Duke and Duchess of Sussex - Return Visits to the UK

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FanDianaFancy

Quote from: sandy on March 20, 2020, 05:20:23 PM
Harry is very interested in helping veterans and "wounded warriors" you make the assumption he will just talk about his mother. He can talk about various causes and the veterans cause is close to his heart.

Ok. As long as helps, however, Veterans of The UK, ok,  Stay in his lane. Over there.
The USA has enough with trying to right things for our Veterans and I just don?t see him as anyone effective or knowledgeable. He is just a prince.
Again, to speak , give speeches to whom for what about Veterans. That is not a money maker. Veterans groups need money. They do need speakers and speech?s.  Ask Hanoi Jane how she is still, lol. Maybe in The UK and Canada it is different. Ok. Fine.


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sandy

There are many people who "don't know everything about veterans" who donate or pledge money and support vets. It just takes compassion.  Harry did serve in the military. He could also visit veterans hospitals which I believe he already has done.

FanDianaFancy

I give to the Veterans Assocs. I know nothing much really. Just an average knowledge . I have family, friends in the military. I believe in The U.S. Armed Forces. I think it is a great career.


Visiting hospitals will not earn him money. Being compassionate will not earn him money.


Of course, he is worth with his wife between 30-40 million.
Veterans associations around here need some money. Wounded Warriors. That is one legit Veterans group.

Maybe it is different in The UK and Canada.

QueenAlex

of course these thins wont earn him money.  Hopefully he will continue to do charity work but his prmariy    concern must be to earn a living so that he eases the burden on the tax payer and the DOC or his father...

FanDianaFancy

Coronavirus: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle offer advice | Daily Mail Online

MnH suggest becoming a Counsellor during these next 2 weeks.

Lol.  Too funny. Very childlike in thought. Silly. This is what I meant. They need to just be quiet celebrities. Enjoy their 30-40 million. Their mansion and staffs.

That is crazy.

So, how will people  become a Counsellor, state certified in a particular counseling  area, do field work, internships, lol. How can you get a Masters Degree in 2 weeks or your PhD .lol. Take your state tests plus university tests and write your thesis. Synergy with your cohorts.
I know some people who are counselors . It took years, years, years, lol. It takes years to become an elementary, middle school, high school   counsellor.

Oh. MnH mean a Counsellor to speak on the phone to people in need about their mental health as in counselors like that.
You have to go to community colleges at least I would guess for the training.  Background checks on your mental, emotional hrkath. Working under trained ones at the call organizations.


Ok. Enough. Very funny suggestion though. It is sweet. Kind. Very kind in thought like a little child.

Meanwhile WillKate met today to show unity, attention, encouragement to real counsellors or medical professionals  at an organization that does this.
Kate Middleton and Prince William visit London Ambulance Service 111 call centre | Daily Mail Online
Ok.


MH need to quit. Be celebrities. I think they goofed in leaving their safe, rich, cocoon in BRF.

QueenAlex

Too late now to get back in.  No travelling perhaps for 6 months...

sandy

Quote from: FanDianaFancy on March 20, 2020, 07:39:06 PM
Coronavirus: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle offer advice | Daily Mail Online

MnH suggest becoming a Counsellor during these next 2 weeks.

Lol.  Too funny. Very childlike in thought. Silly. This is what I meant. They need to just be quiet celebrities. Enjoy their 30-40 million. Their mansion and staffs.

That is crazy.

So, how will people  become a Counsellor, state certified in a particular counseling  area, do field work, internships, lol. How can you get a Masters Degree in 2 weeks or your PhD .lol. Take your state tests plus university tests and write your thesis. Synergy with your cohorts.
I know some people who are counselors . It took years, years, years, lol. It takes years to become an elementary, middle school, high school   counsellor.

Oh. MnH mean a Counsellor to speak on the phone to people in need about their mental health as in counselors like that.
You have to go to community colleges at least I would guess for the training.  Background checks on your mental, emotional hrkath. Working under trained ones at the call organizations.


