Lord Lichfield dies aged 66 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1640458,00.html)
Photographer Lord Lichfield dies
QuoteRoyal photographer Lord Lichfield has died at the age of 66 after suffering a major stroke.
BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4427752.stm)
Sad news indeed
In Pictures:
Starting out as a photographer's assistant on £3 a week, Lord Lichfield made the most of his aristocratic and showbusiness connections. Mick and Bianca Jagger were among his celebrity subjects. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_lord_lichfield/img/1.jpg)
His position and profession came together most famously in July 1981, when he took the official wedding photographs of the Prince and Princess of Wales. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_lord_lichfield/img/3.jpg)
The earl was noted for the easy way he handled the royals during shoots. He deliberately fell off his chair to get former King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson to laugh. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_lord_lichfield/img/4.jpg)
The Queen was among the first to pay tribute, saying she was "deeply saddened" at his death. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_lord_lichfield/img/5.jpg)
Baroness Thatcher, whose recent 80th birthday photos were taken by Lord Lichfield, said he was "an absolute delight to sit for". (http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_lord_lichfield/img/6.jpg)
Lord Lichfield died at the age of 66, after suffering a major stroke. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_lord_lichfield/img/7.jpg)
:)
Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2005/11/11/lordlichfield/)
QuoteLord Lichfield, the photographer who took the official wedding pictures of the Prince of Wales and Lady Diana Spencer, has died aged 66. He had suffered a major stroke. The Queen was among the first to offer her condolences, saying she was "deeply saddened" by the news.
A thread to discuss the present hereditary and non-hereditary aristocrats and peers for Europe and the UK.
Ben Goldsmith pays tribute to daughter Iris as he shares never-before-seen pictures of 15-year-old | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7242459/Ben-Goldsmith-pays-tribute-daughter-Iris-shares-never-seen-pictures-daughter.html)
How is Ben Goldsmith related to Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge?
He isn't related to her AFAIK. Before Kate's marriage it was alleged on Internet conspiracy sites that Carole Middleton n?e Goldsmith was Jewish. Her parents and ancestors were in fact not Jewish but Anglican for centuries and were certainly not related to Ben's family. (Similarly, conspiracy theorists always insinuated that Diana was half Jewish as her father was a Goldsmith. This was in spite of Diana's obvious facial resemblance to Johnny Spencer.)
Curryong, Yes, I do remember rumors about Diana's father being Sir James Goldsmith. They often put photos of Diana side-by-side with Zac Goldsmith to show a resemblance. There was also the famous photo of Diana with Gemima Goldsmith in Pakistan.
Diana and Gemima Goldsmith in Pakistan - Bing (https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=8F4F870E1DA1D393616677D4D681E9E00A55BA03&thid=OIP.9HZpOB67TAZrPj9sMODluAHaEs&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fd.ibtimes.co.uk%2Fen%2Ffull%2F403741%2Fprincess-diana-with-jemima-khan-in-lahore-in-1996-according-to-khan-diana-sought-advice-from-her-on-settling-down-in-pakistan-reuters.jpg%3Fw%3D720&exph=603&expw=950&q=Diana+and+Gemima+Goldsmith+in+Pakistan&selectedindex=3&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1),2,6
Was Goldsmith really Princess Diana's father? Let's hope so - Independent.ie (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/was-goldsmith-really-princess-dianas-father-lets-hope-so-26224028.html)
Who wrote this nonsense? Frances Spencer was tyring to have a son for her husband.. she woul not have had an affair that resulted in pregnancy
Yes, Diana and Jemima had a similar look I think, a very striking and English look IMO. But they weren't relatives. After little John Spencer's tragic death I think Frances was too busy thinking about conceiving another Spencer heir to be spending time bobbing up to Town every week. That came later.
Quote from: Curryong on July 14, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Yes, Diana and Jemima had a similar look I think, a very striking and English look IMO. But they weren't relatives. After little John Spencer's tragic death I think Frances was too busy thinking about conceiving another Spencer heir to be spending time bobbing up to Town every week. That came later.
Yes once she had produced an heir.. she might have felt it was OK to have an affair or 2...
I think this tragedy, the loss of a child is incredibly sad. The funeral for the poor girl will be soon.
Oh what a terrible accident~ This is so very sad.
Yes, very sad indeed.
The Duke of Roxburghe, landowner, breeder of racehorses, has died from cancer at his home at Floors Castle, Kelso. He was 64.
Peerage News: The 10th Duke of Roxburghe 1954-2019 (https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2019/08/the-10th-duke-of-roxburghe-1954-2019.html)
A close friend of the Duke of York - it was at Floors Castle in 1986 that Prince Andrew proposed to Sarah Ferguson.
Yes, they were at a house-party there. Lord Ted Innes-Ker, (the younger one of the Duke's sons) was a friend and flatmate of Pippa when she was at Edinburgh University. Don't know whether they are still close but I wouldn't be surprised if she and her husband go to the funeral.
The Floors Castle is quite remarkable.
Yes, the house (it's not really a true castle) and gardens are lovely. Of course the Victorians, who too often liked messing with the look of older buildings, couldn't keep their mitts off the original early eighteenth century construction.
I would love to visit in person one day - this and a long list of other houses. :thumbsup:
And his son inherited it all and is splitting, he's available. :D
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Britain's most eligible bachelor? Wealthy Duke and former Army friend of Prince Harry, 38, SPLITS from his fashion designer partner and mother of his four-year-old daughter after inheriting ?100m estate
Prince Harry's Army friend, Charlie Innes-Kerr, 38, (right) seemed set to marry his girlfriend of six years and mother to his daughter, Iranian fashion designer Morvarid Sahafi (left and right). But after his father Guy Innes Ker's, 64, passing last month and the inheritance of his ?100 million estate with Floors Castle (inset) in the Scottish Borders, the Eton educated 11th Duke of Roxburghe and Miss Sahafi have split. Miss Sahafi runs her own womenswear company, Morv London, that focuses on female empowerment, hiring victims of trafficking and domestic abuse in its Delhi, India, factory.
Wasn't he married previously? "On 22 July 2011, he married The Honourable Charlotte Susanna Aitken (b. 15 February 1982), eldest daughter of Maxwell Aitken, 3rd Baron Beaverbrook.[4] The couple split and sued for divorce in June 2012, less than a year after the wedding."
