harry was THE most eligible royal bachelor in recent years.
IMO Meghan is the new version of Grace Kelly considering her career choice and her American background for the 21st century.
Doria cannot sue Oprah, she went for 6 hours to the later's house knowing that the later is a TV Celebrity specialized in telling stories of her guests, validated precisely by first hand knowledge.
Oprah has personnel working at her house.
Getting weird maybe, but in the USA if you sue someone, better have all the cards, one misplaced card, like the above, factually a lawyer or a court will dismiss any wrong doing by O, when a judge quizzes and says the following: You drove over to O house. Answer: Yes. You stayed for 6 hours. Answer: Yes.
Quote from: TLLK on June 15, 2018, 05:43:42 PM
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one as while Grace married into the relatively unknown at the time Monegasque family, Meghan has married into the family that far outshines the Principality of Monaco in prestige and influence. Prince Harry was THE most eligible royal bachelor in recent years.
IMO Meghan is the new version of Grace Kelly considering her career choice and her American background for the 21st century.
Grace was certainly a bigger star than Meghan who is just an average TV actress... and Meg has married into a much more prestigious RF...
She is indeed nothing like Grace, a "movie star".
Quote from: wannable on June 15, 2018, 05:51:20 PM
Doria cannot sue Oprah, she went for 6 hours to the later's house knowing that the later is a TV Celebrity specialized in telling stories of her guests, validated precisely by first hand knowledge.
Oprah has personnel working at her house.
Getting weird maybe, but in the USA if you sue someone, better have all the cards, one misplaced card, like the above, factually a lawyer or a court will dismiss any wrong doing by O, when a judge quizzes and says the following: You drove over to O house. Answer: Yes. You stayed for 6 hours. Answer: Yes.
In the very unlikely event that Oprah goes ahead with the "interview" and does not give Doria a form to sing with permissions, yes she can be sued. Oprah has wall to wall lawyers and certainly guards against lawsuits.
Why would this go to court and what does Doria spending 6 hours at Oprah's place have to do with anything? Timing the visit of Doria is stalking and spying on her.
Who would ask these questions. I don't even think Doria "timed" the visit.
The personnel working would not "spy" on the person that pays their salaries.
OK, I've kept away from this non subject so far but here is my take on what happened.
Oprah and Doria belong to the same LA church. Oprah didn't know Doria before on a personal level I would guess. However, she got to know, through members of her church, that it was Doria's daughter who was dating Prince Harry. She filed this away in her mind, as any businesswoman would, for possible future use.
After the engagement was announced IMO feelers went out on Oprah's side, to Doria, 'How interesting and wonderful that your daughter etc etc' and Doria, flattered, (who wouldn't be?) responded. Oprah then upped it a bit. 'Why not come and visit me? I would love a talk..' Now, Doria is no idiot, she knew what Oprah was about. She visited but remained noncommittal, and certainly didn't sign anything.
The news leaked out. An Oprah aide, faced with a query from the media and not knowing how to reply, goes into defence mode, Visit denied. Doria goes to England, I believe having asked her daughter if Oprah could go to the wedding and is fishing for an exclusive interview. Doria, not knowing how things are with the BRF and interviews, is in two minds about it.
However, once there in England, meeting Queen, Prince Charles, (though I don't believe Oprah was mentioned to them, lol) and talking it over face to face with Harry and Meghan, realises that a backlash against Meghan would be almost certain in her daughter's adopted country. She tells Oprah any interview is off. Oprah has got a wish which never happened in Diana's day though she wanted it to, her presence at a Royal occasion, and is philiosophical about the proposed interview. These things happen. You win some, you lose some.
^^^ A very reasonable summary of what could have transpired between Oprah and Doria
@Curryong. :)
I'd keep well away from Oprah... she should know that...
Quote from: amabel on June 16, 2018, 05:33:04 AM
I'd keep well away from Oprah... she should know that...
But amabel, you aren't a person of colour living in the United States of America. Oprah is hugely admired there, especially among the African American community, and has been for decades. She is the person who broke the glass ceiling in so many ways. She's even been suggested as a possible future President, though she has denied she intends to run.
Also the attitude towards royalty and going on TV talking about them to someone of Oprah's stature is completely different in the US to the UK. IMO it's no good applying UK (or Irish) standards of what's acceptable and what's not to another very different culture and society.
I certainly don't blame Doria for being flattered at an approach from Oprah or for visiting her. However, we have to remember. Doria has never spoken about it, didn't sign anything, IMO she remained noncommittal until she could see what the lay of the land was with the BRF and until she spoke with her daughter face to face. Very cautious I think.
Given how the rest of Meg's family have behaved, even her father, I would HOPE that Doria had the sense to be cautious. And I ca't see what is so wonderful about Oprah.. She is pretty obviously a ruthless businesswoman and Im sure Doria has the sense to know that any more chitter chatter from Meg's family, would not go down well in the UK.. (at least she should have).
A lot of people don't agree with you about Oprah. I don't see her as a "ruthless businesswoman." I doubt she would "trap" Doria into doing anything she doesn't want to do. Doria is also loyal and loving to her daughter and is not going to go amok with the media like her ex stepdaughter does.
Fine. lots of people don't agree with me about lots of things...
It is to Oprah's credit that she kept far away from Samantha who probably would eagerly push for an interview with her if she were given the chance.
I think Oprah knows that if she wants to preserve an image of being "well bred" (or classy as Americans say) she has to keep away fom the Markle side of the family. Of course they will talk, but they are not going to add any lustre to Opra's reputation if they are all she can get
She probably just ignored them unlike some in the UK press who appear to hang on to Samantha's every word.
Because she knows that if she wants to appear a serious interviewer, she can't rely on the Markles - She has to go for the most respectable member of the family, ie Doria?..
QuoteBut amabel, you aren't a person of colour living in the United States of America. Oprah is hugely admired there, especially among the African American community, and has been for decades. She is the person who broke the glass ceiling in so many ways. She's even been suggested as a possible future President, though she has denied she intends to run.
Just want to add that Oprah over the decades has really become one of the most admired women in the U.S. across race, ethnic, socio-economic groups. She started as a fairly local tv personality in the Chicago area to become one of the nation's most watched afternoon programs. She recognized early on that she needed to rebrand from the OTT daytime shows ie: Sally Jessy Rafael, Maury Povich to focus on positive and uplifting segments. Her generosity is well-known and her business acuity is legendary.
Her lifelong struggle with her weight makes her relatable to many people and her background story is impressive IMO.
Should Doria (with KP's blessing only) choose to be interviewed by Oprah, it would be a very tasteful and respectful interview IMHO.
I would say that KP wont say anything, they'll leave it up to her, and if it all goes pear shapred, they will just preserve silence. but I can't imagine the RF would be too crazy about Doria giving Oprah a coup...
Doria does not seem to crave the limelight. And what could she say about her daughter for one hour, show photo albums of Meghan growing up and so forth. This would be more like a This is Your Life scenario where there is a tribute to Meghan with family and friends talking about her.
it would be very boring, true but there is an insatiatble appetite for stuff about Meghan in the US, so Im sure it would do well. Otherwise Oprah would harly be interested
I can totally understand that Doria may have wanted to give an interview to Oprah. It is a big media scoop (but not without its risks). What I think is ridiculous is the "Meghan Warriors" telling us that somehow what she is doing is morally superior to anything the Middletons have ever done. I am interesting in mocking the double standards. That is why this is such a great thread. :goodpost:
Oprah trying to stay relevant like Rivera yapping away on a bogus news channel. Who's next Springer? :lol: :orchid:
Actually, I read the other day that the Jerry Springer Show is probably going to be cancelled. It's overstayed its welcome by about ten to fifteen years, IMO.
Wasnt it all ready cancelled? :lol: All these 80's-1990's talk show hosts giving an opinion or interview. Someone ask Ricki Lake what she thinks. :lol: :orchid:
Quote from: Curryong on June 17, 2018, 10:01:04 AM
Actually, I read the other day that the Jerry Springer Show is probably going to be cancelled. It's overstayed its welcome by about ten to fifteen years, IMO.
Hear! Hear! Great news because IMO he is attracts the worst of the worst. Thank goodness Oprah realized that the trend for outrageous "talk shows" was not something she wanted to be a part of for her viewers. IMO this is why she would be the perfect host for an interview with Ms. Ragland if this is something she would choose to do.
What exactly can Ms Ragland say?
I gave a detailed list of topics that Ms. Ragland could discuss in an interview with Oprah a few posts up.
