Re: Queen Victoria, Prince Albert and Family Discussion

[Curryong]

Some suggestions about the origins of the names of Victoria and Albert?s children.

Victoria Adelaide Mary Louisa--Victoria, obvious; Adelaide, for Queen Adelaide (consort of William IV and very close to QV); Mary (for the Duchess of Gloucester, perhaps?); Louisa--Prince Albert's mother.

Albert Edward--Albert, obvious; Edward, after QV's father

Alice Maud Mary--Alice and Maud--old English names Alice was the favourite girls name of Lord Melbourne, V?s first Prime Minister.; Mary--see above

Alfred Ernest Albert--Alfred, old English name, Alfred the Great; Ernest, after PA's father and brother; Albert.

Helena Augusta Victoria--Helena, after the Duchess d? Orleans, her godmother, Augusta after one of QV's aunts perhaps;

Louise Caroline Alberta--Louise, after PA's mother; Alberta, after PA

Arthur William Patrick Albert--Arthur, old English name and after the Duke of Wellington; William after William IV perhaps; Patrick, most likely for Ireland

Leopold George Duncan Albert--Leopold, after King Leopold of the Belgians; George, long connection to England and Hannover; Duncan for Scotland, Macbeth.

Beatrice Mary Victoria Feodore--Beatrice, some suggested historic origin or Dante reference; Feodore for QV's half-sister.

Victoria to King Leopold referencing Beatrice?s name ? "She is to be called Beatrice, a fine old name, borne by three of the Plantaganet princesses, and her other names will be Mary (after poor Aunt Mary), Victoria (after mamma and Vicky, who with Fritz Wilhelm (her husband)  are to be the sponsors, and Feodore (the Queen's half sister)."

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria sent a bust of her husband Prince Albert to her great-grandson Prince Albert Frederick of York as a christening present.

[LouisFerdinand]

Some of Queen Victoria's illustrations of Princess Helena are included.   
The Life of Princess Helena of the United Kingdom - YouTube

[LouisFerdinand]

The Daughters-in-Law of Queen Victoria   
The Daughters-In-Law of Queen Victoria - YouTube   

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[LouisFerdinand]

Christmas with the Queen   
Queen Victoria selecting toys for her grandchildren in 1898   
Mary Evans Her Majesty selecting toys for her grandchildren 12695120   

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[LouisFerdinand]

On November 1, 1858 Queen Victoria gave a proclamation which declared that India was a British dominion. This declaration was ratified by the government of India Act in Parliament.   

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[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria's Faberge Christmas gift from the Romanovs   
Queen Victoria?s Faberg? Christmas Gift from the Romanovs - YouTube   

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[LouisFerdinand]

Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and King George V at Holyrood Palace 1911   
Explore the Royal Collection Online

[LouisFerdinand]

In November 1840, shortly after the birth of the Princess Royal, Prince Albert   
was given a key to Queen Victoria's boxes of government papers.     
Did the fact that he had the key displease some government officials?

[Curryong]

In November 1840, shortly after the birth of the Princess Royal, Prince Albert   
was given a key to Queen Victoria's boxes of government papers.     
Did the fact that he had the key displease some government officials?

The reaction was probably a bit mixed. Albert was not particularly popular especially among Whigs, the party of Lord Melbourne, Victoria?s first PM. Albert was Germanic and very serious-minded. On the other hand, the Queen was a female and therefore the weaker vessel in comparison to males.

Albert was supporting his wife after their baby?s birth and would be able to advise her. Tories like Sir Robert Peel thought a lot of Prince Albert and felt he had a good grasp of issues of the day. So, on the whole, there weren?t wholesale objections.

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria planted a tree at Waddesdon Manor, Buckinghamshire on May 14, 1890   
Mary Evans Queen Victoria planting a tree at Waddesdon Manor, 1890 10691469

[LouisFerdinand]

Did Queen Victoria resent her daughter-in-law Princess Alexandra's Danish loyalties?

[Curryong]

Did Queen Victoria resent her daughter-in-law Princess Alexandra's Danish loyalties?

I don?t think she regarded a Danish family connection with much favour anyway, as she would have preferred that her eldest son Bertie had married a German. However Alexandra?s beauty won the day. Impossible that Bertie would have agreed to marry someone plain!