He is very much a catch at this point!
"On his accession to the dukedom, he inherited Floors Castle and 60,000 acres around the Cheviot Hills and the River Tweed as well as hotels in the area, with an estimated wealth of up to ?100 million."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-55641684 <_<
QuoteA Scottish earl has pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a woman at his ancestral home in Angus.
The Earl of Strathmore, Simon Bowes-Lyon, forced his way into the sleeping woman's room during a weekend event he was hosting at Glamis Castle.
He repeatedly assaulted the 26-year-old victim and tried to pull off her nightdress during the 20-minute attack.
Bowes-Lyon, 34 - who is the Queen's first cousin twice removed - has been placed on the sex offenders register.
He was granted bail at Dundee Sheriff Court and sentence was deferred.
Sheriff Alistair Carmichael also ordered Glamis Castle be assessed for its suitability to house Bowes-Lyon while under a tagging order.
The court heard the woman fled the castle the morning after the attack on 13 February last year and flew home to report the matter to police.
Both Police Scotland and the Metropolitan Police were involved in the investigation.
The Earl is now being jailed for ten months and will be on the sex offender registry for ten years.
The Queen?s cousin, the Earl of Strathmore, jailed after sex attack at Glamis Castle ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-queens-cousin-the-earl-of-strathmore-jailed-after-sex-attack-at-glamis-castle-156212/)
Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, Count of Orsono married Belen Corsini on May 22, 2021 in the gardens of the Palacio de Liria in Madrid, Spain.
The Count of Orsono marries Bel?n Corsini at the Duke of Alba?s Liria Palace in Madrid | Tatler (http://www.tatler.com/gallery/belen-corsini-count-of-orsono-wedding-pictures-madrid-liria-palace)
First pictures from the baptism of baby Rosario Fitz-James Stuart y Palazuelo, daughter of The Duke and Duchess of Huescar and granddaughter of The Duke of Alba, title which one day she will inherit. Sofia looks absolutely stunning as always.
First picture also of her newlyweds uncle and aunt, The Count and Countess of Osorno, who got married just a week ago.
https://twitter.com/CoutureRoyals/status/1398722324019482626?s=20
More wedding pictures of Belen and Carlos
The Wedding of Bel?n Corsini and Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, Countess of Osorno #RoyalFashionChannel - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S321rfguIR0)
Earl of Strathmore is freed from jail halfway through 10-month sentence for 20-minute sex attack (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9865537/amp/Earl-Strathmore-freed-jail-halfway-10-month-sentence-20-minute-sex-attack.html?__twitter_impression=true)
Somehow I expect that he won't be visiting at Balmoral this year. :notamused:
That twenty minute sex attack by the Earl of Strathmore probably felt like hours to his poor victim. It?s especially shaming because the Strathmores have always had an excellent reputation in Scotland.
The Hon Harry Herbert has married Clodagh McKenna.
Peerage News: Hon Harry Herbert marries Clodagh McKenna (https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2021/08/hon-harry-herbert-marries-clodagh.html)
Harry, one of the early boyfriends of the then Lady Diana Spencer, is the second son of the late 'Porchy' Earl of Carnarvon, great friend and sometime racing manager of HM The Queen. :king: :stars:
The bride is well enough known. Clodagh is the chef on 'This morning'.
Some coverage and photos of the day.
This Morning chef Clodagh McKenna, 46, marries Downton Abbey beau Harry Herbert, 62 | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9893873/This-Morning-chef-Clodagh-McKenna-46-marries-Downton-Abbey-beau-Harry-Herbert-62.html)
Star chef Clodagh McKenna marries Harry Herbert at Downton Abbey (https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a37358204/this-morning-clodagh-mckenna-harry-herbert-wedding-downton-abbey/)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSmp1JloX6G/
The bride's website
Clodagh McKenna (https://www.clodaghmckenna.com/)
I follow Harry's sister in law as she runs social media for Highclere castle the family seat. Of course his brother has been earl since 2001.
Lady Jemima Herbert is the younger half sister of the current Earl of Pembroke.The late Henry Herbert, 17th Earl of Pembroke was married twice. William (current earl) was the youngest of four children by his first wife. Jemima is the eldest child of three of Henry's second wife.
Her father was a godson of George, Duke of Kent. Her half sister Lady Emma Herbert-Vickers is the goddaughter of Andrew Parker-Bowles and was bridesmaid when Andrew and Camilla married.
The 31 year old married insurance broker Hugo Davies at her family's estate Wilton house.
Earl of Pembroke's sister Jemima Herbert ties the knot with her insurance broker beau | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9918979/Earl-Pembrokes-sister-Jemima-Herbert-ties-knot-insurance-broker-beau.html)
Lady Kitty was among the guests at the wedding and posted a number of photos on her instagram stories.
The bride and her sister Lady Alice run a company called Lay London. Its a luxury table setting rentl company for major events.
LAY London - Tablescape rental service for London events (https://laylondon.com/)
The bride wore the Pembroke tiara. Her sister in law and other members of the family have worn it on their wedding.
History of Famous Jewels and Collections: Countess of Pembroke Tiaras (https://mb.boardhost.com/historyroyaljewels/msg/1563601602.html)
The family estate where they married
Home | Wilton House (https://www.wiltonhouse.co.uk/)
Who is Harry Herbert's first wife?
Who is Harry Herbert First Wife? Age, Net worth, Lifestyle, House, Family, Married Clodagh McKenna - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJdMQqGgH4)
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on August 23, 2021, 11:34:09 PM
Who is Harry Herbert's first wife?
Who is Harry Herbert First Wife? Age, Net worth, Lifestyle, House, Family, Married Clodagh McKenna - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJdMQqGgH4)
Fiona, Lady Carnarvon is not his ex-wife as the video states. She is in fact his sister in law. She is married to his older brother George (George's second wife and mother of his youngest son).
Herbert was married previously but to Francesca Bevan. Though he does indeed have three children with his ex, just wrong woman. Their children, 2 daughters and a son, range from 22-27 this year.
Unlike Fiona, neither of Harry's wives have lived at Highclere. They live at Broadspear house, which is a cottage on the estate though.