In addition she could discuss the challenges of being a single parent of raising a biracial child. Dealing with press interest ...😊
Ms Ragland looks like she enjoys living her life doing ordinary things and she does not seem the type to appear on an interview show with Oprah. Many biracial children are born each year, it is not really that "unique" anymore.
I don't see much press interest in her since the wedding itself.
^^^
QuoteMany biracial children are born each year, it is not really that "unique" anymore.
While it is true that many more biracial children are born, it doesn't necessarily mean that the issues of being bi-racial have disappeared. Doria was thought to be Meghan's babysitter or nanny instead of her mother. That continues today even in communities with large numbers of biracial children like my own. :) Now if she wanted to or if Meghan requested her to do an interview with someone then I believe that she would choose Oprah. :)
I still can't see how Doria would want to do the interview and I can't see many interested in tuning it in.
On this we will again have to agree to disagree. IMHO there is great interest in Meghan and who else than her mother would know her complete story. :)
I just hope her mother did not give QueenOprah an interview. I hope Doria remains silent. Let the world find out more and more aboutM,DofS as time goes on. It is just swirling of good that is true and bad that is not true, just let it.
I like how Doria has conducted herself. Silence is a mystery. Silence is classy. No ammunition for the media to pick apart.
Biracial children born into the BRF are still unique and people will talk about it. Even ordinary people who have biracial children still face issues. I also suspect that someone like Oprah may be interested to find out how someone from a different country, race and background is treated in the BRF. For a long time, the family was traduced in the popular press as being a bunch of cold fishes. Doria and even Meghan (if they make the questionable decision to open up to the press) might shed more light on this. I think that in any case, BRF is bending forwards and backwards to ensure they roll out the carpet. It would be dreadful if a biracial member complained about being left out in the cold...that is the reality of the PC world we live in today. You have to over-compensate in order to not to appear to be a bigot.
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It seems Thomas Markle senior has beaten her to the post with his own exclusive. He talks about everything from warning Harry not to beat his daughter to Harry's seeming support for Brexit and Trump (I kid you not). I don't think the BRF has ever seen in-laws quite like these. :hehe:
^^^No and IMO KP/BP have no way to convince them to remain silent especially Samantha who has nothing to lose. It was likely easier to keep most of the British born in-laws in line with a reminder that they wouldn't want to do anything to embarrass their child. I'm half expecting her to "follow up" on her father's interview today with her own "thoughts." :wacko:
QuoteBiracial children born into the BRF are still unique and people will talk about it.
And not just the BRF but throughout the royal world. Reportedly one of the "reasons" given for wanting to keep the Imperial throne male only was stated as "What if Princess Aiko meets a blue eyed man and marries him?" :wacko: (Aiko is the only daughter of the CP couple.)
Not truly bi-racial, but being half-English was not always seen as something positive for the children of King Hussein and Princess Muna. Allegedly they were not considered to be "fully Jordanian."
Other bi-racial royals include Denmark's Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix who are the children of Prince Joachim and the former Princess Alexandra (half-Caucasian/half Asian). Lichtenstein's Prince Alfons the only son of Prince Maximillian and Princess Angela (African Panamanian). There are also a few bi-racial members of the Thai royal family as one of the late King Bhumindol's daughters had married a Caucasian American making their children half Caucasian and half Asian.
According to someone on another forum who checked, she already has, with a continuation of an attack on her half sister.
^^^Well it looks like my Samantha ugly comment radar is still working. :( :thumbsdown:
Apparently she had a swing at the couple for not visiting Tom Sr. yet as yesterday was Father's Day in the U.S.
Meghan Markle?s half sister Samantha?s latest Twitter rant about the Duchess (https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/samantha-markle-accuses-meghan-of-ignoring-their-dad-thomas-on-fathers-day/news-story/8b33a5ecaf6844a744ad5a000a7dc562)
QuoteMEGHAN Markle?s half sister Samantha has accused the new Duchess of Sussex of ignoring their dad on Father?s Day.
Samantha claimed Meghan abandoned publicised ?PR? plans to visit Thomas Markle, after reports surfaced after the royal wedding that the former actress and Prince Harry would organise a meeting with him.
The 53-year-old from Florida used Father?s Day in the UK (Sunday) to ridicule Meghan?s charitable work, questioning her commitment to being a humanitarian when she hadn?t visited her dad.
Doria is Meghan's only reliable and respected close family member IMO. (Not trying to slam any Markle/Ragland family member who has remained silent, hence the word "close."
Quote from: sandy on June 18, 2018, 01:44:55 AM
I still can't see how Doria would want to do the interview and I can't see many interested in tuning it in.
YOu must be kidding. There is massive interest in Meghan among Americans. Eveything abut her has been discussed at tedious and mind numbing detail so she certainly has plenty of people who find her interesting...
No I'm not kidding. Believe it or not, people would say Doria who? I live in the US and I should know. Had she been interviewing Meghan, sure the interest would be great. But just Doria? I doubt it very much.
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on June 18, 2018, 04:53:00 AM
Biracial children born into the BRF are still unique and people will talk about it. Even ordinary people who have biracial children still face issues. I also suspect that someone like Oprah may be interested to find out how someone from a different country, race and background is treated in the BRF. For a long time, the family was traduced in the popular press as being a bunch of cold fishes. Doria and even Meghan (if they make the questionable decision to open up to the press) might shed more light on this. I think that in any case, BRF is bending forwards and backwards to ensure they roll out the carpet. It would be dreadful if a biracial member complained about being left out in the cold...that is the reality of the PC world we live in today. You have to over-compensate in order to not to appear to be a bigot.
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It seems Thomas Markle senior has beaten her to the post with his own exclusive. He talks about everything from warning Harry not to beat his daughter to Harry's seeming support for Brexit and Trump (I kid you not). I don't think the BRF has ever seen in-laws quite like these. :hehe:
Meghan is not born into the royal family.. The children she has with Harry would technically be 3/4 white.
@amabel - Yes. Meghan is very popular and featured frequently on tabloid magazine covers here in the U.S.
Yes, Meghan surely is but I don't think there would be interest in her mother talking to Oprah for an hour. Maybe and very hopefully Doria learns how not to behave from her ex husband who now is blabbing to the media.
^^^On this we'll have to agree to disagree as Doria would be the one respected family member who could supply the best anecdotes, memories and observations of Meghan as a baby, toddler, child, tween, teen, college student and adult. All of this would provide interest to an interview. There is no one else on the planet who would have known Meghan long enough to be able to share this type of insight into her life. :)
Should Doria agree to an interview with Oprah, there would be tremendous interest into what her dignified and private mother would have to share.
Unfortunately Tom Sr. seems to have taken himself out of the "respected family member" category. :wacko:
i don't think it would go down well with the RF if Doria does an interview, not after this one from her father!
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Quote from: sandy on June 18, 2018, 11:34:36 PM
Yes, Meghan surely is but I don't think there would be interest in her mother talking to Oprah for an hour. Maybe and very hopefully Doria learns how not to behave from her ex husband who now is blabbing to the media.
course tehre will. There are loads of people who are crazy about Meghan
But Doria is not Meghan.
I think Meghan bashers are crossing their fingers that Doria will give an interview.
^^^I disagree. Bashers are interested in dirt, snark and innuendos. :thumbsdown: (Just look at those who spend hours bashing their least favorite royals like Charles, Camilla, Fergie, etc...) <_< Doria is not going to provide that in an interview and Oprah will not take the low road when it comes to Meghan Markle. This isn't Tom Markle Sr. or Uncle Gary Goldsmith who believe that they're "defending" their loved one with their interviews with the tabloids. Why would Meghan "bashers" want to hear stories about Meghan's life, accomplishments and her future from her mother? Doria's shown herself to be the discreet and respectable family member who would only relate the best of her daughter's life though I doubt anyone would mind if we hear about some innocent childhood scrapes. Bashers are not going to be entranced by that type of information.
IMHO the "bashers" want to hear from her half-siblings who would not have anything positive to say about Meghan. The dishing and snark would come from them, not Doria.
Visit any of the royal discussion forums that are focused upon "gossip" and "dish." Their posters are ravenous for anything that would put Meghan in a bad light, so they would be disappointed in anything that Oprah asks Doria.
THe bashers want to prove that Doria needed $$$$ so she "sold out" her daughter and did a TV show. They can put a bad spin on anything Meghan does or says or wears.
There is no evidence that there will be an interview.
The bashers would also accuse Doria of joining Oprah to call out people for being "Racists." I read this from a few people who bash MEghan on DM threads.
