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Title: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on November 12, 2021, 12:34:59 AM
Welcome to Part 2 of Books about and written by the Sussexes.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on March 03, 2022, 04:19:08 PM
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle hope to return to the UK as 'part-time royals' when Charles becomes King because he's more of a 'moderniser' than the Queen, royal author claims
Harry and Meghan 'hope' to return to UK as 'part-time' royals, says Tom Quinn
The author says 'moderniser' Charles may be happy with this arrangement
Currently, the Queen does not approve of the idea of half-in, half-out royals
His comments follow reports Harry is unlikely to return for the Queen's Jubilee

Quinn added that an anonymous 'insider' had told him: 'Meghan and Harry believe that when the elder royals die ? in other words, Elizabeth ? they may well be able when Charles is King, be able to come back and be the part-time royals that they really wanted to be.   

'So that they would be six months [being] working royals and six months in the States or wherever doing their own thing.

'That was something that Queen Elizabeth absolutely said couldn?t happen, but I think Meghan and Harry are hoping that Charles, Harry's father after all, will be more of a moderniser and will say to them, "Okay, if you want to be part-time royals, that?s fine".'

Harry and Meghan may want to return to the UK when Charles is king, says royal author | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10572705/Harry-Meghan-want-return-UK-Charles-king-says-royal-author.html)

:laugh:
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on March 03, 2022, 07:56:13 PM
To be honest, I don't see the public being happy with that type of arrangement the author is forecasting for the future. No doubt that Charles would be happy to have his youngest son and his family there for visits or even to live in the UK, however I don't see the Sussexes wanting to return to this way of life.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on March 03, 2022, 10:10:56 PM
Charles has been the most trashed by his son Harry.  Where to begin? The memoir apparently he will trash the dad much more?! There is some good speculation and rumors of pressure from publisher to Harry, to Harry changing his mind many times...who knows! Until the book is published. Even Lady C has said in one of her latest videos that she confirms that Harry will write in his memoir an incident about Meghan that Lady C says she confirms to be true after investigating, people will feel slightly sorry for her.  The Rumor (not by Lady C as she says she can't say it yet but by other megaMeghan) is that Meghan WAS taken her keys and passport for several months because several times - night in PJ's walking around Windsor estate alone and with a 'lost' eyes/face, security had to help her back at FC?! Withdrawal from some pill dependency?! It can be, it does happen, don't know anyone personally, but have read of withdrawal syndrome due to the end of a drug?! I wonder IF this will be disclosed in Harry's Memoir.

Back to Quinn:

I don't know who is the source of Quinn, but it seems to me the source thinks the BRF will not be united (after the death of the Queen). This type of thought process IS Meghan and Harry; after the Oprah interview, a few hours later, they stated that everyone is guilty minus HM and PP. Usually, people who think like this have deep family issues (Meghan, then Harry after meeting Meghan. Even the most megaHarry lovers didn't see this trashing for cash personality trait in him ''before'')  ETA:  Usually, strong families will keep unity by defending every member.  Weak families or broken (like Meghan and AfterHarryMetMeghan) think the opposite, hence their Oprah, immediate reaction.   HM then sent a statement in behalf of the ''family'', so they think that King Charles will be different.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on March 04, 2022, 02:40:45 AM
I confess to feeling very concerned about what Harry might have said in his book. If he does trash the POW, his brother, and/or anyone else in the family, then why? Surely it couldn't be simply making trash for income and MUST must have other motives such as; revenge, feeling sorry for himself, or perhaps he is seriously depressed and is looking through a warped lens. In any case, his wife, advisors, editors, etc, should never let him soil himself in this way. But maybe it's all hype and harmless.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on March 04, 2022, 02:47:46 AM
Quote from: wannable on March 03, 2022, 04:19:08 PM
Harry and Meghan may want to return to the UK when Charles is king, says royal author | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10572705/Harry-Meghan-want-return-UK-Charles-king-says-royal-author.html)

:laugh:
Sometimes the similarity of the Sussex situation to the drama of King Edward VIII's abdication is scary. He didn't seem to understand how devastaking his actions were to the family, and he was forever wanting to come back and resume life as before. He pestered his brother for positions.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on March 16, 2022, 01:46:51 PM
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Prince Harry book: Kate could be 'disrespected' by Duke as concerns raised over content
KATE, the Duchess of Cambridge, could be attacked in Prince Harry's memoir set to be released later this year after "concerns" have been raised.


Going down the 'little cat' route (same if he writes about any woman)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on April 23, 2022, 04:21:21 PM
A new book by Tina Brown

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'A very, very angry man': Prince Harry had 'Olympic rows' with William and 'poured out resentments' about his father Charles to ex-girlfriend Cressida Bonas who found complaints about his family 'tiresome', bombshell new book claims

Prince Harry 'vented' about William and 'poured out resentments' about his father Charles to his actress ex-girlfriend Cressida Bonas so much that she asked MI6 to recommend a therapist for the duke, a bombshell new book sensationally claims. Tina Brown, the author of The Palace Papers: Inside The House Of Windsor - The Truth And The Turmoil, says the Duke of Sussex grew 'angry' as he felt his brother was 'hogging the best briefs' around a decade ago - and when he wasn't obsessing over William would moan about the Prince of Wales. She claims 'friction between the brothers escalated' so much after William became patron of the rhino and elephant charity the Tusk Trust in 2015 that the pair had 'Olympic rows' - and quotes a friend of the siblings as calling Harry a 'very, very angry man'. The royal expert also claims Harry's ex-girlfriend Cressida grew 'tiresome' of his complaints about his family while they dated between 2012 and 2014, and was apparently the first person to persuade the Queen 's grandson to see a therapist - even taking advice from MI6 to find the right person.

Prince Harry had 'Olympic rows' with William, bombshell new book claims | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10745909/Prince-Harry-Olympic-rows-William-bombshell-new-book-claims.html)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on April 24, 2022, 12:23:19 AM
Has Tina Brown been talking to Cressida? Bet not! And that is very different to Ingrid Seward?s version almost a decade ago when she vented (and Ingrid actually knew both Cressida and her mother, who was her great friend) stating that Cressida couldn?t stand the close attention she was getting from both the tabloids and the public. According to Seward members of the public would criticise her hair, boho clothing and even her boots, talking about them in earshot of her. And who goes to MI6 to ask for advice on mental health therapy! An unnamed ?friend of the siblings? I see, going the same route as the tabloids. And can?t be much of a friend of Harry?s if they are tittle-tattling to a journalist biographer.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on April 24, 2022, 03:40:03 PM
I think Cressy gave the thumbs up to Tina Brown.  The way Cressy ''was'' portrayed (big time loser and begger) by the media when they broke up (heavier by the US media, like People Mag really destoryed her character), it looked like Cressy 0 Harry  1.  So this authorized article by Tina Brown to the DM actually gives Cressy the final say of that chapter in her life, basically (read it all) Harry is a full time nightmare.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on May 09, 2022, 09:04:00 PM
Meghan Markle 'came from nothing' and 'trampled on others to get to the top like a politician' her biographer Tom Bower claims as he reveals her 'victims' will 'tell all' in new book.

Meghan Markle 'came from nothing' and 'trampled on others to get to the top' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10796565/Meghan-Markle-came-trampled-top.html)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on May 09, 2022, 10:08:27 PM
Tom Bowyer has never liked Meghan and has made that clear since she first joined the Royal Family. As for ?climbing over people? Bowyer has made a career (and a great deal of money) as a journalist and then an author, tearing pieces out of his subjects, including members of the Royal Family. He doesn?t like anybody he writes about. I have his book on Charles and read several of his other bios. None are exactly balanced!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on May 09, 2022, 10:41:21 PM
?Hatchet jobs?. Tom Bowyers books.

Five times Meghan Markle biographer Tom Bower made bombshell claims about his subjects - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-times-meghan-markle-biographer-23802302)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on May 22, 2022, 01:47:53 PM
Update on the Duke's memoir which may or may not be published in 2022.

archive.ph (https://archive.ph/fFy28)

QuoteIt is hotly anticipated, with many in royal circles braced for the day it hits the bookshelves. But exactly when the Duke of Sussex will publish his ?intimate and heartfelt memoir? is a mystery.
Billed as ?an inspiring, courageous and uplifting human story? with Prince Harry writing ?not as the prince I was born but as the man I have become?, Penguin Random House announced the book with fanfare last year, with ?publication tentatively scheduled for late 2022?.
But last week a spokeswoman for the publisher said it did not yet have a publication date, and would not confirm whether the book would still appear this year as planned. An approach to Harry?s spokeswoman elicited a similar response and another source said there was ?some uncertainty? over the book?s publication date.
It is also understood that the Sussexes have recently parted company with their global press secretary, Toya Holness, who was appointed to the role in March last year after joining the couple?s public relations team in October 2020.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on May 24, 2022, 03:07:37 AM
Is Prince Harry's memoir on the shelf? No date is set for Duke's tell-all book | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10843095/Is-Prince-Harrys-memoir-shelf-No-date-set-Dukes-tell-book.html)

Prince Harry: New confusion over his 'tell-all' royal memoir | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220523140930/prince-harry-confusion-release-tell-all-royal-memoir/)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on May 24, 2022, 08:22:27 AM
All this talk about when this so called *Book* by Harry will be released.....so what?  He and Meghan both have trashed the royal family inside and out...so what is left to say?  Issues like who did what, who called whom, who got what new car, clothes, a new charity, or a new title..all of it is really no big deal.  Harry can and probably will write a book, or maybe in time 2 or 3 more books, they will probably all be the same since he is not living in the UK nor sees the family on a regular basis..so what can he really write about then....more Lies no doubt.  I think the public will get sick and tired of all this, book, interviews, tv shows...all the same ole stuff he has been spouting since he moved to Ca and now lives in his own 14 million dollar home, and has money in the bank with that trust fund...so why is Harry so darn miserable with life?  I think he is miserable because things just did not go his way in life, he wants what Harry wants now and maybe he is not getting what he wants now....I just look at him as a very spoiled rich little boy playing at being a man..selfish and a strong sense of entitlement that he must have what he wants NOW....just what does Harry really want.....maybe to be first in life for the throne yet that would involve meeting and greeting and shaking hands with thousands of people the rest of your life, William will do it as he respects his family and the traditions that come with it....Harry has no respect for his family at all as we all have seen.....
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on May 24, 2022, 09:51:17 AM
I really hope it's his own experience with AA (Lady C says it will be about the 12 step program) rather than trashing people.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on May 24, 2022, 10:17:29 AM
ETA: Also, perhaps he can't trash the family anymore, time will tell, the BRF IMO has lawyered up (there's a difference of running to the media to trash and running to the media to spill a meeting with fake accounting of what really happened). Setting precedent Oprah took down the interview from CBS and her own OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network) channel.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on May 25, 2022, 04:20:03 AM
That is interesting news as I did not realize that, so wonder what got into Oprah to take down her own interview of the Sussex's both from CBS and OWN?  She must want something from someone somewhere or wants to make amends with the royal family exceptions would be the Sussex's.   Oprah is someone who never does anything without getting something back or making it work for her..LOL.  So maybe there will be *no* 2nd interview with the Sussex's after all...they have to be seen as members in good standing with the royal family so that they can make money and keep their sponsors happy.  Just don't turn your back on them, because this way a person won't be surprised at what they will do next.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on June 01, 2022, 04:20:02 PM
Duke of Sussex will not talk about his uncle the Duke of York in his release books because his uncle admitted sex scandal with his friends disgrace Jeffrey Epstein but will kept private matter for Duke of York and his two girls not mentioned about tell all bombshell books kept quiet books won?t release till late 2022

Harry 'won't talk about Prince Andrew' in upcoming book 'out of affection for Eugenie' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/harry-wont-talk-prince-andrew-27115233)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on June 10, 2022, 06:00:44 PM
US Weekly Mag

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Prince Harry?s Memoir Has Apparently Been Rejected By Publisher Multiple Times
Sources say Harry has gone through draft and draft trying to get it right.

Is Prince Harry struggling to pen a marketable memoir? One tabloid claims the duke's publication date was pushed back because he's failing to deliver. Let's check in on the highly-anticipated tell-all.

Insiders Worried About Harry's Memoir?
This week's edition of Us Weekly reports Prince Harry's publishers haven't been impressed by the first few iterations of his highly-anticipated memoir. While the duke's book was initially slated for a 2022 release, the project no longer has a publication date. And now, sources fear that Harry's work hasn't been up to par. Everything is up in the air, and the first few drafts of the book have been scrapped, an insider spills. Publishers aren't paying Harry $20 million to rehash old material or write a book that's based solely on wellness. They want to shake it up with new gossip.

He won't get the gossip from the BRF, they are ready with lawyers.

The only gossip he will be able to get is from within his own home in Montecito. I only see a reality show he would have to do with his wife and children.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on June 10, 2022, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: wannable on June 10, 2022, 06:00:44 PM
US Weekly Mag

He won't get the gossip from the BRF, they are ready with lawyers.

The only gossip he will be able to get is from within his own home in Montecito. I only see a reality show he would have to do with his wife and children.  :shrug:

You?re right about that will be embarrassed front of his grandmother the Queen Elizabeth II,his dad the Prince Charles and Duke of Cambridge plus member of royal family wouldn?t allowed that!! As moderator for Sussexes Harry know better not allowed to tell all books and also bombshell interviews included Oprah and NBC interviews also im forbid Harry not publish this book if Harry do that again he will not forgive to his grandmother the Queen Elizabeth II,his dad,Duke of Cambridge and member of royal family
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on July 13, 2022, 07:48:56 PM
Tom Bower's book entitled Revenge information.

https://www.waterstones.com/book/revenge/tom-bower/9781788705035
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 13, 2022, 11:55:06 PM
Well, I won?t be buying it. It?s been said of Bowers that he dislikes all the subjects of his biographies and paints with a poisoned pen. I agree. He?s never met anyone he doesn?t loathe and has been sued several times.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on July 16, 2022, 09:55:15 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Tom Bower's new book examines the rift between the Sussexes and the royals.

In the first extracts, Meghan tells a magazine about her relationship with Prince Harry - and takes the family into uncharted waters.

Thread: https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1547990753262964737?s=20&t=c9GwctUa7wHbgcHhZBncWw
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on July 16, 2022, 02:55:17 PM
The Times article.

archive.ph (https://archive.ph/mPTTU)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 05:03:39 PM
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Meghan Markle 'rang her PR team and was hysterical' when Vanity Fair cover led on her relationship with Harry and not her 'philanthropy' to anger of Palace, claims bombshell new book
Meghan appeared on the cover of Vanity Fair's September 2017 issue
In her interview, she was instructed not to go into detail about her relationship
However, she told interviewer Sam Kashner that she and Harry were 'in love'
The cover ran with the headline 'Wild About Harry' - to the Palace's dismay
According to a new book by author Tom Bower, Meghan called her PR agency describing Buckingham Palace's fury upon seeing the magazine cover

Meghan Markle called her PR team in hysterics after Buckingham Palace reacted with 'fury' to her Vanity Fair interview about Prince Harry, a bombshell new book has claimed.

Tom Bower, journalist and author of 'Revenge: Meghan, Harry and the war between the Windsors', says Meghan was 'ecstatic' when she was asked to appear on the cover of Vanity Fair's September 2017 issue and do an interview with the magazine.

But when the magazine ran with the headline 'Wild About Harry' on its cover -  focusing on Meghan's relationship with the British prince rather than her work as an actor, activist and philanthropist - Bower says the Palace was taken aback.

Within hours of the magazine's pre-publication copies being sent to Buckingham Palace, Bower says Meghan phoned her PR firm and 'hysterically' told them of the Palace's fury.

Meghan Markle was hysterical' after Buckingham Palace reacted to her Vanity Fair interview | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11018781/Meghan-Markle-hysterical-Buckingham-Palace-reacted-Vanity-Fair-interview.html)

I suppose extracts will be purchased by different media outlets
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on July 16, 2022, 06:46:36 PM
"Sunshine Sachs had demanded that the magazine satisfy Meghan's requirement that she be presented  as a philanthropist and activist, without considering one problem: Vanity Fair's scrupulous researchers could find no evidence of Meghan's global philanthropy and activism"

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1547996293015842817?s=20&t=ywwYsLecy9u28LZs70V7Kg
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 09:01:18 PM
 :lol: :happycry: :eyes: :o :wacko: :no: :cry:

A bunch of smiley faces to describe extracts, I might just purchase the ebook!

How crazy is this!
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She was equally furious that her battle with P&G was omitted. Kashner resisted revealing that Vanity Fair's fact checkers had raised questions about its accuracy and, after consulting P&G and advertising historians, had concluded they could not prove the whole story. They could also find no evidence, as Meghan claimed, that she received a reply from Clinton. Unknown to Kashner, Thomas Markle knew Clinton and P&G had not replied to Meghan. The success of her 'campaign' was fictitious, invented by an adoring father.
She complained because she wasn't presented in the way she wanted,?recalled Kashner. She demanded that the media do what she expects. I felt manipulated.
archive.ph (https://archive.ph/TLRn7#selection-1297.190-1315.157)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
Here is more from The Times (so far 3 archives, 1. posted by Princess of Peace 2. Wannable (previous file from this comment) 3. Wannable 3 hours posted in twitter by The Times.

archive.ph (https://archive.ph/xexG0#selection-821.0-839.127)

Meghan felt she was the victim. Prince Harry went in to fight for her

A blow-by-blow account charts how repeated clashes with the Palace over family, charity and protocol led, inevitably, to Megxit
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 09:17:38 PM
By order of timeline (of what The Times have purchased from TB and how they are publishing it)

2017 archive.ph (https://archive.ph/TLRn7)
2018 archive.ph (https://archive.ph/xexG0#selection-821.0-839.127)
2021 archive.ph (https://archive.ph/mPTTU)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 09:53:37 PM
This appears to be a usual Bowyer hatchet job, similar to what he produced about Charles and other people he has torn into in his books. However he appears to have come up blank with regard to exactly what was happening behind the scenes at KP and BP in the years between 2017 and 2020. And most of what he has printed here has been seen in newspapers before.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on July 16, 2022, 06:46:36 PM
"Sunshine Sachs had demanded that the magazine satisfy Meghan's requirement that she be presented  as a philanthropist and activist, without considering one problem: Vanity Fair's scrupulous researchers could find no evidence of Meghan's global philanthropy and activism"

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1547996293015842817?s=20&t=ywwYsLecy9u28LZs70V7Kg


Google is your friend.

Markle spoke at the 2014 summit for the international charity One Young World in Dublin[149] and attended the 2016 opening ceremony in Ottawa.[150] Also in 2014, she toured Spain, Italy, Turkey, Afghanistan and England with the United Service Organizations.[151] During her time in Toronto, she volunteered for the Community Meals Program of St. Felix Centre and donated food from the set of Suits.[152][153]

In 2016, Markle became a global ambassador for World Vision Canada, traveling to Rwanda for the Clean Water Campaign.[154][155][30] After a trip to India focused on raising awareness for women's issues, she penned an op-ed for Time magazine concerning stigmatization of women in regard to menstrual health.[156] She has also worked with the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women as an advocate.[154][157] Meghan is a vocal feminist and intended to use her role as a member of the royal family to continue supporting women's rights and social justice.[158] In 2017, Markle joined Prince Harry in teaming up with the charity Elephants Without Borders to assist with the conservation efforts taking place in Botswana.[159]

Visits to Rwanda and India before marriage. WorldVision.

Meghan Markle's Charity Work | World Vision UK (https://www.worldvision.org.uk/about/celebrity-supporters/meghan-markle/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:09:56 PM
^ Vanity Fair calls that the usual hollywood philanthropic PR.  Paid travels by an agency (SS) to take pictures with the poor. Yes it is done by hollywood actors and actresses.  I think the only true one is Keanu Reeves, like 10 years later one gets to find out his charity doings that come from him rather than a hollywood agent

This is 000.5% of the entire book.

I sincerely believed (until today) in the P&G story, not anymore (only IF Meghan pulls out the Clinton letter). 

I never ever thought Serena Williams would tell TB that Meghan is just an acquaintance/a person you know slightly but they aren't friends. And goes on with a famous quote that would leave anyone 'don't call ever again'.

Just the first part (P&G) thingy, she (and her dad agreeing) is a con artist.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 10:18:57 PM
Only one of the times when Serena Williams praises Meghan.

Serena Williams Reacts To Meghan Markle's Oprah Interview - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dBFWQqHufyY)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:23:54 PM
Well they are traitors to ''her'' now.  TB book is based on 'recorded' interviews.

Perhaps the key word is some or all of TB's sources felt 'manipulated'.

One can meet someone, then change your mind later on when more meat comes into light so to speak.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 10:24:48 PM
Proctor and Gamble have never denied that Meghan asked them to change a commercial. There was a clip of Meghan speaking about it as an eleven year old in class.

They are partners with the Sussexes.

Meghan Markle Partnering With Company She Challenged 28 Years Ago (https://www.insider.com/meghan-markle-partnering-with-company-she-challenged-28-years-ago-2021-5)

And as for Hillary Clinton she has praised Meghan several times in public. And visited her in England.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 10:27:29 PM
Quote from: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:23:54 PM
Well they are traitors to ''her'' now.  TB book is based on 'recorded' interviews.

Perhaps the key word is some or all of TB's sources felt 'manipulated'.

One can meet someone, then change your mind later on when more meat comes into light so to speak.

Serena met Meghan several times and there are others occasions when she speaks warmly about her. And I can well believe that sources felt manipulated, by Tom Bowyer.

Serena Williams praises Meghan Markle's bravery in exposing 'pain and cruelty' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/serena-williams-praises-meghan-markles-23628256)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:30:39 PM
The book went through lawyers, all sources were confirmed.  What is so hard to not understand that these sources stand with TB and the book is 'actually' out for purchase with delivery date asap, like you can get it tomorrow.

Vanity Fair got in touch with P&G and advertisement historians...come on now, her DAD when SHE was good with him, he agreed to play the P&G part ficticious story.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 10:27:29 PM
Serena met Meghan several times and there are others occasions when she speaks warmly about her. And I can well believe that sources felt manipulated, by Tom Bowyer.

So Serena stating now that Meghan is just an acquaintance is BS?  She's a source, she agreed to talk to TB, the book fine tooth lawyers ask the suing questions, do you agree with what you said, can we publish this part as it is, yes or no. (unlike Harry who is in deep trouble, his stories do not have sources that 'can' say yes it is as he recounts, update of his book)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 10:35:47 PM
Quote from: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:31:16 PM
So Serena stating now that Meghan is just an acquaintance is BS?

Is Serena praising Meghan again and again in various clips and articles BS? She calls Meghan her friend in the IG I just posted. Was she lying then?
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:39:11 PM
March 2021

We are in July 2022. 

You think TB would use Serena Williams and actually Serena using a famous quote of stop hiding, no. This acquaintanceship with Meghan is over.  This isn't TB first book first dance.  Serena signed up for this book, he isn't stupid. (Every source has to sign up agreeing with whatever they said to make a book get published, period. The End) Something allegedly Harry doesn't have, no one, not a single source will confirm his especially bad stories with whomever.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:39:11 PM
March 2021

We are in July 2022. 

You think TB would use Serena Williams and actually Serena using a famous quote of stop hiding, no. This acquaintanceship with Meghan is over.  This isn't TB first book first dance.  Serena signed up for this book, he isn't stupid. (Every source has to sign up agreeing with whatever they said to make a book get published, period. The End) Something allegedly Harry doesn't have, no one, not a single source will confirm his especially bad stories with whomever.

That quote from Serena to Kashner is from September 2017. If she wasn?t her friend then why was she stating she was in March 2021?
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 16, 2022, 10:51:02 PM
As I said the publisher lawyer has to get in touch with ALL the sources to confirm and agreement of using their name, quotes, recollections, etc. before the book is published.

Serena didn't invite her to Mother's Day weekend party May 2022 (some were both days, some were Saturday or Sunday, all famous women), Meghan wasn't there, wasn't invited.  The acquaintanceship of using each other IMO is over.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on July 17, 2022, 12:44:49 AM
Posts regarding Tom Bower's other books and subjects have been moved to the Royal Authors and Commentators  thread in  the Socialites and Acquaintances  forum. Please keep to the topic Books about and written by the Sussexes. Any other off topic posts will be removed.

Royal Commentators, reporters and authors (http://www.royalinsight.net/forum/index.php?topic=89231.0)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on July 18, 2022, 12:37:26 PM
The next excerpt of Revenge by Tom Bower, covering Meghan meeting Prince Harry's friends and her photoshoots for Reitman's.

archive.ph (https://archive.ph/RYQJB)

I do applaud Meghan for making it clear to Harry's friends how she felt about their "jokes" and comments. IMHO she had every right to make it clear that she didn't find the remarks to be funny at all.  Unfortunately the Reitman's photoshoots portion does seem to reinforce that Meghan can be difficult to work with.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 18, 2022, 01:25:43 PM
Woke era, what used to be jokes  in the past today a joke has to be studied.  i.e. Will Smith could have accepted being banned for 10 years from the Oscars, but the Wife Joke has been banished and in some places like in the UK penalized.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 19, 2022, 02:06:12 PM
The Vanity Fair journalist wrote to the Times Editor, he regrets about the P&G little fluke he told TB, and he said he would have loved to talk about her activism. 

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 19, 2022, 09:40:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYBS5a6WQAw-qlV?format=jpg&name=large

Sam Kasher pushes back in The Times about his portrayal in Bowers? book.

MY INTERVIEW WITH MEGHAN MARKLE
Sir, I'm afraid Tom Bower didn't convey my admiration and respect
for Meghan Markle in the excerpt from his new book in The Times on
Saturday ("Writer 'felt manipulated' by Meghan"). I found Ms Markle
to be exceptionally warm and gracious and admired her intelligence
and her remarkable courage, as I still do.
I regretted the oft-published account of challenging Proctor & Gamble
being edited out of my Vanity Fair article, because I'd wanted to
highlight her lifelong activism. The piece itself was quite laudatory.
One more thing. I do not have a stutter. I may hem and haw a bit but a
stammer is not a stutter and, as far as I know, Ms Markle never said
she liked me because of it!
A belated congratulations to Prince Harry for taking such an
extraordinary woman as his bride. Theirs is clearly a love match, so
maybe we should stop piling on and let the couple live their life in
peace.
Sam Kashner
Williamsburg, Virginia
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 19, 2022, 10:15:56 PM
 :laugh: He received copy and recording, then he proceeded to sign the agreement. (He can't sue)

The guy gets a call from SS, writes nice words.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 20, 2022, 01:24:54 AM
Quote from: wannable on July 19, 2022, 10:15:56 PM
:laugh: He received copy and recording, then he proceeded to sign the agreement. (He can't sue)

The guy gets a call from SS, writes nice words.

You may regard Tom Bowers book as being a set of Commandments from Mt Sinai itself. I don?t, and there are plenty of people who regard Bowers (as well as Lady CC) as a self righteous old head-kicker from way back. His notion of writing a biography (and I?ve read quite a bit of his work) is to go for the jugular (and he never likes or cares for who he writes about) and get as many people as possible who don?t like his subject to put in their two penneth as well. In addition he is more than capable of twisting what they say as well, for his own ends.

There is never a shortage of people who dislike others in public life and are prepared to say so to suit their own agendas, that?s how Bowers makes his living. I don?t admire that kind of biography. I prefer something more balanced.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 20, 2022, 01:30:41 AM
I regard him factually as a grad legal barrister with practice, turned author.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 20, 2022, 02:01:59 AM
Really, lol? Bowers embarked on his career as a journalist after a brief spell as a barrister, joining the BBC current affairs strand Panorama as a reporter.

Well, barristers aren?t legal experts by any stretch of the imagination. They plead their clients?s case in court after the solicitor concerned puts together the evidence on the client?s behalf. They are advocates and  plea-dealers under England (and Aus and NZ?s legal systems)  which is based on Common Law, and have been since early medieval days. And being a barrister doesn?t automatically make any of them 100% honest, or honorable.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 20, 2022, 02:59:21 AM
You didn?t ask me, you?re trying to be fastidious towards me with provocations. Ask me and I will tell you exactly how I think. No worries, his trajectory from barrister, BBC researcher fact checker, journalist to author is well known.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on July 20, 2022, 07:08:13 AM
This book is going to hurt a lot of people, not just Meghan, Harry but it will put doubts about them and how they treat people, most their families.

think Meghan has a very hard time telling the truth as Harry has a very hard time in not reliving his past with his mother and that makes both of them look totally untrustworthy to me and I am sure many others, mostly companies that have doubts about doing business with them. 

We all have told some sort of lies in our lives, we are just humans and make those mistakes and hopefully learn from them, yet Meghan is an educated adult and in telling lies that makes her look very insecure within herself (got that from the president of the psychiatrists association a very long time ago) and Harry just can not seem to to move forward from the death of his mother when talking to people which also shows he can not move on either.  Both I see  as having mental health issues and would benefit from professional help.   Harry looks miserable and sad and angry, all in one at the same time.  Meghan has that practiced smile that is frozen in time when out in public......and both are very adept at using people and taking advantage of any opportunity that comes their way to do something to make themselves  appear more noticeable to the public.  As I read elsewhere and fully believe, *This is not going to end on a positive note for them as they just do not get that *Lies always catches up with you* and that is a given in life  ....this is very sad as both at one time had the world knocking on their door and they blew it for MONEY, financial freedom,  and we all know *money* does not buy happiness ever!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 20, 2022, 02:08:14 PM
^ Harry is lucky that he has a family, despite trashing, lying, abetting  by association to his wife (which is his family since marriage), both together. Anything he or she does, both have responsibility.  During their trashing and lying after their exit in the past present and possibly they will keep on in the future as middle age people. Using a fictitious activism event to date as a grown up is Insane.  Up to what kind of 'degree' of lying will they be capable of doing? Thay already did by making a blank statement of 'someone' in the family is racist, to date with no clearing the situation.

Have they committed serious offense, yes. Why is Harry lucky as I stated IMO in the above sentence, his family is pressuring HIM (and HER) with lawyers (and in fluffy instances with a silent no contact treatment).  Any fat lie the couple already know they will be met with the BRF lawyers (rumor is that close ex friends of Harry are included to benefit from the BRF Lawyers)

Perjury is a statutory offence in England and Wales. A person convicted of perjury is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding seven years, or to a fine, or to both.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 20, 2022, 02:31:13 PM
ETA: I wouldn't trust them at all never.  IMO the BRF to date know how sofisticated these 2 are with lies that may lead to a very serious matter, in the past IMO the BRF minus William (from the word Go, Kate by being W's wife, although some say she also knew from the word GO) were naive.  Meghan with Harry's abetting made sure to leave a 'paper trail' with BP's Human Resources with 'emails' of ''I'm feeling suicidal''  rather than being God to Honest in their capacity as 'head', 'principal' using their own private and confidential therapist?! See this type of behaviour IMO is very dangerous. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on July 20, 2022, 11:33:45 PM
Here's a link with sample excerpts from the book.

Revenge by Tom Bower ? OverDrive: ebooks, audiobooks, and more for libraries and schools (https://www.overdrive.com/media/9114429/revenge)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 20, 2022, 11:40:23 PM
What have these comments in the two posts above here by @wannable  to do with Tom Bowyers?s book or with the one written by Harry, supposedly to be published in October 2022 that is not even out yet? They are nothing but repeats of the same old, same old general dislikes of Meghan and Harry by a poster who never cared for them in the first place.

As for inferences that BRF lawyers have become involved, where is the credible evidence that is so? And I?m not talking about speculative articles in the tabloid press. The same with some dark inference that Harry will be charged with perjury for something or other. What an absolutely ridiculous statement! A perjury charge requires far more than some notion that someone may be saying something in the future, and I can practically guarantee that Harry?s not going to be charged with anything at all!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on July 21, 2022, 12:42:16 AM
Reminder-This thread is not limited to Tom Bower's recent release.  It's about any and all current and future books written about and/or by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 21, 2022, 12:50:11 PM
Tom Bower discusses in Chapter 35 The Trial (Finding Freedom, Jason, Harry, Meghan and Omid, the famous apology by Meghan that she had forgot about the 30 something pages of email exchange with Jason to then sit with Omid for his book, the court accepting the apology, plus a bit more that is new that Omid had signed a document for the Judge that he didn't receive any colab, then Jason appeared and there was a colab.)

Chapter 38 The Interview (Oprah, Meghan and Harry)

I think I'll leave it here for now until the book is read by RIF members and/or copyright extracts in the media to link. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 21, 2022, 02:35:21 PM
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Appearing on Good Morning Britain to discuss his book, Bower said Meghan had warned those closest to her not to speak to him.

He said: 'She made it pretty clear to all her friends and people who work for her not to talk to me, so it was quite an uphill struggle but I got enough people to speak to me, more than enough, I got about 80 people.'

Presenter Ben Shephard how the story could be an unbiased account if the author had interviewed people who dislike the Duchess of Sussex.

Bower responded: 'Because I sifted through, I never put in stuff that isn't true and can't be checked.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 21, 2022, 05:17:34 PM
The man himself said (today, a couple of hours ago) he has more than 100 tape recordings, mentioned it because of a Question about Sam Kasher.

Today Lady C said she knows SK, very nice guy, but there's a but, SS is deeply entrenched at the Vanity Fair Building, would understand why Sam did what he did 'letter to the editor of the Times', his job, salary, income) and Tom Bower is the type of author that tape records everything. She gave an example of herself tape recording everything she  then uses to write her books. She had one similar situation in the past (very long past) with Richard Kay, she confronted him after he denied what she had written about their conversation, she told him she had (still does, she said authors that tape record don't throw it away never) the interview tape recordings between them, he was taken aback by it, shtum.  What she implies ''for now'' is he (Sam Kasher) won't be able to sue TB.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on July 21, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/21/20/60548719-11036943-image-a-4_1658433226325.jpg)
Camilla 'asked if Meghan and Harry's son would have ''Ginger Afro''' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11036943/Camilla-asked-Meghan-Harrys-son-Ginger-Afro.html)

Prince Harry ready to lay bare different 'side' as book delay hints at major reveal | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1644105/prince-harry-book-memoir-delay-reveal-new-details)

Prince Harry has 'broken No.1 rule of Royal Family' as further bombshells expected | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1643215/prince-harry-memoir-prince-william-meghan-markle-royal-family-spt)

Prince Harry handed 'biggest chance to tell his side of story' with royal memoirs | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1643543/prince-harry-news-royal-family-memoir-omid-scobie)

Meghan and Harry biography to ?widen royal rift? warns royal expert | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1643500/meghan-markle-prince-harry-tom-bower-biography-royal-family-sussex-vn)

Bombshell claim Camilla asked if Meghan Markle & Harry's son would have 'Ginger Afro' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/bombshell-claims-camilla-asked-meghan-27539198)

Meghan Markle and Harry's row with Beckhams, Jubilee snub and dinosaur visit - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghan-markle-harrys-row-beckhams-27541401)

Queen spotted for first time since explosive book about Meghan and Harry hits shelves - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-spotted-first-time-explosive-27542644)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 21, 2022, 11:49:16 PM
Who said that Kasher wanted to sue? An author can write something and put a different interpretation on what was said  to what the interviewee intended to impart, and that is obviously what happened in that case.