Clodaugh has made use of the plentiful gardens at her new home with Harry for her business.
Broadspear ? Clodagh McKenna (https://www.clodaghmckenna.com/broadspear-1)
This Morning chef Clodagh McKenna shows off stunning Hampshire home on grounds of Highclere Castle | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9418007/This-Morning-chef-Clodagh-McKenna-shows-stunning-Hampshire-home-grounds-Highclere-Castle.html)
Lady Jemima and her sister Lady Alice at the Palladian Bridge at Wikton House
Setting the scene: Why Lady Jemima and Lady Alice Herbert are society?s most savvy hostesses ? CCS Network (http://www.ccswin.com/setting-the-scene-why-lady-jemima-and-lady-alice-herbert-are-societys-most-savvy-hostesses)
Prince Jaime of the Two Sicilies, Duke of Noto and Lady Charlotte Lindesay-Bethune were married at the Cathedral of Monreale in Palmero, Italy on September 25, 2021.
Nozze Reali a Monreale Don Jaime di Borbone e Lady Charlotte - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGAvAwo7-30)
More information
Wedding of the Duke of Noto and Lady Charlotte Lindesay-Bethune | The Royal Watcher (https://royalwatcherblog.com/2021/09/25/wedding-of-the-duke-of-noto-and-lady-charlotte-lindesay-bethune/)
I have seen an article that claims the tiara belongs to the groom's great aunt. But its not the same tiara (both fringe but very different).
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/eb/59/efeb594e9adda30adee7b6bac0e09aaa.jpg
It seems more likely the rumors are correct and the tiara belongs to the bride's family.
The reception was held at Palermo Palace and there was a ball to follow.
Palazzo dei Normanni - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_dei_Normanni)
The bride converted to catholic last year in the Vatican.The celebrant was Cardinal M?ller, Grand Prior of the Constantinian Order & Cardinal Mamberto, who is the prefect of the Apostolic Segnatura. There was even a letter from the Pope read.
The bride Lady Charlotte is the youngest of five children of the 16th Earl of Lindsay. She is the third sibling to marry (her 2 older sisters are, her 2 brothers including a twin are not). She works as an assistant vice president on the trading floor of Citibank in London.
The Duke is the eldest son of the Duke and Duchess of Calabria. He works with venture capital fund Plug and Play.
Plug and Play Tech Center - Plug and Play Tech Center (https://www.plugandplaytechcenter.com/)
I like this photo of the radiant bride holding her bouquet.
http://c1.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/B84170b7a/22163998_zNhJn.jpeg
She is quite a lovely bride, just beaming with joy.
The Hon Jock Bowes Lyon, 33, heir presumptive to the Earl of Strathmore and a cousin of the Queen, married socialite Posy Brinkley, 27, on Feb 2, 2022, at St Mary's Church, The Bolton's, South Kensington. Tassilo von Bismarck was best man, and Georgia May Jagger, daughter of Sir Mick Jagger, was Maid of Honour.
Peerage News: Bowes Lyon/Brinkley marriage (https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2022/02/bowes-lyonbrinkley-marriage.html)
Queen's cousin jailed for sex assault at Glamis castle is free... to star in high society wedding | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10478171/Queens-cousin-jailed-sex-assault-Glamis-castle-free-star-high-society-wedding.html)
Can I ger a collective "ewww" from the board for this ?news
Society beauties and celebrities mingle at Blenheim Palace ball | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10580553/Society-beauties-celebrities-mingle-Blenheim-Palace-ball.html)
Lady Tatiana Mountbatten, daughter of the Queen's cousin, weds Alexander Dru at Winchester Cathedral | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11042077/Lady-Tatiana-Mountbatten-daughter-Queens-cousin-weds-Alexander-Dru-Winchester-Cathedral.html)
Lady Tatiana Mountbatten and Alexander Dru had a lavish ceremony.
Lady Tatiana Mountbatten, daughter of the Queen's cousin, weds Alexander Dru at Winchester... - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWm8c1wqQxE)
Queen's childhood friend dies aged 97: Monarch loses another loyal aide as Lady Myra Butter dies | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11080173/Queens-childhood-friend-dies-aged-97-Monarch-loses-loyal-aide-Lady-Myra-Butter-dies.html)
Lady Myra befriended Princess Elisabeth when they were both in the same Girl Guide Troop.
QuoteSpeaking to The Telegraph in 2021, she revealed how she got to know the Queen as a child, saying: '[Buckingham Palace] They got hold of some girls to be part of the thing to make it more fun.
'In the Guides and the Brownies it was a real mixture, which was really nice, some friends, friends of [the family], and all the people in the Royal mews, their children, they were Brownies and Guides. Just a normal sort of pack really.'
And Lady Butter was also in the 1st Buckingham Palace Company of Girl Guides with the Queen, when it launched in 1937. The Queen was in the Kingfisher patrol, Lady Butter in Robin.
Sad for HM. However, unfortunately, when people get into their nineties it becomes usual for friends and relatives known for decades to begin to pass. People in general live to a greater age now than they once did but it?s still common for those within hailing distance of their century to be without spouses, similar aged siblings and close friends.
The Duke and Duchess of Norfolk who are the most senior Roman Catholic members of the aristocracy are divorcing.
Sadness of Britain's foremost Catholic duke as he gives up eight-year battle to save his marriage | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11109269/Sadness-Britains-foremost-Catholic-duke-gives-eight-year-battle-save-marriage.html)
QuoteAfter 34 years of marriage, the Duke of Norfolk has confirmed his divorce
Edward Fitzalan-Howard said both he and Georgina were splitting 'amicably'
The couple married in 1987 and have five children, now aged between 24 and 33
The Queen is said to be a close friend of both the Duke and the Duchess
Duke will keep Arundel Castle, 1,000-year-old ancestral home in West Sussex.
In which church did Edward Fitzalan-Howard and Georgina get married at?
Wikipedia says the Cathedral Church of Our Lady and St Philip Howard, Arundel, West Sussex, England.