QuoteThe bashers would also accuse Doria of joining Oprah to call out people for being "Racists." I read this from a few people who bash MEghan on DM threads.
Why would you pay any attention to what these people say? :shrug: They're only interested in the worst possible innuendo, rumor, and fake news. These "bashers" might have multiple accounts and often times are just looking to wind up Meghan's defenders. They probably don't even care about Meghan at all but they know they can send her fans into a frenzy with bizarre and rude comments. Ignore them and don't give them a reply. That's what they feed on.
For a respected and dignified Doria to participate in an interview with Oprah would go against everything they want to hear. They don't want to hear about Meghan's childhood, accomplishments and dreams. Those who truly dislike Meghan want to hear garbage from Samantha, Tom Jr. and would be thrilled if Meghan's ex-husband were to speak. (Which I doubt will happen.)
Perhaps Oprah should invite Doria again to her home as a friend, rather than this once in the lifetime ever, it would dispel the 6 hours of supposed yoga.
Quote from: sandy on June 19, 2018, 10:44:17 PM
But Doria is not Meghan.
I think Meghan bashers are crossing their fingers that Doria will give an interview.
and what do you think the interview will be billed as Doria the mother of Meghan Markle the PRINCESS. Of course there will be laods of people who are interested.. otherwise Oprah would not consider it..
and unless Doria is likely to say embarrassing things about her daughter I don't know why you think "Meghan bashers" will want her to give the interview. Surely she's not likely to do that?
I am not so certain "loads" would tune into it. Oprah never said she was planning any such interview.
I am reading the posts and they want Doria to do it so they can say she is selling out for $$$$. And some are fans of Samantha and want to prove her "right.".
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Quote from: wannable on June 19, 2018, 11:49:14 PM
Perhaps Oprah should invite Doria again to her home as a friend, rather than this once in the lifetime ever, it would dispel the 6 hours of supposed yoga.
What hours of yoga? What are you talking about?
It's t heir business whatever they do, why the rush to judgments?
The horses mouth said she invited Doria to do yoga. Her employees at the USD 85 million mansion said Doria was there for 6 hours.
So
@sandy ask the 'what are you talking about' to Oprah.
Are her employees paid to spy on her?
The way this is scrutinized by some one would t hink the fate of the Planet is at stake.
No, just random people who will tell a journalist. You act like if you were new in how journalists get information; a maid, a waiter, a bouncer, anyone that was there, etc.
QuoteI am reading the posts and they want Doria to do it so they can say she is selling out for $$$$. And some are fans of Samantha and want to prove her "right.".
Oprah could choose to compensate Doria by donating to a charity and the naysayers will still bray. Oprah could focus on Meghan's strengths, hard work and success in life and there will always be a group of moaners. Meghan knew this would be the case when she married a high profile man like Harry. Why bother with someone like Samantha who has a knack of trying to spoil things, when people can choose to ignore her. :shrug: Most public figures know that they can't please everyone. IMHO there will always be miserable people who choose to ignore the good and harp on anything. For example William was in Liverpool yesterday opening a men's suicide center. So while most of the comments are positive about the event of there are those who are complaining about something irrelevant to the event like his education. :blink:
Why worry about Samantha's small minded followers when there is an opportunity to share positive stories about Meghan. :) Those who are new to royal watching because of Meghan are very likely to tune in. Oprah excels at showing the best of humanity so she'd focus on the lady's accomplishments and keep the tone light.
The trouble is that some in the media do not ignore Samantha.
"Some" not all, there is a purpose to their interest in the Samantha vitriol, she earns clicks which generate income. :shrug: Of course they're going to feature her "information." :notamused:
This is why an interview with the dignified and respectable Doria would speak volumes in a positive manner after months of mudslinging from Samantha and Tom Jr IMHO. :)
It would serve to inspire Samantha and Tom Jr and maybe Tom Sr. to rush to the media for a Rebuttal. I don't think this interview will happen.
A typical Samantha/Tom Jr. rebuttal would only serve to show them as the same spiteful buffoons. :lol:
An interview with the dignified Doria would most likely to demonstrate that she is truly Meghan's best ally (besides Harry.) :nod:
I don't think Doria has to give an interview to show that she is Meghan's best ally.
However if she wants to do one with the Sussex's blessing then I believe that she should have the opportunity to do so. :)
Maybe she does not want to.
Then again she may wish to participate in one with her daughter and son-in-law's blessing. :) If that is the case, then I'd support the idea.
It would be very foolish of her. SHe's almost the only one of M's family to keep her mouth shut.. and she shold stay that way
I don't think there is any point to an interview with Doria.
Of course there is a point. MONEY. Oprah would no doubt love to get the scoop..
What scoop? IT would be as dull as Oprah having an hour interview with Brad Pitt's mother.
Im suere that Meg's many fans who discuss her endlessly on discussion groups, would not find it dull,. Would Oprah be interested in doig it, if she didn't think it would attract veiwers and revenue. no. I don't know why you don't think it would arouse interest when tehre aere so many Meg fans
How are you so sure about that?
Doria is not Meghan. If Meghan appeared with Oprah it would mean big ratings and carping by the bashers.
It would be like an hour with George Clooney's mother or the mother of another famous person saying how they did well in school.
Quote from: amabel on June 23, 2018, 01:40:22 PM
Im suere that Meg's many fans who discuss her endlessly on discussion groups, would not find it dull,. Would Oprah be interested in doig it, if she didn't think it would attract veiwers and revenue. no. I don't know why you don't think it would arouse interest when tehre aere so many Meg fans
I live fairly close to Doria's neighborhood. (Within a 20 minute drive without traffic...which is almost never in Los Angeles :lol:, but close enough.)
Heard a group of older (about 60 years on up) African American ladies discussing Meghan this morning at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, they can't get enough of her. Considering that they are reading everything about Meghan that they can lay their hands on, I would safely predict that they'd love to see Oprah Winfrey conduct an interview with Meghan. In there eyes, she's a local girl who has "made it." Yes I believe that the interest from Meghan's home city, county, state and country is there. :thumbsup:
Now I do understand that some people have reservations about Doria speaking to anyone in light of Tom Sr.'s recent interview with GMB, however I do believe that Doria would bring a positive and dignified voice that would serve to counter any of her half-siblings' rants. :)
Yes, they can't get enough of Meghan not her mother. Doria would only inflame Samantha to want equal time. IMO
Too bad that Samantha wouldn't get that equal time with Oprah Winfrey but hey Jerry Springer might have an opening. :P
On this we'll have to agree to disagree as these ladies live in View Park Windsor Hills which is Doria's neighborhood. Based upon what they were saying, yes I believe that Doria's remarks and memories of Meghan would be of interest to them. :)
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QuoteBut neighbors in Windsor Hills can?t contain their excitement about their local girl becoming a princess.
?Heyyyyyy. I think it?s great! She?s beautiful, intelligent and will get along very well with the queen,? said one woman.
?I think it?s good for people not to forget where you come from,? said neighbor Mary Whitehead.
Tom's interview was seen as tacky. I doubt Doria would want to do the same thing.
Interviews with parents of princesses have not happened when they are on a talk show. John Spencer made some comments to reporters about Diana but no sit down interview. Frances Shand Kydd made indiscreet comments about DIana's divorce to a reporter which angered Diana. The Middletons have not sat down for an interview about Kate. Why would Doria break precedent?
IMO even though there is incredible interest in Meghan and Doria is viewed in a positive light, the interview would only occur with the blessing of the other Sussexes. No approval, no interview. :shrug:
I don't think that the Sussexes would interfere if Doira wanted to do it. They cant' very well tell her not to and generally the RF don't intervene in such situaitons.. THey just sit back and if it goes pear shaped, they are probably pleased...
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Quote from: sandy on June 24, 2018, 01:04:10 AM
Tom's interview was seen as tacky. I doubt Doria would want to do the same thing.
Interviews with parents of princesses have not happened when they are on a talk show. John Spencer made some comments to reporters about Diana but no sit down interview. Frances Shand Kydd made indiscreet comments about DIana's divorce to a reporter which angered Diana. The Middletons have not sat down for an interview about Kate. Why would Doria break precedent?
This is a different time and different people. Meghan is American, she's a celebrity.. and her mother knows Oprah. Not ot mention the fact that even in the past, many fo Dis' relataves DID do interviews with the press anyway...
Of course ther would be a market for an interview with Doria. Orpah would probably like to get Meghan but that's not likely to happen so the next best thing is Doria. Of course tehre will be people who like Meg and want to hear a lot of trival stuff about her.. she is mega discussed...
