Does Harry have a girlfriend?
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It would seem so. In days of old (1936 - Edward VIII & 1955 - Princess Margaret) we would be heading for a constitutional crisis. But we live in more relaxed times.
Well if we didnt have one with Charles and Camilla (which we should have, imo) the door's open and the horse is out of the barn now for future royal marriages.
Quote from: fawbert on November 03, 2016, 12:32:13 PM
It would seem so. In days of old (1936 - Edward VIII & 1955 - Princess Margaret) we would be heading for a constitutional crisis. But we live in more relaxed times.
That is true
@fawbert and since those years royal engagements/weddings have had the following: 1999-Single mother Mette Marit marries Norway's CP Haakkon, 2002- daughter of junta cabinet member Maxima Zorrigueta marries the NL's Prince of Orange Willem-Alexander, 2004-Divorcee Letizia Ortiz marries Spain's Prince of Austurias Felipe de Borbon y Grecia.
Even in the UK we've seen divorce and remarriage with the Princess Royal and Timothy Laurence. (Not going to bring up PoW and Doc.) IMO royals are increasingly choosing partners from a variety of socio-economic, ethnic, religious and racial backgrounds seemingly based upon shared interests, compatibility, and values. In fact the only royal marriages from the late 1990's-2000's with European reigning houses that have a spouse from an aristocratic background are Belgium's Phillipe and Mathilde and Luxembourg's Guillaume and Stephanie.
At this point in time most of the European royals who are in reigning houses and who married in the late 1990s-2000's, bucked the traditional choices that their royal parent had made and appear to be doing well. Most are still married to each other except for the NL's Friso-Mabel: his death and Norway's Princess Martha-Louise and Ari Behn.
If Meghan Markle turns out to be "the one" for Harry and she loves him back then I'll wish them good luck. :)
I am surprised more of us , regulars , have not posted. The subject is not TABOO. No one will be offended.
Why are we not discussing this HOT in the NEWS story???? We discuss everything else?
TLLK , true, but those are not the BRF . Theirs is more world known, higher rank, more in the news, subjects do demand as music , what they can of BRF to make some of the very little sacrifaces they do make which are very few, and far between, and PH is thisclsoe to the next line. 5ths so far, but he is the next monarchs' son. If he were QEII's cousins kid, like Marina, so what.
Going back in England....
If Edward had wanted to marry an American or European heiress who was never married , it could have been allowed.
If he had married any well off girl, a preKate type of England, it could have been allowed.
Wallis- no.
If Margaret had wanted to any one of the aristos/nobility/landed gentry, of course.
If she had wanted to marry and English man of the military , a TomPB type, ok.
Anyone guy of her country , single, never married, with some kind of career. Hell, even a working guy in media, author, ok.
I think these things were to protect them(Ed and Marg) as well as them having some kind of sacrifice.
I question too how happy and the woman he loved was Edward. These two went anywhere in front of anyone to be accepted. Hitler? the BRF SHOULD HAVE NEVER accepted them back for the slightest as burying Edward. he sympathzied with the man of evil who wanted to and did bomb England.
Marg was spoiled and never seemed to find happiness, was idol, living in QEII's shadow, etc.
But what about love?
People fall in and out of love all the time until the find the one will all the pieces that fit. When people marry the one they love , but all of the pieces do not fit, it usually means disaster. People who find love with all the pieces fitting, usually have a better chance at it.
Think about people you know who just loved, was in love with someone , but the families had nothing in common or his mother hated the girl with a passion or her mother hated him or she wanted kids and he did not or so forth.
PHarry is Diana's son and this is 2016. HE can date. She wanted her boys to marry for love and with love comes a support, security, etc.
PH cannot marry this smart, talented, gorgeous, American , divorced, UN Ambassador, biracial Blck and White, 35 year old, divorced, actress, kind-nice, Crenshaw resident which is like North end of England, I think, bankrupt divorced parents.
If he wants to, then there , no doubt would be concessions. His brother and family, cousins, etc. are his relatives and will love him and be in contact with him, friends, etc. His inheritance is his. I bet stuff in concessions like ...No title for wife and no title for kids. No keys to the magic kingdom of the good BRF freebie life of Kens apts, etc. and we knows those BRF ALL love their freebeeies.
I would think it would be more of a protection for him. Say they get married, divorce, Kids. She takes the kids to Crenshaw to visit and stay over at Granma's. On the set while she is acting in a new movie or tv show. The alimony settlement? Wow, this would the gift for the media that will forever live on .
Andrew loved Koo Stark. Maybe he did , we don't know. She was not fit for PofYork. Truly, Andrew is unfit and Fergie too. LOL!!
Truly, and it is not a racial thing, but Cressianda Bonas and her aristo mom and her mom's naked book and multi kids from various marriages and Cressinda wanting to be an actress was really pushing it.
I think PHarry might be one , the type who wants to be married, hme, kids. Age creeps up onus all. Others lifestyles, close to us, creeps up on us too. His married friends. He is like the 3rd wheel with W, K . A Kate sandwich she gets being by the 2 princes. LOL!!
If PH had a woman like Guy Pelly's heiress American wife, ok A European aristos, high military officer's daughter, ok. He is cousins to the titles European heads of Europe. They need , really, LOL,new bloodlines. Ewww, gets weird like old times.
Kate, really was pushing it and t took them and the media and 10 years for PW and K to have the right time.
K has better home life, etc. than PW. Still, the Brit press was , still is horrible to her and her family.
Imagine what the Brit media is going to do to this girl.
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Quote from: FanDianaFancy on November 04, 2016, 12:08:50 AM
I am surprised more of us , regulars , have not posted. The subject is not TABOO. No one will be offended.
Why are we not discussing this HOT in the NEWS story???? We discuss everything else?
TLLK , true, but those are not the BRF . Theirs is more world known, higher rank, more in the news, subjects do demand as much , what they can of BRF to make some of the very little sacrifaces they do make which are very few, and far between, and PH is thisclsoe to the next line. 5th so far, but he is the next monarchs' son. If he were QEII's cousins kid, like Marina, so what.
Going back in England....
If Edward had wanted to marry an American or European heiress who was never married , it could have been allowed.
If he had married any well off girl, a preKate type of England, it could have been allowed.
Wallis- no.
If Margaret had wanted to any one of the aristos/nobility/landed gentry, of course.
If she had wanted to marry an English man of the military , a TomPB type, ok.
Anyone guy of her country , single, never married, with some kind of career. Hell, even a working guy in media, politican, author, ok.
I think these things were to protect them(Ed and Marg) as well as them having some kind of sacrifice.
I question too how happy and the woman he loved was ( Edward). These two went anywhere in front of anyone to be accepted. Hitler? the BRF SHOULD HAVE NEVER accepted them back for the slightest thing such as burying Edward. He sympathzied with the man , Hitler, of evil who wanted to and did bomb England.
Marg was spoiled and never seemed to find happiness, was idol, living in QEII's shadow, etc.
But what about love?
People fall in and out of love all the time until the find the one will all the pieces that fit. When people marry the one they love , but all of the pieces do not fit, it usually means disaster. People who find love with all the pieces fitting, usually have a better chance at it.
Think about people you know who just loved, was in love with someone , but the families had nothing in common or his mother hated the girl with a passion or her mother hated him or she wanted kids and he did not or so forth.
PHarry is Diana's son and this is 2016. HE can date. She wanted her boys to marry for love and with love comes a support, security, etc.
PH cannot marry this smart, talented, gorgeous, American , divorced, UN Ambassador, biracial Blck and White, 35 year old, divorced, actress, kind-nice, Crenshaw resident which is like North end of England, I think, bankrupt divorced parents.
If he wants to, then there , no doubt would be concessions. His brother and family, cousins, etc. are his relatives and will love him and be in contact with him, friends, etc. His inheritance is his. I bet stuff in concessions like ...No title for wife and no title for kids. No keys to the magic kingdom of the good BRF freebie life of Kens apts, etc. and we know those BRF ALL love their freebeeies.
I would think it would be more of a protection for him. Say they get married, divorce, Kids. She takes the kids to Crenshaw to visit and stay over at Granma's. On the set while she is acting in a new movie or tv show. The alimony settlement? Wow, this would the gift for the media that will forever live on .
That is fine for any normal guy with a normal life lie a celeb. One indebted to his country and subjects, it gets to be different. World wide kidnappings. Money he gets for support for every aspect of his life from his country for his birthright, this gets different.
Andrew loved Koo Stark. Maybe he did , we don't know. She was not fit for PofYork. Truly, Andrew is unfit and Fergie too. LOL!!
Truly, and it is not a racial thing, but Cressianda Bonas and her aristo mom and her mom's naked book and multi kids from various marriages and Cressinda wanting to be an actress was really pushing it.
I think PHarry might be one , the type who wants to be married, hme, kids. Age creeps up onus all. Others lifestyles, close to us, creeps up on us too. His married friends. He is like the 3rd wheel with W, K . A Kate sandwich she gets being by the 2 princes. LOL!!
If PH had a woman like Guy Pelly's heiress American wife, ok A European aristos, high military officer's daughter, ok. He is cousins to the titles European heads of Europe. They need , really, LOL,new bloodlines. Ewww, gets weird like old times.
Kate, really was pushing it and t took them and the media and 10 years for PW and K to have the right time.
K has better home life, etc. than PW. Still, the Brit press was , still is horrible to her and her family.
Imagine what the Brit media is going to do to this girl.
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Quote from: stepperry on November 02, 2016, 08:10:43 PM
Does Harry have a girlfriend?
YES!
Is Meghan Markle Prince Harry's gf? How did they meet?
It seems to be...they met at the Invictus games from what i hear.
According to new report, harry and meg met thru harry friend, from Daily mail they met thru Eugene boss art dealer soon to be ex wife is a good friend of Megan and she set them up, so one again harry seems to count on his cousin to set him up!
That is why they were all in Scotland for harry birthday where she met prince Charles, William, kate.
All of this information are from daily mail websites. Yes they are dating that is why she keep shut up but keep throwing hint on her Instagram for fans, media, etc...
As for her not getting a title if all go well, I don't see her not getting a duchess the people will call the queen racist and worse because she is half black, I dare the Queen will allow another negative press, so if possible she will get a title and allow to use the tiara just like kate.
trust me her being born from both races will work well in her favor than anything else, The media will start using race card soon if the royal dare sob her, look at what is happening around the world including in politics.
I don't think the royal families want to make that mistake in not giving her everything kate get now or before she was royal including inviting her to things in public. Anyway I am still waiting on the first photo people magazine claim they got since yesterday where is it? Or are they waiting for the holidays gateway photo??
Now, it's been a while since I have posted on here but I do recall me saying or posting that Prince Harry may date and/or marry and American woman. And from what I have been hearing it might be serious! I also recall saying how great it would be if he married a black woman. Well, this woman is mixed, she's half black.
I am loving this!! If they do make it official, she will become the most popular royal with that family since Princess Diana because she is American born and raised and mixed. She is different then the others in the establishment.
Anyway, lets not get ahead of ourselves. I need to see how all this plays out. But again, I love it!!
good has a point. Unfortunately, the race car will get played and for QEII not to be accused as that, she will have to give PH it all: title, title for her, his tiaras, etc. NOW, if it gets to that point or marriage, well, so be it. And if it does, divorce too one day might be a big possibility and how will it all be divided up.
Kids? Belong to the crown? Crown jewels belong to the crown. Money, yes? Access to palaces for the kids will live there, yes.
Racist QEII? no.
Take MM heritage out.
Think back to others who dated BRF guys?
Cammila not suitable in the 1970's and PCharles was busy dating.
Susan George-no. Not suitable. White British, actress, not suitable.
Now Andrews-Koo Stark-White British, not suitable.
PHarry needs to find someone in his Kingdom. It is not that hard.
I see history here repeating itself PERHAPS as David and Wallis, yet MM not no where near a Wallis. Wallis was repulsive to me and was a people user.
YES, who knows . :-)
When one marries someone, they started out dating first.
Ask the mods to merge the threads.
When someone marries someone, they tart out dating first.
Sooooo....they ARE DATING.
Who knows!!!
if , IF they get to that pnt, I hoe she makes it last, is sincere. I hope PHarry is supportive fpr the log run, knows what he is getting ito by putting her in such a spot in that she will need support . The media will be vicious and the some of the aristos/nobility landed gentry will be mean.
Why, THEY were and ARE still to Kate AND her mother and sister.
Some of them all and media are ok , good to Kate now, but she took a lot of it over the years before the married.
Why does Prince Harry NEED to find someone in his kingdom? Perhaps, that is not what he wants! That is what matters here.
Because he is the son of the future monarch. Because he and his family will be the face of the BRF.
Because he nor his future children will be the next family in line as the next monarchs' family excuse PW and his wife and kids are after PCharles, he is still, so far, 5th in line .
Because, someone from his country, someone along Kate's soci-economic level even, can understand , really understand what his life will be like and that of his kids.
Because, I personally think, their realm of aristos, etc. is so small an so related, why not venture out.
PW did .
Because PH's wife will need a really thick skin and really , would have to true out the press , I would say for the first ten years of their marriage.
BEcause the Brit media will be far worst to her or just as bad to her as they were to Kate and still are to her mother and sister.
If he marries her, good!
If he dose not , good!!
Who knows. Maybe she does not to marry him.
Who knows, she might.
Who knows because everyone who marries starts out dating first.
PH really needs to, like PW and like his mother wished for her sons, to make someone happy and find that someone to make them happy. Find their special someone to love love.
Eugeine, Beatrice, Zara, who cares.
Peter married a girl MM from Canada . He and his family are way down the line and things.
No, this is not like Grace Kelly, the actress , who married the prince.
Monaco was not so major like BRF. Yes, Rainer was up next with his wife and kids as the Monaco RF.
Grace's parents were rich, married. Grace knew what she was getting into and she went the distance.
I think the trashy side of Monaco Rainers' kids came from his side.
This is awesome. :thumbsup:
If Prince Harry wants to marry his woman, he will regardless of what anyone says or thinks. And the Queen will give her blessing.
QuotePrince Harry and Meghan Markle's thoughts on love in their own words
Prince Harry is keeping his new relationship with Meghan Markle private, but he has previously made no secret of his desire to find love.
The 32-year-old has spoken about settling down on several occasions, admitting that it would be "absolutely fantastic" to meet someone special.
Read more:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's thoughts on love in their own words (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016110234393/prince-harry-megan-markle-thoughts-on-love/)
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QuoteIs this the woman who introduced Prince Harry to new love Meghan Markle?
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Misha Nonoo, who reportedly separated from old Etonian Alexander Gilkes recently, is a close friend of the Suits star and holidayed with her in Spain over the summer.
She was also in the UK, posting photographs from the Royal Enclosure at Ascot to her Instagram account in June.
Read more:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's matchmaker revealed (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016110234396/prince-harry-meghan-markle-matchmaker-revealed/)
I also think they have been dating for a while and the fact that it's public means it's serious and Prince Harry may be ready to make a move.
I think she is gorgeous! I hope this is the real deal for Prince Harry!
I think something is happening, otherwise someone would have denied it. I liked the girl, she seems nice, funny, committed to social issues and besides, she is very beautiful. :thumbsup:
Agreed, and
@Blue Clover ...I looove your avatar. :brightside:
Kensington Palace issues statement regarding relationship
A Statement by the Communications Secretary to Prince Harry | The Royal Family (https://www.royal.uk/statement-communications-secretary-prince-harry)
According to wikipedia, Meghan is a biracial, divorced Catholic (and American to boot). Harry is really stepping outside his comfort zone!
Yes, it is serious now this show they might marry to release a statement about his first official girl
I certainly think that the Palace statement indicates just how serious this affair is. Wedding bells on the horizon???
^ Well neither is 25 anymore ... so it's logical to think they got together to ultimately marry or I don't know what to think of Harry ... good luck to them I just find it weird she is liked by people who crucified and named called Cressida and her whole family names for Years ... other than that may they marry and have three children ... she being this or that doesn't matter he is an irrelevant Royal he will marry whoever he wishes ...
Well Cressida was not officially his girlfriend not like this. This is the first time the royal families make things official next stop wedding photo!
It seems desperate Megan past the Queen give them their blessings which is Great change!
I am glad he settled for a mature woman that got her life in together😊
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Yes it all pointing to that direction!
^ So that means people could /can abuse her? I don't get it :hmm: ... what does that even mean ? YOU liking "Meg" is ironic to say the least ...
I'm sorry, but I was hard on Cressida and this one is worse, far worse. I have no problem whatsoever with her ethnicity, I myself is a person of color, but a divorced actress with racy sex scenes all over the web... really, Harry? I'm out of here.
So what, the sex scene was for a tv show, her divorce does not matter, the Queen would have not improved of these romance from day one,for the palace to make this statement prove they all support harry and the Queen is aware and she does not care about the past. This is the second time beside kate for the royal house to defend royal girlfriend not even my girl chelsy or people favorite Cressida get this much of support like Megan! Everyone just have to deal with this and wish they well! Megan is harry choice she is what he want!
The institution of the monarchy is about prestige and being above the rest. You have an actress, it doesn't matter if it's her job, that's precisely the point, parading semi naked on screen and that's not a big deal. I know we're living in the era of the Kardashians, but I'm sorry, if you are going to chose and act like a celebrity then no thanks.
I agree with Eri that those who criticized Cressida, me being one of them, are now acting very differently.
Whatever. This doesn't effect my life so good luck to him. If anything, this has provided me with a good distraction on the Election Day stress.
Quote from: Vesper on November 08, 2016, 04:14:03 PM
I'm sorry, but I was hard on Cressida and this one is worse, far worse. I have no problem whatsoever with her ethnicity, I myself is a person of color, but a divorced actress with racy sex scenes all over the web... really, Harry? I'm out of here.
I don't know what the problem is with sex scenes. She is an actress, even consecrated actresses make sex scenes in movies these days. And being divorced is not a problem either. Harry's father and his uncles are too. :D
^Right, they were already a soap opera, now they are full on Kardahian.
LOL I fail to see exactly why her occupation or previous marriage should bar her from possibly becoming Harry's wife. Exactly what is unsuitable about her? Meghan is an actress it is a job, she does charity work and seems to have the same interests as Harry. Charles married a divorced woman so that argument is moot. Meghan is half African American so what? that isn't a disease. What matters is their being happy with one another and this is 2016 not 1936. I hope Harry just follows his heart.
Prince Harry warns press about harassing girlfriend
Meghan Markle: Prince Harry warns press about harassing girlfriend - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/europe/uk-prince-harry-meghan-markle/index.html)
Yeah. Good luck with that, Harry. If the press smells money, there isn't much you can do.
Guys, we'll have a British princess who is American and mixed. I love it! She'll become USA's princess too of sorts.
I wish them the best if it happens! We all need to support Harry and his decision here. And he is not an irrelevant royal either. He is in the top 5 in the line of succession and he is also very popular in UK and the US. She'll become the most popular royal in the family because he is American. Watch!!
The same people who had a problem with Cressida's THEATER PLAYS ... mind blowing ... nothing against Megan and more power to her being an actress as I love everything regarding art it's just the HYPOCRISY that is mind blowing ...
I can't believe we finally agree on something
@Eri
Quote from: Trudie on November 08, 2016, 06:20:22 PM
LOL I fail to see exactly why her occupation or previous marriage should bar her from possibly becoming Harry's wife. Exactly what is unsuitable about her? Meghan is an actress it is a job, she does charity work and seems to have the same interests as Harry. Charles married a divorced woman so that argument is moot. Meghan is half African American so what? that isn't a disease. What matters is their being happy with one another and this is 2016 not 1936. I hope Harry just follows his heart.
Amen!!! I agree 100%!!
Seriously LET it go, This is not about Cressida, I don't get why everything have to do with Cressida! This is about Megan, people might not be inlove with Cressida like you, if you want apologies for Cressida you got it, So let it go and let harry be HAPPY with his choice Megan. His families are happy for him why cannot everyone be happy. If things dont work out down the line that is on Him not us. So let move on from crying wolf. same people also have HUGE issues with chelsy, you don't see everyone blame/ angry at that, Cressida and Megan got it better compare to chelsy the people and media HATE up until today, so let not compare note!!🙄
Quote from: Vesper on November 08, 2016, 05:42:22 PM
The institution of the monarchy is about prestige and being above the rest. You have an actress, it doesn't matter if it's her job, that's precisely the point, parading semi naked on screen and that's not a big deal. I know we're living in the era of the Kardashians, but I'm sorry, if you are going to chose and act like a celebrity then no thanks.
I agree with Eri that those who criticized Cressida, me being one of them, are now acting very differently.
Whatever. This doesn't effect my life so good luck to him. If anything, this has provided me with a good distraction on the Election Day stress.
It is only a problem for some now because she is American and mixed. If it were anyone else, her being an actress or anything else would not matter. It's problem now because of her background. Well we're not in the 1930s. This is 2016.
Harry is going to marry her regardless of what anyone says or thinks if that is what he wants and we all know it! And I'd bet odds he has long since spoken to his grandmother about it and she has given her blessing. So talk of this nature is a waste of time.
I'll be waiting for my invitation. :P
For the record, I'm black so I could care less what her skin color is. Black people can be opportunist too, and I would applaud the diversity, if it didn't come in the form of a person playing games.
You are right about one thing, it's not my life so good luck to him.
Never has he had TPTB issue a statement. Her treatment? IS it no more , no less, no different than Kate, Cressida, Chelsy, or even then Lady Diana.
Could it be that serious after 6 mnths or so?
That is wrong with her? She is college educated, graduated, working and not lofting on inheritance, parent's income, etc., older, wiser, veryveryvery pretty, photogenic, charitable -UN , and more.
YES, her ex husband will sell his story.
YES, her not so close family members have sold a story they truly, from what we gather, don not know no more than we do and are not that close.
Being a person of color, being a person of divorced parents, being non British or of the Commonwealth as in she does not have grasp of the history of the what Harry's life is set to be and where he goes, sees, his lids, etc.,
She would be marrying an institution in Harry. She would have to be very strong and supported as Kate is and even then Lady Diana/D,PofW was not. It is celebrityville American style. Having the Prince/Princess of Suffolk ( whatever hi kids will be titled) visit grammy in Crenshaw or grandaddy in Mexico, ummmm, no!!!!!!
For K to have her kids at her Brit parent's house, there is massive security( after the birth of her first child and she went off to Mommy and Daddy's).
Marrying him, there would be no turning back. It is not a Disney tale. The media is now, will be, and will always be bitter on her and the aristos/nobility .landed gentry would have it in for too because PH married HER. Kate, from what is said , never took a liking , developed a strong friendships with W 'world and she has few, very FEW ,like a handful of friends due to her marriage. She seemed to have none, maybe 2-3 before marrying him that were friends of her own.
Diana had a few good friends of her before marriage and after, but of the aristos/nobility, etc., not really. They all sided with the crown PCharles and his thing, Cammilla.
It can be lonely living n the Cinderella gated palaces of the Princes world in 2016.
Names for kids? Selection from the ancestorial names. No Justins, Drews, Jacobs, Ian, Jessicas, Ashleys, Nicoles, Mirandas, etc.
If she could understand what she would be getting herself into, yet worth it for just her husband , Harry, and their kids, behind the palace gates and walls, FINE!!! If Harry would understand he deep security she would need from him to block out the world, FINE!!!!
PW and family, PH and family ARE the future of the BRF and until PW's kids grow up and get married, and then push PH's down. That is a longgggggg time off like 30 years. It is a long time off for PCharles to become King Charles too....maybe 10 years away.
Good luck to MM and H because M more so than H will need it more so than K and Diana.
At least the were British , fully understood it all with Diana being born into sort of and K watched from the sides for 10 years. K and Diana understand their history, their country, the meaning of it all?
American MM, not so.
Being Blck American, to me, is last on the list. HOWEVFER I WILL TELL OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE OF THE POND...
NOW I will tell you this . ere there will be a big pull for MM by Black American for her to tour South Side Chicago, South Central Los Angeles, speak at Black universities, be a figure in Black American history week, be honorary member of Black American sororities-AlaphaKA, ZetaPhiBeta, meet with Black Civil Rights leaders, Black Congressional Congress and speak before Congress, be a presenter at the BET Awards, NAACP Awards, the list is endless. Don't forget her endorsement for national elections.
I am saying all this and I am Black American.
THOSE ARE DUTIES of a British Princess ...even MM!!!
She maybe would fold into pressure to do, HOWEVER that is not her role. She cannot do those things. A NRITISH PRINCESS DOE SNOT OF THESE THINGS. She would also take on British citizenship and Protestant faith. LOOK, Black America is here and the are quite possessive of things going on like are you "woke?" Where is Black Lives Matter tee-shirt? That is the new phrase for people who are Blck and well off or suburban like MM, and what is their stance on Black American and the police situation ? YES, her role ad duties in her life as wife would clearly defined as they are for K, were for Diana . Like I said , her children traveling outside for the UK and their names, schools, etc., lots of limited freedoms, but then trade off the wealth, unlimited wealth, heath, lifestyle that no one else in celebrtiyville or politics has and she would have this for life.
Her ethnicity is not a biggie for me, but being able to fully understand what she would be getting into.
I am glad Harry has found someone. I got so tired of the press trying to set him up. At least she has been out in the real working instead of being wrapped up in a bubble waiting like dolittle was. Everyone keeps talking about about how she is milking this relationship in the press.Remember Kate's campaign to get the ring .I watched her UN speech on YouTube and I can see why Harry likes her.
It is unfortunate how the media has treated Meghan. It would be splendid to have a Royal Engagement announcement before Christmas.
:happyuk: :happyuk: :happyuk: :happyuk:
^^^Personally if they are serious then I'd like to see them wait a bit before announcing an engagement. Recent BRF history has shown that a brief courtship/engagement does not equal a long and stable marriage. The more recent successful marriages in the BRF have been with couples who dated for years before becoming engaged.
I think they will not wait long. Harry seems very interested in her and both are already at a mature age. :hug:
@FanDianaFancy I totally agree, she has no idea what she's getting herself into and thinks it's all adulation. This is why Harry came out with his press release. She thought people would rally behind her and had no idea what she was facing or how to relate to the British public. She is too self-aggrandizing and they see through this and call her out on this but they fall back on the poor excuse of racism. It's not racism dear, they see your fake and poor attitude. It's sad that so many people can see how fake this woman is BUT Harry. He is as dumb as a box of rocks sometimes. He also must be desperate to be clutching on to a woman who is so poorly suited for the royal family. It's not going to be strawberries and champagne dear. She needs to get over her ego and realize that people will not bow and scrape to such an arrogant person. Black people are going to expect her to be the mouthpiece for them but boy oh boy will they be surprised when they realize she really doesn't identify with them, then the claws will come out from blacks too. This girl is nothing but trouble and the fact that everyone in her family is speaking to the press and her online photo leaks to get the press and people talking about her shows she lacks discretion and is so far removed from the norms of British society that she would never make it.
^ I will have to agree that while I have no issues with her REALLY (I don't) she is problematic on so many fronts ... I also agree I don't get why Harry whines about what Megan is getting when :
a. His past girlfriends have gotten it WORSE and I have seen NO "racist" "undertones" about her that is ridiculous pointing out her race is not being a racist ...
b. He now has put the attention and an incredible amount of pressure on both of them with his statement ... Harry truly is dumb as a rock ... he might start by telling her to close down her Instagram and Snapchat that she uses as a tool to get attention before whining about the attention she is getting ...
The woman is too addicted to attention to even try. She is going to milk this for all it's worth. I don't even feel bad for Harry anymore because he is letting her run him in circles and now it's hurting his image. Hope the bedroom antics are worth all of this trouble for him. I truly believe that Harry is desperate now, he picks the most unsuitable woman and then gets mad at the world for noticing and pointing it out. He's not thinking but then again that has never been his strong point.
Quote from: HsHCharlene on November 09, 2016, 05:37:37 AM
@FanDianaFancy I totally agree, she has no idea what she's getting herself into and thinks it's all adulation. This is why Harry came out with his press release. She thought people would rally behind her and had no idea what she was facing or how to relate to the British public. She is too self-aggrandizing and they see through this and call her out on this but they fall back on the poor excuse of racism. It's not racism dear, they see your fake and poor attitude. It's sad that so many people can see how fake this woman is BUT Harry. He is as dumb as a box of rocks sometimes. He also must be desperate to be clutching on to a woman who is so poorly suited for the royal family. It's not going to be strawberries and champagne dear. She needs to get over her ego and realize that people will not bow and scrape to such an arrogant person. Black people are going to expect her to be the mouthpiece for them but boy oh boy will they be surprised when they realize she really doesn't identify with them, then the claws will come out from blacks too. This girl is nothing but trouble and the fact that everyone in her family is speaking to the press and her online photo leaks to get the press and people talking about her shows she lacks discretion and is so far removed from the norms of British society that she would never make it.
Why so aggressive? Do you know her so well to accuse her of being false? False why? I've done a lot of research on her, for me she's a serious, mature, committed girl on humanitarian issues long before she meets Harry, How so, does not she identify with blacks? You not have read anything about her, because she says that consider yourself black as well and fight for equal rights. What is happening is because racist people are not accepting her and so they point out a thousand defects. I doubt if she were not African American, they'd be talking those things. :no:
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Quote from: Eri on November 09, 2016, 11:15:49 AM
^ I will have to agree that while I have no issues with her REALLY (I don't) she is problematic on so many fronts ... I also agree I don't get why Harry whines about what Megan is getting when :
a. His past girlfriends have gotten it WORSE and I have seen NO "racist" "undertones" about her that is ridiculous pointing out her race is not being a racist ...
b. He now has put the attention and an incredible amount of pressure on both of them with his statement ... Harry truly is dumb as a rock ... he might start by telling her to close down her Instagram and Snapchat that she uses as a tool to get attention before whining about the attention she is getting ...
Why should she close the instagran? She is not a silly, insecure girl who cares what others think. Harry spoke up because he was upset over the attacks she is receiving from intolerant people. And with you not worth discussing, for you a single person who serves for Harry is Cressida
This is silly- a single statement and we're marrying them off already!! :lol: I think it's entirely possible for a relationship to progress from dating to marriage in a few months, but it's unlikely for a long distance relationship to progress that quickly. Hopefully Harry and Meghan have the intelligence to live in the same city for a few months, before getting that serious.
@Cat00 The first thing you guys always pull is the race card. Let me tell you something about myself. I am a mixed race woman with a Jamaican mother and American (white) father. Now does that sound like a racially hating person to you. No, every time some people disagree they want to call others names to shame them into thinking the same. I can think for myself and can clearly see this one is a fame slore who is out for attention. She makes all of his exes AND Kate look like child's play. Look at most of the internet comments and see for yourself. I'm not the only person that sees how fake and self-aggrandizing this woman is. I think some black/mixed race women are fighting so hard for her to be accepted out of some sort of self-validation. I don't care what color a girl Harry dates is, but I will not be willfully blind to indiscretions by her or her family or play up the image she is selling of herself. The saying, "you can fool some people all the time; all people some of the time; but not all people all of the time" comes to mind here. People can see through her shallow mask and the ones who choose not to will only play the race card because there is no excusing her behavior thus far. The idea that I don't know her and can't have an opinion but somehow YOU know her better than I do says it all to me. This female is trouble and I can see it from a mile away, and that has nothing to do with her color. Sometimes I think brown people are more color obsessed than the rest of society. I don't need a brown girl on Harry's arm to validate me. I would like to see Harry with someone that will last and is not in it for fame/perks. This girls wants the lifestyle, not the real role.
@Cat00 And here I thought having Instagram was a mortal sin only when it comes to Cressida who was named called for having pictures on Instagram it seems ... this is amazing ... Cressida , Kate , Chelsy and even Flee were all called every name in the book them and their whole families welcome to something called the Internet ... she will be attacked like everybody else ... not everybody is going to like her and she better develop the thick skin Kate has if she wants to be with him ...
The woman is an opportunist, period. I don't care if she's black, white, red or yellow. This damsel in distress act is typical of... guess who: a z-list actress trying to capitalize on her new found fame.
Cressida was right, Harry is STUPID. Let me go find a Hollywood starlet, who's leaking info to laineygossip, but how dare you not respect my privacy. She's looking for fame you moron.
QuotePrince Harry's secret escape to see girlfriend Meghan Markle in Toronto revealed
His plans to visit his new girlfriend in Canada were apparently scuppered last week when the news broke that Prince Harry is dating actress Meghan Markle.
But according to various reports, Harry did actually make it out to Toronto, and he spent the Halloween weekend trick-or-treating with his new love interest.
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Prince Harry visits girlfriend Meghan Markle in Toronto (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016110334429/prince-harry-meghan-markle-halloween/)
I found this post on another forum, these are the cartoons on the daily newspapers in London. :teehee:
The Times of London@thetimes
Today's cartoon by @BrookesTimes
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Quote from: Jennifer on November 09, 2016, 08:51:41 PM
QuotePrince Harry's secret escape to see girlfriend Meghan Markle in Toronto revealed
His plans to visit his new girlfriend in Canada were apparently scuppered last week when the news broke that Prince Harry is dating actress Meghan Markle.
But according to various reports, Harry did actually make it out to Toronto, and he spent the Halloween weekend trick-or-treating with his new love interest.
Read more:
Prince Harry visits girlfriend Meghan Markle in Toronto (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016110334429/prince-harry-meghan-markle-halloween/)
He must be very in love !! how Cutel! Can not wait to see pictures of the two of them together ... :hug: :hug:
Quote from: HsHCharlene on November 09, 2016, 09:36:34 PM
I found this post on another forum, these are the cartoons on the daily newspapers in London. :teehee:
The Times of London@thetimes
Today's cartoon by @BrookesTimes
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I am glad he is being attacked for his attack on the press ... he is a useless 30 something years old who lives off the British Tax Payers given that he refuses to actually WORK so he better shut up ... his piece of the Month ain't no shrinking violet she is a 35 years old who I assume knew who she was starting to sleep with so he is being ridiculous ...
Quotebut according to various reports, Harry did actually make it out to Toronto, and he spent the Halloween weekend trick-or-treating with his new love interest.
:lol: Dressed as Chucky and Bride of Chucky? Kind of odd two thirty somethings going door to door requesting candy! :eyes: :lol:
Quote from: HsHCharlene on November 09, 2016, 02:58:59 PM
@Cat00 The first thing you guys always pull is the race card. Let me tell you something about myself. I am a mixed race woman with a Jamaican mother and American (white) father. Now does that sound like a racially hating person to you. No, every time some people disagree they want to call others names to shame them into thinking the same. I can think for myself and can clearly see this one is a fame slore who is out for attention. She makes all of his exes AND Kate look like child's play. Look at most of the internet comments and see for yourself. I'm not the only person that sees how fake and self-aggrandizing this woman is. I think some black/mixed race women are fighting so hard for her to be accepted out of some sort of self-validation. I don't care what color a girl Harry dates is, but I will not be willfully blind to indiscretions by her or her family or play up the image she is selling of herself. The saying, "you can fool some people all the time; all people some of the time; but not all people all of the time" comes to mind here. People can see through her shallow mask and the ones who choose not to will only play the race card because there is no excusing her behavior thus far. The idea that I don't know her and can't have an opinion but somehow YOU know her better than I do says it all to me. This female is trouble and I can see it from a mile away, and that has nothing to do with her color. Sometimes I think brown people are more color obsessed than the rest of society. I don't need a brown girl on Harry's arm to validate me. I would like to see Harry with someone that will last and is not in it for fame/perks. This girls wants the lifestyle, not the real role.
I'm sorry but who are you to make that kind a judgement and what Meghan motives are?! Do you know this girl or Harry? No, you don't!
She is making good money as an actress on a hit show. She doesn't need Harry for the lifestyle.
Like I said, many a person sees the same thing. She's not a big star but now she is with Harry on her arm. Let's not pretend she's an A list actress here. My opinion is what I said. If I can't make a judgement on her being a social climber, then it goes both ways and others can't make the judgement as if she is perfect or right for Harry. I know her as well as anybody else here. She is using him and hundreds of other commentators have said the same thing. This isn't coming out of thin air from me. Her actions speak volumes as to get motivations. She wants to be seen with Harry! She had made no effort to hide her pleasure at being in the limelight.
^ I think anyone who dates Harry HAS to like the limelight ... me and you or a random girl who wants a PRIVATE life won't date him ... I also think whoever dates him won't be a modest girl who doesn't like money and the position that came with him ... Chelsy did , Flee and Cressida did that is normal ... let's face it Sophie and Kate didn't marry Will and Edward because they are good looking or for their personality ... it's her being more problematic than a girl who got treated like a Monster and had her whole family ABUSED and now being worshiped by the same people who ABUSED Cressida and her family that bothers me ...
Well, personally I don't mind a woman who accepts the public interest that comes with Harry. The issue is using Harry to gain public interest is what I find tasteless and tacky. Along with her flouting false accomplishments to make herself look better like a new Princess Diana or Mother Theresa. Royal reporters online are discussing why she was claiming that someone tried to barge into her house and that's why police were there. When witnesses said there was no one trying to get into her house and only 3 photographers outside. She didn't look very frightened with that smug look on her face. The reporters are calling her out on BS of all the claims of abuse and now she's going into hiding. Kate and other girlfriends had to deal with so much worse but somehow this woman thinks everyone should love her but when they don't she pulls that trusty race card to get herself out of the jam that she created for herself. I don't feel sorry for her one bit and I hope the media keeps giving all of the attention she asked for.
^ I find that claim weird as well ... if there are that many photographers outside her home and it got that bad we would hear of arrests and we surely would get daily pictures of her but no so far she has been photographed only twice ... I also never saw racist posts or articles using racist undertones if anything everybody was very exited Harry finally got a girlfriend :notworthy: ... no this was her forcing his hand in acknowledging her and she succeeded ...
I honestly don't get everyone problems seriously what is the issues? Harry was not force to acknowledge Megan, she is his girlfriend why is that a issues or a mortal sin for him to say!
Honestly I had enough of same B.S Routine of taken down any harry girlfriend because people want to keep living in denial instead of acceptance and move on!
Harry is with Megan because he love and care for her so far his action prove it, he could have easy break up with her the moment this went public he owe Megan nothing but they are still together!
Enough of because I am black I cannot like her because of sex scene really you are not force to like Megan because you share colors race or hair color with her! I have never see this much prejudice and injustice for a woman and man(harry) we no nothing about beside what is print out in paper! it his choice not the newspaper or his fan club choice.
If a reality star with no president experience can become president of American, Megan will be fine as addition into the royal firm. If Harry decided to take that far, so let take a chill pill and let harry be!
If down the road his choice are mistake that will be on him to deal with it!
P.S since all harry ex Cressida, chelsy, Camilla, Amada,Florence, etc.. all move on and happy with their significant others Why can their fan club do the same and stop rehash the past! According to the media they all wish him well!
Grace Kelly was also an actress and kissed men in the movies, at the time kiss a man who was not her boyfriend, husband, was a scandal and the prince of Monaco married her. Nowadays any actress does sex scenes in movies, even consecrated actresses, I don't know why that would be a problem, if it's just a staging. And she is already giving a career time, if she marries him, she will abandon her career, she has other activities: clothing brand, humanitarian work ... The fan club of Harry's ex girlfriends do not understand that he is now with someone else and like her :notamused:
Quote from: good221 on November 10, 2016, 01:38:29 PM
I honestly don't get everyone problems seriously what is the issues? Harry was not force to acknowledge Megan, she is his girlfriend why is that a issues or a mortal sin for him to say!
Honestly I had enough of same B.S Routine of taken down any harry girlfriend because people want to keep living in denial instead of acceptance and move on!
Harry is with Megan because he love and care for her so far his action prove it, he could have easy break up with her the moment this went public he owe Megan nothing but they are still together!
Enough of because I am black I cannot like her because of sex scene really you are not force to like Megan because you share colors race or hair color with her! I have never see this much prejudice and injustice for a woman and man(harry) we no nothing about beside what is print out in paper! it his choice not the newspaper or his fan club choice.
If a reality star with no president experience can become president of American, Megan will be fine as addition into the royal firm. If Harry decided to take that far, so let take a chill pill and let harry be!
If down the road his choice are mistake that will be on him to deal with it!
P.S since all harry ex Cressida, chelsy, Camilla, Amada,Florence, etc.. all move on and happy with their significant others Why can their fan club do the same and stop rehash the past! According to the media they all wish him well!
These kinds of judgements are GENERALLY made from women about other women's motive's such as Meghan, stems from jealously and envy. Some don't want other women of to have anything. She is dating one of most famous men in the world and it's not them.
Quote from: good221 on November 10, 2016, 01:38:29 PM
I honestly don't get everyone problems seriously what is the issues? Harry was not force to acknowledge Megan, she is his girlfriend why is that a issues or a mortal sin for him to say!
Honestly I had enough of same B.S Routine of taken down any harry girlfriend because people want to keep living in denial instead of acceptance and move on!
Harry is with Megan because he love and care for her so far his action prove it, he could have easy break up with her the moment this went public he owe Megan nothing but they are still together!
Enough of because I am black I cannot like her because of sex scene really you are not force to like Megan because you share colors race or hair color with her! I have never see this much prejudice and injustice for a woman and man(harry) we no nothing about beside what is print out in paper! it his choice not the newspaper or his fan club choice.
If a reality star with no president experience can become president of American, Megan will be fine as addition into the royal firm. If Harry decided to take that far, so let take a chill pill and let harry be!
If down the road his choice are mistake that will be on him to deal with it!
P.S since all harry ex Cressida, chelsy, Camilla, Amada,Florence, etc.. all move on and happy with their significant others Why can their fan club do the same and stop rehash the past! According to the media they all wish him well!
YOU liking her is very weird given what you think of Cressida and all the ABUSE she suffered on you hand ... and no I won't move on because it doesn't make sense YOU like someone who is an actress and has Instagram AND Snapchat things that YOU found to be mortal sins when it came to Cressida ... it is unfair the ABUSE a young woman and her family suffered for no particular reason and no I will not move on because that is unfair and mind blowing ...
Apparently Harry and Meghan were together a good six months before this became public. So far I haven't heard anything about Meghan beyond the breaking of their romance and Harry's statement. I personally don't care what her ethnic background is her occupation etc. If her motivations appear to be self serving well Harry is surrounded by trusted people who can clearly see what the agenda is and advise him. That said the relationship is in the early stages so lets all reserve judgment and let Harry decide if this is the woman he wants to marry.
Okay if the women saying these things are jealous that it's not them. Tell me why so many men have commented on this woman and say the same things? :hmm: Right, those men must want Harry for themselves too by that logic. It's always something: racist, jealous, etc. How about people, not just on this forum, are all saying the same thing. You have every right to disagree but labeling the person who disagrees is not a rational argument. Did you guys see the cartoons posted by the London papers? Right, the cartoonist must be jealous of that woman too. Harry is so irresistible that even those men want him. :P
Harry's statement indicates the seriousness which he views the relationship.