Fashion designer Dame Vivienne Westwood dead at 81 | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11583617/Fashion-designer-Dame-Vivienne-Westwood-dead-81.html)
QuoteThe fashion designer died peacefully surrounded by her family in Clapham
Husband and creative partner said: 'I will continue with Vivienne in my heart'
Pioneering designer made a name for herself on the fashion scene in the 1970s
She gained notoriety with slogan t-shirts and irreverent attitude establishment
Tributes have quickly flooded in from heartbroken fans on social media
Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia, he starts talking at Minute 1.36 (in 👌🏻 proficient Spanish)
EXCLUSIVA POR PRIMERA VEZ: Un Miembro de La Realeza Habla Sobre Meghan Markle, La Duquesa de Sussex - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FY80_zEtqA&t=164s)
Quote from: wannable on February 01, 2023, 11:00:46 PM
Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia, he starts talking at Minute 1.36 (in 👌🏻 proficient Spanish)
EXCLUSIVA POR PRIMERA VEZ: Un Miembro de La Realeza Habla Sobre Meghan Markle, La Duquesa de Sussex - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FY80_zEtqA&t=164s)
So this man, who has never been in any working royal family that still has a throne, is flapping his gums about a person he has never met, and whose opinion of Meghan comes at second or third hand from cousins who live in England who have never met her either. His opinion is worth nothing, and if he wasn?t a Prince (of a non existent kingdom) nobody would give him the time of day to express anything in public.
Tiara gate
Passport confiscation gate whilst partying in NYC
Nothing different to what has been talked by everyone.
Patrick Lichfield at his country estate
1970s Lord Lichfield at his Country Estate | Kinolibrary - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2cGavhqGN8)
Does this go here? I don?t know. This peerage page has the details of the projected wedding between Hugh, the Duke of Westminster and his fianc?e, Olivia Henson, and info on her family. They will marry in Exeter Cathedral in June 2024. So they are taking their time! This piece also points out that at the moment there is no heir to the Dukedom. No pressure then! .
Peerage News: Duke of Westminster and Olivia Henson's wedding details announced (https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2023/06/duke-of-westminster-and-olivia-hensons.html?m=1)
Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother's grandfather Claude Bowes-Lyon (1824-1904) was the 13th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne.
The Canadian Pacific Railway named Strathmore, Alberta in his honor in 1884.
The King has appointed Sir Edward Young as his Permanent Lord in Waiting.
It means that Lord Young, who hit the headlines after clashing with Prince Harry, may represent the King at events which the monarch is unable to attend in person.
Richard Eden
Royal Reporter
Daily Mail
Via twitter
Quote from: wannable on August 16, 2023, 07:22:15 PM
The King has appointed Sir Edward Young as his Permanent Lord in Waiting.
It means that Lord Young, who hit the headlines after clashing with Prince Harry, may represent the King at events which the monarch is unable to attend in person.
Richard Eden
Royal Reporter
Daily Mail
Via twitter
It is good to hear about the new Lord in Waiting. So often one only hears about Ladies in Waiting.
Patricia Mountbatten, 2nd Countess Mountbatten of Burma
Patricia Mountbatten, 2nd Countess Mountbatten of Burma | Sotheby's - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNPdKbhfmw)
Lady Isabel Fitzalan Howard, 29, younger daughter of the Duke of Norfolk and of Georgina, Duchess of Norfolk, has announced her engagement to Donald McFarlan, 30.
Peerage News: McFarlan/Fitzalan Howard engagement (https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2023/10/mcfarlanfitzalan-howard-engagement.html)
Lady Isabel's father, the 18th Duke, as Earl Marshal, was responsible for the organisation of the coronation of the King and Queen in May.
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Amy Lascelles, niece of the Earl of Harewood, and her partner Matt Bolton have had a second child and first daughter. The infant is a great grandaughter of the late Earl of Harewood and a great-great granddaughter of the late Princess Mary, Princess Royal, Countess of Harewood
Peerage News: Latest descendant of the Royal House of Windsor ... (https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2023/10/latest-descendant-of-royal-house-of.html)
Majesty Magazine & Joe Little
@MajestyMagazine
The death of the King's first cousin once removed (a nephew of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother) means that Sir Simon Bowes Lyon, former Lord Lieutenant of Hertfordshire, is the last of this generation.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-FMvGiWQAAN6hS?format=jpg&name=small)
^ Funerals and Weddings
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-FC5XjWcAATK6K?format=jpg&name=small)
The QM lived to a great old age however, so Sir Simon isn?t gone yet!
The Duke of Westminster's wedding June 2024.
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TOM BOWER: Harry's exclusion from the high society wedding of his family friend is proof that he's now an outcast
By TOM BOWER FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
Harry had it coming. After his serial disloyalty, he's finally being excluded by those whom he believed were his closest friends.
And no snub is worse than that delivered by Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster.
Not being invited - alongside the King, Queen, The Waleses and the cream of Britain's high society - to such a wedding underlines how much of an outcast Harry now is. It is understandable if a pre-eminent member of the British establishment did not want to risk embarrassing the Royal Family by turning the event into the inevitable circus that tends to accompany Harry and Meghan wherever they go.
The exclusion will also be hurtful for personal reasons. Grosvenor has been an old friend. As young men, the pair partied and shot together. The joint family bonds go deep. Both William and Harry chose Grosvenor as a godfather to their sons on a friendship level but also because their families' historic roots go back a long way.
Though undoubtedly wounded, Harry can hardly be surprised.
On his brief recent trips to Britain, he has invariably been shunned by his old friends. None openly support Harry, and privately they must despair at his recklessness. There was not only his appallingly ill-judged interview with Oprah Winfrey, but his shocking denunciation of William and Kate in Apple podcasts and the contents of his book, Spare. Making money out of traducing his family and Britain's greatest institution has been beyond the pale for many of his friends.
As an intimate of the Waleses, Grosvenor must be well-attuned to their anger with the Sussexes.
Grosvenor did not need to be told by William, 'It's him or us.' Surely, that message was tacitly understood. The wedding snub makes the dilemma facing Harry much clearer. If he ever wishes to return to Britain - and Meghan has been reported as saying she never will - he will have to overcome an increasing number of obstacles. There was a chance to mend bridges. But Omid Scobie's ridiculous book, filled with hurtful slurs, offered the Sussexes the chance to distance themselves from this pestilent writer. But they have not issued any official rebuttal against the accepted view that Scobie is their mouthpiece.