Diana's brother got a short lived job with the Today show. As a commentator. Diana's mother did not do a sit down interview and neither did her father.
Quote from: sandy on June 24, 2018, 12:45:14 PM
Diana's brother got a short lived job with the Today show. As a commentator. Diana's mother did not do a sit down interview and neither did her father.
They all did interview with the Press. Charles S was a commentator on Di's wedding and he talked about Diana. It was a less TV and Internet time, back then.... so it was more likely that they wuld do their interviews in a print journalism format... but they did dpseak to the Press about Diana.. so I can't see what the difference would be in Doria doing the same on TV about Meghan
QuoteThis is a different time and different people. Meghan is American, she's a celebrity.. and her mother knows Oprah
I agree
@amabel . If there was to be an interview, IMHO it would be marketed to and watched by a wide audience that includes the demographic that I described in my above post. This is truly a unique conversation between Oprah and the well respected Doria that is compelling to many Americans. It features a young, ambitious, educated, attractive, bi-racial American woman that fate joined with a PRINCE. (Nearly every culture on Earth has its version of a "Cinderella" story.) Consider too that would be presented by one of the foremost leaders in the entertainment industry.
Quote from: amabel on June 24, 2018, 12:54:28 PM
They all did interview with the Press. Charles S was a commentator on Di's wedding and he talked about Diana. It was a less TV and Internet time, back then.... so it was more likely that they wuld do their interviews in a print journalism format... but they did dpseak to the Press about Diana.. so I can't see what the difference would be in Doria doing the same on TV about Meghan
Charles Spencer did his at length shows and interviews about Diana some years after she died. Being a commentator on Diana's wedding was a different story.
Why so avid to have Doria speak about Meghan. Some want it as an excuse to bash MEghan and her mother.
Speaking to the press is what John Spencer did. no sit down interviews with Barbara Walters.
I don't care. I think she should NOT do an interview.. but its nothing to me. But Im sure it is something to Oprah who will make money out of it..
and its just the same, speaking to the Press is not really any differnet to doing an TV interview. A TV interview would be more lucrative, hence the feeling that Orpah is looking for a scoop in befriending Doria..
A TV interview for an hour has a lot more impact that a brief press interview for obvious reasons.
Quote from: amabel on June 25, 2018, 07:39:42 AM
I don't care. I think she should NOT do an interview.. but its nothing to me. But Im sure it is something to Oprah who will make money out of it..
and its just the same, speaking to the Press is not really any differnet to doing an TV interview. A TV interview would be more lucrative, hence the feeling that Orpah is looking for a scoop in befriending Doria..
Also an interview similar to the one I believe that Oprah would do with Doria would allow them to decide the location, take control of any questions, and what images to show from Meghan's, Harry's and Doria's personal collections.
This would not be a live interview but a very carefully scripted one that would need the blessing of Harry/Meghan. :Jen:
No blessing=No interview.
Personal collections?
I doubt Doria will give one since it would be bait for her ex husband to whine to the media. He could start attacking his ex wife in the process and it would turn even more ugly
Quote from: sandy on June 25, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
A TV interview for an hour has a lot more impact that a brief press interview for obvious reasons.
Its more lucrative certainly....
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Quote from: TLLK on June 25, 2018, 03:49:46 PM
Also an interview similar to the one I believe that Oprah would do with Doria would allow them to decide the location, take control of any questions, and what images to show from Meghan's, Harry's and Doria's personal collections.
This would not be a live interview but a very carefully scripted one that would need the blessing of Harry/Meghan. :Jen:
No blessing=No interview.
well, Im sure Doiria would not say anyting to embarrass thm...but if she really wanted to do it, I don't think that they could stop her...
QuotePersonal collections?
Photos, videos, school awards, stuffed animals, school craft projects, Mickey Mouse ears, early head shots, Northwestern and Kappa Kappa Gamma spirit wear and memorabilia (loads of t-shirts). The typical items that most parents have from their child's lifetime. Somehow I don't believe that it traveled south to Rosarito Beach, B.C.
Quote from: TLLK on June 22, 2018, 02:21:40 PM
Then again she may wish to participate in one with her daughter and son-in-law's blessing. :) If that is the case, then I'd support the idea.
I hope this woman did not give Oprah an interview. As some of you said, the rebuttal brigade: Tom, those awful two kids of his....just a mess.
It seems quiet now.
Even if Doria did not mention them , and she should not, these insane, nasty pieces of trash, would still give their input.
There is no reason for Doria to give an interview. About what? Her daughter. NO.
Carole did not give an interview. Sophie?s folks did not have an interview.
I hope this lady did not do that.
Why even meet with Oprah....
Oprah summons one and one accepts.
Oprah would be the only winner here.
I love like Oprah, but Oprah goes off on the derp end. Everything in life from a death, birth, wedding, a ham sandwich has some significant meaning of life , a deeper reason, lol, with Oorah.
I can see the silly, really stupid questions.
What do you think Meghan, a woman of color , will mean for the world?
It has changed forever the face of that dynasty and country forever and Doria, how have you prepared yourself for Meggie in comparison to Dr.MLK,Jr...blah lash.
All the silly questions.
Meggies world has changed for Meggie and her descendants.
Black and White Briton?s live the same .Knife and acid attacks continue.
In the USA, Blacks getting stopped by police, even non criminal ones, have to be quiet. Comply. Keep hands on the steering wheel.There are prodecures, trainings people give each other to do to school each other for safety.
This nonsense of Oprah?s would be like the letter fromArch of Canterbury when George as born. How will this child change the world.
Ummmm, he was not the Christ child, ok.
Why would it be nonsense? OPrah is a business woman. She wants an interview with the mother of this new Princess.. who is American. She wont get one iwht Meghan, so her mother is the next best thing. It wil certainly make her a lot of money. And if Doria doesn't want to do an interview I think she should stya well away from OW
Why is her mother the next best thing? She's still not Meghan. It's like scoring an interview with Brad Pitt's father.
Oh for goodness sake, of course her mother is the next best thing. her father is erratic and not close to Meghan. Oprah is already friendly with Doria.. and she knows she wotn get Meghan. I don't lknow why you cn't see this. O is not doig this for the good of her health or because she likes Meghan, she's doing it to make money....
THe mother is not directly connected to the royals. Meghan is the granddaughter in law of the QUeen herself. She could never know the inner workings of the royal family and in any case, Meghan would not be able to "confess all" about life with the royals. I think the only sort of interview will be with Harry and they would go in for small talk or talk about a charity and so on. What Can Doria say? She won a spelling Bee and she always liked acting and this would be on for an hour? I can't see this as a big ratings hit. It is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
I don't think Doria and Oprah are that close. Doria seems to have gone on with her life and does not hang out with celebrities. She seems more comfortable doing chores around the house and getting back to her routine.
Quote from: amabel on June 30, 2018, 12:15:14 AM
Oh for goodness sake, of course her mother is the next best thing. her father is erratic and not close to Meghan. Oprah is already friendly with Doria.. and she knows she wotn get Meghan. I don't lknow why you cn't see this. O is not doig this for the good of her health or because she likes Meghan, she's doing it to make money....
Quote from: amabel on June 30, 2018, 12:03:46 AM
Why would it be nonsense? OPrah is a business woman. She wants an interview with the mother of this new Princess.. who is American. She wont get one iwht Meghan, so her mother is the next best thing. It wil certainly make her a lot of money. And if Doria doesn't want to do an interview I think she should stya well away from OW
I agree with you about Queen Oprah. Advisor to all and know it all of everything.
I like O. But, sometimes, Oprah, please be quiet. Everything is not that deep in life. A ham sandwich is just a ham sandwich.
Meggie marrying means nothing for the world, Black Britons, Black Americans, etc.
The world is spinning as it was pre and post Meggie.
I hope Oprah does not have an interview with Doria .
Quiet is classy.
Let Meggie shine.
Quote from: sandy on June 30, 2018, 12:56:38 AM
THe mother is not directly connected to the royals. Meghan is the granddaughter in law of the QUeen herself. She could never know the inner workings of the royal family and in any case, Meghan would not be able to "confess all" about life with the royals. I think the only sort of interview will be with Harry and they would go in for small talk or talk about a charity and so on. What Can Doria say? She won a spelling Bee and she always liked acting and this would be on for an hour? I can't see this as a big ratings hit. It is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
I do
as I've just said, Oprah isn't going to get Meghan. But she can get Doria.. just as she could probably get M's father.. but if she's friends with Doria, and DOria hasn't "blabbed" the way the rest of the family has, it would be a scoop to get a tasteful interview on this wonderful young woman's life, from her own mother.