As I've mentioned many times over the years, my preference for the British Royal Family is to have a new member like Queen Maxima, for example. The next generation of royals is seriously lacking the education, work, professional development, life experience of their European counterparts.
Maxima didn't chance media attention, but she has accepted it is a part of the role and undertakes public duties with grace and class. She had a successful career before marrying into the royal family which didn't have public attention at its core.
In these days, younger actors working to establish themselves are, almost by necessity, obligated to essentially chase fame, recognition and attention. Such as through appearing at premiers, running social media accounts (usually with strong links to advertising products etc), attending interviews. This is all key parts of their job, and I understand that.
But from a personal perspective, I prefer a more discreet approach than what comes from working as a tv/movie actor/tress. When you look at the majority European Royals who have a decade or so on William, Kate, Harry, and most of whom have recently acceded to King/Queen, they are really are an ilk above them in many measures; education, professional work experience, global life experience (living or travelling extensively abroad), languages.
I had hoped that Harry might follow the excellent European example, but it would appear that it not the case. Should this relationship develop into a marriage, it will be interesting to observe and assess her approach to royal duties.
Yes, Envy! Here in my country when someone is a victim of envy, we point out a thick "salt bath to ward" off the negative vibes. I think Meghan needs :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
@Eri neither harry or Cressida know you exist, for you to be this passionate about their past, since you refuse to let it go because harry your imaginary bother will never acknowledge you like Megan you are Piss off! As I said before harry does not care about what any one think , the only person that matters to him now is Megan you can either accept it or you can go fly a kite!
Harry always want a mature relationship if he think he find it in Megan so be it! All I want to do now is work and live my life not harry life I will advise everyone should do the same😎
Quote from: Cat00 on November 10, 2016, 05:22:27 PM
Yes, Envy! Here in my country when someone is a victim of envy, we point out a thick "salt bath to ward" off the negative vibes. I think Meghan needs :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Salt away, you guys will need the Red Sea's salt to make the negative public view of this girl go away. :lol: I wish you luck.
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Look, Harry is going to marry Meghan if that is what he wants to do and we all know it! All this back and forth is a waste! Can we move on?
To marry them off is just ridiculous given how little time they have spend together ... I don't get this ... in the Summer he was in Africa and she was rarely in London according to her Instagram ...
Ill defer to others that are following it more closely than I but it would be a normal day if we didnt disagree LOL :partaay: With technology today its easier than ever for ppl to stay in touch while travelling, plus from what i hear the kids today love their snapchat and instagram and such^^.
Also looking back Charles spent fair amount of time away from Diana when courting, also C&C spend plenty of time apart ( theyre hooked on their sneaking around :lol: )
IDK if theyre getting hitched, but it seems to be the most serious relationship hes had in awhile.
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If Harry marries Meghan, will the press compare him to Trevor Engelson?
More and more serious!
Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle spotted in London near Kensington Palace | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3925422/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-spotted-London.html)
Honestly the paparazzi need to STOP!🙄
I think another wedding coming up. Sophie was also allowed to stay over at KP when she and Prince Edward were dating :hehe:
Didnt every one for years and YEARS YEARS! say you had to be in royal circle like cressida & florence there friends ALL THE TIME you had to be in there circle like chelsey hanging with cressida brother and :censored: and had to be blond etc.
Worse she got the career (even if she has done sex scenes that could be a problem) fame redcarpet parties Cressida Florence DREAMED OF :Jen: :Jen: they took every event given to them.
THIS IS MY MOMENT!!!! I'VE WAITED LONGER THAN KATE :yesss:FOR THIS she rubs it in all there face with having done anythink.
Cressida got the same bad treatment worse treatment than meghan by far but nothing said EVER IN TWO YEARS (when you include rumors of cheating in vegas days).
I'M SO SO SMUG and only came hear to gloat :hehe:
But i always said lots of us did and got :censored: for it cressida and florence team friends gave so many exclusives :PR:even pictures sold stuff & bragged :paparazzi: :PR: :PR: :PR:, Mollie king did it and caroline flack lied then sold her story in a book and still talks about it.
It was there own fault but still Harry "was just private" now look a few months in and a few mean things said and offcial statement is made. :monkey: :sarcastic: :laugh10: :yesss: :hehe:
The most recent article says he did it publicly. When? And what did he say?
QuotePrince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle spotted in London near Kensington Palace | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3925422/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-spotted-London.html)
Ooh! She was seen entering Kensington carry things and stuff. Like Cressida in the past leaving carrying...a radio...or a portrait of a shifty-eyed King. :shrug: :lol:
Quote from: Cat00 on November 11, 2016, 01:33:32 AM
I think another wedding coming up. Sophie was also allowed to stay over at KP when she and Prince Edward were dating :hehe:
Huh ... so did Cressida and Chelsy ... times have changed I doubt Liz knows or cares who Harry is sleeping with ... NO way she will allow this one to be a Countess though that is when she will be heard :windsor1: and "Meg" will be history ...
IMO, I don't expect a wedding too soon. She just went to see her boyfriend and bought food while he was out working. Many of his girlfriends in the past have stayed with him including Chelsy and Cressida. Her going to her lover's house does not indicate marriage so I wouldn't hold my breath on that just yet. KP have also said it's only been a few months so very early in the game for anything like that. With that said, I think it's time we left them alone to get on with it and see if they really do work out. Maybe they do, maybe they don't but this has to play out between them over time and Harry has the final say.
People want to compare everything to his ex girlfriends. They were girls, Meghan is a mature woman, the relationship is very different. :P
^ Harry is also supposed to be more mature than his other relationships but he is still to learn how to date a suitable woman ... that is why it all ends in tears for him over and over again ... this one won't be any different ...
Chelsy was seen greeting Prince Charles and other royal family members. I think eventually there will be an "official" first public date for Harry and Meghan. Harry is a senior royal so I think if he marries Meghan they will be on call to do royal duties full time.
No this will not end in tears! This relationship seems different and the way the royal house is handling this one show me there is more being done behind the stage!
At first people were saying no way because she was divorce/not blonde/ not aristocrat /not British/socialites
so far the royal house had over looked all that and support her, on top of it they release official statements confirm their relationship.
Not too long ago they would have rejected it and end it from happening yet the royal house support them through these few months, I Applaud them for getting on with the time and accepting it!
So far Emma, maybe Megan will show other to come in the future that it is possible to join the rank of the upper class in sob English society.
I have always say harry should go outside the box I am glad he did weather you like Megan or not this relationship seems real and I don't think harry will take things this far for nothing or for games. I think him and his families/ teams have thought it thru and everyone is ok with it.
I don't get why the fan club still living in the dark of denial?🤔
I always wanted Harry to find a mature woman, sure, didn't want him with a silly girl, immature high society, who only thinks of parties e drinks .I am happy! :)
Best of luck to them both.
She is mature of age, yes, but she's a celebrity who's an opportunist and a manipulative fame-----. Good luck to them because no matter what happens, the institution of the monarchy is the loser.
Looks like she quit her job to be at Harry's beck and call. I guess we're not holding that against her like many did Kate huh?
http://www.morningledger.com/did-meghan-markle-quit-suits-season-6-busy-with-royal-family/13120370/
Kate took it one further. She had no real job to quit, just sporadic shifts at Jigsaw and later was "said" to be working at her parents company.
The show does not revolve around her character. The show if you watch suits is about two males lawyer. One pretending to be a lawyer and each season he try not to get caught. Anyway the boss can easy recast her role since she is a supporting character not the main one. let see if they are truth to this!🤔
The DM is really trying to portray Meghan in a bad light.I hate that they are doing this to her. I don't think the DM went this hard on Kate and she didn't have a legit job for the entire courtship. I think Harry can spot a user a mile away unlike William.Meghan is no Kate and that's a good thing.Sometimes you find love in the most unexpected way and some just go with it.
She's worse than Kate hands down and that's coming from someone who finds Kate unsuitable.
I clicked on yes for all of your posts.
I am all over the place on the subject.
To be fair it only makes sense she quits the Show if she wants to continue with Harry ... no option there ... it's not like she can continue to do her naked sex scenes anymore he will be her full time job like to be fair he would be for anyone who wants a future with him ...
IF she gets engaged to Harry then of course she would have to quit. Right now it looks like they are dating and before she burns her bridges so to speak, she could stay with her job in acting. She would not have to do the sex scenes, just take on another role and continue to act but not on the same show anymore.
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Of course that chat with Piers in a London pub took place in June, as he makes clear in the body of the article. This was before the romance with Harry. I think someone at the Daily Fail looked him up and decided he could write a piece about her!
I read that he is furious about the racism, sexism, and racial undertones about his girlfriend in articles and social media. So, I'm wondering if he knows about this site.
I think some need to cool it and be supportive. This is HIS LIFE and his choice!
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Harry is headed overseas for a week. I heard on the news that he and Meghan were missing one another something awful so she flew to London to be with him before he leaves on his trip.
I was hoping he would spend Thanksgiving with her and her family in the US but he will be away during that time. It would be great for him to experience that American holiday. Oh well....
I wonder if she will go the L.A. Georgia or Tennessee for the holiday?
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I doubt this photo is hers, it looks like a montage, her breasts seem to be smaller. But what's the problem? Kate has also been photographed from top less.
It's amazing how envious people want to bring down this girl. :notamused:
I think it's dodgy. I'm no photographic expert but it looks to me as if someone has got hold of a photo of a nude plus a message from some p**n site somewhere, and imposed Meghan's head on to it, in a rather clumsy way too. This comes from some obscure site as well. Try to bring Meghan Markle down by any means possible, since the racist stuff hasn't worked so far, perhaps.
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Meghan may well be in Toronto finishing off filming for 'Suits' in the Thankgiving Day period. As Canada doesn't celebrate this particular holiday she probably wouldn't get time off.
I reported the post. It needs to be deleted. I did not even look at them. I respect Meghan and Harry and I am pulling for them!
Anyway, Suits is a US drama filmed in Canada so they may give her and the other Americans the time off to celebrate with their families.
It does seem like there is a campaign to get rid of this girl and I don't get why ... I feel sorry for Harry because this can't end well ... she will be history by Christmas ...
Meghan is an American black woman!! They are made of tough stuff. She will be fine! When you're talked about you're thought about so she's good!!😊 She's dating Prince Harry and it's jealousy and evy.
The farce
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These people are such idiots, they think doing these things will hurt Meghan, But don't realize that doing these things are just throwing her ever more in Harry's arms. He must be even more in love :D :D :blowkiss:
Quote from: Cat00 on November 14, 2016, 12:42:11 AM
The farce
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These people are such idiots, they think doing these things will hurt Meghan, But don't realize that doing these things are just throwing her ever more in Harry's arms. He must be even more in love :D :D :blowkiss:
I was thinking the EXACT same thing! So keep this mess going!! You're only helping the cause here!!! This is only going to make Harry and Meghan realize they really want each other and Harry will push her to marry him right away. Watch! There will be an engagement in mid 2017. I am guessing they'll want to marry soon and work on starting a family quickly due to the fact that both are in their 30's.
When she has the title of HRH, I am going to laugh my ass of and get on this forum and rub it in!!!
I did my research. The only photo that was real was the one I posted. I have seen plenty of others that were clearly photoshopped and knew it wasn't her. This one's real. Nobody is trying to break them up because obviously we don't have a say in what Harry chooses, but I will continue to post any new information I find on this couple. If there's a problem with that then tough luck. We all get to have our own opinions. I wouldn't buy any tea towels yet as I don't think this will last past February. Sad to say but this woman actually makes me like Cressida. :puke: If she becomes a problem there's no way they would allow her in with those diva antics. Charles got his Camilla because he was PoW Harry isn't and it's obvious William chose well so they will likely give Harry the same ultimatum they gave Margaret.
I wonder if Harry has ever spent Thanksgiving with an American family? He can't this year but maybe next year with Meghan. I would love to read about his reaction to the dishes.
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What those stupid people who seems to feel so strongly about this woman don't understand is that all their attacks will only make Harry and The Palace that won't want to look like a bunch of racists protect her more and be more inclusive towards her ... well done ... by this rate they might have to deal with Countess Megan ...
For one, Harry doesn't spend his time reading this forum so I doubt he gives a crap about any of our opinions of any girl he's with. And secondly, this isn't a new picture, it actually came out in 2015 but she wasn't very well known then. I'm guessing that this is what the palace was talking about in terms of late night legal battles. Harry's really going to have to fight to get this woman accepted.
^ I wasn't talking about this forum ... I was talking about the press and articles like the Daily Star one that make her look like a victim when she isn't ... Harry and his team will care about those ... after all this is the kind of stuff that made him acknowledge her ... she must secretly loving this ...
I don't understand why the press and media are going so crazy looking into her life coming up with nude pictures, her acting jobs, her family etc. At the end of the day are just two human beings. Princess Sophia of Sweden also was an actress who posed and had quite a colorful image guess what the RF accepted her and now she is settled down with her husband and son and her husband like Harry once his father ascends will be only 4th in line for the throne.
In my opinion Harry should have cared when all that is happening to Megan was happening to Cressida and maybe he would have been married by now and who knows even a father ... it seems he has learned from his past mistakes ... too bad he lost a great girl for him and is left with a divorce who is destroying his public image ... I have never seen so many bad comments about him not even when Vegas happened ... he looks older than his years and stressed too ...
I was not referring to this forum either, but to that idiot people who want to overthrow the girl making montages with her pictures. Harry will want to protect her and defend her more and more, increasing the rapprochement between them. :nod:
Princess Sophia did have a colorful past which did cause a bit of an uproar at first but they were allowed to date for four years to get to know each other and I personally think they're a good match, she doesn't seem to want to use his position to further her own. I would also say that the difference between that royal couple and this one has to do with money. British taxpayers will pay for security for this couple and for any state visits so the idea of not having the public dislike her is very important since the idea of republic is tossed around so often. Charles still has a hard time getting the public on his side for Camilla. Carl Philip is a multi-millionaire himself, and I believe reading somewhere, that he made $58 million in one year a few years ago. I'm guessing his businesses made that money in revenue on not particularly his take home income. He has a better argument in having the last say in who he chooses because no one else supplements his life and the public taxpayer doesn't pay for him and his wife. Harry on the other hand has no personal income and no life skills after leaving the military. The only thing he can rest on is his inheritance or whatever funds his wife brings in. The public will have to pay for his and his wife's engagements and travel and security. So if the public doesn't take a shining to her and she continues to bring the drama, I would say it would be a more difficult fight for Harry wage. That's just my opinion. Will she play the victim, yes! But she brought this on her self and she clearly doesn't know or understand the frenzy and lifestyle she's getting herself into. I personally don't think she'll like it because she is very political in her views and we all know royals cannot publicly push their own political views. She would find the life stifling because as she said she's very opinionated and she will have to be hushed as to not cause any issues as a result of her mouth.
^ I agree before telling people to stay out of his life he needs to actually built a life ... he is a 30 something do nothing I will continue to judge as long as his 90 something grandfather puts him to shame working more than he does ... he also needs to stop dating these unsuitable women and actually be a boyfriend before he points the finger at the press and the public for his romantic failures ... they all dumped him because he is a failure at everything not because of anything else ... he needs to take a good look in the mirror and point that finger back at himself ...
I don't think Harry is a "reject" or necessarily the "dumpee." I think it takes maturity to end a relationship if both parties think a marriage would never work out.
Quote from: Eri on November 14, 2016, 02:14:28 PM
In my opinion Harry should have cared when all that is happening to Megan was happening to Cressida and maybe he would have been married by now and who knows even a father ... it seems he has learned from his past mistakes ... too bad he lost a great girl for him and is left with a divorce who is destroying his public image ... I have never seen so many bad comments about him not even when Vegas happened ... he looks older than his years and stressed too ...
Maybe Cressida and Harry were wrong for each other. I don't think it had anything to do with the media coverage. THey may well have been divorced by now if they plunged into marriage. I do hope that said, Harry and Meghan take their time and don't rush into a marriage.
And the lines as to what is or isn't appropriate continue to blur.
Nothing against this woman but to all the people who named called and abused Cressida ... :hehe: ... Harry will continue to go down hill to the point this Megan person will look suitable for him because the issue is HIM ...
In a relationship issues are with both of them, since it takes two to have a relationship. Cressida and Harry did not work as a couple, so it's better that they did break up. I don't think Meghan should be looked at as someone Harry goes "down hill" with. She's a human being and not "bad" at all. Harry got the worst of it in the media during the breakup with Cressida. There were tons of articles about how she wanted to be an actress and dropped Harry. Which may or may not be the whole story.
I will say this, the more people attack Meghan the angrier Harry will become and he will push back. He will not give up Meghan and he shouldn't! I am sure they have discussed all this happening prior to dating. All these attacks will only cause Harry to fight for her hand his relationship with her.
School Children in Britain congratulated him on falling in love and he couldn't stop smiling.
Well I surely hope not because that sounds rather childish. To push for something because others don't want you to is a recipe for disaster. I think they'll probably choose to continue simply because they like each other enough to.
Quote from: HistoryGirl on November 15, 2016, 01:05:31 AM
Well I surely hope not because that sounds rather childish. To push for something because others don't want you to is a recipe for disaster. I think they'll probably choose to continue simply because they like each other enough to.
What others want??? That is what I am talking about!! What others want has no barring here! None! That is point I am making in my recent post!
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Pushing to do something because someone wants you to do the opposite is childish. It's just as childish as doing something just because others want you to do it. I would hope Meghan and Harry would at their age be mature enough to simply do what they believe is best for them, which is what I think they'll wind up doing.
I have noticed something since this statement was issued. There seems to be a resentment growing among people on some forums who've followed Harry for years that he is doing something for Meghan that he never did for Chelsy or Cressida, ie telling the media and trolls to back off his girlfriend, and I'd like to just give my opinion on why he did so.
Social media really didn't play much of a role in the early years of Harry and Chelsy. In general later on she was liked by the fandom as it was in those days, a few remarks about 'Miss Piggy' aside. There were a few articles in the tabs that seemed to characterise her as a rather vulgar party-girl type, and questioning her father's links with the Mugabe administration in Zimbabwe, but generally her persecution consisted of paps hounding her night and day, both in Britain and South Africa, and in the tabloids regularly reporting on the breakups with Harry.
It was with Cressida that I think Harry really should have stepped up to the plate. It didn't help that when photographers caught them together Harry usually looked as if he was accompanying a young relative to a funeral. I happen to think that this period coincided with the Royal brothers' absolute hatred of Niraj Tanna and his ilk than anything connected with Cress herself at this time, hence the annoyed expressions every time he was caught out with her.
However, I think that relationship ended at least partly because Harry's fans, for some reason I can't understand, absolutely loathed Cressida and that spilled out to comments made in her hearing about her fashion etc.. I don't think it was the Press much at all, articles about her much-married mother notwithstanding.
Harry could have done more, much more I believe, to preserve that relationship by appearing with her in public, with his arm(s) around her, looking lovingly at her etc than he did. That would have shut much trolling and fan comment up. Those that didn't like them as a couple would have drifted off, those remaining would have accepted, however reluctantly, that this was Harry's choice.
I do believe, and I know most online followers of Harry don't and didn't at the time, that he was serious about Cressida and the online comments etc soured their romance. I think, and this is only my opinion of course, that he learned his lesson because that relationship ended. He realised, after the story broke about Meghan and himself that the furore that erupted in both the Press and online media, peppered as it was by subtle and not so subtle racist digs at his girl friend, was going to continue unless he did something.
It's forgotten, I think, in all this debate about Harry having a go at the tabloids, that it wasn't just the Press that was mentioned in that statement. He (via Jason) specifically mentioned on-line trolls in that statement and I don't think that he was just calling out the pea brains on the DM comment lines.
I think Harry was speaking to those on social media who had given Cress such a hard time and were doing the same with this new girl, calling her out for everything under the sun. Harry felt he had to do something, I think, or this new relationship would go the way of the others.
I am so sorry for the length of this diatribe, but I felt I had to get this off my chest once and for all. Finally, I'd just like to say that in a friendly chat to a board helper on RD she remarked that the fury expressed in the past ten days was one of the reasons she herself rarely trespassed on the BRF threads. She said she had for years believed that when Harry looked as if he might marry then all hell would break loose, and we've seen it in the past weeks haven't we, all over social media.
I think I understand what Yale meant. The more the press and people pursue it, the more they will be together, not because of childishness, But because it will bring them closer. He will want to protect and defend her more and more, and the affection will increase on both sides.
That's a very interesting perspective. It makes sense. It's a process of growth I suppose. We learn from our mistakes.
Actually this Forum is one of the few where I do not see hate. The Forums Royal Dish and Royal gossip, are impossible to participate. People are aggressive, offend Meghan, it seems she's the worst person in the world :wacko:
Regarding Harry and Cressida, I think Harry did not defend her because he was not really in love, I'm sorry the fans of the couple, but I never found him excited about her, most of the time they showed up together, he seemed bored . Already Chelsy, I think the opposite, he really liked her, but I think not how he like Meghan.
Quote from: Cat00 on November 15, 2016, 02:31:03 AM
I think I understand what Yale meant. The more the press and people pursue it, the more they will be together, not because of childishness, But because it will bring them closer. He will want to protect and defend her more and more, and the affection will increase on both sides.
That clarification doesn't really change my opinion on that being a childish and ill-advised reason to be with someone because it still takes into account the opinions of others in a place where only two people's opinions truly matter.
Maybe it's just me, but I would want someone who wants to be with me because they love me as a person not because they felt an obligation to defend me.
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Quote from: Cat00 on November 15, 2016, 02:31:03 AM
I think I understand what Yale meant. The more the press and people pursue it, the more they will be together, not because of childishness, But because it will bring them closer. He will want to protect and defend her more and more, and the affection will increase on both sides.
That clarification doesn't really change my opinion on that being a childish and ill-advised reason to be with someone because it still takes into account the opinions of others in a place where only two people's opinions truly matter.
Maybe it's just me, but I would want someone who wants to be with me because they love me as a person not because they felt an obligation to defend me.
Well, let me make a clarification of mine own. You and everyone else NEED TO MIND YOUR BUSINESS!!
Harry is going to do what he wants, and he should!!!
Hey, we are all expressing an opinion here, not saying that Harry should do what we or anyone else says. This forum is civilised as is one other. I've been under fire for saying, using mild language, that it is Harry's choice when he dates someone, and have come under intense fire on Twitter and on two other forums for doing so for the past week. :P So I think keeping it civil here please would help all of us. I've just put my armour away! :D :consoling1:
^ I have noticed no one here really feels strongly about Megan one way or the other but with Cressida ... oh boy ... I will never get why she brought the worse in some people and that is why it wasn't civil because it was absurd and something I am still trying to understand ... with Megan we can have a civil conversation because even people who aren't crazy about this relationship are like whatever ... about Cressida and I promise this is the last time I bring her up because the best thing that happened to her is her relationship with Harry ending ... Harry is an idiot who lost a great chance to have a Sophie type of Countess on his arm and now he is going through the motions in all areas of his life ... his loos for not understanding what he had and acting so horribly with her ...
I agree that Harry is the stubborn type that will push back if pressed about something. But that will only work so far. The biggest factor is how the couple gets along and if the relationship itself is viable. We're giving the press and public far too much credit about what goes on in this relationship. They have hardly been together physically long enough to really be in serious relationship. I get it that we're in a new age of technology but being connected via social media doesn't really count as a true relationship to me, maybe I'm old fashioned. But they have rarely spent extended periods of time together. This past week she was only in London for two days, time enough for the essentials. I don't see how this relationship will last if she's all over the world, he as well, most of the time. When do they really get to know each other?
I don't know when filming of 'Suits' finishes for the year, but it's possible I suppose that Meghan may come over to England in December after the tour and stay for a few weeks. I agree that sort of distance relationship isn't viable. Harry and Chelsy maintained that 'hop on a plane, holiday time' kind of romance for a few years while she was living in South Africa and he in Britain but it wasn't very satisfactory then when they were in their early twenties and it certainly wouldn't be when Two people are in their thirties and thinking of marriage and settling down. IF they are serious about each other (and it's still unknown whether they are at this early stage) then I can't see any way for them to do it other than the way Crown Prince Frederik and Mary Donaldson did it.
Mary went to live in Demark years before she and Frederil got engaged, quietly got a flat and a job in Copenhagen and began learning the Danish language and Danish customs. I don't quite know how that would work for a high profile actress, unless she got plenty of acting roles in the UK (and London ain't Copenhagen, Meghan would have paps and tab reporters camped on her doorstep day and night!) She could maintain her blog, but still I can see lots of probs.
Also Mary and Fred could afford to take it quite slowly. Harry has said for years he wants children and Meghan's already thirty five. Would a year say, living a very discreet life in London, learning what she could about Britain, the British way of life, the BRF protocol, etc etc, be acceptable to Meghan? She seems a very media savvy and outspoken person to say the least. Yet she can't be a TV actress one month and be a working in the BRF Duchess the next. It's a conundrum!
That's why I think they'll get married soon. Maybe next year. The two are already at a mature age, there's no reason to wait
^ That is not a good reason and I hope Harry has learned from his father not to be pressured into marriage just because he is at a certain age ...that would end in disaster ... and Harry's family history is a prove of that ... not that I think he will marry this one ... like NO WAY ...
Quote from: Cat00 on November 15, 2016, 02:42:17 AM
Actually this Forum is one of the few where I do not see hate. The Forums Royal Dish and Royal gossip, are impossible to participate. People are aggressive, offend Meghan, it seems she's the worst person in the world :wacko:
Regarding Harry and Cressida, I think Harry did not defend her because he was not really in love, I'm sorry the fans of the couple, but I never found him excited about her, most of the time they showed up together, he seemed bored . Already Chelsy, I think the opposite, he really liked her, but I think not how he like Meghan.
I agree. I did not see any chemistry between them. He looked like he wanted to be someplace else when he was with her as I saw it.
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Quote from: Eri on November 15, 2016, 09:28:20 AM
^ I have noticed no one here really feels strongly about Megan one way or the other but with Cressida ... oh boy ... I will never get why she brought the worse in some people and that is why it wasn't civil because it was absurd and something I am still trying to understand ... with Megan we can have a civil conversation because even people who aren't crazy about this relationship are like whatever ... about Cressida and I promise this is the last time I bring her up because the best thing that happened to her is her relationship with Harry ending ... Harry is an idiot who lost a great chance to have a Sophie type of Countess on his arm and now he is going through the motions in all areas of his life ... his loos for not understanding what he had and acting so horribly with her ...
I think the best thing to happen to Harry and Cressida was their realizing their relationship would never work. I don't see Cressida as anything like Sophie and maybe a Sophie-type is not in the cards for Harry in any case. Because he broke up with Cressida does not mean he won't marry or see anyone else. Life happens.
Quote from: Eri on November 15, 2016, 04:15:16 PM
^ That is not a good reason and I hope Harry has learned from his father not to be pressured into marriage just because he is at a certain age ...that would end in disaster ... and Harry's family history is a prove of that ... not that I think he will marry this one ... like NO WAY ...
What a comparison! :wacko:
Charles didn't love Diana, it was an arranged marriage. It's not a matter of rushing, more if the two love each other and have a ripe old age, why wait? Especially because they live in different countries.
Actually it was not an arranged marriage. No contracts were drawn up and the couple were not obligated to be bound for life when they started dating. One or both could have ended the relationship. Charles courted Diana the old fashioned way, asking her on dates, taking her to meet his parents, and introducing her to his close friends (the unfortunate part was that Camilla was a "friend"). Charles was already turned down by two other ladies right before he courted Diana. I think he wanted to marry and have heirs (back then 32 was considered "old" for men to get married). Besides which even if it were an "arranged" marriage it did not make it "OK" for Charles to cheat. Maybe for Charles a real arranged marriage would have worked out if the bride had all the expectations (including Camilla) spelled out ahead of time. Harry I think will be permitted to marry MEghan.
I also think Cressida and Sophie are totally different. Aside from the fact that there was no chemistry between them, Cressida was very young and seemed insecure to withstand the pressures of royalty, has to be a strong ,safe, lived, to endure
The Daily Mail is reporting that Kate has met Meghan. She likes her and she thinks that she might be keeper for Harry.--- Some nice and positive like this is what we should be discussing in regard to this.
I heard that the two may be going on a trip together after he returns from his Caribbean tour?
The marriage between Charles and Diana might not be arranged, but he always loved Camilla, so much that she had been his mistress since the first day of their marriage. I doubt that there was love on his part.
This news about Kate approving the novel, I do not believe. I think the press is inventing a lot to get attention.
I don't think he "always" loved her, he loved himself. A man in love would have wanted to marry her, not choose another woman to marry and have his children. And there were other women in Charles' life. Even though Camilla enjoyed the influence and power, Charles making her a mistress IMO was not showing "love" for her. Sheer selfishness more like it IMO. I think Charles is too egocentric to commit fully to anybody. Camilla was and is manipulative. Hopefully, Harry makes a love match and is totally committed to his bride to be,whether or not it's Meghan. I think mistress keeping shows disrespect for the wife and I hope William and Harry don't have the mess Charles made for himself.
Oh boy I didn't mean for this to be a topic about things that happened 29/30 years ago :happycry: ... I just meant that I really hope Harry doesn't rush into anything with a woman he is still to be seen in public with and I am still confused about how much time they have actually spend together given that he was in Africa this Summer and she was hardly in the UK according to her Instagram ... that is all no need to rehash and say the same old things over and over again about something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand anyways ...
Is it fair that Harry and Meghan's relationship is compared to Harry and Cressida's relationship? Meghan and Cressida are two different ladies.
Quote from: Eri on November 15, 2016, 10:30:21 PM
Oh boy I didn't mean for this to be a topic about things that happened 29/30 years ago :happycry: ... I just meant that I really hope Harry doesn't rush into anything with a woman he is still to be seen in public with and I am still confused about how much time they have actually spend together given that he was in Africa this Summer and she was hardly in the UK according to her Instagram ... that is all no need to rehash and say the same old things over and over again about something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand anyways ...
Harry seems reluctant to go public. The implication of that does not necessarily mean they are "through."What happened to his parents DOES make a difference and the boys were raised by these two parents, who are very relevant to their outlook on life IMO. For instance both have referenced their parents publicly. Charles himself found his parents very relevant to his own life and outlook, and noted this to his biographer.
And yes indeed Cressida and Meghan are two very different people.
It might not be fair to compare the two women, Cressida and Meghan, but all anyone has to go on really are Harry two other known longterm relationships and how they worked out. With Chelsy she and Harry were very young and much of their romance was when they holidayed together. However Chelsy did, as she's said come under the media spotlight.
With Cressida it was different. We never saw any affection in public, yet we know it lasted for about two years with Harry, so there must have been a romance going on very much in private. It was known pretty well from the beginning. Cress was English, like most BRF girlfriends, discreet, and yet in spite of that received huge hatred from social media. That's something she shares with Meghan.
The Meghan relationship has barely started yet when the story broke that they were together the furore was so intense that really it's a good job that Meghan does live in the US, otherwise she just wouldn't have been able to move out of her home.
The real comparison between these two will come if this romance ends. Cress didn't weather the storm and cracked under it. However she still has to live in British society and so, in spite of Ingrid Seward's remarks about the romance, her lips have been sealed. If Meghan eventually does the same and cracks if she comes to live in England, we will know then that even if Harry chose someone with a mixture of Mother Theresa, Venus de Milo and Diana herself in the future he is still likely to remain alone because no human being could stand that relentless pressure, no matter how publicity hardened they are.
Quote from: sandy on November 15, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
I don't think he "always" loved her, he loved himself. A man in love would have wanted to marry her, not choose another woman to marry and have his children. And there were other women in Charles' life. Even though Camilla enjoyed the influence and power, Charles making her a mistress IMO was not showing "love" for her. Sheer selfishness more like it IMO. I think Charles is too egocentric to commit fully to anybody. Camilla was and is manipulative. Hopefully, Harry makes a love match and is totally committed to his bride to be,whether or not it's Meghan. I think mistress keeping shows disrespect for the wife and I hope William and Harry don't have the mess Charles made for himself.
As far as I know, he did not marry Camilla because the queen did not allow it, I read a lot about what happened and for me Charles never loved Diana, it's my opinion and I'm not going to stay here arguing about Charles's life because I don't care :blink:
Enough Enough children! Megan is not Cressida, Kate or Diana!
This post was suppose to be about Megan and harry not about Charles,Camilla, Kate,Cressida, chelsy, Diana!
Stop rehashing the past and move on! Harry and Megan will step out on their own time. Weather on vacation, ski trip or hiking in Canada.
It's up to them I am glad people magazine did not release their first photo instead give them space unlike daily fail and their troll that keep making up B.S story and fake nake photos so they can sell papers, instead of take a step back and wait until they are both ready, it's not like Megan and Harry are going to run away to other Planet to live.
when or If things get to next level they will be 24/7 photo of everything they do non stop like William and kate it is inevitable.
P.s All the new photo of Harry offical visit beside the veteran memorial event he seems so happy, he got the look of a man that finally found happiness no wonder the school kids congrats him, even the recent video from today he seems so happy waving and joking around with everyone . why can his fan be happy instead they are all working hard over time trying to take down the woman that is the reason for his happiness. I just don't get it why people are this miserable to see a man happy!😤
Yes, good221, All over social media, other forums, Twitter, tumblrs etc. this woman Meghan is the worst of the worst! Cress was a mess, according to online posters, this woman is a PR driven monster who's got her hooks into Harry because she wants the publicity. If this romance ends and there's a new girlfriend it will be 'Now what can we criticise first, what dirt can we discuss, what's wrong with her in our opinion, even though we are judging photos of her and she's never talked about Harry.'
And it will be the same with the one after that and the one after that one, until in the end he'll be alone because no woman will be able to stand the hate.
I don't think Harry was serious about Cressida,serious enough to commit to her that is. Time will tell how serious he really is about Meghan. In any event it's up to the couple. If Harry wants to marry Meghan, I doubt the Queen would "forbid" him to do so. Kate does get a lot of criticism, but this is what she waited ten years for.
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Quote from: Cat00 on November 16, 2016, 12:19:04 AM
Quote from: sandy on November 15, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
I don't think he "always" loved her, he loved himself. A man in love would have wanted to marry her, not choose another woman to marry and have his children. And there were other women in Charles' life. Even though Camilla enjoyed the influence and power, Charles making her a mistress IMO was not showing "love" for her. Sheer selfishness more like it IMO. I think Charles is too egocentric to commit fully to anybody. Camilla was and is manipulative. Hopefully, Harry makes a love match and is totally committed to his bride to be,whether or not it's Meghan. I think mistress keeping shows disrespect for the wife and I hope William and Harry don't have the mess Charles made for himself.
As far as I know, he did not marry Camilla because the queen did not allow it, I read a lot about what happened and for me Charles never loved Diana, it's my opinion and I'm not going to stay here arguing about Charles's life because I don't care :blink:
It makes Charles look bad because he married someone he did not really love and in effect used her to get heirs. But Charles never said he was forbidden to marry Camilla Shand, and he gave his first hand account in his biography. I think either Charles is wishy washy or egocentric, or perhaps a combination of the two. I also think that William settled for Kate and she put up with his cooling off periods and a humiliating break up to get the ring. I think he did worse to Kate than the media did. And his friends let it be known they looked down on the Middletons.
Meghan may be the type that would just walk away if Harry ever publicly humiliated her or (like William did after he let Kate know he was breaking up with her shouted "I'm free" and celebrated.) I think she's a lot more independent as well.
Quote from: good221 on November 16, 2016, 01:58:53 AM
Enough Enough children! Megan is not Cressida, Kate or Diana!
This post was suppose to be about Megan and harry not about Charles,Camilla, Kate,Cressida, chelsy, Diana!
Stop rehashing the past and move on! Harry and Megan will step out on their own time. Weather on vacation, ski trip or hiking in Canada.
It's up to them I am glad people magazine did not release their first photo instead give them space unlike daily fail and their troll that keep making up B.S story and fake nake photos so they can sell papers, instead of take a step back and wait until they are both ready, it's not like Megan and Harry are going to run away to other Planet to live.
when or If things get to next level they will be 24/7 photo of everything they do non stop like William and kate it is inevitable.
P.s All the new photo of Harry offical visit beside the veteran memorial event he seems so happy, he got the look of a man that finally found happiness no wonder the school kids congrats him, even the recent video from today he seems so happy waving and joking around with everyone . why can his fan be happy instead they are all working hard over time trying to take down the woman that is the reason for his happiness. I just don't get it why people are this miserable to see a man happy!😤
Why couldn't YOU give Harry and Cressida a chance to be happy? Why did YOU have to put her down and abuse and name call her until they broke up and even then you laughed and pointed the finger at her? Hypocrisy at it's finest ... by the way ... People is no better than the Daily Fail if they had a picture they would have published it ... there is no proof there is a picture ... let's face it this one is just another Mollie King someone he uses for we all know what and will never be seen in public with ... she is his transition girl until he finds another blonde Aristo/cousin of his to be serious about ...
@Eri If Harry was happy with Cressida he would have marry her and flight for her like Megan.
He did not make anything offical or Release a statement as he did with Megan neither did he do the same with molly!
The whole earth does not revolve around Cressida maybe to you it is because you can never let go it seems and by the way harry was never this happy with your(World) Cressida!
I seriously don't get why you cannot accept that and STOP living in denial, unlike Megan Cressida was love by the media especially daily fail and lots of her fans like you campaign for the ring but fail desperately because if Harry had feel the same he would have march thru with Cressida but he did not that hurt all you Cressida fan to the core and now he finally found love and happiness it kill all Cressida fan club heart that they all ""will never wave their hat". Once again you can keep obsessing and going extra about Cressida in a post that is not about her and I keep posting the truth which is 10,0000 in line to the throne (HARRY) is inlove and happy with a woman that HE confirm to the world is his girlfriend you see the difference!
^ We have a Harry friend here (insert roll eye here) ... she knows how he feels and who he loves ... never mind he is still to be seen with his bed warmer who he just entertained for the weekend and then she left Town ... yeah she is his girlfriend alright ... more like his bed warmer ... come back to me when he is seen with her in an official capacity like he was seen with Cressida ...
Quote from: good221 on November 16, 2016, 12:44:39 PM
@Eri If Harry was happy with Cressida he would have marry her and flight for her like Megan.
He did not make anything offical or Release a statement as he did with Megan neither did he do the same with molly!
The whole earth does not revolve around Cressida maybe to you it is because you can never let go it seems and by the way harry was never this happy with your(World) Cressida!
I seriously don't get why you cannot accept that and STOP living in denial, unlike Megan Cressida was love by the media especially daily fail and lots of her fans like you campaign for the ring but fail desperately because if Harry had feel the same he would have march thru with Cressida but he did not that hurt all you Cressida fan to the core and now he finally found love and happiness it kill all Cressida fan club heart that they all ""will never wave their hat". Once again you can keep obsessing and going extra about Cressida in a post that is not about her and I keep posting the truth which is 10,0000 in line to the throne (HARRY) is inlove and happy with a woman that HE confirm to the world is his girlfriend you see the difference!
I don't understand that either. Who likes Cressida, must cheer to find someone who really loves her . As continue to talk about Harry and Cressida and reminisce about the past, see this picture, Harry goes ahead, leaving her behind, this is not the behavior of a man in love.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/24/article-2347677-1A7A46DA000005DC-405_634x632.jpg
Quote from: Eri on November 16, 2016, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: good221 on November 16, 2016, 01:58:53 AM
Enough Enough children! Megan is not Cressida, Kate or Diana!
This post was suppose to be about Megan and harry not about Charles,Camilla, Kate,Cressida, chelsy, Diana!
Stop rehashing the past and move on! Harry and Megan will step out on their own time. Weather on vacation, ski trip or hiking in Canada.
It's up to them I am glad people magazine did not release their first photo instead give them space unlike daily fail and their troll that keep making up B.S story and fake nake photos so they can sell papers, instead of take a step back and wait until they are both ready, it's not like Megan and Harry are going to run away to other Planet to live.
when or If things get to next level they will be 24/7 photo of everything they do non stop like William and kate it is inevitable.
P.s All the new photo of Harry offical visit beside the veteran memorial event he seems so happy, he got the look of a man that finally found happiness no wonder the school kids congrats him, even the recent video from today he seems so happy waving and joking around with everyone . why can his fan be happy instead they are all working hard over time trying to take down the woman that is the reason for his happiness. I just don't get it why people are this miserable to see a man happy!😤
Why couldn't YOU give Harry and Cressida a chance to be happy? Why did YOU have to put her down and abuse and name call her until they broke up and even then you laughed and pointed the finger at her? Hypocrisy at it's finest ... by the way ... People is no better than the Daily Fail if they had a picture they would have published it ... there is no proof there is a picture ... let's face it this one is just another Mollie King someone he uses for we all know what and will never be seen in public with ... she is his transition girl until he finds another blonde Aristo/cousin of his to be serious about ...
I honestly doubt Harry and/or Cressida based their relationship on what is said on discussion boards.
The Evening Standard in Britain is reporting that Harry is prepared to pay for an ex RPO to guard Meghan while she's in Britain.
Prince Harry: I'll pay for guard to protect Meghan Markle | London Evening Standard (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-to-hire-private-guard-to-protect-meghan-markle-a3396801.html)
I honestly doubt Harry and/or Cressida based their relationship on what is said on discussion boards.I agree
@sandy that they don't but considering the "discussions" that I've read at two sites known for their snark, you sometimes get the impression that those posters would want Harry to read their views and act on them. :D
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Quote from: Curryong on November 16, 2016, 02:55:49 PM
The Evening Standard in Britain is reporting that Harry is prepared to pay for an ex RPO to guard Meghan while she's in Britain.
Prince Harry: I'll pay for guard to protect Meghan Markle | London Evening Standard (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-to-hire-private-guard-to-protect-meghan-markle-a3396801.html)
If this report turns out to be true, then this relationship is very serious IMHO.
It's funny that some people refuse to believe that the relationship between Harry and Meghan is serious. Only he has exposed himself to the whole world to defend her, already proves it.
I don't remember Harry having taken on a romance with Mollie King . :lol: :lol:
Again harry keep proving you
@Eri and the media wrong about how much he cares about Megan.
Now he want to take his OWN money to protect his LOVE he has NEVER done that with any one not even Cressida, Chelsy, Florence, Molly Etc...
if you want the official photo to get you to stop living in denial trust me you will get it after harry trip, if the rumor of them going away for the holiday vacation is true you will get thousands photos to shut people up!
Anyway I am happy to see this side of harry protecting the woman he love and showing it with words instead of ingore it and I am so happy for him and Meghan.
It's not a rumor. Harry returns on December 4th and when he does he is taking Meghan on a week long romantic trip.