Any chance of reconciliation between the Royal Family and the Sussexes is now fanciful. And Grosvenor's omission of Harry and Meghan from his wedding guest-list is tantamount to the British Establishment finally shutting the door on Harry and Meghan. by Tom Tom Bower is author of Revenge: Meghan, Harry And The War Between The Windsors
TOM BOWER: Harry's exclusion from the high society wedding of his family friend is proof that he's now an outcast | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12818491/TOM-BOWER-Harrys-exclusion-wedding-family-friend-outcast.html)
For what it is worth, The Sunday Times, Roya Nikkhah broke the above story with subsequent articles from other media outlets copyright purchasing to replicate and/or add their thoughts (Tom Bower).
The most important information IMO is not Harry being snubbed, but the fact that the couple had wanted the godparents to be a secret - Hugh is the godfather of George (age 10 to date, W&K, pictures and videos of godparents entering the church venue allowed) and when Archie was born (age 4 to date), godfather to him too (no video or pictures, no information of who the godparents are)
This is going to hurt, and hurt deeply for Harry (Meghan could care less as these people are not her friends)this is something Harry threw away, tossed in the garbage can, destroyed for the society he was in has shut the doors on him, slammed the doors and locked them and he has NObody but himself to blame. Yet Harry will never stop tormenting the royal family, he is rageful and angry and that is what is feeding his soul right now. Just seeing pictures, reading on the internet about the royal family is driving him mad with jealousy and why can't the royal family give me what I want. People all over the world that are royal watchers see his madness and emotional distress and like some I know just shake their heads. His mother would not be proud of him today...absolutely not!
The Only Hurt is that they can't sell their story to the highest bidder participating at the Duke of Westminster's wedding!
We won't show are children, we won't mention the godparents, PRIVACY. Next thing they did, show Archie stark naked taking a bath in their Netflix show.
I think somewhere deep inside Harry it will hurt personally if he has any feelings for his former life growing up with them......Meghan, well we know where she stands in regards to the royal family, she used Harry and them to get what she wanted, a mansion in one of the richest part of the US and near Hollywood, a title and lots of money, goal accomplished 100%. How this woman can look in the mirror and face herself daily is beyond me. Oh well, she is Harry's problem and thank goodness not part of the royal family anymore, they sure don't need someone like her around them. The royal family is just doing that they have to do, the job of supporting the country and the people...if you love your country and the people that to me should be an easy thing to do.
Who is Team Sussex and who stayed loyal to Team Wales? How Harry and William's high society friends have split their loyalties as its revealed the (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12823035/harry-william-high-society-friends-split-loyalties-brothers-duke-westminster-sides.html)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Not Invited to Friend's Wedding: Report (https://people.com/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-not-invited-duke-westminster-wedding-8410113)
Prince Archie to miss out on big role at godfather Duke of Westminster's wedding: report | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/508780/prince-archie-to-miss-out-on-big-role-at-godfather-duke-of-westminsters-wedding-report/)
Prince Harry and Meghan banned from wedding of Prince George's billionaire godfather | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1841496/prince-harry-meghan-wedding)
Prince Harry not being invited to pal's wedding 'shows how much of an outcast he is now' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-not-being-invited-31592495)
Quote from: Nightowl on December 04, 2023, 06:31:48 AM
I think somewhere deep inside Harry it will hurt personally if he has any feelings for his former life growing up with them......Meghan, well we know where she stands in regards to the royal family, she used Harry and them to get what she wanted, a mansion in one of the richest part of the US and near Hollywood, a title and lots of money, goal accomplished 100%. How this woman can look in the mirror and face herself daily is beyond me. Oh well, she is Harry's problem and thank goodness not part of the royal family anymore, they sure don't need someone like her around them. The royal family is just doing that they have to do, the job of supporting the country and the people...if you love your country and the people that to me should be an easy thing to do.
I?m agreed with you Meghan is BS she wanted everything and she wanted stealing spotlight from Duke of Westminster and his fianc?e?s wedding not on watch NOPE!! But thankfully god Duke of Westminster and his fianc?e makes decisions not invite Sussex due not back to Netflix one years ago December 2022 and Harry?s memoir January 2023 but this Duke of Westminster and his fianc?e?s big day on June 2024 not Sussex?s big day!!
Quote from: wannable on December 03, 2023, 05:29:56 PM
The Only Hurt is that they can't sell their story to the highest bidder participating at the Duke of Westminster's wedding!
We won't show are children, we won't mention the godparents, PRIVACY. Next thing they did, show Archie stark naked taking a bath in their Netflix show.
Yes Harry and Meghan wont mention about name of godparents and wont show face of Archie and lilibet not necessarily for that my advice for Harry and Meghan don?t publish the picture of naked in the bath!!
Quote from: Nightowl on December 03, 2023, 05:26:09 PM
This is going to hurt, and hurt deeply for Harry (Meghan could care less as these people are not her friends)this is something Harry threw away, tossed in the garbage can, destroyed for the society he was in has shut the doors on him, slammed the doors and locked them and he has NObody but himself to blame. Yet Harry will never stop tormenting the royal family, he is rageful and angry and that is what is feeding his soul right now. Just seeing pictures, reading on the internet about the royal family is driving him mad with jealousy and why can't the royal family give me what I want. People all over the world that are royal watchers see his madness and emotional distress and like some I know just shake their heads. His mother would not be proud of him today...absolutely not!
You?re right about that Harry and Meghan been drama for what?!? Months,years and weeks unacceptable in the tabloid
Quote from: sara8150 on December 04, 2023, 04:17:49 PM
Who is Team Sussex and who stayed loyal to Team Wales? How Harry and William's high society friends have split their loyalties as its revealed the (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12823035/harry-william-high-society-friends-split-loyalties-brothers-duke-westminster-sides.html)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Not Invited to Friend's Wedding: Report (https://people.com/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-not-invited-duke-westminster-wedding-8410113)
Prince Archie to miss out on big role at godfather Duke of Westminster's wedding: report | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/508780/prince-archie-to-miss-out-on-big-role-at-godfather-duke-of-westminsters-wedding-report/)
Prince Harry and Meghan banned from wedding of Prince George's billionaire godfather | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1841496/prince-harry-meghan-wedding)
The next hurt is I am hearing that Prince William IS the best man and Prince George is (with other boys) a page boy at the wedding.