Bower himself admitted yesterday that he didn?t speak to any people who were friends of Meghan?s or who supported her. He stated it was because they refused to see him. So he was left with people who dislike her and have an axe to grind. And in spite of his hints before publication quite obviously Meghan?s ex boyfriend Corey and ex husband refused to speak to him about her either. Good for them.

Bower himself deeply dislikes Meghan. He has been taking potshots at her in interviews for over years. And when asked why his book would be unbiased due to never speaking to those who liked her he dodged the question and made the excuse that he didn?t put stuff in his book that couldn?t be proven. That doesn?t prove non-bias at all. And in fact his entire book  is a ha*te piece against a woman he has never met and never spoken to. To say the least, not impressive for a serious author. He said today that he hoped his book would diminish the Sussexes. What a noble cause!

As for Lady CC, not interested in her whatsoever. She made up fairy stories about the QM and her parents and put them in a book that was laughed at by everyone who know the Strathmores.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 22, 2022, 02:42:27 AM
He can?t, that?s the point.

I think they know her from their own experience. The BRF too after several years of deceit ?, Oprah being the biggest one.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 22, 2022, 02:53:17 AM
Quote from: wannable on July 22, 2022, 02:42:27 AM
He can?t, that?s the point.

I think they know her from their own experience. The BRF too after several years of deceit ?, Oprah being the biggest one.

The merits of writing a classic biography aren?t tied up to how many people are prepared to sue you afterwards!  Biographers  are supposed to try and be fair to their subjects not go for the jugular and only interview people who have clashed with the person concerned.

There were and are plenty of people who knew and know Meghan, and there were obviously people who knew her and liked her who refused to speak to Bowyer. He then went and concentrated on those who disliked her and who like himself had an axe to grind. And that alone makes for an extremely unbalanced book.

Oh, and talking about lies and deceit?

According to Bower, Meghan?s father did not win $750,000 US dollars in the California State Lottery. Meghan?s half-brother invented the story in order to be paid by a journalist.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 22, 2022, 03:31:31 AM
He?s fact checking, that equates to being balanced, better yet truthful.

Suing equates to defamation or libel.

The man said in several interview?s this week he?s air tight clean,
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 22, 2022, 04:49:15 AM
Oh for heavens sake, a work of literature putting forth an account of a person?s life isn?t the same as producing a business data base, an accounts balance. A truly admired biographer examines all the essence of a person?s character, soul and personality from all sources, not from one side alone. Bower has failed in that because he has not questioned those people who like and admire Meghan as well as those that don?t.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on July 22, 2022, 06:05:17 AM
Quote from: Curryong on July 22, 2022, 02:53:17 AM
The merits of writing a classic biography aren?t tied up to how many people are prepared to sue you afterwards!  Biographers  are supposed to try and be fair to their subjects not go for the jugular and only interview people who have clashed with the person concerned.

There were and are plenty of people who knew and know Meghan, and there were obviously people who knew her and liked her who refused to speak to Bowyer. He then went and concentrated on those who disliked her and who like himself had an axe to grind. And that alone makes for an extremely unbalanced book.

Oh, and talking about lies and deceit?

According to Bower, Meghan?s father did not win $750,000 US dollars in the California State Lottery. Meghan?s half-brother invented the story in order to be paid by a journalist.

The issue is that both Harry and Meghan HAVE told LIES, both of them about the royal family. This is NOT about Tom Markle telling LIES, it is all about Harry and Meghan........we all tell lies at time in our lives, we are human and  yet as we become adults and work our way in the world, telling LIES does not work for family, friends, employment or any position in life, so why in the world are these 2 so called mature adults telling LIES, if they don't like the job of being a royal and what it entails then quiet and walk away, do not do what they did......they make it look like Charles cut them off financially, the Queen was an unfit mother who betrayed them by not giving them what they wanted, this half in and out stuff......and on the list goes. There constant need to be seen as royals while they walked away from that position, they created this mess they are in, not HM, not Charles, not Camilla, not William or Catherine, it is Harry and his insecurity, selfishness and arrogant attitude, sense of entitlement that he deserves what ever he wants in life and will LIE to get it and Meghan has shown she needs the spotlight to just BE as important as she thinks she is....both are damning themselves to hell with all the yes people telling them just how important and great they are......and the thing is, they are not important at all, both have done a few charities and they boast about it to the heavens and back to make themselves feel good......Phys 101, when a person has to be seen as important and wanting attention all the time in public is a sign of insecurities within themselves and boy, that is exactly  what they are showing by their actions, behavior and words all of which has consequences!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 22, 2022, 06:19:37 AM
Meghan Markle: TV host slams Harry's friends for Duchess snubbing hunting trip | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1642211/meghan-markle-duchess-of-sussex-prince-harry-friends-hunting-tom-bower-royal-latest-vn)

Can't blame Meghan' TV host slams Harry's friends for Duchess snubbing hunting trip

MEGHAN Markle could not be "blamed" for not wanting to join a hunting party a royal expert has said following sensational new claims about the Duchess of Sussex.


Speaking on the Today Show Extra, Mr Campbell said: "Forgive for jumping on the Meghan positivity train here but if you took me on my second date to a shooting party where everyone was just sexist and bratty.

Royal correspondent Natalie Oliveri added: "I can't blame Meghan here especially when she is an animal lover.

"I think anything like that would have been really hard to bear.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on July 22, 2022, 09:27:54 AM
As a second date that is not a man or woman's cup of tea or glass of wine, isn't it best to just grin and bear it, just be quiet so know one gets embarrassed or upset and then when the date is ending, just sit and the 2 people in the date just talk it out in a more mature manner instead of being nasty and upset or belligerent to the other guests?  I think Meghan handled that issue badly for all concerned and was showing her girl power so to speak.  I am not excusing the male ego that so many times gets out of control and nasty as I have been around that type of male ego and just turned my back and walked out and never went back....other people partied and I went home to do my own thing while the ex stayed there.  No need to show girl power to anyone yet Meghan couldn't resist showing who she is like at the Jubilee when she rolled down the window of the limo to show who she was and where....Being out front of everything shows a lack of self-confidence while being in the background a person can see more and hear more and do more....being quiet you learn more and get more.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 22, 2022, 01:46:22 PM
The unsocial behaviour continued at Inskip's wedding in Jamaica (Tom Bower book, guest sources). 

It's not far from royal watchers seeing (back then) pictures of the couple's interactions or lack thereof.

*****

I'm going to predict Oprah and Serena are the past.  No more acquaintanceship. Over.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 22, 2022, 02:07:29 PM
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Meghan Markle, 40, travelled to Rwanda in 2016 with World Vision Canada
Biography claims she 'insisted' on going with fashion photographer Gabor Jurina
Duchess also took a hair and makeup artist and 'several suitcases of clothes'
Tom Bower claims Meghan 'disappeared with Jurina' to take photos with kids
Said Jurina 'spent hours photographing the perfectly coiffured actress'
Film producer Brenda Surminski was 'puzzled', with Bower writing: 'Celebs using a desolate African village as the backdrop for a fashion shoot was 'mind-blowing'

Days later Gabor Jurina posted the fashion pictures in his official Instagram site. When asked, he said this would be more important in the long run.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 25, 2022, 02:03:21 AM
Meghan a threat to the royals? That?s one way to sell a book of tawdry gossip | Catherine Bennett | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/23/meghan-harry-tom-bowers-biography-piers-morgan)


So if Bower?s book, no less than the related interviews, seems suffused with a wild malice, perhaps it comes from a good and loyal place. It is to give the Queen a ?final happiness? (that ?Meghan and Harry seem determined to deny?) that Bower, as well as detailing Meghan?s ex-lovers, her early hustling for acting roles and determined forging of a personal brand, is compelled to supplement his case against her with insults. He volunteers, for example, that when the former Suits star was interviewed by Larry King, ?Meghan looked unusually unattractive with greasy hair, rumpled clothes and peaky eyes?. Finding this still harder to accept than Bower?s conviction that reliance on notorious Markle-The term "The term "hater" undermines civil and intelligent discussion/debate, and will no longer be permitted" undermines civil and intelligent discussion/debate, and will no longer be permitted is a persuasive approach, I had a look.

but to this viewer the contrast between Bower?s description and Markle?s actual (appealing) appearance is something his editors might, for the sake of reader confidence, have checked on. As it is, they must already hope that a response from one quoted detractor, Sam Kashner, published in the Times last week, will be the last to raise doubts about authorial bias. ?I found Ms Markle,? Kashner wrote, ?to be exceptionally warm and gracious and admired her intelligence and her remarkable courage, as I still do.? Bower retorts: ?That just shows the power of Meghan.?

Judge for yourself

Meghan Markle & Patrick J. Adams on Suits, On-Screen Chemistry, and Secret Talents | SEASON 2 - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jt_7zVLeRk)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 25, 2022, 02:18:15 AM
Seems like royal sources at Clarence House are not happy about Bower?s claims that Camilla joked about Harry and Meghan?s children future potentially having orange Afros. The denials came quickly after the tabloids picked it up, being described as ?no sense?.

Palace insiders deny Camilla joked Harry's baby would have 'ginger Afro' | Metro News (https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/22/palace-insiders-deny-camilla-joked-harrys-baby-would-have-ginger-afro-17048375/)

Mr Bower alleges the comments were made during a conversation between Harry and his family.

But royal sources close to Camilla have dismissed the claims as ?nonsense?. Clarence House has declined to comment.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 25, 2022, 12:07:06 PM
Camilla reference

They left off the most important part of that in the paragraph about racism. It?s in the book, he said it?s not true.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 25, 2022, 12:09:18 PM
The Guardian amnesia reference

Harry and Meghan are still actively damaging the Monarchy.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on July 26, 2022, 04:53:16 AM
Duke's memoir is facing embarrassing launch-date clash with former First Lady's follow-up title | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11047587/Dukes-memoir-facing-embarrassing-launch-date-clash-former-Ladys-follow-title.html)

Prince Harry's Book: Everything We Know About Duke of Sussex's Memoir | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-memoir-everything-we-know-duke-sussex-book/)
Embarrassed front of HM Queen Elizabeth II and member of royal family for tell all book include Oprah!! Not since Duke of Windsor wrote book tell all about his abdication and Wallis Simpson but Harry know better have permission from his grandmother the Queen Elizabeth II but Harry is no longer HRH that explain
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When is Prince Harry's book coming out?

Penguin Random House initially announced that Harry's memoir would be released in late 2022, and it's still tentatively scheduled to hit shelves before the end of this year. Although no specific date has been announced, it's believed that the book will be available in time for the holiday season.

A source recently told The Sun, "The manuscript has been finished and gone through all of the legal processes. It's done and out of Harry's hands. The publishing date has been pushed back once, but it is on track for the end of the year."

Prince Harry did not have to ask his grandmother Queen Elizabeth for permission to write his memoir

Harry spoke privately with the royal family regarding the book's publication, a spokesperson told PEOPLE last year. The spokesperson added that Harry would not be expected to obtain permission from Buckingham Palace for the project.

Buckingham Palace declined to comment, telling PEOPLE at the time: "Any clarification about the book would be a question for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex."

How much money will Prince Harry make from his memoir?

Proceeds from the book and audiobook are expected to be donated to charity.

During a surprise appearance at an August 2021 polo match benefiting Sentebale in Aspen, Colorado, the Duke of Sussex announced that he has committed $1.5 million of the proceeds from his forthcoming memoir to the charity.

"This is one of several donations I plan to make to charitable organizations, and I'm grateful to be able to give back in this way for the children and communities who gravely need it," he said in a statement.

Harry co-founded Sentebale in 2006 with Prince Seeiso of Lesotho to help children affected by HIV in Africa.

Have other royals written memoirs?

Prince Harry isn't the first member of the royal family to share his story. Edward, Duke of Windsor ? who was Queen Elizabeth's uncle and had been coronated King Edward VIII before abdicating the throne in 1936 so he could marry American Wallis Simpson ? produced a ghost-written biography titled A King's Story: The Memoirs of the Duke of Windsor in 1951.

The memoir recalled his royal upbringing and schooling, leading up to falling in love with the American divorc?e and ultimately giving up the position as monarch.

What will Prince Harry write about in the book?

Harry promised a "firsthand account of my life that's accurate and wholly truthful." According to his publishers, the book will cover his lifetime in the public eye from childhood to the present day, including his dedication to service, the military duty that twice took him to the frontlines of Afghanistan, and the joy he has found in being a husband and father.

"Prince Harry will offer an honest and captivating personal portrait, one that shows readers that behind everything they think they know lies an inspiring, courageous, and uplifting human story," Penguin Random House said in a statement about the memoir, which is being touted as "the definitive account" of the Duke of Sussex's life.

"Prince Harry has harnessed his extraordinary life experience as a prince, a soldier, and a knowledgeable advocate for social issues, establishing himself as a global leader recognized for his courage and openness. It is for that reason we're excited to publish his honest and moving story," Markus Dohle, CEO of Penguin Random House, said.

Prince Harry and Meghan relocated their family to the Duchess of Sussex's home state of California in 2020 after stepping back from their roles as working royals. Since then, there have been tensions between the couple and members of the royal family. Meghan and Prince Harry spoke about these issues during a March 2021 interview with Oprah Winfrey, where they revealed there were "concerns and conversations" about what Archie's skin color would be before he was born as well as claims that Meghan didn't receive the mental health help she needed when she was feeling suicidal. In the same interview, Harry said that father Prince Charles had "stopped taking my calls."

Buckingham Palace responded to the interview with a statement: "The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan. The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members."

Prince Harry and Meghan returned to the U.K. together in April to visit the Queen en route to Harry's Invictus Games in the Netherlands. They returned in June to participate in the monarch's Platinum Jubilee weekend, attending Trooping the Colour and a service of thanksgiving.

However, the couple noticeably didn't publicly cross paths with any of the senior royals, including Harry's father, Prince Charles, and brother, Prince William. (Prince Charles later announced that he had a "very emotional" first meeting with his granddaughter, Lilibet, during the trip.)

Prince Harry memoir: Fury at Prince Harry autobiography 'ghostwritten by Meghan' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1645835/prince-harry-memoir-ghostwritten-meghan-markle-news-latest-royal-family-christmas-release)

Prince Harry's book to be 'totally eclipsed' by Michelle Obama in dual release | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1646202/Prince-Harry-news-memoir-meghan-markle-michelle-obama-royal-family-update)

Queen has 'declined a lot in last 6 months' as Harry memoir 'last thing she needs' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1646291/queen-health-update-elizabeth-II-news-prince-harry-netflix-pressure-royal-family-latest-vn)

Prince Harry goes to war with Michelle Obama for memoir sales | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1646355/prince-harry-michelle-obama-memoir-sales)

Prince Harry memoirs 'awkward launch clash' with much anticipated Obama book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-memoirs-awkward-launch-27576140)

Diana's brother 'warned Harry three times to reconsider marrying Meghan', claims author - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-meghan-earl-spencer-27577550)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 26, 2022, 05:01:34 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1551488304411025408
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on July 30, 2022, 12:56:53 AM
How much will Harry confess about his wild years? Courtiers left quaking as Duke prepares memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11063077/How-Harry-confess-wild-years-Courtiers-left-quaking-Duke-prepares-memoir.html)

Prince Harry: Techne poll shows memoir is 'turn off' for british public | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1648015/prince-harry-techne-poll-memoir-british-public-autobiography-meghan-markle-queen-elizabeth)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on July 30, 2022, 02:47:53 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on July 30, 2022, 12:56:53 AM
How much will Harry confess about his wild years? Courtiers left quaking as Duke prepares memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11063077/How-Harry-confess-wild-years-Courtiers-left-quaking-Duke-prepares-memoir.html)

Prince Harry: Techne poll shows memoir is 'turn off' for british public | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1648015/prince-harry-techne-poll-memoir-british-public-autobiography-meghan-markle-queen-elizabeth)
If he trashes his family again it will certainly hurt the family in a public way, as it did before, but he is the one who will be hurt the most. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 31, 2022, 07:04:05 AM
Criticism of inaccuracies in Bower?s book by those cited as having been interviewed and weren?t.

Tom Bower's 'Revenge' Book About Meghan Markle Faces Criticism (https://www.insider.com/tom-bower-meghan-markle-revenge-book-faces-criticism-2022-7)

Then on July 22, the royal commentator Kristen Meinzer wrote on Twitter that she was wrongly cited in the book as a friend to the duchess and that she was never interviewed by Bower.

Meinzer previously told Insider that Bower recycled her quotes used in the book from an interview with a news outlet without giving credit to the publication.

"'No one,' agreed Kristen Meinzer, a friend and a writer, 'could have been prepared for the level of racism and misogyny and vitriol that she's faced,'" Bower wrote.

Some actors and staff discovered that Meghan's attitude occasionally shifted. Sometimes she arrived late and her empathy morphed into near-arrogance," Bower writes, adding that coworkers thought Markle's tone had become sharper and more aggressive during the sixth season of the show.

But Markle's "Suits" coworkers came to her defense in March 2021 after the palace announced it would investigate claims made in a Times of London report that the duchess bullied two senior staff members during her time with the royal family. Representatives for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex denied these allegations and, in June 2022, the palace said the results of its investigation would not be published to protect those involved.

At the time, Derek Ursacki, an assistant director on the show, wrote on Instagram: "She was always a pleasure to work with and was always kind with a huge heart, easy going, humble even after the fame of the show and her popularity skyrocketed, so full of life, so giving, supportive and funny."
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 31, 2022, 01:21:40 PM
So she wanted the (recorded) old interview to give credit to a publication. They shouldn't talk to a grad and practiced astute lawyer. 

It's already being talked (rumored) he will not be sued by anyone, particularly the Sussexes (Omid subjective second book)  :D
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on July 31, 2022, 08:40:32 PM
Prince Harry and Meghan will be forced to 'give up' royal titles ahead of Duke's memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1648358/prince-harry-meghan-markle-title-give-up-tom-bower-royal-latest-vn)
Unbelievable!!

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on July 31, 2022, 09:57:16 PM
His writing style is the same as speaking. Forced to return TB vs taking away. abeyance.

Burning out quickly, meaning the couple have already ✅ all the trashing of H family, meaning Harry and Meghan would need to do or say something sensational. Trashing the royals will not do anymore, other than the BRF lawyers promised, the entire media and worldwide is ready to debunk lies, more moneys to royal experts coffers, except the proud weirdo from ITV, so the sensational would really have to be about themselves at this point. The media is wicked, before it was only the Brit press debunking, later the world after using the purchased Oprah video, purchased the Brit debunking copyrights. Smart wickedness of having 2 weeks running the Oprah then week 3 debunking it. The whole rage is debunking, a lot of traffic.

The couple are almost but not yet being check mated. IMO
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on July 31, 2022, 11:07:51 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on July 31, 2022, 08:40:32 PM
Prince Harry and Meghan will be forced to 'give up' royal titles ahead of Duke's memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1648358/prince-harry-meghan-markle-title-give-up-tom-bower-royal-latest-vn)
Unbelievable!!



Honestly I fond that claim difficult to believe.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on July 31, 2022, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: TLLK on July 31, 2022, 11:07:51 PM
Honestly I fond that claim difficult to believe.

So do I. It?s Bower making it!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on August 01, 2022, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: TLLK on July 31, 2022, 11:07:51 PM
Honestly I fond that claim difficult to believe.
So do I.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on August 04, 2022, 01:42:04 PM
Talking about book deals; Harry signed for 4 books at 20Million. Publishers WILL give a advancement pay (Or like in Pippa's case a full pay even if the book flops)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on August 04, 2022, 02:32:57 PM
And just what can Harry write about except the royal family he grew in and hates to this day?  I really don't believe Harry is that intelligent or has anything of worth to say.  Maybe this is done just because he is a royal prince full of himself...
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on August 04, 2022, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: wannable on August 04, 2022, 01:42:04 PM
Talking about book deals; Harry signed for 4 books at 20Million. Publishers WILL give a advancement pay (Or like in Pippa's case a full pay even if the book flops)

I wouldn't be surprised to see Harry write/co-write a children's book in the future. Possible topics: wildlife conservation, Africa, child who wants to be a helicopter pilot.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on August 04, 2022, 02:48:58 PM
Allegedly the second book is about his family (waiting for the Queen to pass away) i.e. the heavy trashing, BUT it has since been confirmed that the BRF lawyers have tightened the screws firmly.  So I would really like that Harry does what TLLK suggests 👆🏻 it would be redeeming for him firstly.

BRF Lawyers = BRF family has 'real' millions to spare with lawsuits to sink an island. They've known to choose their battles wisely (except low IQ Andrew, sad)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on August 06, 2022, 02:45:54 PM
Quote from: TLLK on August 04, 2022, 02:43:37 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Harry write/co-write a children's book in the future. Possible topics: wildlife conservation, Africa, child who wants to be a helicopter pilot.
I totally agree! He loves children and relates so well to them - it would be like second nature to him and would give him something to do that relates to his talents.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on August 06, 2022, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: wannable on August 04, 2022, 02:48:58 PM
Allegedly the second book is about his family (waiting for the Queen to pass away) i.e. the heavy trashing, BUT it has since been confirmed that the BRF lawyers have tightened the screws firmly.  So I would really like that Harry does what TLLK suggests 👆🏻 it would be redeeming for him firstly.

BRF Lawyers = BRF family has 'real' millions to spare with lawsuits to sink an island. They've known to choose their battles wisely (except low IQ Andrew, sad)
Well, in my opinion, if he has written about his family waiting for the Queen to pass away he is really seeking total revenge on his father. There will be no turning back the clock after that, and he may even receive backlash from the Queen herself.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on August 06, 2022, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: wannable on August 04, 2022, 02:48:58 PM
Allegedly the second book is about his family (waiting for the Queen to pass away) i.e. the heavy trashing, BUT it has since been confirmed that the BRF lawyers have tightened the screws firmly.  So I would really like that Harry does what TLLK suggests 👆🏻 it would be redeeming for him firstly.

BRF Lawyers = BRF family has 'real' millions to spare with lawsuits to sink an island. They've known to choose their battles wisely (except low IQ Andrew, sad)

Harry writing a second book, hmm! Not according to this. And the only time I?ve read that he is going to do that has been when so called royal ?experts? like Neil Sean alleged it months ago when news of the memoir to be published around October 2022 came out. Some journalists stated that he was also going to write self-help books on mental health as well. However that?s proven to be untrue as well.

And when has it ever been ?confirmed? by BP, CH or any other viable source that RF lawyers are getting involved in anything to do with the Sussexes? Links to these official statements from the Palace, please.

Yes, family and officials will be reading the Harry memoir, but there has been no other source than tabloid journalists and other so-called sources that anybody at BP is ?lawyered up? that I?ve ever read, lol,  and I read everything connected with the Sussexes.

Prince Harry Is Not Writing More Than One Book Says Sussex Spokesperson (https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/a37117214/prince-harry-not-writing-multiple-memoirs-denial-statement/)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on August 11, 2022, 12:18:25 AM
In a new interview for Vogue about her fashion style Serena Williams speaks about her hair and clothing for the Royal Wedding, calling Meghan her friend, thus contradicting Tom Bower?s inferences about the two women in his book.

Meghan's bond with famous friend under spotlight after star mentioned Duchess and Harry | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1653136/meghan-markle-news-friendship-serena-williams-prince-harry-duchess-sussex-update)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on August 11, 2022, 02:07:38 PM
Two Sunshine Sach clients; Tyler and Serena. How many more paid clients have to endure IMO the fake friendship.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on August 11, 2022, 02:27:46 PM
Note: The above Sunshine Sach client is objective fact. Serena's quote in Tom Bowers book is also a objective fact with the corresponding footnote of who, when, where she said it 'not a friend, only an acquaintance'. Could she have changed her mind, I give is 10 out of 100, only because both families have capital invested in the same venture.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on August 11, 2022, 04:29:10 PM
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Book release on October 4,2022
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on August 12, 2022, 04:11:55 AM
Prince Harry's controversial tell-all memoir 'has been delayed until next year' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10998757/Prince-Harrys-controversial-tell-memoir-delayed-year.html)

Release of Harry?s 'heartfelt' life story 'delayed' after it doesn't appear on publisher's upcoming books list | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/19147494/prince-harry-ghostwritten-memoir-delayed/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on August 16, 2022, 11:49:24 PM
Prince Harry feared to ?break? royal privacy after he ?chose his wife? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1656212/prince-harry-meghan-markle-memoir-break-royal-privacy)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on August 18, 2022, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on August 12, 2022, 04:11:55 AM
Prince Harry's controversial tell-all memoir 'has been delayed until next year' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10998757/Prince-Harrys-controversial-tell-memoir-delayed-year.html)

Release of Harry?s 'heartfelt' life story 'delayed' after it doesn't appear on publisher's upcoming books list | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/19147494/prince-harry-ghostwritten-memoir-delayed/)
Perhaps his attorneys are checking some of content.  If he wrote "from an emotional place" he needs someone with his best interests in mind to review before it is released. At least I hope that is what is going on. In my opinion he can't afford to hurt the Monarchy (and all those who represent it) on such a public stage after what was said in the Oprah Interview and subsequent media articles.   
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on August 18, 2022, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on August 18, 2022, 09:05:16 PM
Perhaps his attorneys are checking some of content.  If he wrote "from an emotional place" he needs someone with his best interests in mind to review before it is released. At least I hope that is what is going on. In my opinion he can't afford to hurt the Monarchy (and all those who represent it) on such a public stage after what was said in the Oprah Interview and subsequent media articles.

Hasn't Harry and Meghan already hurt and broke the *trust* with the royal family with all their lies time and time again, heck even the archbishop had to come out and say they were *not* married before the wedding date.   In my opinion Harry and Meghan are  *hypocrites* for they did the Oprah interview while his grandfather lay dying in a hospital and then Harry turns around and goes to the funeral, nobody can spin that to make it look like they did a good thing with that interview and what is more is that, that interview is on the internet and now part of the history of the royal family forever.....that is never going away and will be talked about for many decades to come what they did. If that is not hurting/betraying the royal family I don't know what is.   
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on August 19, 2022, 01:46:14 AM
Princess Diana 'would have understood Prince William's path', biographer claims  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11124227/Princess-Diana-understood-Prince-Williams-path-biographer-claims.html)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on August 22, 2022, 02:38:46 PM
Harry and William may not reunite until memoir published so Cambridges 'know what he says' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1656535/prince-harry-and-william-may-not-reunite-until-memoir-published-so-cambridges)
What Duke of Cambridge says!! But Duke of Cambridge want truth!!

Prince Harry to discuss ?wild years? in memoir as Duke will ?focus very much on himself? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1656541/prince-harry-memoir-wild-years-meghan-markle-royal-family-spt)

Prince Harry memoir looming over Queen 'means zero chance of reconciliation' soon | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1657376/prince-harry-sussexes-bombshell-queen-elizabeth-reconcilation-autobiography)

Prince Harry's memoir fury 'only growing' at 'highest levels' of Firm | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1657594/prince-harry-memoir-fury-growing-royal-family-news)

Prince William braced for huge bombshell as Harry to make 'shock drop' on Royal Family | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1658503/prince-william-prince-harry-memoir-book-royal-family-prince-charles)

Royal family 'kept in the dark' over contents of Prince Harry's tell-all memoir - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/royal-family-kept-dark-over-27795464)
Articles says Prince Charles and Duke of Cambridge wouldn?t read books and don?t wanted heard bombshell interview since Oprah and NBC but Duke of Cambridge is right about book will be in shelves and will not forgive his father,his brother,member of royal family and grandmother the Queen Elizabeth II
QuoteThe Prince of Wales and the Duke of Cambridge, as well as their lawyers and advisors, have not seen any part of the manuscript and don't even know when the book will be published

The book is understood to have already gone through all the relevant and appropriate legal processes, and some have speculated that Penguin could opt for a "shock drop" with a number of quick bombshell allegations revealed ahead of publishing.

Prince Harry has previously said that he was "intensely focused" on getting more information surrounding the death of his mother Princess Diana for his book,

A judicial source in Paris claimed that Harry and his researchers have been seeking more information surrounding the car crash in the French capital that killed his mum.

The source told The Sun : "There have been approaches which suggest Prince Harry is intensely focused on getting more information about his mother's death.

"There are plenty of people in France who recall the night of the accident. It's only normal that Diana?s son should want to learn more about it for his book."

Prince Harry 'HASN'T given Charles or William advance copy of his memoir... but his dad doesn't want to read it anyway' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/19571830/prince-harry-memoir-charles-william-advance-copy/)

Prince Harry 'intensely focused' on investigating Diana's final moments for his new book | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/19503595/prince-harry-diana-final-moments-book/)

Prince Charles and Duke of Cambridge wouldn?t read his books due bombshell
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on September 05, 2022, 01:57:27 AM
Prince William will 'not meet Harry until his memoir is released' because he 'cannot trust him' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11179727/Prince-William-not-meet-Harry-memoir-released-trust-him.html)

Prince William and Harry 'won't talk again until after bombshell memoir is published' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-harry-wont-talk-27907530)

William and Kate half a mile from Harry and Meghan but have 'no plans to meet until bombshell memoir is released' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/19705874/william-kate-meet-harry-meghan-bombshell-memoir/)
Duke of Cambridge says he wouldn?t trust his own brother on books till release this winter for embarrassed bombshell books included HM Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles but Buckingham Palace,Kensington Palace and Clarence House wouldn?t allowed comment on Harry?s book it?s private matters
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on September 05, 2022, 01:19:32 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on September 05, 2022, 01:57:27 AM
Prince William will 'not meet Harry until his memoir is released' because he 'cannot trust him' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11179727/Prince-William-not-meet-Harry-memoir-released-trust-him.html)
Duke of Cambridge says he wouldn?t trust his own brother on books till release this winter for embarrassed bombshell books included HM Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles but Buckingham Palace,Kensington Palace and Clarence House wouldn?t allowed comment on Harry?s book it?s private matters
William has good reason to be concerned about that book. I'm sure Harry still loves his family despite the current state of their relationship.  If there is fallout, which everything suspects there will be, he will probably convince himself that he did nothing wrong and feel misunderstood and victimized.  I think his family know this and worry about what will happen next.  I am angry at him for how he has acted but I also worry about him. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on September 05, 2022, 02:17:05 PM
Meghan Markle made 'thinly veiled threats' to royals and hinted at book, says expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghan-markle-made-thinly-veiled-27909815)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on September 07, 2022, 11:10:59 PM
I wish the book was coming this year. I hope it is scathing. Awful. I really want William, Charles to finally give up hope and let go his dumaz.
 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on September 08, 2022, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on September 07, 2022, 11:10:59 PM
I wish the book was coming this year. I hope it is scathing. Awful. I really want William, Charles to finally give up hope and let go his dumaz.

I understand how you feel, but it's not a good thing for them to be embroiled in negativity- especially not now. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on September 08, 2022, 11:30:59 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on September 05, 2022, 02:17:05 PM
Meghan Markle made 'thinly veiled threats' to royals and hinted at book, says expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghan-markle-made-thinly-veiled-27909815)
She is cooking her own goose with the public. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on September 08, 2022, 11:54:27 PM
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on September 07, 2022, 11:10:59 PM
I wish the book was coming this year. I hope it is scathing. Awful. I really want William, Charles to finally give up hope and let go his dumaz.
 

The couple can keep on trashing and behaving appallingly with the entire BRF or specific individuals of the BRF.  The alleged agreed orders/modus operandi/call it as you want between Queen✝, Charles and William in reference to the couple is to invite them for the per usual ''big'' entire family gathering, like the sleep over at Balmoral (everyone went except the couple who declined) or in emergency situations like today. Neil Sean says it is all being recorded (all conversations with the Sussexes) to avoid recollections may vary or falsehoods.  Meghan was invited to go with Harry today, she was going then last minute declined, change of plans. William days ago allegedly told Harry 'let's go for a walk around Windsor grounds', to have some brothers time, Harry said 'only if Meghan comes with you and me'.

By inviting them to participate equates to being undramatic and passing the ball to the couple who RSVP or not.  Neil says the couple know they are being recorded, so there seems to be a minimization of calling out the R word. 

It will be interesting to see if Harry and Meghan participate tomorrow at the televised Privy Council and the funeral in 10 days. 

This is called the Killing with Kindness tactic.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on September 09, 2022, 12:04:41 AM
Quote from: sara8150 on September 05, 2022, 02:17:05 PM
Meghan Markle made 'thinly veiled threats' to royals and hinted at book, says expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghan-markle-made-thinly-veiled-27909815)

The author of the article of The Cut (who wrote all what Meg and Harry said, including the thinly veiled threat, recorded!) has been sent on a vacation/leave of absence and 'unpaid'.  That sounds pretty much like this black African American has been fired/markled OR protected by her Editor, allthough unpaid is absolutely not good?! Let's see, so far she hasn't tweeted her 'updated' status from the unpaid leave of absence tweet of last Friday. 

I'm not worried much, she has received hundreds of blue checkmark job offers. Her writing skill is superb.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on September 09, 2022, 12:25:44 AM
Quote from: sara8150 on September 05, 2022, 02:17:05 PM
Meghan Markle made 'thinly veiled threats' to royals and hinted at book, says expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghan-markle-made-thinly-veiled-27909815)

It would NOT surprise me if Meghan was writing her own book, after all how long was she in the royal family, decades or more to know all the ins and outs of the family and their secrets so that she can sell the stories to make more money for her bank account and that 14 bathroom home.  Nothing Meghan does will ever surprise me in the least.  Not even if something happens while in London at this moment...just waiting for the next bomb to drop on the royal family, even now because after all look what they both did while Philip lay dying and that was Harry's grandfather.....so what is their next move? I have absolutely *no* sympathy for either of them, even more so now for Harry.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on September 09, 2022, 12:37:40 AM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on September 08, 2022, 11:30:04 PM
I understand how you feel, but it's not a good thing for them to be embroiled in negativity- especially not now.