Also, Meghan although sweet, that protection is unnecessary. Meghan is relaxed. It's Harry that is worried sick. It's cute. I think!
Could he surprise Meghan with a ring? (Smile)
I don't believe what rags say as they have come with 1000 versions on whenever she has met his family or whenever he was in Canada ... I will believe he is serious with her when he is actually seen in public with her ... and by that I don't mean pap pictures but how in a public capacity like he went out with Cressida (like it or not) until then ... she is juts a bed warmer who he didn't invite to stay over beyond the weekend ...
Really a bed warmer he issued a firm statement that he has NEVER done before and he is paying for protection, that is not enough until they are seen in public or red carpet because that will prove what love is?
honestly I feel sad for this person that keep living in denial and I am starting to question their state of mental mind
if something like this that is simple/clear to me and everyone but not to this person! It is really sad!
Anyway looking forward to harry trip hopefully it will be success like others.
^ Keep your personal attacks to yourself as you don't know me ... I have my opinion you have yours no need to question someone's mental health because they don't agree with you ... that is absurd ... I will wait for Harry to prove he is not ashamed of her and actually be seen with her ... until then she is a bed warmer ... deal with it ... like I will deal with it if Harry proves me wrong ... by the way ... I am not alone in being crazy/delusional ... just read the comments online EVERYWHERE from Royal Dish to The Daily Fail ... YOU really need to deal with A DIFFERENT opinion like an adult ...
Quote from: good221 on November 17, 2016, 01:49:49 PM
Really a bed warmer he issued a firm statement that he has NEVER done before and he is paying for protection, that is not enough until they are seen in public or red carpet because that will prove what love is?
honestly I feel sad for this person that keep living in denial and I am starting to question their state of mental mind
if something like this that is simple/clear to me and everyone but not to this person! It is really sad!
Anyway looking forward to harry trip hopefully it will be success like others.
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
HsHcharlene..... I absolutely agree with your posts...I have always tried to back-read to find out HOW this romance came to light and public. It was NOT Prince Harry's people who put out the story and IMO, even PH was taken aback when their romance became public. I could be wrong of course, but suddenly her name was out there with many photos of her.. IMO, this young lady is on a mission... Not so much about her ethnic roots , but more about grasping for the brass ring... She knows exactly what she is doing. She has been coupled with other society names... I hope , if we are correct you and I, that Prince Harry catches on quickly and does not get hurt.
Some of you are truly being ridiculous. Seriously! You ask as if you have some sort of weird vested interest in who Harry decides to date or marry. It's getting obsessive. Harry does not know me or any of you. It was reported on CBS that Harry plans to use his won money to pay for Meghan's safety. Are some you really that jealous and envious of this girl?
Do you really think Harry is going to stop dating this girl or not marry because you don't like her etc? Come on now!!
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Some of you are truly being ridiculous. Seriously! You act as if you have some sort of weird vested interest in who Harry decides to date or marry. It's getting obsessive. Harry does not know me or any of you. Whether you choose to believe it or not, it makes no difference. The relationship is real and very serious! It was reported on CBS that Harry plans to use his own money to pay for Meghan's safety. Are some you really that jealous and envious of this girl?
Do you really think Harry is going to stop dating this girl or not marry because you don't like her etc? Come on now!!
^ We are just expressing our opinion :shrug: ... not expecting a total stranger to act like I want him to act ... he will obviously do whatever he wants to and I will be here expressing my opinion ... what I noticed about this woman is that she echos a lot of what happened when Miranda Kerr first cached Orlando Bloom's eye she came in with a baggage of how she had been prior to being famous and people who she had been a "mean girl" to came poring online with a mission to exposing her ... the same is happening to Megan who not only has her own sister bad mouthing her but her father failing for bankruptcy and rumor she cheated on her husband and that is why her very short lived marriage ended ... she sure has people who know her online warning us about her just like it happened with Miranda ... with Miranda I think a lot of it came true ...
Is it possible that Meghan will spend the Christmas holiday with Prince Harry at Sandringham?
Quote from: Curryong on November 16, 2016, 03:04:00 AM
And it will be the same with the one after that and the one after that one, until in the end he'll be alone because no woman will be able to stand the hate.
Do you really think he'll end up alone? For some reason I feel like he will find someone. It may not be the heady love he's looking for, but sometimes I wonder about the emotional/physical availability of the women he dates. However, that's entirely a guess and almost not even worth discussing.
ERI:
Don't hold your breath! Even if Harry and Meghan break up, he'll never come back with boring and dull Cressida, only in his daydreams ... :P :hehe: :thumbsdown: :lol:
I thought Cressida and her old ex Harry Wentworth-Stanley have been dating for a few months now and are serious about each other. I think that ship has sailed, not that I think Prince H is crying in his soup about it!
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Quote from: HistoryGirl on November 17, 2016, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: Curryong on November 16, 2016, 03:04:00 AM
And it will be the same with the one after that and the one after that one, until in the end he'll be alone because no woman will be able to stand the hate.
Do you really think he'll end up alone? For some reason I feel like he will find someone. It may not be the heady love he's looking for, but sometimes I wonder about the emotional/physical availability of the women he dates. However, that's entirely a guess and almost not even worth discussing.
I was just taken aback by the general negativity all over social media for a week when I wrote that. I expect Harry will find someone eventually, but considering what a couple of his girlfriends have gone through, my goodness she'll have to have a thick skin! Someone who never glances at certain Royal forums and who has never tweets and no interest in public IGs, perhaps!
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on November 17, 2016, 11:01:06 PM
Is it possible that Meghan will spend the Christmas holiday with Prince Harry at Sandringham?
No I do not think that she would be there. AFAIK the newcomers only join the family when they're married.
I think Meghan will spend Christmas with her mum in LA. However, I can see her spending some time in December with Harry after he gets back from the tour. Harry likes warmth and they might go somewhere exotic to have a break.
Quote from: Cat00 on November 18, 2016, 12:16:56 AM
ERI:
Don't hold your breath! Even if Harry and Meghan break up, he'll never come back with boring and dull Cressida, only in his daydreams ... :P :hehe: :thumbsdown: :lol:
I am pretty sure Harry does daydream about having been a better boyfriend with upper class, discrete / loyal , very young and pretty Cressida ... too bad he has to do with a very rough looking 35 years old divorce with several skeletons inside her closet ...
Quote from: Eri on November 18, 2016, 11:00:28 AM
Quote from: Cat00 on November 18, 2016, 12:16:56 AM
ERI:
Don't hold your breath! Even if Harry and Meghan break up, he'll never come back with boring and dull Cressida, only in his daydreams ... :P :hehe: :thumbsdown: :lol:
I am pretty sure Harry does daydream about having been a better boyfriend with upper class, discrete / loyal , very young and pretty Cressida ... too bad he has to do with a very rough lookinvery rough looking 35 years old divorce with several skeletons inside her closet 35 years old divorce with several skeletons inside her closet ...
Upperclass thanks for the :laugh10: :laugh10: to be upperclass you have to roll with MONEY! The Bonas have non! this is another reason I like megan she work hard for her money!
P.S how come a very rough looking 35 years old divorce with several skeletons inside her closet can still land her prince and also the prince acknowledge and he flight for her honor to the world but a then 23 years old cressida that is connected dump her well off boyfriend to be with prince harry NEVER get statement from the palace or protection from harry, all she got was him running head from her or sneaking from places but it did not stop her form showing up ready at his door and still got dump and crying on the street looking like a mess!
Any way cressida seems to move on but not her denial #1 fan that refuse to leave the sand box of obsession and denial so it best to leave the poor child in the box and move on with the TOPIC about megan and harry... :orchid:
Quote from: Eri on November 18, 2016, 11:00:28 AM
Quote from: Cat00 on November 18, 2016, 12:16:56 AM
ERI:
Don't hold your breath! Even if Harry and Meghan break up, he'll never come back with boring and dull Cressida, only in his daydreams ... :P :hehe: :thumbsdown: :lol:
I am pretty sure Harry does daydream about having been a better boyfriend with upper class, discrete / loyal , very young and pretty Cressida ... too bad he has to do with a very rough looking 35 years old divorce with several skeletons inside her closet ...
At least Meghan is a mature woman, an actress who is acting, activist, independent, is not a girl boring girl, dull, childish, futile, failed actress :lol:
Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle finally addresses drama with inspirational tweet
Actress Meghan Markle is taking the high road after being slammed by the public for dating Prince Harry.
The 34-year-old "Suits" star took to Twitter on Friday to thank those who have supported her as she was flooded with racist and sexist comments once her relationship with the prince went public.
"Sending extra love to Emily, Sol, Domi, Hannah, Sih, Doris, Jessy Scarlett and all of you who have been so supportive. I've missed you guys <3" she wrote, along with a Mahatma Gandhi quote that read, "Be the change you wish to see in the world."
Once rumors started circulating that Markle and Harry were dating, the actress was attacked on social media for being half-black and stalked by photographers to the point where police were called.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/prince-harry-girlfriend-meghan-markle-finally-addresses-drama-article-1.2879126 (ftp://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/prince-harry-girlfriend-meghan-markle-finally-addresses-drama-article-1.2879126)
I don't know why Meghan is being attacked on social media just because she is half black so what she is a human being not some alien from outer space and stalking by photogs's unacceptable would these same people like being treated like that?. Just let them date and take their relationship where ever it goes. The media can go nuts after an engagement is announced but this is just too premature. I suppose nothing was learned from Diana as far as the media goes how sad.
Quote from: Eri on November 18, 2016, 11:00:28 AM
Quote from: Cat00 on November 18, 2016, 12:16:56 AM
ERI:
Don't hold your breath! Even if Harry and Meghan break up, he'll never come back with boring and dull Cressida, only in his daydreams ... :P :hehe: :thumbsdown: :lol:
I am pretty sure Harry does daydream about having been a better boyfriend with upper class, discrete / loyal , very young and pretty Cressida ... too bad he has to do with a very rough looking 35 years old divorce with several skeletons inside her closet ...
Harry and Cressida did not mesh as a couple and decided to break up. Maybe Cressida thinks about being a better girlfriend. In any case it's water under the bridge, they split up and that's that. I don't see anything "rough" looking about Meghan.
I think the problem is for some is that she is an half black American woman.
On this forum Meghan, has been called an opportunist? Now, my question is to that person, how do you know that?
^ The REAL issue is she is back on Instagram seeking attention while moronic Harry whined about the attentions she has been getting ... now we know why Cressida and Chelsy were laughing so hard at that Event they attended together this Summer ... Harry has managed to find someone who makes them look SPECTACULAR ... Kate must be pretty happy too ...
I don't know why Meghan should stop posting on the instagran. She is an acting actress, has fans and thousands of followers and she is not posting anything about Harry or exposing private life. This is an excuse to attack her.
Every time Harry appeared next to Cressida, he was bored, fed up with being at her side :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Eri on November 19, 2016, 04:06:30 PM
^ The REAL issue is she is back on Instagram seeking attention while moronic Harry whined about the attentions she has been getting ... now we know why Cressida and Chelsy were laughing so hard at that Event they attended together this Summer ... Harry has managed to find someone who makes them look SPECTACULAR ... Kate must be pretty happy too ...
Not quite the real issue is not her being on Instagram it is the intrusion of the media looking into their relationship. Meghan as a working actress and charity worker was posting on Instagram before meeting Harry she makes her living this way and give back as well. Harry is not financially supporting her as they are not engaged nor married so give it up Eri the woman needs to work to survive.
Quote from: Cat00 on November 19, 2016, 05:35:59 PM
I don't know why Meghan should stop posting on the instagran. She is an acting actress, has fans and thousands of followers and she is not posting anything about Harry or exposing private life. This is an excuse to attack her.
Every time Harry appeared next to Cressida, he was bored, fed up with being at her side :lol: :lol:
Of course everybody will do whatever they want but her posting on Instagram makes him look stupid and open to attacks if he will dare to whine about the attentions she gets ever again ... she should stop posting on Instagram because last time I checked it was a mortal sin punishable by death having an Instagram account :thumbsdown: ... the hypocrisy is mind blowing ...
Meghan is a working actress and has had a career before dating Harry. I see no problem with her Instagram account
Quote from: Cat00 on November 19, 2016, 05:35:59 PM
I don't know why Meghan should stop posting on the instagran. She is an acting actress, has fans and thousands of followers and she is not posting anything about Harry or exposing private life. This is an excuse to attack her.
Every time Harry appeared next to Cressida, he was bored, fed up with being at her side :lol: :lol:
I would not even give that thought. I agree 100! And she has not mentioned her boyfriend once! This is another way for Eri and other to attack Meghan and use something against her.
Meghan is an actress and social media is what is in now.
I think Meghan is only posting old stuff on her IG and Twitter Page now. There have been several old Tweets put up.
She probably didn't expect anything but this firestorm to erupt that is still going!
Quote from: sandy on November 19, 2016, 10:21:27 PM
Meghan is a working actress and has had a career before dating Harry. I see no problem with her Instagram account
She had no carer before Harry as no one knew she existed ... you should have seen no issue with all people having an Instagram account ... again the hypocrisy is mind blowing ...
^ The same could be said of Cressida she had no career and no one knew she existed either. What exactly is your point Eri?
I've been away from the forum for a while except to check some threads sporadically. As for this new relationship, I'll just sit back and wait to see what happens. Like many, I was mildly surprised when Harry stepped up to issue a statement. Regardless of which side tipped off the press (although, I do think it was Meghan's people. I mean there are so many similar bracelets...who helped to connect the dots?), Harry stepped up for his girlfriend. Either he has learnt from his past mistakes or he has truly fallen for Meghan. I honestly do believe if it had been any other girl, they would have been shown the door pretty quickly.
One of the main reasons I immediately liked her is that, she is already a working woman. Not a well known established actress but, a working actress who can stand on her own two feet, educated, an activist and tries her hand in launching/collaborating a business. She got her roles in movies and tv shows through normal and hard working route before landing a big break in Suits. All achieved before hooking up with Harry.
On the other hand, I'm still dubious about how this all came public. We know it's been for a few months. They've been having transatlantic relationship. Speaking from my past experience, long distance relationships do not work unless one party makes majority of the sacrifices. And I'm afraid, it's going to have to be Meghan. If this is going somewhere, will she give up everything she has worked hard for for a possible ring and a title? Can Harry make some sort of promise to convince her to uproot and settle on the other of the pond? If it all goes down the drain, then she has nothing to fall back on and will forever be associated as 'harry's ex'. Just look at both Chelsy and Cressida, no matter what they do, they can never escape the labels and the name calling.
As for being a divorcee, Harry doesn't seem to mind therefore I don't think we should either. Going through a divorce is pretty traumatic but also a tough life lesson in survival . Meghan is going to need all the thick skin she can muster if she is going to be part of the Windsor clan. Also, I have always believed that Harry has admiration for strong, tough independent woman: a survivor.
So that's my take so far. We'll just see what happens.
Also Eri, she does have a career. She is working in her chosen field: acting and has been so for many years before Harry came along. And no, it's not well-established list but she was and is working as an actress.
I would also cite Cressida as a working actress now too. No, she wasn't working when she was with Harry but she has had some roles on tv/on stages, so I would say she is an actress except she is luckier than 99% of her peers that she does not need to hold down 2 jobs to make ends meet.
Quote from: Eri on November 20, 2016, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: sandy on November 19, 2016, 10:21:27 PM
Meghan is a working actress and has had a career before dating Harry. I see no problem with her Instagram account
She had no carer before Harry as no one knew she existed ... you should have seen no issue with all people having an Instagram account ... again the hypocrisy is mind blowing ...
The topic is Meghan's instagram not "all people". I would not say "no one" knew she existed either. She had a job as an actress and the show has a following. There is no hypocrisy.
Quote from: v_voom on November 20, 2016, 03:12:48 PM
I've been away from the forum for a while except to check some threads sporadically. As for this new relationship, I'll just sit back and wait to see what happens. Like many, I was mildly surprised when Harry stepped up to issue a statement. Regardless of which side tipped off the press (although, I do think it was Meghan's people. I mean there are so many similar bracelets...who helped to connect the dots?), Harry stepped up for his girlfriend. Either he has learnt from his past mistakes or he has truly fallen for Meghan. I honestly do believe if it had been any other girl, they would have been shown the door pretty quickly.
One of the main reasons I immediately liked her is that, she is already a working woman. Not a well known established actress but, a working actress who can stand on her own two feet, educated, an activist and tries her hand in launching/collaborating a business. She got her roles in movies and tv shows through normal and hard working route before landing a big break in Suits. All achieved before hooking up with Harry.
On the other hand, I'm still dubious about how this all came public. We know it's been for a few months. They've been having transatlantic relationship. Speaking from my past experience, long distance relationships do not work unless one party makes majority of the sacrifices. And I'm afraid, it's going to have to be Meghan. If this is going somewhere, will she give up everything she has worked hard for for a possible ring and a title? Can Harry make some sort of promise to convince her to uproot and settle on the other of the pond? If it all goes down the drain, then she has nothing to fall back on and will forever be associated as 'harry's ex'. Just look at both Chelsy and Cressida, no matter what they do, they can never escape the labels and the name calling.
As for being a divorcee, Harry doesn't seem to mind therefore I don't think we should either. Going through a divorce is pretty traumatic but also a tough life lesson in survival . Meghan is going to need all the thick skin she can muster if she is going to be part of the Windsor clan. Also, I have always believed that Harry has admiration for strong, tough independent woman: a survivor.
So that's my take so far. We'll just see what happens.
Also Eri, she does have a career. She is working in her chosen field: acting and has been so for many years before Harry came along. And no, it's not well-established list but she was and is working as an actress.
I would also cite Cressida as a working actress now too. No, she wasn't working when she was with Harry but she has had some roles on tv/on stages, so I would say she is an actress except she is luckier than 99% of her peers that she does not need to hold down 2 jobs to make ends meet.
Rumor is she cheated on her husband and that is why her marriage ended so quickly she is no survivor if that is true ... she is a cheat ... she also toasted aside her other civil union man for Harry ... she i gonna make Kate look liek the best Princess ever ...
If it goes that far, I think she will put Kate to shame by doing more in the work department. The logistics of her first marriage are not definitively known.
I think Meghan will outshine Kate, she has much more charisma and personality :hehe:
The fact that Meghan is a American born and raised and half black will make hugely popular as a royal and a Princess. Ya know because it's different and she's not British. It will be a breath of fresh air into that family. A light went out in that family when Princess Diana died. Meghan will put it back.
I am hoping the Queen will allow her to styled by her own name, HRH Princess Meghan of Wales. But that highly unlikely but it should happen. I mean, Will and Kate will be King and Queen and Harry's wife should be styled a princess with own name because Harry is the second son of the heir to the thrown. She should make an exception here for Harry at least.
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Quote from: Yale on November 21, 2016, 03:50:45 AM
The fact that Meghan is a American born and raised and half black will make her hugely popular as a royal and a Princess. Everybody will want to see her at every event and royal function. Ya know because it's different and she's not British. It will be a breath of fresh air into that family. A light went out in that family when Princess Diana died. Meghan will put it back.
I am hoping the Queen will allow her to styled by her own name, HRH Princess Meghan of Wales. But that highly unlikely but it should happen. I mean, Will and Kate will be King and Queen and Harry's wife should be styled a princess with own name because Harry is the second son of the heir to the thrown. She should make an exception here for Harry at least.
^ Easy there ... beside the fact Kate is the only future Princess of Wales ... this relationship won't survive past February and I am being generous because they won't see each other a lot ... if girls like Chelsy , Flee and Cressida were a worry for the men in grey bed warmer is as far as Megan will go ...
^ that remains to be seen :P
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It's shocking PRINCE Harry can't do better than a rough looking 35 years old divorcee with a alleged history of cheating and whose own sister speaks ill of ... but yet again ... it's not like he has anything to offer to a decent girl with a life of her own ... what is bothersome about this woman is that she is using the "race card" and the "snowflake act" to keep Harry's attention ... unfortunately he is THAT stupid ... no one had an issue with her in the beginning to the contrary everyone was happy Harry was dating again it's only when more and more information came about who she is and what her past is that things turned for the worse ...
What is that saying again? Don't count your chickens before they hatch. I remember the press had married him to Cressida. Although I will admit anything is possible. Every time I think he could not be more disappointing, he proves me wrong.
^ Harry has disappointed me a long time ago when I realized that he has a public persona and a very ugly private side ... he will act as "the man of the people" but in reality he will only deal with people like Megan ... he has shown who he is over and over again it's just too fortunate for him a lot of people are willing to stay blind to who he really is for God knows what reason ...
People like Megan?? That is a Racist remark you don't like the girl which is fine you don't need to put her in box with that Extreme remark.
The media and everyone are counting their egg before it Hash because this time is different from other relationships harry had, not just the statement he released to the public but the way it's can clearly see there is something more going on behind the scene and for once the royal families are relax and ingoring all the negativity reviews all that show/tell the media outlet this is for real and it will happen for sure this is why they are all going nut and cashing in just like they did with kate earlier on because they know it was going to happen and non of them want to be left out off making more money!!
All Harry's known girlfriends have been very, very different. You could hardly get anyone more different to Chelsy than Cress, and Meghan is different again. I don't think Cressida was a clubber and she had much less money than the others. Chelsy was busy studying half the time and couldn't get away in term time, and Meghan has a structured career on another continent. About the only thing the three have in common is that they're all university educated.
I don't know what you mean by Harry's 'ugly side'. We all lose our temper sometimes and huge numbers of people of both sexes party and drink, especially in Britain. Since Las Vegas there have been very few accounts of Harry partying and none of him falling out of clubs drunk. Most of the staff at KP and Clarence House that have been interviewed about the Princes as they've grown up have referred to Harry as polite and considerate to others.
Quote from: good221 on November 21, 2016, 04:14:01 PM
People like Megan?? That is a Racist remark you don't like the girl which is fine you don't need to put her in box with that Extreme remark.
The media and everyone are counting their egg before it Hash because this time is different from other relationships harry had, not just the statement he released to the public but the way it's can clearly see there is something more going on behind the scene and for once the royal families are relax and ingoring all the negativity reviews all that show/tell the media outlet this is for real and it will happen for sure this is why they are all going nut and cashing in just like they did with kate earlier on because they know it was going to happen and non of them want to be left out off making more money!!
Harry is taking her on a romantic trip when he gets back. I think he'll propose to her. And ignore Eri and the others spewing their venom. It's not worth it. Let's discuss fun stuff about them.
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This goes at the heart of why I don't like this woman. She's an actress in show business and she doesn't know that when you are famous you attract all sorts on the internet. Give me a break. There are people who experience racism everyday that throwing around the word trivializes it. I'm not buying this damsel in distress romance of a lifetime act. Too much drama queen for my taste.
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This goes at the heart of why I don't like this woman. She's an actress in show business and she doesn't know that when you are famous you attract all sorts on the internet. Give me a break. There are people who experience racism everyday that throwing around the word trivializes it. I'm not buying this damsel in distress romance of a lifetime act. Too much drama queen for my taste.
You don't like her and you don't know her? Well so be it, but the question is, if Prince Harry does marry her when all is said and done, what can you do about it? Nothing, not one thing.
All I know is she will make the other Windsor Women look beyond silly. Kate must be quaking in her wedges.
I don't recall ever claiming I could do anything about anything. All I know is you are the company you keep, and so far what I see is a lot of grandstanding and game playing. That's Harry's headache though not mine. Good luck to him because he's going to need it.
I just wish him happiness and contentment. Whomever he marries. One thing I do wish for is his future wife is not as greedy and lazy as the girl his Brother picked.
Haha, I know, but that's setting the bar so low though.
^ Ain't that the truth :nod:
Cat00,
I just read an article from "The Sun" it says that Prince Harry pursued her and that he worked to convince her to become his girlfriend and when it became serious Meghan suddenly became very silent and that the fact that they were to keep it a secret for so long indicated that their relationship has merit and is very serious. Secondly, Harry is the one who went public about their relationship not her. So if it is lie, it's a lie he's telling. But it's true.
I am thrilled for them. I wonder if their wedding will be televised IF they go there.
^ If they go that far the weeding will be very downsized ... to Zara's level ... I always said Harry won't have a grand wedding under Liz but only if he married when his father is King if he marries this one it will be a very downsized to what he would have with another woman who isn't twice divorced ...
She leaked the story to the media, and after several days of silence from Harry, she marched in with her lawyers crying racism. Harry for all the pumping of his chest cannot do anything about online harassment of a person who is in the public domain selling her lifestyle. She should go talk to Gwyneth Paltrow about harassment. She's a 35 years old actress born in L.A. who is fully aware that any publicity is good publicity.
Harry is an idiot.
Meghan isn't twice divorced, just the once. What's called a civil union in Canada is called a defacto situation elsewhere. Divorced people can now marry in the Church of England, and St George's Chapel is absolutely lovely. We don't know how long the Queen will live. At 90, unfortunately, it's a year by year achievement. I don't think a King's son will be married quietly in Scotland, even if Harry wanted that, and he probably would.
What difference does it make if she is divorced Princess Anne divorced and remarried and we all know the tale about Harry's father so that is a moot argument.
HI, I'm new and like I said in the introduction, this whole Harry Meghan thing has really annoyed me. IMO, the papers are getting ahead of themselves because their main goal is to sell more papers/magazines. And this new gf, who happens to be an American actress will sell papers. Yet much of the info are hearsay. Although I do believe some are leaked (from Meghan's camp) which forced Kensington Palace to speak out or else Prince Harry looks weak.
I believe a person's past actions is an indication of her character and Meghan past isn't in her favor. TO be part of BRF is a long term commitment w/ much to live up to and much responsibility. After Meghan's first long relationship w/ her ex-husband, she has jumped from one man to another and the muddled in between stories aren't flattering to say the least. Her tastes for high social lifestyle in her blog & IG is in stark contrast for what she "preaches" about her charity.
But since we all don't know her personally, let's say we give her the benefit of the doubt (w/c I did at first). BUT her actions in the past couple of weeks screams "VERY VERY THIRSTY".
I think we've all seen the innuendos in her Social Media posts, the leaks of travel info confirmed by her IG, her walk-by to Whole Foods. Because lets face it, if she wants to lay low since this story came out, she could've but she didn't. The latest example is her essay w/c she just had to post the first week of Harry's official tour. This tour that should've been all about the Monarchy and the Queen has become a gossip rag's dream. And she just had to remind social media of her brightness. She couldn't wait a couple of weeks and just lay low. Can you imagine if Kate did all this back then? She would've been crucified. If Kate had social media and tried to steal the spotlight when she was just a girlfriend, she never would've gone far. If Kate had cried and complain and asked William for bodyguards, well... you get my point.
I have great respect for Queen Elizabeth II. To me, she has worked hard all her life to keep the monarchy together and respectable. She has served since WWII and had to endure the scandals of her children & now grandchildren. The little work her grandchildren does should be a reflection of her and the monarchy, not scandals and gossips. I remember my father telling me he saw the Queen and Prince during their parade through Hong Kong all those years ago. He was a little boy then but it left an impression on him.
And IMO, if and when this relationship goes south, she will milk the publicity to her advantage by innuendoes and indirectly making her look like the victim and it won't look good for the BRF.
That's it. Thanks for having a place to say my POV. :nod:
I have never witnessed Harry get so much bad comments and press ... his Tour is a joke that isn't even being reported apart from the humiliation from the Prime Minister last Night and her family is talking to the press and giving away family pictures ... I would have never thought Harry would manage to find someone who makes Kate look good and whose family would make the Midds look classy ... MA Midds must be laughing out laud ...
Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 09:23:19 AM
I have never witnessed Harry get so much bad comments and press ... his Tour is a joke that isn't even being reported apart from the humiliation from the Prime Minister last Night and her family is talking to the press and giving away family pictures ... I would have never thought Harry would manage to find someone who makes Kate look good and whose family would make the Midds look classy ... MA Midds must be laughing out laud ...
true. I've been lurking and reading many forums over the years. And this story just skyrocketed so fast and out of control.
IMO, whatever weaknesses or faults Kate and the Middletons have... at least they stayed quiet and endured the paps and British rags for 10 years. The immediate family stuck together and looked respectable. And most importantly, they don't try to steal the limelight from the Queen and the Monarchy. Can you imagine if Kate and her mom walked around London w/ bodyguards or assistants back when she was just a new girlfriend? They'd vilify her.
Meghan can blame the papers for all these articles coming out, but lets be real, if she didn't cry victim or indirectly gave "innuendoes or clues" on Social Media, things wouldn't have gone out of hand.
^ Only here have I witnessed 3 people defending her ... she is being crucified all over the Internet and rightfully so ... Cressida was crucified for waaaaaaaaaay less ... Harry's transformation into Andrew is complete ... we all knew he would eventually get there but his downfall I didn't predict to be from a woman as he has been pretty ruthless with Cressida , Mollie and Flee ... karma maybe for how he treated them ...
I could've understood defending Meghan when this news first "leaked" and Meghan had laid low and just went about her work. But she "encouraged it" and whoever her PR person is went into steroid mode and catapulted her from "maybe dating" to "princess-in-waiting" in a couple of weeks. Everything was calculated. The way she presented "clues" on IG is the regular M.O. of C & D-list actors who try to be Social Media sensations.
She complained about paps in Toronto (which is laughable). Her mom probably had more paps following her because she lives in Los Angeles. (Btw, I went to University in L.A., so I was exposed to all the celebrity bru-haha and machinery over there. Believe me, the thirst for fame and the dream is fierce.) If you want to lay low though, there are always ways to do it.
Again , to me, it is her actions/reactions that has made me frown and dislike her. It has justified all those caricatures that British papers have made these days.
Maybe she & Harry deserve each other, I don't know. But I feel bad for the Queen. I thought this new generation (now that William, Kate & Harry are in their 30's) would clean up and bring back respectability to the BRF.
^ I don't feel sorry for Liz ... obviously she is a weak head of her family who allows this nonsense to happen and the new generation to ran her legacy to the ground ... I haven't figured out yet if she hates confrontation or just doesn't care ...
Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 09:23:19 AM
I have never witnessed Harry get so much bad comments and press ... his Tour is a joke that isn't even being reported apart from the humiliation from the Prime Minister last Night and her family is talking to the press and giving away family pictures ... I would have never thought Harry would manage to find someone who makes Kate look good and whose family would make the Midds look classy ... MA Midds must be laughing out laud ...
That is not true. The Media Liaison officer for Government House Antigua, Jacquie Browne, stated that 17 foreign news groups were present for the Prince's arrival in Antigua and following the tour. They included US Reuters, Thompson Reuters, NBC, ABC, Vantage News, Hussain Gallery, Channel Five,
British Press Association UK, The Express, The Telegraph, the DM, the Daily Mirror and The Sun.
The Antigua Observer newspaper, reporting this, said that their reporter had noted 35 to 40 international media representatives at the airport when Harry arrived.
^ I think that's the point. DESPITE all the news outlet there to cover his tour on behalf of the Monarchy. It will all be overshadowed by the gossips, questions and innuendoes related to his relationship w/ Meghan. Thus making the whole 2 weeks pretty much useless on the PR front. (I'm sure the people w/c he visited still appreciated this attendance.)
With regards to the Queen, I just think she's old school. In her mind, she is doing her duty and expects her example to be followed by her children and grandchildren. Obviously not. She already endured her uncle's scandal and now all this. I do believe she loves her family in her own way but she was raised to uphold duty above all else. (maybe I just watched the Crown and I'm biased. :happy:) I do believe she dotes on William and Harry, maybe that's why they get away with so many things.
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Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 09:23:19 AM
I have never witnessed Harry get so much bad comments and press ... his Tour is a joke that isn't even being reported apart from the humiliation from the Prime Minister last Night and her family is talking to the press and giving away family pictures ... I would have never thought Harry would manage to find someone who makes Kate look good and whose family would make the Midds look classy ... MA Midds must be laughing out laud ...
That is not true. The Media Liaison officer for Government House Antigua, Jacquie Browne, stated that 17 foreign news groups were present for the Prince's arrival in Antigua and following the tour. They included US Reuters, Thompson Reuters, NBC, ABC, Vantage News, Hussain Gallery, Channel Five,
British Press Association UK, The Express, The Telegraph, the DM, the Daily Mirror and The Sun.
The Antigua Observer newspaper, reporting this, said that their reporter had noted 35 to 40 international media representatives at the airport when Harry arrived.
On my Twitter feed his Tour is non existent and I follow all the Royal Reporters who are there with him who are obviously there just for an incredible vacation ... I also noticed no real news outlet cares ...not even The Express ...
This tour doesn't just exist on Twitter. On another forum on the tour there have been lots of articles and photos from various news organisations posted each day and it has only just started.
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Harry isn't 'getting away' with things. When he is on duty at his engagements Harry is never anything but professional. He's warm, enthusiastic and empathetic to the people he meets. Palmer on his Twitter page had him getting down and lying on the ground beside a severely disabled girl to give her a cuddle.
The Antigua PM was completely out of line in mentioning Harry's private life. When a Royal goes on tour all local dignitaries are given protocol sheets, which includes not mentioning anything private when making speeches of welcome. He was completely wrong to do so, even if he was joking.
^ This topic isn't about his Tour and we shall talk about how much coverage it is getting on the specific topic ... one thing is for sure ...the press is making him pay for that statement ... them ignoring this Tour can't be denied ... he thinks he can get away with things Willy gets away with he forgets he is an irrelevant Royal who isn't doing anything of any importance and he doesn't have the two cute kids that make the press forget all the beating they get ...
Harry is on this tour on behalf of his Grandmother it is wrong for any dignitary to bring up his private life.
Quote from: Trudie on November 22, 2016, 01:24:15 PM
Harry is on this tour on behalf of his Grandmother it is wrong for any dignitary to bring up his private life.
Yes, it was definitely wrong. But because the whole thing blew out of proportion due to "leaked info" and palace statements going back and forth from Meghan's PR team and Kensington Palace, plus the gossip columns, it all became fair game. What was once speculation and gossip are now being adopted as facts. (I mean, who the heck actually knows as a fact what they talked about or how many times they've seen each other in the past few months). So for any dignitary who probably just reads newspaper summary, it's probably a fact (to his mind) that their relationship is furthering along than what actually is.
Thus, it goes back to all the badly handled PR push and pull from both teams. And I believe it is naive to think that Meghan doesn't have any pull or say in this. IMO, she pushed for it w/ her social media outlets and PR team.
Harry has been linked to several actresses/singers/public figures in the past months. ( Ellie Goulding, Jenna Coleman, Emma Watson... etc). Some have pictures, some have witness accounts of flirting and some are just rumors but what is common w/ these women is that they have been discreet and silent about this issue. Mainly because these talented women are successful women in their respective work and want to be known as such, not w/ who they are dating. The rumor w/ Ellie Goulding persisted (even w/ witnesses of them kissing and flirting in public) but you won't hear a peep from her nor any innuendos or clues on her IG. THAT is THE DIFFERENCE & earns some respect from me as a WOMAN (no matter my racial background).
^^ It's not like Harry is there doing anything of significance ... Will, Kate and Harry have taken any gravitas there WAS out of the British Royal Family ... they act and they shall be treated as the C list celebs they are ... especially Harry who loves to mingle with people like Cara Delevigne and Sienna Miller and doesn't have the excuse he will be Monarch one Day ... the man child should get a J.O.B and lay low while doing his Royal duties without putting STUPID statements out there and maybe World leaders will have something to actually talk to him about other than his private life ...
as I've traveled throughout the world, I tried to ask Brits I've met about their opinion regarding the royal family. 95% of the reply I got was always " I guess they're good for tourists". So I guess that sums up the POV of locals and foreigners who are awed by the pomp and circumstance. (Although I do believe QE2 has a certain respect, thus she won't abdicate.) And in a way, they are like celebrities, brought out for the viewing public on special occasions. (again, I'm quoting the Brits I asked about this)
And it goes back to Meghan being American ( again, I don't care if she's biracial or not, lest someone lectures me on that), thus she is enamored by this lifestyle of jewels & titles & pomp & privilege. Maybe she even believes if she is princess, she can do "good through her charities". But IMO, she is pushing way too hard for this w/o knowing the responsibilities they have, first & foremost to the British people. (Let's face it, it's their taxes who are sustaining them) She's thirsty for this w/o realizing the responsibility this should entail.
Harry and Meghan may believe it's their lives and people should let them live it. But let's face it, w/ privilege comes responsibility. If Harry can get an 8-5 job, w/o all the privilege his title or ancestors gave him, I don't think the Daily Mail would care who he dates or who he brings into the his family.
It's amazing how some people like to judge others. She's divorced, she's bi racial, she's an actress, she likes to show up ... so what? At least now Harry is not with a futile blonde, head of air, is with a woman of personality, independent, who earns his own money. What's wrong with her continuing to post on social networks? She's a public person, an actress, she's been working on a TV show for six years, she's got fans, she's got thousands of followers .... and she has not posted anything that commits Harry. And the negative comments that Harry is receiving, it's half a dozen envious trolls, people who have an unhappy life and attacks others to unburden their unhappiness and frustrations, It's just nonsense, unimportant :thumbsdown:
Harry is stupid with limited mental capacity we all know that ... it's his people that shock me ... to put that moronic statement out there ... what did they expect? That it would make people stop talking about innocent snowflake Megan? Stupid ... his Press Secretary should be fired on the spot ...
Some speak until she has posted the bananas. What's the problem? Is the name Harry written on the banana? People have nothing to talk about, so they encounter problems where they do not exist. Not to mention those people who are envious, jealous, and others who also dream that Harry will still return to his ex girlfriends. Pathetic!!!!
I'm really cheering for this romance to work out and end up in marriage. :consoling1:
Branding people who criticize two public figures, one of which is selling her lifestyle, is a weak argument to put it politely. I don't aspire to be a poseur so no my problem with her has nothing to do with jealousy.
If I were dating a member of the BRF, I would have the common sense to be less thirsty than than this drama queen.
Quote from: Eri on November 21, 2016, 10:38:04 PM
^ If they go that far the weeding will be very downsized ... to Zara's level ... I always said Harry won't have a grand wedding under Liz but only if he married when his father is King if he marries this one it will be a very downsized to what he would have with another woman who isn't twice divorced ...
No, as the second son of the heir to the throne I think it will be similar to Prince Andrew's, and be televised. Harry is part of the downsized monarchy. His father, a divorced man, married Camilla, a divorced woman who was involved with Charles during his marriage to his first wife. I doubt Charles would tsk tsk Harry if he marries Meghan.
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Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 02:51:48 PM
Harry is stupid with limited mental capacity we all know that ... it's his people that shock me ... to put that moronic statement out there ... what did they expect? That it would make people stop talking about innocent snowflake Megan? Stupid ... his Press Secretary should be fired on the spot ...
No we "all" don't know that since it is your opinion.
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Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 01:52:28 PM
^^ It's not like Harry is there doing anything of significance ... Will, Kate and Harry have taken any gravitas there WAS out of the British Royal Family ... they act and they shall be treated as the C list celebs they are ... especially Harry who loves to mingle with people like Cara Delevigne and Sienna Miller and doesn't have the excuse he will be Monarch one Day ... the man child should get a J.O.B and lay low while doing his Royal duties without putting STUPID statements out there and maybe World leaders will have something to actually talk to him about other than his private life ...
Well whether he likes it or not William will have to get his act together and so will Kate, since he is a future monarch. But that said, Harry IS part of Charles plan for a scaled down monarchy and will do royal duties. I hope the three of them step up.
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Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 10:30:36 AM
^ Only here have I witnessed 3 people defending her ... she is being crucified all over the Internet and rightfully so ... Cressida was crucified for waaaaaaaaaay less ... Harry's transformation into Andrew is complete ... we all knew he would eventually get there but his downfall I didn't predict to be from a woman as he has been pretty ruthless with Cressida , Mollie and Flee ... karma maybe for how he treated them ...
It takes two to make a relationship. Unless one can spy on Harry and the lady friends, it is not known how they behaved or how they were treated.
These bitter people think that offending Meghan or criticizing the dating will make them finish. If they are in love (what I believe) the opinion of others will not matter. And if they do, it certainly will not be because of the opinion of others. Didn't the prince of Sweden marry a woman whom the majority considered inadequate? Meghan is not even the majority., are some people with several different profiles, who feel pleasure in judging, criticizing and annoys
Quote from: Cat00 on November 22, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
These bitter people think that offending Meghan or criticizing the dating will make them finish. If they are in love (what I believe) the opinion of others will not matter. And if they do, it certainly will not be because of the opinion of others. Didn't the prince of Sweden marry a woman whom the majority considered inadequate? Meghan is not even the majority., are some people with several different profiles, who feel pleasure in judging, criticizing and annoys
Cat00, no worries. Harry is going to do what he wants in the end. And Meghan is an American Black woman and she is made of pretty tough stuff! She will not let the media scare her off.
I believe that's we call a Hail Mary. :wub:
Would it be possible for Prince Harry to still marry Meghan at Westminster Abbey? After all, his Grandmother The Queen is the head of the Anglican Church.
Well, like I said on my post before, I can give Meghan the benefit of the doubt if she had laid low and promoted her job w/o all the innuendoes and dramas. But it is her actions w/c are annoying and inappropriate. I mean really, crying victim, hiring bodyguards and adding fuel to the fire w/ all her "timed social media" posts. How thirsty does she have to be for it all to be obvious.
I'm neither a troll nor jealous. But it only takes common sense to realize how all these publicities are orchestrated. When William & Kate were dating, did you ever hear "leaks" of planned vacations 2-3 weeks beforehand? Or did Kate's family babble to the press getting their 5 minutes of fame? Bodyguards? Drivers? Playing victim to the press? No, she kept her sh*t together in spite of 10 years of the press calling her "waity katie".
And most importantly, people are just jumping the gun. Everyone seems to forget that this is a vacation romance! Meghan and Harry haven't even lived in the same city in a span of a month, much less years. How can you know each other when every time you meet up, it's all about vacation and romantic spots, not real life ? IMO, that's why Harry was embarrassed when the topic came up, everybody seems to be pre-empting him when he seems to just want time to "date this girl".
I'm not sure about the specific rules, but I don't think you can marry in church when your ex-spouse is still living. Prince Charles was able to re-marry because Princess Diana passed away. Charles and Camilla waited and bided their time.
As for Prince Philip of Sweden, well.. . ask Swedes what they think of their Royal Family. They're either irrelevant or embarrassed by his choice. And they're really really glad they changed the ascension rule so that Princess Victoria would be Queen.
Camilla was a divorcee and Charles was a divorced man (he divorced Diana before she died) and not widower. He was able to marry Camilla in a registry office with the blessing. He did not get the Church wedding. Charles had to wait to marry Camilla for 9 years after he divorced Diana, one reason was that his grandmother did not want the marriage in her lifetime. I think he would have married Camilla whether or not Diana died. He was still a divorced man not a widower. Kate did play the media during the breakup, for several weeks. Kate's family did babble to the press. Uncle Gary gave an embarrassing interview recounting WIlliam and Kate's stay at his home. There were also reports that William "lent" bodyguards to Kate.
Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 11:07:46 AM
^ I don't feel sorry for Liz ... obviously she is a weak head of her family who allows this nonsense to happen and the new generation to ran her legacy to the ground ... I haven't figured out yet if she hates confrontation or just doesn't care ...
I would say she has a lot of compassion for the younger siblings in the family. They know they won't be monarch but the only career allowed for them to take is in the forces. They can't set up business (look what happened to Edward when he tried) they can't forge careers in the law or business that must be so frustrating for them its time to let the younger brothers take on a career of their choice and say good luck to them rather than insist they do nothing but royal engagements.
Some here are being ridiculous ... he is obviously embarrassed to be seen with her and sent her on her merry way after just three Days ... not a man in love more a man who will regain his senses once the sex warms off and she will be just one of his many exes ... she knows this and that is why she is milking this "relationship" for all she can ... she created drama so he would put that statement out there but he will never be seen with her ...
Quote from: sandy on November 23, 2016, 01:35:39 AM
Camilla was a divorcee and Charles was a divorced man (he divorced Diana before she died) and not widower. He was able to marry Camilla in a registry office with the blessing. He did not get the Church wedding. Charles had to wait to marry Camilla for 9 years after he divorced Diana, one reason was that his grandmother did not want the marriage in her lifetime. I think he would have married Camilla whether or not Diana died. He was still a divorced man not a widower. Kate did play the media during the breakup, for several weeks. Kate's family did babble to the press. Uncle Gary gave an embarrassing interview recounting WIlliam and Kate's stay at his home. There were also reports that William "lent" bodyguards to Kate.
Exactly, we were talking about church wedding, it would be difficult if not impossible. Prince Harry would need the Queen's permission to marry. Unless he goes the route of his great-uncle and renounces his title & privileges. There would be no impediment for Harry and Meghan.
I'm sure Charles was always in love w/ Camilla. But he wants to be king badly. So they waited. Can you imagine Meghan waiting 5 or10 years to get permission? Or can you imagine Harry getting a 9-5 job and give up privileges.... yeah... far fetched.
As I stated before... Kate's immediate family kept their sh*t together. Her parents are together. She and her siblings are a unit (at least in public). Kate didn't have social media to manipulate the limelight. She & William just went about their relationship since University. If after 7 years, William decided to look another way, hey IMO, Kate can "use or manipulate" the paps that have been hounding her for years to her advantage.
See the difference I keep pointing out is that William and Kate were in a 10-year relationship. As they grew together and got more serious, I'm sure she slowly got to use bodyguards, drivers, assistants as well as tutors to teach her about Royal responsibilities.
My annoyance w/ this VERY NEW "vacation relationship" is ALL the drama made after just a couple of weeks or months of dating. GET IT ? With all their work & obligations, I don't think they've been in the same city for a total of a month. It's a vacation relationship and she's creating so much drama to be the damsel in distress, thus making this whole issue bigger. It's embarrassing for both sides. Meghan wants to be portrayed as this strong woman, yet she's being a drama queen just to be a princess. :royalsneeze: And like I said before, I could've given her the benefit of the doubt if she'd laid low. But she kept poking her head in social media in time w/ events such as that we won't forget "Harry's new girl". To me, that tells a lot about her character and her motives.
I think it's easy for foreigners, especially Americans, to say "leave them be", "or as long as they're happy" "who cares" .... Because you're not paying the taxes that supports the Royals' security, upkeep of palaces, etc, etc. Whatever embarrassment the Royal family does will go down w/ Britain's history, not yours. The Queen knows her responsibility to her people, I don't know if the other royals do. So heck yah, Prince Harry did look like a whiny kid w/ his letter. His privileged life comes w/ responsibility and dignity. Thus all the papers were mocking him. And I guess someone graffitied Meghan's graffiti ... guess that tells it all.
^ She is obviously used to get VERY serious VERY fast in her relationships and he is not ... that is why she has to use the "race card" and the "snowflake act" for him to continue to have an interest in her ... too bad it won't last his attention spam is as short as her marriages ...
Ridiculous is one who still can't see the seriousness of dating. Harry assumed to the world that he was dating her, Defended her from the trolls attacks, and he had never done that to any other GIRLFRIEND, If this is not serious , what else would it be? :lol: :lol: :lol: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
Quote from: Cat00 on November 23, 2016, 01:11:54 PM
Ridiculous is one who still can't see the seriousness of dating. Harry assumed to the world that he was dating her, Defended her from the trolls attacks, and he had never done that to any other GIRLFRIEND, If this is not serious , what else would it be? :lol: :lol: :lol: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
It's called a rash, immature & knee-jerk reaction. He's being the knight in swing armor. And like you said: "He has never done that to any other GF"... and THAT is why I don't think this will get approval from her majesty nor the monarchy.
IMO, the fact that it was "leaked" shows that he wasn't protective enough in the first place. But as I believe it was leaked from Meghan's camp, I believe Harry & KP were blind sided. They weren't prepared for the backlash and the prying into her background.
I believe Kensington Palace was pushed to a corner w/ the "race and victim card" and it'll make Harry look weak and politically incorrect NOT to defend someone he's seeing just because she's American & mixed race. For the Prince, well, he just wants what he wants and he'll whine about it. :windsor1: I do believe he believes he's in love or in lust, and he wants to date Meghan. But as to how long and how viable this relationship is long term... still remains to be seen. IMO, this is still a "vacation relationship" and not a "real life relationship".
In the first place, if he was serious (like serious enough to marry her) ... he wouldn't cringe even when her name is inappropriately brought up by dignitaries. He'd just smile and move on. But because he knows that BECAUSE of Meghan, all his work on this tour would be shadowed... well, hence the cringe. JMO.
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oh.. and btw... Harry's letter to the press was released around the time of the Prince of Wales' tour in the Middle East. It overshadowed the work and press and everything else Prince Charles and the Monarchy wanted to promote.
so... like I saw.. Harry's "letter of defense" was rash, immature and a knee jerk reaction. I don't think his Papa was all too happy about the whiny tone either.
why does QE II have to deal with these spoiled offsprings... :eyes:
Quote from: Cat00 on November 23, 2016, 01:11:54 PM
Ridiculous is one who still can't see the seriousness of dating. Harry assumed to the world that he was dating her, Defended her from the trolls attacks, and he had never done that to any other GIRLFRIEND, If this is not serious , what else would it be? :lol: :lol: :lol: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
What I am not seeing is any pictures of Harry and his flavor of the Month that is why she is forced to wear those bracelets to prove something ... none of his two very serious girlfriends had to do that ... he was proud to be seen with them all over the place ... Cressida got to sit with him while he was performing an official duty ...
Quote from: Cat00 on November 23, 2016, 01:11:54 PM
Ridiculous is one who still can't see the seriousness of dating. Harry assumed to the world that he was dating her, Defended her from the trolls attacks, and he had never done that to any other GIRLFRIEND, If this is not serious , what else would it be? :lol: :lol: :lol: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
In addition, Harry has been travelling back and forth to see her, not once but SEVERAL TIMES and staying at each others houses. He is thinking about paying for her a security when she is in Britain.
I ignore certain ones here because what I have read is clear and I am not debating the point any longer.
^ What you have read is pure speculation by rags who are desperate to marry him off to ANYONE ... there is no proof he has been in Toronto to see her ... unless you have pictures you can't accuse anyone of making things up because YOU are doing the same thing ... pictures or it didn't happen ... no one is doubting the two are sleeping together but big whoop Harry sleeps with a lot of women and has an history of getting naked in a room full of strangers ... if this woman gets anywhere near "official girlfriend" territory then I am Jennifer Lopez ... after the Tour she is to never be heard of again as Harry will be spending the Holidays with his family when he is back and Liz and Chuck will be heard :windsor1: ... if he was anywhere near serious about this girl she wouldn't have spend a weekend in London just to be send on her marry way and he would actually be seen with her and acted like a proud boyfriend which he obviously isn't ...
Just the fact of him saying to the world that he is dating her and also defend her, is already the real proof of a serious relationship, if I were his ex girlfriends, had been very jealous :vday2: :hehe: .The photo is just a detail, just a matter of time . I found it so cute he defended her, so romantic :hug: :hug:
Meghan's sister was on ET last night to set the record straight. There is no real family conflict. They got into an argument 5 or 6 years ago over their parents. Meghan took her mother's side and her sister took their father's. They were out of touch for a while but talked last week she said. She also told Meghan, that she was so proud of her. She got teary eyed and emotional. She said that the person that interviewed her lied and twisted what she said etc. She never said anything negative about her.
She can forward she said because she did not want lies about their family impacting Meghan's relationship with Harry.
Meghan's sister also said that this stuff needs to stop and that Harry and Meghan are entitled to their privacy. She is 100% spot on! She is SO RIGHT!!!
This young lady may have many interests and qualification in the public arena, which matches Prince Harry's... and maybe as some have said , he may be better with an older (not too much older) lady, however this one, one has to question her love for Prince Harry and would be loyal and supportive of him and his duties, or does she already love the limelight.... Her family need to back off. They remind my of the Beverly Hill Billies (*).. I simply cannot see her family and the royal family ever sitting down to a bar be cue or a royal wedding. I hope Prince Harry realizes the pitfalls that will come with Meghan and her family . Let them both have fun in this relationship, but to know nothing is written in stone... Meghan has been married , and had an affair or two, even breaking off a 2 year relationship to be free for Harry's pursuit... Hopefully this romance will endure and then fade off. ALL IMO of course!
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Why pitfalls? Is Harry by any chance an innocent kid? Meghan has flaws? Yes, everyone has. No one's good enough for Harry, if it depends on some people, he'll be single forever. People who judge others without knowing, it makes me tired! <_<
We don't know what broke Meghan and her ex the chef up. All I've read in the press is from the Toronto Globe, a daily paper that reported ages ago that the chef was saying by June that he and his girlfriend were no more. All the rest is speculation, the story that the chef cooked dinner for Harry and the Trudeaus' guests, that Meghan was there and slipped Harry her number etc etc has been built on by those who took an instant dislike to MM. It's a scenario that was first put forward by an anonymous poster in the Lola Hearts blog for goodness sake. Anyone can say anything when they post like that!
The only people in Meghan's family who've spoken are half-siblings who apparently aren't particularly close to her any more and have only said nice things anyway. The half sister went on ET to correct what the tabs had printed on her FB.
I would like Harry to be happy. If he is happy with Meghan, fine. If it's someone else in a year or two, fine. However, as he's found, every girlfriend he is ever going to have is going to be destroyed on social media, dissected, faults and exaggerations picked over, hated for her appearance, profession, character etc etc. Whatever happened to giving someone a chance?
By the way, Meghan has said nothing. An IG of two bananas and another one of a teapot is a signal to the world that 'I've got a Prince! See how great I am!' Perleeze!
Big deal that she walked near the DM office when shopping in London. Crown Princess Mary probably walked all over Copenhagen when she was dating Fred, including near newspaper offices. The difference with her is she wasn't being followed by people from the revolting Daily Fail.
Harry had better find a plaster Saint next time, straight out of a convent. Even if he did there would be DM commenters and people on social media criticising her for hiding away in a convent. 'What's SHE got to hide', 'Hate nuns,' and thousands of other spiteful remarks.
Harry can't win. He's better off pleasing himself and who cares what the population (who doesn't know her or him) thinks!
"Who cares what people think"
That sounds absolutely lovely, but unfortunately for Harry, he's a prince born into an institution funded by tax payers so he ought to be more mindful of the company he keeps. I want him to be happy as I'm sure everyone does, absolutely. But all he has to do is find someone with some discretion, a person who won't use him to advance her brand before they even get the chance to get to know each other. Someone who's family is not yapping on about his nephew and niece that has nothing to do with them. It's so inappropriate and tacky. Also, Kate has already set the bar really low so how hard can it be. I like Harry, I really do, and to me he's the best of the bunch, but he needs to get his personal life together. You mean to tell me he can't find a nice girl from Cornwall or wherever, come on...
:goodpost: ^ SPOT ON!
Like I said before, if Harry renounces his titles & privileges.... heck, then he can say... "it's our lives, no one else has a say in that or can meddle in our affairs". But Harry getting a 9-5 job... yeah... just think about it. And question will be, will Meghan still want him when he's an ordinary citizen. If she does, then more power to them.
"Meghan has said nothing..." well, on the contrary, her sneaky innuendoes is much cruder than if she's actually said an official statement for people to please leave her be. But NO... she wants to keep people suspended and look at her social media posts. Which, btw, are always timed to share the limelight w/ Harry's work or news. And bodyguards w/ big black SUVs :hmm:... I mean, how much do you want to get noticed around Toronto.
Someone said "Kate set the bar low"... yeah, well.. the Middletons are looking pretty rosy right now, especially for the institution. Can you imagine Pippa talking to ET about their "family issues" only after a FEW months of William & Kate dating????
I keep reiterating a few months.... but it's probably just a total of a few days or a month MAX that they're together in one city. I don't begrudge Harry dating... but the thought of weddings is just laughable. It's just the American magazines jumping the gun to sell papers and fashion magazines hoping for Grace Kelly days... again, just to sell papers. It's annoying.
I know a lot of people are in denial here... but public opinions on all the papers and article comments says it all. And IMO, What the Brits say definitely weighs more than foreigners. It's their institution, their money and their history.
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The sad fact is... this whole thing is beginning to resemble the Wallis Simpson affair. And w/ the outbreak of social media and 24-hour news, it's like the whole thing on steroids. It's really embarrassing.
I was hoping Harry has more dignity & sense of responsibility than Edward VIII. Because by all accounts, Edward VIII was a selfish jerk(and i'm being nice w/ my words, lots of accounts used harsher descriptions for the Duke & Duchess of Windsor).
I mean seriously Harry, help out your grandmother in restoring dignity to the Monarchy. Enough w/ the scandals.
Quote from: Curryong on November 24, 2016, 03:34:03 AM
We don't know what broke Meghan and her ex the chef up. All I've read in the press is from the Toronto Globe, a daily paper that reported ages ago that the chef was saying by June that he and his girlfriend were no more. All the rest is speculation, the story that the chef cooked dinner for Harry and the Trudeaus' guests, that Meghan was there and slipped Harry her number etc etc has been built on by those who took an instant dislike to MM. It's a scenario that was first put forward by an anonymous poster in the Lola Hearts blog for goodness sake. Anyone can say anything when they post like that!
The only people in Meghan's family who've spoken are half-siblings who apparently aren't particularly close to her any more and have only said nice things anyway. The half sister went on ET to correct what the tabs had printed on her FB.
I would like Harry to be happy. If he is happy with Meghan, fine. If it's someone else in a year or two, fine. However, as he's found, every girlfriend he is ever going to have is going to be destroyed on social media, dissected, faults and exaggerations picked over, hated for her appearance, profession, character etc etc. Whatever happened to giving someone a chance?
By the way, Meghan has said nothing. An IG of two bananas and another one of a teapot is a signal to the world that 'I've got a Prince! See how great I am!' Perleeze!
Big deal that she walked near the DM office when shopping in London. Crown Princess Mary probably walked all over Copenhagen when she was dating Fred, including near newspaper offices. The difference with her is she wasn't being followed by people from the revolting Daily Fail.
Harry had better find a plaster Saint next time, straight out of a convent. Even if he did there would be DM commenters and people on social media criticising her for hiding away in a convent. 'What's SHE got to hide', 'Hate nuns,' and thousands of other spiteful remarks.
Harry can't win. He's better off pleasing himself and who cares what the population (who doesn't know her or him) thinks!
Personally I am whatever about this whole "relationship" I have no strong feelings towards this woman more power to her whatever she is doing ... what I find mind blowing is people who ABUSED and NAMED CALLED a 23 years old Cressida and her whole family actually liking this one and treating this twice separated 35 years old like an innocent snowflake who can't be criticized ... that is mind blowing ... I can not see Cressida survive half of the things that this woman and her family did in such a short time and that is the only issue I have with this whole situation ... as for Harry ... he is a useless 30 something years old who refuses to work for a living and lives off the public purse so the public will judge him and his girlfriend whose security he wants to be provided by the public purse ... if he wants people out of his face he needs to take his Di money and Queen Mother money and go live in Africa like we all know he wants to ... until then ...
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Quote from: Eri on November 22, 2016, 11:07:46 AM
^ I don't feel sorry for Liz ... obviously she is a weak head of her family who allows this nonsense to happen and the new generation to ran her legacy to the ground ... I haven't figured out yet if she hates confrontation or just doesn't care ...
I would say she has a lot of compassion for the younger siblings in the family. They know they won't be monarch but the only career allowed for them to take is in the forces. They can't set up business (look what happened to Edward when he tried) they can't forge careers in the law or business that must be so frustrating for them its time to let the younger brothers take on a career of their choice and say good luck to them rather than insist they do nothing but royal engagements.
I agree
@PaulaB. Phillip and Elizabeth must know that the latter part of the 20th century would be difficult for their younger children. Edward tried to make a go of a career outside of the royal bubble, but it failed. The Dutch royals appear to have found the right formula as Beatrix and Claus' younger sons were not raised to play a role within the royal family but to work in a career with minimal royal appearance. I hope that other royal parents are raising their "spares" to consider a life without the guarantee of working for the "firm."
It's nice that some try to have careers outside. Apparently, Queen Elizabeth II's nephew is furniture designer and part of the board at Christie's UK. So good for him and his family.
This charade will be over the minute Chuck gets his hands on Harry ... they will be spending a lot of time together ... ''Meg" is to not be heard of again ... in fact ... I wonder if she got her marching orders when she was in London and that is why she left so quickly ... New Years Eve time will be interesting to say the least ...
Well Chuck should be the last person to get his hands on Harry. Chuck was allowed a privilege denied his great uncle.
^ Well I think Harry got rid of her anyways ... no woman spends two/three Days with her new boyfriend of a few weeks that she knows she won't be able to see for weeks between his Tour and his obligations with his family during the Holidays ... something went on that weekend ... by the way ... I didn't know Cam was a twice divorce American will ties to Hitler's Ambassador :lol: ... who knew ...
No Cam was a divorced adulteress as well as her husband each breaking up the others marriages. The big issue was the church and succession so before anyone condemns Meghan for being divorced that would be the pot calling the kettle.
I think there are several differences w/ Charles and Edward VIII. Most important was that Charles was willing to wait because he wants to be King. Diana passed away, so he was able to re-marry. I don't think the British people would've accepted Camilla otherwise if Diana was still living. Plus, Camilla was willing to forgo the big wedding and was given the title of duchess & not princess. ( I don't know if she'll be Queen, but from my understanding, she won't be) So you think Meghan will be willing to forgo the big wedding and the title "Princess"??? haha :lol:
My impression is that Edward VIII wanted to leave all his responsibilities to his brother George just to be w/ Wallis Simpson. And by all accounts, the duke and duchess of Windsor liked to entertain and party and live the high life. They were treated like celebrities by people who wanted to touch royalty (w/c was a downgrade for them, but they had to have income) And everyone says they're not nice and very arrogant to people below their station. Plus that picture w/ Hitler really repulsed me.
So a factor here is how much of Harry is like his father and how much like Edward VIII. Is Harry willing to wait for things to calm down to retain his title AND responsibilities AND get his choice of wife? Or does he just want to live the high life and be a B-celebrity? And btw, if you think Harry is like Charles, then I guess he'll eventually go back to his first love... w/c is Chelsy. And even if Charles lets Harry gets his wish, Harry won't get the go-signal anytime soon, plus there's still the Queen.
AS for Meghan, unfortunately for her, everything is now online and documented. And no, she isn't just divorced once, she's had several controversial overlapping relationships. #2 She's an American actress. And no, not like Grace Kelly, she's had skimpy photos and steamy scenes on tape ( if you don't think that matters, then you haven't been paying attention to the Monarchy) #3 I don't remember Camilla's brother or half sister or children going on Entertainment Tonight to give interviews ? Did they? :lol: I mean, it's all just embarrassing. :eyes: #4 the way Meghan's playing social media to get attention and limelight, she won't last long even if she does enter the royal family. (btw, she gained 200K follower on IG in the past couple of weeks, I'm sure she was hoping for more) But she has to remember, it's the crown and the institution that is the center and not a single individual. I could go on and on... but I think most people get it.
And lastly and most important, Brits don't seem to like her. I think that says it all.
Quote from: Trudie on November 25, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
No Cam was a divorced adulteress as well as her husband each breaking up the others marriages. The big issue was the church and succession so before anyone condemns Meghan for being divorced that would be the pot calling the kettle.
For God sake ... this is not about how bitter you are about things that happened 30 Years ago with people you don't even know ... this is about Harry and his flavor of the Month ... there is no point of you being here if you have no interest in having a conversation about THE TOPIC AT HAND ... her being divorced twice is more an issue in terms of her not being able to make a marriage work than anything else given that Harry is a MINOR Royal who bares no importance ...
Some of you really need to give it a rest and move on. Everyone gets it that you don't like that Harry is in a relationship with Meghan. But your objections wouldn't make a difference to Harry even if he knew about them. Harry is going to do what he
wants to do. He and Meghan have probably discussed all this, about what would happen if the story broke so they were ready. American black women are made of super strong stuff. She loves Harry and he loves her and they will not let anyone to interfere. Now just watch want I'm telling you!
A poster posted this in a recent post and I am going to back it up by posting it again:
"Harry can't win. He's better off pleasing himself and who cares what the population (who doesn't know her or him) thinks!"SPOT ON!
None of you have a say in Harry's choices.
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Quote from: Vesper on November 24, 2016, 05:34:50 AM
"Who cares what people think"
That sounds absolutely lovely, but unfortunately for Harry, he's a prince born into an institution funded by tax payers so he ought to be more mindful of the company he keeps. I want him to be happy as I'm sure everyone does, absolutely. But all he has to do is find someone with some discretion, a person who won't use him to advance her brand before they even get the chance to get to know each other. Someone who's family is not yapping on about his nephew and niece that has nothing to do with them. It's so inappropriate and tacky. Also, Kate has already set the bar really low so how hard can it be. I like Harry, I really do, and to me he's the best of the bunch, but he needs to get his personal life together. You mean to tell me he can't find a nice girl from Cornwall or wherever, come on...
This is Harry we are talking about...
And do you really think he cares about or would care what you have said above or if anyone agrees with you? No!
Quote from: Cat00 on November 24, 2016, 01:32:00 AM
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Why pitfalls? Is Harry by any chance an innocent kid? Meghan has flaws? Yes, everyone has. No one's good enough for Harry, if it depends on some people, he'll be single forever. People who judge others without knowing, it makes me tired! <_<
lol lol , with so many people on here with judgmental views, hope you are taking some Ensure or something...lol.. Personal judgmental views and opinions makes the flavor of the forum more tasty...IMO..
Prince Harry 'serious' about Meghan Markle after pursuing her by text (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/prince-harry-extremely-serious-meghan-markle-after-bombarding-her-texts-1589272)
This is Harry we are talking about...
And do you really think he cares about or would care what you have said above or if anyone agrees with you? No!
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You're correct in saying Harry wouldn't care what "anyone" thought of his love life (paraphrased), HOWEVER Her Majesty, the Grey suits and the Establishment that are PR for the monarchy, certainly do care...so eventually, IMO, he will tow the line...
These people think that saying bad things about Meghan will change what Harry feels about her. If he is in a serious relationship with her, then the fact that she is divorced, bi racial, American, actress ... doesn't matter to him, since he knows all of this. He likes her, the rest is blah blah blah :P
Since he's reading comments and getting all bothered by them, I would say yes, he does care a great deal. He wants to go the Andrew route, then he should go for it. This liaison just started and it's already a badly written soap opera. :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
Quote from: Vesper on November 25, 2016, 06:52:07 PM
Since he's reading comments and getting all bothered by them, I would say yes, he does care a great deal. He wants to go the Andrew route, then he should go for it. This liaison just started and it's already a badly written soap opera. :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
Don't even go there! It only bothers him when it comes to Meghan being attacked by racists comments etc.
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This is Harry we are talking about...
And do you really think he cares about or would care what you have said above or if anyone agrees with you? No!
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You're correct in saying Harry wouldn't care what "anyone" thought of his love life (paraphrased), HOWEVER Her Majesty, the Grey suits and the Establishment that are PR for the monarchy, certainly do care...so eventually, IMO, he will tow the line...
And if her Majesty had an issue with it, truly it would have ended by now. I would bet odds that Harry has already spoken to his grandmother and has been granted permission to propose to Meghan when he's ready and that she doesn't know that he's already gotten permission.
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He was annoyed by the offenses of the envious racists trolls. He didn't like to see his girlfriend being attacked, but that doesn't mean he will sway with what they think .... lolo lol :lol: :lol:
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He was annoyed by the offenses of the envious racists trolls. He didn't like to see his girlfriend being attacked, but that doesn't mean he will sway with what they think .... lolo lol :lol: :lol:
I am going to laugh my ass off if a wedding date is announced or even an engagement. And when she walks out of that church with the title of HRH I will laugh again with happiness for them and I told you so's for this forum.
His gf is a c-list celebrity. Give me a break. She knows how fame works.
Quote from: Yale on November 25, 2016, 08:00:42 PM
Quote from: Cat00 on November 25, 2016, 07:54:12 PM
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He was annoyed by the offenses of the envious racists trolls. He didn't like to see his girlfriend being attacked, but that doesn't mean he will sway with what they think .... lolo lol :lol: :lol:
I am going to laugh my ass off if a wedding date is announced or even an engagement. And when she walks out of that church with the title of HRH I will laugh again with happiness for them and I told you so's for this forum.
Honestly it would be only Harry's issue ... if he marries her good luck to him ... he will need it ... as for me ... I don't feel as strongly as you obviously do for my Day to change according to what stranger Harry does ...
Why wait? start laughing now!!! And guess what, I will die laughing too at an institution that will be turned into a reality show. The entertainment value will be endless for me.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/has-prince-harrys-efforts-to-protect-his-new-girlfriend-meghan-markle-the-clearest-sign-yet-that-hes-found-the-one/news-story/3ee2024d52318b6263c63ada67480ca8
(ftp://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/has-prince-harrys-efforts-to-protect-his-new-girlfriend-meghan-markle-the-clearest-sign-yet-that-hes-found-the-one/news-story/3ee2024d52318b6263c63ada67480ca8)
I especially like this statement:
"Anna Musson, etiquette expert and director of Good Manners Company, points out that Markle is used to a certain level of fame, is discreet, poised, accomplished and hasn't embarrassed herself in the past."
"She says the "divorcee" moniker is not an issue because Harry is only fifth in line to the throne, behind Princess Charlotte. In fact, Prince Charles, next in line to the throne, is both a divorcee and married to a divorcee.
"Like any marriage, the success of this relationship will come down to shared values, principles and lifestyles, and it seems they have this in spades," Musson says. While she believes the British class system leads to some elements of the press being "insidious" and "cruel", she points out that Prince Harry has always followed his own instincts.
"He cares less about public opinion and more about finding happiness with a woman he can marry and have a good life with," she says.
So will this end in marriage? And, if so, what sort of wedding might we expect?
Royal observers believe that at 32, the Prince is in love and ready to settle down. There is no reason why Markle shouldn't continue working, both as an actor and a humanitarian, although Musson believes any wedding would still be traditional.
"Meghan will stick with tradition and wear an off-white gown, as is the etiquette, though they may opt for a quieter wedding."
As she concludes, there is less pressure on them to provide an heir.
"For this reason, they will have the wedding they would like, rather than the obligatory large-scale affair."
^
Very cool! And I totally agree. Megan is perfect for. Harry. She is also safe, has life experience and seems to be a very strong woman :consoling1: :blowkiss:
Quote from: Eri on November 25, 2016, 04:10:37 PM
Quote from: Trudie on November 25, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
No Cam was a divorced adulteress as well as her husband each breaking up the others marriages. The big issue was the church and succession so before anyone condemns Meghan for being divorced that would be the pot calling the kettle.
For God sake ... this is not about how bitter you are about things that happened 30 Years ago with people you don't even know ... this is about Harry and his flavor of the Month ... there is no point of you being here if you have no interest in having a conversation about THE TOPIC AT HAND ... her being divorced twice is more an issue in terms of her not being able to make a marriage work than anything else given that Harry is a MINOR Royal who bares no importance ...
First off I am not bitter about what happened 30 years ago and yes you are right on one thing these are people I don't know and neither do you unless you are a flunky for the POW and Duchess. But you don't even know Harry or Meghan yet you are not shy about your bitter opinions regarding Harry and or Cressida. My whole point was you said wait till Charles gets his hands on Harry well my dear being divorced himself as well as his wife Meghans divorce is a moot point Charles was able to remain Heir despite it all Harry will never in all probability never see the throne. Charles wasn't deprived of his happiness so why should he deny Harry his if this is what he wants.
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Quote from: Yale on November 26, 2016, 12:49:29 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/has-prince-harrys-efforts-to-protect-his-new-girlfriend-meghan-markle-the-clearest-sign-yet-that-hes-found-the-one/news-story/3ee2024d52318b6263c63ada67480ca8
(ftp://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/has-prince-harrys-efforts-to-protect-his-new-girlfriend-meghan-markle-the-clearest-sign-yet-that-hes-found-the-one/news-story/3ee2024d52318b6263c63ada67480ca8)
I especially like this statement:
"Anna Musson, etiquette expert and director of Good Manners Company, points out that Markle is used to a certain level of fame, is discreet, poised, accomplished and hasn't embarrassed herself in the past."
"She says the "divorcee" moniker is not an issue because Harry is only fifth in line to the throne, behind Princess Charlotte. In fact, Prince Charles, next in line to the throne, is both a divorcee and married to a divorcee.
"Like any marriage, the success of this relationship will come down to shared values, principles and lifestyles, and it seems they have this in spades," Musson says. While she believes the British class system leads to some elements of the press being "insidious" and "cruel", she points out that Prince Harry has always followed his own instincts.
"He cares less about public opinion and more about finding happiness with a woman he can marry and have a good life with," she says.
So will this end in marriage? And, if so, what sort of wedding might we expect?
Royal observers believe that at 32, the Prince is in love and ready to settle down. There is no reason why Markle shouldn't continue working, both as an actor and a humanitarian, although Musson believes any wedding would still be traditional.
"Meghan will stick with tradition and wear an off-white gown, as is the etiquette, though they may opt for a quieter wedding."
As she concludes, there is less pressure on them to provide an heir.
"For this reason, they will have the wedding they would like, rather than the obligatory large-scale affair."
Happy someone else pointed out the obvious with Charles and Camilla I guess there are more bitter people like me. :lmao: :lmao:
It's funny that people who keep saying "how in love they are" ALSO don't know them personally anyway. So we are all equally speculating here and giving opinions based on our observations. And IMO, Harry's statement was rash & immature and he was manipulated into doing it. And if there's just any bit of truth into the latest articles, Prince William isn't happy about it. That letter from KP screams Entitlement !!!
Meghan is an American actress who is very very thirsty for attention. And w/ her past + her family, it won't be easy for her to get approval.
And if you think that the institution or the Queen doesn't care about people's approval and tradition, think again. Queen Elizabeth II has seen Monarchies fall and lost the people's respect in her lifetime. She's had to bear the scandals of her family and was hoping for a clean slate w/ this new generation. YES, they do care about their image & people's respect. I think William and Kate have been given leeway to have lesser work AS LONG as they stay together AND respectable. If you think Kate's past and family didn't go into consideration, think again.
The Queen has the last say, not Prince Charles. And why hasn't she said anything? well, maybe it hasn't been significant enough yet. Anyway, she's probably infuriated over how Meghan's social media seeking attention has overshadowed Harry's work tour.
and btw, please don't use the race card, I don't see anybody here using it aside from those who are in denial about Meghan's low popularity. Is race a factor? yes to some, I won't deny it. But from the comments here AND on British articles online , most are turned off because of Meghan's drama and attention seeking moves.
This whole thing have been deemed a reality soap opera BECAUSE of what she does plus Harry's stupid PR move (doesn't matter if she was a caucasian or asian or latina actress dating a prince). The premise itself is like a bad TV movie. And Meghan should've shut down her social media if she was serious about Harry at all. (I saw that comment so many times over articles, so I'm not the only one who thinks that for Meghan, she is more important than this "relationship")
I wonder if Meghan can be styled with her own name? I know that traditionally that is only for blood princesses but the Queen could give it to her.
HRH Princess Meghan of Wales?
I mean, William should not have issue with it as he is heir to the throne and Kate will be Queen.
You don't know how any of this works, do you?
Well others will know more on this so ill defer to them, but it seems lately that the married men in the RF are going more by Duke/Earl titles, so im guessing she would have a Duchess-type title. As for her being Princess Meghan of Wales, I doubt it.
The media may call her Princess Meghan like they sometimes call Kate, Princess Kate. But "Princess" and "of Wales" is usually reserved for the "properly" married direct heir to the throne. So unless something happens to Charles,William, George and Charlotte, Harry wont be the direct heir to the throne.
No, she'd be
Quote from: Yale on November 26, 2016, 03:37:42 AM
I wonder if Meghan can be styled with her own name? I know that traditionally that is only for blood princesses but the Queen could give it to her.
HRH Princess Meghan of Wales?
I mean, William should not have issue with it as he is heir to the throne and Kate will be Queen.
No she would only have two options and they would be HRH Princess Henry of Wales or HRH the Duchess of ______just like any other royal bride marrying into the BRF. The late Princess Alice was allowed to be styled in that manner only after the Queen's uncle the Duke of Gloucester had passed away. She would have been known as the Dowager Duchess of Gloucester otherwise.
Quote from: Yale on November 25, 2016, 08:00:42 PM
Quote from: Cat00 on November 25, 2016, 07:54:12 PM
^^
He was annoyed by the offenses of the envious racists trolls. He didn't like to see his girlfriend being attacked, but that doesn't mean he will sway with what they think .... lolo lol :lol: :lol:
I am going to laugh my ass off if a wedding date is announced or even an engagement. And when she walks out of that church with the title of HRH I will laugh again with happiness for them and I told you so's for this forum.
I like you like her but I will not count horses for wedding carriage yet. Certainly not with any relationship he had, similar thoughts regarding Cressida and this morning news by William, auch..he is perhaps the most moderate person of RF compared to Queen and Prince Charles, so I don't want to be a fly on the wall to know what they think about her. i guess they see it as a fling
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Quote from: TLLK on November 26, 2016, 05:59:58 AM
No, she'd be Quote from: Yale on November 26, 2016, 03:37:42 AM
I wonder if Meghan can be styled with her own name? I know that traditionally that is only for blood princesses but the Queen could give it to her.
HRH Princess Meghan of Wales?
I mean, William should not have issue with it as he is heir to the throne and Kate will be Queen.
No she would only have two options and they would be HRH Princess Henry of Wales or HRH the Duchess of ______just like any other royal bride marrying into the BRF. The late Princess Alice was allowed to be styled in that manner only after the Queen's uncle the Duke of Gloucester had passed away. She would have been known as the Dowager Duchess of Gloucester otherwise.
No one of royal wives were made a princess, unless they use husband's title Princess William..and you mistake Alice as Duchess with other royal born lady called Alice, who was a grand daughter of Queen Victoria, she was entitled to be called HRH Princess, she was Alice of Albany and she lived also up to 100. Princess Alice - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alice),_Countess_of_Athlone
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Quote from: Yale on November 26, 2016, 03:37:42 AM
I wonder if Meghan can be styled with her own name? I know that traditionally that is only for blood princesses but the Queen could give it to her.
HRH Princess Meghan of Wales?
I mean, William should not have issue with it as he is heir to the throne and Kate will be Queen.
She cannot use of Wales bcs she is not a daughter or wife of Prince of Wales. It will be reserved for Charlotte, she is still a princess Charlotte without any predicate bcs her father is not prince of Wales yet. Charlotte can be max Princess Charlotte of Cambridge using old patterns but Meghan even landing princess title on her own what will not happen, see Kate's case, will not be not of Wales. You need to check those facts of UK peerage and titles. She could be..if.if.iff I use many ifs..he marries her, of Wales linked with Meghan, Princess Henry of Wales, that's all
many if's.... and basically, she's like the 3rd or 4th or 5th wife of Harry that the tabloids have crowned. So I wouldn't bet on it.
And I don't think HRH and Princess are even remote possibilities...basically, I can imagine Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie would throw fits if even those are suggested.
If Meghan married Harry she'd certainly be an HRH. Harry's likely to get the Dukedom of Sussex on his wedding day, so Meghan would be HRH the Duchess of Sussex. All Royal brides take the status and styling of their husbands.
I actually like HRH Princess Henry of Wales. I like that better than HRH The Duchess of _________.
Didn't William want Kate be styled as Princess Catherine, and the Queen denied it, right?
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Quote from: Curryong on November 26, 2016, 03:19:53 PM
If Meghan married Harry she'd certainly be an HRH. Harry's likely to get the Dukedom of Sussex on his wedding day, so Meghan would be HRH the Duchess of Sussex. All Royal brides take the status and styling of their husbands.
I bet she becomes the most popular because she's different. Everyone is going to want to see her all the time etc, just like Harry's mother was.
Kate is not as popular as I thought she would have become.
Supposedly she refused, that was the story in the tabs. Maybe Will didn't think he was going to get a Royal Dukedom, which seems pretty ignorant as regards protocol if true. The only person in the BRF who became a Princess on marriage was Princess Michael of Kent and that was only because her husband, although a Prince, has no Royal peerage.
Quote from: Curryong on November 26, 2016, 03:19:53 PM
If Meghan married Harry she'd certainly be an HRH. Harry's likely to get the Dukedom of Sussex on his wedding day, so Meghan would be HRH the Duchess of Sussex. All Royal brides take the status and styling of their husbands.
Besides Sussex are there any other royal dukedoms besides Clarence? (Don't think that Clarence is on the table as an option.)
I can't wait for Harry and Meghan to get engaged and I think it will soon be the rest is blah blah blah... :lol:
lovely couple :hug: :hug:
Quote from: Cat00 on November 26, 2016, 05:08:51 PM
I can't wait for Harry and Meghan to get engaged
Yeah it will be soon probably 2017 fall or early 2018. Harry has never been this protective of a gf and by the paparazzi pics she is already living at KP. I think this is the girl and I'm super happy for him lol. :blowkiss:
All the jealous tweens who thought they'd marry him are having a mini breakdown as usual hahahahaha.
Who here is British and Happy for the couple?
Quote from: Yale on November 26, 2016, 06:07:37 PM
Who here is British and Happy for the couple?
Why do you want to know. I don't mind who is with him to be frank. On other hand, as we are both US, I hope she knows the min of facts like me, at least because it will be strict regime if he proposes.
William was quoted with his disapproval of public statement made by Harry and he said Meghan was behind that. There are also tabs and rags stories out how he already proposed to her, they keep it quiet and they plan two babies already. OK :Jen: :lol: :teehee:
If Harry becomes a Duke under Liz Edward should throw a fit ... under Chuck sure but not if he marries under Liz who denied her own son a Duke Title ... like no way Harry will be a Duke under Liz if Edward's Title is any indication ... Will is another story and Harry who bares no importance in the great scheme of things shouldn't be compared to William the future King ...
@Eri-I do believe that the plan is for Edward to ultimately inherit the Edinburgh title so in the end Edward will be a royal duke. Either QEII issues a Letters Patent or Charles chooses to bypass his father's title.
Here is an article on the subject.
Why Is Prince Edward An Earl, Not A Duke? – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/otherroyals/why-is-prince-edward-an-earl-not-a-duke-2259)
Quote from: lapalooza on November 26, 2016, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: Yale on November 26, 2016, 06:07:37 PM
Who here is British and Happy for the couple?
Why do you want to know. I don't mind who is with him to be frank. On other hand, as we are both US, I hope she knows the min of facts like me, at least because it will be strict regime if he proposes.
William was quoted with his disapproval of public statement made by Harry and he said Meghan was behind that. There are also tabs and rags stories out how he already proposed to her, they keep it quiet and they plan two babies already. OK :Jen: :lol: :teehee:
I was just curious is all. As for William, I like him but this is not his business. It's Harry's and he is an adult. Harry didn't consult Wills for his opinion so he should have stay quiet about it.
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This article from the Telegraph says William approved/agreed with the statement.
The Duke of Cambridge approved Prince Harry's plea to trolls to leave Meghan Markle alone (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/26/duke-cambridge-approved-prince-harrys-plea-trolls-leave-meghan/)
^^^I disagree. The article states that the two had a conversation about the situation so it appears that Harry wanted William's input.
Quote from: TLLK on November 27, 2016, 12:42:12 AM
^^^I disagree. The article states that the two had a conversation about the situation so it appears that Harry wanted William's input.
I am not debating this. Disagree if you wish. The article says that Prince William issued a statement to make it clear that what the Mirror said was not true. And the Telegraph is a very good news source. That is good enough for me.
The Mirror also printed an article about Prince Harry saying I love you to 54 year old in St Vincent and it was totally twisted to make it look like something else. Harry was being kind.
"William was quoted with his disapproval"
My god! Did anyone believe in the DM article? :o :o Of course it's a lie. "One well-placed Palace source told the Mail". Ridiculous! :happy17: :hehe:
The Telegraph isn't a tabloid but a serious broadsheet and is indeed a good news source. I'd believe them any day above the Daily Fairy Tales DM. The only thing the Daily Fail has going for it is its wonderful photos.
Once again the royal house keep showing their support for Megan, now William turn to denial the daily fail B.S. No matter what you all say this wedding is happening get used to it Megan. Either they get the balcony or Sanit George church this is happening I leave in U.K and I am
in London for my friends wedding.
All the gossip I keep hearing from
all the high society wall is this is going to happen, Some people at a bar from last night on my friend hen night said for the Queen and Charles to stay silent and not complain like they would if things are not going their way just like old time prove they approved and they are giving this a chance.
I even ask if Megan divorce was a issues everyone said not anymore because if it was the statement will never be allow for them to allowed harry to speak up show it more than a one off.
Also over the thanksgiving week in America I was told and show from a photo Megan mom and dad was seen in Canada with her, her parents had not being in the same room since they divorced. For her own parents to suddenly fly in to her now show something is brewing behind the scenes are they all going to fly Secertly to U.K . Megan did without no one knowing until the supermarket photo.
Harry does not return for another week are her parents going to stay with her until them? I am happy her parents put aside their differences to now support her in Canada. I cannot wait to see if they all end up here in U.K.🤔
Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 01:20:40 AM
Quote from: TLLK on November 27, 2016, 12:42:12 AM
^^^I disagree. The article states that the two had a conversation about the situation so it appears that Harry wanted William's input.