Of course Meghan wont be doing an interview with Oprah. Thats what I said, so if O wants an interview, and Im sure she does, She is problaby courting Doria for one.
I doubt Doria will do this. I honestly don't see much point of Oprah interviewing her mother for TV.
Oh no. BritishBig Brother, whatever the show is called, offers her this, SHE WILL TAKE IT and will be in England for filming.
:fuming:
Can you see this ?
I can. :fuming:
The others of train wrecks and Has Beens on the show will not be nice to her as she thinks. It is survivor of the fitess on those shows. Eaten and be eaten.
I can see her, due to her health issues, trying to act all big and bad and ending up in the hospital.
The media. :windsor:
Can you see it? :fuming:
I can. :fuming:
M, DofS, half sister in the hospital here in a London an no word of the Duchess showing up to visit.
Ugh.
This Samantha *&# is trouble .
When she gets in the hospital, I can see the show sending for the half brother to come. Hello HeathrowAirport Gate 456. LoL. :windsor:
The media , with this, would love nothing more to embarrass Meggie.
This is the perfect ratings card and sure way to embarrass Meggie n Harry too.
Quote from: sandy on June 30, 2018, 07:06:30 PM
I doubt Doria will do this. I honestly don't see much point of Oprah interviewing her mother for TV.
well I can't undersand why ou cant see the point. MONEY.
Quote from: sandy on July 01, 2018, 02:14:27 PM
she does not seem the mercenary type like Sam.
Imeant that it would make money for Oprah..
Oprah does not need the money. She has plenty of it without Doria interview.
People like oprah never have enough money. YOu don't know that?
How do you know how she thinks?
Quote from: amabel on July 01, 2018, 04:34:27 PM
People like oprah never have enough money. YOu don't know that?
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While Oprah might be a multi-millionaire, she has multiple businesses beyond her OWN and other entertainment projector: Weight Watchers. She funds schools and other charities. There are people who owe their living to Oprah, so she likely feels an obligation to keep earning and expanding.
I don't think there would be not nearly as much interest in Doria as there would be in Meghan doing an interview.
However it is unlikely that Meghan will be conducting an interview with Oprah in the near future so having a chance to hear from the woman who raised her (with KP's blessing) would be an opportunity for new and old royal watchers to learn about the newest adult member of the BRF. :)
If Meghan is unlikely to conduct an interview I doubt KP would approve her mother doing one.
While I agree that it is unlikely that Meghan will have one, IMO it is possible that Harry and Meghan might be agreeable to Doria participating in one with Doria if it is a respected interviewer ie Oprah and they have the option to preview any questions and determine the topics to be discussed. :)
I don't know what Doria would say (she got good marks in school, president of her class and so on).Doria could contribute photos to a future biography of Meghan and her own insights which would reach more people and the subject of the book would be about meghan.
Which are details of her life that would likely be of interest to those royal watchers who are primarily interested in learning about Meghan. Based upon your remarks about a potential interview, I get the impression that you might not be interested in viewing it
@sandy, but that doesn't mean that others feel the same way. IMHO there would be great interest in one should Doria opt to do one with Meghan/Harry's blessing. :)
I don't speak for others but then again you don't speak for others yourself. You think it will be of great interest I don't. It's a matter of opinion. I don't think people would tune in to hear what a mother has to say. For instance, Barbara Walters did not have to fall back on interviewing parents of Monica Lewinsky she got Monica herself to be interviewed. And Bashir did not have Frances sitting there talking to him, Diana herself was there. Frances Shand Kydd got herself in hot water by doing an indiscreet interview about Diana's divorce settlement.
Sometimes outcomes of interviews are not what was expected and can provoke criticism of Doria and Meghan. I think the bashers would look through it with a microscope and dissect it and make nasty comments And it would provoke I think Tom and Tom Jr and Samantha to offer rebuttals. I think it would be unwise to do any sort of interview under those conditions.
Quote from: sandy on July 01, 2018, 04:31:00 PM
Oprah does not need the money. She has plenty of it without Doria interview.
Quote from: amabel on July 01, 2018, 04:34:27 PM
People like oprah never have enough money. YOu don't know that?
You both are correct.
Money as in personal money fir O from her network for scoring the interview, no. At this point, a few more dollars would not increase Os wealth, really.
What it would do for O is not money.
Glory, pr for OWN, personal and industry bragging rights, :teehee: , high viewership for OWN airing and owning the interview, getting the most and closest inside scoop is what Oprah would gain.
With ownership of the interview too, O has O magazine to put some of the interview in that too.
Oprah- win win.
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Quote from: sandy on July 02, 2018, 07:22:55 PM
I don't speak for others but then again you don't speak for others yourself. You think it will be of great interest I don't. It's a matter of opinion. I don't think people would tune in to hear what a mother has to say. For instance, Barbara Walters did not have to fall back on interviewing parents of Monica Lewinsky she got Monica herself to be interviewed. And Bashir did not have Frances sitting there talking to him, Diana herself was there. Frances Shand Kydd got herself in hot water by doing an indiscreet interview about Diana's divorce settlement.
Sometimes outcomes of interviews are not what was expected and can provoke criticism of Doria and Meghan. I think the bashers would look through it with a microscope and dissect it and make nasty comments And it would provoke I think Tom and Tom Jr and Samantha to offer rebuttals. I think it would be unwise to do any sort of interview under those conditions.
Quote from: sandy on July 02, 2018, 04:33:50 PM
I don't know what Doria would say (she got good marks in school, president of her class and so on).Doria could contribute photos to a future biography of Meghan and her own insights which would reach more people and the subject of the book would be about meghan.
Again , you both are right.
I do not agree with Doria doing a silly interview with Oprahs silly , nonsensical questions and comments.
I would watch.
I hope Doria does not do this and let Meggie shine.
Her mother too cashing in , money, ok, no.
Still, it would be cashing in on the limelight. Add the terrible troubled trashy half siblings rebuttal. Add the dad is strikes me as kind of lost in space....what a mess.
Meggie has true friends : Jessica Mulroney and the rest who have not spoken a word.
Doria has shown class which is in being quiet.
See today?s daily mail. I cannot cut and paste here.
Oprah is blabbering about the meaning of the wedding. Power of what is when there is love as to anything is possible.
I LIKELOVE Oprah. A hamburger is a just a hamburger. though. There is nothing mystical, profound, life changing about it. Oprah has a speech ready for anything. She mentions of what is to come from PH and M. Same thing to come from them came from PWnK, PDnPC, etc. M has her duties , life all taken care of by TPTB.
The wedding was two people in love being married.
It did not change the world, BRF, nothing.
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Quote from: Curryong on May 01, 2018, 06:45:03 PM
Omid Scobie reports that a rep at @Oprah stated that the six hour meeting between Doria Ragland and Oprah never happened.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/scobie/status/991247129875279872)
Just the Fail making up fairy tales again.
But it did happen. Oprahs camp denied it.
Could her camp be denying an interview took place or it was discussed and signed for one to come.
Oh no. They had yoga and kumquats cake, kumquats tea, kumquats . Ok. Really?
QuoteYou think it will be of great interest I don't.
Which is fine. :) Royal discussion forums are typically filled with topics that people do not necessarily agree upon. :shrug:
QuoteI do not agree with Doria doing a silly interview with Oprahs silly , nonsensical questions and comments.
I would watch.
@FanDianaFancy - What would you be interested in learning from Doria if you watched an Oprah/Doria interview? :)
Personally I enjoy learning about a public figure's past prior to them becoming well-known. What were they like as children, teens, young adults etc..before they were in the public light. :)
Quote from: TLLK on July 02, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
Which is fine. :) Royal discussion forums are typically filled with topics that people do not necessarily agree upon. :shrug:
@FanDianaFancy - What would you be interested in learning from Doria if you watched an Oprah/Doria interview? :)
Personally I enjoy learning about a public figure's past prior to them becoming well-known. What were they like as children, teens, young adults etc..before they were in the public light. :)
Curiosity.
Nothing else on tv.
I would watch.
I am interested in BRF.
I post and read and join in here.
A little past time from my real world things.
There will be books all about M for the rest of her life.
There is information out there now such as her yearbook pictures from her Catholic HS., film of her commenting on that tv commercial, former childhood friend released and got paid from DM for pic of her posing in front of BuckPalace,etc .
We have and read things of Kates youth and college years too without her mother commenting.
Some of think it would be great for Doria to do this.