*Being embroiled in negativity* is when someone is at their weakest emotionally part of their soul.  That is when they are attacked by those out to get them and Meghan is very good at sizing people up to get what she wants as we all have seen.  I just really hope and pray that this death of his grandmother is affecting him in ways he is finally coming to terms with his decisions and behavior and is now accepting his responsibility for what he has done to his family, the royal family that he grew up in. that would be a blessing in this sad time!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on September 09, 2022, 12:46:15 AM
Neil Sean knows no more about the inner workings of the BRF than all the other tabloid hacks who pretend to know everything, including what one royal said to another. They were all singing from the same hymn sheet only two or three weeks ago that Charles and the Cambridges were determined not to have anything to do with the Sussexes or give them invitations to their homes.

Now it?s changed to Charles begging the Sussexes to stay with him and (according to Neil Sean) William asking Harry to go out into Windsor Park to have a brotherly talk, lol! So which is it, as the lot of them can?t get their story straight!

As for Harry taking part in the Accession Ceremony why would he? That ceremony is Charles?s show. Harry will be at the funeral of his grandmother though, and at his father?s Coronation.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on September 09, 2022, 12:57:58 AM
As I said, all RR's have hit or miss. I LIKE to post it to see if it becomes a Hit or Miss.

Harry is a Counsellor of State, The Telegraph article posted indicates that the royal counsellors of state will be there tomorrow to sign.  Although legally only 2 are needed. And they also said members of the BRF will also be present.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on September 10, 2022, 08:13:12 PM
Prince Harry should 're-think' publishing memoir after Queen's death to show loyalty to King Charles | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11199423/Prince-Harry-think-publishing-memoir-Queens-death-loyalty-King-Charles.html)
Duke of Sussex know better not embarrassed his father the King Charles III and his brother Prince William on tell all book royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams says memoir would be ill-advised book would be 'tasteless' and 'inappropriate' after Queen's death Royal expert Phil Dampier said it would ruin any chance of family reconciliation All-tell memoir to be released in time for Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays Book is widely anticipated to showcase the breakdown of his parents' marriage
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on September 13, 2022, 02:03:32 PM
^IF I were in Charles shoes, I wouldn't officially announce in any way shape or form the Prince/Princess titles of the Sussex children until Harry's memoir is out and the courtiers and lawyers can read the entire book.  I'd throw in also to wait and review whatever comes out in their Netflix and Spotify productions.  So that will probably take between books, TV and Listen deals about 1 year or more.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on September 13, 2022, 09:05:43 PM
Prince Harry 'WILL' release his memoir after the Queen's death | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11206707/Prince-Harry-release-memoir-Queens-death.html)
His book will release on November before thanksgiving or after thanksgiving we have wait date for announcements or till 2023 but I don?t think will embarrassed his dad the King Charles III and his brother Prince of Wales what Prince William mention says Harry?s books must be in shelves

Quotedon't publish it will be a breach of contract
Meanwhile, publishing sources have suggested that it may be pushed back to 2023 to allow Prince Harry time to write additional chapters on the passing of the Queen.

Prince Harry's memoir 'won't be published until next year' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11211729/Prince-Harrys-memoir-wont-published-year.html)
Till next year 2023

Prince Harry?s memoir to be delayed until next year in respect of the Queen?s death | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1669550/Prince-Harry-memoir-book-queen-elizabeth-ii-death-meghan-markle-update)

Prince Harry's autobiography release could be postponed after Queen's death | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1669433/Prince-Harry-autobiography-postponed-latest-queens-death)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: DaFluffs on September 19, 2022, 03:27:50 AM
I just finished reading Bower's book.  I had an opportunity to read it for free so I did.

Well - it was... interesting.  I liked the factual presentation of the material until I got to Chs 30 -35.  His claims that American welcomed the Sussexes was very wrong.  Very few follow the royal family.  I was offended at comments that we welcomed them w/open arms (I feel this country did not). 

And the comments that American viewers sided w/Meghan after the Oprah interview.  Even Stevie Wonder could see that this was a manufactured hit piece on the royals and the information was highly suspect.

I'm not sure I would recommend the book to anyone..

:happyusa:
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on September 19, 2022, 12:06:50 PM
Thank you for your review @DaFluffs and it's good to see you posting here.  :high5:  You're not the first person who's review was mixed when it came to Tom Bower's book.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Macrobug67 on September 19, 2022, 04:29:46 PM
I?m listening to it( got it free).  I?m of two minds.   Hasn?t changed my mind about Meghan and Harry.  Not a fan.   But I?m not ready to accept all Bower says without some degree of scepticism
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on September 19, 2022, 05:13:50 PM
I think the democrat and black population in majority did receive  in America with open arms.  The recent South Africa mention podcast debacle, the graphic line went down so fast in hours (I should have saved it from the blue check mark American Twitter account that works in Mackenzie in reference to 'ethnicity' related polls). Which I thoroughly believe what Mackenzie published, basically a huge amount of black people in SA then transferred to other majority black people countries were really angry. If that didn't convince, The Cut did, yikes article written just as the couple behaved with the African American Author.

His second part of the book will add people who have decided to speak out, which Tom said he couldn't yet until having it tied (safe from being sued).
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on September 19, 2022, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on May 24, 2022, 03:07:37 AM
Is Prince Harry's memoir on the shelf? No date is set for Duke's tell-all book | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10843095/Is-Prince-Harrys-memoir-shelf-No-date-set-Dukes-tell-book.html)

Prince Harry: New confusion over his 'tell-all' royal memoir | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220523140930/prince-harry-confusion-release-tell-all-royal-memoir/) [ quote]


Oh


Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on September 19, 2022, 08:32:45 PM
The publisher should put out the book byHenry of good scathing lies, half truths, juicy gossip,  fire arrows aimed at his usual targets of Charles and William by Thanksgiving. Capitalize on the death of QE. Actually, next month is better.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on September 19, 2022, 08:37:23 PM
@Curryong     I get you are Sussex fans, but you see no wrong in them. 

How do you justify?.edit
Megs? interview in The Cut?

Henry loss his father too.
Well no contract was signed so she will hint hint?.speak ?more?

These were her own words. The entire interview. No out of context here.

Henrys book is going to be a good one to knock, QEs legacy of 70 years off a bit and aim torpedos right at King Charles and William.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on September 20, 2022, 05:54:35 PM
Ex-Vanity Fair editor Tina Brown says Prince Harry 'has a role to play' in Royal Family | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11230927/Ex-Vanity-Fair-editor-Tina-Brown-says-Prince-Harry-role-play-Royal-Family.html)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on September 20, 2022, 06:19:41 PM
Very difficult contractual situation. If he desists with the book, he would have to return moneys (and with interests if mentioned in any part of the contract), If he goes forward and there is 'more trashing of the royals that count-Charles, Camilla, William and Kate/the purchase bate, trashing a minor royal is blah, is there more of that burnt bridge to burn! Really!  :happy15:

Not likely (but there is a small window) the publishers desist, and pays/settles with Harry the USD20Million for the 4 books he had signed up for, plus an extra bonus for what he had intended for charity.

IMO the book will be published, the question is when. Then also, when the BRF read it as they allegedly have been denied to read the final draft and henceforth 'right to reply', both the above parties already know the BRF are lawyered up.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on September 25, 2022, 03:19:49 AM
Discussion on the upcoming releases by Valentine Low and Katie Nicholl which cover the wider BRF and their courtiers  have been moved to this thread in the Modern Monarchies Forum.

Books About Royals (http://www.royalinsight.net/forum/index.php?topic=95305.msg1510937#msg1510937)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on October 16, 2022, 03:37:17 PM
I'm nervous about this book, as I heard that in it he trashes his stepmother. Perhaps this is not true, as so many items we hear and read are not. But if it is true, I can't imagine what he has to say negative about her. Back in the late 2000-oughts I listened to an interview in which he said she wasn't a negative stepmother and that he and William "love her to bits" - he even added that he was pleased at how happy she makes his father. Has she does something since then to tick him off that we don't know about? Perhaps. That's why I'm dreading it. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on October 17, 2022, 11:45:18 AM
not at all. All that has happened is that Charles has stopped paying for Harry and H may reckon that he can make his money by talking about his family, including Camilla and attacking them.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 17, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the alleged last chapter/Queen's death/Funeral is a moan fest in Harry's book.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on October 22, 2022, 02:57:28 PM
Meghan Markle stood by silently as her handler furiously demanded a private table at New York City's Michelin-starred Le Coucou in 2017, according to a new book.

Former maitre d' Michael Cecchi-Azzolina, who worked at the restaurant for two and a half years, claims the star-turned-royal required a table because 'it's for someone who is dating a prince.

'I said, 'I still don't have a private table for you,'' he wrote in his upcoming memoir, 'Your Table is Ready: Tales of a New York City Maitre D.'

Markle and her handler arrived at the restaurant 20 minutes early for their reservation and were subsequently aggressive with staff.

'Are you aware my guest is dating Prince Harry and about to be a duchess?' Cecchi-Azzolina recalls the handler asking. 'Don't you have a private area for us to wait?

'My first impulse was to laugh. I could give two s**ts about Prince Harry's date, and by the attention the escort was drawing from the crowd at the bar, nor did anyone else.'

During the encounter, Markle reportedly 'didn't say a word' and was described by Cecchi-Azzolina as 'aloof.'

Former maitre d' claims Meghan Markle stood 'silent' while 'irate handler' demanded private table | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11343473/Former-maitre-d-claims-Meghan-Markle-stood-silent-irate-handler-demanded-private-table.html)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 22, 2022, 04:27:20 PM
Any proof of this tale being offered by this man who worked at a restaurant for a little over two years and comes up with this story now? We all know that the Fail pays for so-called stories. Meghan may very well not have been in NY at that time anyway. She worked in Canada and more or less divided her time between Canada and LA in 2017. Good one Fail, this just appearing at a time when James Cordon, a Briton associated with Harry, is embroiled in a story about bad behaviour in a restaurant!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 22, 2022, 05:37:06 PM
The eye catching extracts of Meghan, James Corden, Anna Wintour, Naomi Campbell...bad behaviours in a public place, but his memoir spans his experiences from his university days (Florida and Harvard) to 2011 onward in (all) very famous restaurants where the rich and famous attend.

(The author is doing smart PR, for the British media, I'll give you extracts of the wife of a British royal plus 3 more bad behaving Brits.  Breaking: James is being cancelled in the USA, selling his LA home and coming back to old blighty)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 22, 2022, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 22, 2022, 05:37:06 PM
The eye catching extracts of Meghan, James Corden, Anne Wintor, Naomi Cambell...bad behaviours in a public place, but his memoir spans his experiences from his university days (Florida and Harvard) to 2011 onward in (all) very famous restaurants where the rich and famous attend.

So he?s writing this book out of a spirit of public service not because he may well wish to make any money for his retirement from his reminiscences of these restaurants? Oh pleeze! I?m sure people are vitally interested in this man?s University years! And there?s no embroidery of any incidents with customers at this restaurant at all. No, of course not! And I?d like to know how much the Fail (at the moment embroiled in a historic law suit with Harry) paid for this pile of er clickbait.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 22, 2022, 05:46:03 PM
He's not retiring, he's opening his own restaurant. The book is being launched with the opening of the restaurant.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 22, 2022, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 22, 2022, 05:46:03 PM
He's not retiring, he's opening his own restaurant. The book is being launched with the opening of the restaurant.

Whatever! He needs extra money and intends to make some out of this book and his so-called unembroidered reminiscences of his working life. And he has no verifiable proof of any of his allegations.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 22, 2022, 05:52:48 PM
That and using his MD in English/Education/Theatre/Arts
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 22, 2022, 05:54:03 PM
The news of James Corden (which I?m sure the ever grubby Fail is delighted to print in its everlasting quest for scandalous clickbait) is old news. All of it I read some time ago.

So? This man is an educated university graduate who chose to be a Ma?tre d in restaurants. Whoopy do! And That certainly doesn?t mean that he?s incapable of spreading lies and gossip in order to sell his book. Or that Britain?s most disgusting tabloid isn?t ever eager to assist.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 22, 2022, 06:04:41 PM
As for Piers Morgan. An interesting article from earlier this year about his career for Murdoch and his TV channel which has not been a glowing success it seems.

Goodbye to the age of rage: why Piers Morgan?s outrage journalism is flopping | John Harris | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/22/goodbye-to-the-age-of-rage-why-piers-morgans-outrage-journalism-is-flopping)



Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 22, 2022, 06:12:20 PM
James cancelled isn't a time ago. It's just yesterday after a barrage of service industries cancelled him. He will probably have to hire a private jet IF British Airways the loner doesn't cancel him too. The guy was okay until security tapes in public places were disclosed via social media. Repeated offender.

Michael the Maitre D
It's a job that clearly he enjoys 2011 onward (work experience).

Very likely the contact book of the who is who and private events that Maitre D's organize. This french fancy word is for Restaurant and Corporate Manager of the Hotel, Restaurant and the sort. I think from what I've read is his preference is politicians. Ruthless probably, politicians may get you here there rather than celebs.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 22, 2022, 06:21:19 PM
For those who don't know, a Maitre D is a legal job and protected by labour law worldwide, more details of the top job can be found in the Service and Hospitality Industry.

Job description
The Restaurant Manager/Supervisor can often be referred to as the Maitre d'hotel or Maitre d' for short. They have the overall responsibility for the running and organisation of the restaurant or hotel. They can also be responsible for the administration work in this area also.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 22, 2022, 06:54:57 PM
By the way, as this June article points out Corden announced in April 2022/that his tenure in the US on the Late Late Show on TV would be ending.

James Corden to return to the UK after finishing 'The Late Late Show' (https://www.nme.com/news/tv/james-corden-return-uk-the-late-late-show-3247358)

And the news that he and his family would be returning to the UK to live came out at around the same time. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 26, 2022, 08:40:18 PM
The New York Times
@nytimes
Prince Harry's memoir has a publication date, after months of frenzied speculation: Jan. 10, 2023. He has gotten cold feet about the book's contents at various points, industry executives with knowledge of the process told The New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/books/prince-harry-memoir.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on October 27, 2022, 02:20:35 AM
Prince Harry's bombshell memoir will be released on January 10th | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11358337/Prince-Harrys-bombshell-memoir-released-January-10th-industry-insiders-reveal.html)

Royal authors warn Duke's delayed book will make King Charles 'nervous' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11360189/Royal-authors-warn-Dukes-delayed-book-make-King-Charles-nervous.html)

The meaning behind Prince Harry's decision to call his memoir 'Spare' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11360881/Prince-Harrys-decision-call-memoir-Spare-shows-angered-term-experts-claim.html)

Tortured history of 'the heir and the spare' after Prince Harry teased his long-awaited memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11360867/Tortured-history-heir-spare-Prince-Harry-teased-long-awaited-memoir.html)

Prince Harry will give ?1.6m from sales of memoir 'Spare' to two UK children's charities | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11360625/Prince-Harry-1-6m-sales-memoir-Spare-two-UK-childrens-charities.html)

Prince Harry's memoir is ALREADY being advertised for half-price at ?14 by WHSmith | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11362149/Prince-Harrys-memoir-advertised-half-price-14-WHSmith.html)

DAN WOOTTON: Months after the Queen's death, Prince Harry's Me Me Me-moir to bring down royal family | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11362181/DAN-WOOTTON-Months-Queens-death-Prince-Harrys-moir-bring-royal-family.html)

Royals 'dreading' Harry book: Prince's 416-page memoir 'is critical of everyone and everything' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11363005/Royals-dreading-Harry-book-Princes-416-page-memoir-critical-everything.html)

Experts warn the Sussexes risk becoming 'boring' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11364379/Experts-warn-Sussexes-risk-boring.html)

PLATELL'S PEOPLE: Is Prince Harry any better than Netflix, the way he milks the royals? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11366879/PLATELLS-PEOPLE-Prince-Harry-better-Netflix-way-milks-royals.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop)

From Andrew to Harry, the history of 'spare' kings stuck in understudy | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-11361557/From-Andrew-Harry-history-spare-kings-stuck-understudy.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop)

Prince Harry's Memoir to Be Released in January: Report (https://people.com/royals/prince-harrys-memoir-release-date-reportedly-january/)

Prince Harry Reveals Title and Book Jacket Photo for Memoir: See Cover (https://people.com/royals/spare-the-title-of-prince-harrys-memoir-revealed/)

Prince Harry's Memoir: Inside the Meaning of Spare Title (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-memoir-spare-inside-title-meaning/)

Prince Harry Will Talk About Walking Behind Princess Diana's Coffin in New Book (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-memoir-discuss-walking-behind-princess-diana-coffin-funeral/)

Prince Harry Book: How Much Money Will Duke of Sussex Make from Spare? (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-book-how-much-money-will-he-make-charity-donations/)

Prince Harry Book Will Acknowledge Queen Elizabeth Death (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-acknowledge-queen-elizabeth-death-upcoming-memoir-spare/)

Everything Prince Harry's memoir Spare will cover: all the details | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20221027155366/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-memoir-spare-details/)

Prince Harry reveals how he will spend first ?2million from Spare memoir | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20221027155404/prince-harry-charity-donations-from-spare-proceeds/)

Prince Harry's book Spare: The 2023 release date, pre-order details, price & voice over news - DETAILS | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20221028155431/prince-harry-book-spare-details-release-date/)

Kate Middleton's connection to Prince Harry's memoir 'Spare' revealed | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20221028155425/prince-harry-memoir-kate-middleton-birthday-release-date/)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63413586

Prince Harry's new book SPARE is out in January - and takes readers back to one of 'most searing images of the twentieth century' | Ents & Arts News | (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harrys-new-book-title-and-release-date-revealed-12731369)

Harry writing a book was controversial enough - but the title is another stab at the firm | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/harry-writing-a-book-was-controversial-enough-but-the-title-is-another-stab-at-the-firm-12731436)

Prince Harry?s ?unflinching? memoir, Spare, to be published in January | Books | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/oct/27/prince-harry-unflinching-memoir-spare-to-be-published-in-january)

People are going spare about Prince Harry?s memoir. Just don?t ask them why | Marina Hyde | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/28/spare-prince-harry-memoir-sussexes)

Prince Harry?s explosive memoir release date revealed after months of speculation | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688243/Prince-Harry-memoir-release-date-confirmed-contents)

Prince Harry memoir: Book to be 'cynical' and 'derogatory' as new details released | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688503/prince-harry-memoir-latest-release-date-royal-family)

Prince Harry launches new website for tell-all memoir as he reveals ?1.3million donation | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688440/prince-harry-memoir-website-duke-of-sussex-book-spare-release-date)

Prince Harry to focus on 'feelings of inadequacy within Royal Family' in new memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688545/prince-harry-memoir-latest-details-penguin-random-house-royal-family)

Prince Harry will read audiobook of his memoir which promises to be 'candid and powerful' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688463/Prince-Harry-memoir-title-name-audiobook-release-date)

Meghan Markle's photographer behind cover photo of Prince Harry's new book 'Spare' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688469/meghan-markle-prince-harry-book-spare-released-meghan-Variety-Power-of-Women)

?What a d**khead!? Piers Morgan slams Prince Harry as he 'plays the victim' with new book | Celebrity News | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1688466/piers-morgan-prince-harry-strip-titles-king-charles-new-memoir-book-spare-twitter)

Prince Harry book: Memoir fears as Duke warned of 'catastrophic' impact on Royal Family | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688751/prince-harry-book-royal-family-meghan-markle-duke-duchess-sussex-titles)

Prince Harry's book already selling for half price at Waterstones - months before release | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688714/prince-harry-book-half-price-waterstones-release-date-publication)

Prince Harry tipped to give interviews about book as Palace will be 'very worried' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688641/prince-harry-memoir-book-spare-royal-family-meghan-markle)

Prince Harry 'still full of resentment' and Spare book title 'desperately sad' says expert | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688669/prince-harry-news-book-title-spare-release-date-publication-royal-family)

'Everyone's dreading it': Palace on red alert over Harry's new book announcement | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688762/Prince-Harry-spare-book-Buckingham-palace-reaction)
Good lord!! I?m sure King Charles and Prince William will not read this books and embarrassed about that its private business and also private matters

Prince Harry and William rift ?won?t be healed? by Duke of Sussex bombshell book | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688704/prince-harry-spare-prince-William-rift-not-healed-duke-of-sussex-new-book)

Prince Harry 'donating some proceeds' to charity as Spare tipped to be 'bestseller' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688689/prince-harry-memoir-spare-book-release-date-charity-latest-vn)

Prince Harry latest news: New details of Duke of Sussex's memoir betray 'deep shame' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688938/prince-harry-latest-news-memoir-spare-title-full-details-angela-levin-royal-family)

Harry accused of 'stealing limelight' after memoir release clashes with Kate's big day | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688882/prince-harry-memoir-latest-kate-middleton-princess-of-wales-spare-details-royal-family)

'William and Charles get on with it!': Jennie Bond hits out at Prince Harry's complaining | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688873/King-Charles-Prince-William-Harry-Spare-Jennie-Bond-BBC-Breakfast-memoir-latest-vn)

Prince Harry's bombshell book 'hugely damaging' to Royal Family and King Charles | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688986/Prince-Harry-memoir-spare-Royal-Family-book-King-Charles-Meghan-Markle-palace-vn)

Prince Harry's memoir could be 'final torching' of 'rickety bridges' with King Charles and | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688977/prince-harry-memoir-meghan-markle-king-charles-prince-william-royal-family-latest)

Prince Harry will ?jeopardise the future for his children? as memoir to sever family ties | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688924/Prince-Harry-memoir-Royal-Family-children-release-date-King-Charles-Palace-vn)

Prince Harry in danger of 'total exclusion' from Royal Family over 'unflinching' memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688910/prince-harry-memoir-royal-family-total-exclusion-dxus)

Prince Harry's memoir 'going to be desperate' as Duke of Sussex 'has chip on shoulder' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688906/Prince-Harry-memoir-book-Royal-Family-Duke-Sussex-reaction-latest-news-vn)

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-10-27/date-set-for-prince-harrys-bombshell-memoir-spare

Prince Harry bombshell memoir release date is finally announced after autumn delay - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-bombshell-memoir-release-28338498)

Eight bombshells Prince Harry could drop in book - racism, rifts and Balmoral row - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/eight-bombshells-prince-harry-could-28343005)

Prince Harry reveals first details of memoir including bitter title and striking cover photo - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/breaking-prince-harry-reveals-first-28341421)

Prince Harry confirms how much he was paid for memoir - and what he's doing with it - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-confirms-how-much-28341616)

Harry's book has different title in Spain that's even darker than 'confrontational' UK name - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harrys-book-different-title-spain-28342490)

Waterstones and WHSmith slash price of Prince Harry's memoir - before it hits shelves - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/waterstones-whsmith-slash-price-prince-28343141)

'Flabbergasted' insiders say Harry's memoir title is 'confrontational attack on royals' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/flabbergasted-insiders-say-harrys-memoir-28341789)

Prince Harry registered memoir website just days after seeing royals at Queen's Jubilee - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-launches-website-confirms-28341928)

Will you read Prince Harry?s tell-all memoir? - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/you-read-prince-harrys-tell-28340447)
You will buy Harry?s new book or NO!! I will get that books on Nook

Royals weren't told 'nuclear' title of Prince Harry's book before it was announced - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/royals-werent-told-nuclear-title-28350659)

Prince Harry's book title's controversial meaning - and why it sets him part from William - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-book-titles-controversial-28351566)

Release date of Prince Harry?s 'explosive' memoir 'confirmed' by publishing industry insiders | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20235699/date-prince-harrys-explosive-memoir-released/)

Prince Harry reveals name of his explosive ?35m memoir as he tells his story 'at last? with ?raw & unflinching honesty? | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20240142/prince-harry-reveals-name-explosive-memoir/)

Secret plan behind release of Prince Harry's explosive memoir & why launch may spark Kate clash, according to expert | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20239504/secret-plan-harry-memoir-expert/)

Clue in Prince Harry?s memoir that exposes his ?deep shame?, according to expert who reveals why book is so 'nasty' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20242848/clue-prince-harry-memoir-expose-nasty/)

Waterstones announces that it's selling Prince Harry's memoir for half price already - months before it's even released | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20241106/waterstones-slashes-price-prince-harry/)

Telling date Prince Harry's explosive memoir will be released - and the nine questions he must truthfully answer | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20237431/prince-harrys-memoir-released-questions-answered/)

Prince Harry will read audiobook version of his bombshell memoir - and reveals what he?ll do with proceeds | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20240333/prince-harry-read-memoir-audiobook/)

Prince Harry's book is 'money making muck' that'll ruin Charles' coronation - he must be stripped of titles, says Piers | The (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20240509/prince-harrys-book-muck-piers-morgan/)

Prince Harry's explosive memoir has a different title in Spain - and it's even darker than the UK version | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20243545/prince-harry-explosive-memoir-spain-title/)

Prince Harry branded 'pathetic' after calling his tell-all book Spare in a dig over his lower Royal position | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20247702/prince-harry-branded-pathetic-calling-book-spare/)

Prince Harry?s 'calculated' memoir is 'poisonous to royals' and could force Charles into drastic action, expert claims | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20250938/prince-harry-meghan-markle-royals-book-spare-tom-bower/)

Who is the author ghostwriting Prince Harry's memoir? | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15636915/ghostwriting-author-prince-harry-book-who/)

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/prince-harrys-memoir-spare-released-january-10-2023-92149404

Prince Harry's Memoir: When Is It Coming Out And What Will It Say? (https://www.today.com/popculture/books/prince-harry-memoir-details-release-date-rcna47141)

Prince Harry's memoir, titled "Spare," is coming out Jan. 10: "This is his story at last" - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-memoir-spare-january-10/)

Prince Harry?s memoir 'Spare' can 'be a danger? to the royal family, expert says | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-memoir-spare-danger-royal-family-experts-say-reaction)

Prince Harry's memoir, 'Spare,' set to be released in January | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-memoir-set-released-january)

Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace will not comment on Duke of Sussex?s book but will kept private matters and embarrassed King Charles and Prince William as moderator for Sussex please stay topics and stay thread comments but no negative comments please but stay positive comment 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on October 27, 2022, 12:28:34 PM
The book is reportedly entitled  "Spare".
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 12:36:18 PM
What a title. Talk about living in the past.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 12:54:27 PM
That?s how he was referred to in the Press and media until George was born. Andrew was known as the spare in newspapers and magazines until George?s birth. Margaret was known as ?the Spare?. As Charlotte grows up she may will be the same.

Harry will probably be referring back to his earliest memories and then move forward.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 27, 2022, 01:16:52 PM
IMO something drastic changed for that new title.  I guess we will know by 2023.

The Prince I Was Born, The Man I Became seemed to have been the previous choice.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on October 27, 2022, 01:21:42 PM
I wonder if the cover photo was taken by the same photographer  who took Meghan's picture for The Cut interview?

Prince Harry has  made  donations from the advance that he was paid by Penguin Random House.

QuoteHarry was reportedly paid a $20million (?18.4m) advance for the book as part of a three-title deal worth ?36.8m. Today, publisher Penguin Random House said the duke had donated $1.5m (?1.3m) to children's charity Sentebale and ?300,000 to WellChild, a charity for disabled children which he serves as patron.

UK bookseller Waterstones is already offering it at 50% off if anyone wishes to make a purchase now.

https://www.waterstones.com/book/spare/prince-harry/9780857504791


QuoteHardback 416 Pages / Published: 10/01/2023   

    Save ?14.00 Coming soon

Awaiting publication
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on October 27, 2022, 02:33:16 PM
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/27/11/63902395-11360547-image-a-18_1666865642046.jpg)

Spare: Prince Harry The Duke of Sussex: 9780593593806: Amazon.com: Books (https://www.amazon.com/Spare-Prince-Harry-Duke-Sussex/dp/0593593804/ref=sr_1_2?crid=13UR55DIVEL97&keywords=Spare&qid=1667278121&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjEwIiwicXNhIjoiMS4wOSIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDkifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=spare%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-2)
Amazon is handbook $25.20 handbook and Kindle is $17.99 audiobooks is no charge is fees

Spare eBook : Prince Harry The Duke of Sussex: Amazon.co.uk: Kindle Store (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spare-Prince-Harry-Duke-Sussex-ebook/dp/B0BJV8XM2W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5I51Y0J5RM4Q&keywords=Spare&qid=1667278656&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjAzIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=spare%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-1)

Barnes and Noble
Hardcover is $25.20 E-book know as Nook $17.99 audiobooks is no charges fees
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/spare-prince-harry-the-duke-of-sussex/1142564630?ean=9780593593806

https://www.booksamillion.com/p/Spare/Prince-Harry-Duke-Sussex/9780593593806?oxid=1333&oxname=harry&oxpage=home&oxpos=top&oxdate=102822
$24.70

https://www.waterstones.com/book/spare/prince-harry-the-duke-of-sussex/9780857504791
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 27, 2022, 03:31:41 PM
For those interested in the UK, promotional half price by purchasing here

https://www.waterstones.com/book/spare/prince-harry/9780857504791
From full price GBP28 to GBP14
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 27, 2022, 03:37:17 PM
Harry's own memoir website
Prince Harry Memoir (https://princeharrymemoir.com/)

For those who prefer to purchase the audio book, Harry is the voice!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 27, 2022, 10:49:22 PM
''A spokesman for the King declined to comment last night. But it is understood that the Royal Household has already been warned that the 416-page, GBP28 book is 'critical of everyone and everything'''

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Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 27, 2022, 10:49:22 PM
''A spokesman for the King declined to comment last night. But it is understood that the Royal Household has already been warned that the 416-page, GBP28 book is 'critical of everyone and everything'''

💀💀🦨

We will have fun  :bday: at the RIF

This spokesman (if there genuinely is one and not an imaginary friend of the journalist reporting it) has read the book cover to cover, I dare say!
Expecting to have more fun criticising Harry for every word are we? What about praise in the book for his parents and grandparents? That will go unnoticed, I?ll bet!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:06:23 PM
Harry could have been a supportive son and brother, like Edward and Anne to the Queen and Charles, but instead has gone down this bitter and twisted road.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 11:16:15 PM
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:06:23 PM
Harry could have been a supportive son and brother, like Edward and Anne to the Queen and Charles, but instead has gone down this bitter and twisted road.

How about reading the book first before characterising anyone as bitter and twisted.

And the above point of view rests upon people feeling that their life?s work and whole purpose is in supporting a brother or parent simply because of the position in which they were born, only to be put on the back burner when the new heirs grow up.

I think it?s notable that out of the Queen?s eight grandchildren only William is in fulltime royal life. And the Wessex children look as if they are going to follow their Tindall, Phillips, York relatives rather than follow the royal rota as well. As no doubt will Charlotte and Louis.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:25:40 PM
I agree we have to read the book but he didn't get a 20 million dollar advance to just say nice things about everyone.

Every monarchy in Europe has a hierarchy. If Harry walked away and led a quiet life, I think people would be supportive. But what's up with all the interviews and books?

I don't understand what his core complaint is.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 11:28:52 PM
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:25:40 PM
I agree we have to read the book but he didn't get a 20 million dollar advance to just say nice things about everyone.

Every monarchy in Europe has a hierarchy. If Harry walked away and led a quiet life, I think people would be supportive. But what's up with all the interviews and books?

I don't understand what his core complaint is.

All what books? As far as I know neither Harry nor Meghan have written a load of books. Or even one, bar this yet to be published autobiography.

Well perhaps we?ll all read about it when the book comes out. And I?m not suggesting that Harry is going to say everyone is wonderful. I just doubt that he will say that everyone is diabolical either.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 11:16:15 PM
As no doubt will Charlotte and Louis.

Just because Harry walked away doesn't mean Charlotte and Louis will abandon William and George. They may very well want to support the monarchy.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:37:02 PM
Quote from: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 11:28:52 PM
All what books? As far as I know neither Harry nor Meghan have written a load of books. Or even one, bar this yet to be published autobiography.

I thought I read today it's a 3 book deal Harry signed.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 11:49:22 PM
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:37:02 PM
I thought I read today it's a 3 book deal Harry signed.

Yes but the other two are I believe self help books about mental health. I have read that Harry wanted Spare to be mostly about his mental health journey from his teens onwards but the publishers didn?t want that.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 28, 2022, 12:36:20 AM
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on October 27, 2022, 11:29:37 PM
Just because Harry walked away doesn't mean Charlotte and Louis will abandon William and George. They may very well want to support the monarchy.

That hasn?t happened in the younger ranks of other royal families though. Almost all siblings of other monarchs have gone into private life. And the BRF seems to be intending to slim it down in the future in the pattern of other European and Scandi monarchies.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 28, 2022, 01:10:20 AM

Chapter 1: I was born into a family of multi millionaires. My parents own 8 houses. I attended the best school in the UK. I have never been short of money and have, within reasons, been able to do whatever I want. But life has been hard, I'm telling you.

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Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 28, 2022, 01:32:42 AM
Quote from: wannable on October 28, 2022, 01:10:20 AM
Chapter 1: I was born into a family of multi millionaires. My parents own 8 houses. I attended the best school in the UK. I have never been short of money and have, within reasons, been able to do whatever I want. But life has been hard, I'm telling you.

World Problem
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I don?t care what?s trending on Twitter, especially regarding something that hasn?t even been published yet.

And, as we?ve seen from the experiences of countless people all over the world, being born into families of great wealth, status and privilege, whether royal or not, does not guarantee that you will never suffer great heartache or encounter trauma or death, or have parents who didn?t devote as much time to you when growing up as they could have or should have. There are many many examples reaching back centuries.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on October 28, 2022, 05:18:07 AM
Quote from: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 11:16:15 PM
How about reading the book first before characterising anyone as bitter and twisted.

And the above point of view rests upon people feeling that their life?s work and whole purpose is in supporting a brother or parent simply because of the position in which they were born, only to be put on the back burner when the new heirs grow up.

I think it?s notable that out of the Queen?s eight grandchildren only William is in fulltime royal life. And the Wessex children look as if they are going to follow their Tindall, Phillips, York relatives rather than follow the royal rota as well. As no doubt will Charlotte and Louis.

That is the choice of the grandchildren's parents, not anyone else.   Andrew wanted his daughters to be working for the Firm yet the family/firm decided otherwise,  Anne and Edward I think had the insight to know that the monarchy could not have the entire family working for the Firm, after all there is the public to consider also, so they made choices for their children to be have a career of their own.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on October 28, 2022, 05:33:31 AM
Quote from: Curryong on October 27, 2022, 11:16:15 PM
How about reading the book first before characterising anyone as bitter and twisted.