I am not debating this. Disagree if you wish. The article says that Prince William issued a statement to make it clear that what the Mirror said was not true. And the Telegraph is a very good news source. That is good enough for me.
The Mirror also printed an article about Prince Harry saying I love you to 54 year old in St Vincent and it was totally twisted to make it look like something else. Harry was being kind.
I believe we've misunderstood each other. Like you I'd believe the Telegraph over the Daily Mail and Daily Mirror.
Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 01:20:40 AM
Quote from: TLLK on November 27, 2016, 12:42:12 AM
^^^I disagree. The article states that the two had a conversation about the situation so it appears that Harry wanted William's input.
I am not debating this. Disagree if you wish. The article says that Prince William issued a statement to make it clear that what the Mirror said was not true. And the Telegraph is a very good news source. That is good enough for me.
The Mirror also printed an article about Prince Harry saying I love you to 54 year old in St Vincent and it was totally twisted to make it look like something else. Harry was being kind.
There is no official statement made by Prince William on behalf of the palace. You also see the reporter from The Telegraph is a part of Harry's tour, so it is certainly influenced by Harry but I don't think William said that. I read Harry started seeing Meghan bcs other girl called Margaret did not pay him attention. Quite funny gossip mill. It is one says this and other source said that...I just find interesting that Meghan was able to influence him to release that statement bcs any photos of them together still not exist, so it is only one proof they are together. Her publicity is quite silent after William's leaked opinion. I think it was something what RF expected. Apparently Harry get marching order to remote location to be parted away with Meghan, for army course. 6 months apart. Falklands or something like this, from January 2017.
Quote from: lapalooza on November 27, 2016, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 01:20:40 AM
Quote from: TLLK on November 27, 2016, 12:42:12 AM
^^^I disagree. The article states that the two had a conversation about the situation so it appears that Harry wanted William's input.
I am not debating this. Disagree if you wish. The article says that Prince William issued a statement to make it clear that what the Mirror said was not true. And the Telegraph is a very good news source. That is good enough for me.
The Mirror also printed an article about Prince Harry saying I love you to 54 year old in St Vincent and it was totally twisted to make it look like something else. Harry was being kind.
There is no official statement made by Prince William on behalf of the palace. You also see the reporter from The Telegraph is a part of Harry's tour, so it is certainly influenced by Harry but I don't think William said that. I read Harry started seeing Meghan bcs other girl called Margaret did not pay him attention. Quite funny gossip mill. It is one says this and other source said that...I just find interesting that Meghan was able to influence him to release that statement bcs any photos of them together still not exist, so it is only one proof they are together. Her publicity is quite silent after William's leaked opinion. I think it was something what RF expected. Apparently Harry get marching order to remote location to be parted away with Meghan, for army course. 6 months apart. Falklands or something like this, from January 2017.
The statement from KP stated categorically that he (Harry) had been dating Meghan for 'several' months. I'd say that was pretty firm proof that they are dating, photos or not.
What's more, with Harry having left the armed services for over 18 months now I will cheerfully bet my life savings that he won't be going away for five or six months anywhere, not to the Falklands or anywhere else in the New Year. He'll be in London and elsewhere in the UK performing royal duties, plus possibly still dating Meghan next year.
So, Meghan's parents flew in to see her for Thanksgiving and the two have not been in the same room together since their divorce? Wow! That is significant! And Harry returns next week and shortly after those head off for a romantic trip somewhere Top Secret.
Harry will need to meet and talk to her parents soon. And I just read that the PM privately asked Harry if he would bring Meghan to Antigua, if not for a honeymoon then for a holiday and Harry said he had no objection to the proposal.
I think this wedding is happening sooner that anyone thinks. They are both in their thirties and I thought I read that they want to start a family very soon after.
Harry could get her pregnant slightly before their wedding then she could still fit into her dress, enjoy the honeymoon, work some before she starts to show.
A few questions for you all:
1. Do you think the wedding will be televised?
2. Do you think Donald Trump will be invited? To me, he is one person who should not get an invitation. I hear she doesn't like him.
3. I also read that there is no reason she can't continue as an actress. What do you think?
4. I think Harry has already gotten permission from his grandmother to propose to Meghan whenever he's ready. What do you think?
Harry and Meghan have only been together a few months I believe given the unprecedented statement he knows she could be the one. I think Harry knowing his mothers story of dating his father a short time before the engagement and marriage may just be willing to wait a little longer so as to ease Meghan into a role as his wife. If Harry is smart he will turn to Sophie to help Meghan as they have much in common as Sophie was about the same age as Meghan when she married into the family and like Meghan had a career. Meghan isn't the problem in this relationship it is the vile people who feel it is their business to comment and judge a woman they don't know.
Here are my answers:
1. Yes I do believe it will be televised.
2. No I do not believe that the HoS from any nation with perhaps the exception of some Commonwealth nations will be invited to this wedding except for a few royals who might be considered close family friends of QEII or the PoW/Harry. AFAIK only the direct heir to the throne's wedding would see HoS being automatically issued an invitation. IMO this guest list will be a scaled down version of William's and perhaps more like the one for Edward and Sophie's wedding. Friends, family, army colleagues, and those associated with Harry's patronages are likely to be on the guest list as well as any people that his fiance would like to see present.
3. I think that she could continue but will choose not to do so.
4. IMO Harry would not have made the statement to the press without considering if his marriage could be approved as he still requires one.
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Quote from: Trudie on November 27, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
Harry and Meghan have only been together a few months I believe given the unprecedented statement he knows she could be the one. I think Harry knowing his mothers story of dating his father a short time before the engagement and marriage may just be willing to wait a little longer so as to ease Meghan into a role as his wife. If Harry is smart he will turn to Sophie to help Meghan as they have much in common as Sophie was about the same age as Meghan when she married into the family and like Meghan had a career. Meghan isn't the problem in this relationship it is the vile people who feel it is their business to comment and judge a woman they don't know.
:goodpost: I wholeheartedly agree. There is no need to rush anything. It would seem that those who had a longer courtship have had more stable marriages and an easier transition to royal life. Harry would be wise to request those who have married into the family ie: Sophie, Kate, to share their stories of how they adjusted to life in the BRF.
How unprecedented is the KP letter? Harry strongly defended Chelsy on an interview he did for his birthday. He called her all the sweet things. I mean that was a huge acknowlegement of her status as the official girlfriend. He has a history of being protective of his girlfriends. In this case the attacks also had a racist and sexist aspect, which made his appeal all the more necessary.
DM article said Meghan was involved. I've actually suspected that, the letter felt a bit too North American. She also studied International Relations, if she is still interested in politics, then she would be extra sensitive about those things. Harry imo would not have detected the sexism, I think that comes from Meghan. Also Harry having the ultimate white privilege is shocked at the racism or maybe extra sensitive that his mixed race girlfriend will be attacked by media who still mention Kate's mother's former profession to put her down.
I was very excited about this relationship, but I hope they don't move too fast. After a few weeks, I now have a few reservations about Meghan. She is used to playing the celebrity game, and let's not forget the rule of thumb for most actors/actresses, they are egotistical and attention seeking and I have been getting that from her. She loves to network with powerful people and flaunt those connections. Her family has not been discreet at all. Add to that the Americans' fascination with the BRF, i mean she will move from being a D-Lister to the top of the food chain. She already may have tiaras in her pupils, which is not good.
There is a need to rush since they want to start a family. She is 35 people! They want children. I don't see Harry waiting 2 or 3 years more to marry.
Well to be perfectly honest here India and Britain still are the biggest caste systems in the world. In this age it is ridiculous that someone is looked down on because of their social and economic circumstances. So Carole Middleton comes from humble beginnings and was a former air hostess she has shown more class then some of the so called Aristocrats. Meghan is an actress but she also gives back with her charity work no one is better then anyone else last time I looked every human comes into the world the same way, they eat,sleep and breathe the same way and die the same way natural or illness related so who is anyone to judge or think they are above someone else.
Can we have an actual picture of them together before marrying them off? :teehee: Are some for real? No way he will be allowed to marry this one ... especially not this fast ... if you ask me she will be never heard of again after Christmas when Liz and Chuck will be heard ... she got her marching orders the weekend she was in London and he refused to be seen with her if you ask me ...
There are people here obsessed with a photo ... :lol: :lol: :lol: I can bet that when a picture of Harry and Meghan comes together, Harry will not appear bored and discouraged as when he appeared alongside Cress :hi: :D
Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 05:10:00 PM
There is a need to rush since they want to start a family. She is 35 people! They want children. I don't see Harry waiting 2 or 3 years more to marry.
Yes bcs she is 35, she just decided to take prince instead of her bf chef of two years instead bcs prince is something better, so it means he has to marry her, she is 35 and he is the best provider. OMG I thought she is nice feminist :wub: :brightside: :teehee: :wacko: :windsor: :thumbsdown:
Harry and Meghan will appear together in public when they are ready!!!
Maybe they haven't to date because they won't have any peace, meaning they'll be a media circus around them at all times. They are probably tiring to get as much ALONE time has possible before their first appearance as a couple.
Quote from: Cat00 on November 08, 2016, 05:42:39 PM
Quote from: Vesper on November 08, 2016, 04:14:03 PM
I'm sorry, but I was hard on Cressida and this one is worse, far worse. I have no problem whatsoever with her ethnicity, I myself is a person of color, but a divorced actress with racy sex scenes all over the web... really, Harry? I'm out of here.
I don't know what the problem is with sex scenes. She is an actress, even consecrated actresses make sex scenes in movies these days. And being divorced is not a problem either. Harry's father and his uncles are too. :D
Perhaps some of us were hoping that Prince Harry would raise the bar and in doing so would help numb the damage his father did back in the 80's and 90's , to begin with -- Relating to events of 30 years ago,whatever the event was is now HISTORY and the current events , including Harry's girlfriends, will also become HISTORY, written about in many books.
The thought that Diana would marry Dodi and produce children ( brown skinned step siblings to , one future king and a prince) the establishment found a horrific thought.. IMO, one of 2 reasons, Diana was eliminated... Now her son is travelling a similar path and IMO, this romance will not be wanted by the British establishment and Monarchy. Prince Harry is too close to the throne, although he won't sit it...Just the thought of little George and Charlotte playing with Harry's dusky skinned cousins will not be welcome, even by those of us who have followed the Monarchy for (like myself) 50 years!. Had Harry tried to wed Chelsy back in the day, there would have been an uproar, because of the business her father was in.Would not be tolerated because of Animal protection groups. Just to say that the history and events of 30 years ago are quite relevant to events happening today.. ALL IMO, of course.. To recap MY views are this young lady is NOT British Monarchy material, 1. Because of her eithnic background , that she has been previously married and divorced, and she loves the limelight...BTW , please do not come back saying I am raciest. What I have stated is the reality of a situation.
I am not a fan. I had never heard of or watched " Suits" and I had never heard of Meghan Markle til the news broke that Prince Harry was dating her. I'm excited that she's American and half black. It is different and new. It's a breath of fresh air the vroyals needed. That family has been dull since Diana's death. No one cares about Camilla!.
And no, I don't intend to start watching Suits".
If the palace gave that statement on Harry's behalf, it's because the BRF already knows the relationship and approved. He would never assume a dating with a bi racial girl if his family cared about color or race
Quote from: Cat00 on November 27, 2016, 09:08:45 PM
If the palace gave that statement on Harry's behalf, it's because the BRF already knows the relationship and approved. He would never assume a dating with a bi racial girl if his family cared about color or race
I wish they had never got found out and revealed their relationship WHEN THEY WERE READY. Many are just being totally ridiculous and outrageous!! I am so sick of their crap!
Harry pursued her. She didn't pursue him. That is the first thing. Secondly, he is 32 years old and ready to marry and have kids. He would not pursued this relationship if his family would out right disapprove. He can't marry without the Queen's permission.
Harry issued a statement because of her and got emotional about it. She now has a bodyguard paid by him. There is no way he would do all these things if he was not in love.
I haven't watched Suits in a years and hadn't heard of Meghan either. That said I don't have any idea why she is being attacked because she is American and actress and happens to be bi racial. Harry appears to be falling deeply for her and I think everyone should be happy that he has found love. As I have said before Harry's marriage will have no effect on the monarchy and just because he is a Prince there is no reason he cannot fall in love with the woman of his choice.
I'm not a fan of Suits and I didn't even know Meghan, but I liked her, As I said, she's an independent, mature woman, makes her own money ... I did not like Harry's ex, for me they were rich girls it's futiles
Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
Harry and Meghan will appear together in public when they are ready!!!
Maybe they haven't to date because they won't have any peace, meaning they'll be a media circus around them at all times. They are probably tiring to get as much ALONE time has possible before their first appearance as a couple.
The whole thing is already a Circus ... of their own creation ... seems like a excuse to why he won't be seen with her in public to me ...
Is it possible that Prince Henry might take Meghan to a Christmas party or a Christmas ball?
Quote from: Eri on November 28, 2016, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
Harry and Meghan will appear together in public when they are ready!!!
Maybe they haven't to date because they won't have any peace, meaning they'll be a media circus around them at all times. They are probably tiring to get as much ALONE time has possible before their first appearance as a couple.
The whole thing is already a Circus ... of their own creation ... seems like a excuse to why he won't be seen with her in public to me ...
If I remember correctly it took Harry well over a year to be seen in public with Cressida.
^ Besides the fact he went to Afghanistan ... he was seen with her at the Batman (?) Premiere that is how the World knew about them ... he was seen with her since Day 1 and wasn't ashamed to take her out in public ... it's not my fault he won't be seen with Megan or Cressida's ... there are 0 sightings of Harry with this woman not even a Twitter one ... this is the weirdest relationship yet ... again not any one's fault :blink: ... Harry shoot himself in the foot for some he won't be seen in public with ... this is weird ... and I doubt he will ever be either ...
^ Perhaps the only thing weird this time around is she is the one and he is trying to keep things more private until They decide they want the world to see them together. Oh as for Cressida it was her that didn't want to really be seen with Harry she was the one who called time on the relationship after they were seen in public maybe twice.
Quote from: Trudie on November 29, 2016, 12:19:17 AM
Quote from: Eri on November 28, 2016, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
Harry and Meghan will appear together in public when they are ready!!!
Maybe they haven't to date because they won't have any peace, meaning they'll be a media circus around them at all times. They are probably tiring to get as much ALONE time has possible before their first appearance as a couple.
The whole thing is already a Circus ... of their own creation ... seems like a excuse to why he won't be seen with her in public to me ...
If I remember correctly it took Harry well over a year to be seen in public with Cressida.
IMO, there was absolutely no chemistry between Harry and Cressida... I recall they both coming off a train, from somewhere, he in the lead , but both a boring look...It was Eugenie York, who introduced them, and she was hoping there was a match.. Chelsy and Harry had more spark. They were a match for first loves, IMO..
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Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
Harry and Meghan will appear together in public when they are ready!!!
Maybe they haven't to date because they won't have any peace, meaning they'll be a media circus around them at all times. They are probably tiring to get as much ALONE time has possible before their first appearance as a couple.
Yale, whoever Prince Harry brings into his life, as his wife , be it this lady or someone still to be found, that young lady will be surrounded by the media. I was always looking a the European Princesses, hoping they might have been there for Harry..
There are very few Royal princesses of the same age as Harry around though. (As distinct from Prince Christian of Denmark for example who will have a wide choice if he wants to marry royalty in another fifteen/twenty years!) Those that are come from mainly Roman Catholic dynasties and yes I know that members of the BRF are allowed to marry Catholics now, but there are still religious hurdles to get over in such a union.
I believe Harry is reasonably friendly with young women from Protestant dethroned Houses in Germany, including some of his grandfather's relatives, but most have careers, and unless they're playing 'lady of the manor' on their father's estates they wouldn't be any more used to Royal life and duties than commoners.
Anyway, the era of Princes marrying fellow royalty has well and truly gone. If Harry met someone like Marie of Denmark, Prince Joachim's wife, it would be nice, but Harry will marry who he loves I guess, which is as it should be.
@Curryong-Absolutely correct that most of them are in Catholic monarchies:, Luxemboug, Lichtenstein, Belgium, or are members of the Hapsburg Imperial branches. Like you mentioned there still might be some religious hurdles to jump or the girls are just not interested in marrying into a high profile royal family.
Quote from: Trudie on November 29, 2016, 05:52:31 PM
^ Perhaps the only thing weird this time around is she is the one and he is trying to keep things more private until They decide they want the world to see them together. Oh as for Cressida it was her that didn't want to really be seen with Harry she was the one who called time on the relationship after they were seen in public maybe twice.
The why the statement? And why sis she rumored to have had an had in it? She is someone he would have never introduced to the World if you ask me ... she was very canning in forcing his hand into that ridiculous statement ... too bad he won't be caught dead with her in public though ...
^ The statement that speaks for it's self. Harry is well known and someone who spotted him near Meghan probably tipped off the press. The fact that she is bi racial and American is bringing out the Xenophobes much like those who still refer to PP as Phil the Greek. Why anyone cares about her heritage is beyond me she is beautiful and a hard worker. I'm sure there are many who would love to see Harry happy and in a committed relationship then a sad lonely figure being denied what he wants marriage and a family.
^ She comes with not one but many red flags ... she is out there in L.A posing on Instagram with her equally attention seeking friends while she should be laying low for one ... I can't see anyone who actually like Harry wanting him to marry this woman ... it would end in an Ocean of tears ...
^yeah and the Windsors also come with many red flags what's your point? It seems if unless you in particular happen to like a certain person from what you read about them the relationship is fine and we all know you are not a real fan of Harry's though it doesn't matter Yours is not the opinion he values.
Prince Harry Ditches Royal Family Holiday Tradition to Be With Girlfriend Meghan Markle in the U.S. (EXCLUSIVE) - In Touch Weekly (http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/prince-harry-meghan-markle-holidays-queen-elizabeth-119955)
Could this be true? I mean, unless Harry requested this before he left for his tour.
Quote from: Trudie on November 30, 2016, 09:23:22 PM
^yeah and the Windsors also come with many red flags what's your point? It seems if unless you in particular happen to like a certain person from what you read about them the relationship is fine and we all know you are not a real fan of Harry's though it doesn't matter Yours is not the opinion he values.
Harry hasn't done anything note worthy other than hit the genetic lottery for me to be a fan of his ... he would be a nobody if it wasn't for who his father is ... I will safe my admiration for someone worthy of it if you don't mind ... this man child doesn't ... as for his flavor of the Month ... if I was a fan of his I would worry ... she has made him quite unpopular ... his transformation into Andrew is complete ...
^ Yeah your totally right again Harry has done nothing note worthy. Sentable doesn't exist, two tours in Afghanistan didn't happen, charities don't get his support such as well child, animal groups, homelessness, wounded warriors the list goes on. Perhaps he his achievements are not note worthy to you because you have never helped in a charitable endeavor yourself you are trying to make yourself feel better?. IMO
Quote from: Trudie on November 30, 2016, 11:02:34 PM
^ Yeah your totally right again Harry has done nothing note worthy. Sentable doesn't exist, two tours in Afghanistan didn't happen, charities don't get his support such as well child, animal groups, homelessness, wounded warriors the list goes on. Perhaps he his achievements are not note worthy to you because you have never helped in a charitable endeavor yourself you are trying to make yourself feel better?. IMO
I agree with this post 100%, he content and why it was posted.
Quote from: Yale on November 30, 2016, 09:34:15 PM
Prince Harry Ditches Royal Family Holiday Tradition to Be With Girlfriend Meghan Markle in the U.S. (EXCLUSIVE) - In Touch Weekly (http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/prince-harry-meghan-markle-holidays-queen-elizabeth-119955)
Could this be true? I mean, unless Harry requested this before he left for his tour.
No, I don't believe it's true. The media is running out of things to say about this romance and have been making things up for some time. Look at the obscure rag this is appearing in. Harry seems to enjoy the extended family get-together at Sandringham for Christmas. He's always in high spirits on the Xmas walk to Church. I believes he's more of a traditionalist than his brother over this particular get-together. The couple haven't even been seen together yet. And I don't believe, even if/when they become engaged that Harry would opt for a Christmas away. After they're married (if it ever comes to that) perhaps, every now and again.
Quote from: Eri on November 30, 2016, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Trudie on November 30, 2016, 09:23:22 PM
^yeah and the Windsors also come with many red flags what's your point? It seems if unless you in particular happen to like a certain person from what you read about them the relationship is fine and we all know you are not a real fan of Harry's though it doesn't matter Yours is not the opinion he values.
Harry hasn't done anything note worthy other than hit the genetic lottery for me to be a fan of his ... he would be a nobody if it wasn't for who his father is ... I will safe my admiration for someone worthy of it if you don't mind ... this man child doesn't ... as for his flavor of the Month ... if I was a fan of his I would worry ... she has made him quite unpopular ... his transformation into Andrew is complete ...
He has two parents. Maybe he'd be just another royal if his mother was not Diana. I would not dismiss Meghan as a Flavor of the Month. I don't see this as making him more unpopular.
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Quote from: Eri on November 30, 2016, 02:41:26 PM
^ She comes with not one but many red flags ... she is out there in L.A posing on Instagram with her equally attention seeking friends while she should be laying low for one ... I can't see anyone who actually like Harry wanting him to marry this woman ... it would end in an Ocean of tears ...
Actually it's his business. I don't see "red flags" with her. Some royals come equipped with "red flags."
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Quote from: Eri on November 29, 2016, 05:43:39 PM
^ Besides the fact he went to Afghanistan ... he was seen with her at the Batman (?) Premiere that is how the World knew about them ... he was seen with her since Day 1 and wasn't ashamed to take her out in public ... it's not my fault he won't be seen with Megan or Cressida's ... there are 0 sightings of Harry with this woman not even a Twitter one ... this is the weirdest relationship yet ... again not any one's fault :blink: ... Harry shoot himself in the foot for some he won't be seen in public with ... this is weird ... and I doubt he will ever be either ...
Harry looked uncomfortable with Cressida, rushing ahead of her. Harry actually made a public statement that MEghan IS his girlfriend, something he never did with Cressida.
This Cressida girl is mute issue!! THEY are not together now! Some need to just accept it!!
I also think Cressida moved on and does not take this at all seriously. She and Harry are OVER and maybe she realized Harry was not that interested in the first place.
I really do not think Cressida was a good match for him.
I think Chelsy was a better match.
I think MM can be a good match.
Of course, speculation only. None if his girlfriends talked to the media or were habits/personalities, etc. were known by the media.
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Time will tell. I think MM is older and wants to settle down. I think PH is older and wants to settle down.
People their age group sort of stop dating around without establishing first off of the other is looking for causal or looking for possible long term..marriage...etc.
I think PH has done well being 3rd wheel with PW and PK. LOL!!!
I hope of MM s his one, and PH, her one, then I hope it last and I hope she get the support from TBT. She would need to move soon to TUK to really feel, see, live, under the pressure, fish bowl, read the nasty Brit press, everything.
Get immersed in the good, bad, ugly. Time.
If Harry wants to marry Meghan, he is going to do just that and we all know it. So if you don't like it, then lump it!!!
The Brits and everyone else can complain all they want. It won't change a thing nor prevent Harry from doing what he wants!
Quote from: Yale on December 01, 2016, 02:28:28 AM
This Cressida girl is mute issue!! THEY are not together now! Some need to just accept it!!
Yale as you are ardent fan of Meghan she is a fan of Cressida. It is not a war of gfs and fans right? So calm down! You aren't attacked for sheer pushy agenda and firm belief Harry will have to marry Meghan and they are done deal already. It was said about Cressida and they dated for longer time. If you push your agenda and I see it quite often online recently by Meghan fan crew, at least, have a respect and don't look so desperate and rude! :hmm: :eyes:
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Quote from: Yale on November 27, 2016, 08:20:39 PM
I am not a fan. I had never heard of or watched " Suits" and I had never heard of Meghan Markle til the news broke that Prince Harry was dating her. I'm excited that she's American and half black. It is different and new. It's a breath of fresh air the vroyals needed. That family has been dull since Diana's death. No one cares about Camilla!.
And no, I don't intend to start watching Suits".
You look very aggressive promoting Meghan and slashing anyone who does not share your point of view. Remember, Meghan is just a gf. Just a gf! Even as a wife, she is not royal born, she would be a married in! Like Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard, they were stumping their feet and behaved with threats to any critical voice and look on their destiny. It is just a forum so don't be so much involved in the life of some actress you have never met :hi: :orchid: :orchid:
@sandy If you don't see how Megan has made him unpopular you haven't been on the Internet ... but I think it has more to do with him being a lesser and lesser Royal as Kate continues to make him irrelevant and he continues to refuse to find an actual J.O.B while not performing his Royal duties ... Megan is just an excuse though ... the core issue here is Harry is a 30 something years old man who refuses to work or act like an adult in his private life throwing tantrums and acting on a whim and his outperformed in the J.O.B department by his 90 something grandfather ... that is why people finally have enough of him and he is now the new Andrew ... I wouldn't want to be Harry when the Court Circular with the annual duties performed by Royals is out and Harry is humiliated again by his grandparents ... and KATE :eyes: ...
Cressida B made Harry 'unpopular' as you call it with the moron Daily Fail commenters and Twitter crowd. And he recovered. He is no more unpopular than Willie boy. The two of them and the Queen come consistently in the top three royals for popularity in all the polling of the British public that has been done in the past ten years.
Newsflash, the Queen is 91 next year, Prince Philip 96. How long do you think they can keep going at their age? How many 100 year olds have you seen in public life?
Willie, Kate, Harry and the woman Harry marries will be performing full time Royal duties. The transition is on. It's been going on for about 18 months. William won't have an outside job, Kate won't have an outside job, Harry won't have an outside job and his wife won't have a part time job.
Harry will be a King's son in the next reign and will do full time Royal duties with his wife and his brother and sister in law in Charles's slimmed down monarchy which is coming.
In William's reign Harry, as the King's only sibling, will also be doing full time Royal duties as George will be going to university and then into the armed services, just like his father and will probably not be doing Royal duties until he's in his thirties, again like his father.
We don't know whether Charlotte will ever be a full time Royal. And if you think that the Royal family will be able to to everything with just William, Kate and George doing it all, I have a bridge to sell you! King William will need his only brother and his only brother's wife on duty, and George will probably need him too.
Well time will tell. PP was wasn't popular in the beginning himself making the Queen at times unpopular during her reign. PP has won the admiration of the people for his work and there is no reason to believe if Harry marries Meghan she too will win over people and keep Harry as one of the most popular royals.
^
Meghan unpopular just because half a dozen envious people with several different profiles are attacking her on the internet? In the instagran of her 99% are messages of praise. And if Harry wants to marry her, the opinion of these "deluded" people will not matter.
^^^ Again it's not Cressida's or Megan's fault Harry has become less and less popular in this past two/three Years ... again ... the issue here is he refuses to find a J.O.B or be a full time Royal all while dating unsuitable women and putting ignorant statements out there ... that is what is transforming him in the new Andrew right now ...
Harry never liked Cressida, only blind not to notice. He always seemed bored next to her, "fed up" and she was never popular. She is dull, has no charisma, is uninteresting ... so much that she is always alone, can't maintain a relationship with anyone :thumbsdown:
Quote from: Eri on December 01, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
^^^ Again it's not Cressida's or Megan's fault Harry has become less and less popular in this past two/three Years ... again ... the issue here is he refuses to find a J.O.B or be a full time Royal all while dating unsuitable women and putting ignorant statements out there ... that is what is transforming him in the new Andrew right now ...
He's not in the least the new Andrew. Being a member of a royal family doesn't rely on popularity contests. Nevertheless, as I put in my post, you are ignoring every poll done by YouGov and other reputable companies that have placed him William and the Queen in the top three of popular royals in poll after poll. There's a bit of a difference between that and the Twitter crowd. Anyone can say anything on the Internet.
As I already explained before, Charles and his sons and their wives are going to be centrepieces in the new slimmed down monarchy of King Charles. William is stopping his ambulance piloting within months as soon as his contract is finished (and he's hardly ever there anyway.) When he was in Canada on tour was he also doing his job with EAAA, his job!! Kate doesn't have a full time job. Harry, like them, will be a full time Royal, as will his wife.
His grandparents aren't going to go on for ever, unfortunate though that is. And then the younger generation of royals will take over FULL TIME Royal duties.
I'd like you to explain to me how a person would be able to have a full time outside job and also be available to go on Royal tours, of which Harry's done two this year. Incidentally, at the end of the year his engagement numbers will be above Kate's because of the Caribbean tour.
Quote from: Eri on December 01, 2016, 12:20:43 PM
@sandy If you don't see how Megan has made him unpopular you haven't been on the Internet ... but I think it has more to do with him being a lesser and lesser Royal as Kate continues to make him irrelevant and he continues to refuse to find an actual J.O.B while not performing his Royal duties ... Megan is just an excuse though ... the core issue here is Harry is a 30 something years old man who refuses to work or act like an adult in his private life throwing tantrums and acting on a whim and his outperformed in the J.O.B department by his 90 something grandfather ... that is why people finally have enough of him and he is now the new Andrew ... I wouldn't want to be Harry when the Court Circular with the annual duties performed by Royals is out and Harry is humiliated again by his grandparents ... and KATE :eyes: ...
Prince Charles made it clear Harry will be part of his scaled down monarchy. It is going to take about 20 years for George and Charlotte to be able to contribute to royal duties. William is the one who should be taking up duties since he is directly in line. Why does he not think that it's bad for his granddad to outperform him? He's the one who should be embarrassed. who are the "people" who have enough of him? You don't speak for all.
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Quote from: Eri on December 01, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
^^^ Again it's not Cressida's or Megan's fault Harry has become less and less popular in this past two/three Years ... again ... the issue here is he refuses to find a J.O.B or be a full time Royal all while dating unsuitable women and putting ignorant statements out there ... that is what is transforming him in the new Andrew right now ...
Why are you assuming he's less popular? He seems popular now.
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Quote from: Curryong on December 01, 2016, 01:43:51 PM
Cressida B made Harry 'unpopular' as you call it with the moron Daily Fail commenters and Twitter crowd. And he recovered. He is no more unpopular than Willie boy. The two of them and the Queen come consistently in the top three royals for popularity in all the polling of the British public that has been done in the past ten years.
Newsflash, the Queen is 91 next year, Prince Philip 96. How long do you think they can keep going at their age? How many 100 year olds have you seen in public life?
Willie, Kate, Harry and the woman Harry marries will be performing full time Royal duties. The transition is on. It's been going on for about 18 months. William won't have an outside job, Kate won't have an outside job, Harry won't have an outside job and his wife won't have a part time job.
Harry will be a King's son in the next reign and will do full time Royal duties with his wife and his brother and sister in law in Charles's slimmed down monarchy which is coming.
In William's reign Harry, as the King's only sibling, will also be doing full time Royal duties as George will be going to university and then into the armed services, just like his father and will probably not be doing Royal duties until he's in his thirties, again like his father.
We don't know whether Charlotte will ever be a full time Royal. And if you think that the Royal family will be able to to everything with just William, Kate and George doing it all, I have a bridge to sell you! King William will need his only brother and his only brother's wife on duty, and George will probably need him too.
I think Charlotte would and should be a full time royal. She's the "spare" and "spares" do contribute. A royal Princess after generations of senior royal Princes would be a refreshing change. Charlotte should be doing full time duties.
Quote from: Eri on December 01, 2016, 12:20:43 PM
@sandy If you don't see how Megan has made him unpopular you haven't been on the Internet ... but I think it has more to do with him being a lesser and lesser Royal as Kate continues to make him irrelevant and he continues to refuse to find an actual J.O.B while not performing his Royal duties ... Megan is just an excuse though ... the core issue here is Harry is a 30 something years old man who refuses to work or act like an adult in his private life throwing tantrums and acting on a whim and his outperformed in the J.O.B department by his 90 something grandfather ... that is why people finally have enough of him and he is now the new Andrew ... I wouldn't want to be Harry when the Court Circular with the annual duties performed by Royals is out and Harry is humiliated again by his grandparents ... and KATE :eyes: ...
I do that because so many attack her for no reason. Secondly, I love the fact that she is American and biracial.
^ And some like her for NO reason ... just like it happens with EVERY public figure out there ... not everyone is going to like her or have rational reason to why ... just ask poor Cressida ...
Poor Cressida? Maybe she herself does not feel she is to be pitied. She moved on most likely. Harry though spoke publicly about Meghan as his girlfriend, he did not do the same for Cressida. Maybe Harry and Cressida realized they were not right for each other which is only sensible.
Harry returns on Sunday. I wonder where he is taking her on this romantic trip he has planned? I read that they are leaving almost as soon as he gets back. They'll be gone a week.
-I agree with everyone or parts of their posts.
-PH YES will marry who he wants.
-PH is popular and not lazy. He and PW and PK NEED to take on more duties or duties from PP and QEII. YES, PP and QEII still need duties, but t their age, they do a duty a day.
-BRF amoung their subjects, Commonwealth depends on each member's popularity , mystery behind the palace walls, and being seen out there by their subjects.
--Some of you like Cressida. Fine. He wanted to be an actress and a woman cannot be an actress and PH's wife. He did not want her...um, EVER THOUGHT SHE DID NOT want him either. They dated. Dated for a while. Broke it off and each went on their ways. Pics after of Cressida shows a girl who moved on with her life and career.
Chelsy said she did not want the job. She moved on.
-BRF is most dominate RF or well know . PH cannot marry a , goodness 5 th, 6th, cousins. Marrying ehhh? Weird. QVictoria has descendents in every European RF so it has been said.
PH is not related to MM.
-Some of you are all for MM for whatever reasons just like some of you still do not agree with K as PW 's choice.
--MM, think , looking t it, the bodyguard hired, the press release, might be serious as in marriage...things already discussed. TBRF do not do that until . K never got that. Diana and Fergie never got tht until.
Yes, it was PH 's release, but TPTB still had to know, approve that message. Yes, PH is paying for the bodyguard. I thought the bodyguard was while MM is in England. Does he have her with a bodyguard while she is in Canada or The USA too? Hmmm.. That is extreme.
• Bi-racial. Does not matter to me. PH issued that statement because of the ugly things being said about MM. That shows he took a special measure. He nor any other BRF man did this.
If he marries MM, fine. M only comment is that she will have the hardest time of it. She will need H and TPTB to be clear with her on her chosen life and duties and expectations and keeping the nasty American press away from her and bad British press. What I mean is in Black America? Is she woke? Princess M, is she a sellout? Why and is the ODR a matter of personal choice ? Black Congressional Caucus extends an invitation to M, Duchess of Sussex.
Princess M declines invitation to yet another HBCU as guest commencement speaker. Black community leaders in Compton asks native daughter, MM, Duchess of Sussex to support Boys/Girls Club there. Ans. from Buckingham Palace was a "thoughtful decline." What is MM, Princes comments on BLM ?
The list folks goes on and on here. Oh , one last one personal and unreal for her would no way no how could she and her kids visit her mother at her mother's home in Compton. It would B Nat. Security in a high crime area but crazy terriosts, etc. Even K's folks moved to a more secluded manor. Their other home was not in a high crime place, but still. They moved. They have big security by TOTB when the BRF (PW and family ) are there. They might have security at their Midds' Manor all the time. It is not a high crime area, but you have religious zealots and crazy Brits to contend with .YES, who knows if PW gave them money. Maybe PH will buy a home in a gated Calabassas , Hidden Hills for M-in-L. M, Duchess sister gives interview to American journalist________ of how she has not helped her wheelchair bound sister et she is patron of many places in GB for the disabled. Seriously, MM has a half –sister who is wheel chair confined and this girl ahs already out of the gate given an interview saying that M does not support her...that MM turned her back on her. I do not know how the girl got confined to a wheelchair or how close they were or why she feels MM should support her FINANCIAL and for life.
That is my only point abut him marrying MM. She needs to know, see, understand, learn, see it up close. Live in for a bit before they get married. . K had years to learn from the sidelines and she still faltered in some ways. Their life is so easy in a sense , then not in another sense
Prince Harry, the HIV counsellor and some very awkward questions about Royal sex lives (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/01/prince-harry-rihanna-take-hiv-test-public/)
By Harry's reactions in this article one could think he was afraid to answer such questions. I wonder if he and Meghan are having sex or are they waiting?
Quote from: Yale on December 01, 2016, 10:15:01 PM
Prince Harry, the HIV counsellor and some very awkward questions about Royal sex lives (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/01/prince-harry-rihanna-take-hiv-test-public/)
By Harry's reactions in this article one could think he was afraid to answer such questions. I wonder if he and Meghan are having sex or are they waiting?
Ummm, lets just say they are 32 and 35. :consoling1:
The questions, ehhhhhh, :happy17: I have to check out that link. I hope he just said he cannot answer questions due to protocol or had one of his staff say so. BRF does not equal celebrityville for them and their sujbects. Entertainers they would gladly do a show and tell. Forget about answering questions, LOL!!! :teehee:
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Quote from: Yale on November 25, 2016, 05:28:20 PM
Some of you really need to give it a rest and move on. Everyone gets it that you don't like that Harry is in a relationship with Meghan. But your objections wouldn't make a difference to Harry even if he knew about them. Harry is going to do what he
wants to do. He and Meghan have probably discussed all this, about what would happen if the story broke so they were ready.
American black women are made of super strong stuff.
She loves Harry and he loves her and they will not let anyone to interfere. Now just watch want I'm telling you!
A poster posted this in a recent post and I am going to back it up by posting it again:
"Harry can't win. He's better off pleasing himself and who cares what the population (who doesn't know her or him) thinks!"
SPOT ON!
None of you have a say in Harry's choices.
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Quote from: Vesper on November 24, 2016, 05:34:50 AM
"Who cares what people think"
That sounds absolutely lovely, but unfortunately for Harry, he's a prince born into an institution funded by tax payers so he ought to be more mindful of the company he keeps. I want him to be happy as I'm sure everyone does, absolutely. But all he has to do is find someone with some discretion, a person who won't use him to advance her brand before they even get the chance to get to know each other. Someone who's family is not yapping on about his nephew and niece that has nothing to do with them. It's so inappropriate and tacky. Also, Kate has already set the bar really low so how hard can it be. I like Harry, I really do, and to me he's the best of the bunch, but he needs to get his personal life together. You mean to tell me he can't find a nice girl from Cornwall or wherever, come on...
This is Harry we are talking about...
And do you really think he cares about or would care what you have said above or if anyone agrees with you? No!
------------"American black women are made of super strong stuff."------------
This is very stereotypical . It is not a complement nor is it true. It is a back handed complement. Bllck Amer. women are no stronger than White Amer women, Chinese Amer. women, etc.
What I have been posting about MM having it really hard and needing more support from TPTB and PH , way more so than K had and MM being protected from American press and Brit is proven by your post.
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on December 01, 2016, 11:07:51 PM
Quote from: Yale on December 01, 2016, 10:15:01 PM
Prince Harry, the HIV counsellor and some very awkward questions about Royal sex lives (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/01/prince-harry-rihanna-take-hiv-test-public/)
By Harry's reactions in this article one could think he was afraid to answer such questions. I wonder if he and Meghan are having sex or are they waiting?
Ummm, lets just say they are 32 and 35. :consoling1:
The questions, ehhhhhh, :happy17: I have to check out that link. I hope he just said he cannot answer questions due to protocol or had one of his staff say so. BRF does not equal celebrityville for them and their sujbects. Entertainers they would gladly do a show and tell. Forget about answering questions, LOL!!! :teehee:
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Quote from: Yale on November 25, 2016, 05:28:20 PM
Some of you really need to give it a rest and move on. Everyone gets it that you don't like that Harry is in a relationship with Meghan. But your objections wouldn't make a difference to Harry even if he knew about them. Harry is going to do what he
wants to do. He and Meghan have probably discussed all this, about what would happen if the story broke so they were ready.
American black women are made of super strong stuff.
She loves Harry and he loves her and they will not let anyone to interfere. Now just watch want I'm telling you!
A poster posted this in a recent post and I am going to back it up by posting it again:
"Harry can't win. He's better off pleasing himself and who cares what the population (who doesn't know her or him) thinks!"
SPOT ON!
None of you have a say in Harry's choices.
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Quote from: Vesper on November 24, 2016, 05:34:50 AM
"Who cares what people think"
That sounds absolutely lovely, but unfortunately for Harry, he's a prince born into an institution funded by tax payers so he ought to be more mindful of the company he keeps. I want him to be happy as I'm sure everyone does, absolutely. But all he has to do is find someone with some discretion, a person who won't use him to advance her brand before they even get the chance to get to know each other. Someone who's family is not yapping on about his nephew and niece that has nothing to do with them. It's so inappropriate and tacky. Also, Kate has already set the bar really low so how hard can it be. I like Harry, I really do, and to me he's the best of the bunch, but he needs to get his personal life together. You mean to tell me he can't find a nice girl from Cornwall or wherever, come on...
This is Harry we are talking about...
And do you really think he cares about or would care what you have said above or if anyone agrees with you? No!
------------"American black women are made of super strong stuff."------------
This is very stereotypical . It is not a complement nor is it true. It is a back handed complement. Bllck Amer. women are no stronger than White Amer women, Chinese Amer. women, etc.
What I have been posting about MM having it really hard and needing more support from TPTB and PH , way more so than K had and MM being protected from American press and Brit is proven by your post.
"American women are made of super strong stuff"
I stand by what I said in that post. And it is indeed a complement in my view. And news articles have said the same thing too. That Meghan is tougher than most people think, that she is made up of tougher stuff than his past GF's in order to withstand the pressures of all this.
Yes, I can go the " American women being made of strong stuff." That is more general. Yes, generally speaking, American women , being in a larger country, a republic country with a democratic system, etc., yes , I can see that statement true.
Yes, media her and people, including Black people like saying, Blck women are strong women because they always had to be ...ar the backbone of their families...
It is : myth, stereotypical, unfair, not true, ugly, racists, offensive and more. YES, Blacks like saying this and they do not understand that is not true and is not a complement.
Everytime some of them say something about Blck women like at conferences, sorority things, etc. they always say "Strong Black Women" as if they are complementing themselves.
You said, "strong stuff." Like what ? Kyrptonite!! What???!!!????!! Made of what? Supersonic blood!
For Blcks who say this, same thing. Strong how. Taking further, they are usually referring to being a single mom and raising family . What is there storing about that? Nothing.
They often refer to women who had multiple kids, multiple jobs? There is nothing strong about being breadwinner, head of household and doing it alone without the partner/father and one set of kids.
Proof-Social problems are mainly because of lack of father in household...etc.
This phrase goes right along with the nasty, stereotypical big Black man-endowed...like a gorilla, in other words, hung like a horse.
That is NOT a complement nor is it true.
Some Blck people lovelove saying that stereotype too. It does not make it cute, funny, etc.
I know you are standing by your statement there . Like I said and I agree with you, Amer. media says it and even Black people say it.