Ok. Enough. Very funny suggestion though. It is sweet. Kind. Very kind in thought like a little child.

Meanwhile WillKate met today to show unity, attention, encouragement to real counsellors or medical professionals  at an organization that does this.
Kate Middleton and Prince William visit London Ambulance Service 111 call centre | Daily Mail Online
Ok.


MH need to quit. Be celebrities. I think they goofed in leaving their safe, rich, cocoon in BRF.

Heaven help Meghan and Harry had they visited that Call Centre. They would be accused of "spreading the virus" and why did not they use Instragram.

The Cambridges are getting sniped at for going to the Call Center amidst the adoring DM posts.

I think what the Cambridges did was foolhardy considering the spread and they have young children at home!

TLLK

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sandy

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Quote from: FanDianaFancy on March 20, 2020, 07:39:06 PM
Coronavirus: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle offer advice | Daily Mail Online

MnH suggest becoming a Counsellor during these next 2 weeks.

Lol.  Too funny. Very childlike in thought. Silly. This is what I meant. They need to just be quiet celebrities. Enjoy their 30-40 million. Their mansion and staffs.

That is crazy.

So, how will people  become a Counsellor, state certified in a particular counseling  area, do field work, internships, lol. How can you get a Masters Degree in 2 weeks or your PhD .lol. Take your state tests plus university tests and write your thesis. Synergy with your cohorts.
I know some people who are counselors . It took years, years, years, lol. It takes years to become an elementary, middle school, high school   counsellor.

Oh. MnH mean a Counsellor to speak on the phone to people in need about their mental health as in counselors like that.
You have to go to community colleges at least I would guess for the training.  Background checks on your mental, emotional hrkath. Working under trained ones at the call organizations.


Ok. Enough. Very funny suggestion though. It is sweet. Kind. Very kind in thought like a little child.

Meanwhile WillKate met today to show unity, attention, encouragement to real counsellors or medical professionals  at an organization that does this.
Kate Middleton and Prince William visit London Ambulance Service 111 call centre | Daily Mail Online
Ok.


MH need to quit. Be celebrities. I think they goofed in leaving their safe, rich, cocoon in BRF.

It's their business whether they quit or not. And they are moving on. Maybe the cocoon got uncomfortable. If so I don't blame them for moving on.

Trudie

#234
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on March 20, 2020, 06:51:02 PM
Ok. As long as helps, however, Veterans of The UK, ok,  Stay in his lane. Over there.
The USA has enough with trying to right things for our Veterans and I just don?t see him as anyone effective or knowledgeable. He is just a prince.
Again, to speak , give speeches to whom for what about Veterans. That is not a money maker. Veterans groups need money. They do need speakers and speech?s.  Ask Hanoi Jane how she is still, lol. Maybe in The UK and Canada it is different. Ok. Fine.

This is the most insulting post to Harry yet. Harry is a Prince yes but he is also a veteran and served on the front lines. The experiences of UK and American soldiers are roughly the same and personally he has more knowledge about this than the average person. Without speakers and speeches how do you think the ill informed such as yourself educate themselves as for bringing in Hanoi Jane She is the biggest most ill informed traitor. My cousins served combat Vietnam and the struggles they dealt with after the war you couldn't even begin to know. I saw first hand the PTSD that tormented my cousin and the toll it took on his family. Unless you have seen it or lived it you need to stop mocking Harry for his desire to help.



PrincessOfPeace

We need to keep Harrys service in perspective. People use that he served on front lines as a get out of jail free card.

Front lines doesnt translate to combat. The tabloids only confuse the issue.

For most people, war zone, combat, and front lines all mean the same thing but they don?t.

Harry received an Afghanistan service medal just like everyone else, from a cook, to a mechanic, to an infantryman. Doesnt diminish his contribution.

Sorry to mods for getting of topic.


Curryong

Harry didn't serve as a cook or mechanic. He was part of the crew of an Apache helicopter, a vehicle he had passed exams to fly. He was a co-pilot and took part in active operations, daily, for months on his second tour. He went after the enemy in a helicopter and got 'kills' against them. Harry later spoke about this, and was threatened by adherants to their cause because of it. That is not the same as being a cook back in camp, necessary though cooks are.