And the above point of view rests upon people feeling that their life?s work and whole purpose is in supporting a brother or parent simply because of the position in which they were born, only to be put on the back burner when the new heirs grow up.

I think it?s notable that out of the Queen?s eight grandchildren only William is in fulltime royal life. And the Wessex children look as if they are going to follow their Tindall, Phillips, York relatives rather than follow the royal rota as well. As no doubt will Charlotte and Louis.

For me personally, I don't need to read the book to see what kind of *man* Harry professes to be, his actions, behavior and decisions say it *ALL* for me.   What he has done in the last few years with the hell he created for his grandparents at their age and his entire family with his wife lying and him telling lies over and over again tells me what this book is all about, just the look on his face shows his rage, his anger , his bitterness, his meanness and his spitefulness towards his family.  NOT any family in the entire world is perfect yet he thinks he and Meghan are that way as their actions/behavior says that. I just pity him for he could of done so much to help others and now all that he did before is slowly being in time canceled out by what he is doing now and has done since he left the royal family.  If this is as bad as everyone thinks, then there will be no turning back ever for him and his family, after all they have Hollywood and corporate America to keep them in money.    Many royals members of royal families have left and established careers and worked outside the royal family and done great, yet I have not read of one that has trashed their family to hell and back the way Harry and Meghan have...... Harry is a small man stuck in  a tiny box of hate and anger that will in time eat him up till there is nothing left........he is a danger to himself only he does not realize it yet.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 28, 2022, 11:43:01 AM
Quote from: Curryong on October 28, 2022, 01:32:42 AM
I don?t care what?s trending on Twitter, especially regarding something that hasn?t even been published yet.

And, as we?ve seen from the experiences of countless people all over the world, being born into families of great wealth, status and privilege, whether royal or not, does not guarantee that you will never suffer great heartache or encounter trauma or death, or have parents who didn?t devote as much time to you when growing up as they could have or should have. There are many many examples reaching back centuries.

Harry has caused great heartache. There is no excuse for what he has done. Too late. He deserves to be mocked and what I wrote is very mild about his privilege, the other trending Harry stuff liked by the thousands is very much stronger words. That clearly thousands are upset with his behavior.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 28, 2022, 08:40:12 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 28, 2022, 11:43:01 AM
Harry has caused great heartache. There is no excuse for what he has done. Too late. He deserves to be mocked and what I wrote is very mild about his privilege, the other trending Harry stuff liked by the thousands is very much stronger words. That clearly thousands are upset with his behavior.

There are certainly thousands of keyboard warriors all over the world who love to criticise other people (not just Harry) for everything from statements, actions, clothing, writings (look at what JK Rowling has received about transgender persons) and for just being convenient whipping boys and girls. Would these warriors? own lives stand up to microscopic scrutiny? Extremely doubtful! That?s the joy of being anonymous on Twitter. And this book isn?t even published yet. Just one word has set these ever present critics off!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on October 28, 2022, 09:27:20 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 27, 2022, 10:49:22 PM
''A spokesman for the King declined to comment last night. But it is understood that the Royal Household has already been warned that the 416-page, GBP28 book is 'critical of everyone and everything'''

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Yes its private matters and it?s private business but Buckingham Palace,Clarence House and Kensington Palace have no comment on Harry?s memoir books not without King and William?s attorney present to read remember in past Daily Mail and express says William must directly Harry?s memoir books in the stores
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 28, 2022, 10:02:29 PM
His income is trashing his family, so yes the keyboard warrior can like any criticism thrown to him.

That is what the like button is for.  Spare me the thought these thousands of people actually liked his permanent victimhood lifestyle.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on October 29, 2022, 03:58:17 AM
I don't take anything I read in the media for gospel, but as of today we are told the book is full of complaints and criticisms. If he airs more dirty linen in the public eye he might as well plan on saying goodbye to his family. Then he can really play the victim.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 29, 2022, 06:06:03 AM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on October 29, 2022, 03:58:17 AM
I don't take anything I read in the media for gospel, but as of today we are told the book is full of complaints and criticisms. If he airs more dirty linen in the public eye he might as well plan on saying goodbye to his family. Then he can really play the victim.

?We are told? by whom? People in the Royal Households venting to journalists and following their own agenda but who haven?t read the book, tabloid journalists following the same negative route who are just guessing, people at the publishing House who may not necessarily have read the whole book? Who? Let?s not forget, nothing is out there yet, though the carping has certainly already begun.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 29, 2022, 01:13:21 PM
After 3 years of Harry (and wife too) trashing his family, it's human nature to think the book will be the same stuff.

^ I like your window of hope though.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on October 29, 2022, 01:52:41 PM
Quote from: Curryong on October 29, 2022, 06:06:03 AM
?We are told? by whom? People in the Royal Households venting to journalists and following their own agenda but who haven?t read the book, tabloid journalists following the same negative route who are just guessing, people at the publishing House who may not necessarily have read the whole book? Who? Let?s not forget, nothing is out there yet, though the carping has certainly already begun.
Are you kidding? It's everywhere. I don't believe much of what I read and hear but when he was asked about it last year he responded that it is his story and he has the right to tell it. Sorry I can't find the exact quote. If this book does not air more dirty linen and victimhood I will be very pleasantly pleased.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on October 29, 2022, 02:07:20 PM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on October 29, 2022, 01:52:41 PM
Are you kidding? It's everywhere. I don't believe much of what I read and hear but when he was asked about it last year he responded that it is his story and he has the right to tell it. Sorry I can't find the exact quote. If this book does not air more dirty linen and victimhood I will be very pleasantly pleased.

I personally basing my own opinion of what is likely to be shared in the book after listening to and reading Prince Harry's statements regarding his life,  family, the British monarchy and people since he chose to step back from senior royal duties in January 2020. I am also considering the actions that he's taken after making statements as well ie: stating how much love and respect he held for his paternal grandparents but then going ahead with the Oprah interview in March 2021 and later choosing not to accept invitations to spend time with the Queen after the COVID restrictions were lifted.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on October 29, 2022, 06:39:20 PM
Prince William 'has barely spoken' to Prince Harry since news broke of Spare | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11368479/Prince-William-barely-spoken-Prince-Harry-news-broke-Spare.html)

Harry's book 'bound to distress' Royal Family as Prince to 'open up about his childhood' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689442/prince-harry-news-memoir-book-distress-royal-family-spare)

Prince Harry's memoir announcement met with ridicule on leading US TV show | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689326/Prince-Harry-Spare-memoir-Duke-Sussex-Fox-News-US-Meghan-Markle-latest-vn)

Prince Harry's staff feared memoir 'would be disastrous for couple' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689300/prince-harry-meghan-markle-tell-all-bombshell-memoir-book-spare-duke-duchess-sussex-vn)

'Under no circumstances!' Harry poised to hit back at Palace decision | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1688833/royal-family-live-prince-harry-memoir-book-king-charles-william-meghan-markle-latest)

Prince Harry accused of 'monetising his grief' after release of details about 'Spare' book | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689335/prince-harry-news-duke-of-sussex-book-spare-prince-william-princess-diana-netflix)

William ?has barely spoken to Harry' since memoir news as Royal Family on ?tenterhooks' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/william-has-barely-spoken-harry-28359780)

'Prince Harry will never spare us his incessant, self-indulgent whingeing' - Rachael Bletchly - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-never-spare-incessant-28359807)

King Charles could strip Prince Harry & Meghan Markle of titles over fears they'll go 'fully rogue' in explosive memoir | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20263408/king-could-strip-harry-meghan-titles-memoir/)

Prince William 'has barely spoken to Harry after news of upcoming memoir' as family wait on 'tenterhooks' to read it | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20260533/prince-william-harry-barely-spoken-memoir-news/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on October 29, 2022, 08:40:12 PM
Quote from: TLLK on October 29, 2022, 02:07:20 PM
I personally basing my own opinion of what is likely to be shared in the book after listening to and reading Prince Harry's statements regarding his life,  family, the British monarchy and people since he chose to step back from senior royal duties in January 2020. I am also considering the actions that he's taken after making statements as well ie: stating how much love and respect he held for his paternal grandparents but then going ahead with the Oprah interview in March 2021 and later choosing not to accept invitations to spend time with the Queen after the COVID restrictions were lifted.
Yes, you are right. It is best to listen to what is said and see what a person does, and then judge for yourself.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 30, 2022, 12:39:03 AM
So what else is new? William has reportedly hardly spoken to Harry since the Foundation was split in 2019. In spite of media going on and on about ?olive branches? being extended? etc.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on October 30, 2022, 01:24:02 AM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on October 29, 2022, 08:40:12 PM
Yes, you are right. It is best to listen to what is said and see what a person does, and then judge for yourself.

Totally agree with you, as my sister used to say to me.........we all speak words yet our *actions* speak louder then words.   All the wonderful things done by Harry and Meghan in the  past will in time become unknown  and be deleted from their lives all because of the actions/choices/decisions they have made since leaving the royal family because we humans read what is *up front in the news now* not something that happened years or decades ago.  If more humans read their history and learned from it, then the world would be a better place for all of us.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on October 30, 2022, 08:36:58 PM
Prince Harry wrote memoir because he couldn't 'keep trying to make his family happy,' source claims | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11370409/Prince-Harry-wrote-memoir-trying-make-family-happy-source-claims.html)

Prince Harry asked his friends and ex-girlfriends to feature in his upcoming autobiography Spare | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11370761/Prince-Harry-asked-friends-ex-girlfriends-feature-upcoming-autobiography-Spare.html)

Prince Harry 'will return to Britain to promote memoir Spare' as Charles could strip him of titles | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11369235/Prince-Harry-return-Britain-promote-bombshell-memoir-Spare.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop)

Prince Harry told to 'take a risk' as he has been tipped for UK return to promote memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689652/prince-harry-news-duke-of-sussex-memoir-spare-book-tour-promotion-uk-return)

Prince Harry feared he 'had to sex up' memoir after 'touchy-feely' first draft rejected | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689600/prince-harry-news-memoir-spare-first-draft-fear-royal-family-criticism-damage)

Harry pleaded with pals and ex-girlfriends to open up on him for memoir?but 'most said no' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689583/prince-harry-news-book-spare-ex-girlfriends-duke-of-sussex-memoir)

Prince Harry to return to UK to promote book after he 'turned down' King invite - claim | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689722/Prince-Harry-return-UK-Christmas-King-Charles-invite-Sandringham-vn)

Royal Family: Palace 'on tenterhooks' as Harry poised to blindside Firm with new book | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1689302/royal-family-live-meghan-markle-prince-harry-news-archewell-kate-william-king-charles)

Prince Harry 'asked friends and ex-girlfriends to contribute to book' but most said no - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-asked-friends-ex-28364390)

Prince Harry's memoir feared 'sexed up' after publisher rejected first draft - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-memoir-feared-sexed-28362777)

Harry wrote book for himself as he couldn't 'keep trying to make Royal Family happy? - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-wrote-book-himself-couldnt-28362827)

How Sweden's Prince Harry copes with being the 'spare' after King's bold move - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/how-swedens-prince-harry-copes-28362570)

Harry 'may return to UK to promote his memoir Spare' in royal New Year nightmare - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-may-return-uk-promote-28363207)

How Prince Harry's pals and ex-girlfriends were left stunned over his memoir request | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20267078/prince-harry-pals-ex-girlfriends-memoir-stunned/)

Fears Prince Harry's book was 'sexed up' with revelations about the royals after publisher rejected first draft | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20264991/prince-harry-book-sexed-up-fears/)

King Charles could strip Prince Harry & Meghan Markle of titles over fears they'll go 'fully rogue' in explosive memoir | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20263408/king-could-strip-harry-meghan-titles-memoir/)

Real reason Prince Harry wrote his 'truth bomb' memoir revealed - as it already hits top of Amazon charts before release | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20267014/real-reason-prince-harry-memoir-amazon/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on October 31, 2022, 07:13:06 AM
Harry has been in therapy before right, didn't he learn anything that it is not his responsibility to make his family happy, that the only person he should make that concern about is himself.  Each member of any family is responsible for their own happiness, not the entire family nor friends nor the world for that matter. He can not live his life looking at himself through other people's eyes, he must face himself to be content and happy and that I believe he is afraid to do......facing our own mistakes in life is a very hard thing for must of us to do and that is why he is always acting out by bashing his family. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on October 31, 2022, 12:54:20 PM
Prince Harry?s old friends asked to break vow of silence for memoir (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/prince-harry-s-old-friends-asked-to-break-vow-of-silence-for-memoir/ar-AA13ymzB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f023dcc6069c451cac75473fe7f7e967)

QuoteA source told the Sun on Sunday unnamed friends had been contacted over the summer.

?Harry did reach out,? they said. ?Friends and girlfriends were polite and said they would think about it but ultimately most said ?no?.

?It was felt to be kind of ironic that Harry would hit the roof if he ever had an inkling they spoke to the media, but now he wants them to when he needs their help.?

It is common practice for ghostwriters to use multiple sources in completing an autobiography, cross-referencing the claims the subject has made and filling in gaps in their own memory.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 31, 2022, 01:03:19 PM
Quote from: Nightowl on October 31, 2022, 07:13:06 AM
Harry has been in therapy before right, didn't he learn anything that it is not his responsibility to make his family happy, that the only person he should make that concern about is himself.  Each member of any family is responsible for their own happiness, not the entire family nor friends nor the world for that matter. He can not live his life looking at himself through other people's eyes, he must face himself to be content and happy and that I believe he is afraid to do......facing our own mistakes in life is a very hard thing for must of us to do and that is why he is always acting out by bashing his family. 

That article about keep trying to make his family happy seems the reverse. He used to be so cheerful, 3 years to date he most of the time looks angry.

Unhappy
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 31, 2022, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 31, 2022, 01:03:19 PM
That article about keep trying to make his family happy seems the reverse. He used to be so cheerful, 3 years to date he most of the time looks angry.

Unhappy

I don?t believe Harry is unhappy. We don?t see him when he?s out with his family, and in England there?s always hostile media around. He didn?t look unhappy at all at the polo this summer or at the BetterUp event, or in the WellChild video.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on October 31, 2022, 09:36:31 PM
Prince Harry WILL acknowledge the death of Queen Elizabeth in his memoir Spare, PEOPLE confirms | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11372817/Prince-Harry-acknowledge-death-Queen-Elizabeth-memoir-Spare-PEOPLE-confirms.html)

Prince Harry 'to return to UK to promote Spare' and could lose titles | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-11374969/Prince-Harry-return-UK-promote-Spare-lose-titles.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on October 31, 2022, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 31, 2022, 01:03:19 PM
That article about keep trying to make his family happy seems the reverse. He used to be so cheerful, 3 years to date he most of the time looks angry.

Unhappy

Just looking at the pictures and way he acts in public just tells me that Harry is a miserable human being when out in public.  If his behavior is different at home, we don't know that. He scowls, his so called smile does not reach his eyes and his looks are mean like leave me alone.   I have seen pictures of Harry long before Meghan and they were the same, that tells me that Harry is a troubled youth grown into a raging troubled man.   
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on October 31, 2022, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on October 31, 2022, 09:36:31 PM
Prince Harry WILL acknowledge the death of Queen Elizabeth in his memoir Spare, PEOPLE confirms | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11372817/Prince-Harry-acknowledge-death-Queen-Elizabeth-memoir-Spare-PEOPLE-confirms.html)

Prince Harry 'to return to UK to promote Spare' and could lose titles | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-11374969/Prince-Harry-return-UK-promote-Spare-lose-titles.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop)

If Harry wants to return to the UK and face whomever, let him.  If he thinks he is going to make millions off people that are struggling to put food on the table and heat their homes, then he is in for a rude awakening.  He should sent out announcements to all the millionaire friends he has around the world and tell them to buy his book for they have money. It seems to me that for him and Meghan that money is all they care about, isn't that why they left the royal family...*financial freedom*, after all money became their God since they left the royal family that apparently didn't give them enough money. Everything they have done since leaving has been about making money....gee 30 million in a trust fund and they want more money.........greed as set in with them.  Maybe Trump could buy  a dozen books as gifts for his kids and friends.....

I don't spend money on books to make an author have a fat bank account, I was taught how to get books on the cheap side.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 31, 2022, 11:17:34 PM
On another forum someone in the book trade stated that pre-orders in the UK and US are going along very nicely thanks. Certainly Amazon are happy. And Harry will be giving a chunk of the profits to his charities including Sentebale and Invictus. He?s already announced that at the time of the book deal.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 31, 2022, 11:24:24 PM
The book is in discount in order to sell and make it a best seller, fair play.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on October 31, 2022, 11:25:07 PM
Good point.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 31, 2022, 11:38:43 PM
Quote from: Nightowl on October 31, 2022, 09:41:18 PM
Just looking at the pictures and way he acts in public just tells me that Harry is a miserable human being when out in public.  If his behavior is different at home, we don't know that. He scowls, his so called smile does not reach his eyes and his looks are mean like leave me alone.   I have seen pictures of Harry long before Meghan and they were the same, that tells me that Harry is a troubled youth grown into a raging troubled man.

I have seen countless photographs and videos of all members of the royal family in my 75 years of life. None of them go around grinning like loons 24/7. Prss Anne has a rather nasty expression at times, so did Prince Philip. Prss Margaret did the same. The Queen looked miserable and uncomfortable on occasions, as has Charles and William. Kate has looked uncomfortable and serious sometimes. In fact I do not know of any member of the BRF who has appeared in public looking wonderfully happy on all occasions and at every moment of royal engagements. The QM maybe excepted but she smiled through everything. Harry was noted for his happy demeanour and if ever he was seen unsmiling the tabloids would make up stories about break ups with girlfriends.

The point is that a camera only catches one snap moment in history when people are out in public and in the eye of journalists and photographers. The narrative of the British media since 2019  is that Harry is dreadfully unhappy away from the UK and his old life, so naturally commentators say he is constantly walking about looking miserable. When he laughs and jokes (as when at the Netherlands IG) they don?t discuss it.

Royals are humans, like everyone else. They feel misery and heartache sometimes, and anger and joy and happiness at other times. Sometimes they lose their tempers. Philip did, Georges V and VI did, Charles does, William does and yes Harry does.

However, we see less than one per cent of the private lives of members of the BRF, and the last thing I?d be doing is drawing conclusions about anyone?s temper, unhappiness, state of marriage or mind or anything else from journalists? photos and clips. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on October 31, 2022, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: wannable on October 31, 2022, 11:24:24 PM
The book is in discount in order to sell and make it a best seller, fair play.

Again, people in the book trade pointed out in various forums including the big royal forum that it is quite usual to have booksellers discounts of hardcovers that are expected to be big sellers.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on November 01, 2022, 12:43:58 AM
Quote from: Curryong on October 31, 2022, 11:38:43 PM
I have seen countless photographs and videos of all members of the royal family in my 75 years of life. None of them go around grinning like loons 24/7. Prss Anne has a rather nasty expression at times, so did Prince Philip. Prss Margaret did the same. The Queen looked miserable and uncomfortable on occasions, as has Charles and William. Kate has looked uncomfortable and serious sometimes. In fact I do not know of any member of the BRF who has appeared in public looking wonderfully happy on all occasions and at every moment of royal engagements. The QM maybe excepted but she smiled through everything. Harry was noted for his happy demeanour and if ever he was seen unsmiling the tabloids would make up stories about break ups with girlfriends.

The point is that a camera only catches one snap moment in history when people are out in public and in the eye of journalists and photographers. The narrative of the British media since 2019  is that Harry is dreadfully unhappy away from the UK and his old life, so naturally commentators say he is constantly walking about looking miserable. When he laughs and jokes (as when at the Netherlands IG) they don?t discuss it.

Royals are humans, like everyone else. They feel misery and heartache sometimes, and anger and joy and happiness at other times. Sometimes they lose their tempers. Philip did, Georges V and VI did, Charles does, William does and yes Harry does.

However, we see less than one per cent of the private lives of members of the BRF, and the last thing I?d be doing is drawing conclusions about anyone?s temper, unhappiness, state of marriage or mind or anything else from journalists? photos and clips.


Yes, we are all humans and show the other side of us at times YET, not one of the above that you mentioned has gone on attack to other members of their family like Harry and Meghan have done have they?   I don't know of any member of any royal family that has attacked their family the way he has done in public along with his wife telling lies after lies......if there is please point them out to me as like you I have been a royal fan since a young girl reading about them in life magazines a very long time ago.    What Harry and his wife have done is just DESPICABLE to HM and the family and to think HM and Prince Philip were in the last years of their lives no less which is even more heart breaking to see what he and Meghan have done......and NOBODY can say that is okay for it is NOT.  When I had issues with a member of my family, I took it to that member and settled it, I did not go on social media and bitch about it...that is called *maturity* which neither one of them have at this time in their lives.  Their lives do nothing but revolve around making MONEY given they are filthy rich with millions from trust funds, and Netflix, and Spoof and books and heaven knows who else. To me they are despicable and selfish and just mean.  They are  not role model to be looked up to by anyone at this point and someday it will come crashing down on them when they least expect it...Karma does work in her own time and that I firmly believe in.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on November 01, 2022, 12:46:56 AM
As I said fair play. Although there are best sellers that did not initiate sales by discount.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on November 01, 2022, 02:30:52 AM
Actually Charles complained about his parents to Jonathon Dimbleby in his bio and a TV interview for the bio, particularly in reference to the way he was brought up, squashed and ignored, and how he was bullied by Philip. Jonathon Dimbleby?s bio of Charles reported his conversations quote for quote, leaving his parents shocked. Philip stated that they they did their best. Anne came out in disagreement with her brother. Charles?s parents were not young.

And the present Duke of Gloucester?s father openly called his father George V  ?dreadful? (with regard to bullying) to biographers of Queen Mary. I have the book. And Edward VIII (Duke of Windsor) said ?ice ran in his mother?s (Queen Mary?s) veins? in letters he must have known would be published. Queen Mary was an old lady at the time, and a widow.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on November 01, 2022, 04:54:44 AM
Quote from: Curryong on November 01, 2022, 02:30:52 AM
Actually Charles complained about his parents to Jonathon Dimbleby in his bio and a TV interview for the bio, particularly in reference to the way he was brought up, squashed and ignored, and how he was bullied by Philip. Jonathon Dimbleby?s bio of Charles reported his conversations quote for quote, leaving his parents shocked. Philip stated that they they did their best. Anne came out in disagreement with her brother. Charles?s parents were not young.

And the present Duke of Gloucester?s father openly called his father George V  ?dreadful? (with regard to bullying) to biographers of Queen Mary. I have the book. And Edward VIII (Duke of Windsor) said ?ice ran in his mother?s (Queen Mary?s) veins? in letters he must have known would be published. Queen Mary was an old lady at the time, and a widow.

I will admit that I did not know any of that, I don't have any books written by Charles at all and am not surprised at his complaint of being ignored as his parents in pictures shown were not very warm or loving when returning from some foreign trip that I saw.    HM promised the country she would serve them till the very end and she did just that, so maybe in-between all that time, the children were ignored at times.  I can see from pictures that the early royal family were very stiff and formal and not warm and comfortable within themselves either.  The only impressions I get are from pictures of HM's grandparents and they lived in a time period when royals thought they were above reproach in all things and the same with HM's parents, in early years of HM's reign, I think it was the same thought yet things changed when Diana died and slowly royals became more approachable to the public......in the world today, none of that would survive with the way things are, Charles and William are I like to think in tune with the people for if they are not, then there would be no more monarchy. I also think that idea of marrying someone just because of their position in life like all of Victoria's children did is long gone now which is a very good thing as a position in life does not guarantee a happy marriage filled with love as history has shown us.  So Harry can follow in the footsteps of his family writing books complaining about their poor lives and since 1 is at the printers there is 2 more to go........just how much more complaining can he do about his family.......OH< and Harry is the last person on earth to champion mental health.....because if anybody needs a darn great professional psychologist it is him loud and clear as he starts talking about his mother again and again and again!  Thanks for all the info, it was a good learning experience!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on November 01, 2022, 05:52:36 AM
I have five books about Charles and in each case there were complaints about his parents? attitude to him and his terrible life at school. And in Jobson?s later bio of Charles he talks about how William would challenge his father on many occasions, standing toe to toe and shouting directly into his face.

Edward VIII and his brothers would not do that, they were all terrified of their father even as adults, who, when he was in a temper, would snap at and insult the wife he usually adored while they were having a meal, at which Mary would leave the table as soon as she could, and her children would follow her. George V made his son Bertie?s stuttering twice as bad by shouting ?Get it out, boy!? when he attempted to speak. And Edward would make fun of his younger brother. And the Duke of Kent was bisexual and a cross dresser for fun, sometimes dressing up as his mother at parties. So those royals often weren?t a particularly happy family.

It?s doubtful Harry will be writing two more books about his family. Apparently he and Meghan wanted to write health and wellness books about building up self confidence etc. They are more likely to be the subject.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on November 01, 2022, 12:16:42 PM
Quite mild compared to the damage Harry has spouted in the past 3 years. 

Anyway so far whatever the couple speak ill against family and friends has backfired in such a way. I can't wait for the book to be out there or serialized by the media.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on November 01, 2022, 12:40:05 PM
any family has its  ups and downs and bad times, and I think that provided the members are fair and moderate in what they say, its OK to let some of it out in public.  What is NOT OK, is to exaggerate the problems, tell lies or confusing information about the problems, and to do it for money.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on November 02, 2022, 01:02:12 AM
Quote from: Amabel2 on November 01, 2022, 12:40:05 PM
any family has its  ups and downs and bad times, and I think that provided the members are fair and moderate in what they say, its OK to let some of it out in public.  What is NOT OK, is to exaggerate the problems, tell lies or confusing information about the problems, and to do it for money.


Thank You!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on November 26, 2022, 01:22:03 PM
Amazon has a deal going where you can have Prince Harry's upcoming memoir Spare available for free.

Prince Harry's book Spare on Amazon for FREE in Black Friday deal months before it hits shelves  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11471637/Prince-Harrys-book-Spare-Amazon-FREE-Black-Friday-deal-months-hits-shelves.html)

QuoteAmazon's deal is available when customers take out a trial of their audiobook service Audible, and the book is now on the list of free works which can be purchased by Audible listeners during the trial.

It comes after the memoir was already advertised for sale at half of its retail price as early as October.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on December 03, 2022, 06:06:50 PM
King Charles WILL 'close the door' on Prince Harry if he criticises Camilla in his new book Spare | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11498153/King-Charles-close-door-Prince-Harry-criticises-Camilla-new-book-Spare.html)

Prince Harry may reach 'point of no return' if he lashes out at Camilla in book - expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-reach-point-no-28644368)

Prince Harry 'holds talks' with ITV pal Tom Bradby for interview to promote book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-holds-talks-itv-28648787)

Per King Charles
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on December 17, 2022, 05:52:14 PM
Liz Hurley addresses rumour she is the 'older woman' Prince Harry reportedly lost his virginity to | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11549029/Liz-Hurley-addresses-rumour-older-woman-Prince-Harry-reportedly-lost-virginity-to.html)

Elizabeth Hurley responds to claims she was Prince Harry's 'older woman' | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/20221217159833/elizabeth-hurley-responds-claims-intimate-prince-harry/)

Liz Hurley denies claim she was 'beautiful older woman' who took Prince Harry's virginity | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1710668/Liz-Hurley-Prince-Harry-memoir-royal-family-book-release)

Liz Hurley?s shock response to claim she took Harry?s virginity as memoir 'to reveal "beautiful older woman" tryst' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/20785054/liz-hurley-claims-prince-harry-virginity/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on December 20, 2022, 04:17:59 AM
Harry will promote his memoir Spare in an interview with ITV journalist (and friend) Tom Bradby | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11556291/Harry-promote-memoir-Spare-interview-ITV-journalist-friend-Tom-Bradby.html)

Prince Harry to promote memoir Spare in new interview as Palace braces for revelations - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-promote-memoir-spare-28774596)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on December 21, 2022, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on December 03, 2022, 06:06:50 PM
King Charles WILL 'close the door' on Prince Harry if he criticises Camilla in his new book Spare | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11498153/King-Charles-close-door-Prince-Harry-criticises-Camilla-new-book-Spare.html)

Prince Harry may reach 'point of no return' if he lashes out at Camilla in book - expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-reach-point-no-28644368)

Prince Harry 'holds talks' with ITV pal Tom Bradby for interview to promote book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-holds-talks-itv-28648787)

Per King Charles
The hype over the book (and everything else regarding the Sussex couple) is a bit scary, because any criticisms are likely to become big news. The Queen Consort tries very hard to do her job but not attract unnecessary attention. Rumors are rife that the book targets her. I recall Harry's interview around the time he turned 21 when he indicated that it was not a mean stepmother situation and that "William and I love her to bits".  If true that the book is critical of her it will put the King in a difficult position. He is a kind person and as such would never want to ghost his son, especially if he thinks Harry is emotionally "not himself ".
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on December 21, 2022, 03:07:44 PM
Frankly if Harry starts attacking Camilla now, after saying that he loved Camilla and she wasnt a wicked stepmother, he will look foolish.. and two faced. but then....
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on December 21, 2022, 05:40:01 PM
Loose cannon from the elite (1%) that has benefited all his life from the BRF. The more unguarded talk he does, loose lips sink (his own) ship. 

Charles may be in a precarious position because he's the King, the Constitutional Monarchy he represents and leads and a Father as well to a son who has said suffers from MH issues, Meghan is helping  him/Better Up therapists, etc. etc.  If Charles makes a favorable statement to his 1% elite son, he is an ''elitist'' supporting a privileged 1% that can go rampant trashing and has been going full on berserk, and yet retaining that 1% status uncancelled. The UK His Majesty's Government, where applicable will have to give the 'equal treatment' to Harry's and the Morgan's 2.0 and Clarkson's. IF Charles goes ''directly'' against him, the endless oxygen to the H&M soap opera.

The dangers of ''declaring publicly in favour'' being not only a 1% but most importantly a ''representative'' of the nation (Charles, Camilla, William and Kate, extend it to Anne, Eduard and Sophie). They can't. Period.  There is a political implication pampering bad behaviours of 1 vs 99...in everything, basically the BRF have to be extra extra careful from this point forward (if they weren't in the past, but I believe they have been, minus a few slip ups, BP inviting the Marlene charity without carefully looking at an obvious available RED flag in the charity commission website).

So, elitist 1% or reply back oxygen to the soap opera? Neither, stay silent, let the system solve the harry's meghan's, morgan's, clarkson's of this world. They also have to be very careful with the official message they send, it is a problem.

Basically, IF Harry can trash in his book and retain status, why can't Joe Public do the same?!  It is more of an issue in this world to support a trashy elitist who has no care whatsoever of his (or her) privilege (and do the right thing because of that privilege)  than a Joe Public that is not privileged. Once one understands this, everything else is more digestable.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on December 21, 2022, 08:23:37 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on December 21, 2022, 03:07:44 PM
Frankly if Harry starts attacking Camilla now, after saying that he loved Camilla and she wasnt a wicked stepmother, he will look foolish.. and two faced. but then....

I doubt that Harry will attack Camilla. He didn?t during the whole documentary. However. When did he say that he loved Camilla etc? Oh, yes, when he was 21 and, like other young royals of that age, under supervision from staff appointed by his father and the Palace to a large extent. People are allowed to change their minds about people as they age, even relatives. Harry was then 21, he?s now 38, and living an independent life. I think everyone should wait and see what is in the book. I have it on pre-order, so I?ll be able to post what I think.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on December 22, 2022, 12:30:14 AM
**when he was 21 and, like other young royals of that age, under supervision from staff appointed by his father and the Palace**....so Harry did not have a  mind of his own when 21?  He obeyed the staff and did everything they wanted......I have the late Queen's  Girls Tiara to sell if anyone believes that.  At that age I bet he very much had a wild mind of his own as did William, Charles, or anyone of that age. It is only when we grow older that our thinking takes a turn, we learn and see things very differently.   Like someone said to me, when we are young dumb and foolish all our decisions and choices come back to haunt us when we are older and wise...how very true for everyone.  We all make mistakes and have regrets and I wonder if Harry will ever regret the harsh and cruel treatment of his grandparents in their final years that he did to them...for the world to see no less.  Neither Harry nor Meghan are perfect human beings as their fans so want to believe.....oh yes Karma will come for them sooner than later.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on December 22, 2022, 01:48:26 AM
Jamie Lowther Pinkerton was PS to both William and Harry from May 2005 onwards. He, along with people from Clarence House, knew very much how the Palace works (he had been Equerry to the QM for years, and yes, he would have had a look over what the two Princes said in their Press interviews as would the RF Press Secretaries.

You don?t really think that young men in their twenties would be sent out to meet the Press on even an innocuous occasion as a 21st birthday without some sort of instructions as to what to say, the right response to a question, or what was going to be asked? Because that just ain?t so.

Even as late as the first long BBC programme the brothers did on the 20th anniversary of Diana?s death, there were reports that Charles asked for and received a list of the questions to be answered that were going to be on the programme.

And yes, most royals have any organisation or journalist that is going to interview them submit a list of questions to be approved first. And if they are not approved (by either the royal or their PS or Press Sec or both) then they aren?t asked. And that?s what would have been going on with that interview Harry did at the Royal Stables when he was 21.

PS I have never stated that I believe that Harry and Meghan are perfect human beings who have never made mistakes. Nor has anyone else I know who sympathises with the couple on anything. However, I do not believe that other members of the RF are perfect angels at all times either.

And that goes for Prince Philip and the Queen as well, admirable though I feel she was. Old age and having grandchildren doesn?t excuse anybody from being unfaithful, being cut off from modern life, making bad decisions or any other event in life.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on December 22, 2022, 02:19:04 AM
How Charles evades media scrutiny. This one?s Charles, but almost all the others who agree to interviews do it too.And their aides and Press Secretaries etc prepare the documents for signing.

How Prince Charles evades media scrutiny in television interviews | Roy Greenslade | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2015/dec/02/how-prince-charles-evades-media-scrutiny-in-television-interviews)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on December 22, 2022, 04:31:03 PM
The fact that the duo have attacked their family in the past and present directly or indirectly throwing lots of shade, in this woke era, the use of frequent words of racist, misogynist, feminist, all other ''ist'', that both like to exalt to be against those who commit the cardinal sin and defenders of,  but break it minutes, hours, days, weeks later after talking about it, like valid for everyone except our families. 