Quote from: wannable on December 04, 2023, 06:13:41 PM
The next hurt is I am hearing that Prince William IS the best man and Prince George is (with other boys) a page boy at the wedding.
Well, what I?m hearing is the latest from one of your favourites, Neil Sean. He?s reporting that there is still considerable affection for Harry in aristo circles in England, and so, to avoid any drama, ie awkwardness with the Wales branch, it has been suggested to him (by presumably Hugh Grosvenor) that he would be welcome if he wished to attend the wedding alone.
Nice insult to Meghan, the woman Harry loves, I must say!! And hardly surprisingly there has been no response from Harry so far. If I were him I?d reply to Grosvenor that such an invitation is a gross insult to my wife and I certainly won?t be attending.
You have a point. Perhaps it is an insult to severe ties. His allegiance is sealed with the King and POW. Both families go way back too.
Quote from: wannable on December 05, 2023, 02:05:24 AM
You have a point. Perhaps it is an insult to severe ties. His allegiance is sealed with the King and POW. Both families go way back too.
I dont know what you mean by ?way back?. The Westminster dukedom is comparatively new compared to most as it is 19th century. And Bendor Westminster was certainly no friend of King George V and Queen Mary. He was considered rackety. As well, he was a traitor to his country during WW2.
Hugh?s father Gerald, who would lend his plane to the then Prince Charles for trips and to his sons for hunting expeditions to Germany, yes. And if Hugh wished to insult Harry then his best plan would have been to issue no invitation to either of the Sussexes and remain silent. He still wishes to remain friendly with Harry but doesn?t want a British media frenzy that always accompanies Meghan everywhere. It was probably couched in those terms to Harry. Harry has not yet replied. Yet.
The connections of both families come from way back. Way back definition: Long time ago. What is considered way back: no exact time
I disagree, the wedding guest list was purposely provided to the media to slap the trio - loose lips - if it were jolly/funny stories that many royals have done meaning no harm to anyone, but to date the trio like to make it up or half and half shame, embarrass, trash, gaslight or bully people that they mention verbally or in writing.
Wedding guest list - It could have perfectly been sent to the media by mid/end of January 2024, which is the norm 6 months before a grandiose wedding. Harry going alone like the Coronation, why bother? Straight from the airport to the cathedral to the airport. What fun!
The duo's debacle has a long tail, from trying to be back with Charles, they have zero chances with William and Catherine. Whatever moneys Charles can provide the duo, it is whilst he is alive, after him, it's over.
Duke of Westminster and his fianc?e makes decisions to invite King Charles and Prince William to his wedding on the lists I understand Duke of Westminster will not invite Sussex due bombshell interview back to Netflix one years ago and Harry?s memoir January 2023 and insult the royal family not necessarily for that
Prince William and his wife Catherine will bring George to wedding because Duke of Westminster is godfather of Prince George respectively we have wait and see till June 2024
The *harder* the Sussex's attack the royal family the *harder* they will fall in the world for who is more famous and has a longer history then the Sussex's, the BRF which is around a thousand years old. If the BRF can survive all that time, what makes the "Sussex's think they can take them down and destroy them? Their EGOS of course. Oh William deeply loves his wife and children, you attack them and he will do whatever to come after you and I don't blame him at all. The Sussex's better get all they can from Charles now while he is still king......William......that is another story for sure.
Real reason Duke of Westminster axed Harry and Meghan from his wedding guestlist: Royals' childhood friend feared 'history repeating itself' after row (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12824003/Real-reason-Duke-Westminster-axed-Harry-Meghan-wedding-guestlist-Royals-childhood-friend-feared-history-repeating-row-invite-Camilla-overshadowed-sisters-wedding.html)
I remember the row over the seating arrangements at the Van Cutsem/ Grosvenor wedding very well. The van Cutsems had been friends with Charles for decades. However, Emilie van Cutsem, who was a stickler for protocol, wouldn?t have Camilla sitting next to Charles at her son?s wedding because she was a mistress not a wife or even fianc?e and the Queen and Prince Philip were to be guests. Camilla was absolutely incandescent apparently at the so-called insult and so Charles and she withdrew and didn?t attend. Emilie van stuck to her guns and the relationship between Charles and Emilie went into the Polar regions for a while. Charles stuck to the woman he was determined to marry even if his mother wasn?t keen. So Charles and Camilla have something in common with his son!
Quote from: Curryong on December 05, 2023, 08:10:13 PM
Real reason Duke of Westminster axed Harry and Meghan from his wedding guestlist: Royals' childhood friend feared 'history repeating itself' after row (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12824003/Real-reason-Duke-Westminster-axed-Harry-Meghan-wedding-guestlist-Royals-childhood-friend-feared-history-repeating-row-invite-Camilla-overshadowed-sisters-wedding.html)
I remember the row over the seating arrangements at the Van Cutsem/ Grosvenor wedding very well. The van Cutsems had been friends with Charles for decades. However, Emilie van Cutsem, who was a stickler for protocol, wouldn?t have Camilla sitting next to Charles at her son?s wedding because she was a mistress not a wife or even fianc?e and the Queen and Prince Philip were to be guests. Camilla was absolutely incandescent apparently at the so-called insult and so Charles and she withdrew and didn?t attend. Emilie van stuck to her guns and the relationship between Charles and Emilie went into the Polar regions for a while. Charles stuck to the woman he was determined to marry even if his mother wasn?t keen. So Charles and Camilla have something in common with his son!
Oh yes i would remember that about seating arrangements and protocol
Camilla cant attend to Van Cutsem/Grosvenor?s wedding because of she mistress to Charles I understand Van Cutsem/Grosvenor been friend with Royal Family for decades
Late Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip did attend to Ed Van Cutsem and Lady Tamara Grosvenor?s wedding in November 6,2004 but William,Prince of Wales,Harry,Duke of Sussex and King Charles among attendees at wedding The wedding was attended by 650 guests
Hugh Grosvenor, 32, is to marry Olivia Henson, 30, at Chester Cathedral on June 7. The King, Queen, Prince and Princess of Wales and Prince George, who is the Duke's godson, are invited.