What you said, brings it back to proof about my post if PH marries MM, then TPTB, OH, will have to really protect ad support her and make sure she understands her from the nasty Brit press and American press and Black American press with all of their stupid claims they will want to make on this girl who does not belong to them. She would belong to herself, her husband , her children and her country, TUK and The Commonwealth. Her life would be there and not here to accept an award at the NAACP Image Awards. her life and duties are apolitical and are there and not here. The Black media will bombard this poor girl.
It doesn't seem she is made of "hard stuff" to me ... she made Harry put that ignorant statement out there whining about things I haven't seen her suffer from ... she is either a whiner who can't take the heat or an attention seeker who knows using the "race card" is the only way she can get Harry's attention ... too bad he won't be caught dead in public with her though ...
^ Well lets go back in history here a bit Eri Diana was never seen in public with Charles pre engagement either yet he still married her now didn't he?
^
And who said she was the one who asked Harry to make that statement to defend her? Harry took that attitude because he loves her and wanted to protect her from the press and the trolls. Yeah Sure that she needs something to get her attention. :lol: :lol: :lol: Clearly he is very involved with her and wanted to protect her what he never did with any girlfriend
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And in relation to her sister in a wheelchair, we can not judge because we don't know the real story. Her sister has already proven to be envious, vindictive, bitter and opportunistic, so...
Quote from: Trudie on December 02, 2016, 01:20:32 PM
^ Well lets go back in history here a bit Eri Diana was never seen in public with Charles pre engagement either yet he still married her now didn't he?
In the age of Twitter and Instagram? Really? He has never been even sighted with her ... ever ... that is weird to say the least ... doesn't seem like someone he is very involved with to me ...
QuotePrince Harry receives declaration of love on Caribbean tour as Prince William comments on Meghan Markle statement
Prince Harry's appeal is certainly far-reaching! The 32-year-old came face-to-face with one of his biggest female fans during a visit to Vermont Village in Saint Vincent on Saturday, as part of his two-week-long tour of the Caribbean. Avis Collins, 54, couldn't contain her excitement as she met with the royal. "Love you," she exclaimed, smiling and holding his hand, to which Harry reciprocated, "Love you!" According to the Mirror, which shared a video of the exchange, Avis also asked one of their reporters to give her phone number to the charming prince.
Of course, Avis is sadly out of luck; Harry confirmed his romance with American actress Meghan Markle in an official – and unprecedented – statement released on 8 November.
Read more:
Prince Harry receives declaration of love in Saint Vincent (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016112834882/prince-harry-declaration-of-love-fan-caribbean-tour/)
^^
George Clooney is as famous as Harry and he was only seen with his current wife, 1 year after the beginning of the dating and soon after he gave the ring to her and in a few months they were married. This is what will happen to Harry and Meghan :hug: :hug:
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The funniest thing is that Harry assumed over for the whole world that is dating her. Why would he do it if it was just a simple affair? For me who keeps saying that they are not together, or want to irritate or have mental problems :wacko:
So they haven' been seen in public together she lives in Canada he in London. While Meghan was in London Harry was busy making appearances at Remembrance ceremonies Meghan is not engaged yet to him so her attendance wasn't required. Oh and Eri back in the day the print papers were in overtime trying to get pictures of Charles and Diana together no twitter or social media required. Harry and Meghan will become public when they want to not because you are demanding it Eri.
Quote from: Eri on December 02, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
It doesn't seem she is made of "hard stuff" to me ... she made Harry put that ignorant statement out there whining about things I haven't seen her suffer from ... she is either a whiner who can't take the heat or an attention seeker who knows using the "race card" is the only way she can get Harry's attention ... too bad he won't be caught dead in public with her though ...
I don't see her as using the race card. Her ethnic background is known and is part of her biography. Harry is interested in her and cares for her. He made a public statement about her indicating she is his girlfriend. Hardly a sign that he does not like her. He would rush ahead of Cressida and never publicly referred to her as GF.
Quote from: sandy on December 02, 2016, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Eri on December 02, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
It doesn't seem she is made of "hard stuff" to me ... she made Harry put that ignorant statement out there whining about things I haven't seen her suffer from ... she is either a whiner who can't take the heat or an attention seeker who knows using the "race card" is the only way she can get Harry's attention ... too bad he won't be caught dead in public with her though ...
I don't see her as using the race card. Her ethnic background is known and is part of her biography. Harry is interested in her and cares for her. He made a public statement about her indicating she is his girlfriend. Hardly a sign that he does not like her. He would rush ahead of Cressida and never publicly referred to her as GF.
it is true :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Trudie on December 02, 2016, 03:45:11 PM
So they haven' been seen in public together she lives in Canada he in London. While Meghan was in London Harry was busy making appearances at Remembrance ceremonies Meghan is not engaged yet to him so her attendance wasn't required. Oh and Eri back in the day the print papers were in overtime trying to get pictures of Charles and Diana together no twitter or social media required. Harry and Meghan will become public when they want to not because you are demanding it Eri.
You are making my point though ... those two are hardly at the same place at the same time ... the whole Summer he traveled and was in Africa while according to her Instagram she never was in London ... the story now is they got together in September but the issue with that is that she wasn't in London in September again according to her Instagram and if that is true Liz won't certainly allow him to marry someone he meet in September ... some are being absurd ... if he is ever seen with this woman I am willing to change my name into Jennifer Lopez ... as for Cressida she didn't need a statement the man was proud to be seen with her in public at public events one of them being what he calls "work" ... Megan is still to top that ...
Instagram isn't always a good tell of where a person is at a particular time. Famous people especially sometimes wait a while to post things just so strangers don't know their whereabouts.
I read that they have been together since June and they could have gotten together anywhere under the radar not just Canada or London Meghan has done charity work in Africa as well it is possible they spent some part of the summer there so Eri your speculation is moot IMO both have the resources to travel where ever they want to spend time alone together.
^ June , September ... it doesn't matter ... something tells me he won't see her ever again let alone anything else that will never happen ... Harry will spend the Holidays with Chuck, Liz , Will and Kate ... Megan is through ...
Harry and Meghan were spotted together at Soho House in Gloucestershire in June, the first time they were seen together by people not in their circle. It was just after Piers Morgan caught up with Meghan for drinks and a chat in London. (They had been Twitter buddies for some time after Meghan followed him on his Twitter Page and agreed on his stance on guns in the US.) Piers later congratulated himself on knowing Meghan in a piece in a London newspaper. IMO Camilla Tominey, (the journalist who broke the Harry/Meghan romance story), heard rumours of this UK visit and a subsequent visit to the US by Harry in the July and investigated further.
I believe Harry is very fond of his family and will spend Xmas with them all at Sandringham. As for he and Meghan being through, not one journalist travelling with him on the Caribbean tour believes that's so or has come out and said so. Most are plumping for them taking a holiday break together in December.
Quote from: Eri on December 02, 2016, 05:57:28 PM
Quote from: Trudie on December 02, 2016, 03:45:11 PM
So they haven' been seen in public together she lives in Canada he in London. While Meghan was in London Harry was busy making appearances at Remembrance ceremonies Meghan is not engaged yet to him so her attendance wasn't required. Oh and Eri back in the day the print papers were in overtime trying to get pictures of Charles and Diana together no twitter or social media required. Harry and Meghan will become public when they want to not because you are demanding it Eri.
You are making my point though ... those two are hardly at the same place at the same time ... the whole Summer he traveled and was in Africa while according to her Instagram she never was in London ... the story now is they got together in September but the issue with that is that she wasn't in London in September again according to her Instagram and if that is true Liz won't certainly allow him to marry someone he meet in September ... some are being absurd ... if he is ever seen with this woman I am willing to change my name into Jennifer Lopez ... as for Cressida she didn't need a statement the man was proud to be seen with her in public at public events one of them being what he calls "work" ... Megan is still to top that ...
Proudly seen with her? I disagree with that, he looked uncomfortable rushing ahead. In some photos she looked ticked off with him. I think Cressida would not have minded having Harry call her his girlfriend.
Quote from: Curryong on December 02, 2016, 11:44:57 PM
Harry and Meghan were spotted together at Soho House in Gloucestershire in June, the first time they were seen together by people not in their circle. It was just after Piers Morgan caught up with Meghan for drinks and a chat in London. (They had been Twitter buddies for some time after Meghan followed him on his Twitter Page and agreed on his stance on guns in the US.) Piers later congratulated himself on knowing Meghan in a piece in a London newspaper. IMO Camilla Tominey, (the journalist who broke the Harry/Meghan romance story), heard rumours of this UK visit and a subsequent visit to the US by Harry in the July and investigated further.
I believe Harry is very fond of his family and will spend Xmas with them all at Sandringham. As for he and Meghan being through, not one journalist travelling with him on the Caribbean tour believes that's so or has come out and said so. Most are plumping for them taking a holiday break together in December. :goodpost:
Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle wraps up for grocery run in Toronto | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3996216/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-wraps-warm-grocery-run-Toronto-finishes-Caribbean-tour.html)
What is she doing in Canada? The recordings of the "Suits" are over. Will Harry find her there in the next few days? :wink:
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Proudly seen with Cressida? :blank: :blank:This photo proves otherwise :lol: :lol: :lol: :hehe: :hehe:.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/24/article-2347677-1A7A4603000005DC-408_634x522.jpg
By the way, Cressida is so elegant, walks scratching her private parts :lol: :lol: :lol:
^ It seems she is wearing Harry's cloths as they stayed over night at the wedding they were attending and she wasn't prepared ... that seems to be the issue not her touching anything ... I wouldn't get into a competition with Cressida as Megan would loose hands down as say whatever you want but the man was willing to be photographed with her for two Years while I doubt he will be ever seen with Megan ... Megan is his transition girl indicating he is willing to have a serious girlfriend ... that serious girlfriend will be a younger version of Cressida/Chelsy and he will be actually be seen with her in public or at least be sighted with her by someone in the area of Instagram and Twitter ...
^ Actually they look like her own clothes not his and she isn't all the happy to be seen with him at least he has a smile.
Quote from: Eri on December 03, 2016, 08:31:53 PM
^ It seems she is wearing Harry's cloths as they stayed over night at the wedding they were attending and she wasn't prepared ... that seems to be the issue not her touching anything ... I wouldn't get into a competition with Cressida as Megan would loose hands down as say whatever you want but the man was willing to be photographed with her for two Years while I doubt he will be ever seen with Megan ... Megan is his transition girl indicating he is willing to have a serious girlfriend ... that serious girlfriend will be a younger version of Cressida/Chelsy and he will be actually be seen with her in public or at least be sighted with her by someone in the area of Instagram and Twitter ...
There are no "winners" or "losers" here. Harry and Cressida broke up. They both moved on. Meghan and Harry are dating. You can't state as fact that she is his "transition" girl. I don't think Cressida would think that photograph of them together is "romantic." He walks ahead of her, again.
I think we should forget about Cressida, obviously Harry never liked her, just the way he treated her ... it was almost a scorn. It was just a pastime and I think, today he not even remember that her exists. Only a few blind fans still dream that He one day return to her. His girlfriend today is Meghan.
@ Cat there was absolutely no chemistry, with Cressida and Harry every picture I saw of them together both looked totally uncomfortable unlike during his relationship with Chelsy or Flee.
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Yes it's true! With Chelsy it was different, we realized that there was feeling of both parts and also chemistry :)
Quote from: Cat00 on December 04, 2016, 02:33:19 PM
I think we should forget about Cressida, obviously Harry never liked her, just the way he treated her ... it was almost a scorn. It was just a pastime and I think, today he not even remember that her exists. Only a few blind fans still dream that He one day return to her. His girlfriend today is Meghan.
The only one mentioning Cressida has been you ... she has happily returned to her richer , more attractive , younger ex ... no one is dreaming of anything ... if anything is you who is dreaming if you think Harry will ever be seen with Megan let alone anything else ...
Meanwhile, She dresses her pup in a cape like Captain Britain (Source:People). :lol: The girl has baby fever...the clock is ticking.
Quote from: Eri on December 04, 2016, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: Cat00 on December 04, 2016, 02:33:19 PM
I think we should forget about Cressida, obviously Harry never liked her, just the way he treated her ... it was almost a scorn. It was just a pastime and I think, today he not even remember that her exists. Only a few blind fans still dream that He one day return to her. His girlfriend today is Meghan.
The only one mentioning Cressida has been you ... she has happily returned to her richer , more attractive , younger ex ... no one is dreaming of anything ... if anything is you who is dreaming if you think Harry will ever be seen with Megan let alone anything else ...
Your comment is ridiculous as always. Everyone knows here that you are sick for Cressida and we mention her because you always put her in the middle of the matter. Richer than Meghan she may be, now more attractive is her opinion. I find Meghan much more attractive, more charming, more radiant than dull Cressida .... and the fact that she is older is what must have attracted Harry. He is now with a real woman, not a silly girl, infantile, futile, dull, failed actress ..., And who has no elegance and education, sloppy
Quote from: Cat00 on December 05, 2016, 02:16:43 AM
Quote from: Eri on December 04, 2016, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: Cat00 on December 04, 2016, 02:33:19 PM
I think we should forget about Cressida, obviously Harry never liked her, just the way he treated her ... it was almost a scorn. It was just a pastime and I think, today he not even remember that her exists. Only a few blind fans still dream that He one day return to her. His girlfriend today is Meghan.
The only one mentioning Cressida has been you ... she has happily returned to her richer , more attractive , younger ex ... no one is dreaming of anything ... if anything is you who is dreaming if you think Harry will ever be seen with Megan let alone anything else ...
Your comment is ridiculous as always. Everyone knows here that you are sick for Cressida and we mention her because you always put her in the middle of the matter. Richer than Meghan she may be, now more attractive is her opinion. I find Meghan much more attractive, more charming, more radiant than dull Cressida .... and the fact that she is older is what must have attracted Harry. He is now with a real woman, not a silly girl, infantile, futile, dull, failed actress ..., And who has no elegance and education, sloppy
Meghan is educated from a top university in the US. She is successful professionally with her acting career and her side business which is fashion I think? She got more going for than most of the women in the royal family. Everything she has she has earned.
Ya know I thought Kate would become much more popular than she is. But she's not really. If Meghan joins the royal, she will become the most popular and everyone will want to see her all the time, her and Harry.
She doesn't seem to mind the nasty paps on her latest pap stroll ... she is reduced to making her poor dog pose on Instagram with a Union Jack shirt as Harry is still to be seen with her in public ... poor Megan ... you can tell she hates the attention ... but she is the only type of woman Prince Dim can pull ...
Well actually Harry has dated all sorts of women, black, white and all shades between, British and foreign, aristocratic and commoner. The professions they've shared have been everything from a shop assistant to a lawyer, singer to charity organiser. Probably the one thing they do have in common is that they have all made their own money, whether as a professional or an employee. They have initiative and don't hang around for nearly a decade waiting for a proposal.
Harry is thirty two and has accomplished many things for someone who is apparently dim as someone put it. Meghan is thirty five and has many accomplishments she has achieved herself. Harry knows the woman not the actress or charity worker and apparently he has spoken out of his affection for her. I hope she is the one who can bring him the joy and happiness of having the family of his own he has dreamed about.
Prince Harry heads back to UK - straight into the arms of new girlfriend Meghan Markle - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-heads-back-uk-9392648) :hug:
I can totally see them spending a romantic New Years together as I doubt the next two weeks in the run up to Christmas either will have time to get away though anything is possible.
Has Harry met Meghan's mother yet? Does anyone know? Last I read he was planning a trip to the US to meet them. Any update on that?
She has met his family, the main ones expect the Queen. When is his turn?
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Check it out folks:
Lovestruck Prince Harry takes a 1,700-mile diversion to see Meghan Markle | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4003952/Lovestruck-Prince-Harry-takes-1-700-mile-diversion-Meghan-Markle.html)
I actually suspected this might happen. Go Harry!!
I don't believe the DM coverage to be truthful, though I'm prepared to have egg on my face if there's a photo of the happy couple on Toronto streets tomorrow! I just feel, after a long exhausting tour and with an engagement in London booked in a few days, Harry would be heading for home to nurse the jet lag there.
Actually, in the Buckingham Palace pre-tour briefing the Express Royal correspondent Richard Palmer stated that a media person asked whether Harry would be diverting elsewhere following the tour. (They were quite obviously hoping to hang around and get snaps of the lovebirds soaking up the sun on some Caribbean island.) However the BP official said firmly that Harry would be going straight home to London.
Harry was seen boarding a private jet in Guyana to get him home faster, and I think expense-wise there might be questions asked if he used the jet to go see his girlfriend in Toronto.
I don't believe Harry has met any of Meghan's family yet. Her father was in Mexico until very recently. There's a small chance he may have met her mum when, according to rumour, he and Meghan spent some time together in LA in July. However, I doubt it somehow.
^ I don't believe this BS story either ... he is supposed to have an engagement in London tomorrow ... like no way ... pic or it didn't happen ... and it didn't ...
I know that many of DM's stories are false. But this one I believe!
Dropping in from my forum to say that Eri poster is so Indenial...Harry's OWN entourage and press confirmed this story to be true on Twitter.They have said he flew to Meghan and they flew separately back to London and Harry to Toronto.
As I have said they are not going to cater to the masses and be photographed together until they are good and ready. I hope they are having a beautiful time catching up.
I believe. They have been separated for 15 days, they must be crazy to see each other :wub: :wub: :wub:
Well with any luck no one will find out exactly where they are.
Prince Harry went to see Meghan Markle after Kensington Palace denied rumours | Royal | News | Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/740432/Prince-Harry-detour-Meghan-Markle-Toronto-Kensington-Palace-denial)
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Confirmation from the reporters on tour who made it back to London and discovered he did in fact go to Toronto.Dailymail got one right!
I bet he has clothes and things at Meghan's house in Toronto too! That way he doesn't have to pack anything or much. That also made it easy for to ditch the group that was with him on his tour.
I also agree that Harry and Meghan will not make an appearance together until they are good and ready!! I am sure the press and social media are getting on their nerves and for that they refuse to appease them. And I don't blame them!!
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Prince Harry breaches Royal policy as he jets off to see Meghan Markle at end of Caribbean tour (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/06/prince-harry-breaches-royal-policy-jets-see-meghan-markle-end/)
It's all over the new outlets!!
Meghan Markle Wears Personalized Necklace for Prince Harry: Pics - Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/meghan-markle-wears-personalized-necklace-for-prince-harry-pics-w454144)
Prince Harry extends controversial vacation with Meghan Markle | Page Six (http://pagesix.com/2016/12/06/prince-harry-extends-controversial-vacation-with-meghan-markle/?_ga=1.168100392.886360926.1459870969)
I don't think it's a good look to lie about going directly home to London. A 'no comment' would have been better, in my opinion. As it stands, it looks like they were attempting to deceive. I do hope he at least paid for the detour out of pocket instead of counted it as part of the budget for official transportation. If the former is the case, Harry can do whatever he wishes on his own time and dime.
Weird that all the paps that are camped at her home (roll eyes) didn't catch him ... this whole relationship is weird ... seems like a body call gone wrong ... she is reduced to acting like a teen in her first relationship (the necklace) because he won't be seen in public with her this will end in a Ocean of tears ... his PR people should be all be fired on the spot given how they have handled this ... a z list actress has outsmarted them and has seriously hurt Harry's image in the process ...
QuoteWhy Prince Harry has every right to visit Meghan Markle
This is an opinion piece by Royal Central's Deputy Editor Jamie Samhan
Once again, Prince Harry and his girlfriend, Meghan Markle are making headlines. This time the controversy stems over should Prince Harry have taken a detour to Toronto before heading back to London after his 2-week Caribbean tour.
According to The Telegraph, their biggest issue is that Prince Harry broke Royal conduct set in 2004 after the line between business trips and private trips became fuzzy. At the time the Royal Household said: "Members of the Royal family are entitled to grant-in-aid for official travel, as are their staff and, where capacity permits, other officials.
Read more:
Why Prince Harry has every right to visit Meghan Markle – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/why-prince-harry-has-every-right-to-visit-meghan-markle-72870)
^ With the British tax payer's money ... no he doesn't ... he shall find a J.O.B then he can do as his heart desires ... it's incredible how bad this relationship has been for his image ...
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There's nothing strange about this relationship. What's wrong with them wanting to keep their privacy? Harry is serious with her and he wants to protect her, so I think will end up in marriage, because with her ex-girlfriends, he did not have that care and concern. And it will not end in tears, even though negative people hope for it to happen.
^ A 35 years old who posts DAILY on Instagram and Twitter (flirting with another man) needs protecting from what exactly? :thumbsdown: Are you kidding me? That is just an act she used/s to keep Harry's attention ... an act his exes didn't need to pull since he was HAPPILY willing to be seen in public with them ... but just for argument's sake ... Harry has been a horrible boyfriend and that is why he has been DUMPED over and over again he hasn't changed once the sex warms off Megan will be history ...
Meghan IS NOT acting like a teen...If your significant other gave you a bracelet where would you wear it on your body? If they gave you a NECKlace where would that go on your body? She can wear what he gives her...She isn't asking the paparazzi to follow her and take pictures of her and zoom in close enough to see a tiny H and M...Eri you sound really bitter,jealous and ridiculous right now over this relationship.They have already confirmed he paid his way to Toronto...I haven't seen Meghan on Instagram in 2 or 3 days so not quite EVERYDAY huh?
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Prince Harry leaves girlfriend Meghan Markle's Toronto apartment under cover of dusk to head home after two-night stopover on his way back from the (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4008766/Harry-s-hasty-exit-Besotted-Prince-leaves-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-s-Toronto-apartment-cover-dusk-head-home-two-night-stopover-way-Caribbean.html)
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Going forward - I will be keeping a close watch on this thread. So, please mind your manners towards each other.
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Quote from: Jennifer on December 07, 2016, 01:42:50 PM
QuoteWhy Prince Harry has every right to visit Meghan Markle
This is an opinion piece by Royal Central's Deputy Editor Jamie Samhan
Once again, Prince Harry and his girlfriend, Meghan Markle are making headlines. This time the controversy stems over should Prince Harry have taken a detour to Toronto before heading back to London after his 2-week Caribbean tour.
According to The Telegraph, their biggest issue is that Prince Harry broke Royal conduct set in 2004 after the line between business trips and private trips became fuzzy. At the time the Royal Household said: "Members of the Royal family are entitled to grant-in-aid for official travel, as are their staff and, where capacity permits, other officials.
Read more:
Why Prince Harry has every right to visit Meghan Markle – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/why-prince-harry-has-every-right-to-visit-meghan-markle-72870)
I like this portion pf the article and the last part of of it. The British people need to mind their own business as well as others.
"They meet their own costs, however, for private travel. In order to avoid confusion, combining private and public engagements in the same trip is actively discouraged."
So this is going to be my first point, nowhere in that statement does it say it is forbidden, only "actively discouraged". Prince Harry did pay for his own trip to go to Toronto so people can't be angry with him for that, it has been argued that the taxpayers then had to pay for his police protection officer (PPO) to head to Toronto. Yet, had Prince Harry gone back to London and then Toronto, the taxpayers would still have to pay for that PPO and flights work out to almost exactly the same cost.
Costs aside, many of the media are upset that Kensington Palace told them that Prince Harry would be heading right back to London from Guyana. Did they have the right to know? The tour was now over and Prince Harry was off duty, he has explicitly said in the past that his private life was his and wants to enjoy his relationship with Miss Markle without the world judging his every move."
Quote from: Yale on December 07, 2016, 08:22:33 PM
The British people need to mind their own business as well as others
MyLado does not pay for his Security. The British Taxpayer does. So he needs to be more mindful of spending money willynilly with visits to his current lady friend.
Remember he is only the spare to the heir to the heir to the heir.........
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I stand by what I said!! And another thing----!! Security for Prince Harry must be paid around the clock regardless whether he is on duty or not. So the issue is mute!! It's a problem now because it's Meghan he wants to be with.
Well, like it or lump. Harry wants Meghan and no one is going to stop him. He doesn't care what anyone thinks. He is going to do what he wants to!! He has demonstrated that time and time again with Meghan.
^ Please be careful my dear - with your "like it or lump it" mantra!
And the British Taxpayers are not here to provide for his latest squeeze feast. .
His Granny is asking for funds to do up BP - and he his jetting around the world the see his latest fondant fancy.
Meanwhile, W&K are using helicopters like black cabs? How does does tally?
Quote from: Yale on December 07, 2016, 10:21:33 PM
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I stand by what I said!! And another thing----!! Security for Prince Harry must be paid around the clock regardless whether he is on duty or not. So the issue is mute!! It's a problem now because it's Meghan he wants to be with.
Well, like it or lump. Harry wants Meghan and no one is going to stop him. He doesn't care what anyone thinks. He is going to do what he wants to!! He has demonstrated that time and time again with Meghan.
Well ... his funeral ... his popularity won't recover after he starts thinking with his brain ... he has to ask the public as without the public given that he refuses to find a J.O.B he is just another Andrew like he will soon find out ...
Quote from: Eri on December 07, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
^ A 35 years old who posts DAILY on Instagram and Twitter (flirting with another man) needs protecting from what exactly? :thumbsdown: Are you kidding me? That is just an act she used/s to keep Harry's attention ... an act his exes didn't need to pull since he was HAPPILY willing to be seen in public with them ... but just for argument's sake ... Harry has been a horrible boyfriend and that is why he has been DUMPED over and over again he hasn't changed once the sex warms off Megan will be history ...
Harry has a job as a senior royal. He does not have to go through want ads to seek employment. Only those involved directly in the relationship know the nature of it. It is opinion not fact that he has been "horrible" If he is so "horrible how come you wanted him to be with Cressida (if you like her why would you want him with her if he is so "horrible"). There is such a thing as a mutual decision regarding a couple breaking up. That happens too.
Quote from: sandy on December 07, 2016, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: Eri on December 07, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
^ A 35 years old who posts DAILY on Instagram and Twitter (flirting with another man) needs protecting from what exactly? :thumbsdown: Are you kidding me? That is just an act she used/s to keep Harry's attention ... an act his exes didn't need to pull since he was HAPPILY willing to be seen in public with them ... but just for argument's sake ... Harry has been a horrible boyfriend and that is why he has been DUMPED over and over again he hasn't changed once the sex warms off Megan will be history ...
Harry has a job as a senior royal. He does not have to go through want ads to seek employment. Only those involved directly in the relationship know the nature of it. It is opinion not fact that he has been "horrible" If he is so "horrible how come you wanted him to be with Cressida (if you like her why would you want him with her if he is so "horrible"). There is such a thing as a mutual decision regarding a couple breaking up. That happens too.
Her problem with Harry is because he is not with Cressida, I have said on another occasion, if he returned to Cressida, he would become the most perfect man in the world for her.
Quote from: Eri on December 07, 2016, 09:28:25 AM
Weird that all the paps that are camped at her home (roll eyes) didn't catch him ... this whole relationship is weird ... seems like a body call gone wrong ... she is reduced to acting like a teen in her first relationship (the necklace) because he won't be seen in public with her this will end in a Ocean of tears ... his PR people should be all be fired on the spot given how they have handled this ... a z list actress has outsmarted them and has seriously hurt Harry's image in the process ...
LOL, you are British. It is called a booty call. You said it was a body call. :-)
Quote from: Cat00 on December 08, 2016, 12:06:48 AM
Quote from: sandy on December 07, 2016, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: Eri on December 07, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
^ A 35 years old who posts DAILY on Instagram and Twitter (flirting with another man) needs protecting from what exactly? :thumbsdown: Are you kidding me? That is just an act she used/s to keep Harry's attention ... an act his exes didn't need to pull since he was HAPPILY willing to be seen in public with them ... but just for argument's sake ... Harry has been a horrible boyfriend and that is why he has been DUMPED over and over again he hasn't changed once the sex warms off Megan will be history ...
Harry has a job as a senior royal. He does not have to go through want ads to seek employment. Only those involved directly in the relationship know the nature of it. It is opinion not fact that he has been "horrible" If he is so "horrible how come you wanted him to be with Cressida (if you like her why would you want him with her if he is so "horrible"). There is such a thing as a mutual decision regarding a couple breaking up. That happens too.
Her problem with Harry is because he is not with Cressida, I have said on another occasion, if he returned to Cressida, he would become the most perfect man in the world for her.
Cat100,
Some think either is preparing to propose or that he has already but keeping quiet til after New Years.
Quote from: SophieChloe on December 07, 2016, 10:25:01 PM
^ Please be careful my dear - with your "like it or lump it" mantra!
And the British Taxpayers are not here to provide for his latest squeeze feast. .
His Granny is asking for funds to do up BP - and he his jetting around the world the see his latest fondant fancy.
Meanwhile, W&K are using helicopters like black cabs? How does does tally?
*** yes... a thousand times yes!
The Royals are answerable to be British tax payers. Period. Although, the appearances the royals do does bring focus to certain causes and promote themselves as well, let's face it, it's not rocket science nor hard labour. So they have a good & PRIVILEGED life and it's not too much to ask for proper behavior and good conduct.
IMO, Harry's behavior and actions lately is of a privileged kid asserting what he wants (w/ regards to how he handles this "relationship"). I can't blame the backlash they are getting from the British people and their press. Meghan's "look at me" behavior on social media isn't helping the Royal family either. But it IS helping raise her own profile and career. That is undeniable.
This whole thing is history repeating itself and doesn't bode well for the image of the family. Harry needs to use his brain and better decision making skills in handling this whole thing.
If the British Royals don't behave themselves, they shouldn't be surprised if Queen Elizabeth II will be the last sovereign w/ the title HRH. They need to earn & deserve that title.
Quote from: Yale on December 07, 2016, 10:21:33 PM
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I stand by what I said!! And another thing----!! Security for Prince Harry must be paid around the clock regardless whether he is on duty or not. So the issue is mute!! It's a problem now because it's Meghan he wants to be with.
Well, like it or lump. Harry wants Meghan and no one is going to stop him. He doesn't care what anyone thinks. He is going to do what he wants to!! He has demonstrated that time and time again with Meghan.
According to the nosy wintness that hear everything dissicus with her friends at the restaurant it look like Megan is here to stay Permanently in the Windsor firm. No wonder Megan was all smile leaving the restaurant after sharing the news with her friends. I saw it on twitter re tweets from Canada gossips site that say the wintness is certain of it! So hate Megan or not you all have to deal with it like some of you had to deal with kate, Harry have make his choice I hope the best for all.
Harry is really in a catch 22 if he wants to visit Meghan fresh off a tour. While if is discouraged taking a flight that was official to make a detour to Canada unofficially even if he meets the extra cost he is criticized. Whether on duty or not he does have 24/7 protection payed for by the British taxpayer this he doesn't have control over. There were times however when his father traveled officially only to detour to Italy to paint with his mistress and his wife was left to fly the remainder of the flight to London. Andrew abused his privilege and now that abuse has trickled down to Harry. I hope he and Meghan can find a happy medium to visit without criticism but having the HRH he is not as lucky as his cousin Peter was while dating Canadian Autumn Kelly who became his wife.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Spotted Wearing Their Matching Bracelets After Secret Visit (http://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-bracelet-after-secret-visit-prince-harry/)
There are photos of them both wearing their bracelets after his visit. They both removed while he was on tour. This is so romantic!
They both are seen grinning like crazy after the visit!
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Quote from: SophieChloe on December 07, 2016, 10:25:01 PM
^ Please be careful my dear - with your "like it or lump it" mantra!
And the British Taxpayers are not here to provide for his latest squeeze feast. .
His Granny is asking for funds to do up BP - and he his jetting around the world the see his latest fondant fancy.
Meanwhile, W&K are using helicopters like black cabs? How does does tally?
Harry gets 24/7 protection whether is he on or off duty. Taxpayers are footing the bill in any case. So, what's your point?? He made it back in time for his last engagement before the holidays. His private life is his and it's his business!! If it were anyone other than Meghan, this would not be an issue.
I really think that something or somebody's going to have to give at some stage in this romance, and unfair though it undoubtedly is, I'm afraid it's going to have to be MM. These dashes to Toronto can't continue indefinitely without Canadian taxpayers complaining about use of police cars, personnel etc. and the British complaining about Harry's RPO's being taken across the Atlantic with all the expense that involves.
As the relationship deepens, they will want to be together more and more I'm sure, and sooner or later Meghan is going to have to give up Suits, transfer The Tig to London and settle in Nott Cott. It's quite obviously at an exciting stage of the relationship at the moment, but if it is as serious as it seems to be then it will end in marriage. I do believe that for this to work Meghan should learn absolutely all she can about the BRF, protocol, the Royal round and the British nation and its traditions. She might as well begin soon as I don't think these two will be hanging around for years like William and Kate if they want a family.
^ She won't move anywhere as she is only using sleeping with Harry for attention given that she knows it has no future ... it will be over soon ... embarrassing that he uses her for you know what but won't be seen with her in public especially if you are 35 and divorced ... nothing to like about this woman without any self respect ... she should have demanded he acts like a normal proud boyfriend instead of him putting ignorant idiotic statement out there that started the backlash against both of them ... but again that will never happen and all she will ever get out of him is that statement ...
Just the fact that she is wearing a necklace with their initials, already shows the certainty that she is about this relationship. She would not risk wearing the necklace if she had doubts about Harry and the dating
I have no doubt that Harry is delighted with her. She's a girl full of qualities, I'm sure she's different from all the other girlfriends he's had,
^ Yep ... she is the only one who managed to have people to call for him to give up his Title ... great achievement ...[ edited] ...
QuotePrince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle wears necklace featuring their initials
Meghan Markle has found a unique way to express her love for Prince Harry. The Suits star has given a sartorial nod to her relationship with Harry by wearing a necklace featuring both of their initials.
Harry's girlfriend was spotted wearing the 14-carat personalised necklace during an outing in Toronto, Canada on Saturday. The piece of jewellery originally went unnoticed, but a closer look revealed it featured the initials M and H on a delicate chain.
The necklace is from Los Angeles-based designer Maya Brenner and retails for £190 ($240).
Read more:
Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle wears necklace featuring their initials (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016120735068/prince-harry-girlfriend-meghan-markle-initials-necklace/)
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QuotePrince Harry jokes he doesn't know 'what country we're in' following Toronto visit to see girlfriend Meghan Markle
Fresh from carrying out his tour of the Caribbean and visiting his girlfriend Meghan Markle in Toronto, Prince Harry joked on Wednesday that he didn't know what country he was in. The jet-setting Prince was attending the ICAP charity day in London on behalf of his organisation Sentebale.
He was faced with a sea of brokers dressed in fancy dress, which promoted him to quip: "I'm not entirely sure what country we're in."
Harry, 32, made no reference to his new transatlantic relationship but it was hard not to notice his cheerful demeanour. The royal made an upbeat appearance at the official engagement, beaming from ear-to-ear and waving to well-wishers as he arrived.
Read more:
Prince Harry in in high spirits at ICAP charity day (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016120735071/prince-harry-icap-charity-day/)
Eri, some things I agree with you on. You show no mercy.lol. :partaay:
MM35, PH 32. Toronto to London. These 2 cannot travel back and forth . At their ages ,it is. marriage or not. We like to say here, slang, with some decisions that you either do it or get off the pot. Lon djsta CE relationships are hard on anybody. By mid spring, an announce ent or the e d of them. Spring is always BRF s time for wedding announcements
MM and PH living together ....unlike PW and K, PH MM do not have that to e, luxury of privacy. She will need to end Suits acting job and move and really start to live that life to adjust.
I do not think QEIi will have her AF Sandringham Tradition is BRF. Lovers are not BRF.
I agree with you MM needs to get off social media. Again, does she fully get what she could be getting into. BRF is not celebrityville. No social media for her . TPTB take. care of that. History repeating itself ( Andrew, Diana,
Fergie, Edward, Margaret), goodness not.
Again I say ,can MM stand up to Black American bullies wanting her to be woke, do this ,attend that, represent, prove her Blackness?
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Eri, who do you think PH should marry?
Quote from: Yale on December 08, 2016, 12:43:41 PM
If it were anyone other than Meghan, this would not be an issue.
I'm not sure what you mean by that comment? For the record, I believe she would be a wonderful addition to the RF. She has lived in the real world, had to earn her own money and has lived. If they are planning to get married - she can string more than a sentence together - important for a married-in. I also believe she will also make a real good go of the role - unlike youknowwhowho.....
I just wish Harry was more mindful of Public money whilst wooing her.
That's all!
Both are beaming from hear to hear since they saw each other. I just love it!!
^^ And I have the opposite view. While I agree she's more intelligent and articulate than you know who, she also has some very strong negative attributes that are far more dangerous for the monarchy. Miss outspoken - I'm a great feminist - which is all a show anyway, is going to have a rude awakening if she marries in. What happens when she has to fall in line and her famewhoring is limited? I foresee the airing of the dirty laundry that will make Diana and Fergie look docile. The way this relationship started and was unveiled will be how the marriage between the two will end, full of drama and acrimony. She's an actress and will get high on the publicity.
I love her and I agree they both look VERY HAPPY! I DO NOT think she is a fame whore...The tabloids are the ones going through everything making a story about her! She has been completely SILENT! A fame whore would be bragging to everyone she knew! If you are assuming by her jewelry where else would she wear the jewelry her boyfriend gives her...? A bracelet and necklace can only go 2 places on her body and both are visible,she doesn't have to hide her gifts from him...Stop the personal attacking,this forum is for commenting on the relationship,not your personal hatred of her.
I'm giving my opinion of her just like you are. You say tomayto and I say tomaato, fine, but you don't get to dictate what I think of two public figures. The company sent her the jewelry and you can tell because no one noticed it until two days later. An obvious plant just like all her other leaks, and spooning bananas, and tea pot puzzle, and Union Jack. She is the definition of a narcissist famewhore.
What matters is what Harry thinks of her and with certainty he must be crazy about her, so ... :blowkiss: :P :hug:
If only it were that simple... I've read fairytales too ... But they are just stories to teach little girls to dream. This one though is just a badly written soap opera.
Quote from: Vesper on December 08, 2016, 07:33:14 PM
^^ And I have the opposite view. While I agree she's more intelligent and articulate than you know who, she also has some very strong negative attributes that are far more dangerous for the monarchy. Miss outspoken - I'm a great feminist - which is all a show anyway, is going to have a rude awakening if she marries in. What happens when she has to fall in line and her famewhoring is limited? I foresee the airing of the dirty laundry that will make Diana and Fergie look docile. The way this relationship started and was unveiled will be how the marriage between the two will end, full of drama and acrimony. She's an actress and will get high on the publicity.
You make some excellent points. Very sad that married-ins feel the need to suppress themselves and become almost mute and the need to (IMO) stave themselves skinny.
However. I wish Harry and Meghan all the very best. And I will secretly chuckle when she shows his Brother's choice for the lazy donk she has proved to be.
Quote from: LadyLenox on December 08, 2016, 07:59:07 PM
I love her and I agree they both look VERY HAPPY! I DO NOT think she is a fame :censored:...The tabloids are the ones going through everything making a story about her! She has been completely SILENT! A fame :censored: would be bragging to everyone she knew! If you are assuming by her jewelry where else would she wear the jewelry her boyfriend gives her...? A bracelet and necklace can only go 2 places on her body and both are visible,she doesn't have to hide her gifts from him...Stop the personal attacking,this forum is for commenting on the relationship,not your personal hatred of her.
I agree 100% So well said!!
@SophieChloe I think it depends. The monarchy does require discretion and and a bit more of the reserved type, which is why a celebrity is not such a good idea, but I think the right temperament could forge a nice balance between life as a senior royal and personal happiness. Sophie does it, although you can argue that she's not senior enough, but everyone else has been a disaster.
This mixing celebrity with royalty might seem to some people as snobbish, I'm the opposite of that, but if the people in the institution are turned into reality tv stars then what's the point of them? Why pay such high price for entertainment when you you can get that for a much cheaper internet connection?
Kate, for all her faults, is at least inoffensive and not in your face.
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Correction: I meant my main concern about mixing celebrity with royalty.
I suppose it all depends on one's feelings towards the monarchy to begin with. They might end up together, they might not, but personally if they don't I don't believe it'll be because the RF found her unsuitable. That's the part of the fairytale that I just don't buy.
I don't think the RF believes in fairytales at all, especially after Diana, and that's exactly my point. They must now be very careful and a lot more practical regarding marriage. This whole Harry loves Meghan so much he gave her a love bracelet and necklace is the definition of Disney princess storyline. I don't even think they make them that cheesy anymore.
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Do you want more fame than being married to a prince? And she can continue working on humanitarian causes and also on her blog. She herself said that it is difficult for her to get good roles because of her ethnicity. She knows that the acting career is uncertain, I doubt she would not leave because of the marriage.
Just because of Diana, I think the queen saw that it did not work very well for her children to marry people of noble families and Within the standards. Fergie was within the standards and see what happened :hehe:
Well the Queen did lower the bar when she admitted Camilla Parker Bowles, the divorcee and the other woman in the marriage of Prince Charles. It's all downhill from there. The Queen should have realized what a self centered selfish person Charles was to want to have his cake and eat it too. Diana's marriage to Charles did not work well because of Charles preferring his married mistress. Fergie did not marry the heir apparent and she had just moved on from living with a man, so the standards did not apply to Prince Andrew. CHarles decided to marry Diana not Camilla to have his heirs with.
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Quote from: Eri on December 08, 2016, 02:38:05 PM
^ She won't move anywhere as she is only using sleeping with Harry for attention given that she knows it has no future ... it will be over soon ... embarrassing that he uses her for you know what but won't be seen with her in public especially if you are 35 and divorced ... nothing to like about this woman without any self respect ... she should have demanded he acts like a normal proud boyfriend instead of him putting ignorant idiotic statement out there that started the backlash against both of them ... but again that will never happen and all she will ever get out of him is that statement ...
What backlash? I think more are totally indifferent to this and some actually like them as a couple. Charles was seen with Camilla in public when she was 50 and divorced. Maybe Meghan could be using him for you know what. LOL
I think the main difference between how we all view this relationship is that some think this is like a Disney movie while some of us are more based on reality.
To me, being a part of a Royal Family is about responsibility and duty. And at a time when Royalty is either being abolished or viewed as insignificant, every action a Royal makes should reflect good behavior and proper conduct. Harry may or may not care what the British public think of his actions, but the backlash of it all will affect the whole family as an institution.
Meghan's attention seeking actions have been well planned and timed, I'm not surprised that lawyers and PR are working w/ certain magazine outlets. (I mean really, no scarf in cold Toronto so she could be papped w/ wearing her necklace JUST right in time w/ Harry's visit, how gullible does she think most people are?) She is American and her view of the whole BRF is probably more Disney based than duty based. If she really wants to get into this family, she needs to learn the rules and learn from Diana's mistakes. You don't overshadow the Queen nor the institution.