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on December 22, 2022, 07:03:32 PM
There are no plans for a newspaper serialisation of Spare, Prince Harry's memoir, his publisher Transworld has confirmed. The book will be published on 10th January.

https://twitter.com/thebookseller/status/1605875045729026048?s=20&t=xzMzxDBHyK8Foojc6XS1YQ
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: dianab on December 23, 2022, 12:24:40 AM
it will be nice if his bio had private pix of him with his mother.... though by his netflix doc, it appears be unlikely
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on December 23, 2022, 02:10:39 AM
There were many many clips and photos of Harry with his mother (and grandmother, father and brother) that were shown in the Netflix documentary.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on December 23, 2022, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: dianab on December 23, 2022, 12:24:40 AM
it will be nice if his bio had private pix of him with his mother.... though by his netflix doc, it appears be unlikely

Hopeful that there might be a private photo of the two of them. I wonder how the family photo albums were divided after Charles and Diana divorced? I have a feeling that Paul Burrell was in possession of these personal items as he did have so many of Diana's belongings in his home. I would imagine that Charles, William and Harry have their personal sets of pictures. I recall William and Harry browsing through an old album during their 20th anniversary tribute to their late mother.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on December 23, 2022, 03:40:50 PM
The lies. The lies. The half truths.
His book. Then Omids
trip to Coronation in May for more ammunition .
Time to reload.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on December 28, 2022, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: TLLK on December 23, 2022, 03:14:34 PM
Hopeful that there might be a private photo of the two of them. I wonder how the family photo albums were divided after Charles and Diana divorced? I have a feeling that Paul Burrell was in possession of these personal items as he did have so many of Diana's belongings in his home. I would imagine that Charles, William and Harry have their personal sets of pictures. I recall William and Harry browsing through an old album during their 20th anniversary tribute to their late mother.
I cant quite  understand why Paul Burrell would have so many of Diana's personal things, so that her sons had toe get them from him. I would imagine that th boys got her albums iwth personal pics of her with them or with Charles, and Charles had siome of his own.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 01, 2023, 12:51:49 AM
The Sunday Times has an alleged insider (source at Penguin) saying Harry's Spare is  a William and to a bit of a lesser extent Kate bashing and trashing.

Diana and how he never got over her death
William and Kate bashing/trashing
Media bashing/trashing

The Sunday Times concludes that IF their Penguin source is spot on with the info, William will have a forever break up with his brother Harry, allegedly there are ''minute notes' meetings between the brothers that Harry will spill.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 01, 2023, 01:12:34 AM
My reply to all this speculation is ?Wait until the book is actually published?. The media, both broadsheet and tabloid, did a whole lot of speculating about the Netflix series, hardly any of which came to pass and it continues with what may be in this book by Harry. And IF there are minutes on meetings with his brother that show William in an unfavourable light then so be it.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 01, 2023, 01:26:12 AM
Great advice.

With all the Netflix thing, the Sunday Times broke the South Africa ''move'', Harry confirmed it at Netflix and IMO using it as an excuse to say 'they spoiled it hence we didn't move there'.  All famous people abode is one way or another disclosed by the media.

I use the above example as a 'probability measure' that the Sunday Times has a Peguin insider spilling the beans?! 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 01, 2023, 01:48:02 AM
Last post before saying goodbye to the old year/new year, it's only 8:43 p.m. party escapist here, when Harry said the excuse of not moving to SA because of the media (The Sunday Times), it doesn't make sense, the media also disclosed Canada the Russian, California the Tyler, Montecito the Russian! Anyway, I will take Curryong's advice, let's see the content of the book. I must say, my hope that Harry doesn't trash anyone is very very low. Sorry.

Why Netflix didn't tell the couple the obvious duh or the OMG contradiction stated by themselves past/present including from one episode to the next is quite crazy. Simply don't care for their client/employee, they just want the moneys.  I'm sure both parties are satisfied, great ratings. Job done.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 01, 2023, 02:09:35 PM
From what I understand there will be no serialization of the book and that it will just be released on January 10, 2023. Awaiting for the release before making any assumptions, seems to be sound advice.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 01, 2023, 11:08:35 PM
Harry and William 'will NEVER reconcile after his book', insider says | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590061/Harry-William-NEVER-reconcile-book-insider-says.html)

Harry and William's relationship is now 'hanging by a thread' as King tries to keep line open | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590703/Harry-Williams-relationship-hanging-thread-King-tries-line-open.html)

King Charles escapes criticism from Prince Harry's tell-all book | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11589363/King-Charles-escapes-criticism-Prince-Harrys-tell-book.html)
HELL NO!! Meghan plans to tell all book after Harry more embarrassed for Royal family!!

Spare: What to expect from Prince Harry's highly anticipated memoir | Ents & Arts News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/spare-what-to-expect-from-prince-harrys-highly-anticipated-memoir-12772115)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 01, 2023, 11:39:59 PM
Prince Harry to be 'tough' on William as royal brothers 'may never reconcile' after memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1715788/prince-harry-prince-william-royal-brothers-memoir-book-spare)

Meghan Markle memoir 'would make sense' if Duchess 'harbours political ambitions' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1715772/meghan-markle-memoir-make-sense-political-run-dxus)

Kate Middleton to come under fire in Prince Harry's memoir as Princess 'gets a broadside' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1715711/kate-middleton-prince-harry-memoir-spare-prince-william-royal-family)

Prince Harry tipped to leave bombshell revelation out of book after public promise | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1714609/prince-harry-book-meghan-markle-oprah-winfrey-spt)

Prince Harry's memoir will be especially tough on William and Kate, insider says | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1715891/prince-harry-book-spare-william-kate)

Prince William feels 'dismayed and betrayed' by brother Prince Harry over broken down bond | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1713045/prince-william-prince-harry-relationship-meghan-markle-latest)

Prince Harry's book means he and William will never reconcile, royal experts say - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harrys-book-means-william-28852294)

Harry and Meghan's daughter Lilibet isn't the only young royal to be born in the US - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/maud-windsor-lilibet-diana-us-28755006)
Lilibet is born in USA not UK

Meghan Markle 'to unleash her own bombshell memoirs' as Prince Harry's drops next week - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-to-unleash-bombshell-28850264)

Details of Prince Harry's bombshell book Spare leak - and William and Kate get brunt of hate - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/details-prince-harrys-bombshell-book-28850218)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-tell-28-memoir-28848000

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20914276/prince-harry-book-spare-william/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20910247/royals-bracing-meghan-memoir-harry-book/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20908870/prince-harrys-book-tough-on-william/

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: changemhysoul on January 02, 2023, 02:02:02 AM
editI know Sussex-hate-conspiracy rumors gets clicks but the amount of articles.

Tbh, I'd be happy if the Express just changed their website.

Tho, I'm not clicking but reading the headlines, it's just a repeat of what they've been saying for months.




MOD NOTE: please dont swear.  Refer to the rules if any questions.  Yes, the word you used was swearing in this context.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 02, 2023, 02:54:18 AM
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 02, 2023, 02:02:02 AM
, I know Sussex-hate-conspiracy rumors gets clicks but the amount of articles.

Tbh, I'd be happy if the Express just changed their website.

Tho, I'm not clicking but reading the headlines, it's just a repeat of what they've been saying for months.

The Express is the worst for anti Sussex articles. I?ve kept an eye on the online edition of this tabloid rag for over four years now and, though the number peaks and falls it averages out at about three negative articles about the couple EACH DAY. Never any less. Now total that up over the years.

A lot of them are embroidered gossip repeating previous articles, and though I don?t read them (I doubt anybody reads each one) the headlines are enough. Keeps their journalists in a job I suppose but what a way to earn one?s living!

edit to remove swear word from quoted post
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 02, 2023, 01:37:34 PM
The trailer for the Duke's interview with Anderson Cooper for CBS' program Sixty Minutes will air on January 9, 2023. Here's the trailer: Prince Harry to appear on 60 Minutes next Sunday - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNxivk51eko)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 02, 2023, 01:45:13 PM
The couple will never reconcile with the BRF (especially W&K), they are resentful of the 'position' they had within the line of succession. The couple don't know and will never be able to handle having a Boss.

In his ITV interview with Tom Bradby, Harry says he wants his father and brother 'back'....

They didn't go anywhere, the only one who left was H&M, they trash and allegedly plan to reconcile after the trashing is done  :sarcastic: 

A very lost soul.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 02, 2023, 02:52:53 PM

Another preview trailer.
Prince Harry tells 60 Minutes about his decision to speak publicly | 60 Minutes - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYBFMfWWBC8)



According to a statement from Penguin publishing, the Duke does wish to make some donations from Spare. Here are the charities/organizations that are believed to be possible recipients.

15 things to expect from Prince Harry's memoir 'Spare' which promises 'raw, unflinching honesty' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11591695/11-things-expect-Prince-Harrys-memoir-Spare-promises-raw-unflinching-honesty.html#newcomment)

QuoteHow much is the book deal worth - and how much will Harry donate to charity?

Prince Harry is said to have received a $20 million advance for Spare.

A previous statement from Penguin Random House said he would donate some of his proceeds to charity.

'Prince Harry wishes to support British charities with donations from his proceeds from SPARE.

'The Duke of Sussex has donated $1,500,000 to Sentebale, an organization he founded with Prince Seeiso in their mothers? legacies, which supports vulnerable children and young people in Lesotho and Botswana affected by HIV/AIDS.


'Prince Harry will also donate to the non-profit organization WellChild in the amount of ?300,000. WellChild, which he has been Royal patron of for fifteen years, makes it possible for children and young people with complex health needs to be cared for at home instead of hospital, wherever possible.' [/quote]

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: dianab on January 02, 2023, 03:05:45 PM
the why they're paying him in USA to bash william and kate not charles and camilla is BEYOND me!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 02, 2023, 03:25:32 PM
Prince Harry insists it 'never needed to be this way' in publicity blitz for memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11591933/Prince-Harry-insists-never-needed-way-publicity-blitz-memoir.html)

Prince Harry promotes explosive autobiography Spare in 'revealing' interview | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11591611/Harry-share-details-new-book-revealing-interview-US-TV-show.html)

15 things to expect from Prince Harry's memoir 'Spare' which promises 'raw, unflinching honesty' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11591695/11-things-expect-Prince-Harrys-memoir-Spare-promises-raw-unflinching-honesty.html)

Prince Harry's body language in trailer for interview with Anderson Cooper | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11591769/Prince-Harrys-body-language-trailer-interview-Anderson-Cooper.html)

Harry and William's relationship is now 'hanging by a thread' as King tries to keep line open | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590703/Harry-Williams-relationship-hanging-thread-King-tries-line-open.html)

Prince Harry needs to decide 'what he wants', royal expert warns | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11591805/Prince-Harry-needs-decide-wants-royal-expert-warns.html)

Prince Harry's surprising revelation about relationship with Prince William and dad King Charles | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230102160739/prince-harry-wants-to-mend-relationship-with-prince-william-king-charles/)

Prince Harry prepares for another tell-all interview ahead of 'explosive' autobiography: TRAILER | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230102160730/prince-harry-trailer-anderson-cooper-interview-ahead-release-spare/)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64145773

Prince Harry says he wants his father and brother 'back' and to be part of 'family not an institution' | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-says-he-wants-his-father-and-brother-back-as-trailer-for-tv-interview-is-released-12778357)

Prince Harry: I would like my father and my brother back | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/02/prince-harry-would-like-father-brother-back-itv)

Harry begs for his 'father and brother back' in emotional interview with ITV's Tom Bradby | TV & Radio | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1716022/Prince-Harry-beg-King-Charles-Prince-William-feud-ITV-Tom-Bradby)

Harry rages 'he wants family not institution' as he says Royals 'not willing to reconcile' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716034/Prince-harry-itv-tom-bradby-interview-royal-family-news-meghan-markle)

Harry launches savage attack on Firm for keeping Sussexes as 'villains' in new interview | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716020/Prince-harry-itv-interview-tom-brady-royal-family-news-prince-william-king-charles)

Prince Harry warned not to cross King Charles's 'red line' over Camilla in tell-all memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716011/prince-harry-memoir-king-charles-camilla-queen-consort-royal-family)

Prince Harry to drop 'explosive' interview on 60 minutes this Sunday ahead of book release | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1715925/Prince-Harry-book-spare-60-minutes-anderson-cooper-cbs-royal-latest-dxus)

King Charles on a 'quivering tightrope' with Meghan and Harry as he 'needs' Duke of Sussex | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1713089/king-charles-prince-harry-relationship-meghan-markle-latest)

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-02/prince-harry-says-i-want-a-family-not-an-institution-in-itv-trailer

Prince Harry says 'I want my father and brother back' in bombshell ITV interview - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-prince-harry-says-wants-28856416)

Prince Harry branded 'pathetic' by fans over plea to win family back in ITV interview - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/royal-fans-call-prince-harry-28857182)

Prince Harry talks of 'betrayal' as he takes another swipe at royals in book interview - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/breaking-prince-harry-talks-betrayal-28856379)

Prince Harry and William's relationship 'hanging by thread' ahead of explosive memoir - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-williams-relationship-hanging-28854684)

'Bitter' Prince Harry savages William in new book saying he had to play 'second fiddle' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/bitter-prince-harry-savages-william-28854105)

Prince Harry's book means he and William will never reconcile, royal experts say - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harrys-book-means-william-28852294)

Prince Harry says ?I would like to get my father back? & blasts royals as he fumes ?I want a family NOT an institution? | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20917384/prince-harry-wants-father-back/)

Prince Harry will blast William & moan he was forced to play second fiddle to older brother in explosive new book | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20914276/prince-harry-book-spare-william/)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20917442/prince-harry-big-william-admission-new-interview/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20916708/prince-harry-superior-body-language/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20915714/prince-harry-book-interview-tv/
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: changemhysoul on January 02, 2023, 03:29:10 PM
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 02, 2023, 02:02:02 AM
editI know Sussex-hate-conspiracy rumors gets clicks but the amount of articles.

Tbh, I'd be happy if the Express just changed their website.

Tho, I'm not clicking but reading the headlines, it's just a repeat of what they've been saying for months.


MOD NOTE: please dont swear.  Refer to the rules if any questions.  Yes, the word you used was swearing in this context.

I don't think I can DM yet but could you PM what the word was? Honestly, this morning...I can't remember what I typed or is that specific word in the rules?

As for other news.

I think the ITV clip has been edited to be a bit of drama, I'm pretty sure a 'but' is following the 'I Want Them Back' part.

And honestly, I think it's just apart of the game. He's playing the game is family has been playing, briefing to the papers about Harry negatively and in the same breath saying that they want him back.

In the 60 Minutes teaser, it's pretty much been laid out as I've seen it played out. The households leak. I wish people would stop trying to deny that information. Before Meghan came on the scene, it was widely accepted that the family leaked against each other, for projects and to throw each other under the buss.

Many of the Royal Reporters who are acting as if there isn't a working deal between the family and the press when Harry calls out it...you can find plenty of videos of them saying. "There is an awful lot of leaking," They just don't like the fact that Harry is calling it out.

And to me, that's the crux of the issue. The household, before H&M EVER spoke, constantly and consistently leaked, stayed silent in the face of the abuse Meghan was experiencing, contributed too the hate vacuum and went mum's the word. They would response and break 'never complain, never explain' when it came to certain rumors or certain family members.

It seems the family/institution, thought that Harry should just accept and this and are now shocked and surprised that he's not showing the loyalty they want.

People say H&M want their cake and want too eat it too, sure maybe they do.
But they also want H&M (especially Harry) to stay silent to make them look good while also expecting him to be okay with the press and their undertones as they sit back on their hands and act as they can do nothing.

I think I'd be okay, if people simply acknowledged there was failing on the family parts and acknowledge that the family won't accept responsibility as much as they claim H&M won't. It's fine if people are upset that H&M are breaking the beloved status quo and the feeling of escapism all of this has brought.

So, all in all I'm saying.

Honestly, as long as the family leaks or allows the staff to leak then I just don't care about Harry speaking up.

Also, while Harry has said what is issue with William, he's hardly spoken about Kate. Same for Camilla. Those two ladies are hardly being bashed by him.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 02, 2023, 03:32:51 PM
The BRF leak to the media, Harry and Meghan don't leak or collab or got caught in a court of law

Why does he want to reconcile with a leaking family?   :coy:

Every public person uses the press. Without the press they are nothing.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: changemhysoul on January 02, 2023, 03:42:14 PM
We see things differently, that's fair.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 02, 2023, 03:45:33 PM
Prince Harry Wants Dad King Charles and Brother Prince William 'Back' (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-wants-father-king-charles-brother-prince-william-back-amid-royal-family-tension/)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on January 02, 2023, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 02, 2023, 01:45:13 PM
The couple will never reconcile with the BRF (especially W&K), they are resentful of the 'position' they had within the line of succession. The couple don't know and will never be able to handle having a Boss.

In his ITV interview with Tom Bradby, Harry says he wants his father and brother 'back'....

They didn't go anywhere, the only one who left was H&M, they trash and allegedly plan to reconcile after the trashing is done  :sarcastic: 

A very lost soul.



He is crazy. Off.    :happy17:He is mentally emotionally off. Stunted. He cannot reason. :blink:

Prince Harry insists it 'never needed to be this way' in publicity blitz for memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11591933/Prince-Harry-insists-never-needed-way-publicity-blitz-memoir.html#reader-comments)

Whatever. Let him speak, speak?voice his truth over n over n over.
Rumor is Megan is going to write her autobiography too.
Fine.
Omits new book is due this year, lol, same thing.

I hope Megan  n Henny Penny Henry keep speaking?talk again n AGAIN.
Voice their truth. Lol
Continue every chance the get for this is their moneymaker, their job, their schnick  to slander, be as nasty as possible to BRF esp KC, W, and Catherine.

BRF needs to  Remain Never Explain and Never Complain.
Continue living their personal lives
. Continue doing what is right by their country and people.
Listen to their people and their govt..
William should consider Henry dead.
When people are faced with crazy relatives, they save themselves and sever ties.
William in real life needs to save himself, raise his family with his wife.
Public life, as P of Wales, his public duties, the Duchy?s , are greatly increased and finding a huge balance, and sticking to schedules for family time is very  much  to do.

Asking for his father and brother back, lol, yeah for more ammunition.  :windsor:


Question.
Hmmm?..What truth to voice do they, Henry and Megan now have since they only saw BRF and KC, W, C, Cam at Qs funeral.

The Sussex need more ammunition to voice their truth.lol.
If KC, W, C, stay away, do not invite, etc. these two crazy people, well,what truth to voice are Sussex talking, lol. Omg.


YES , KC has to invite Sussex to his coronation, but in doing do, it can be very controlled. Sitting by Eug n.  hubby or Lady Sarah Chatto n her family. 3 rd row. People like that.
1 or 2 functions.
Church.
Ceremony for coronation.
Two controlled functions   where there are no socializations.
No to any luncheon, dinner, social ceremony with world leaders.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 02, 2023, 03:57:05 PM
He is doing exactly like Thomas Markle Sr.

1 hour interview speaking AGAIN about his family, the British media, then I want to reconcile, I want them back. He should edit and add the USA media too.

:teehee:

*****

What are the details of the Harry reconciliation? IOW, IF the BRF reconcile with H&M? Will the couple have 'conditions'? They left wanting 'conditions' which wasn't accepted, we witnessed that a half in half out is impossible (including their initial manifesto, which was 100% scrapped), making moneys out of a Constitutional Monarchy, the UK would have entered a revolution.

And with a reconciliation will it be written in a official statement?

The couple contradict themselves, then lie, then retreat, then attack, it's a never ending circle/cycle, which IMO is their endless plan to have a tit for tat with Harry's family.  What I've noticed is with the silence of the BRF, the couple get angrier and desperate.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: changemhysoul on January 02, 2023, 04:18:50 PM
I just actually watched the 60 Minutes one because I thought it was the same teaser from last night.

I agree that they're going tit for tat because in my view, there is something to go tit for tat for. I guess, I don't really mind if Harry is following the way what was done to him, he's just actually doing it publicly. (Because, once again, I don't view running to your favorite journalist or rota reporter being silent.)

Until it drops though, I think I'll be taking a step back somewhat. A is going to be said, teasers released and etc until the lead up.

I'll be off work when this drops so I can at least be up for when it drops. I pre-ordered Spare but it's going to ship on the 10th so I might order the audio-book.

It's going to be a long week.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Ayse on January 02, 2023, 04:34:37 PM
He?s just a lost soul. It kills him when BRF doesn?t respond. I wonder what will he talk about ( i?m sorry i meant to say make money off of) in two years.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 02, 2023, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: Ayse on January 02, 2023, 04:34:37 PM
He?s just a lost soul. It kills him when BRF doesn?t respond. I wonder what will he talk about ( i?m sorry i meant to say make money off of) in two years.

No!! But Royal family wouldn?t comment due Prince Harry and Meghan did tell all interview included Oprah in 2021,Netflix last December 2022 they now his books in weeks but King Charles and Prince William wouldn?t comment without palace attorney and Sussex attorney but William told Harry this book will straighten to book store not to Buckingham Palace or Kensington Palace but it?s private matters and business matters and exactly family business matters royal family will remain silent about this book and Netflix
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 02, 2023, 06:28:03 PM
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 02, 2023, 04:18:50 PM
I just actually watched the 60 Minutes one because I thought it was the same teaser from last night.

I agree that they're going tit for tat because in my view, there is something to go tit for tat for. I guess, I don't really mind if Harry is following the way what was done to him, he's just actually doing it publicly. (Because, once again, I don't view running to your favorite journalist or rota reporter being silent.)

Until it drops though, I think I'll be taking a step back somewhat. A is going to be said, teasers released and etc until the lead up.

I'll be off work when this drops so I can at least be up for when it drops. I pre-ordered Spare but it's going to ship on the 10th so I might order the audio-book.

It's going to be a long week.



Yes will be long weeks on Harry?s story and exactly his claims but Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace will not comment about that it?s private matters,business matters and also family matters business im sure royal family will not comment about that not back to Netflix bombshell kept silent its private!!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 02, 2023, 07:07:51 PM
The interview with Anderson Cooper was recorded at the nearby San Ysidro ranch which is a luxury hotel in the Santa Barbara mountains. (My best friend married there and I can assure you it is gorgeous. It has recovered from being damaged during devastating wildfires in 2017.)

San Ysidro Ranch | Santa Barbara Resorts | Official Website (https://www.sanysidroranch.com/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 02, 2023, 08:25:20 PM
I?ve ordered the ?Spare? book and I?ll look at the FULL interviews with Tom Bradby and of course Anderson Cooper when they are shown. Im not going on forums or anywhere else commenting on articles about what Harry will say  according to journalists writing in tabloids that have in some cases been sued by the Sussexes, or even broadsheets.

This is because I don?t wish to get my impressions of the forthcoming book filtered through the lens of a media that is 99% hostile to Harry and his wife. A media incidentally that does not know any more than anybody else what is in this book but which for weeks have been jumping on and drawing their own conclusions. I?ll wait to hear what is said in these interviews from Harry?s own lips before I comment here on any of it.

And I never never forget that the British media has its own bias and agenda when spewing forth its endless articles about this couple. They claim to speak for the British people but in reality, as one editor of the Sun once said ?Why let facts get in the way of a good story??

And I do believe, as I?ve said here before and given examples of, stories are planted in the media, usually via RRs, by aides who want to test waters and get their side out there. Different Royal Households do on occasion work against each other and plant hostile stories about each other.

The truth is that there iIS an unspoken pact between the Palace and the British Press, especially the widely read tabloids, and the editors and proprietors play it because otherwise they wouldn?t get their interviews when royals care to give one to the Press via favourites like Richard Kaye etc, cooperation from royals who want publicity for their projects, or any nuggets of information from the Palace.

The royals play ball because in return they get good publicity for themselves and their causes, fawning articles are printed to those of the British public who care to read them, and so the show goes on, and has for at least forty years now,

So, after the tenth I?ll be reading the Harry autobiography and hopefully giving you my honest impressions of each chapter (unless I don?t understand why something has been said of course, which is a possibility! But hopefully not.)
Until then I?m remaining silent on all of it!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 02, 2023, 08:40:11 PM
Quote from: TLLK on January 02, 2023, 07:07:51 PM
The interview with Anderson Cooper was recorded at the nearby San Ysidro ranch which is a luxury hotel in the Santa Barbara mountains. (My best friend married there and I can assure you it is gorgeous. It has recovered from being damaged during devastating wildfires in 2017.)

San Ysidro Ranch | Santa Barbara Resorts | Official Website (https://www.sanysidroranch.com/)

I?ll bet it costs an arm and leg to hold any function there, but as you said the location, gardens, facilities just look drop dead gorgeous. It?s great that it?s been fully restored.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 02, 2023, 10:25:47 PM
Quote from: Curryong on January 02, 2023, 08:40:11 PM
I?ll bet it costs an arm and leg to hold any function there, but as you said the location, gardens, facilities just look drop dead gorgeous. It?s great that it?s been fully restored.

Just checked the price on one of  the two bedroom cottages and it's $10,000.00 per night for today.  :happy17:
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on January 02, 2023, 11:39:27 PM
Tit for, a war of words.
Sussex c would love it. Ammunition.

Remain to never explain and never complain is correct by BRF - KC, Camilla, P /P of Wales.
Simply ignore.
Henry who? Who?

  PoorWhittle. Crazy Harwy. He wrote his autobiography about William, lol.

The paranoia, bitterness, delusion, anger, jealously , resentment runs decades deep. Who knew?


Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 03, 2023, 12:24:59 AM
JAN MOIR: Watch out Windsors, bitter Harry's heating up his tureen of spleen again ahead of memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11593059/JAN-MOIR-Watch-Windsors-bitter-Harrys-heating-tureen-spleen-ahead-memoir.html)

Royal experts say Harry and Meghan need to learn 'silence is common sense' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11592539/Royal-experts-say-Harry-Meghan-need-learn-silence-common-sense.html)

MAUREEN CALLAHAN: Prince Harry is bleating about family reconciliation - why the hell would they? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11592799/MAUREEN-CALLAHAN-Prince-Harry-bleating-family-reconciliation-hell-they.html)

Inside the Montecito ranch rented for Prince Harry's bombshell interviews | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11592045/Inside-Montecito-ranch-rented-Prince-Harrys-bombshell-interviews.html)

Diana writer: No matter what surfaces, Harry's book won't destroy royals | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716146/andrew-morton-diana-prince-harry-spare-memoir-royals)

What to expect from Prince Harry's memoir - and how it could ruin bond with William - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/what-expect-prince-harrys-memoir-28856896)

Inside Prince Harry's bond with Tom Bradby as ITV star admits he's 'no friend' of William - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/inside-prince-harrys-bond-tom-28858303)

Prince Harry's memoir will not destroy or damage the monarchy, royal author says - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-memoir-not-destroy-28860165)

Prince Harry says Royals have 'shown no willingness to reconcile' & accuses them of 'planting' stories in 2 TV chats | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20920408/prince-harry-interviews-planting-stories-royals/)

If Harry wants to build bridges - he should not be going round with this demolition kit | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20920787/harry-build-bridges-charles-william/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 03, 2023, 01:25:24 AM
Quote from: TLLK on January 02, 2023, 10:25:47 PM
Just checked the price on one of  the two bedroom cottages and it's $10,000.00 per night for today.  :happy17:

Well, if you married a multi millionaire or were one yourself, fine! Otherwise, at least here in Aus, there are a lot of spectacular Asian and Pacific locations that could be visited for a week, with airflight and accommodation deals for much less than $10,000, with breakfasts included as well!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 03, 2023, 05:03:58 AM
Prince Harry interviewer Anderson Cooper's great-aunt had affair with Duke's great-great uncle | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11592775/Prince-Harry-interviewer-Anderson-Coopers-great-aunt-affair-Dukes-great-great-grandfather.html)

Royals are 'exhausted' with Harry and Meghan's 'stream of misinformation', sources say | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11593605/Royals-exhausted-Harry-Meghans-stream-misinformation-sources-say.html)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 03, 2023, 10:38:49 PM
SUE REID: So why DID researchers for Harry's new memoir quiz me about Diana's death crash? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11596307/SUE-REID-DID-researchers-Harrys-new-memoir-quiz-Dianas-death-crash.html)
If late Diana,Princess of Wales was here today from heaven and Diana warned Harry don?t write about his mom?s personal life unbelievable Harry!!

Broadcaster slams Prince Harry's explosive interviews as 'whinging' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11594349/Broadcaster-slams-Prince-Harrys-explosive-interviews-whinging.html)

Security around Prince Harry's memoir Spare match those for JK Rowling's final Harry Potter book | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11595823/Security-Prince-Harrys-memoir-Spare-match-JK-Rowlings-final-Harry-Potter-book.html)

Prince Harry Tells Anderson Cooper If He'll Return to Old Royal Role (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-wont-return-working-royal-role-anderson-cooper-interview-preview/)

Prince Harry comments on possible return as senior royal following move to America with Meghan Markle | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230103160760/prince-harry-reveals-if-return-to-royal-family-is-possible-in-the-future/)

Prince Harry?s teasers trigger tsunami of outrage as the Windsors await his book | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/03/prince-harry-teaser-trailer-tv-talks-memoir-spare-royal-family)

Prince Harry's leak claims picked apart by Royal Family expert | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716360/prince-harry-leak-claims-emily-andrews-royal-family-latest)

Prince Harry's 'idiotic' ploy to make up with Firm unravels after 'pillorying them afresh' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716295/prince-harry-reconciliation-royal-family-daniela-elser-latest)

Prince Harry 'wrong' to claim King Charles 'not willing' to heal rift | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716622/prince-harry-wrong-charles-william-not-willing-to-reconcile-heal-rift-spare)

Prince Harry and Prince William 'won't be able to reconcile' after new book is released | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716572/prince-harry-prince-william-new-book-spare-royal-family)

Prince Harry's CBS interview was filmed at ?what looks like? The Churchill cottage | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716545/prince-harry-cbs-interview-churchill-cottage-san-ysidro-meghan-markle-royal-spt)

Prince Harry 60 minutes interview may take 'different form of questioning' than Oprah | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716481/prince-harry-anderson-cooper-60-minutes-interview-spare-oprah-dxus)

Prince Harry slammed by Bethenny Frankel over latest 60 minutes interview | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1716397/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-bethenny-frankel-tiktok-60-minutes-spare-royal-dxus)

Harry's 'unwillingness to reconcile' claims rubbished after King invited him to stay - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harrys-unwillingness-reconcile-claims-rubbished-28867327)

Prince Harry's 'staccato blink' suggests 'suppressed anger' and 'defiance', says expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-staccato-blink-suggests-28864267)

Prince Harry claims royal staff 'spoonfed stories' to 'betray' him and Meghan - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-claims-royal-staff-28861175)

Prince Harry's blunt reply when asked about return to royal life in explosive trailer - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-blunt-reply-asked-28862666)

No easy way back to The Firm for Harry now after runaway royal's string of bombshells | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20930535/prince-harry-no-easy-way-back-firm/)

Prince Harry 'attacks Kate' in 'tough' new book Spare & will never be able to reconcile with William, report says | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20923976/prince-harry-attacks-kate-book/)

Good Morning Britain erupts into explosive row over Meghan and Harry after Richard Madeley takes a swipe at them | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/20922185/good-morning-britain-meghan-harry-richard-madeley-whinging/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on January 04, 2023, 06:58:41 AM
Henry is a special kind of stupid.

Lol.

He says, Silence is betrayal.
Oh  . He wants a fight if press releases. KC, W are doing this the right way. Ignore.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 04, 2023, 11:25:01 AM
Harry is on a raging warpath against his family and at this point all he wants to do with his life is show his anger and rage to the world, so just sit back and let him self-destruct as he is very narrow minded and only sees his so called truth, there is always 2 sides to a story, always!  I don't feel sorry for him or  Meghan, they are adults and their egos run the game....so sitting back with my hot tea and biscuits and books waiting for him to self-destruct!

He most certainly is giving the world a real hard look at Harry, and it is not a good look at all. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 04, 2023, 01:33:43 PM
Amazon and Penguin should be happy with this news. Spare is currently the second best for pre-sales in the UK and the US. The book will be released on January 10, 2023.

Prince Harry's memoir Spare is no.2 on Amazon's best-seller list in US and the UK in pre-sales | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11598175/Prince-Harrys-memoir-Spare-no-2-Amazons-best-seller-list-UK-pre-sales.html)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 04, 2023, 05:34:26 PM
Quite, they don't care if it's on sale since going out in the market for half price and going down, offloading the books from Penguin House to all interested stores.

For example, the book is available at several supermarkets (full shelves, offloading) at GBP5 in London, that is USD 6. Supermarket accepted the full shelves means Penguin offloaded the amount of books for cheap. Source: Neil Sean
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 04, 2023, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 04, 2023, 05:34:26 PM
Quite, they don't care if it's on sale since going out in the market for half price and going down, offloading the books from Penguin House to all interested stores.

For example, the book is available at several supermarkets (full shelves, offloading) at GBP5 in London, that is USD 6. Supermarket accepted the full shelves means Penguin offloaded the amount of books for cheap. Source: Neil Sean

I didn?t know that Neil Sean is an expert on the book market. I think of him as just another of those journalists who have made a living for the last four years at least as an entertainment reporter making money by peddling gossip and trashing the Sussexes, or attempting to!

And actually a friend of my husbands has worked in the book publishing business for years, still has strong links there, (he?s semi retired now) and says that selling to supermarkets is a recognised method of selling books of all kinds. Supermarket heads are not idiots. Nor is Amazon. And our friend says that Amazon is more than satisfied with how the book is selling.

It suits people like Sean and the British media to say that no-one is interested in the Sussexes and that nothing connected with them will sell or do well. They were left with egg on their faces with the pro Sussex book Finding Freedom which was a best seller and went to paperback, with the Oprah interview which had world wide high TV ratings, and with the Netflix documentary, which did very very well. Egged again.

I take absolutely no notice of the anti Sussex brigade who are always prophesying disaster at all times for this couple.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 12:19:27 AM
Quote from: Nightowl on January 04, 2023, 11:25:01 AM
Harry is on a raging warpath against his family and at this point all he wants to do with his life is show his anger and rage to the world, so just sit back and let him self-destruct as he is very narrow minded and only sees his so called truth, there is always 2 sides to a story, always!  I don't feel sorry for him or  Meghan, they are adults and their egos run the game....so sitting back with my hot tea and biscuits and books waiting for him to self-destruct!

He most certainly is giving the world a real hard look at Harry, and it is not a good look at all.

There certainly are two sides to every story and that is what the Sussexes have been trying to make known for three years. It?s a pity to dismiss them then unless only one side matters.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 01:51:59 AM
The Guardian have a copy of Harry?s book Spare.

The Guardian got a copy of Harry?s book. In one passage, Harry claims that William physically attacked him after they got into a disagreement back in 2019.