I think she did rather resent it when Alexandra?s views clashed with her (and the BRF?s) consistent support of Prussia. Her eldest daughter Vicky was of course married to the Prussian Crown Prince Friedrich.

That led no doubt to some awkward moments on family occasions after Schleswig/ Holstein was invaded by Prussia soon after Alexandra?s wedding to the Prince of Wales (Bertie). Danes regarded the Duchies as theirs. Victoria was always admiring of the simplicity and closeness of the DRF, however.

[LouisFerdinand]

On February 9, 1841 the ice cracked.   
Prince Albert fell into the lake at Buckingham Palace.   
Skate Guard: The Royal Skating Mishap That Could Have Changed History     

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[Curryong]

The lake doesn?t appear to have been that deep and Albert swam to the bank anyway, where Victoria lent a hand. And of course Albert caught a cold from the mishap. That man?s immune system seems to have been fragile at best!

Nevertheless, it?s true that if Albert?s subsequent cold had turned to pneumonia, in those days a killer, history might well have been changed. Left a widow of 22 with a baby daughter, Victoria would have entered into a period of protracted mourning. Would she have married again in another six or seven years? I do think it likely in spite of her overpowering feelings for Albert.

She would probably have been advised to do so given the parlous nature of the succession. No-one wanted another Prss Charlotte situation to happen with Vicky (who of course would not have married Fritz and become Kaiserin of Germany in that situation) and so some other Prince would have become Consort, almost certainly from Germany, and another family would have been born. Alternate history is a fascinating subject!

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria unveiled a statue of Prince Albert.   
She knighted John Morris, the Mayor of Wolverhampton on November 30, 1866.     
Mary Evans VICTORIA KNIGHTS MORRIS 10103304

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria was the only child of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent.   
However did she have siblings?   
The Siblings of Queen Victoria - YouTube

[Curryong]

Queen Victoria was the only child of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent.   
However did she have siblings?   
The Siblings of Queen Victoria - YouTube

Victoria had half-siblings from her mother?s unhappy first marriage. Victoire had two children by that husband, Emich Charles Prince of Leiningen, a daughter Feodora, whom Victoria was close to until her half-sister?s death in 1872, and son Karl Friedrich, who lived in London with his mother and stepfather and family for a while, then, as he was heir to his dead father?s estate, went back to Germany to resume his education. He was the third Prince of Leiningen as his half brother from his father?s first marriage had died in childhood.. These facts are very well known.

[LouisFerdinand]

John Campbell, Duke of Argyll was the husband of Queen Victoria's daughter Princess Louise.
   John Campbell, 9th Duke of Argyll (1845-1914) - YouTube

[Curryong]

Queen Victoria the *** addict? Queen Victoria, for example, was a great fan of Vin Mariani (along with many other 19th century notables and including two Popes). This product, banned in 1914, was a fortified wine made with extracts of coca leaf. It was said to be ?most uplifting?, mainly because of the ***.

The Illustrious (& Outrageous) History of Vin Mariani - Proofdrinks

[LouisFerdinand]

Charles Louis Muller painted a beautiful portrait ofQueen Victoria in 1856.   
muller, charles louis - Queen Victoria, 1856 | Charles Louis? | Flickr

[LouisFerdinand]

Was Queen Victoria partly responsible for the downfall of the Romanov Dynasty?
  Queen Victoria Was Responsible For The Downfall Of The Romanov Dynasty. Here's Why - YouTube

[Amabel2]

what is this nonsense.  How could Victoria be responsible for anything that happened in Russia

[Curryong]

 Vitoria was no admirer of the Romanov dynasty partly because she regarding the country as half civilised. Queen Victoria didn?t want any of her granddaughters to marry into the Romanov dynasty. She was terribly disappointed when Ella married the Grand Duke Serge and said, with regard to Alix several times, that she trembled at the dangers of that shaky throne.Although she didn?t mind Nicky or Alexander II personally, I hardly think any actions she took would have made any difference.

[LouisFerdinand]

In Victoria A Life A. N. Wilson wrote:   
The Queen's loathing of hot rooms, and her indifference to the cold, became unrestrained during 
her years of widowhood, and those who visited Balmoral in particular, were in danger of feeling cold.
   
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