But then again, we all still don't know what their personal motives are. For Harry, this could all be a fun relationship (not living in the same city, so no responsibility) w/ a convenient booty call. For Meghan, it could be the boost to her profile that she needs.
Kate Middleton did plenty of attention seeking pre-marriage. She did not have a "proper job" and was criticized and went on a very public campaign (press and all) to "win back William." DIana did not make "mistakes", her husband did by going into the marriage not intending to give up Camilla. Diana (when all the backstory was unknown) was praised by the press for "not putting a foot wrong" during the run up to the marriage. Charles petty jealousy of his fiancee then wife was the problem. I doubt the Queen felt "upstaged" by Diana in the least. Charles was not man enough to appreciate his own wife. DIana was a nervous, scared young woman barely 20 when she did her first walkabout but the public took to her to Charles chagrin.
I think Camilla added to the royal family lowered the bar. I see nothing wrong with Meghan. Harry may marry her, he may not. But the royals can hardly turn up their noses at her considering how Camilla got in. They'd look like a bunch of hypocrites. Meghan had a career before she met Harry and still has one. She comes across to me as independent unlike Kate who focused her whole life on getting a ring from William and waited ten years doing little.
So far I see no "jealous of his own wife" behavior from PRince William and I doubt Harry will inherit this hangup from Prince Charles.
Quote from: Cat00 on December 09, 2016, 12:56:34 AM
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Do you want more fame than being married to a prince? And she can continue working on humanitarian causes and also on her blog. She herself said that it is difficult for her to get good roles because of her ethnicity. She knows that the acting career is uncertain, I doubt she would not leave because of the marriage.
Just because of Diana, I think the queen saw that it did not work very well for her children to marry people of noble families and Within the standards. Fergie was within the standards and see what happened :hehe:
IMHO QEII and the DoE have come to realize that it was better that their children find partners that had similar shared interests, discretion and a stable relationship rooted in friendship over ties to the aristocracy or the polo set. Also it seems that they've given their blessing better to extended courtships rather than quick engagements. Edward and Sophie appear to be committed and they dated longer than any of his siblings and former in-laws before announcing their engagement.
If QEII, the DoE, and PoW see that Harry and Meghan have shared interests, a stable relationship and are appear to be discreet about their interaction then likely they'll give their blessing if the pair become engaged.
Edward and Sophie lived together for quite a long time before marriage. It may have been that other members of the BRF were curious about why they were taking so long. I can't remember where I read it at all, but did read somewhere that Sophie stated to a friend that their longterm relationship was very good and stable but every time marriage was mentioned (by others) Edward pulled away. They wanted a family and Sophie wasn't getting any younger so whatever reservations Edward may have had about married life had to be put aside in the end I suppose.
I was so excited about this relationship. Now, not so much.
I feel that they are both acting immature and considering their ages, that is sad.
Meghan seems to be enjoying the celebrity aspect of it a little too much. I don't care that she continues with the IG and her website, but it is easy to avoid attention bringing ones, like the Union Jack, the necklace (yes she can avoid wearing them outside, nobody is forcing her to wear it 24/7).
Besides Toronto is a very safe environment for celebrities, they are rarely papped. I am very suspicious of that fact that she is routinely photographed. That is very very unusual for Toronto.
Actors and actresses actively seek fame. They are known to have big egos. She is not different. She loves to network, hence all her famous connections, her catching up with Pierce Morgan when in London. She was a D-Lister and this is her ticket to A-list and i am afraid she loves it way too much.
Harry is smitten, but I don't think it is unique. When he was with Chelsy, he used to fly over for day long trips to South Africa just to surprise her. He has defended her on his birthday interview. He is a passionate man.
I initially found his letter romantic, but having reread it and thought about it, it was a wrong move. He's not only confirmed the relationship, but because of his age, now everybody expects him to get engaged anytime now. This wouldn't have happened with Cressida, because she wouldn't have let him do it. Meghan, being an American celebrity, had her finger prints all over the wording of the letter and it skyrocketed her fame.
Also she does not understand what is expected of a BRF member. If she did, she would have told him not to fly over from his tour to Toronto. It was an absolutely bad move. They are clearly instructed not to mix personal with business. On top of that he's blatantly lied to the press. Yes he doesn't have to tell us that he is seeing his girlfriend, so he could have flied back to London and then to Toronto. As a public servant his business needs to be transparent, yet he lied! It is something I cannot pull off at my job, nor can anyone else. And just a few weeks after the huge Buckingham renovation bill is announced. Very very bad and spoiled move, the kind of move we've been seeing from his brother. I have to admit I am very disappointed.
The main difference is that when he dated Chelsy he was a boy, now he is a man. It is common to be impulsive when one is very young, more in the mature age, it is love, passion that lead to these attitudes.
I do not think it's a Disney movie, I just think it's about two people with common interests who really love each other. Sorry, but I believe in love !! :hug:
Now all she does is show up? She is the actress who is acting, has fans, why should she stop her life? She has to leave and continue publishing on social networks. The problem is that some Prejudiced people, not accepting the fact that she was a foreigner and bi racial, wanted Harry to marry only english girl, blond, white, , not to mention the deceived who still dream that He will return with ex girlfriends.
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Quote from: Cat00 on December 09, 2016, 12:56:34 AM
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Do you want more fame than being married to a prince? And she can continue working on humanitarian causes and also on her blog. She herself said that it is difficult for her to get good roles because of her ethnicity. She knows that the acting career is uncertain, I doubt she would not leave because of the marriage.
Just because of Diana, I think the queen saw that it did not work very well for her children to marry people of noble families and Within the standards. Fergie was within the standards and see what happened :hehe:
IMHO QEII and the DoE have come to realize that it was better that their children find partners that had similar shared interests, discretion and a stable relationship rooted in friendship over ties to the aristocracy or the polo set. Also it seems that they've given their blessing better to extended courtships rather than quick engagements. Edward and Sophie appear to be committed and they dated longer than any of his siblings and former in-laws before announcing their engagement.
If QEII, the DoE, and PoW see that Harry and Meghan have shared interests, a stable relationship and are appear to be discreet about their interaction then likely they'll give their blessing if the pair become engaged.
Since the Queen knew about Camilla, I find it amazing that she sat back and watched Diana and Charles get married--it was a disaster in the making. The other couples did not have this complication.
Quote from: Curryong on December 09, 2016, 04:34:05 AM
Edward and Sophie lived together for quite a long time before marriage. It may have been that other members of the BRF were curious about why they were taking so long. I can't remember where I read it at all, but did read somewhere that Sophie stated to a friend that their longterm relationship was very good and stable but every time marriage was mentioned (by others) Edward pulled away. They wanted a family and Sophie wasn't getting any younger so whatever reservations Edward may have had about married life had to be put aside in the end I suppose.
That must have been an uncomfortable period in their relationship with family/friends asking when the couple might be married. Unfortunately for Edward he was on the sidelines watching his siblings' marriages ending badly in the public spotlight. I can't blame him for having some reservations especially after viewing the War of the Wales and the demise of the York marriage.
Glad to see that the Wessexes appear to have a very solid and stable relationship. Sophie had the opportunity to get to know the ways of the BRF from the sidelines and to consider if this was the life she wanted to lead. IMO it's part of the reason that the couple are still going strong after so many years together.
It would have been a blessing to Diana if she had been allowed a longer waiting period. She could have quietly backed out before Charles proposed as Camilla's influence became more apparent.
I agree
@sandy. Also if both Charles and Diana had been dating for a longer period of time, they could have discovered how little that they had in common and gone their separate ways.
Fortunately for the BRF the younger generation: QEII's maried grandchildren, Margaret's children, and most of the children of the Kents and Gloucesters appear to be doing well when it comes to marriage and many of them dated their spouses for quite awhile before marrying. Marina Ogilvy might be the only one who has gotten a divorce.
Meghan is a foreigner and biracial. That is the problem for many. They won't admit it, but it's the truth!!
I read that there are many in the country celebrating the possibility of Britain having it's first British(/American) Princess of color. And I must admit that is one of the things I am very excited about too.
Quote from: psm on December 09, 2016, 12:02:13 PM
I was so excited about this relationship. Now, not so much.
I feel that they are both acting immature and considering their ages, that is sad.
Meghan seems to be enjoying the celebrity aspect of it a little too much. I don't care that she continues with the IG and her website, but it is easy to avoid attention bringing ones, like the Union Jack, the necklace (yes she can avoid wearing them outside, nobody is forcing her to wear it 24/7).
Besides Toronto is a very safe environment for celebrities, they are rarely papped. I am very suspicious of that fact that she is routinely photographed. That is very very unusual for Toronto.
Actors and actresses actively seek fame. They are known to have big egos. She is not different. She loves to network, hence all her famous connections, her catching up with Pierce Morgan when in London. She was a D-Lister and this is her ticket to A-list and i am afraid she loves it way too much.
Harry is smitten, but I don't think it is unique. When he was with Chelsy, he used to fly over for day long trips to South Africa just to surprise her. He has defended her on his birthday interview. He is a passionate man.
I initially found his letter romantic, but having reread it and thought about it, it was a wrong move. He's not only confirmed the relationship, but because of his age, now everybody expects him to get engaged anytime now. This wouldn't have happened with Cressida, because she wouldn't have let him do it. Meghan, being an American celebrity, had her finger prints all over the wording of the letter and it skyrocketed her fame.
Also she does not understand what is expected of a BRF member. If she did, she would have told him not to fly over from his tour to Toronto. It was an absolutely bad move. They are clearly instructed not to mix personal with business. On top of that he's blatantly lied to the press. Yes he doesn't have to tell us that he is seeing his girlfriend, so he could have flied back to London and then to Toronto. As a public servant his business needs to be transparent, yet he lied! It is something I cannot pull off at my job, nor can anyone else. And just a few weeks after the huge Buckingham renovation bill is announced. Very very bad and spoiled move, the kind of move we've been seeing from his brother. I have to admit I am very disappointed.
^^^ this eloquently states much of how I see this.
It has been one bad decision/move after another. But then again, I think Harry and Meghan view their relationship differently and have different goals for the outcome of it. Guess because it's barely gotten started but their actions don't show unity and again... puts each of them in a bad light. Harry looks like a spoiled rich kid. Meghan looks like an attention seeking social climber. :no: :no: :no:
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Quote from: Yale on December 10, 2016, 02:20:42 AM
Meghan is a foreigner and biracial. That is the problem for many. They won't admit it, but it's the truth!!
I read that there are many in the country celebrating the possibility of Britain having it's first British(/American) Princess of color. And I must admit that is one of the things I am very excited about too.
Meghan isn't the first foreigner or biracial that has dated European royalty. A number of foreigners (African Americans, Asian, Latinas, other mixed race) even married into them. One of them is even now the Grand Duchess of Luxembourg. (yes, it hasn't been easy for her either, but that's another story) A lot of them met the Princes/Princesses in Universities, boarding schools or the diplomatic core/events. Some of them come from highly educated and well to do families.
I'm sure there are those who don't like her because as you said "she's a foreigner and biracial".
But Meghan's main difference w/ the others is her past and her occupation.
But even if the press and public have a problem w/ her past, they would run out of things to publish eventually if she'd kept a low profile and stop seeking attention. NO leaks, no necklaces or bracelets, no body guards or big black SUVs, no social media posts stating her location, no union jacks on her dog... all these things have kept her name on the papers week after week after week. So how can one say that she is not seeking attention and egging the Press on.
As people here keep saying, she (and Harry) are older and should know better. She knows she's dating one of the highest profile royal out there. If her motives were pure and simple, it could've been done easily and the Press would've looked stupid because there would've been no clues or innuendoes, so no news. They can keep digging her past and they'd run out of material. But now, she's the one providing the material and pictures for them to keep her name being mentioned.
Quote from: Yale on December 10, 2016, 02:20:42 AM
Meghan is a foreigner and biracial. That is the problem for many. They won't admit it, but it's the truth!!
I read that there are many in the country celebrating the possibility of Britain having it's first British(/American) Princess of color. And I must admit that is one of the things I am very excited about too.
We are in 2016, being bi-racial and American is NOT a problem at all. It's her drama queen way and her famewhoring that are a problem. The way she leaked the story to the media, and when Harry said nothing for days, after dropping hints left and right, she threw a hissy fit.
I'm going to say this again. What actress does not understand how fame works? Can you control the internet? Come on... She isn't liked because she failed to make a good impression. She's fake just like the rest of the Hollywood wannabes.
I would love some diversity in that family. That would be super interesting and exciting, but this one is a disaster.
I'll leave you with this: it's the DM and they are usually full of crap, but this is hilariously accurate.
Does she love me for myself? As cynics doubt Meghan's motives, how besotted Prince Harry might seek advice from our 'agony aunt' JAN MOIR, who interprets her social media posts and photos of themBy Jan Moir for the Daily Mail
19:02 EST 09 Dec 2016, updated 21:07 EST 09 Dec 2016
Does she love me for myself? As spiteful cynics doubt Meghan's motives, how besotted Prince Harry might seek advice from our 'agony aunt' JAN MOIR | (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4019174/Does-love-spiteful-cynics-doubt-Meghan-s-motives-besotted-Prince-Harry-seek-advice-agony-aunt-JAN-MOIR.html)
^I don't doubt Jan Muir's motives for writing an article poking fun at Harry, even though she calls him the most popular Royal in the BRF barring the Queen. Good old fun-loving Jan pokes fun at others for her weekly salary. She's almost as hilarious here as when she was awarded the Stonewall Bigot of the Year Award in 2009 for a particularly vicious article on the death of gay, Stephen Gately. It also drew the ire of fellow journalists. See below. What a sense of humour!
Charlie Brooker | Why there was nothing 'human' about Jan Moir's column on the death of Stephen Gately | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir)
The last paragraph in the above article referring to the Daily Fail (Jan's employer) is particularly apt I think.
She might be a bigot, if so, shame on her, but that doesn't make the point she's making here any less valid. The way MM goes on about her heritage you would think she invented being bi-racial. Harry's cry for privacy doesn't match his girlfriend thirst for the limelight.
As abominal as she is, Jan has a point this time.
I am a little tired of people throwing racism whenever MM is criticized. First of all that is a serious accusation. Second, while I am sure there are people who are against this relationship because of her ethnic background, for many others that is not the case.
IMO her being a biracial American are two positive things. Same for her education and the fact that she is an independent woman who has been working to make a living. That was why I was so excited. I wanted them to get married and have babies. But the more I've observed her, the less impressed I've become.
Like I've said, I am not critical of her using social media as it is part of her profession and she has big following. So different standards already for her as opposed to Cressida who left her IG open for a while after her relationship was discovered. And Cressida was younger, and not media savvy. social media a newer platform. MM is playing, kind of trolling. Which is scary because being a member of BRF is not being a celebrity. It's not too difficult to refrain from posting suggestive bananas, references to the UK. She can already do that. She was in LA, posted tress, are the media constantly mentioning that? No, because there is not a story to tell about those posts after the initial (boring) reporting. Bananas, union jack dog sweater, bracelets, MH necklace? Different story. All could have been easily prevented. But all also furthered her fame, kept her on the media.
I was initially impressed that she had been doing charity work, but I wanted to puke after I watched her video in Rwanda, which could be studied in a post-colonialism class. It was not about charity, it was about a beautiful and privileged American hugging poor Third World children, while looking glamorous; bestowing upon them her valuable attention. No, please no!
I just skimmed over some of the last few posts.
I'm going to say this again.....
Prince Harry is going to do what he wants to do regardless of what any of you have to say; regardless of anybody thinks in Britain or anywhere else.
If marries Meghan, there is not one thing any of you can say or do to stop him. So, that so called article in a few posts up is a waste of time.
Quote from: Yale on December 10, 2016, 08:02:49 PM
I just skimmed over some of the last few posts.
I'm going to say this again.....
Prince Harry is going to do what he wants to do regardless of what any of you have to say; regardless of anybody thinks in Britain or anywhere else.
If marries Meghan, there is not one thing any of you can say or do to stop him. So, that so called article in a few posts up is a waste of time.
Me too. Since unfortunately in this Forum there is no way to block some members, I simply don't read your posts anymore, I ignore :teehee:
I'll tell you what a waste of time is: that is telling people what they should or should not post. Stop with the grand declaration and just don't respond or do that's what we're here for.
Quote from: Vesper on December 10, 2016, 12:28:29 PM
I'll leave you with this: it's the DM and they are usually full of crap, but this is hilariously accurate.
Does she love me for myself? As cynics doubt Meghan's motives, how besotted Prince Harry might seek advice from our 'agony aunt' JAN MOIR, who interprets her social media posts and photos of them
By Jan Moir for the Daily Mail
19:02 EST 09 Dec 2016, updated 21:07 EST 09 Dec 2016
Does she love me for myself? As spiteful cynics doubt Meghan's motives, how besotted Prince Harry might seek advice from our 'agony aunt' JAN MOIR | (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4019174/Does-love-spiteful-cynics-doubt-Meghan-s-motives-besotted-Prince-Harry-seek-advice-agony-aunt-JAN-MOIR.html)
:lol: :lol: :lol:OMG :lol: :lol: :lol: This IS hilariously accurate. I keep laughing at the (Almost A ) Princess Diaries comment...
And if anybody else thinks she "needs" social media to promote her work... take note, She hasn't really posted anything to promote SUITS in the past weeks. And Suits is going to start again soon, (yes, I watch that show so I follow Gabriel Macht and Patrick Adams). Meghan isn't promoting the show nor her "work", just only herself. :cloud9:(look at me, look at me... :no: :wacko:)
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Quote from: Yale on December 10, 2016, 08:02:49 PM
I just skimmed over some of the last few posts.
I'm going to say this again.....
Prince Harry is going to do what he wants to do regardless of what any of you have to say; regardless of anybody thinks in Britain or anywhere else.
If marries Meghan, there is not one thing any of you can say or do to stop him. So, that so called article in a few posts up is a waste of time.
Me too. Since unfortunately in this Forum there is no way to block some members, I simply don't read their posts anymore, I ignore :teehee:
As I do...
Quote from: sandy on December 09, 2016, 02:50:26 PM
Since the Queen knew about Camilla, I find it amazing that she sat back and watched Diana and Charles get married--it was a disaster in the making. The other couples did not have this complication.
Since none of us were there to witness just how much Her Majesty tried to side with Diana through this marriage and support her, I do recall a photo and headline, the photo showing the Mr. and Mrs. Parker Bowles sitting along side of Her Majesty, after being invited into the royal box at the races. This was mid problems in the marriage and I believe Diana had done something publicly to warrant this snub. However, I think the Queen should have always been advising and supporting Diana. Had she tried to direct Diana over the years of marriage, perhaps Diana would have been thinking more clearly and not have become so public in her personal life!
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Quote from: sandy on December 09, 2016, 02:50:26 PM
Since the Queen knew about Camilla, I find it amazing that she sat back and watched Diana and Charles get married--it was a disaster in the making. The other couples did not have this complication.
Since none of us were there to witness just how much Her Majesty tried to side with Diana through this marriage and support her, I do recall a photo and headline, the photo showing the Mr. and Mrs. Parker Bowles sitting along side of Her Majesty, after being invited into the royal box at the races. This was mid problems in the marriage and I believe Diana had done something publicly to warrant this snub. However, I think the Queen should have always been advising and supporting Diana. Had she tried to direct Diana over the years of marriage, perhaps Diana would have been thinking more clearly and not have become so public in her personal life!
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I think The Queen's first loyalty was always to her son. And the Queen Mum blamed the women in Charles' life, not Charles. Before Diana, the Queen just ignored or try to ignore Charles becoming involved with his friends' wives. I do think the Queen should have seen this as a disaster in the making. She knew what was going on with Charles. I do think the royals sat with the PBs to try to keep up appearances and dispel the stories in the Morton book (though Morton never referred to Camilla as Charles' lover or mistress, just confidante or friend). IT was not IMO to "punish" Diana who at the time denied her role in the Morton book. I don't think DIana "warranted" the snub. She was Charles wife and the Queen's misplaced loyalty was to the mistress. A real pity. Diana's personal life became "public" when Charles friends leaked nasty stories about Diana to the media, and this before the Morton book. The Queen should have put a stop to that right away. NO matter what the QUeen did or said, the blame was with Charles and she should have dealt with his issues before he even thought of getting married.
I hope William and Harry never have this situation in their lives.
I have to agree with everything Sandy said. The Queen was informed of her son and heir sleeping with the wife of a brother officer and to be perfectly honest as Head of the Armed Forces and his Sovereign she should have put a stop to it but didn't. As much as I despise James Hewett he was pushed under the bus tarred and feathered because he slept with the wife of a brother officer.
Harry has no such baggage yet Meghan because she is divorced, a working actress and biracial is considered not suitable for Harry when she has done nothing to harm the Monarchy unlike Charles and his current wife. Well I hate to say this but the bar was lowered to the floor when the Queen allowed Charles and Camilla to marry so who is anyone to hate on Harry for this relationship or Meghan that may or may not end in marriage.
The stuff they make up.... LOL :teehee:
Is Prince Harry buying Meghan Markle a mansion in LA | Woman's Day (http://www.womansday.com.au/royals/british-royal-family/is-prince-harry-buying-meghan-markle-a-mansion-in-la-17316)
^ The man doesn't have 27 million LOL ... anyways ... in a place like Toronto where REAL celebs like Justin Timberlake manage to stay under the radar while filming a movie and is known as a hiding place for REAL celebs looking for privacy I wonder how the mean papas manage to photograph poor Megan DAILY :coy: ...
^ Meghan was under the radar until Harry confirmed she was his girlfriend just as Autumn Kelly was Until it was revealed she was Peter Philips girlfriend. Sorry but once the paps get wind of a potential royal romance the media stalks unlike celebs. They are hoping to catch the royal to sell the papers.
^ You gotta wonder though ... are those paps local or are publications like The Daily Fail and Just Jared transferring their paps to Toronto to stalk poor snowflake 24/7? Cressida was never photographed and she lived in London ... and they knew she was dating Harry ... so that sounds like an excuse to me ... what papers is she selling going out of Yoga class? I can understand a so awaited picture of the two in the same Continent ... but no paper is selling anything with pictures of this zlist going out of Yoga class ...
^^^ hollywood directors film in Canada because it's a lot cheaper than shooting a film or tv show lIke somewhere in LA and new york . An a list actor can persuade directors to film in the U.S. Not a c list one.
The paparazzi are freezing their bums off in Toronto looking for accessories that indicates , how much in love they are and it's sad. And she is making all of harry's exes look more saint like and the complete opposite of desperate.
^ Annnnnnnnnnnd ... she managed to take Harry of the "magnificent" group ... it's the "magnificent 6" now Liz , Phil , Chuck , Cam , Will , Kate ... Harry is out ... wonder if Chuck's people were sending Prince Dim a message with that headline ... they are famous for it ... Harry is gonna regret not thinking with his right head a couple of Months from now ... his position in the Royal Family and his popularity are gone and I don't think he can get them back especially since his choice of "girlfriend" is making Kate look GREAT ...
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Prince Harry is certainly on a tightrope , presently, but I don't think he has lost his popularity YET.. Depends what happens in the next few weeks, especially with the holidays around the corner. I hope that her using the media to promote herself (and who else would it be?) Harry sees the bigger picture..
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Quote from: Eri on December 12, 2016, 01:21:06 PM
^ Annnnnnnnnnnd ... she managed to take Harry of the "magnificent" group ... it's the "magnificent 6" now Liz , Phil , Chuck , Cam , Will , Kate ... Harry is out ... wonder if Chuck's people were sending Prince Dim a message with that headline ... they are famous for it ... Harry is gonna regret not thinking with his right head a couple of Months from now ... his position in the Royal Family and his popularity are gone and I don't think he can get them back especially since his choice of "girlfriend" is making Kate look GREAT ...
I don't think Harry has lost popularity at all. Why is he going to regret anything? His position in the royal family is here to stay. I don't get the trashing of Meghan. Harry moved on from Cressida ages ago so she did not "steal" him away. Maybe they care about each other.
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Quote from: Eri on December 12, 2016, 12:52:33 PM
^ You gotta wonder though ... are those paps local or are publications like The Daily Fail and Just Jared transferring their paps to Toronto to stalk poor snowflake 24/7? Cressida was never photographed and she lived in London ... and they knew she was dating Harry ... so that sounds like an excuse to me ... what papers is she selling going out of Yoga class? I can understand a so awaited picture of the two in the same Continent ... but no paper is selling anything with pictures of this zlist going out of Yoga class ...
Cressida was photographed all the time and she posed for the cameras too. Why is Meghan "z list" in your thoughts? If there were nothing to it, Harry would not have made it public that she is his girlfriend.
Hi guys. I have just registered on this forum although I have been a lurker for years. One of the things that has really piqued my interest is the idea of a "suitable bride". I would have thought that after the Charles-Diana debacle, few people would ever put pressure on a royal to marry someone or not to marry someone??
Quote from: Eri on December 12, 2016, 01:21:06 PM
^ Annnnnnnnnnnd ... she managed to take Harry of the "magnificent" group ... it's the "magnificent 6" now Liz , Phil , Chuck , Cam , Will , Kate ... Harry is out ... wonder if Chuck's people were sending Prince Dim a message with that headline ... they are famous for it ... Harry is gonna regret not thinking with his right head a couple of Months from now ... his position in the Royal Family and his popularity are gone and I don't think he can get them back especially since his choice of "girlfriend" is making Kate look GREAT ...
Mm has exposed a side of harry that no one especially his fans, expected to see. The disastrous letter almost completely damaged the tour. His actions at the end of it, gave people the impression that not only did he or kp lied to reporters but wasted tax payers money to run off the toronto for like a day and a half. He laughed when someone at the engagement, where his rpos were asked how was toronto. He's still popular but its for things unworthy of respect. Can't believe anyone thought he was the type to marry soon. He's a commitment phobe
Quote from: Kinkade on December 11, 2016, 03:00:07 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:OMG :lol: :lol: :lol: This IS hilariously accurate. I keep laughing at the (Almost A ) Princess Diaries comment...
And if anybody else thinks she "needs" social media to promote her work... take note, She hasn't really posted anything to promote SUITS in the past weeks. And Suits is going to start again soon, (yes, I watch that show so I follow Gabriel Macht and Patrick Adams). Meghan isn't promoting the show nor her "work", just only herself. :cloud9:(look at me, look at me... :no: :wacko:)
If I thought Prince Harry was going to take this path in his love life, there are so many lovely English, Irish, Welsh Scottish and true Canadian girls, without baggage, I would have been pushing for Pippa, back in the day. Keep it all in the family, so to speak....IMO
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I admit I am one of those fans who thought Harry to be the more rational, dutiful one. I am used to William's tantrums, but Harry, I thought knew better. Turns out they were both the same? I am not fully there, but closer.
Americans who have not been following the royal family love this pairing and regard any criticism of MM as racist. They should have seen the bashing both Chelsy and Cressida received. Compared to the 35 year-old MM, both ladies look better now I have to say.
MM loves attention, having friends at higher places, being famous. She's had the biggest catch of her life, thinks she is in a fairy tale and milking it without realising the consequences. Exploiting BRF relations is a no-no, royalty is not celebrity. PW and PH dislike media and are very private. I think having grown up in England for Chelsy and being British for Cressida, they knew much better.
Oh and she skipped a friend's wedding not to steal the bride's thunder. People who criticize Kate for doing that now say they love Meghan for being so considerate. Okay.
Maybe she didn't want to attend her friend's wedding considering none of her paps were invited.
^You got that right or she was not invited at all. What kind of self important twit would think she would overshadow the bride. And she wonders why people are not bowing to her... I can't believe this woman is 35, Yikes.
Quote from: psm on December 12, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
I admit I am one of those fans who thought Harry to be the more rational, dutiful one. I am used to William's tantrums, but Harry, I thought knew better. Turns out they were both the same? I am not fully there, but closer.
Americans who have not been following the royal family love this pairing and regard any criticism of MM as racist. They should have seen the bashing both Chelsy and Cressida received. Compared to the 35 year-old MM, both ladies look better now I have to say.
MM loves attention, having friends at higher places, being famous. She's had the biggest catch of her life, thinks she is in a fairy tale and milking it without realising the consequences. Exploiting BRF relations is a no-no, royalty is not celebrity. PW and PH dislike media and are very private. I think having grown up in England for Chelsy and being British for Cressida, they knew much better.
Oh and she skipped a friend's wedding not to steal the bride's thunder. People who criticize Kate for doing that now say they love Meghan for being so considerate. Okay.
I think this may only be rumor. Kate was "excused" from not showing up at weddings so not to eclipse the bride. It is speculation. I think the same can be said for Meghan. There were even odd rumors of Kate not attending Pippa's wedding as to not "eclipse" her.
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Quote from: Eri on December 12, 2016, 01:21:06 PM
^ Annnnnnnnnnnd ... she managed to take Harry of the "magnificent" group ... it's the "magnificent 6" now Liz , Phil , Chuck , Cam , Will , Kate ... Harry is out ... wonder if Chuck's people were sending Prince Dim a message with that headline ... they are famous for it ... Harry is gonna regret not thinking with his right head a couple of Months from now ... his position in the Royal Family and his popularity are gone and I don't think he can get them back especially since his choice of "girlfriend" is making Kate look GREAT ...
Mm has exposed a side of harry that no one especially his fans, expected to see. The disastrous letter almost completely damaged the tour. His actions at the end of it, gave people the impression that not only did he or kp lied to reporters but wasted tax payers money to run off the toronto for like a day and a half. He laughed when someone at the engagement, where his rpos were asked how was toronto. He's still popular but its for things unworthy of respect. Can't believe anyone thought he was the type to marry soon. He's a commitment phobe
I don't think Harry is unpopular now. I think it barely a blip on the radar about the Toronto trip. I don't think people are really that interested in this. Harry is still young. I doubt he's like Prince Albert of Monaco who waited until being fifty plus to get married.
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 12, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
Hi guys. I have just registered on this forum although I have been a lurker for years. One of the things that has really piqued my interest is the idea of a "suitable bride". I would have thought that after the Charles-Diana debacle, few people would ever put pressure on a royal to marry someone or not to marry someone??
Charles IMO put pressure on himself to marry. He was the one who said 30 was a good age to marry and he actually proposed to two other women pre-Diana. He was also said to be serious about Davina Sheffield. Technically, since there is a line of succession, Charles did not have to get married at all.
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Why would Harry be losing his popularity? Because this time he is dating a woman with content? If he did not lose popularity when he dated those "airhead" girls, why would he lose now? :hehe:
I loved that letter, showed a man in love defending his girlfriend from the jealous and embittered people. :teehee:
Meghan would obfuscate the grooms yes, everyone would stay on top of her, reporters, photographers ... the bride and groom would be forgotten. Now she is Prince Harry's girlfriend. :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
^ How is a woman who has a law degree and another graduated college, considered airheads. It's interesting how some fans of meg like to insult those who aren't fans of hers. Then turn around and insult his previous girlfriends. As if ridiculing his exes and call them all sorts of names is fine, just as long as they like meg.
Quote from: Cat00 on December 12, 2016, 06:41:25 PM
I loved that letter, showed a man in love defending his girlfriend from the jealous and embittered people. :teehee:
I'm interested to know why you call people "jealous" and "embittered"?
@Cat00 - are you implying they want to marry Harry? He is, when all said an done an unemployed man in his thirties. However, I realise an HRH does strange things to some.
A lot to do with MM is media outlets jumping to conclusions about what she supposedly says, does, means on various occasions. As far as I know, and I've been following this romance ever since the letter just like every one else, Maghan's not actually said anything about any of these things that have come up in the Press.
She certainly didn't come out with a statement saying she didn't attend that wedding in California because she didn't want to overshadow the bride and groom. It's inevitable in filming that some actors and actresses are closer than others. So what if one actor from Suits was at the wedding and Meghan wasn't invited. Neither bride nor groom invited the entire cast of their shows to their wedding. If they'd invited everyone from Suits but Meghan then there would be something to discuss. That didn't happen however.
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Hi guys. I have just registered on this forum although I have been a lurker for years.
Welcome to the Forum :flower:
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MM has been using social media to drop clues or to simply troll so media have something to write about. She is also not being discreet, as in the way she's been using her accessories. I don't agree with the argument where else is she going to wear her necklace. She can keep it under a scarf or simply not wear it when going out unless she wants it to be photographed.
Also her relatives talked about her relationship extensively.
She is surrounded by entertainment business types, who are used to being in communication with media. Hence the constant sources, which are credible since her contacts have access to reporters and use PR people.
I still wonder why this relationship was rolled out the way it did. Either the couple hinted it on purpose because it got serious very fast, as in they are talking about getting married, if not already engaged. I initially thought this was the case until I decided MM is a little too thirsty. I now consider that the leak came from MM's circle.
Btw I am from Canada. Huge names are constantly in Toronto shooting movies and they are very rarely papped. I know the going price for a couple photo would be huge, but this still doesn't explain the constant photographing of her. I don't think they will get them here. Probably on their upcoming vacation. Both princes have been regularly photographed with their girlfriends on vacation, even honeymoon. So we will get the photo soon.
I'm disappointed in Harry. Not because she fell for her initially, she is gorgeous and independent and age appropriate, so good for him. But his handling since then and their mutual immaturity. Wth with matching bracelets and hormonal two day visits in breach of royal protocol. And of course MM's thirst.
Uncle Gary talked very indiscreetly about the relationship of Kate and WIlliam, pre their engagement. Kate also used the media to "win back" William. Kate now is part of the family and this behavior did not disqualify her. MM's relatives speak out but it is hardly taboo now since Kate got to be a royal despite it all. Harry is one for 'matching bracelets.' He and Chelsy Davy did the same thing. I am not disappointed in him because I think it too early to tell plus both of these people are free to walk away and dating does not necessarily lead to marriage. I think Harry would have gotten criticized if he spoke of marriage too soon. He would have been accused of being too impulsive in that case. Kate and William BTW were married when they broke royal protocol when they skipped out on a royal duty to go to that place in France. Also William was reported to have skipped out on his ambulance work to go on a hunting weekend. Harry and Meghan are not engaged so I think some slack should be cut for them
Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 12, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
Hi guys. I have just registered on this forum although I have been a lurker for years. One of the things that has really piqued my interest is the idea of a "suitable bride". I would have thought that after the Charles-Diana debacle, few people would ever put pressure on a royal to marry someone or not to marry someone??
Hi and welcome
@royalanthropologist .
I would hope that no one ever has to face pressure to marry someone else. I tend to believe that QEII and the DoE rethought and revised the dating rules for Edward when his elder siblings' marriages collapsed in the 1990's. Edward and Sophie had the longest courtship of any of QEII's children. Hopefully the Queen and DoE's children have adopted a similar policy for their adult children so that potential brides/grooms can truly understand the expectations of marriage to a member of the BRF.
Well my examples were in response to a post about how MM hasn't said anything. Her circle has talked, leaked and she's subtly communicated through her posts. So I don't buy that she's been utterly silent.
I think Kate was hungry for the title, but this is slightly different. I guess I hold royalty to a better standard than your average celebrity, so my impressions of MM as a minor celebrity courting attention upon bagging a major bachelor yields a negative conclusion. She could have conducted herself better, more discreetly without hurting her business which is built around her social media presence.
My disappointment in Harry is twofold.
One is the letter which upon my first reading I regarded to be a very romantic gesture and as a minority person who has suffered from racism I guess I was really impressed he talked about it. However upon further consideration, I came to the conclusion that just by changing the wording or communicating through other channels he could have still come against the racism and sexism, without sounding like his brother whining about media intrusion. Also he could have done this without acknowledging the relationship which has only added immense amount of fuel to the fire.
Now all articles cite the letter and can say, officially confirmed. How does this help with his desire of privacy and his request for media to stop following MM? He has in the past complained that people marry him to any woman he talks to, that he needs to nurture a relationship without outside pressure, yet releasing that letter now caused everyone to conclude this is way more serious and everyone's expecting an engagement announcement. I know I am, and considering how short their relationship has been and how little time they've spent together, I think it would be a disaster.
Also the wording had clear North American tone to it, which the DM article confirmed. So MM misjudged, or egged him on to publicly acknowledge her, or went full activist, which is something admirable, but it's just trouble for BRF.
The second misstep was Harry's lying and flying to Toronto in breach of royal protocol. This was an absolute no for me. It was immature, ill-concieved and one of them should have acted as the adult. And guess what, if my initial admiration of MM were to hold true, she should have acted like the older, wiser person who had more life experience. However she's been party to a spoiled behaviour which confirmed what's known about most actors, they are attention-hungry, egotistical and usually immature.
So we'll see where this leads. As much as I'd love to see Harry with a woman who is not BBB, MM has so far left a bad taste in my mouth. I remember the things I've criticized about Chelsy, and how they were so minor compared to this lady, I kind of wish they went back together. Here is something I never thought I'd say.
Quote from: Vesper on December 08, 2016, 07:33:14 PM
^^ And I have the opposite view. While I agree she's more intelligent and articulate than you know who, she also has some very strong negative attributes that are far more dangerous for the monarchy. Miss outspoken - I'm a great feminist - which is all a show anyway, is going to have a rude awakening if she marries in. What happens when she has to fall in line and her famewhoring is limited? I foresee the airing of the dirty laundry that will make Diana and Fergie look docile. The way this relationship started and was unveiled will be how the marriage between the two will end, full of drama and acrimony. She's an actress and will get high on the publicity.
I agree if she is his choice,fine!!
If he is her choice, fine!!
Each other's choice, FINE!!! Best to them. Everyone likes to see a happy ending.
As I have said before, BRF is not celebrityville for the BRF, the B govt., the country, the people there, and the Commonwealth.
For being in the BRF, most world reknown, most wealthy, and more, there are unbelievable , undeniable freedoms that one cannot imagine. The wealthiest of the world's wealth cannot even have or imagine. Priceless jewels, estate used for a personal home ( Anmer Hall, Highgrove, etc.) historic castles/palaces, all for your use and paid for the by the govt., or the duchy's or yearly income for the govt. Fabulous vacations free of charge. National security which can be or not be sometimes a feeling of imprisonment. Meeting the worlds' leaders, going , free of charge to shows/concerts and plays and other forms of entertainment such as sports things like Wimbledon.
Designers sending clothing or charging less than they would for their wealthy people or entertainers.
The list of things are endless. Oh, do not forget the fancy personal cars-Rolls Royce, Jaquar, Range Rovers, etc. Sometimes they might have to rough it and ride in a priceless carriage for like for Ascot.
Don't worry ever about running errands other than shopping . There are staff for all of those mundane normal people chores like coking, cleaning, etc.
They have freedoms to have a real life as in friends, doing normal things, etc.
Behind the palace walls, they live normal lives in their world.
The TRADEOFF. Here is where I agree with Vesper and I have posted over and over. Can MM realize what she is getting into to No turning back. TPTB will have her whole life planned out from names to chose from for her kids, godparents to select from to her funeral procession one day. Oh she and PH can determine when they want a child, LOL. Gone long gone are the days when TPTB witness the consummation of the marriage and labor and delivery of the HRH heirs.
Can she withstand Black America bullying her? Can she do her job? I mean I, we are no where near that world she may enter, but we are just big fans and have read how it works. the mystery, magic, privacy, respect is what keeps that machine going. YES, PC, CPB, then PD and PAndrew and Fergie still have done much to destroy it.
I believe that PH, like a lot of people his age or who wants to settle down, is looking for keeps and perhaps MM is too. I posted before, gessch, PW and his wife, C, and oh then there is PH tagging along to events...a third wheel is what we say in The USA.
IMHO, MM is far more advanced in single adult life than K was. PH is far more dedicated to working, his duties and being in the public eye and with the media than PW is at . Thing is, PH and his wife whoever she will be are not next up. PW and K are.
Quote from: psm on December 13, 2016, 02:02:23 AM
Well my examples were in response to a post about how MM hasn't said anything. Her circle has talked, leaked and she's subtly communicated through her posts. So I don't buy that she's been utterly silent.
I think Kate was hungry for the title, but this is slightly different. I guess I hold royalty to a better standard than your average celebrity, so my impressions of MM as a minor celebrity courting attention upon bagging a major bachelor yields a negative conclusion. She could have conducted herself better, more discreetly without hurting her business which is built around her social media presence.
My disappointment in Harry is twofold.
One is the letter which upon my first reading I regarded to be a very romantic gesture and as a minority person who has suffered from racism I guess I was really impressed he talked about it. However upon further consideration, I came to the conclusion that just by changing the wording or communicating through other channels he could have still come against the racism and sexism, without sounding like his brother whining about media intrusion. Also he could have done this without acknowledging the relationship which has only added immense amount of fuel to the fire.
Now all articles cite the letter and can say, officially confirmed. How does this help with his desire of privacy and his request for media to stop following MM? He has in the past complained that people marry him to any woman he talks to, that he needs to nurture a relationship without outside pressure, yet releasing that letter now caused everyone to conclude this is way more serious and everyone's expecting an engagement announcement. I know I am, and considering how short their relationship has been and how little time they've spent together, I think it would be a disaster.
Also the wording had clear North American tone to it, which the DM article confirmed. So MM misjudged, or egged him on to publicly acknowledge her, or went full activist, which is something admirable, but it's just trouble for BRF.
The second misstep was Harry's lying and flying to Toronto in breach of royal protocol. This was an absolute no for me. It was immature, ill-concieved and one of them should have acted as the adult. And guess what, if my initial admiration of MM were to hold true, she should have acted like the older, wiser person who had more life experience. However she's been party to a spoiled behaviour which confirmed what's known about most actors, they are attention-hungry, egotistical and usually immature.
So we'll see where this leads. As much as I'd love to see Harry with a woman who is not BBB, MM has so far left a bad taste in my mouth. I remember the things I've criticized about Chelsy, and how they were so minor compared to this lady, I kind of wish they went back together. Here is something I never thought I'd say.
Thanks for the welcome. Another person once told me that maybe they should go back to the old system of marrying each other (e.g. European royalty). For example the problems Beatrice and Eugene are facing is precisely because they were not married off to be queens and princesses in other kingdoms. Imagine if either of them was a crown princess of Norway, Denmark or Netherlands? There would be no more fuss about what to do with them. Also imagine if Madeline of Sweden was William's wife. The British monarchy would experience a revival not seen since the days of Diana and this time they would have a princess that had seen it all. She would know what to expect and what to do about the media. Maybe marrying "commoners" is not what it is cracked up to be after all? :partaay:
The thirst is so real and so evident, the dislike that Meghan is receiving has nothing to do w/ her being bi-racial.She's not the first nor will she be the last bi-racial woman on this planet to face so many challenges in their respective careers. She's not the first actress either to raise this concern. Case in point, look at Rashida Jones... who graduated from Harvard , btw.