Quote:
Harry writes that William wanted to talk about ?the whole rolling catastrophe? of their relationship and struggles with the press. But when William arrived at Nottingham Cottage ? where Harry was then living, in the grounds of Kensington Palace and known as ?Nott Cott? ? he was, Harry says, already ?piping hot?.

After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.

Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: ?Are you serious? Help me? Sorry ? is that what you call this? Helping me??

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: ?Willy, I can?t speak to you when you?re like this.?

He writes: ?He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog?s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.?

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned ?looking regretful, and apologised?.

When William left again, his brother writes, he ?turned and called back: ?You don?t need to tell Meg about this.?

??You mean that you attacked me??

??I didn?t attack you, Harold.??

Source

Prince Harry details physical attack by brother William in new book | Books | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 05, 2023, 02:10:11 AM
The Househusband of Montecito  :sarcastic:
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 05, 2023, 02:12:19 AM
Quote from: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 12:19:27 AM
There certainly are two sides to every story and that is what the Sussexes have been trying to make known for three years. It?s a pity to dismiss them then unless only one side matters.

I doubt the senior royals will do interviews or a reality show
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on January 05, 2023, 02:18:20 AM
Quote from: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 01:51:59 AM
The Guardian have a copy of Harry?s book Spare.

The Guardian got a copy of Harry?s book. In one passage, Harry claims that William physically attacked him after they got into a disagreement back in 2019.

Quote:
Harry writes that William wanted to talk about ?the whole rolling catastrophe? of their relationship and struggles with the press. But when William arrived at Nottingham Cottage ? where Harry was then living, in the grounds of Kensington Palace and known as ?Nott Cott? ? he was, Harry says, already ?piping hot?.

After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.

Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: ?Are you serious? Help me? Sorry ? is that what you call this? Helping me??

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: ?Willy, I can?t speak to you when you?re like this.?

He writes: ?He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog?s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.?

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned ?looking regretful, and apologised?.

When William left again, his brother writes, he ?turned and called back: ?You don?t need to tell Meg about this.?

??You mean that you attacked me??

??I didn?t attack you, Harold.??

Source

Prince Harry details physical attack by brother William in new book | Books | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book)
I thought that Harry and Meghan were no longer living in Nottingham Cottage in 2019 - that they had moved to Frogmore Cottage?
It doesn't make sense to respond to this excerpt from his book; Harry has already made tons of statements, but they are all from his point of view, and none of the RF members respond with their points of view, so what is the point? He can say anything he wants - and it is not rebutted as far as I can see. Also, he never takes any responsibility or ownership for any of the negative conflicts. Anyway, I don't intend to read the book. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on January 05, 2023, 02:26:05 AM
Quote from: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 12:19:27 AM
There certainly are two sides to every story and that is what the Sussexes have been trying to make known for three years. It?s a pity to dismiss them then unless only one side matters.
But why would you publish your opinion when it is so negative against someone you were once so close to? What does he hope to gain? Nobody responds because it would be like arguing a family matter in front of the entire world. I feel sorry for him in many ways and embarrassed for him in other ways.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 02:41:33 AM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on January 05, 2023, 02:26:05 AM
But why would you publish your opinion when it is so negative against someone you were once so close to? What does he hope to gain? Nobody responds because it would be like arguing a family matter in front of the entire world. I feel sorry for him in many ways and embarrassed for him in other ways.

Because Harry is trying to get something of his side of things out there in the face of the British media parroting what they have been told by KP and BP aides. He has quite obviously tried to get his and Meghan?s POV out to other members of the family many many times, without result.

He loves his wife and supports her 100%. He saw what happened during the years when they were working royals. We didn?t. We weren?t there.

And incidentally, it?s been known before that William has a temper. Robson RR, no friend of Harry?s, wrote in his Charles bio about William?s toe to toe shouting matches with his older (and shorter) father. Also it?s been reported that Camilla was surprised at William?s temper when she first got to know him. So I believe 100% that this is an honest account of one of the quarrels when William went too far.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 05, 2023, 03:40:06 AM
Like clockwork, the most devastating portion of Prince Harry autobiography, farcically claiming William physically attacked him, is leaked to the sympathetic left-wing Guardian newspaper to provide a soft landing.
Wills and Kate will never forgive the Sussexes. Nor should they.
Dan Wootton
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 04:00:47 AM
Quote from: wannable on January 05, 2023, 03:40:06 AM
Like clockwork, the most devastating portion of Prince Harry autobiography, farcically claiming William physically attacked him, is leaked to the sympathetic left-wing Guardian newspaper to provide a soft landing.
Wills and Kate will never forgive the Sussexes. Nor should they.
Dan Wootton

Farcical!!! That?s a laugh coming from a creature like Wootton, an individual who wouldn?t recognise truth if he fell over it in the dark! And if he knows so much about what the publisher and the Sussexes were up to why didn?t he predict it a couple of days ago? Oh, that?s right, the loathsome parasite of the Sun (that?s a misnomer, it never shines a light on anything) has lost the contacts he once had in KP once the Sussexes departed.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 05, 2023, 04:28:50 AM
They did know it was going to be a detailed attack trashing William.
I posted the quote about the minute detailed and commented on the article.
More to come against William and Kate.

We had agreed in the RIF to take your advice to wait for the book.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 04:38:57 AM
Quote from: wannable on January 05, 2023, 04:28:50 AM
They did know it was going to be a detailed attack trashing William.
I posted the quote about the minute detailed and commented on the article.
More to come against William and Kate.

We had agreed in the RIF to take your advice to wait for the book.

That was a guess by the Sun in my view. Other tabloids were playing guessing games as well for the past couple of weeks. And I am waiting for the book. I posted what the Guardian printed because it had a bonafide extract from Spare.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 05, 2023, 05:00:25 AM
Quote from: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 12:19:27 AM
There certainly are two sides to every story and that is what the Sussexes have been trying to make known for three years. It?s a pity to dismiss them then unless only one side matters.

Yes there are most certainly 2 sides to every story yet Harry's has made his life an open book of hate, rage and revenge against his family whom he knows will NOT say anything back to him ever......he plays that game for all to see. JUST how can anyone believe anything out of his mouth with ALL the LIES he and Meghan have said, lies after lies....I for one would never want a liar in my life as there would be NO TRUST yet that is me as so many seem to think that LYING is a great form of art or getting your own way by lying......And how he has treated his grandparents is just *evil* beyond anything else.   He is as far as I can believe finally DONE in the royal family......as he said......NO when asked by AC.  Oh Karma will definitely be taking huge bits out of him and Meghan sometime in the future, no doubt about it ever! And the world is watching him self-destruct all on his own doing.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 05, 2023, 05:05:29 AM
Quote from: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 02:41:33 AM
Because Harry is trying to get something of his side of things out there in the face of the British media parroting what they have been told by KP and BP aides. He has quite obviously tried to get his and Meghan?s POV out to other members of the family many many times, without result.

How many more years does the world have to hear of Harry and Meghan's story, they have been at it for 3 years now...more or less.   Same *lies* as before and again the same, don't they ever get tired of hearing themselves tell the same over and over and over again?  How much more attention, adulation, hero worshiping do they need to feel good about themselves?
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 05, 2023, 05:53:21 AM
Well with 5 days remaining before the official release of the book,  I predict that we will be treated to an onslaught of past Windsor family feuds, an array of Harry and William in happier  days,  a recap of old dust ups with the paparazzi from the nightclub years  and never ending  analysis from the experts.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 05, 2023, 07:54:33 AM
Questions?   Harry has written his book, there were a series of TV shows with him and Meghan, there are podcasts, TV interviews, interviews with friends or whomever ....if I am leaving anything out please correct me.   And there are now rumors of Meghan and her book which I can believe as she has been known to keep a diary of her life whenever the need arises.  So with Harry getting what......as reported....20 million dollars, who here would not love to make 20 million for writing about their life, do you think Harry will finally be *happy*, *content*, *find peace within himself* * will finally do something besides tell his story over and over again* or will he do basically nothing with his life, just be an at home dad?  Maybe doing dishes without a dishwasher or doing the laundry and folding his clothes or cleaning the bathroom or more bathrooms........will help him to realize how damn fortunate he has had it in life?  He has NO idea about ordinary people, he sees through them as he can not contact with them as he does not live their lifestyle...think he knows what spark plugs are in a car....highly doubt it! 

So my question is....what will it take for Harry to find his peace of mind as this bashing and telling lies and backstabbing will never bring the royal family back to him again as there is NO TRUSTING it won't end up on Netflix or in a book or a new TV interview.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 09:01:55 AM
Harry learned vehicle mechanics and maintenance in the army. He and his brother rode motorbikes and learned to maintain them. He was also trained at his prep boarding school to put clothing away, make his bed, keep things neat. All boarding schools teach their pupils that. That would have continued at Eton, and at Sandhurst. As for servants, he wouldn?t have had any at Nott Cott, a cleaner maybe a couple of times a week. He was often seen by people on social media shopping for food, steaks and veg quite a bit, in the local supermarket in Kensington High St.

I very much doubt that he and Meghan have dozens of servants at their disposal at home, so yes both he and Meghan almost certainly make beds, cook, clean bathrooms, vacuum living spaces etc and look after their children.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 05, 2023, 09:52:27 AM
Even though he did all that as did Meghan, that was not Harry's upbringing or lifestyle at all. He did not live like that for decades like you and I do, we are the ordinary people of the world, not the rich and famous.  Only living like we do, fixing our own meals, paying our own bills in life, taking out the garbage, washing and ironing our own clothes...just ordinary way of life for millions of us, that is a lifestyle he did not live for his life, he had every done for him as we have seen how BP/or whomever has cleaned up after him so many times and pls don't say they didn't.  No way does Harry understand what an ordinary life is like......one thing I think is true is that NObody has ever said NO to Harry, he just assumes he is getting security for the rest of his life after running away from the royal family to Canada or elsewhere.  That is one of the issues he has with the royal family to this day. We grow as children in learning to share our toys, eat our foods and make our beds, Being told NO I am sure is something new to Harry and that is the fault of his family........he has NO discipline in his life, it seems to me he goes around assuming that his life will be the same wherever he lives, someone else always pays the bills, someone else cleans the house, someone else fixes things for him as we have seen for decades.........he is acting like a spoiled brat, being on a war path of hate and revenge does nobody good and the one who gets hurt most of all in the end is HARRY.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 10:42:17 AM
Nobody is denying that being a royal is very different from the lives of the vast majority of the population.

However, decades of never doing anything for himself or receiving any discipline? Harry was at boarding school before he was nine years old. British boarding schools are very disciplined places. If he had disobeyed the rules at Ludgrove or at Eton (and that would have included clearing up after himself and making his bed, same as his brother) would have meant punishments. And the boarding schools the Princes attended had about eight weeks of holidays per year, so the vast majority of time would be spent at school.

Then after Eton Harry went for training for several years at Sandhurst, a Services Academy. I think we can safely say there was plenty of discipline in that establishment. And after that there was ten years in the Army and Air Services. I hope you aren?t suggesting that the British forces are an undisciplined shower who allow officers and men to get away with murder at any time. And there are certainly no servants washing clothing and making beds for young army and air services officers at airfields, especially in Afghanistan. There are washing machines and army personnel do their own laundry.

Harry received a salary as an Army officer. He certainly knew the value of money, as there were many reports on SM of his using his services discount card at stores in London. And as I said before he was often seen grocery shopping around Kensington. He wouldn?t have been shopping for servants to cook his meals.

So I don?t know where all this lazing around BP or CH for decades comes from. Not at prep school, not at Eton, not at Sandhurst, not in his Army days, not during his deployment in Afghanistan. And at FC friends were surprised that the couple had no cook. I hardly think Harry would be sitting on his rear allowing Meghan, a new mum, to be doing all the food prep and all the housework, so no lazing around as a new husband and father either.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: dianab on January 05, 2023, 11:14:54 AM
Diana will be ashamed of William! Nothing excuse this violence!

Prince Harry says brother William physically attacked him after calling Meghan 'difficult' and rude' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11600691/Prince-Harry-says-brother-William-physically-attacked-calling-Meghan-difficult-rude.html)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 05, 2023, 11:28:18 AM
Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace are not responding to Prince Harry leaked claims from his memoir that William physically attacked his brother or that it was it was William and Kate idea for him to wear a Nazi uniform to an infamous fancy dress party.

Similarly there is no comment from the palace on Harry description of their father pleading with them after an anguished meeting post Prince Philip funeral: Please, boys, don?t make my final years a misery.

Richard Palmer
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 05, 2023, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 10:42:17 AM
Nobody is denying that being a royal is very different from the lives of the vast majority of the population.

However, decades of never doing anything for himself or receiving any discipline? Harry was at boarding school before he was nine years old. British boarding schools are very disciplined places. If he had disobeyed the rules at Ludgrove or at Eton (and that would have included clearing up after himself and making his bed, same as his brother) would have meant punishments. And the boarding schools the Princes attended had about eight weeks of holidays per year, so the vast majority of time would be spent at school.

Then after Eton Harry went for training for several years at Sandhurst, a Services Academy. I think we can safely say there was plenty of discipline in that establishment. And after that there was ten years in the Army and Air Services. I hope you aren?t suggesting that the British forces are an undisciplined shower who allow officers and men to get away with murder at any time. And there are certainly no servants washing clothing and making beds for young army and air services officers at airfields, especially in Afghanistan. There are washing machines and army personnel do their own laundry.

Harry received a salary as an Army officer. He certainly knew the value of money, as there were many reports on SM of his using his services discount card at stores in London. And as I said before he was often seen grocery shopping around Kensington. He wouldn?t have been shopping for servants to cook his meals.

So I don?t know where all this lazing around BP or CH for decades comes from. Not at prep school, not at Eton, not at Sandhurst, not in his Army days, not during his deployment in Afghanistan. And at FC friends were surprised that the couple had no cook. I hardly think Harry would be sitting on his rear allowing Meghan, a new mum, to be doing all the food prep and all the housework, so no lazing around as a new husband and father eith


How does anyone know this for a FACT?  Did they have cameras filming them the entire time and still do ?   I seriously doubt all that about Harry........if anything he is more like his uncle Andrew(at least Andrew keeps his mouth shut and doesn't mind being a spare as Edward does the same being another spare)  as being arrogant and selfish then anything.  Just why now when he says he wants his dad and brother back .....for what reason? To write another book and tell more LIES?   As someone elsewhere said.........they left, good by!  How anyone *trust* a LAIR is beyond me!  Personally for me, I am glad they left, the BRF does not need them to full fill the job.  Stay in Ca and ride the ponies Harry .....that is all he is good for anymore.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 05, 2023, 11:35:55 AM
They allegedly have a gardener and housekeeper, the latter changed several times over.

*****
How convenient for #PrinceHarry and #Meghan that a copy of #Spare has been leaked to the #Guardian, a newspaper that has supported abolition of the monarchy for more than two decades. Will they condemn the Guardian as they regularly do the Daily Mail? I won't hold my breath.

The leaks were purposeful to distract from the Mandela backlash, and create buzz for the book which is about 1.3 million copies away from the needed 1.7 million sales to break even.  @jammyholt is pals with the person who leaked the story.  And Jammy is a known leaker!

Richard Eden
Evans E.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 05, 2023, 11:40:32 AM
There is a difference between offloading crates of books to stores, hence offloading to #1 than actual purchases by individuals. The above leak has been confirmed by at this time more than a half dozen RR.

It is a good strategy. The leak of a alleged fight between brothers.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 11:48:53 AM
What do you mean. It is a fact that Harry went to two boarding schools that had discipline. It?s a fact that there was eight weeks holiday a year. If you are at school you aren?t running wild at home having ?servants picking up after you.? Are you doubting that Harry went to boarding schools between the ages of eight to eighteen? Because if you are there are plenty of news reports and photos to back it all up.

And Harry certainly went to Sandhurst. That is also on record. He was photographed as an army officer so he certainly went into the Army, and there are reports of him from Canada and the US on courses learning to fly helicopters, so that takes him to his mid twenties. And he was certainly in Afghanistan twice. Photos and reports there.

The reports that friends were surprised that Meghan cooked many of the meals and that in his bachelor days Harry shopped for groceries appeared in newspaper reports. They didnt need cameras. There were photos of Harry leaving the supermarkets and reports from other shoppers as to what he bought. I remember Boots the chemists was one where other shoppers noticed him buying hay fever tablets and sun creams. People notice when a royal is in a shop.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: wannable on January 05, 2023, 11:35:55 AM
They allegedly have a gardener and housekeeper, the latter changed several times over.

*****
How convenient for #PrinceHarry and #Meghan that a copy of #Spare has been leaked to the #Guardian, a newspaper that has supported abolition of the monarchy for more than two decades. Will they condemn the Guardian as they regularly do the Daily Mail? I won't hold my breath.

The leaks were purposeful to distract from the Mandela backlash, and create buzz for the book which is about 1.3 million copies away from the needed 1.7 million sales to break even.  @jammyholt is pals with the person who leaked the story.  And Jammy is a known leaker!

Richard Eden
Evans E.

Yes, Richard Eden of the Fail is of the same stamp as Wootton. And employed by a rag which lost a court case against Meghan and hasn?t got over it!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: wannable on January 05, 2023, 11:35:55 AM
They allegedly have a gardener and housekeeper, the latter changed several times over.

*****
How convenient for #PrinceHarry and #Meghan that a copy of #Spare has been leaked to the #Guardian, a newspaper that has supported abolition of the monarchy for more than two decades. Will they condemn the Guardian as they regularly do the Daily Mail? I won't hold my breath.

The leaks were purposeful to distract from the Mandela backlash, and create buzz for the book which is about 1.3 million copies away from the needed 1.7 million sales to break even.  @jammyholt is pals with the person who leaked the story.  And Jammy is a known leaker!

Richard Eden
Evans E.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 11:59:18 AM
Allegedly isn?t proof. Do they have a housekeeper at Montecito? Well they may have, but who has ever seen her, or heard from any of these numerous individuals that have left or been fired . They can?t all be invisible women! Plus in my posts I was writing about the Sussexes at Nott Cott and FC not California.

And as for book sales I?d rather believe my husband?s friend than Eden. Any day of the week.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 05, 2023, 06:45:43 PM
Oh dear. I can't believe what I've read in the last couple of hours especially about Prince Harry's early romantic escapades.  :blink:
I'm sorry but I cannot believe that the ghost writer has helped Prince Harry in anyway.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 07:17:18 PM
Prince Harry recounts losing his virginity to older woman in a FIELD as biography is leaked | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11602849/Prince-Harry-recounts-losing-virginity-older-woman-FIELD-biography-leaked.html)

Harry claims Charles joked 'Who is your real father?' amid Diana rumour | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602603/Harry-claims-Charles-joked-real-father-amid-Diana-rumour.html)

Harry stooped to revealing a private remark from Charles at Philip's funeral, says REBECCA ENGLISH | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602343/Harry-stooped-revealing-private-remark-Charles-Philips-funeral-says-REBECCA-ENGLISH.html)

Prince Harry 'begged Prince Charles not to marry Camilla', new book claims | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602375/Prince-Harry-begged-Prince-Charles-not-marry-Camilla-new-book-claims.html)

Stony-faced Charles emerges as Harry crosses King's 'red line' with attack on Camilla in his memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603379/Stony-faced-Charles-emerges-Harry-crosses-Kings-red-line-attack-Camilla-memoir.html)
King Charles really embarrassed on Harry?s books!!

Prince Harry brands Prince William his 'beloved brother and ARCH-NEMESIS' in explosive memoir | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602359/Prince-Harry-brands-Prince-William-beloved-brother-ARCH-NEMESIS-explosive-memoir.html)

Prince Harry reveals he killed 25 Taliban fighters during second tour of duty in Afghanistan | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602975/Prince-Harry-reveals-killed-25-Taliban-fighters-second-tour-duty-Afghanistan.html)

Prince Harry contacted a psychic to reach his late mother Diana | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603541/Prince-Harry-contacted-psychic-reach-late-mother-Diana.html)

Prince Harry recalls watching 'nightmare' 9/11 attack unfold at age 16 with 'stunned' pals | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603057/Prince-Harry-recalls-watching-nightmare-9-11-attack-unfold-age-16-stunned-pals.html)

Prince Harry claims King Charles didn't hug him after Diana's death | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11602779/Prince-Harry-claims-King-Charles-didnt-hug-Dianas-death.html)

How Prince William and Kate Middleton were initially a Fab Three with Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11601849/How-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-initially-Fab-Three-Prince-Harry.html)

Prince Harry's book: Duke reveals he took *** a 'few times' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602447/Prince-Harrys-book-Duke-reveals-took-***-times.html)

Meghan was 'offended' when she was 'reprimanded' for insulting Kate | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602431/Meghan-offended-reprimanded-insulting-Kate.html)

Prince Harry walks his dog in California rain before 'claims he was attacked by William over Meghan' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602085/Prince-Harry-walks-dog-California-rain-claims-attacked-William-Meghan.html)

American media reacts to Prince Harry's 'whine tour' to promote his memoir Spare | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602211/American-media-reacts-Prince-Harrys-whine-tour-promote-memoir-Spare.html)

Michael Strahan says Prince Harry's book Spare will 'drop a lot of jaws' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602485/Michael-Strahan-says-Prince-Harrys-book-Spare-drop-lot-jaws.html)

Prince Harry's favorite book at Eton was Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603059/Prince-Harrys-favorite-book-Eton-Steinbecks-Mice-Men.html)

Harry claims William and Kate TOLD him to wear Nazi uniform - and is angry they escaped blame | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601319/Harry-claims-William-Kate-TOLD-wear-Nazi-uniform-angry-escaped-blame.html)

A look at Prince Harry's longstanding relation with therapy | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11601757/A-look-Prince-Harrys-longstanding-relation-therapy.html)

Prince Harry's book: William '''pointed a finger'' at Meghan and called her ''rude''' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html)

'Harry, you need to shut up': Royal Marine friend urges Duke to 'stop' making revelations | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603591/Harry-need-shut-Royal-Marine-friend-urges-Duke-stop-making-revelations.html)

'I didn't know p*** was an insult': Harry says he didn't know slur was racist due to his privilege | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603323/I-didnt-know-p-insult-Harry-says-didnt-know-slur-racist-privilege.html)

Denise Welch locks horns with Jane Moore in heated row over Prince Harry on Loose Women | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11602949/Denise-Welch-locks-horns-Jane-Moore-heated-row-Prince-Harry-Loose-Women.html)

So who WOULD win in a fight between Harry and William? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601741/So-win-fight-Harry-William.html)

Charles told Diana 'my work is done' on the day of Prince Harry's birth, Duke claims in book | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601511/Charles-told-Diana-work-day-Prince-Harrys-birth-Duke-claims-book.html)

Prince Harry says brother William physically attacked him after calling Meghan 'difficult' and rude' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11600691/Prince-Harry-says-brother-William-physically-attacked-calling-Meghan-difficult-rude.html)
Battle brothers!! And bloody brothers!! But no truce of between of two brothers not since 2019 and nobody talk for two years

How fights used to erupt between Edward VIII and George VI | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601827/How-fights-used-erupt-Edward-VIII-George-VI.html)
Not back to 100 years ago exact to 1907 between two former King George VI and King Edward VIII they now Duke of Windsor if both George VI and Edward VIII was here today from heaven both not like that from William and Harry need good bond of friendship and siblings

Charles's plea to warring William and Harry after Prince Philip's funeral revealed in bombshell book | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11600661/Charless-plea-warring-William-Harry-Prince-Philips-funeral-revealed-bombshell-book.html)

Prince Harry refuses to say if he will go to his father's coronation in new ITV trailer | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11601851/Prince-Harry-refuses-say-fathers-coronation-new-ITV-trailer.html)

How did the Guardian get hold of Harry's book Spare? Questions as autobiography leaks in the US | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11600813/How-did-Guardian-hold-Harrys-book-Spare-Questions-autobiography-leaks-US.html)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
Meghan Markle Comment on Kate Middleton's Baby Brain Caused Fight (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-fight-comment-baby-brain-prince-harry-memoir/)

Prince Harry Felt Prince William Was Gone After Wedding to Kate Middleton (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-reflects-prince-william-kate-middleton-wedding-brother-gone-forever/)

Prince Harry Relived the Exact Moment His Mother Died in Paris Tunnel (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-drove-same-tunnel-princess-diana-died-same-speed-excerpt-spare/)

Prince Harry Says Kate Middleton, Prince William Told Him to Wear Nazi Costume (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-kate-middleton-prince-william-told-him-wear-nazi-costume-spare-reports/)

Prince Harry Calls Prince William His Beloved Brother and Archnemesis in Book (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-calls-prince-william-beloved-brother-archnemesis-book/)

Prince Harry Says Prince William Attacked Him In Memoir Extract Leak (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-claims-prince-william-attacked-him-in-leaked-memoir-extract/)

Prince Harry Addresses Whether He'll Attend King Charles' Coronation (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-addresses-attend-king-charles-coronation-ball-in-their-court/)

Prince Harry reveals heartbreaking details about Princess Diana's death - live updates | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160999/prince-harry-book-spare-available-to-buy-spain-mistake/)

Prince William and Prince Harry's relationship through the years before fall-out - see photos | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160992/prince-william-prince-harry-best-brother-moments-before-feud/)

Prince Harry believed Princess Diana was in hiding after her death - details from his book | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105161045/prince-harry-believed-princess-diana-hiding-after-death/)

William and Harry beware - six times royal brother relationships turned nasty | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105161035/prince-william-prince-harry-royal-brothers-history-fall-out/)
That explain about history of royal brothers turned nasty not back to Harold Godwinson and Tostig in 1066 for 957 years but they NOW William and Harry?s great grandfather the King George VI and his Great-Great-great uncle King Edward VIII they now Duke of Windsor

Prince Harry removes 'mystery from the magic of monarchy' with Spare says royal biographer | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160995/british-royal-journalist-reacts-prince-harry-claims-william-confrontation/)

Prince Harry addresses attendance at King Charles' coronation - watch video | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160981/prince-harry-refuses-to-commit-attendance-king-charles-coronation/)

Buckingham Palace's reaction revealed following Prince Harry's shock claims about Prince William in autobiography Spare | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160971/king-charles-royal-family-respond-allegations-prince-harry-book-spare-physical-altercation/)

King Charles's heartbreaking plea to sons Prince William and Prince Harry revealed | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160968/king-charles-heartbreaking-plea-william-harry-prince-philip-funeral-spare/)

Prince William and Kate Middleton approved of Nazi costume says Prince Harry in Spare | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160967/prince-william-kate-middleton-approved-of-harry-nazi-costume-spare/)

Prince Harry details extraordinary physical fight with Prince William in leaked Spare extract | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160965/prince-harry-extraordinary-claims-spare-prince-william-attack/)

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230104160808/prince-harry-biggest-scandals-drugs-rehab-royal-exit/

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 08:02:55 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64179164

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64170469

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-64174558

Prince Harry opens up about how he learned of Diana's car accident among other revelations in new book Spare | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602)

Harry's book leaked: Prince alleges he was physically attacked by William | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/harrys-book-leaked-prince-alleges-he-was-physically-attacked-by-william-12780164)

Prince Harry says 'ball is in their court' for family reconciliation | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-says-ball-is-in-their-court-for-family-reconciliation-12780271)

Prince Harry tell-all memoir does not bode well for reconciliation hopes | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/05/prince-harry-tell-all-memoir-spare-not-bode-well-reconciliation-hopes)

Prince Harry says woman with ?powers? relayed message from Diana | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/05/prince-harry-diana-new-book-autobiography-spare)

Prince Harry details physical attack by brother William in new book | Books | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book)

Harry?s allegations are not just about a royal fist fight ? but the very real dangers of hereditary power | Gaby Hinsliff | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/05/prince-harry-royal-fist-fight-power-monarchy-heir)

Harry reveals he killed 25 Taliban fighters in Afghanistan like 'chess pieces off board' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717537/Prince-Harry-Taliban-fighters-Afghanistan-kill-army-tour)

King Charles pictured hours after Harry claimed he begged son not make his life a misery | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717552/King-Charles-pictures-Sandringham-Prince-Harry-book-spare)

The two word comment 'Meghan said to Kate' which ignited tensions | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717433/Meghan-Markle-Kate-Princess-of-Wales-comment-Prince-Harry-Spare)

King Charles pictured hours after Harry claimed he begged son not make his life a misery | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717552/King-Charles-pictures-Sandringham-Prince-Harry-book-spare)

Prince Harry was told Meghan 'not welcome' on Queen death bed after 'astonishing' request | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717391/prince-harry-meghan-markle-queen-death-bed-royal-family-spare)

Prince Harry's book and interviews?The 10 biggest bombshells so far | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717338/prince-harry-book-interviews-spt)

Meghan and Prince Harry 'jeopardising' royal peace with key mistake, brand expert warns | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717408/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-peace-Royal-Family-risk-dxus)

Prince Harry and Queen Camilla: Inside fraught relationship as explosive claims unfold | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717540/prince-harry-queen-camilla-relationship-book-spt)

Prince Harry sensationally admits he took cocaine to 'feel different' as a teen | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717534/prince-harry-***-drugs-spare-book-royal-news)

Harry questioned over claims he wants relationship with William after 'trashing' Firm | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717468/prince-harry-news-richard-fitzwilliams-spare-memoir-claims-prince-william-latest)

Prince Harry labels Prince William his 'arch-nemesis' in explosive book, ABC anchor claims | US | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/1717399/prince-harry-prince-william-arch-nemesis-spare-memoir-dxus)

Harry compares meeting with 'threatening' William and Charles to 'going into battle' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717470/Harry-book-spare-william-charles-meeting)

Prince Harry shares royal 'truth' in latest interview 'The heir was jealous of the spare' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717467/prince-harry-spare-memoir-william-interview-gma-latest-dxus)

Harry compares first meeting Camilla to an injection and 'begged' Charles not to marry her | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717455/prince-harry-king-charles-iii-queen-camilla-book-spt)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717429/prince-harry-betrayed-press-coverage-dan-wootton

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717342/Prince-Harry-memoir-Spare-Duke-Duchess-of-Sussex-reputation-dxus

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717236/Prince-Harry-book-spare-Kate-middleton-William-Nazi-uniform

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717301/prince-harry-didnt-tell-meghan-markle-prince-william-physical-attack

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717282/Prince-Harry-book-Spare-Prince-William-King-Charles-feud-warning-dxus

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717183/harry-prince-William-king-Charles-desperate-plea-royal-ont

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-05/extracts-show-harry-saved-the-most-dangerous-and-gruesome-detail-for-his-book

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-05/duke-of-sussex-claims-william-physically-attacked-him-in-leaked-extract-of-book

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-05/what-fresh-claims-has-prince-harry-made-against-the-royals

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-05/prince-harrys-autobiography-appears-in-spanish-stores-ahead-of-publication

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-05/harry-says-he-wont-stay-silent-and-refuses-to-commit-to-his-fathers-coronation

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-05/the-queens-death-has-done-nothing-to-heal-wounds-between-harry-and-royal-family

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 08:32:55 PM
Prince Harry claims King Charles 'did not hug' him when he learned of Diana's death - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-claims-king-charles-28880450)

Prince Harry lost virginity in field behind pub to older woman who liked 'macho horses' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-lost-virginity-field-28885135)

Meghan's steely response after William 'pointed his finger at her during row' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghans-steely-response-after-william-28883011)

Harry 'begged' Charles not to marry Camilla and accuses her of leaking stories - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/breaking-harry-begged-charles-not-28880477)

Prince Harry breaks silence over 'sadistic' rumour that James Hewitt is his real dad - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-breaks-silence-over-28883537)

Expert predicts Kate Middleton will pay 'high price' for Prince Harry's tell-all memoir - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/expert-predicts-kate-middleton-pay-28878237)

Prince Harry received birthday present from mum Diana weeks after her tragic death - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-received-birthday-present-28885747)

Prince William 'ordered plane to leave without Harry' as they rushed to see dying Queen - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-ordered-plane-leave-28878770)

Prince Harry claims King Charles joked 'who knows if I'm even your real father?' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-claims-king-charles-28885002)

Prince Harry says he killed 25 people in Afghanistan during second tour of duty - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-says-killed-25-28884188)

Prince Harry knocked to the floor by William in Meghan Markle row, claims new book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-knocked-floor-william-28878259)

Prince Harry kept 'eye on' William for strength as they walked behind Diana's coffin - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-kept-eye-on-28885319)

Kate and Meghan's infamous bridesmaid dress row - 'baby brain' remark and peace offering - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/kate-meghans-infamous-bridesmaid-dress-28884022)

Harry's 'loneliness' as Charles and Will fight proved they 'didn't understand him at all' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harrys-loneliness-charles-fight-proved-28883779)

'Disgusted' Prince Harry signals he's been dealt a 'blow' in new trailer, says expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/disgusted-prince-harry-signals-hes-28884285)

Prince Harry has 'changed public opinion with bombshell claims about William attack' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/prince-harry-changed-public-opinion-28880307)

William's 'attack' and Charles' cruel joke - 5 ugly claims from Prince Harry's book leak - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/williams-attack-charles-cruel-joke-28878761)

Prince Harry suggests 'heir was jealous of the spare' in bombshell US interview - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/prince-harry-suggests-heir-jealous-28879793)

Meghan's response to 'angry black woman' trope as 'difficult' claim resurfaces in Harry's book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghans-clapback-angry-black-woman-28881015)

Prince Harry spotted for first time on dog walk since bombshell William attack claims - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-spotted-first-time-28882150)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-forced-hit-back-28880625

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-says-william-kate-28878689

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/prince-harry-william-protective-wives-28881932

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/first-person-harry-made-urgent-28880818

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-joked-hed-obviously-28880373

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/king-charles-savage-joke-princess-28878592

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-williams-bizarre-nicknames-28879666

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/all-harry-wants-lay-bare-28885618

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-admits-taking-***-28884769

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20948546/prince-harry-accuses-camilla-leaking-stories/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20952058/prince-harry-cocaine-memoir/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20949939/princess-kate-meghan-markle-baby-brain/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20951522/harry-killed-afghanistan-job/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20948335/harry-william-feared-camilla-wicked-stepmother/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20944547/prince-harry-william-kate-middleton-nazi-uniform-party/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20946924/prince-harry-dog-walk-breaks-cover/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20944177/harry-says-william-attacked-him-meg/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20948011/prince-harry-veiled-swipe-princess-diana/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20945125/prince-harry-wants-to-go-to-coronation/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20754144/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-royal-family/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20944135/prince-harry-reconciliation-royal-family-itv-interview/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20950405/harry-meghan-not-welcome-at-coronation/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20954198/prince-harry-friend-ben-mcbean-royal-marines-reacts-spare/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20949662/prince-harry-william-arch-nemesis-competition-good-morning-america/
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 08:54:05 PM
Prince Harry reportedly claims in new book that William attacked him in feud over his and Meghan's treatment - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-prince-william-fight-reported-the-guardian-new-book-spare/)

How to watch Prince Harry's 60 Minutes interview with Anderson Cooper on Sunday - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-to-watch-prince-harry-60-minutes-interview-anderson-cooper-cbs-news/)

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/prince-harry-alleges-memoir-prince-william-physically-attacked-96229347

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/prince-harry-speaks-memoir-spare-interview-michael-strahan-96200971

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/prince-harry-father-brother-back-new-interview-96089621

Prince Harry: William attack claim, drugs admission and concerns about Camilla detailed in reports on royal's new book | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/europe/prince-harry-book-prince-william-physical-attack-intl-hnk/index.html)

Difficult, rude and abrasive: The words that allegedly started a physical altercation between William and Harry | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/01/05/prince-harry-book-meghan-markle-revelations-royal-family-cnntm-contd-vpx.cnn)

Prince Harry claims in memoir William once physically attacked him during argument over Meghan Markle: report | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-claims-memoir-william-once-physically-attacked-him-during-argument-meghan-markle)

Prince Harry's book 'might be the final nail in the coffin' as the palace braces itself for impact: experts | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harrys-book-might-be-final-nail-coffin-palace-braces-itself-impact-experts)

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 09:15:05 PM
King Charles,Queen Camilla and members of the royal family will not comment about Harry?s memoir book it?s very private business,its very private matters and family business matters but Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace will remain silent on Harry?s memoir books same Netflix last December but no details about Harry?s book but its hurtful in memoir and embarrassed I don?t think Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace makes statements will remain silents same last December 2022 last time Prince William told Harry that his memoir books straightened to book store not to Buckingham Palace or Kensington Palace
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on January 05, 2023, 09:39:29 PM
I don't see how anyone who has made all of the accusations about his own family to a world-wide audience can also say he wants his family back. That is something I would expect from a recalcitrant child. But as an adult he should know they can't respond without a ridiculous he said-he said back and forth discussion in the public sphere, and if he didn't someone (his wife, his friends, his ghost writer, or his editor) should have told him and prevented this total embarrassment. Of course, the book will sell because of the curiosity factor over what he has written. The publishers win.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on January 05, 2023, 09:50:57 PM
Quote from: Curryong on January 05, 2023, 02:41:33 AM
Because Harry is trying to get something of his side of things out there in the face of the British media parroting what they have been told by KP and BP aides. He has quite obviously tried to get his and Meghan?s POV out to other members of the family many many times, without result.