Quote from: sara8150 on December 06, 2023, 03:52:21 AM
Oh yes i would remember that about seating arrangements and protocol
Camilla cant attend to Van Cutsem/Grosvenor?s wedding because of she mistress to Charles I understand Van Cutsem/Grosvenor been friend with Royal Family for decades
Late Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip did attend to Ed Van Cutsem and Lady Tamara Grosvenor?s wedding in November 6,2004 but William,Prince of Wales,Harry,Duke of Sussex and King Charles among attendees at wedding The wedding was attended by 650 guests
Hugh Grosvenor, 32, is to marry Olivia Henson, 30, at Chester Cathedral on June 7. The King, Queen, Prince and Princess of Wales and Prince George, who is the Duke's godson, are invited.
William and Harry were both Ushers at the van Cutsem/Grosvenor wedding, nuptials which I remember people talking about for a very long time because of that story that leaked, but Charles and Camilla weren?t present. Due to the proposed seating arrangements they both refused to attend.
So Grosvenor camp says the Sussex are not invited.
The Sussex camp says they are but declined indirectly stating they are trouble so will not go.
Will the Grosvenor camp reply back is the question.
Quote from: Curryong on December 06, 2023, 05:10:31 AM
William and Harry were both Ushers at the van Cutsem/Grosvenor wedding, nuptials which I remember people talking about for a very long time because of that story that leaked, but Charles and Camilla weren?t present. Due to the proposed seating arrangements they both refused to attend.
That true
Quote from: wannable on December 06, 2023, 11:36:13 AM
So Grosvenor camp says the Sussex are not invited.
The Sussex camp says they are but declined indirectly stating they are trouble so will not go.
Will the Grosvenor camp reply back is the question.
Yes
Harry 'WAS given a save the date to Duke of Westminster's wedding but turned the invite down and said it would be too 'awkward' if he and Meghan (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12831097/Prince-Harry-Hugh-Grosvenor-wedding-snub.html)
More drama on Sussex
Humm, save the date, thought that was for things like office parties now, or friends getting together, not weddings, is that how invites are now for weddings? Just save the date? Anyhow more drama of course from the Sussex's is to be expected as usual with them......they have to be seen and heard daily anymore, they might vanish otherwise. It is just going to take some time is all as then they will become like Edward and Wallis in that big house in Monticello. It is called patience, so let them shout out how wonderful, important they are.......it is only their fans that love them, strangers in the night*
Quote from: Nightowl on December 07, 2023, 01:38:43 AM
Humm, save the date, thought that was for things like office parties now, or friends getting together, not weddings, is that how invites are now for weddings? Just save the date? Anyhow more drama of course from the Sussex's is to be expected as usual with them......they have to be seen and heard daily anymore, they might vanish otherwise. It is just going to take some time is all as then they will become like Edward and Wallis in that big house in Monticello. It is called patience, so let them shout out how wonderful, important they are.......it is only their fans that love them, strangers in the night*
I?m agreed with you Harry and Meghan is like Edward and Wallis but Edward and Wallis lived in France till Edward?s death in 1972 and Wallis?s death in 1986
Lady Sarah Chatto and her husband Daniel Chatto arrive at Westminster Abbey today
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/12/08/16/78744611-12842523-Lady_Sarah_Chatto_and_her_husband_Daniel_Chatto_arrive_at_Westmi-a-19_1702053930881.jpg)
Just wonderful to see them attending the event, love seeing all of them there, Catherine I believe puts her heart and soul into this and it shows. Boy is George growing tall, he will really be a tall lad as he grows up.
Does anyone know if it is being shown in the US and where.....I could not find it, Thanks
Quote from: Nightowl on December 09, 2023, 12:52:45 AM
Just wonderful to see them attending the event, love seeing all of them there, Catherine I believe puts her heart and soul into this and it shows. Boy is George growing tall, he will really be a tall lad as he grows up.
Does anyone know if it is being shown in the US and where.....I could not find it, Thanks
https://parade.com/culture/kate-middleton-christmas-carol-service-how-to-watch
Thank you Curryong for the info on the Swedish Noble Prizes. I like to watch it every year.
With all this talk about the invites, save the dates, and seating arrangements, I?m so excited to see who shows for the Duke?s wedding. Who do we think we will see aside from the Prince and Princess of Wales? I?d bet the whole Percy clan for one! I wonder if we will finally see the lovely Earl with a girlfriend? I can?t wait for all of the arrival pictures (hopefully we will get some)!
I doubt that the whole Percy clan will turn up, George and Max Percy perhaps. Melissa is married to an American, lives over there and has three very small children. She might attend but imo probably not. She seems settled in the US.
George has never, as far as Ive read about this clan, (Melissa and the Straubenzees were friendly with Harry as well) had a serious relationship with anyone of the opposite sex in spite of being a friend of Pippa Matthews years ago. He?s almost 40 now. And Max and his wife just have the one daughter. If Max has no sons that will be the end of that branch of the Percys, I?m afraid.
There is 700 aristocratic families in the UK alone
It will be the wedding of the decade
Quote from: wannable on December 28, 2023, 12:42:30 PM
There is 700 aristocratic families in the UK alone
It will be the wedding of the decade
It will undoubtedly be a big wedding. However, I doubt very much that representatives of 700 families will be turning up. There just aren?t the interwoven connections between the majority of those families that there once were, or were even fifty years ago. Few social occasions where they could all meet for example. The Season each year has long gone. It?s virtually an enclosed and shrunken world nowadays.
Hugh will have his friends and relatives and his fianc?e hers and there will be family friends from both sides, as with most weddings of whatever class. Yes, there will be a smattering of British royals. Highly doubtful that foreign royalty will turn up in large numbers, however.
Quote from: AristoHisto on December 28, 2023, 05:53:10 AM
With all this talk about the invites, save the dates, and seating arrangements, I?m so excited to see who shows for the Duke?s wedding. Who do we think we will see aside from the Prince and Princess of Wales? I?d bet the whole Percy clan for one! I wonder if we will finally see the lovely Earl with a girlfriend? I can?t wait for all of the arrival pictures (hopefully we will get some)!
This is going to be a very exciting event!!
The yearly Tatler Magazine social parties, country pursuits, etc. indicate the contrary to no interwoven connections.
Quote from: wannable on December 29, 2023, 03:34:35 PM
The yearly Tatler Magazine social parties, country pursuits, etc. indicate the contrary to no interwoven connections.