Bios on Harry go into detail about his service in Afghanistan and include the names of individuals who served with him on both tours. They speak about that service and some of the forts where he and his men were on patrol and came under fire from rockets are also named in these books. He has a medal for his service with bar, which signifies two tours.

Trudie

Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on March 20, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
We need to keep Harrys service in perspective. People use that he served on front lines as a get out of jail free card.

Front lines doesnt translate to combat. The tabloids only confuse the issue.

For most people, war zone, combat, and front lines all mean the same thing but they don?t.

Harry received an Afghanistan service medal just like everyone else, from a cook, to a mechanic, to an infantryman. Doesnt diminish his contribution.

Sorry to mods for getting of topic.



NO one is using Harry's service record as a get out of jail free card. Tell me how are you qualified to know just what the difference is between front lines, combat and front lines are you serving?. Harry flew Apaches that is frontline and combat. Harry saw more devastation than you will ever see. I myself have never served however, I have as I have said seen the after effects physically and mentally of my cousins one who had been MIA for a time who thankfully returned. Harry should be given the respect and credit for trying to ease the burdensome after effects on the soldiers and families I for one would rather pay to see Harry speak than Bill Clinton who I have personally met who has nothing to offer than what he did with Monica Lewisky and His wife to defends him simply because she needs him as insurance.



PrincessOfPeace

Harrys helicopter duty in Afghanistan was to escort air ambulances. A very noble job that doesnt need embellishments.

British regiments have a very extensive history regarding combat.

No regiment Harry served in received anything above the standard campaign medal that everyone was granted.

Again doesn?t take away from him going to Afghanistan but it?s not like he was decorated for valour. 

I point it out because Harry would be the first to admit it. It takes away from soldiers who were singled out for their actions.

Curryong

Andrew served in helicopters throughout the Falklands War. Like 98% of his fellow servicemen he did not receive the DSO or VC or any 'above' award. Prince Philip served throughout WW2 on RN vessels and received several medals but nothing out of the ordinary.

Does that diminish their record or Harry's? No, because all three men served in combat zones at occupations that put their lives on the line, as did the men who served next to them. The truth is that no member of the BRF (or for that matter any other Royal) has ever received the VC or its equivalent.

However Harry, Andrew and Philip did serve in war zones and they did put their lives in danger when they did so. And that puts them in a different place to other royals who didn't do the same. And no diminishing of their roles or heightening of others' roles in the armed services changes that fact. Sorry, but it doesn't.

TLLK

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Prince Harry's Military Service

FanDianaFancy

Quote from: Trudie on March 20, 2020, 08:27:35 PM
This is the most insulting post to Harry yet. Harry is a Prince yes but he is also a veteran and served on the front lines. The experiences of UK and American soldiers are roughly the same and personally he has more knowledge about this than the average person. Without speakers and speeches how do you think the ill informed such as yourself educate themselves as for bringing in Hanoi Jane She is the biggest most ill informed traitor. My cousins served combat Vietnam and the struggles they dealt with after the war you couldn't even begin to know. I saw first hand the PTSD that tormented my cousin and the toll it took on his family. Unless you have seen it or lived it you need to stop mocking Harry for his desire to help.

Yep. Had two cousins in a Vietnam. One had times  all his life, severe depression..
He lived  a full life . A good life. Tell me something I feel not about that.


Veterans hospitals here in States have been understaffed, under supplied since I was a child.
  Hanoi Jane (Fonda )just needed then to be a cute, quite, rich, Hollyweird brat.


I am not insulting Prince Henry.
Agsin, I have said over and over, he did real duty. That is a fact and I like sticking to facts even if I don?t like him.
I did say, well, since don?t know The UK.
He can speak there all wishes on Veterans affairs. Here in The USA, we don?t need a Prince getting into American Veterans affairs as part of his new job. It is a hotbed issue as it is.



TLLK

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