He loves his wife and supports her 100%. He saw what happened during the years when they were working royals. We didn?t. We weren?t there.

And incidentally, it?s been known before that William has a temper. Robson RR, no friend of Harry?s, wrote in his Charles bio about William?s toe to toe shouting matches with his older (and shorter) father. Also it?s been reported that Camilla was surprised at William?s temper when she first got to know him. So I believe 100% that this is an honest account of one of the quarrels when William went too far.
He's already told plenty of negative stuff a few times without ever accepting or owning any of the blame for the rift or his own actions.   
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 10:29:57 PM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on January 05, 2023, 09:39:29 PM
I don't see how anyone who has made all of the accusations about his own family to a world-wide audience can also say he wants his family back. That is something I would expect from a recalcitrant child. But as an adult he should know they can't respond without a ridiculous he said-he said back and forth discussion in the public sphere, and if he didn't someone (his wife, his friends, his ghost writer, or his editor) should have told him and prevented this total embarrassment. Of course, the book will sell because of the curiosity factor over what he has written. The publishers win.

Absolutely true but King Charles and member of the royal family will not comment on Harry?s memoir books its very private matters and private business
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
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Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 05, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Does putting your sexual experience out there Harry really sell books?  If anyone can spin this in a good way, please let me know.  Harry is being made a fool by the ghost writers of this book I think, he just shot himself right through his heart without even knowing it. 

And to think that even though they were the Taliban men, they were still human beings and for Harry to clarify them as chess pieces is on Harry and makes him look EVIL and SOULLESS and don't tell me it was war only.  Even in war opposite sides still at times help those wounded and no way should Harry ever be allow back with wounded vets after saying that.   

Absolutely NO way back into the royal family now Harry, you have Meghan, live with it ....LOL
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 10:47:55 PM
Don Lemon slams 'gauche' Prince Harry for airing dirty laundry in new book Spare  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603573/Don-Lemon-slams-gauche-Prince-Harry-airing-dirty-laundry-new-book-Spare.html)

CALLAHAN: Harry hasn't only recently become enraged at William for merely existing. He always has | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603989/CALLAHAN-Harry-recently-enraged-William-merely-existing-has.html)

Prince Harry suggests the Queen 'exiled' Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson in royal cemetery | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11603071/Prince-Harry-suggests-Queen-exiled-Edward-VIII-Wallis-Simpson-royal-cemetery.html)

Prince Harry recalls driving through the same tunnel where Princess Diana died at the same speed | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11603427/Prince-Harry-recalls-driving-tunnel-Princess-Diana-died-speed.html)

Prince Harry is like a 'child in a playground by shifting Nazi costume blame on Kate and William' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11604037/Prince-Harry-like-child-playground-shifting-Nazi-costume-blame-Kate-William.html)

Ex-rugby ace James Haskell pokes fun at Prince Harry's claim that William pushed him over in 2019 | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11603903/Ex-rugby-ace-James-Haskell-pokes-fun-Prince-Harrys-claim-William-pushed-2019.html)

Prince Harry Vowed to Leave Afghanistan with His 'Conscience Intact,' He Writes in Memoir (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-vowed-leave-afghanistan-conscience-intact-spare-memoir/)

Prince Harry Claims King Charles Thanked Diana for Giving Him a Spare (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-claims-king-charles-thanked-princess-diana-giving-him-spare/)

We knew there was a rift between Harry and William - but now we know just how deep it runs | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/we-knew-there-was-a-rift-between-harry-and-william-but-now-we-know-just-how-deep-it-runs-12780776)

Prince Harry book: The 10 most explosive moments from Duke's bombshell memoir | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717653/prince-harry-book-spare-10-most-explosive-moments-royal-family-latest)

Prince Harry's Taliban comments are ?stab in the back? for British Army, says ex commander | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717636/prince-harry-spare-memoir-taliban-claims-british-army)

'Sold his soul': Harry's bombshell book kills off hopes of reconciliation with his family | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717621/prince-harry-book-spare-william-meghan-markle-royal-family-news)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: Nightowl on January 05, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Does putting your sexual experience out there Harry really sell books?  If anyone can spin this in a good way, please let me know.  Harry is being made a fool by the ghost writers of this book I think, he just shot himself right through his heart without even knowing it. 

And to think that even though they were the Taliban men, they were still human beings and for Harry to clarify them as chess pieces is on Harry and makes him look EVIL and SOULLESS and don't tell me it was war only.  Even in war opposite sides still at times help those wounded and no way should Harry ever be allow back with wounded vets after saying that.   

Absolutely NO way back into the royal family now Harry, you have Meghan, live with it ....LOL

I?m agreed with you Harry definitely fool to write his own book but he admit tell all in explosive memoir books he is first royal to tell all more embarrassed his family,his father and Prince William
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 05, 2023, 11:15:37 PM
Prince Harry branded 'traitor' as explosive book allegations leave William 'devastated' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-branded-traitor-explosive-28886700)

Prince Harry used racist slur about Pakistani soldier after 'hearing word used as child' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-used-racist-slur-28886721)

'Diana would be heartbroken at her two boys divided, like two strangers at war' - Polly Hudson - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/diana-would-heartbroken-two-boys-28886313)
If Diana was here today from heaven and she react Harry?s claims on William?s push on Harry im not blame Prince of Wales because William is heir of the throne Harry is spare

Harry made chauffeur repeatedly drive through Paris tunnel at exact speed Diana crashed - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-made-chauffeur-repeatedly-drive-28886203)

Prince Harry insists he thought the 'P-word' was 'harmless' when he used it to describe a Pakistani soldier in 2006 | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20955594/prince-harry-p-word-harmless-pakistani-soldier/)

Prince Harry reveals heartbreaking moment he was told about Diana's death and says he pretended she was 'hiding' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20955052/prince-harry-moment-told-diana-dead/)

I'm a royal expert and a lot of what Harry is saying about King Charles isn't true | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20954718/royal-expert-prince-harry-claims-king-charles-untrue/)

How Harry's battle with William echoes that of the bitter feud between our last two kings - Edward VIII and George VI | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20954140/prince-harry-william-feud-edward-viii-george-vi/)

Our once most popular Royal, Harry has become a pitiable figure consumed by anger | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20954986/prince-harry-pitiable-figure-consumed-anger/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on January 06, 2023, 12:04:26 AM
Henry is a fool who is a special kind of stupid.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 06, 2023, 03:50:18 AM
^Know what is funny and sad at the same time.....in reading all this on social media and news alerts I got to thinking, authors are always writing novels about any royal family, and 99% if it is fake, this is real, Harry is telling his story and it is making him look so foolish and nasty more than any author could write .....something has to give, Harry for the rest of his life can not keep doing this day in and day out....telling lies, telling family issues that do not belong outside the family.  Oh he is surely going to regret this when Meghan is done with him....he has totally underestimated his wife  as has most everyone else. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on January 06, 2023, 06:49:08 AM
At @Nightowl   I agree
Henry is running out of new ammunition as he has not been around KC, W, and Cam, Cath since Jan 2020
He has really said a lot of good juicy lies, truths, half truths and yet nothing really surprising. Some of the things are just personal that can only cause hurt feelings. Exa,pmole. He says William did not their father to marry Camilla.
I would that is true, common sense. I would assume that was a private conversation between Will and Harry.
This was over 15 20 years ago when it was public knowledge C and C were a couple, and even when they got engaged, married.
Since then, a long time, very long time, years, years , years ago when William was a young adult . In college. Before William became father, husband, married, engage, helicopter rescue pilot, etc.

As the man William is today, I am sure he is long at peace from over  years, years of Camilla.
William is an adult and as an adult you see things as an adult. Catherine gets on well with Camilla.
C, D, and C were not her parents.William gets on well with his father and Camilla.

Henry bringing up to light this personal conversation William had with him, ancient history and the purpose is to cause sad feelings between William , Camilla.

But hey Henry wants to simply destroy everyone and everything.
No doubt , my thoughts of what conversation might be like, assuming here on my part, William can apologize to Camilla as his feelings are not that as the man he is today and the life he lives.  Iwould think Camilla would understand his feelings from 20 years ago, ancient history.


Back to my point. Henry is spiteful opening old wounds for his revenge.
Sad.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on January 06, 2023, 01:32:41 PM
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on January 06, 2023, 06:49:08 AM
At @Nightowl   I agree
Henry is running out of new ammunition as he has not been around KC, W, and Cam, Cath since Jan 2020
He has really said a lot of good juicy lies, truths, half truths and yet nothing really surprising. Some of the things are just personal that can only cause hurt feelings. Exa,pmole. He says William did not their father to marry Camilla.
I would that is true, common sense. I would assume that was a private conversation between Will and Harry.
This was over 15 20 years ago when it was public knowledge C and C were a couple, and even when they got engaged, married.
Since then, a long time, very long time, years, years , years ago when William was a young adult . In college. Before William became father, husband, married, engage, helicopter rescue pilot, etc.

As the man William is today, I am sure he is long at peace from over  years, years of Camilla.
William is an adult and as an adult you see things as an adult. Catherine gets on well with Camilla.
C, D, and C were not her parents.William gets on well with his father and Camilla.

Henry bringing up to light this personal conversation William had with him, ancient history and the purpose is to cause sad feelings between William , Camilla.

But hey Henry wants to simply destroy everyone and everything.
No doubt , my thoughts of what conversation might be like, assuming here on my part, William can apologize to Camilla as his feelings are not that as the man he is today and the life he lives.  Iwould think Camilla would understand his feelings from 20 years ago, ancient history.


Back to my point. Henry is spiteful opening old wounds for his revenge.
Sad.
He actually said in an interview, sometime after he was 21, that he and William "love her to bits".  People who meet her say Camilla is very comfortable, laid back and easy to like. And she has not been negative about all the bad press she got in the past - not does she seem to hold grudges. Of course I haven't read the book, but is he just telling his story of life and naively hurting people, or is he actually wanting to destroy people? I think you would only be able to answer that question after reading the book.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on January 06, 2023, 01:45:10 PM
I think that Harry does have his knife out for his brother and for Charles and Camilla, in spte of saying at varous times that he loved all three of them. but he clearly has had a long standing resentment against his brother for being the future king... and Meghan I think has encouraged that feeling and made him think that because he and she were pretty popular for a time, they should be getting a bigger share of the RF's money and admiration, and going on more glamourous tours, living in a nicer house etc etc.  I think that Meg has this idea of a soap star, that if  her character is more popular than other characters in the show, she should get better costumes, a bigger salary etc.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 02:06:25 PM
Quote from: Nightowl on January 06, 2023, 10:04:42 AM
This is my opinion and feelings about this issue, of all the people involved in it, the royal family as a whole the one I really hurt for and in my heart I know just how Charles is feeling about his son...it is Charles.  He is the parent of this child who is an adult now and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it in the way of helping Harry, absolutely nothing.  Harry is a grown man, laws says he can make his own life, make his own decisions, live his life the way he wants and even though Harry is on a vengeful warpath against him and the family, nothing can be done for Harry, Harry has to hit bottom on his own, Charles has to be damn tough and honest and straightforward with Harry and just let Harry rage and be as mean and nasty as he wants till he hits that damn bottom and you pray he survives it.  Some do and lots don't.  I know for a fact Charles is suffering deeply and wondering and feeling guilty about all the mistakes he made as a parent, NO parent is perfect ever....not even Harry is a perfect father for if he was he would not be doing this to his family now.

I spent 35 years of my life in the same situation as Charles, my child was hell bent on living her own life on her terms when she was a teenager.......it almost destroyed me as a human being, there is NOTHING out there that I won't do for her, I followed all the rules of the law, the doctors, the mental health professionals, the family church, the teachers, if someone told me to do that or this to help her I did it....and she pulled some of the same tricks I see Harry doing with his family.  Lots of family have a child who will never listen to anyone, everyone in my family, my beloved sister who was the kindest sweetest lady on this earth finally got to me heart and I let go....her rage and anger was at me......not her dad, he had the checkbook and tons of money so she never attacked him, yet it was me, her mother that got the brunt of her rage and anger at the world, she was spoiled and had the best of everything in life, you name it she had it, jewels, clothes, cars, vacations and nothing pleased her.....just like Harry now, what will make him happy, content, at peace ...right now not even his wife whom he says he loves deeply, his children whom he is hurting as they can feel his rage without him showing it to them.....I can only imagine his household, tension and walking on egg shells and jumping at every sound....so my daughter lost her life due to a blood clot in the brain.....yelling one minute and gone the next....died being angry at her mom for not getting her own way again.....I would not wish this hell on any parent....as Deb would tell me so many times,  she is  adult and it is her  choice to live as she  pleases even when she are hurting and won't talk about her pain....just let go and let God.....that I did so I could survive for me finally. 

I wonder what is going on inside of Harry....doing certain things I see and read makes me question his mental health at this time....someone needs to get to him and help him as this is so unhealthy for his family now.

Mods..if this is in the wrong place, please remove elsewhere....I put this here as it is the thread for Charles.

Mental Health can't be used as an excuse for this abomination of a book.  Harry is evil personified, as an adult he authorized the ghost writer and the publisher 100% of the content. He is not a homeless person, as I commented a couple of months ago in reference to society, how rules were invented to not have a mad max world, universal ''uniforms'' for each profession, to repeat myself, the closest people are co-responsible for his well being, ''to date'' it IS: the wife  and his employer (in the case of Spare) the publisher Penguin Random House, to an extent Better Up, whom allegedly are there for ''mental health''.  IF Harry hasn't filled out or signed any of the universal forms, it doesn't matter, all countries, including the communists will defer to the wife.  Separated or Divorced living in a third country, the embassy will notify his next of kin; Charles.

So after repeating myself from the two months ago comment, these close people did not stop Harry from the abomination.  IF they did, the abomination is so great and damaging to Harry himself, a person worried and in the know would literally shout if from the rooftops. IOW, IMO MM is as equally evil as her husband and Penguin Random House is the wolf of wallstreet.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on January 06, 2023, 02:17:42 PM
dont be silly.  They are not a nice pair but evil is a ridiculously over the top descrption.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 02:27:26 PM
There is malice, synonym of evil.

Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on January 06, 2023, 02:53:54 PM
the world is full of spiteful people, we can all be spiteful.  Evil is a word for exceptionally bad people and Harry and Meghan are not that.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 04:34:28 PM
Not to you, but they are to me.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 05:16:32 PM
Harry opened pandoras box to discuss his 'autobiography'.  The Pandora's box is the 'unlimited' information about himself, wife and 'others'.  This unlimited information from Harry, he is and the way he describes stuff 'happening' to him, his wife, both are malignant narcissist. IMO they checkmark all the traits. Harry has let out all sorts of information publicly, meaning everyone can have their own POV.

Because Spain broke launch date, the book is physically available and has been serialized as long as the 'limitation' of quotes does not exceed what is in the law for copyrights because it is not precisely authorized serialization where the media outlet pays Penguin and Harry, therefore the availability in Spanish speaking countries and as so far in the English speaking countries journalists with a gazillion articles.  The gazillion articles within the quotes used and analisis of the journalist (s) POV.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on January 06, 2023, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 06, 2023, 04:34:28 PM
Not to you, but they are to me.
sorry but I think that is very exaggerated.  They are selfish, and stupid, yes, they hold grudges and lie at times.  None of this is different, except in degree to what most people are like at times.  Evil is a whole other game.  If you call everyone who has a grudge, who holds anger, who lies at times, evil what is left for people like Hitler?
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 06:08:27 PM
That is your POV.

I'm not going to detail the Harry quotes/malignant narcissist traits of the couple.  Too much detail, with a profound discussion, IMO would be off limits in this site.  :flower: BUT thanks to Harry, one can find articles and discussions about it.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Macrobug67 on January 06, 2023, 06:11:36 PM
mod note: ok.  Time to move on.  Back to the book please
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 06:14:04 PM
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Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 06, 2023, 08:16:22 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 06, 2023, 02:06:25 PM
Mental Health can't be used as an excuse for this abomination of a book.  Harry is evil personified, as an adult he authorized the ghost writer and the publisher 100% of the content. He is not a homeless person, as I commented a couple of months ago in reference to society, how rules were invented to not have a mad max world, universal ''uniforms'' for each profession, to repeat myself, the closest people are co-responsible for his well being, ''to date'' it IS: the wife  and his employer (in the case of Spare) the publisher Penguin Random House, to an extent Better Up, whom allegedly are there for ''mental health''.  IF Harry hasn't filled out or signed any of the universal forms, it doesn't matter, all countries, including the communists will defer to the wife.  Separated or Divorced living in a third country, the embassy will notify his next of kin; Charles.

So after repeating myself from the two months ago comment, these close people did not stop Harry from the abomination.  IF they did, the abomination is so great and damaging to Harry himself, a person worried and in the know would literally shout if from the rooftops. IOW, IMO MM is as equally evil as her husband and Penguin Random House is the wolf of wallstreet.

I would never use mental health as an excuse or escape from reality or anything in life, I have had some of the best mental health professionals help me deal with  my life and it has worked for me, yet Harry is in deep trouble and I believe he is acting out his anger and rage at whomever for whatever and I don't think at this point he even knows why he is so angry. He needs an intervention or someone to help him deal with his anger before it explodes into something worse...that worse does happen in life as it is in the news daily.   I just see his actions and behavior from my own experiences in life.....I don't think Meghan is any help at this time at all as she is also part of his problem.  He is a ticking time bomb right now and many see it, not just me.  I certainly do agree with your comments as they are very informative and insightful to read.   Life just throws us storms to deal with and how we deal with them makes us who we are today...all those storms get easier to deal with as time goes by as I well know.....today, life is precious and beautiful even with all the storms around us in this world.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 08:33:08 PM
^ I have to move on from 'that specific' subject *The Sussexes and their Mental Health.

^I understand you very well  :flower: and I am sending you blessing for the way you handled your daughter and the big sorrow, your own life, and huge hug to you and your sister.  :hug?:

*****

IPSO chair Lord Faulks on Harry book and press coverage of royals (https://pressgazette.co.uk/media_law/ipso-chair-lord-faulks-on-harry-book-and-press-coverage-of-royals/)
The chairman of the press regulator IPSO has hinted that it will be harder for Prince Harry to defend his privacy in future, echoing comments made by the editor of Press Gazette. 

NOTE from a RIF member/Me Wannable: please be mindful when reading ANY articles related to Harry's book, body part organs and class A drugs MAY be discussed within the posted links or the article contains a link that will take you to deeper analysis.  Thanks Harry!

*****

Taliban says Prince Harry should face ?international court? after ?proudly confessing? to killing 25 (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/06/prince-harry-spare-killed-25-taliban-international-court/)

Now the head of the police in the UK are studying if to place the country in high alert for the Coronation, too many VIP packed in one place.  Thanks Harry.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 06, 2023, 08:57:17 PM
It all leaves very little off-limits when it comes to future press coverage of Harry's private life.

The royal appears to believe that only one version of his life should enter the public record, his own. But journalists can't just be stenographers for Harry and Meghan. They have to hold the claims made by celebrities up to scrutiny.

One of the big factors judges take into account when assessing privacy claims is the extent to which claimants have put matters into the public domain themselves.

Prince Harry book revelations undermine privacy of estranged royal (https://pressgazette.co.uk/comment-analysis/prince-harry-privacy/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 12:35:29 AM
JAN MOIR: As Prince faces more fawning interviewers, the 20 questions our interrogator would ask... | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11607827/JAN-MOIR-Prince-faces-fawning-interviewers-20-questions-interrogator-ask.html)

Inside Meghan and Kate's long-standing feud: The fallings out which drove them apart | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html)

Prince Harry confirms him and Meghan DID announce Duchess' pregnancy at Princess Eugenie's wedding | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11607535/Prince-Harry-confirms-Meghan-DID-announce-Duchess-pregnancy-Princess-Eugenies-wedding.html)

Prince Harry is lampooned by his own local paper in Montecito | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602791/Prince-Harry-lampooned-local-paper-Montecito.html)

King Charles feared being 'overshadowed' by Meghan Markle, Prince Harry says  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11607583/King-Charles-feared-overshadowed-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-says.html)

Pub boss who Prince Harry branded a 'f***ing frog' says females would 'throw themselves' at royal | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11607483/Pub-boss-Prince-Harry-branded-f-ing-frog-says-females-throw-royal.html)

Royals will be horrified at Harry's *** confession as it drags up addiction in the family | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606605/Royals-horrified-Harrys-***-confession-drags-addiction-family.html)

Jimmy Kimmel mocks Harry and William 'fight' in hilarious skit | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606243/Jimmy-Kimmel-mocks-Harry-William-fight-hilarious-skit.html)

Prince Harry reveals all about his relationship with Prince William and Kate Middleton | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606569/Prince-Harry-reveals-relationship-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton.html)

Prince Harry was allowed to miss drugs test and leave UK RAF base after it was put in lockdown | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11608249/Prince-Harry-allowed-miss-drugs-test-leave-UK-RAF-base-lockdown.html)

Prince Harry reveals he once believed that Diana faked her own death by staging Paris tunnel tragedy | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11607465/Prince-Harry-reveals-believed-Diana-faked-death-staging-Paris-tunnel-tragedy.html)

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Netflix expert slams Duke | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606261/Prince-Harry-blasted-appalled-Royal-Family-experts.html)

How Harry and Meghan's high street furniture compared to William and Kate's lavish Palace apartment | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606203/How-Harry-Meghans-high-street-furniture-compared-William-Kates-lavish-Palace-apartment.html)

Taliban taunts 'big mouth loser' Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606051/Furious-Taliban-taunts-big-mouth-loser-Prince-Harry-revealed-killed-25-enemies.html)

Prince Harry reveals brutal taunts about his mother's death in Army training | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606585/Prince-Harry-reveals-brutal-taunts-mothers-death-Army-training.html)

Prince Harry kept a box of Diana's HAIR in his nightstand - and says it helped Meghan get pregnant | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11607409/Prince-Harry-kept-box-Dianas-HAIR-nightstand-says-helped-Meghan-pregnant.html)

Harry's confessions could have 'dire consequences' for Meghan's political hopes, experts claim | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606877/Harrys-confessions-dire-consequences-Meghans-political-hopes-experts-claim.html)

MEGHAN MCCAIN: Harry, you can't brag about your Taliban kill count AND moan about princely punch-up | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11607407/MEGHAN-MCCAIN-Harry-brag-Taliban-kill-count-moan-princely-punch-up.html)

Prince Harry breaks protocol by revealing King Charles' medical issues | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11602973/Prince-Harry-breaks-protocol-revealing-King-Charles-medical-issues.html)

Prince Harry has 'undermined his own security', MPs and military figures warn | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606475/Prince-Harry-undermined-security-MPs-military-figures-warn.html)

Horse-loving ex-model six years older than Harry refuses to discuss whether she took his virginity | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11607809/Horse-loving-ex-model-six-years-older-Harry-refuses-discuss-took-virginity.html)

ANDREW NEIL: Harry's Taliban killing claim is a blunder his reputation will never recover from | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11608005/ANDREW-NEIL-Harrys-Taliban-killing-claim-blunder-reputation-never-recover-from.html)

The Meghan Markle scoop that cost ITV's golden boy Tom Bradby his friendship with Prince William  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11608025/The-Meghan-Markle-scoop-cost-ITVs-golden-boy-Tom-Bradby-friendship-Prince-William.html)

Inside Meghan and Kate's long-standing feud: The fallings out which drove them apart | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606199/Inside-Meghan-Kates-long-standing-feud-fallings-drove-apart.html)

JANET STREET-PORTER: Beware the rage of a big brother (or sister) | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606833/JANET-STREET-PORTER-Beware-rage-big-brother-sister.html)

So who WAS the older woman Prince Harry 'mounted in a field'? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606559/So-older-woman-Prince-Harry-mounted-field.html)

Taliban taunts 'big mouth loser' Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606051/Furious-Taliban-taunts-big-mouth-loser-Prince-Harry-revealed-killed-25-enemies.html)

Princess Diana's bodyguard reveals how Prince Harry taunted his brother William when they were boys | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606617/Princess-Dianas-bodyguard-reveals-Prince-Harry-taunted-brother-William-boys.html)

Prince Harry reveals Meghan Markle asked for guidance at Princess Diana's gravestone | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11606317/Meghan-Markle-asked-guidance-Princess-Dianas-grave.html)

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Harry's crass comment that endangers our troops  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11608317/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Harrys-crass-comment-endangers-troops.html)

Who Is Tom Bradby? Inside Reporter's Relationship with Prince Harry (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-tom-bradby-relationship-spare-book-interview/)

Who Is Prince Harry's Spare Ghostwriter? All About J.R. Moehringer (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-spare-ghostwriter-j-r-moehringer-everything-to-know/)

Prince Harry Says Diana Would Be Sad About Rift with Prince William (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-princess-diana-sad-prince-william-relationship/)
Late Diana,Princess of Wales not happy with William and Harry what Harry?s claims in the books if Diana was here today from heaven and Diana will heartbroken!!

Prince Harry's Spare Book: The Biggest Revelations (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-spare-book-biggest-revelations/)

Prince Harry Says He Was Probably Bigoted Before Dating Wife Meghan (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-admits-probably-bigoted-before-meeting-meghan-markle/)

Prince Harry and Prince William Asked Dad Charles Not to Marry Camilla (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-prince-william-asked-king-charles-not-to-marry-queen-camilla/)

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's kitchen where Prince William altercation took place | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20230106161007/prince-harry-meghan-markle-kitchen-nottingham-cottage/)

Prince Harry reveals pain at being called 'Spare' by royals | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106161124/prince-harry-reveals-he-was-called-spare-by-royals/)

Prince Harry reveals truth about pregnancy announcement at Eugenie's wedding | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/healthandbeauty/mother-and-baby/20230106161086/prince-harry-meghans-pregnancy-announcement-at-eugenie-wedding/)

Meghan Markle's secret visit to Princess Diana's grave with Harry last year ? details | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20230106161136/prince-harry-meghan-markle-secret-diana-grave-visit/)

Prince Harry reveals love for Kate Middleton in Spare memoir | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106161089/prince-harry-reveals-love-for-kate-middleton-spare-memoir/)

Charles Spencer takes to social media after Prince Harry's bombshell memoir is leaked | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106161132/earl-charles-spencer-social-media-update-prince-harry-memoir/)

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106160844/princess-diana-prince-harry-spare-andrew-morton/

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106161117/prince-harry-princess-diana-birthday-present-thirteen/

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106161111/rishi-sunak-addresses-prince-harry-memoir-spare/

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106161096/prince-harry-spare-details-alleged-feud-kate-meghan-baby-brain/

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230106160908/best-royal-books-and-memoirs-about-royal-family-life/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64185176

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64182513

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64179164
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 07, 2023, 12:47:21 AM
Quote from: Amabel2 on January 06, 2023, 05:25:53 PM
sorry but I think that is very exaggerated.  They are selfish, and stupid, yes, they hold grudges and lie at times.  None of this is different, except in degree to what most people are like at times.  Evil is a whole other game.  If you call everyone who has a grudge, who holds anger, who lies at times, evil what is left for people like Hitler?

Do you want to know *evil*?  It is when a family member records all your conversations without you knowing it and then put all those conversations on social media to hurt and try to destroy another family member  all because someone in the family stood up to her and told her NO, you can not do that in my home and your not getting any more money from me.....that is EVIL and mean and hateful and backstabbing, Harry and Meghan are just plain EVIL, for Meghan to make fun of HM with her so called curtsy, to look down her nose at HM who has spent her entire life serving her country, that is EVIL and mean and hateful and spiteful. Going out of your way to purposely hurt someone else be they family or friend is EVIL.  The best way to deal with EVIL is to turn your back and walk away not looking back and shut the door and locked it forever.....life is way to damn short for EVIL in anyone's life, did that and no regrets doing it either!  Made me one heck of a strong independent woman!
Thank you sis!

Mod warning: please move on from the evil discussion. There already was one mod request. 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 12:59:38 AM
Harry book - 'Crime against humanity' - senior Taliban leader hits out at prince's claims of over '25 kills' | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/they-were-not-chess-pieces-senior-taliban-leader-hits-out-at-prince-harry-over-25-kills-12780942)

Diana would have told Harry book 'isn't a good idea', says her former protection officer | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/diana-would-have-told-harry-book-isnt-a-good-idea-says-her-former-protection-officer-12781089)

Prince Harry: Biggest revelations from his new book Spare | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-biggest-revelations-from-his-new-book-spare-12780975)

Ex-royal protection officer recalls argument between Prince Harry and Prince William | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/video/ex-royal-protection-officer-recalls-argument-between-prince-harry-and-prince-william-12781046)

Army veterans criticise Prince Harry?s claim he killed 25 Taliban in Afghanistan | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/06/army-veterans-criticise-prince-harry-claim-killed-25-taliban-afghanistan)

Prince Harry saw ?red mist? in William during brother?s alleged attack | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/06/prince-harry-saw-red-mist-in-william-during-alleged-attack)

King poised to punish Harry and Meghan with 'nuclear option' after 'outrageous' new claims | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718080/king-charles-prince-harry-book-memoir-meghan-markle-royal-family)

Prince Harry has put 'himself and others in danger' as Taliban accuses Duke of war crimes | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717851/taliban-responce-prince-harry-afghanistan-killing-new-book-spare)

Charles: All Harry has to do is call me - King wants to reconcile with his warring family | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718091/king-charles-prince-harry-spare-memoir-reconcile-royal-family)

Prince Harry says he had frostbitten 'todger' at William and Kate's wedding in tell-all bo | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717996/prince-harry-spare-book-frostbitten-penis-prince-william-kate-middleton-wedding)

Prince Harry recalls kissing Page 3 girl during 'best nine weeks of his life' in new book | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717978/prince-harry-book-page-3-girl-spt)

Harry claims William was 'plotting revenge' after Charles broke up furious fishing fight | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717963/prince-harry-william-revenge-charles-fishing-fight)

Prince Harry: Royals praised for ?retaining dignified silence? over Duke's allegations | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717943/royal-family-silence-prince-harry-spare-poll-result-spt)
Polls says NO!!