Some of us think silence is best.
Why should Doria do this?
Carole did not.
Sophies mother did not.
Meggie is the same more or less as they are.
Nothing more or less interesting in a way.
All ladies are BRF and have duties of public lives and controlled, set public lives.
All ladies of BRF value and guard their personal lives as much as they can.
They are not entertainers I loved Jennifer Lopezs concert tour doc and her mother is really funny.
JLo can do whatever she wants , when and how she wants , and answers to no one. She makes all the rules for her public and private life.
Meggie does not.
Meggie is not a private person like a CEOs wife, etc. Meggie is not a trophy wife.
I have no control if she does or does not give Oprah that interview.
If KP approves, fine.
I think the negative will be worth more than any positive.
Is Doria ready for her faced to spashed in Brit and Amer tablosids after doing this interview?
Once you open the fame door, you canot close it.
I was at Walgreens today.
In Touch cover story. Kate Meghan at War.
Ok mag. It is a boy and a girl . M is expecting twins.
These are the glossy tabloids.
Then you have the non-glossy paper ones.
The Globe, The Enquirer.
For Doria , it seems right now, the media is leaving her alone . They were camped outside her house to catch her walking the dog. Going to the supermarket. Really.
Carole has not received so much of this kind of treatment.
For right now, the media seems to be done with Meggies father He is not talking . So far we are only 2 days into July, LOL.
And yes, Oprah, OMG with just stupid questions. I likelove Oprah, but she goes overboard in her Maya Angelou like speeches and words of wisdom on every topic.
A ham sandwich is just a ham sandwich.
M and H wedding and marriage and WnK , same thing.
Two couples in love got married.
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'It gave us hope, that wedding. Hope that we can all do what Mara Gay described in her New York Times opinion piece as "imagining the day when we wake up and remember who we want to be,"' she explained.
'We all want to feel as radiant, joyful, and alive as Meghan looked on her way down the aisle to meet Harry. Both of them were glowing with happiness,' she added.
'I can?t wait to see the goodness that will come from their union. Goodness that I know for sure will help change the way the world thinks about what is possible, even more than it already has.'
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Oprah discusses the 'depth of the emotion' at the royal wedding | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5910045/Oprah-discusses-depth-emotion-royal-wedding.html)
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Oprah cannot wait to see the goodness that will come from their marriage. WHAT?
LOL!!!!
Oprah knows for sure they will help change the world I which the way world thinks about what is possible.
LOL WHAT!!!!
HnM have a long , hard road ahead. They are two lovely people in love and made for each other and they got married. Good. Goodness from them will be making their marriage work for themselves and the BRF and the children MnH will have. WnK will take on causes, some fluff like BAFTA and others more serious like Centrepoint and Sentable to promote in TheUK and goodwill tours of the Commonwealth nations.
Changing the world. PH Invitus is a very serious cause and he has done well with it in being serious and genuine about it. Meggie will be at his side and support this and him as she has already done at Invictus.
Meggie also can wear specially made designer clothing and show up and look pretty at TroopingofTC and BuckGardenParty.
Not exactly Earth shattering things.
What is Oprah talking about? LOL!!
At any wedding, you feel love for the couple. Happiness and well wishes for them.
Oprah, LOL.
I like Oprah, but she gets way off into some serious , nonsensical world about everything.
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The wedding gave us hope to wake up and remember who we want to be.
Ummm, no.
Happy and radiant when getting marred, ye. Happy and radiant at being invited to someones wedding, yes.
We wake up and remember we want to be on time for work. Ok.
Oprah, LOL, OMG, she needs to be quiet sometimes or not go too deep into things that are not deep.
Thank you for you reply
@FanDianaFancy :)
Quote from: sandy on July 02, 2018, 12:51:32 PM
I don't think there would be not nearly as much interest in Doria as there would be in Meghan doing an interview.
As I'v pointed out, Meghan isn't likely to do an interview so the next best thing for O is a Doria interview..
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Quote from: sandy on July 02, 2018, 04:33:50 PM
I don't know what Doria would say (she got good marks in school, president of her class and so on).Doria could contribute photos to a future biography of Meghan and her own insights which would reach more people and the subject of the book would be about meghan.
Peiople are interestedin Meghan, I dont know why but there is obessive interest... so of course there wuodl be an auidence for her mother goign on about her shcool and college days and - whatever memroies she woudl bring up...
I disagree.
It would only be bait for Tom, Tom Jr and Sam to respond to.
QuotePeiople are interestedin Meghan, I dont know why but there is obessive interest... so of course there wuodl be an auidence for her mother goign on about her shcool and college days and - whatever memroies she woudl bring up...
I agree that there is an interest and in some cases an almost obsessive interest (positive and negative). :angeldevil1:
I believe that her entry into the BRF has brought in new royal watchers who didn't feel a connection to the Windsors before because of their nationality, racial and ethnic/socio-economic, education level etc.. :)
For those that feel that they can identify with Meghan, they're more likely to start following her. Just like there are many royal fans who became interested in one figure or a dynasty: Diana, the Tudors/Plantagenets, Princess Grace, Letizia, Mary (Denmark) etc...
Quote from: sandy on July 03, 2018, 12:56:40 PM
I disagree.
It would only be bait for Tom, Tom Jr and Sam to respond to.
Im sure Oprah wuodl not mind that..
She would if she angers Meghan. And alienates her.
Quote from: amabel on July 04, 2018, 04:58:01 PM
Im sure Oprah wuodl not mind that..
IMHO after decades in the entertainment industry, Oprah realizes that not everyone is a fan of her work on tv or film. There will be those who criticize but she's dealt with worse before. Should KP (Harry/Meghan) give their approval to Doria being interviewed by Oprah, they'll understand that there will be praise and criticism.
Quote from: TLLK on July 04, 2018, 08:47:02 PM
IMHO after decades in the entertainment industry, Oprah realizes that not everyone is a fan of her work on tv or film. There will be those who criticize but she's dealt with worse before. Should KP (Harry/Meghan) give their approval to Doria being interviewed by Oprah, they'll understand that there will be praise and criticism.
Controversy wil be good.. It will gt people watching....
Some find Meghan's family rather boring. IT is laughable that TOm just did not ask MEghan for a Father's day Card instead of crying to the media. Shameful.
Quote from: amabel on July 05, 2018, 04:50:05 PM
Controversy wil be good.. It will gt people watching....
Yes there will be those who would use it to confirm any thoughts they have on Meghan and her family, but there is always the chance that others will change their opinions. :)
Quote from: sandy on July 05, 2018, 08:53:24 PM
Some find Meghan's family rather boring. IT is laughable that TOm just did not ask MEghan for a Father's day Card instead of crying to the media. Shameful.
I find Meghan boring.. but other people love her...
If she were boring she would not attract so many comments in DM articles.
^^^Some of the continuously negative DM commenters are the usually looking for a reaction from people and media savvy Oprah would not worry about them. :happy:
I should say she'll welcome talk and controversy about a possible interview..
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Quote from: sandy on July 06, 2018, 11:56:13 PM
If she were boring she would not attract so many comments in DM articles.
Its possible to be boring to many and disliked by some.....
If she were a drab Stepford wife from he "checklist" of suitable aristos people would take as much notice.
Quote from: sandy on July 07, 2018, 11:01:59 AM
If she were a drab Stepford wife from he "checklist" of suitable aristos people would take as much notice.
well then I don't kow why you don't realise that the mere fact of her being a princess..no matter how bland she is personally is goig to excite a good deal of public interest in any interview with people in her family
Well she is not liked because some wanted "better" for Harry not a biracial AMerican divorcee. They wanted someone like Cressida who is the daughter of a commoner and a multiply married aristo woman.
Or maybe she is just not liked because people don't like her..
They don't like her because there is a sort of clique that use the same phrases over and over again about her.
^^^And some critics use the same phrases about Oprah, Trump, Charles, Obama, Diana, Camilla, May, Merkel, etc... :shrug:
IMHO this is why people should ignore the tabloid commenters and consider what the actual polls reflect about Meghan. Reputable firms like IPSO-Mori or YouGov have shown positive opinions for HM, The Cambridges, Harry and more recently Meghan in the polls taken immediately after the engagement announcement and in the weeks before the wedding.