Did I say in my post there were NO interwoven connections among the British aristocracy? No I did not! Re-read my post please. What I stated was that there are not the interwoven connections between aristo families that there were even fifty years ago and certainly at the time of the great London Seasons which thrived until WW2.
And that is the truth.
And you can?t take Tatler mag as a true image of the entire British aristocracy and what country gentry there are left. The people who appear in Tatler are aristos and new money who enjoy social occasions, parties, gallery openings etc. That wouldn?t include half the families I?m talking about. Country life goes on, among neighbouring families and friends. Parties go on among neighbouring families and friends, and Tatler sometimes photographs some of them.
However, that world in 2023 does not compare to the world of say 1890, 1910, 1925 or 1935. Not even 1950 when the Season and aristo life was a shadow of what it had once been. And that?s what I meant when I said today it is a shrunken world. And it is.
Tatler is digital they monthly notify parties dinners and what not.
The social scene is back after the pandemic since 2022.
The last time the social scene in the UK was 100 💯 was 2019 every weekend something notable
2019 was also luckily special as financially all the aristocrats made themselves richer which was compared to the Victorian era.
The first part is Tatler digital
The last sentence is The Guardian
Quote from: wannable on December 29, 2023, 11:11:28 PM
Tatler is digital they monthly notify parties dinners and what not.
The social scene is back after the pandemic since 2022.
The last time the social scene in the UK was 100 💯 was 2019 every weekend something notable
2019 was also luckily special as financially all the aristocrats made themselves richer which was compared to the Victorian era.
Like I said. Some aristos and some new money and some in between enjoy parties about anything and having their picture in Tatler. A lot don?t. And ALL the aristos in GB made themselves richer in 2019. Remarkable, lol!
Again, you cannot compare the aristos who had great intact estates in the 19th century when taxation was 6d in the pound to today?s lot. Many aristocratic estates began shrinking after the agricultural depression of the 1870s and death duties meant that many estates were sold off after WW1. Fact.
And I noted in something I read the other day that Lord Max Percy sold off his entire landholdings several years ago, to the horror of tenants there who feared that the estate would be subdivided. So he isn?t interested in preserving his estates.
The Dowager Duchess of Rutland has passed away at 86.
How the Duchess of Rutland, who's died aged 86 at Belvoir Castle, never truly escaped the scandal around her 'Dirty Duchess' mother - who became a (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13000153/amp/how-duchess-rutland-life-marred-ghastly-publicity-nymphomatic-socialite-mother-granddaughters-memories-death.html)
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on January 25, 2024, 01:18:33 AM
The Dowager Duchess of Rutland has passed away at 86.
How the Duchess of Rutland, who's died aged 86 at Belvoir Castle, never truly escaped the scandal around her 'Dirty Duchess' mother - who became a (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13000153/amp/how-duchess-rutland-life-marred-ghastly-publicity-nymphomatic-socialite-mother-granddaughters-memories-death.html)
I think the Dowager Duchess was estranged from her mother for years. Frances was as beautiful as Margaret, stunning really, but my goodness what a person to have as a mother! I actually remember reading all the gory details of the Argyll divorce at the time. No scandal was ever attached to the Dowager Duchess, though. Several children, a quiet family life with her husband.
Frances Manners, Duchess of Rutland
Frances Manners, Duchess Of Rutland - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx0qFOUi5kw)
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1881783/hugh-grosvenor-wedding-prince-harry-prince-william
It's his big day but he invite William and Catherine, George to his wedding period i dont think he invite Harry to his wedding due back to his bombshell tell all memoir book in 2023,Oprah and Netflix but Hugh and his fiancée Olivia make decision to invite on the lists but Duke of Westminster send invite to Wales and monarch to his wedding on June 7 but King Charles been friend of Gerald Grosvenor, 6th Duke of Westminster
Was reading in another thread about the upcoming wedding and who of the male aristocrats would still be unmarried.. someone said George Percy had broken up with a girlfriend of 2 years last summer? That she was "blonde and owned her own business." Does anyone know about this?
I haven't read much about George Percy lately. He used to feature in the DM quite a bit but not for a while now
Same here! I think the last I saw of him was Pippa's wedding and the King's 70th birthday. I know their family prefers to be private so I'm sure they like us not knowing who they are/aren't dating!
Welcome, Aristo Histo!
Quote from: AristoHisto on March 30, 2024, 02:29:48 PMWas reading in another thread about the upcoming wedding and who of the male aristocrats would still be unmarried.. someone said George Percy had broken up with a girlfriend of 2 years last summer? That she was "blonde and owned her own business." Does anyone know about this?
George Percy has never been seen about with any serious girlfriend, blonde or otherwise. He was a close friend of Pippa's years ago and that's all it was. Friendship.
On another forum years and years and years ago, a poster claimed that he was going out with someone and said she stayed with the Percys sometimes and provided lots of imaginative details. When asked to verify her claims photographically (and this was in the days before smart phones) or otherwise, she couldn't and ceased posting.
I used to follow the single Prince Harry's circle which contained Lady Missy Percy before her first marriage, and later used to see photos of George's brother Lord Max with several girlfriends but George was always solo or hanging about with Pippa. So I think you can draw your own conclusions!
Quote from: Blue Clover on April 06, 2024, 03:27:34 AMWelcome, Aristo Histo!
Thank you! So happy to be here- and love catching up on all of these threads :)
Quote from: Curryong on April 08, 2024, 04:05:18 AMGeorge Percy has never been seen about with any serious girlfriend, blonde or otherwise. He was a close friend of Pippa's years ago and that's all it was. Friendship.
On another forum years and years and years ago, a poster claimed that he was going out with someone and said she stayed with the Percys sometimes and provided lots of imaginative details. When asked to verify her claims photographically (and this was in the days before smart phones) or otherwise, she couldn't and ceased posting.
I used to follow the single Prince Harry's circle which contained Lady Missy Percy before her first marriage, and later used to see photos of George's brother Lord Max with several girlfriends but George was always solo or hanging about with Pippa. So I think you can draw your own conclusions!
Ok this sounds more accurate then! The last woman I'd seen him with was at Pippa's wedding and that was apparently a friend's sister. Thank you!