Prince Harry news: ?Stupid Taliban bragging' puts family at risk, Duke is warned | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1717897/prince-harry-news-killed-25-taliban-spare-afghanistan-british-army)

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-06/senior-taliban-leader-hits-out-at-harrys-claim-he-killed-25-in-afghanistan

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-05/what-fresh-claims-has-prince-harry-made-against-the-royals

Prince Harry reveals he was NOT William's best man and says it was a 'bare-faced lie' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-reveals-not-williams-28895272)

Harry recalls William's four-word response to Meghan's pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-recalls-williams-four-word-28893913)

Harry takes swipe at William's 'alarming' hair loss as 'resemblance to Diana faded' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-takes-swipe-williams-alarming-28888424)

Prince Harry's Taliban kills confession 'puts family at risk of suicide bomb retaliation' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-taliban-kills-confession-28894124)

Prince William was 'tipsy hours before his wedding' and Harry told him he stank of booze - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-tipsy-hours-before-28891398)

Prince Harry's Spare claims at a glance - 'illegal' activities, sordid sex and 'violence' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-spare-claims-glance-28884552)

Harry held up pair of underpants in room full of shocked royals at William's wedding - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-held-up-pair-underpants-28892023)

Prince Harry heard about Queen's death on BBC site after urgent text from wife Meghan - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-heard-queens-death-28888334)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-admit-jealousy-over-28888643

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-should-troubled-army-28896063

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-pointing-finger-slams-28896136

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/as-british-muslim-harrys-revelation-28895428

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/army-fury-prince-harry-kills-28895974
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 07, 2023, 01:23:11 AM
It is just shocking that Harry could refer to anyone in war as chess pieces......my mouth dropped to the floor over that..that is so.....no words to describe how any military man or woman would feel reading that.  I hope he is banned from the IG for that.....he does not deserve to be with them anymore.......war is mean and scary and ugly and powerful at the same time.....yet all men and women in wars are human beings also with families back home......some respect should be given for the ones that died and he did not even do that.  He will now suffer the consequences of those words for I don't think the Taliban will sit back and let this pass unnoticed....oh no, Harry just put his family and the royal family and all military in danger with that statement.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 01:25:40 AM
How Prince Harry was allowed to leave his helicopter base after it was put in lockdown when random drug testers arrived | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20966953/prince-harry-leave-raf-base-random-drug-testers/)

Meghan Markle hugged Princess Diana's grave and 'asked for guidance' on 25th anniversary of her death | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20966553/meghan-markle-hugged-princess-diana-grave/)

Prince Harry has put British troops? lives in danger by boasting about his 25 Taliban kills, say ex-military chiefs | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20966702/prince-harry-put-british-troops-danger-taliban-killing-boasts/)

Grassy field where Prince Harry lost virginity to older woman revealed | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20966049/harry-field-lost-virginity-older-woman/)

Prince Harry reveals he smoked weed & watched Disney film Inside Out after his first date with Meghan Markle | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20967747/prince-harry-smoked-weed-inside-out-first-date-meghan/)

Model, 44, who kissed Prince Harry when he was a teen refuses to say if she was older woman who took his virginity | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20967372/prince-harry-virginity-model-cotswolds/)

I'm a royal expert - what Harry won't say about rivalry with Wills? and the savage quip that always won any argument | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20960333/prince-harry-feud-william-spare-book/)

I'm being made homeless and Prince Harry is moaning about a freebie mansion - he's out of touch & pathetic | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20966819/sun-reader-homeless-prince-harry-moaning-pathetic/)

Truth behind Harry's dog bowl row as it's revealed William confronted him over 'Meghan bullying staff' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20966666/truth-behind-william-harry-dog-bowl-row-fight/)

I'm a royal expert - the chemistry between Kate, Wills & Harry couldn't be faked - how sad their friendship is ruined | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20966814/arthur-edwards-kate-william-harry-chemistry-real/)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20965536/seven-questions-prince-harry-needs-answer/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20967576/harry-endangered-lives-handed-pr-coup-to-murderous-taliban/
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 01:33:31 AM
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Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 07, 2023, 04:27:16 AM
Hope Harry is very happy with what he has done.....no way will the royal family now ever take him back...that is on Harry only and Meghan.  I hope the royal family can turn their backs and shut that darn door and lock it on them so they can somehow grieve the loss of Harry and move on.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 04:52:04 AM
Quote from: Nightowl on January 07, 2023, 04:27:16 AM
Hope Harry is very happy with what he has done.....no way will the royal family now ever take him back...that is on Harry only and Meghan.  I hope the royal family can turn their backs and shut that darn door and lock it on them so they can somehow grieve the loss of Harry and move on.

I?m agreed with you
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 04:54:21 AM
Quote from: Nightowl on January 07, 2023, 01:23:11 AM
It is just shocking that Harry could refer to anyone in war as chess pieces......my mouth dropped to the floor over that..that is so.....no words to describe how any military man or woman would feel reading that.  I hope he is banned from the IG for that.....he does not deserve to be with them anymore.......war is mean and scary and ugly and powerful at the same time.....yet all men and women in wars are human beings also with families back home......some respect should be given for the ones that died and he did not even do that.  He will now suffer the consequences of those words for I don't think the Taliban will sit back and let this pass unnoticed....oh no, Harry just put his family and the royal family and all military in danger with that statement.

Yes i can?t believe Harry did that tell all in his books and he embarrassed his own family and included his father and his brother Prince William but taboilds says Harry sold his soul!!
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 07, 2023, 05:18:53 AM
^It is so quiet from California you can hear a pin drop.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 07, 2023, 09:07:53 AM
For those who were asking about J.R. Moehringer, Harry's ghostwriter.

IMO he finished his job, paid USD1M, his draft, 41 pages were taken out by Penguin Lawyers (not his fault, his job is to be a skilled writer, grammar, technicality in details and communication, whist the subject talks), enter 2nd writer?! And he gives a LIKE to a comment ''me me me''  :wink: :hehe:

KINSEY SCHOFIELD
@kinseyschofield
Slip of the thumb? Harry's ghostwriter likes tweet branding Harry self consumed.

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Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 07, 2023, 09:15:01 AM
Context of Harry's 25 kills chessboard pieces. I'm still reading Military do not publcize anecdotes 'detailing' number and how to 'treat' the enemy.

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Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 07, 2023, 09:19:41 AM
Democratic inclinded CNN is back, but it's not Max Foster, it's a psychologist.

Harry bashing article incoming

Opinion: Why Prince Harry can't stop oversharing | CNN (https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/06/opinions/prince-harry-spare-prince-william-ctpr-drexler/index.html)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on January 07, 2023, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 07, 2023, 09:19:41 AM
Democratic inclinded CNN is back, but it's not Max Foster, it's a psychologist.

Harry bashing article incoming

Opinion: Why Prince Harry can't stop oversharing | CNN (https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/06/opinions/prince-harry-spare-prince-william-ctpr-drexler/index.html)
I thought this was an excellent article. What I can't understand is this; if Harry is truly trying to leave the RF and his upbringing behind, why is he so angry that the King has not given the Sussex children HRH status?
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Princess Cassandra on January 07, 2023, 01:11:49 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 07, 2023, 09:15:01 AM
Context of Harry's 25 kills chessboard pieces. I'm still reading Military do not publcize anecdotes 'detailing' number and how to 'treat' the enemy.

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In all fairness.....Harry IMO frequently displays naivete, a lack of understanding, or whatever you want to call it. His book is an autobiography, and he thinks it's fine to bash his family and all that, but it's not all about the family. My husband is ex-military, and he has told me similar things about the training received. Harry is naive to think it's ok to include it in a book that is not perceived by us all as an autobiography but as a way of seeking revenge. It is also not appropriate to publicize this side of war unless it is a serious and thorough discussion about war in general and the training required to survive it, and certainly not on a personal level. He just plain and simply doesn't get it.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 07, 2023, 02:04:52 PM
He has intentionally placed the green uniform (wherever the UK have military stationed and deployed) the blue uniform (UK) and all the MI (5, 6 and 7) in high alert reviewing, looking for 'signals' of dangerous 'acts'.  The two taliban government ministers that replied to him, one of them is head of the most feared Taliban military teams (in the west we call that team terrorists, the taliban call it/themselves a 'military unit' and as their leader said, they have families and homes to go to and are just protecting their own land).

So basically, more money spending with personnel in the lookout/on the watch for anything suspicious (ask your husband, my above sentence is being notified and replicated by media worldwide, not only 'gossipy tabloids').

That is why his (ex) ghostwriter gave a like to the ''me me me'' twitter comment, the original tweet has to do with his 25 Taliban kill. So, IMO the ghostwriter suggested to H are you sure you want this in? the fact that 41 pages were taken out when he delivered his 'final draft' was paid and adios (Omid Scobie reported) is giving me this 'educated guess'. Enter stage a 2nd one, MM, who knows?! 41 pages out equated to me that Harry has no bounds, hence my latest MH comment, which I won't speak no more, until a meltdown?! happens.

To date, this is the most most gravest part of his autob.

We all have to remember that 9,000 people who have collaborated with the UK and USA have been left behind...so when you read reports that the Taliban leader who replied to Harry, used a bomb vehicle in some shanty town killing 'civilians', compare it to the Al Jazeera report that the explosion killed collaborators of the west according to the taliban source, this paper trying to find out names, etc, it is a war.  Stoking or sparking any kind of 'comment' by an ex royal, shouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 07, 2023, 03:34:52 PM
On a lighter (or not depending on each person's view that one needs to learn and observe the good bad and ugly, preferences and non preferences) note, Harry says in his book that he did teach Meghan royal protocols, he details as an example to bow to Charles but don't curtsey to Camilla.

Rendering the teaching with the bits and pieces he likes or accepts, and what he doesn't like and doesn't accept a pass, equating that to H set M to fail.  :happy17:

A good teacher will not cherrypick.  I will feel a bit sorry for M here, but just a bit, because there were multiple reports of Samantha Cohen trying to 'reteach' Megs.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 07, 2023, 03:46:18 PM
Charles seems to have been a decent parent. I appreciate that he apologized to Harry when he realized he should have gotten him help earlier and that he'd sit by Harry's bedside until he fell asleep because his son was afraid. Of course as a parent he wasn't perfect, but I'd be astonished to find any parent who hasn't made mistakes.

Harry is the most confused ?spare? in history (https://archive.ph/YbMNu)

QuoteThe King, for instance, comes across as far less stiff-upper-lipped than most royal fathers. This is a man who was scarcely hugged by his own parents and, according to Harry, was so relentlessly bullied at Gordonstoun that he thought he might die there. But when the dreadful news of Diana?s death came, he tried his utmost to break it as gently as possible, patting Harry?s knee and reassuring him everything would be okay.
Opinion will remain divided on whether it was a good idea to keep the princes in Scotland, or to turn off all the televisions ? but there remains a strong sense that the Royals were doing what they thought best under near impossible circumstances.
Harry reveals that his father later apologised for failing to get him help sooner, and offered advice when he started suffering from panic attacks. And, contrary to depictions of him as a largely absent father, the King used to sit on the side of Harry?s bed until he was asleep as he knew he was afraid of the dark.
He also insisted Harry write rather than call as he ?loved? his letters and even left notes under the pillow for his ?darling boy?. These actions appear at odds with suggestions that the King struggles to express his emotions in private.

I also agree with Tominey's points that the press and the public perception as the  brothers as "Diana's boys"  didn't help their emotional growth.

QuoteThis infantilisation of Harry, I have to admit, is partially the media?s fault. From the outright, condemnations of his walk behind his mother?s coffin (might he not have felt more aggrieved were he removed from the ceremonial aspects of the funeral?) to the references to he and his brother as ?Diana?s boys? long into their 30s, we have all contributed to the Duke of Sussex?s exaggerated sense of self ? and that ?all? extends to the public, too.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 07, 2023, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 07, 2023, 09:19:41 AM
Democratic inclinded CNN is back, but it's not Max Foster, it's a psychologist.

Harry bashing article incoming

Opinion: Why Prince Harry can't stop oversharing | CNN (https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/06/opinions/prince-harry-spare-prince-william-ctpr-drexler/index.html)

Thank you, that is a really great article. I have a question, Harry wants to get so far away from the royal family yet recently he came out with *I want my father back, I want my brother back and I want a family not an institution*...HUH, they are the royal family and he wants them back yet ....what a hypocrite he is. He is a very dangerous man as is his wife and they will *never* let go of the royal family as long as they breathe ......that is their cash cow! I so feel sorry for Charles and the entire family in England, NOT for Harry or Meghan ever.   
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 07, 2023, 04:43:26 PM
Pen Farthing
@PenFarthing

To the **** who made **** comments in support of #PrinceHarry in my tweet below, know I have had to evac from #Kabul tonight in case of potential reprisal attacks on ex-forces people like me in the wake of his badly judged memoir. You happy?

His last film, the hideout taking care of abandoned animals.

(He's back in London as I type)

^ He is one of the official leaders of Operation Ark, trying to get west collaborators out of Afghanistan.

Pen Farthing 'evacuated from Kabul' after Prince Harry admits killing 25 Taliban
Pen Farthing is an ex-Marine, campaigning to get workers and animals from shelters out of Afghanistan in what is called Operation Ark.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Amabel2 on January 07, 2023, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on January 07, 2023, 12:51:06 PM
I thought this was an excellent article. What I can't understand is this; if Harry is truly trying to leave the RF and his upbringing behind, why is he so angry that the King has not given the Sussex children HRH status?
They have HRH status.  They had it from the moment Charles became King unless Ch were to issue Letters Patent or the kings wish that they did NOT have the style of HRH.  But presumably H and Meg dont wan the kids to use the title....  as they have never mentioned it nor has Charles
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 06:57:26 PM
King Charles BANNED Meghan Markle from Balmoral as Queen lay dying, Prince Harry says | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609209/King-Charles-BANNED-Meghan-Markle-Balmoral-Queen-lay-dying-Prince-Harry-says.html)
I can?t believe that Harry did to his own father!!

Prince Harry 'wanted to cancel publication of Spare after visiting UK for Queen's Platinum Jubilee' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609079/Prince-Harry-wanted-cancel-publication-Spare-visiting-UK-Queens-Platinum-Jubilee.html)

Prince Harry confronted Queen's dresser in row but DENIES saying: 'What Meghan wants, Meghan gets'  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609515/Prince-Harry-confronted-Queens-dresser-row-DENIES-saying-Meghan-wants-Meghan-gets.html)

Prince William and Kate were 'religious' viewers of Suits - Prince Harry says | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609443/Prince-William-Kate-religious-viewers-Suits-Prince-Harry-says.html)

Prince Harry has no regrets over gunning down Taliban in six Afghan missions: Kills were filmed | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609221/Prince-Harry-no-regrets-gunning-Taliban-six-Afghan-missions-Kills-filmed.html)

Harry?s claims are like that of a B-list celebrity,... | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609607/Harry-s-claims-like-B-list-celebrity-says-Jonathan-Dimbleby.html)

Pen Farthing flees Kabul saying Prince Harry's confession to killing 25 Taliban put him in danger | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609489/Pen-Farthing-flees-Kabul-saying-Prince-Harrys-confession-killing-25-Taliban-danger.html)

Father of soldier who served with Harry condemns Duke's revelations he killed 25 Taliban fighters | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609771/Father-soldier-served-Harry-condemns-Dukes-revelations-killed-25-Taliban-fighters.html)

Prince Harry's 'ambushes' on Royal Family 'harmed frail Queen's health in last year of her life' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609253/Prince-Harrys-ambushes-Royal-Family-harmed-frail-Queens-health-year-life.html)

Who are Thomas Van Straubenzee and James Meade the 'REAL best men' at William's wedding claims Harry | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11609231/Who-Thomas-Van-Straubenzee-James-Mead-REAL-best-men-Williams-wedding-claims-Harry.html)

Prince Harry says he rowed with Prince William over whether he could keep his BEARD | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609675/Prince-Harry-says-rowed-Prince-William-BEARD.html)
William told Harry must off beard before William?s wedding and Harry retain his beard

Prince Harry's interviewer Tom Bradby uses furore to plug book ahead of Sunday ITV revelations  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609321/Prince-Harrys-interviewer-Tom-Bradby-uses-furore-plug-book-ahead-Sunday-ITV-revelations.html)

Meghan Markle's friend Omid Scobie says Harry is RIGHT to write book as his mother Diana did | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609149/Meghan-Markles-friend-Omid-Scobie-says-Harry-RIGHT-write-book-mother-Diana-did.html)
Omid need kept his mouth shut up!!

Prince Harry sensationally claims he wasn't actually William's best man at 2011 wedding | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11608591/Prince-Harry-sensationally-claims-wasnt-actually-Williams-best-man-2011-wedding.html)

Camilla did not leak details of her first meeting with William to the press, royal sources claim  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11608631/Camilla-did-not-leak-details-meeting-William-press-royal-sources-claim.html)

Prince Harry's interviewer Tom Bradby uses furore to plug book ahead of Sunday ITV revelations  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609321/Prince-Harrys-interviewer-Tom-Bradby-uses-furore-plug-book-ahead-Sunday-ITV-revelations.html)

Prince William receives sad family news amid Spare leak drama | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230107161203/prince-william-sad-family-news-following-spare-leak-drama/)

Prince Harry's latest bombshell claims Prince William was 'tipsy' ahead of wedding to Kate Middleton | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230107161185/prince-harry/)

Why Prince Harry had to ask permission from the Queen to marry Meghan Markle | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/brides/20230107161121/why-prince-harry-asked-permission-the-queen-marry-meghan-markle/)

GMA's Michael Strahan's explosive interview and photos with Prince Harry leaves fans wondering the same thing | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230107161183/michael-strahan-gma-interview-prince-harry-fans-asking-the-same-thing-spare/)

Al Roker pokes fun at 'man baby' Prince Harry during long-awaited Today show return | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/20230106161163/today-al-roker-pokes-fun-prince-harry-prince-william-altercation/)

Why Prince Harry is casting himself as a 'whistleblower' and whether the royals will react | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230107161176/prince-harry-whistleblower-betray-royal-family/)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64185317

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-64184331

Prince Harry's 'self-destructive' behaviour could be sign of PTSD - and he should be protected, says Army veteran | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harrys-self-destructive-behaviour-could-be-sign-of-ptsd-and-he-should-be-protected-says-army-veteran-12781533)

Drugs, sex and killings: six explosive revelations from Prince Harry?s book | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/07/prince-harry-book-spare-six-explosive-revelations)

Prince Harry revelations ?like those of B-list celebrity? | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/07/prince-harry-spare-revelations-like-b-list-celebrity-dimbleby-william-diana)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: sara8150 on January 07, 2023, 07:19:57 PM
Prince Harry's latest revelations questioned by Montecito neighbours | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718220/Prince-Harry-Spare-memoir-Montecito-neighbours-reaction-California-US-latest)

Carol Vorderman and This Morning presenters in tears of laughter at X-rated Harry claims | TV & Radio | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1717858/Carol-Vorderman-crying-Prince-Harry-sex-revelation)

Prince William 'burning' with anger over Harry's 'cruel' claims but will not 'retaliate' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718289/Prince-William-anger-harry-spare-claims-royal-family-retaliate-latest)

Harry mocks Firm for fighting over engagements 'as if it's bad for Royals to work hard' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718278/prince-harry-spare-memoir-royal-family-rift)

Prince Harry?s ?perplexing? book revelations ?like those of B-list celeb?, says King's pal | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718266/prince-harry-spare-book-launch-taliban-***-royal-family-meghan-markle)

Prince Harry claims he wasn't William's best man despite standing by his side at wedding | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718253/prince-harry-spare-william-wedding-best-man-royal)

Prince Harry has 'alienated his second family' after 'breaking unwritten military rule' | TV & Radio | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1718250/Prince-Harry-alienate-family-break-military-rule)

Prince Harry's friends come out fighting for Duke after fury over Taliban kill book claim | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718229/prince-harry-spare-taliban-afghanistan-kill-army)

Harry reveals William and Kate's reaction to Meghan's pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718183/prince-harry-spare-prince-william-kate-middleton-meghan-markle)

Prince Harry's Spare revelations spark frustration among tourists outside the Palace | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718177/Prince-Harry-Spare-memoir-claims-Duke-Sussex-Buckingham-Palace-tourists-react)

Princess Diana would have said Harry's book 'isn't a good idea', claims insider | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1718126/Princess-diana-prince-harry-ken-wharfe-royal-family-latest-ont)
If late Diana,Princess of Wales was here today from heaven she not happy on Harry?s claim and Diana warned him not write on tell all books and also Netflix but Diana will ignore Harry?s books and Netflix but Diana will follow her elder son?s advice and examples

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Pen Farthing 'evacuated from Kabul' after Prince Harry admits killing 25 Taliban - World News - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pen-farthing-evacuated-kabul-after-28897364)

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Prince Harry slammed by ex-Marine Penn Farthing over Taliban kill count and says he's fled Kabul for fear of reprisals | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20971138/prince-harry-slammed-by-penn-farthing-taliban-kill-count-fled-kabul/)

Prince Harry claims he WASN'T William's best man and his brother 'didn't want him to give a speech' as rift widens | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20968505/prince-harry-not-william-best-man-speech/)
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 07, 2023, 07:55:59 PM
The brothers' long time mutual friends are reportedly giving their own "recollections may vary" responses but won't break confidence on what Prince Harry has asked them to conceal over the years.

Burning with anger, but silent William will play the long game | News | The Sunday Times (https://archive.ph/4W2or)

QuoteFor what feels like for ever, the Duke of Sussex has been trying his hardest to get a reaction from his big brother. First the Oprah Winfrey interview, then the Netflix documentary and now sibling Armageddon in the form of his book, Spare.
The sex, drugs and killing Taliban like ?chess pieces? in Prince Harry?s memoir are jaw-dropping, but they pale in comparison to his character assassination of the Prince of Wales. ?Harold? and ?Willy? were once brothers in arms. Now Harry has very different nicknames for Prince William: his ?arch-nemesis? who saw ?red mist? as he ?attacked? his little brother over a dog bowl.
The heir has responded to the spare with deafening silence. Why? Because, as a close friend of both brothers explains, revenge is not how William rolls. ?He won?t retaliate, he never would, because he?s dignified and unbelievably loyal. William is a sitting duck because Harry knows he isn?t going to retaliate. How many shots can you take at a sitting duck?
?It?s cruel, cowardly and so sad for William to keep taking the punches. He?s keeping quiet for the good of his family and the country.?
As he quietly considers his brother?s hand grenades exploding over 416 leaked pages, though, discussing it only with his closest family and a small handful of friends, William is hurting. ?He?s anxious and he?s sad,? says the friend. ?He?s concentrating on his wife and his children, that?s what he has. He has to focus on them, and look out for the rest of the royal family. He?s handling it so well on the outside ? inside he?s burning.??
Another friend says: ?William will be going through a range of emotions ? anger, concern and worry ? not just for his family but how all this is going to affect the institution. He will be thinking strategically and grappling with the personal versus the institutional reaction. We know how closely he followed his grandmother?s example, and the institutional response may win the day over the personal. But he is staunchly protective of his own family, and he?s not just going to roll over.?
The Princess of Wales has not escaped, with Harry revealing spats between Meghan and Kate when the former said the latter had ?baby brain? after giving birth to Prince Louis, and describing how Kate appeared ?disgusted? after reluctantly lending Meghan her lip gloss.
Harry has a whole lot more to say, and will do so in four broadcast interviews over the coming days before his book?s official publication on Tuesday. William has made a different calculation, to let actions speak louder than words and let the job of being heir do the talking.
The Waleses will sail forth next week, resuming official duties after their Christmas break with a joint engagement. ?His focus is on getting on with the job and his commitment to duty and service is unwavering,? says an aide. ?We?d rather concentrate on the work we?re doing than on books or anything else that is happening.?
A friend of the royal family says: ?William is tough, the family can play the long game in the way Harry and Meghan can?t. They can channel their inner Queen Elizabeth: show, don?t tell, demonstrate this is the role you?ve taken on with courage and decency. That?s a very powerful counterpoint to all this.?
The King, portrayed in leaked extracts of Spare as a miserly, emotionally stunted father who didn?t hug his sons when he told them of Diana?s death, married Camilla despite their pleas not to fill the role of ?wicked stepmother? and jealous of his sons? and their wives? popularity eclipsing his own, still fares better than William.
That has come as no relief, though, say the monarch?s friends: ?The King is no less hurt because he personally hasn?t been the focus of the majority of the anger and frustration of the book. He feels it as keenly, it is no less painful for him because the focus is on his son rather than him. There is a lot family pain.?
Harry reveals that after the Duke of Edinburgh?s funeral in 2021 Charles begged of his sons: ?Please, boys, don?t make my final years a misery? ? a plea that has fallen on deaf ears across the Atlantic. Another friend of the King, says: ?Charles will be perplexed and heartbroken, but he is resilient.?
Harry?s disloyalty in spilling the beans has staggered lifelong friends of the brothers, who thought they would always have each other?s backs, no matter how distant they grew. While fisticuffs in the Nottingham Cottage kitchen in 2019 have long been known about in their tight-knit group, nobody thought Harry would go there. Why? Because of how much ?***? on Harry friends and family have kept under wraps for years, much of which has so far not emerged in the book?s leaked extracts.
?I don?t know how you can do that to your brother, even if you don?t like or get on with him any more,? says a friend of the royal family. ?William was always there to pick up the pieces for Harry, he was his mum [after Diana]. There?s so much stuff over the years that Harry has rung friends up about and said, ?throw away that photo, promise you won?t speak about this?. You could have a f***ing field day with *** on Harry. So could William, who (in comparison) is as clean as a whistle. I can?t believe he?d stoop so low. It?s outrageously disloyal.?Another close friend of the brothers says: ?It?s strategically not clever. Harry is good at getting his narrative out there but we know so much, we?ve cleaned up so many messes over the years, there is so much we could say.? Several friends of Harry, once loyal to him, say they are considering whether to go on the record to debunk some of his claims as ?bollocks? and drop counter-bombshells of their own. ?Loyalty works both ways,? warns one.
In the aftermath of the Sussexes? Oprah interview, the Queen said ?some recollections may vary?, and following their Netflix documentary former royal aides described some of their claims as ?lies?. Harry promised the whole truth in his book, but some of his accounts have left those in the know scratching their heads. His claim that it was William and Kate who encouraged him to wear a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party in 2005 when Harry was 20 and ?howled? with laughter when he phoned them to ask what to wear is news to a former royal aide who helped to handle the fallout and spoke to Harry at length at the time. ?I was there in the middle of all of that, at no point did Harry ever say that to me,? they said. ?There was no mention to any advisers at the time that it was William and Kate?s idea or they thought it was hilariously funny. That recollection did not exist at the time, contemporaneously.? Another well-placed friend who attended the same party, says of Harry pointing the finger at the Waleses: ?Bullshit. It was nothing to do with them.?
Harry has also written that his role as best man at William and Kate?s 2011 wedding was a ?bare-faced lie? that he was forced to go along with to spare two of William?s friends ? Thomas van Straubenzee and James Meade, who gave a joint speech at the evening reception ? the scrutiny. ?Willy didn?t want me giving a best man?s speech,? writes Harry, who says he was demoted to being a mere compere and introducing them. It is another version of events that has exasperated the brothers? closest friends. ?Harry didn?t want to be best man, he kept saying for months it should be Thomas and James because they were William?s best mates,? says one.All week, royal watchers have wondered what Harry?s end goal is, musing that he can never win true happiness with a battle plan of endless attacks on his family and the institution, ultimately harming only himself.
But a friend of Harry says that view misses the point: ?Maybe he already thinks he?s won by getting all his cards on the table. This is someone who was absolutely living a life for 30 years he really did not want to live. Of course he damages other people in the process, but he felt wronged and damaged for years.
?You can?t underestimate how angry he?s felt about being controlled within the confines of the institution for so long. What he definitely doesn?t want to do any more is live thinking, ?What does it look like from a public relations angle?? He?s not thinking ,?How will I come across?? He?s thinking, ?F*** this, I?ve lived a life for so long where I?ve been controlled for so long?. People need to take a step back and ask why he has done it. Many will be asking if he?s genuinely OK. We know he isn?t. He?s damaged and one way to deal with it is to write a book.?The Sunday Times revealed last month that Harry and Meghan want a reconciliation ?summit? with the royal family prior to the coronation in May, but also want an ?apology? and ?accountability? for their grievances. Harry has reiterated all of that in his interview with the ITV presenter Tom Bradby, which will be broadcast on Sunday night, adding: ?I would like to get my father back, I would like to have my brother back? but ?they?ve shown absolutely no willingness to reconcile?. Harry says ?the ball is in their court? and ?I really hope they?re willing to sit down and talk about it?.
How will William and the King play it? ?William would [want to reconcile] but how can he right now?? says a close friend. ?Maybe once Harry has written a book about all the great work the royal family does.?
The family also struggles with how any future meeting could remain private, given the Sussexes have put so much into the public domain. It is a fear acknowledged even by friends of Harry and Meghan: ?They realise they?ve got to a place where private conversations and calls could be questioned if they?re going to be private.?A friend of the King says: ?It?s a curious way to go about a reconciliation.? One of Harry?s biggest supporters in royal circles is also bemused by his strategy: ?I don?t know how you can say you want your father and brother back after writing all that. But the King has a massive role to play here. If you?ve got Harry saying all this, there is a case of swallowing it and taking the higher ground. If he does, it will be easier for William to follow. They need to find the higher ground that is right for the family and the institution, otherwise it will continue to be a headache up to the coronation and beyond. Not talking about it will never work. The strength of this institution comes from the strength of the family.?
A source who knows the King well says: ?The royal family has to avoid being vindictive but that doesn?t mean the King is going to fly out to Montecito to calm Harry down. They?ve got no alternative but to let the hurricane blow through.?
Of the royal households? silence so far, a palace aide says: ?What would be the point of stepping out into moving traffic? There is not a sense that the Palace walls are crumbling around us, we?re just focusing on getting on with the job.? Like his eldest son, the King will also be back out on manoeuvres next week. A royal adviser says: ?What does Harry want from the family? He wants 100 per cent validation of their story, he wants the Palace to say we?re sorry in a way that says everything we?ve been saying since Oprah is true. That won?t happen, because it?s not all true. The Palace will rise above it and let time do its job.?
Harry has cast his attendance at the coronation in doubt, but sources close to him believe he will return to the UK for the service at Westminster Abbey on May 6: ?It is an important moment for Harry?s and he would want to show his respect.? If Harry does make it, he might be relieved to learn that he will not be required to kneel and pledge allegiance to his father. In a major break with tradition, Charles has scrapped the act of the royal dukes kneeling to ?pay homage? before touching the crown and kissing the monarch?s right cheek. William will be the only royal to perform the tradition. A well-placed source says: ?As things stand, there is no role for Harry in the service.? Courtiers will breathe a sigh of relief. Royal photographers and body language experts will be devastated.
After his fight with William, Harry reveals in the book, he called his therapist. A friend of the royal family suggests a session with the Princess Royal, the ultimate uncomplaining ?spare?, would be time better spent. ?He really ought to talk to Princess Anne,? says the friend. ?She often talked about how, as children, she was treated so differently to Charles. She was second to him and kicked further down the line of succession as a woman, but she forged her own path. In her twenties she was bolshy and upset about a lot of things, but she came through that. He should talk to her about her experiences. She is shrewd, she could tell him a lot about what she went through.?
Only stony silence emanates from Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace as the royal family braces for Spare?s global publication on Tuesday, but at Lambeth Palace, prayers for the royal family have been upped from once to three times a day. They need some reconciliation, this undermines the whole institution,? says a source. ?Harry?s turned into a human hand grenade.?


Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 07, 2023, 08:40:25 PM
How sad. I feel desperately mortified for William his family and extended. 🥹😭
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 07, 2023, 09:08:43 PM
Anne should give a masterclass to all of the younger royal siblings siblings around the world on how to thrive in that important role. She could be joined by guest panelists Princess Astrid of Norway,  Princess Margriet and Prince Constantijn of the NL too.

Edward can come on to offer a testimonial of "How I went from unsatisfied and frustrated to  becoming a trusted and  respected supporter with Anne's patented method."
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: dianab on January 07, 2023, 09:23:37 PM
I dont think those mutual friends are Guy Pelly or the Van Straubenzees but I can believe it's the Van Cutsem brothers....
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: FanDianaFancy on January 07, 2023, 10:19:44 PM
Thank you for all the links to articles and articles @sara8150
Yes @TLLK   Princess Anne should give a master class, lol. Well Catherine had some stumbles with her clothing, hair, hands, but she got it. She has been on point since.

Henry , there is no end to the depths of his stupidity.
Kill count?.uhhhhh nooooo. That was unnecessary to print. Megan, of course she read his pages as he wrote them , should have stopped at that. The author from the publishing company SHOULD HAVE taken that out, but the company is in the business to make $$$$$$$$$ . First, foremost. The more controversial, the more salacious means the better buzz and that equals sales.

Tiaragate. We finally hear from him. The Spencer tiara was not his to loan and from what I read, family protocol of tiaras would prohibit that anyway.

The lipgloss.  Charlottes dress which was a sack on her and going against the grain of little girls in their tights/ stockings, well, the proof is there in pictures. At one point little then 3 yr old Charlotte sort of lifted her leg ?.ohhh noooo , no stockings.

You have baby brain. Cath n Meg were not  that close. This would have been fine for Pippa yo say or one if Cath?s friends . SMe. fir Meg if it were JessicaMulrooney and the gang. IF Cath had said that toMeg?omg, all hell out war. Oprah would have had that in her interview.

Sussex statement was THEY WERE headed to Balmoral as QE was passing away. That was immediately struck down by Charles. They , no. Henry, ok. Henry ?Do nit talk about my wife like that ever again, something like he said.
The gull to think Megan needed to go to Balmoral. Ridiculous.

Henrys scathing book, lol, his autobiography is a bit about him and a lot about others namely Charles, William , Camilla, and Catherine.

His book is making him look sad, confused,  crazy, evil, petty, jealous, neurotic, man- child, just sad. His book is going in the revers of what he wanted. To lift him and Meg too and totally knock down  KC, W, etc.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 08, 2023, 12:07:38 AM
After Harry's revelation that he killed 25 Taliban in Afghanistan... Now hate preacher who inspired Lee Rigby killers tells jihadis to target British troops
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: Nightowl on January 08, 2023, 12:38:59 AM
Well once the Book comes out on Tuesday all we have to do is sit and wait for Book #2 by Harry, then Book #1 by Meghan and then 6 more hours of their reality show and in between TV interviews with new reporters...........that will be their life from now on.  After all they ran away from the royal family and now they are running back trying to get in with lies, and more Lies and they could care less who they hurt as they surely hastened the death of his grandmother no less. 

Harry I hope your really proud of yourself for if the Taliban strikes and kills some British military and ordinary citizens that Harry is on YOU and MEGHAN only.  Playing God with other people's lives is not your calling. Your one despicable human being and that goes for Meghan also. Are your fans jumping for joy over this and clapping you on the back? 
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: wannable on January 08, 2023, 01:52:28 AM
Almost sure Meghan will write a book, Harry is making a lot of admissions from 1 to 10 (10 far reaching consequences) Meghan has a diary and recorded almost daily according to H.

From confirming that MM did receive freebies  and never returned not 1
To Harry being a misogynist and bully at school
To Harry being as high as a kite the day his son was born and enjoying it (the drugs) the day his son Archie was born 
To Meghan asking Catherine 'how does it feel to be betrayed by your husband'' hence W went to Not Cot (As I said because of the H eMischief that I said about his weekend at Sandringham) In paranthesis is me knowing, but H did mention M making this comment to Catherine, how's that of creating a atmosphere that she wants her sister in law to fight with W and separate, divorce?!
To Meghan feeling insulted after she insulted Catherine Baby Brain and H confirming Charlotte cried because the dress was too long, baggy, big

You get the picture, what most of the media said, he is confirming to be true.

Too much extracts via twitter (and I really am 🤮 to post it now) with photo shots of the Spare in Spanish. Some of it is unpostable, explicit.

I'm sick, tell me this cruelty isn't evil, I can't believe people haven't read extracts being posted in Social Media that makes one sick.
Title: Re: Books about and written by the Sussexes Part 2
Post by: TLLK on January 08, 2023, 02:18:14 AM
We're now at 15 pages and it's time to close this thread and open a new one.