There will always be a percentage that just doesn't like someone, however there are those who have yet to make up their minds or are very positive toward someone. Don't bother to antagonize them and remember that you can ignore them. IMO it is wiser to focus on those who are undecided rather than trying to win a losing battle with the hardened critics. :)
Why does everybody need to like her? Not everyone will like her. If there are people who are wildly prejudiced about her they're not going to change their minds.. and it doesn't really matter. what matters is that she has a reasonable degree of popularity, and that she does a good job as a royal.. I think it is early days yet and there is something fakey about her that makes me not take ot her.. I may change my mind...but I don't know... Anyway, whether I do or not, its a given that load of people will be perfectly indifferent ot her and many will dislike her outright.
The FAKE word seems to be used by a clique. All the Meghan bashers use that word. I don't know how you know she is "fake" when you never even met her. Royals DO put up appearances so maybe they are ALL fake.
How do you know, say that Diana was sincere, if you never met her? Or Meghan? We make decisions on people we never meet, due to what we read of them or see on TV. I've never met many people -both historical characters and people who are alive today but I have an opinion on them. I get a fake vibe from Megan as I do form many actresses.. but I may be wrong. I am waiting for her to get into royal life and see how she works out...
So I can ask you the same question. How do you know meghan is fake if you have not met her. I think some of the decisions come from peer pressure. The Meghan bashers are like a clique of teenage girls who keep using the same word "fake" or phony. Like a sort of mean girls clique. Actresses play parts. They have to "act" out a part. I think actors and actresses who have this as their career would resent being called "fake". You can say the same about other professions like lawyers and real estate agents. I think some just don't like Meghan because they don't like Americans and don't think they are "good enough." It is odd that she is condemned for being a divorcee when Princess Anne became a divorcee and Camilla was a divorced person when she married Prince CHarles who was also a divorced person.
Quotewhat matters is that she has a reasonable degree of popularity, and that she does a good job as a royal.
I would say that based upon the YouGov and IPSO-Mori polls that featured questions regarding people's favorable opinions on the Sussex engagement and Meghan's entrance into the BRF that she has a "reasonable degree of popularity." :) :thumbsup:
Now it's only been about six weeks since their wedding, but IMO she's behaved in the appropriate manner at the Garden Party, Trooping the Color, Ascot, and at the engagements that she's participated in with QEII and Harry. She still has time to demonstrate that she does "a good job as a royal." :)
I wasn't overly impressed by either of them at the wedding.. the giggling, the holding hands like they were teenagers.. ( I wont go into the dress as its her dress choice.. )..
I expect she will do an adequate job, but I can't help feeling that "fakey" vibe from her. But unless she really goofs up, at least for now, she will be OK with the public who take an interest in royal things.. Ive never been greatly impressed by kate either, but I think she too has been accepted by the Public as a reasonably good royal..
I see the DM posters calling her fake without perhaps knowing why. Trashing for the sake of trashing. They criticize and scrutinize and will always detest her.
So? Why do you think that she's going to have everyone in the world loving her? There are always going to be people who don't give a damn about her or who actively dislike her...
Quote from: sandy on July 09, 2018, 01:19:50 PM
I see the DM posters calling her fake without perhaps knowing why. Trashing for the sake of trashing. They criticize and scrutinize and will always detest her.
Again that is what tabloid commenters frequently do with all sorts of public figures. :shrug: Meghan is just one of many people who have to deal with these types of responses. Most members of the BRF have people who will "criticize and scrutinize and will always detest her/him" Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, Harry,etc... face this every time they have an engagement or an appearance. For goodness sake even the Cambridge kids have their devoted critics and fans! There are those who really enjoy getting fans and critics stirred up.
I don't understand why so much importance is placed upon the comments from tabloid sites. :shrug:
Quote from: TLLK on July 09, 2018, 04:53:24 PM
Again that is what tabloid commenters frequently do with all sorts of public figures. :shrug: Meghan is just one of many people who have to deal with these types of responses. Most members of the BRF have people who will "criticize and scrutinize and will always detest her/him" Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, Harry,etc... face this every time they have an engagement or an appearance. For goodness sake even the Cambridge kids have their devoted critics and fans! There are those who really enjoy getting fans and critics stirred up.
I don't understand why so much importance is placed upon the comments from tabloid sites. :shrug:
well considering the constant criticism of Kate, who is pretty darn bland, I don't see why Meghan should be immune from critical comment whether fair or unfair
Meghan Markle's mother starts job showing students to make jewellery (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/meghan-markles-mother-starts-job-showing-students-to-make-jewellery/ar-BB18tTbD?ocid=ientp)
QuoteHer classes show students how to design bohemian 'floating' pearl necklaces, create multi-strand bracelets and 'linked necklaces' made of wire.
The lessons at Santa Monica College, which are currently on hold due to the pandemic, cost between ?29 and ?33 and are held at the campus nine miles from her home.
The college was the scene of a mass shooting in 2013 that left five dead.
Meghan, who has gushed about her mother having a 'free spirit', recently moved into an ?11 million mansion with Prince Harry and 15‑month-old Archie 90 miles away in Santa Barbara.
Her mother's biography on the college website states: 'Doria Ragland is a local artist who has been designing jewellery and clothing for over ten years.
With nearly all California community colleges offering online classes this fall semester, Doria can easily teach via Zoom. :thumbsup:
Meghan Markle's mother Doria Ragland, 66, unveils floral tattoo as she walks her dogs | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11177457/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-Ragland-66-unveils-floral-tattoo-walks-dogs.html)
The Duchess of Sussex shares that she took a DNA test and discovered that her ancestry is 47% Nigerian. Ancestry that she inherited from her mother Doria.
Meghan Markle reveals she's 43% Nigerian after doing a genealogy test | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11352627/Meghan-Markle-reveals-shes-43-Nigerian-doing-genealogy-test.html)
So, The Niger Valley hmm? Interesting! I think those genealogy tests are fascinating.
Meghan Markle's mother Doria Ragland spotted amid Prince Harry split rumours - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/meghan-markles-mother-doria-ragland-30523735)
Doria visited an art exhibition. I love the red jumpsuit.
Meghan Markle's Mom Doria Ragland Steps Out at Beverly Hills Art Show (https://people.com/meghan-markle-mom-doria-ragland-steps-out-beverly-hills-art-show-7564059)
QuoteMeghan Markle's mom, Doria Ragland, had an artsy outing in California.
Doria, 66, was spotted in Beverly Hills on Thursday attending an exhibition by artist Honor Titus followed by a dinner at a local restaurant.
Funny the pap walks. That backgrid guy who said he's close friend of the Sussexes also taking pictures of Doria.
Meghan's Kardashian connection! Her mother Doria Ragland poses with Kris Jenner and Kim at star-studded charity event that also hosted Amazon boss (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12450289/Meghans-Kardashian-connection-Duchesss-mother-Doria-Ragland-poses-arm-arm-Kris-Jenner-SKIMS-founder-Kim-star-studded-charity-event-LA.html)
QuoteMeghan Markle's mother Doria Ragland teamed up with Hollywood's most famous power-mother Kris Jenner, and her A-list daughter Kim Kardashian, as they posed up a storm at a glitzy event last night.
The mother-of-one, who is grandmother to Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, donned a vibrant, paisley shift dress in stunning yellow, orange and pink shades to attend the This Is About Humanity's fifth annual soiree in Los Angeles.
Meanwhile SKIMS founder Kim, 42, debuted a new hairstyle as she sported bangs and a ponytail as she dressed all in black, while 'Momager' Kris, 67, was chic in a white suit.
As the trio posed for photos, they embraced and beamed, looking very pally as they cosied up to each other.
:bday: Happy 67th Birthday to Doria.
She attended the Beyonce concert in Los Angeles with her daughter and son-in-law.
Meghan Markle throws shapes at first night of Beyonce's Renaissance world tour in California but Harry looks less impressed as he gazes at his phone (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12472843/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Beyonce-Renaissance-world-tour-California.html)
Happy birthday, it was very likely a birthday present to take her to Beyonce's concert.
Harry looks bored, probably not his type of music.
Talking about shady characters, hanging out with royalty to end up moving on to the Kardashians isn't making a leap and stride improvement.
Making and exploiting a tape is not exactly to be proud off. The old version of today's Only Fans. :laugh:
Oh that is for Darn sure...I think most people by now know all about the K Klan and have seen all body parts, so is that what is next for the Sussex's...and hopefully they will not follow the K Klan path to fame.
Last night Neil Sean provided an interesting story about Doria Ragland when she went to the UK for her daughter's wedding alone.
His source is Catherine's ex PA (there were 3 to date ex PA's, for context, Omid claimed 6 ex PA in 6 years, all the RR's say 3 in 6 years)
Ex PA: Doria was given red carpet treatment when landing England. William and Catherine invited Doria three (3) times to entertain Meghan's mom - taking into account Meghan was very busy with her own wedding prep. The three time Doria accepted the invitation, the three times at the 11th hour a spokesperson for the Sussexes would call the then Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's household to cancel. The fourth invitation was then prepared, Doria showed up with Harry and Meghan - Doria during the afternoon tea asked for the bathroom, she was on her way - Meghan stood up and went to the bathroom with her mom. This is very likely a USA social custom, not much a UK custom. This latter sentence is because Neil Sean found it weird, the ex PA found it weird, perhaps because the tea party was in the actual apartment of the then DOC's in KP rather than downstairs in the tourist area where the public bathrooms have multiple handwash/loos. Tied to the alleged story of Doria accepting three times to be entertained - but at the 11th not allowed/cancelled by Meghan (and Harry). Meghan's family relations are truly a mystery. Neil Sean called this a 'red flag', but...
...I think to be fair Meghan does not feel confident about both parents. Compare this allleged story with Mike and Carole accepting pre wedding invitations from the Queen and PP for tea, to Balmoralx2. No Catherine in sight to control parent talking.
Note: Also for the 2nd context, Omid claims Catherine (and William) are cold, mean, etc. The above if true, sounds like a BIL and SIL doing their best to welcome a alone with no partner mother of the bride.
Strange that this Doria story is coming out now, whether it REALLY IS one of Kate?s ex PA?s telling it or not. Why not two, three years ago when the Sussexes were settling with Archie in California?
Could it possibly be because this naming of Kate as one of the two royals present at the conversation about race and so the Palace PR decided that this would be a nice story to tell about the then Cambridges and Meghan?s mother, a woman of colour? Oh surely not! Yes it could! Sometimes Palace PR is so obvious it?s laughable!
And one tea party at Balmoral with the Queen and PP does not equal a woman coming from another country to try to help her daughter and being left alone by the Cambridges, which I believe she was. (Meghan went to tea herself with Harry and the Queen as well.) Harry would have been happy to take Doria over to their apartment even if Meghan was away for hours. This very new story just does not meld in with anything we have been told about how the Cambridges clashed and ignored Meghan right from the beginning. Really wanted to welcome Doria but not her ?opinionated? daughter? Really? Lol!
The Cambridges ignoring Harry and Meghan and her mother does however fit in perfectly with the stories from Harry in Spare of hearing George?s pram wheels going past Nott Cott when he was alone there and Kate never popping in with her baby. It melds in with all the stories of Kate remaining in the garden when Harry first took Meghan over to meet his brother and sister in law leaving William to do the meeting and greeting,, and all the stuff about them pursing their lips up about Meghan?s ripped jeans and lip gloss use and her being ?opinionated? in Will?s eyes.
And all the stories of the Cambridges never joining in any parties at Nott Cott with the newly weds, never going to Oxfordshire to visit them, never spontaneously visiting Meghan when she was stuck at KC with her baby and no mother. Weren?t so anxious to see Doria then when she came over were they? Why not take the opportunity the opportunity during those times when Doria WAS there at FC?
Or bothering to try to be nice to a woman who had joined the family but was away from her country, US mother and US friends. Yet we are expected to believe that the Cambridges were SO welcoming they really really wanted to meet this woman of colour attached to a woman they already quite disliked. Please, give me a break!!
You are referring to events after the wedding, Neil Sean is referring to three days before the wedding. If that wasn't clear enough.
The only event (s) before the wedding was
February 2017
Laney Gossip story told by her friend Meghan in reference to she didn't invite me to shop together - she knew Catherine was going to John Lewis. Catherine's RPO's also knew that someone ehem had called in the paparazzi in advance, I wonder who?
February 2018
Fab four only/last meeting televised
After the May 2018 wedding many things happened from Meghan to almost everyone, from royals to staff, so a majority will have a hard time believing her. It is not coincidental that even before her May 2018 wedding she (and Harry) were already making commercial plans. They never intended to stay. When you have senior staff with 25 plus years of experience telling Valentine Low/Tom Bower that they did everything possible to help her, she didn't want the help...and it looked like she was doing it purposely.
In reference to your belief that Catherine is a racist?! Each to it's own.
I am not calling Kate a racist and have never done so. The report that all this fuss over the End Game allegation is that she was present when the conversation about Archie?s possible skin colour occurred.
And my post pointed out that never at any time, when Meghan was dating Harry, when she was engaged, when she was about to be married, was there any interest from William and Kate in becoming friends with William?s girlfriend/future bride, so why is Sean inferring that this couple were so keen to meet her mother? They could have strolled over to Nott Cott to meet her if they were that interested. However, it?s clear that in spite of Sean?s allegations, that they were not. Neither of them did tried to become close and welcoming to Meghan for Harry?s sake, before the 2018 wedding, just before it, during it or afterwards. And that was true also of Doria.
This is a piece of KP propaganda to try and make out that Kate and her husband were kind and welcoming to Doria, a woman of colour, is because they are possibly afraid that the reports of the conversation about Archie?s skin colour being rehashed will not play well in some parts of the Commonwealth, Africa, West Indies etc. So KP decided that a nice little fictional story about Kate and William really really wanting to meet Doria (whether before the wedding or afterwards doesn?t matter) might help. Well it doesn?t wash. At all!
Where was this PA woman of Kate?s at the time of the tea party when Doria wanted to use the bathroom? Sitting there on the table with the scones was she, lol. Must have been, otherwise how would she know that Meghan accompanied her mother to the appointment toilets. Or did Kate blab to her about it all!
There was very much interest - after reading bits and pieces of 'interest' from the Queen, Charles, William and Catherine - in that order, one M was in a rush to be friends, the other Catherine was cautious. The latter had roughly 8 years when a girlfriend being betrayed by in this order people/media/hackers - the most 150 times, and the ''real'' existence of paparazzi because instant picture taking and commenting social media did not exist. How she held it is a miracle of love. M always finds in every compare and contrast story - my victimhood is bigger than yours. Spotify me me me is crystal clear IF you have not noticed it in the Oprah comparing her race baiting vs Catherine's 8 year of what did Meghan tone say ''Waity Kaity''. Whatever she read about Catherine, posted in her Tig, what H told her about the paps, the hacking, etc about his SIL, she has managed to make out of it ''my problem is bigger than hers''. Many noted, but also many still hadn't noted it in Oprah.
I can't and will not blame it all on M, H is the one that mostly has to take it. He was the royal. Again, same, reading bits and pieces of quotes 'I don't need help, I have Harry', 'What Meghan wants Meghan gets', etc.
Too much soap and drama with those two, that repeating what has happened is boring (already). Everyone at this point should have the memory of it all.
Lastly, IMO Doria's influence in whatever time she had 'raising' her daughter, was to be a race baiting racist. Both women are the same. At this point, the then Prince of Wales, walking M down the aisle, walking and standing beside D all this publicly making sure the latter is okay, pfffff. That is why the majority of the public are enraged with basically O, H, M and D too.
:goodpost:, Thank You!
To think Charles walked Meghan half way down the aisle and made sure Dora was well taken care of when she was here for the wedding...they the Sussex's have no apprciation for what they have been given in life.
Why are they so quiet, Harry and Meghan and Omid and Dora, so quiet it is scary! Wonder what they are cooking up to do next to the royal family, oh another book, this time Meghan's.
Whatever they are cooking 'next' is to create more havoc to Harry's family even if/when it backfires. At this point it is clear they don't care about their image or reputation, narcissists fall - everyone has to fall with the narcissist. The BRF have to keep on grey rocking the couple, it will come a time when it is the real game over to the duo and their 'extended' conspirators.
The Monarch - HMQEII
- a first time ever girlfriend to attend Sandringham Christmas
- a first time ever wife to the then 6th in the Line of Succession (LOS to the British throne) train ride all day duty one month after marriage with the Monarch.
- a first time ever approval of the 6th in LOS to have his own office moved and paid from the then POW's control to HMQEII control with the perk of allowing the couple to choose their own staff with no 'limit'. IOW the then HMQEII allowed the couple to pick their own staff, have offices at Buckingham Palace, allowed their head staff Sara Latham to have a superior pay to the then 2nd in LOS Duke and Duchess of Cambridge 'head staff'. Sara's pay was equal to that of the Monarch's head staff.
All because the couple trapped the Monarchy with Meghan's ''race''. The duo abused the Constitutional Monarchy, let alone the family.
They keep on using the race card.
After saying this, everything always has an end. The grey rock method (long game of the BRF) is effective. They will let the duo and their accomplices hang themselves.