And oh look, she's papped walking her dog in Toronto in full outfit and make-up. Have you ever seen A-list celebs in Los Angeles or NYC walking their dogs or out w/ their children? Jen Garner, Gwyneth Paltrow, Naomi Watts, Mila Kunis... etc, etc. They're wearing T-shirts, sweatpants, sneakers and no makeup.
Her Social Media only promotes herself. If you have any doubts, compare hers w/ her co-stars Sarah Rafferty, Gabriel Macht or Patrick Adams? They've been promoting Suits. And when they show glimpses of their private lives, it is warm, funny and full of love, not staged or aimed to show a certain "chic lifestyle".
Truth is, I'm disappointed in her and Harry. I had a higher expectation from them because they are supposedly older. Like many here, the way they've handled this whole thing has really turned me off. What more the opinions & reactions of British citizens who support the BRF through their taxes. And now Canadian taxpayers have to pay for security also.
As for marrying co-royals... I think their parents (previous generations) received that pressure and are trying to not put it on the new generation. Plus, I can't imagine the new generation having the selfless patience and fortitude needed to stay in that marriage even when the partner isn't ideal ... e.g. is the former King and Queen of Spain JC and Sofia. If rumors of his antics and misbehavior are true, then I admire her fortitude & honor in staying in that marriage. For the previous generations, duty and country usually comes first (w/ some exceptions like the Duke of Windsor). Although I agree, if they marry co-Royals or other aristocrats, everything would be handled better and the duty and responsibility expected from them wouldn't come as a surprise. SO far, Prince Guillame and Princess Stephanie have been handling their duties just dine.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 13, 2016, 04:31:38 AM
Quote from: psm on December 13, 2016, 02:02:23 AM
Well my examples were in response to a post about how MM hasn't said anything. Her circle has talked, leaked and she's subtly communicated through her posts. So I don't buy that she's been utterly silent.
I think Kate was hungry for the title, but this is slightly different. I guess I hold royalty to a better standard than your average celebrity, so my impressions of MM as a minor celebrity courting attention upon bagging a major bachelor yields a negative conclusion. She could have conducted herself better, more discreetly without hurting her business which is built around her social media presence.
My disappointment in Harry is twofold.
One is the letter which upon my first reading I regarded to be a very romantic gesture and as a minority person who has suffered from racism I guess I was really impressed he talked about it. However upon further consideration, I came to the conclusion that just by changing the wording or communicating through other channels he could have still come against the racism and sexism, without sounding like his brother whining about media intrusion. Also he could have done this without acknowledging the relationship which has only added immense amount of fuel to the fire.
Now all articles cite the letter and can say, officially confirmed. How does this help with his desire of privacy and his request for media to stop following MM? He has in the past complained that people marry him to any woman he talks to, that he needs to nurture a relationship without outside pressure, yet releasing that letter now caused everyone to conclude this is way more serious and everyone's expecting an engagement announcement. I know I am, and considering how short their relationship has been and how little time they've spent together, I think it would be a disaster.
Also the wording had clear North American tone to it, which the DM article confirmed. So MM misjudged, or egged him on to publicly acknowledge her, or went full activist, which is something admirable, but it's just trouble for BRF.
The second misstep was Harry's lying and flying to Toronto in breach of royal protocol. This was an absolute no for me. It was immature, ill-concieved and one of them should have acted as the adult. And guess what, if my initial admiration of MM were to hold true, she should have acted like the older, wiser person who had more life experience. However she's been party to a spoiled behaviour which confirmed what's known about most actors, they are attention-hungry, egotistical and usually immature.
So we'll see where this leads. As much as I'd love to see Harry with a woman who is not BBB, MM has so far left a bad taste in my mouth. I remember the things I've criticized about Chelsy, and how they were so minor compared to this lady, I kind of wish they went back together. Here is something I never thought I'd say.
Thanks for the welcome. Another person once told me that maybe they should go back to the old system of marrying each other (e.g. European royalty). For example the problems Beatrice and Eugene are facing is precisely because they were not married off to be queens and princesses in other kingdoms. Imagine if either of them was a crown princess of Norway, Denmark or Netherlands? There would be no more fuss about what to do with them. Also imagine if Madeline of Sweden was William's wife. The British monarchy would experience a revival not seen since the days of Diana and this time they would have a princess that had seen it all. She would know what to expect and what to do about the media. Maybe marrying "commoners" is not what it is cracked up to be after all? :partaay:
IMO the commoners who have married royalty in recent years are doing quite well as Queen or Princess Consorts (Maxima, Mathilde, Letizia Jetsum, Salma) or as the spouse of the heir-to-the-throne (Mary, Mette Marit, Stephanie, Daniel). The only one who has truly struggled is CP Masako of Japan and she was diagnosed with an adjustment disorder similar to her mother-in-law's.
And we do have among the older generation examples of equal royal marriages. QEII and the DoE are still going strong, but then again King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia have certainly had their marital problems.
Not sure if going back to the tradition of royals marrying royals is the way to go. At least if the pool is opened to a larger group of people there is the greater chance that they'll find someone with whom they are truly compatible.
You are quite right. Many commoners have done well but poor Beatrice and Eugene are left looking like a pair of bad pennies. There is an open season on them in the Daily Mail and Express. I bet their parents wished they had planned for them in adulthood. As for Meghan, I think that Britain is not yet quite ready for a princess Meghan. Lol. :hehe:
I think the topic of marrying royals to each other or not is an interesting. I don't know if this is the proper thread for it.
Queens Maxima, Mathilde & Letizia have done well and earned the respect & love of most. Personally, I like them. I think most importantly is that though they're intelligent, well bred women w/ their own personalities, their main goals is to help boost and support their partners to make them more respectable monarchs for their respective countries and not gain attention just for themselves.
I have a special regard for CP Masako. Such an intelligent and smart woman who has been put under so much pressure to give birth to a son. She was hesitant to marry Naruhito but I guess she did it partly as a duty to her country. I have to give credit to Naruhito also for standing up for her against TPTB. There were rumors he was asked to put her aside, w/c he refused. If you think that European Royal families are controlling, it is nothing compared to Asian Royal families. The pressure to perform their duty and fulfill their responsibility is so strong. NO wonder she went under depression.
This is all so weird ... he dropped Mollie King and Flee because he thought they were leaking to the press and he got his friends to say so in the press while this woman (and her family) are making both of them look like class acts ... also ... she seems to have no intention of making any sacrifices but use him for attention ... she lives a Continent away and I can't see how this will last ... other weird things to note ... he makes an ignorant statement demanding privacy knowing full well ( unless he is even more stupid than I think him to be) that would triple the attention and him like someone on another board pointed out visiting her after his Tour making it officially a joke and bringing him incredibly bad PR when he could have easily visited her at this particularly free time without any publicity ...
^ She lives a continent away and you can't see how this will last? It worked in the case of Autumn and Peter.
^ We are talking about Harry ... he tried it with Chelsy and it didn't work ... they broke up each time she stayed in London for more than a weekend ... and I don't think he feels about Megan how he felt about Chelsy (Chelsy we miss you :wub:) yeah I am on and off with Chelsy ... once I liked her than not so much now she is looking like a good idea to me again ... let's hope those two find their way back to each other again ...
I think that any potential princess must also woo her potential "people". That means trying to show the public that you are suited to the role and committed to it. The biggest problem with royals today is that they want an "ordinary" life with all its privileges of privacy yet they are happy to take the privileges of being a prince/princess. Calling your potential "subjects" misogynistic racists is not a good starting point. I think people are quite entitled to set some criteria for who and who cannot be a princess since they will eventually pay for them in some way or the other. Meghan and Harry should not bite the hand that feeds them. That unfortunate statement spoke to me of a precious young man whose whims have been indulged all his life. Now that people critique his choice of girlfriend, he lashes out. Of course Harry is quite free to marry whoever he chooses (without criticism) as long as he gives up the princely status. The other alternative is to put up and shut up ala Camilla style. One sure thing is that the British people "will not go quietly"...to quote a certain famous person.
It does not matter what you say, harry and Meghan still going strong, Now she is in London Christmas shopping for trees and gifts. The Queen, Charles, William are all accepting her and let them be. I cannot get why you all are stressing yourself out over this.
Meg and harry are in the palace KP and laughing about the nay sayer. Harry chose meg despite all the wrong.
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^ Weird YOU are the one to say that ... you called Cressida every name in the book like it made a difference ... let others do the same if they don't like Megan ... still NO pictures ... photographers only do their job when she feels like having a pap stroll apparently ...
It is a very foolish prince that does not care what his people think. Some have lost their heads behaving like that. :hehe: But seriously I don't think people hate Meghan per say. They are just expressing some reservations. I think that the best way is to try and take their reservations on board (Meet me halfway kind of thing). Telling them to butt out might sound empowered but eventually it makes you lose supporters. The monarchy in modern times is nothing without the great unwashed masses.
Quote from: michelle0187 on December 12, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
^ How is a woman who has a law degree and another graduated college, considered airheads. It's interesting how some fans of meg like to insult those who aren't fans of hers. Then turn around and insult his previous girlfriends. As if ridiculing his exes and call them all sorts of names is fine, just as long as they like meg.
First, I'm not a Meghan fan, I just liked her because I like intelligent, determined, independent women who earn their own money, I hate futile people. And since when have a degree makes person mature? I know several people with more than one college who are completely futile, childish, idiots and airhead. And just as you attack Meghan, I also have the right to speak of Harry's ex-girlfriends because I did not like them
It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks about this relationship the bottom line is as far as Harry is concerned the only opinions that matter will be The Queens and his father depending on if he decides to marry her and who is on the throne. As Fifth in line he is still required to see permission to marry.
Quote from: SophieChloe on December 12, 2016, 08:36:44 PM
Quote from: Cat00 on December 12, 2016, 06:41:25 PM
I loved that letter, showed a man in love defending his girlfriend from the jealous and embittered people. :teehee:
I'm interested to know why you call people "jealous" and "embittered"? @Cat00 - are you implying they want to marry Harry? He is, when all said an done an unemployed man in his thirties. However, I realise an HRH does strange things to some.
To me people these people who are attacking Meghan are envious yes, they wanted to be in her place. And if Harry is a 30 year old unemployed, he must have his qualities, otherwise did not have as much woman wasting time in desperate forums, attacking his current girlfriend and arguing about his life
If Harry doesn't care what people think he will be just another Andrew ... his uncle is like that and look where it got him ... I think WE all wish he doesn't go that route ... too bad he is already there if you ask me ...
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Quote from: Cat00 on December 13, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
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Quote from: Cat00 on December 12, 2016, 06:41:25 PM
I loved that letter, showed a man in love defending his girlfriend from the jealous and embittered people. :teehee:
I'm interested to know why you call people "jealous" and "embittered"? @Cat00 - are you implying they want to marry Harry? He is, when all said an done an unemployed man in his thirties. However, I realise an HRH does strange things to some.
To me people these people who are attacking Meghan are envious yes, they wanted to be in her place. And if Harry is a 30 year old unemployed, he must have his qualities, otherwise did not have as much woman wasting time in desperate forums, attacking his current girlfriend and arguing about his life
Hmmm ... NO ONE wanted Harry ... that's how he ended with Megan in the first place ... THREE years alone ...there were NO lines forming to date him so I would say no one is jealous of Megan she can have Harry ... still no pictures ...
How beautiful!!! :hug: :hug: :) :)
Prince Harry spotted carrying 6ft Christmas tree after shopping trip with girlfriend Meghan Markle - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-spotted-carrying-6ft-9448952)
Harry reportedly was dating during that time period. He obviously was not pining away for his exes.
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 13, 2016, 02:01:54 PM
I think that any potential princess must also woo her potential "people". That means trying to show the public that you are suited to the role and committed to it. The biggest problem with royals today is that they want an "ordinary" life with all its privileges of privacy yet they are happy to take the privileges of being a prince/princess. Calling your potential "subjects" misogynistic racists is not a good starting point. I think people are quite entitled to set some criteria for who and who cannot be a princess since they will eventually pay for them in some way or the other. Meghan and Harry should not bite the hand that feeds them. That unfortunate statement spoke to me of a precious young man whose whims have been indulged all his life. Now that people critique his choice of girlfriend, he lashes out. Of course Harry is quite free to marry whoever he chooses (without criticism) as long as he gives up the princely status. The other alternative is to put up and shut up ala Camilla style. One sure thing is that the British people "will not go quietly"...to quote a certain famous person.
Camilla did not put up and shut up. She was actively undermining Charles' first wife, even going to the Sun Editor for ten years with "her side." Of course these princes are spoiled and coddled. William and Charles are no different than Harry in that regard.
^^ you crossed the line to assume fans who don't like meg, to be bitter and jealous. If you know that you're not a fan of her as well, then what I wrote shouldn't offend you.you called his exes "airheads" and I was asking how are they are considered airheads, when obviously they are well educated and worked, just like her. But you keep doing you since you feel justified in your remarks about his exes. I'll have my own opinions, and you keep yours.
Harry and Meghan doing a bit of interior decorating of Nott Cott I see. A photo of the two of them together shouldn't be too far away.
Prince Harry spotted carrying 6ft Christmas tree after shopping trip with girlfriend Meghan Markle - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-spotted-carrying-6ft-9448952)
Megan is no different than any of his exes they had Uni Degrees and Cressida and Flee are actresses just like her ... they didn't manage to cost Harry his popularity though ... even people who didn't like Cressida in the end still liked Harry but this one ... she has made him very unpopular and I wouldn't want to be him when the Yearly Engagement Court Count is out ...
Hi Sandy. By saying Camilla putting up and shutting up I meant taking the criticism of the public (sometimes justified and at other times unjustified). You notice that since her wedding, she has not answered back despite the criticism she gets. That is how you handle criticism. I would even go as far as saying that Camilla would do well to do a public apology for the shenanigans of the 1980s and 1990s; certainly before she is crowned Queen. I know some would like her to fade into obscurity but that is not going to happen. She might not get too many additional supporters but at least it will give some acknowledgement that what happened was wrong and in many ways unfair. I presume she has already made her peace with Diana's children so it might be a good idea to make her peace with the British people. I think Mette Marie of Norway did something of the sort before her marriage. She was involved in drugs or something of the sort.
^^ Harry has 176 Royal engagements so far this year after his tour, and has two more coming up on the 19th and 20th of Deceember that will also be in the CC.
Kate has 136 Royal engagements so far and one on Wednesday with the Cubs, plus one on the 19th with William and Harry (Heads Together) and the Queen's Xmas lunch at BP on the 20th.
Meghan is the typical middle-class woman, knows to cook, take care of a house, Set up a Christmas Tree... quite unlike Harry's exes who should not know fry an egg :hehe: :hehe: These little things in life, must be fascinating Harry.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 13, 2016, 03:02:39 PM
Hi Sandy. By saying Camilla putting up and shutting up I meant taking the criticism of the public (sometimes justified and at other times unjustified). You notice that since her wedding, she has not answered back despite the criticism she gets. That is how you handle criticism. I would even go as far as saying that Camilla would do well to do a public apology for the shenanigans of the 1980s and 1990s; certainly before she is crowned Queen. I know some would like her to fade into obscurity but that is not going to happen. She might not get too many additional supporters but at least it will give some acknowledgement that what happened was wrong and in many ways unfair. I presume she has already made her peace with Diana's children so it might be a good idea to make her peace with the British people. I think Mette Marie of Norway did something of the sort before her marriage. She was involved in drugs or something of the sort.
Camilla had Charles' support and even his spin doctoring at his disposal. With his friends and pals trashing Diana, an attempt was made to try to make Camilla look better--it did not work for all of "the public" though. Camilla does not have to answer back, Charles and his spin doctors do that for her. Why should she bother when she has megabucks of the Prince working on her image. I think Camilla will do fewer and fewer appearances as she gets older, she may well fade into the background.
I don't think she 'made peace' with Diana's children. I don't think she's the least bit sorry for what she did considering she wanted to attend Diana's Memorial Service and had to back off because of public outcry. The boys may "accept her" but may not be all that fond of her. They had really no choice in the matter in any case.
She had many opportunities to change her ways but never did. She is who she is.
Prince Harry and girlfriend Meghan Markle 'buy 6ft Christmas tree' near Kensington Palace | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4029146/Prince-Harry-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-buy-6ft-Christmas-tree-near-Kensington-Palace.html)
Quote from: sandy on December 13, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 13, 2016, 03:02:39 PM
Hi Sandy. By saying Camilla putting up and shutting up I meant taking the criticism of the public (sometimes justified and at other times unjustified). You notice that since her wedding, she has not answered back despite the criticism she gets. That is how you handle criticism. I would even go as far as saying that Camilla would do well to do a public apology for the shenanigans of the 1980s and 1990s; certainly before she is crowned Queen. I know some would like her to fade into obscurity but that is not going to happen. She might not get too many additional supporters but at least it will give some acknowledgement that what happened was wrong and in many ways unfair. I presume she has already made her peace with Diana's children so it might be a good idea to make her peace with the British people. I think Mette Marie of Norway did something of the sort before her marriage. She was involved in drugs or something of the sort.
Camilla had Charles' support and even his spin doctoring at his disposal. With his friends and pals trashing Diana, an attempt was made to try to make Camilla look better--it did not work for all of "the public" though. Camilla does not have to answer back, Charles and his spin doctors do that for her. Why should she bother when she has megabucks of the Prince working on her image. I think Camilla will do fewer and fewer appearances as she gets older, she may well fade into the background.
I don't think she 'made peace' with Diana's children. I don't think she's the least bit sorry for what she did considering she wanted to attend Diana's Memorial Service and had to back off because of public outcry. The boys may "accept her" but may not be all that fond of her. They had really no choice in the matter in any case.
She had many opportunities to change her ways but never did. She is who she is.
I really wish the British royal family in its entirety stops treating the Diana thing like some sort of plague (to be hidden and forgotten). Yes Diana made terrible mistakes but they too made mistakes (too many to go over again). What might have been a good idea is to embrace what Diana tried to do (friendlier, warmer approaches to monarchy). Briefing about Diana is in my view the wrong way to go. Both Charles and Camilla should have made a public apology and acknowledged their role in the tragedy. After that a properly memorial should have been constructed for his first wife. It just seems that the whole family fell out with Diana in such a bad way that they cannot quite bring themselves to forgive and move on. In order to crown Camilla they must destroy Diana (not necessary IMO because you can raise both women simultaneously) Every memorial is done grudgingly. My own nana was pushed out of her home in the same way and they ended up removing every single picture of her from the house. It caused so much rift in the family and so unnecessary. Why not just acknowledge that Diana was an important part of their history and move on. I think that the reason why so many Diana fans are unable to let go is because there is an impression that people have "got away with murder" and they will not even acknowledge that they did anything wrong. Who advises these people???? :no: Anyway apologies to the moderator for going off topic. Will return to the "Meghan Hatefest" later. :hehe:
Richard Eden reporting that Harry and Meghan are supposedly hosting a party tonight, (probably at KP)
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/richardaeden/status/808699147264069632?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
It in the Telegraph too.
Prince Harry and girlfriend Meghan Markle spotted buying Christmas tree together in south London (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/13/prince-harry-girlfriend-meghan-markle-spotted-buying-christmas/)
The store employees said that they were charming together and they were blissfully unaware that their jaws had dropped to the floor. The walked away holding hands as Prince carried the tree under his other arm.
I love it!!
Well so much for Harry not willing to be seen with Meghan hehehe :hehe:. Just because no one posted a picture it shows that people are willing to respect them. As I said before last time Meghan was visiting Harry was on duty at remembrance ceremonies as they are not yet engaged her attendance wasn't required as these were official engagements.
Can't wait to see pictures of the blessed couple. I'm predicting a shotgun wedding in three months time. I'm betting on it. :hehe:
Quote from: Vesper on December 13, 2016, 06:13:27 PM
Can't wait to see pictures of the blessed couple. I'm predicting a shotgun wedding in three months time. I'm betting on it. :hehe:
She really has got him good. Out goes that theory about Harry and blondes.
^That was always a silly assumption anyway. Sometimes you just get what you can get... especially if you're desperate.
^He or mm is desperate?
This relationship is messier than the past relationships, where almost everyone thought he only liked blondes.I hope no one is stanning them together because of the gf's race and hair color.
He's desperate. She WINS no matter what happens... until she wakes up one day to find that her freedom of expression is gone... then the real show will begin.
^ yup, exactly.
Quote from: Curryong on December 13, 2016, 02:57:34 PM
Harry and Meghan doing a bit of interior decorating of Nott Cott I see. A photo of the two of them together shouldn't be too far away.
Prince Harry spotted carrying 6ft Christmas tree after shopping trip with girlfriend Meghan Markle - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-spotted-carrying-6ft-9448952)
Yes I do believe that the previous occupants had painted the walls with a light pink color. :D Wonder if Harry has the same issues that William did with the low ceilings?
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 13, 2016, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 13, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: royalanthropologist on December 13, 2016, 03:02:39 PM
Hi Sandy. By saying Camilla putting up and shutting up I meant taking the criticism of the public (sometimes justified and at other times unjustified). You notice that since her wedding, she has not answered back despite the criticism she gets. That is how you handle criticism. I would even go as far as saying that Camilla would do well to do a public apology for the shenanigans of the 1980s and 1990s; certainly before she is crowned Queen. I know some would like her to fade into obscurity but that is not going to happen. She might not get too many additional supporters but at least it will give some acknowledgement that what happened was wrong and in many ways unfair. I presume she has already made her peace with Diana's children so it might be a good idea to make her peace with the British people. I think Mette Marie of Norway did something of the sort before her marriage. She was involved in drugs or something of the sort.
Camilla had Charles' support and even his spin doctoring at his disposal. With his friends and pals trashing Diana, an attempt was made to try to make Camilla look better--it did not work for all of "the public" though. Camilla does not have to answer back, Charles and his spin doctors do that for her. Why should she bother when she has megabucks of the Prince working on her image. I think Camilla will do fewer and fewer appearances as she gets older, she may well fade into the background.
I don't think she 'made peace' with Diana's children. I don't think she's the least bit sorry for what she did considering she wanted to attend Diana's Memorial Service and had to back off because of public outcry. The boys may "accept her" but may not be all that fond of her. They had really no choice in the matter in any case.
She had many opportunities to change her ways but never did. She is who she is.
I really wish the British royal family in its entirety stops treating the Diana thing like some sort of plague (to be hidden and forgotten). Yes Diana made terrible mistakes but they too made mistakes (too many to go over again). What might have been a good idea is to embrace what Diana tried to do (friendlier, warmer approaches to monarchy). Briefing about Diana is in my view the wrong way to go. Both Charles and Camilla should have made a public apology and acknowledged their role in the tragedy. After that a properly memorial should have been constructed for his first wife. It just seems that the whole family fell out with Diana in such a bad way that they cannot quite bring themselves to forgive and move on. In order to crown Camilla they must destroy Diana (not necessary IMO because you can raise both women simultaneously) Every memorial is done grudgingly. My own nana was pushed out of her home in the same way and they ended up removing every single picture of her from the house. It caused so much rift in the family and so unnecessary. Why not just acknowledge that Diana was an important part of their history and move on. I think that the reason why so many Diana fans are unable to let go is because there is an impression that people have "got away with murder" and they will not even acknowledge that they did anything wrong. Who advises these people???? :no: Anyway apologies to the moderator for going off topic. Will return to the "Meghan Hatefest" later. :hehe:
I agree that the best place to discuss Camilla, Charles and Diana would be in their respective forums. :)
:lol: OMG, it just occurred to me that Disney & Hallmark couldn't have written a better script for Harry & Meghan! (must be all the Hallmark Christmas movies coming out the past few weeks!). :lol: :lol:
I wonder when reality will sink in, then HBO & Netflix can take over the script. :royalsneeze: Then like someone stated, the real show begins. :nod: :partaay: :windsor1:
Why would Harry be desperate for any girlfriend. He's one of the most eligible bachelors in the world, well known, quite wealthy, great personality, from the best known Royal family in the world. There are plenty of singletons in their early thirties. He doesn't have to hurry into anything.
Since he's the most eligible bachelor in the world, whatever that really means, he is susceptible to fortune hunters and social climbers. He is desperate if he can't see the trap that one of those types is laying out for him right now, because let's be real here, she wouldn't give him the time of day, if not for who he is.
They are seen out in public together and some still aren't satisfied.
When have we seen them together? Do you have link to photos? Much appreciated!
^^^ well, we could say that about anyone in the public eye, couldn't we? Would Kate have looked at William twice if he wasn't who he was? If Felipe had been the local postman would a very successful newscaster called Letizia have given him the time of day? Would Maxima have fallen in love with Willem-Alexander, carpenter? Does he/she really love me for who I am is a question all famous people ask and is virtually an occupational hazard for men and women in the public eye.
We don't know for example if even Philip, a naval officer with little money, would have married a farmer's daughter named Elizabeth Windsor. Yet almost all these mentioned have had incredibly successful marriages for decades, in the case of the Queen and PP for nearly seventy years.
I don't know whether Harry and Meghan will marry. I don't know whether she is suitable for the BRF. However there have been cases in the past and in Europe where the woman concerned has been rejected by people in the royal family and has turned out to be a glorious success, such as Letizia. Others have appeared made for the role of princess and for one reason or another the marriage failed miserably and ended in turmoil and public vitriol, poor Diana for instance.
I'm sure Harry knows all about social climbers and women in it for the fame. He has after all dated all sorts of women since his teens.
He knows Meghan. We don't. He has spent time with her, had conversations with her. No-one commenting on Royal forums or blogs has, as far as I know.
Yet to read comments on social media blogs and forums, Twitter etc by some, you would think they know all about the relationship, all about Harry, all about Meghan and know best for him. In fact everyone is one the outside looking in. No-one except the couple concerned and perhaps their closest friends know anything about this relationship, not a sausage, not zip, not a thing.
Harry's not naive, doesn't need protection and if the couple do end up marrying it will no doubt be after a great deal of reflection, on both their parts, certainly on Harry's as he knows what life in the BRF is like.
1. Correct, I don't know them, but neither do those who are going on about disney princess Meghan luv Harry, love bracelet, Harry necklace and other teenybopper stuff.
2. I can assess a self promoter when I see one, and all you have to do is look at her social media and her lifestyle whatever. A fashion shoot using African children as a backdrop. Shameful.
3. Actors are known to be egotistical, manipulative and often fake, not some of the talented ones obviously, but Meghan is not one of those. The Meghans of the world rely on just PR to push their agenda and/or business.
No, Harry is not innocent at all, of that we agree. He has been screwing up since his teens, vegas, now this. He's living the lifestyle of a celebrity, no surprise there, you are the company you keep. Shallow people using each other.
I don't think Harry has been "screwing up." He has gotten into scrapes but no criminal behavior or anything scandalous. Harry is not innocent but he has been unfairly labeled the "bad" PRince with William practically made a saint. But WIlliam messed up too. He commandeered a helicopter to go to a stag party, did not show up for his ambulance duty, his father had to apologize for his behavior, driving a car at high speed on someone's estate, and he avoids full time duties. WIlliam and Kate are living the good life with giving little back. Meghan has had a career as an actress and yes, they do promote themselves. I don't think generalizations about those in the acting profession should be made. I don't see Harry as "shallow" either not remotely. Royals are about "image" and in that they are like performers. The "image" Charles tries to project is that of a jolly old geezer and William is trying hard to be "normal" and Kate sails on excuses and has had for years about her workshy attitude. Charles spent megabucks on a spin doctor.
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Quote from: Vesper on December 14, 2016, 12:59:19 AM
Since he's the most eligible bachelor in the world, whatever that really means, he is susceptible to fortune hunters and social climbers. He is desperate if he can't see the trap that one of those types is laying out for him right now, because let's be real here, she wouldn't give him the time of day, if not for who he is.
And as another poster said, that can be said of other royals too. WOuld Kate have waited 10 years for the average guy or put up with her being trashed by William's friends, or waged a media campaign to win the average guy back. I doubt it. But for William she put all on hold. Would Camilla have engaged in an affair with someone of little influence, no royal title, and little money? I doubt it. She was going for the gold. Harry and Meghan and they alone know how they feel about each other.
I don't know that I would characterise everyone in an entire profession as fake and manipulative. I have noticed an incredible number of people on social media stalking MM's IG and Twitter accounts, going over them with a fine tooth comb and then commenting negatively on them over several blogs and forums and other sites. I certainly don't consider that a really healthy activity!
Vegas, and the Nazi uniform that the tabloids bring up etc was years ago. He hardly leads a celebrity lifestyle when his closest friends, Skip, Guy Pelly, Jakie Warren, Mark Dyer are people he's known for years. Harry works hard for the IG and for Sentebale, and is a very popular member of the BRF according to polling year after year.
There are people around who are delighted Harryhas found romance again. I don't think regarding this as a good news story at the end of a rather miserable year as delusional. However, I don't believe in attacking people in the public eye automatically because they happen to be going out with a popular prince, either. Especially as these negative attacks will not make one iota of difference in Harry's decision, one way or another.
You see, this is where you're wrong. I don't see her in a favorable light so in your view any argument that doesn't kiss her feet is dismissed as attack. No, I'm not attacking her, I'm criticizing her. There is a big difference.
Meghan's social media: I only skim it here or when it's posted on the DM. I'm not interested in the drivel she is selling. End of.
Look at Hollywood and let me know the ratio of talented actors and those that are full of hot air. Okay. There are exceptions to every rule, of course. In that line of work, image is everything.
As for Harry, he's heading for the same path as uncle Andrew. I was a fan but not anymore. I don't pay for his cushy lifestyle so no sweat off my back. I'm a member of this forum so I comment on what I see.
Harry is not like Prince Andrew. Andrew for one thing rushed into a marriage to Sarah Ferguson (he settled for her after his relationship with Koo Stark was over). They are alike only in that they are both second sons and the "spare." They all have cushy lifestyles. I do not have a favorable opinion of William because I see him (and Kate) as workshy, who take more than they give. William has not shown up for all the hours at that ambulance job which I think he took to avoid working full time. William as the direct heir should be doing more and has been shirking. Harry dating Meghan does not make him a "bad" person. Meghan like other actresses goes in for self promotion. Actresses and actors who want to win awards for acting have agents to promote them and their films. That's part of the deal in being an actor or actress.
No, he's not, but you're missing my point. Harry is following up on his uncle's footsteps by dealing with a "brash American" - that's her quote - divorce woman. A person who wants to be the center of attention. She will be worse than Fergie.
Meghan Markle is not in the least like Fergie. Fergie came from the British middle classes. Not much money but related to the peerage. On paper, as I wrote in a previous post, she would have been considered quite suitable but she turned out to be an unmitigated disaster. She was well connected on both her maternal and paternal sides of the family.
Andrew was well known and disliked among the BRF staff at BP, Windsor etc for being rude and arrogant, buffoon-like with a liking for crude practical jokes and for throwing his weight around. No-one in staff circles has ever accused Harry of being arrogant, bullying or rude. It was known that Diana insisted that her son's treat others politely.
Sarah was very 'county, country gentry' in a 'jolly hockey sticks' very British way, got on well with the Royal family, loved all their pursuits, fishing, deer stalking, horse riding etc. The BRF had no doubt she would settle in fine once her over-breezy manner was refined, as her father knew Charles and she knew other members of the BRF peripherally. Fergie would sit laughing with the Queen and tell her dirty jokes. She was quite at ease in the county circles that operate around the BRF.
Fergie was a disaster because of separations from Andrew due to his naval career, she was lonely at BP, and she was a restless woman who found the US celebrity scene new and exciting and succumbed to it.
She wasn't at ease with Royal engagements, being always a bit too breezy and sometimes vulgar, and she was criticised in the Press for being overweight, ungainly and a fashion disaster. Because she adored the US lifestyle she fell in lust with two separate Americans and was unfaithful to Andrew.
How that all equates to MM I don't know. If she and Harry do marry (and we don't know whether they will) and Meghan becomes successful working member of the BRF against all the odds there will be a great deal of humble pie to be eaten by people across some Internet sites, IMHO.
By the way, I have never demanded in my posts that people kiss Meghan's feet, nor did I use the word 'attack' in my post. I try to see the best in situations and people and don't like the pack mentality that exists on the internet where people can say whatever they want about someone they don't know yet (and we've never heard MM speak, never seen Harry and Meghan together, don't know how they interact) and yet constant niggling is considered quite OK, that's all.
In Australia we have an expression 'Give someone a go' (a chance) before going for them, and I think that's good.
I guess This will explain what that nosy wintness at the restaurant hear when Meg told her friends.
This will explain the private party harry and meg are having with their families and friends tonight at KP. Congrats to all. People need to give it a rest and let them be happy! Have Prince Harry and Meghan Markle got engaged secretly? | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4031414/Have-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-got-engaged-secretly.html)
You are taking my reference literally. I could have easily used Diana, the situations are not the same, but they share one common theme. None of these women knew what they were getting themselves into. Diana was innocent, Fergie was thought to be a breath of fresh air, but when the reality settled, we both know how it ended.
The similarities are: all three women are from broken homes. Meghan having her own failed marriage and studies show second marriages are even more likely to fail. How do you anticipate she will cope once she is made to understand her place? How is ms feminist, I'll shout my opinion to whomever will listen, going to survive the life of restrictions within the family? Oh yeah, the fairytale of luv conquers all, right.
Marrying in is sexy, for now, but once the dust is settled, the real fun begins. She's "a brash American", falling in line is not part of her DNA.
I'm not giving her a chance because she failed to make a good first impression. She can always prove me wrong, but I very much doubt that.
Letizia was a divorcee, and as a news reader was used to speaking her mind, presumably. Yet she is doing very well. Prince Joachim of Denmark is very happy with Princess Marie after he and his first wife divorced. Princess Margaret's children came from a miserable marriage that broke up and yet their marriages have endured. The Phillips's, Anne son and daughter in law have been married for years. Zara is happy with Mike Tindall in spite of her parents' divorce. William has been married for years. He was a child of divorce. Tom Parker-Bowles survived a very public divorce as did his sister. They are both happily wed. There are thousands of couples who have married for a second time and made a success of it.
So an individual is forever condemned because another person they don't know wouldn't ever change their mind about them. I see.
I need to go to bed so I'm going to concede. But I maintain my view that Meghan will be trouble for the monarchy. It's not consequential to me since I don't pay for them. This is just entertainment - the new brangelina, if you will - but that went up in smoke too. That usually happens with narcissist who believe in their own hype. :shrug:
I find it funny that people who are singing high praises of Meghan don't know her personally either. (Unless it's you Meghan who is here on the board promoting yourself :teehee: :P) Everything here is based on assumptions and rumors. Party, what party? Based on rumors? Remember that rumor on the first week of how she met Will & Kate and have their approval? Yea, all rumors, not true. Yes, some can like her from her social media posts and want to give her a chance.
Some like me can also conclude that she is desperate to seek attention and is taking advantage of the situation to promote herself. It's not hard to come to that conclusion if you've been observing over the years how the BRF normally handles situations like these compared to how this was handled and how Meghan has been timing her Social Media posts. Plus, isn't it a sign of doom when her lawyers are already involved when they've barely dated, much less lived in the same city for a period of time. Unless, again, you think this is a Disney-Hallmark movie and they'll get engaged and live happily ever after.
Personally, I don't think this is a good relationship nor a good addition to the BRF based on the BRF's history and Meghan's actions. Take note, IT hasn't even been HALF A YEAR and Harry has been depicted as a spoiled, rash, rich kid. (that letter could've been worded better w/o sounding like a whining teen.) His flying back & forth doesn't help either. Based on the public's reaction, it isn't favorable either. We here on the board who aren't Brits or subjects of the commonwealth, I think our opinions weigh less than those who's taxes are supporting the BRF. We are just here to freely discuss what we think.
Does it mean they might not go on w/ this relationship or take it further? Of course not. I'm not an insider of the BRF. But I don't see this in a favorable light and it won't help the image of the BRF either. Plus, I believe in Karma. When a relationship doesn't start well, the house of cards will eventually fall. Look at Brangelina, it took 10 years, but cheating is never a good start to a relationship. JMO. :notamused:
Also, I don't think Meghan is like Fergie. Meghan will be more like Wallis Simpson. She wants the chic lifestyle and to be adored. If she does marry Harry in the future, she will be adored by the American fashion elite who wants to get close to BRF and hated by the Brits. American magazines will have endless material to print of her. I can actually picture her and Harry living in NYC or Paris. Enjoy the party and lifestyle, have a little charity on the side to appear nice but she won't be representing the BRF on official functions.
Happy Harry got what he wants. ❤️
A huge shocker to his fan base. Critisim in my view should be pointed to him, his choice of woman, whatever unfavorable view one may have of her, that is who she is and what he likes, loves and caught his eye, heart.
Edit to add, reading different forums, the shock is translated to fans expected Harry to have a superior choice in a woman in every and all senses vs his brother. In their view, Meghan comes out inferior. Years of Kate taking forum hits, and then came Meghan.
Quote from: wannable on December 14, 2016, 11:05:29 AM
Happy Harry got what he wants. ❤️
A huge shocker to his fan base.
Edit to add, reading different forums, the shock is translated to fans expected Harry to have a superior choice in a woman in every and all senses vs his brother. In their view, Meghan comes out inferior. Years of Kate taking forum hits, and then came Meghan.
Chelsy - model when they dated (then went to law school and later they parted ways)
Cressida- model/actress
Meghan- actress/model
I've always said Harry will not end up with anyone like his fanbase wanted him to be with, his taste is different to what they think it is. And that's not inferior but just different. I frankly don't care too much for Harry, haven't for a while now (since vegas i think) and so while wishing him the best this choice doesn't surprise me in the least.
I think the media and fandom are jumping the gun here ... he is STILL to act like a proud boyfriend and be photographed with her ... this is Harry we are talking about here ... he will get tired of her in a few Months especially since he will be out of her sight and free to play in his favorite playground which is London's clubs where he will have plenty of 20 something blondes to play with :wink: ...
It's all a matter of perspective, which never ceases to amaze me. I don't tend to think in absolutes unless the topic truly does require it, and I can see common sense in both extreme opinions of MM, as well as exaggeration. In the end though, Harry will do whatever he likes as he tends to do.
The outcome for him personally, I must admit, does not particularly interest me. However, the outcome for the monarchy does. I don't know if their marriage will harm or help the BRF; probably a bit of both in different ways. Regardless, it will no doubt change the monarchy, and I can't wait to be front row for that.
I'm an Aussie, born and brought up in Britain and maintaining a home there for many years, and I have followed the BRF all my teen years and adult life. As a citizen of the Commonwealth I believe I do have some knowledge.
Harry IMO be living in London, at least until George is probably in his late twenties, early thirties and starting full time Royal duties. Harry is one of the only two offspring of a future king.
In Charles's slimmed down monarchy he will be needed for Royal duties. So will his wife. Charles will be an elderly monarch and Camilla will be an elderly consort. As William's only sibling Harry and his wife will be needed for Royal duties when William becomes King as well. William and Kate certainly aren't going to be able to do all that will be needed to be done, even if George commits to full time Royal duties in his twenties.
King Edward VIII was a monarch who abdicated and was not welcomed at home in Britain. The lifestyle followed by he and Wallis in the 1940's and 50s and even in the 1960s would be impossible today or in the future. Neither Harry or Meghan will have the income to maintain a life and homes in Paris and NY, for a start off.
Harry can't speak French and has never expressed any interest in living on the European continent. On the contrary, Britain and Commonwealth countries (mainly Africa) have been his main homes and sources of interests both in his charity work and private life.
I am still to see a picture of our Romeo with his flavor of the Month ... so much talk ... NO pictures ... if there is none until the weekend it will officially be weird ...
Funny, some people speak badly about Harry, but spend all the time in Forums discussing his life :D :D :D
Harry would never be desperate, any woman in the world wanted to marry him, even those who speak ill of him in forums I'm sure :hehe: :hehe:
I think Harry and Meghan can stay engaged in a secret yes. He is acting with her, very different from the way he acted with his ex-girlfriends. He wants to protect her, keep her away from the photographers, take care of her! :hug:
^ You are assuming stuff about the female population of the World LOL ... incorrectly I must add since this man child stayed single two Years after Chelsy and three after Cressida ... you are stretching ...
This is an opinion forum, yes but what is criticising her constantly going to accomplish though? Harry pretty much was saying to the British public that he doesn't care what anyone thinks about this relationship with Meghan when he had that statement released from KP in addition to defending and protecting her.
In spite of all the criticism here and elsewhere these two are still together.
I guess it's evident that those who've been observing and discussing the Royal Families for a long time know what they are really about. Most aren't surprised by Harry's choice given his past, Maybe he and Meghan do deserve each other. They may really be the Duke & duchess of Windsor of our time. Yes, a bit scaled down because of news & social media, they won't get away w/ a big allowance.
"Harry would never be desperate, any woman in the world wanted to marry him, even those who speak ill of him in forums I'm sure :hehe: :hehe:"
--- umm... I beg to differ. Different accounts have stated that Emma Watson wouldn't give him the time of day. Rumors, yes I know, just like most of what we're discussing here anyways. But you see, fact is Emma Watson is an accomplished actress, is a legit UN rep/ambassador, has a bright future in her career and has her own money. :nod: :nod:
Contrary to most, NOT all women of substance starve to be married and put in the limelight of a Royal family. Especially ones who ALREADY HAVE status & title PLUS know the obligation and duty it comes w/. Take the beautiful Isabella Calthrope, William dumped Kate for her (or so rumor says) . True or not, she married Sam Branson. Who's rich AND comes from a close-knit family w/o the public's scrutinizing eye nor duty to country strung into your monthly allowance. (Maybe Cressida took her advice)
YES, Harry can't speak French, but he does speak the language of showbiz and charm. So not surprisingly, Hollywood or the party life of NYC wouldn't be a surprise. Meghan, having a penchant for that "chic upscale lifestyle" isn't far off from Wallis Simpson, actually. Her love of Soho house, spas and peonies says it all . You wanna talk about activism, charity and simple life, look at Shailene Woodley. ( And no I'm not despising Meghan for her "lifestyle" if she earns her own money --- minus her ex's connection to get in Soho of course :censored2: ) but pretending to be a champion for poverty while at the same time juxtaposing her high end brand/ life sounds like image rebranding to me. At least celebrities like Taylor Swift (regardless of what you think of her) gives money to charities in her own country, a lot even anonymously, w/o the need to use the background of third world countries or African children to rebrand her image. Let's face it, charity begins at home.
And yes... Harry doesn't care, Meghan doesn't care... but this is a forum to discuss opinions of what ifs that is open to all... if we're just here to praise Meghan when the sun rises till it sets... then there's no point . This won't be a discussion of Royals but of showbiz and celebrities. And Take note that Meghan is a celebrity, but not a Royal.
Quote from: Vesper on December 14, 2016, 04:14:47 AM
You are taking my reference literally. I could have easily used Diana, the situations are not the same, but they share one common theme. None of these women knew what they were getting themselves into. Diana was innocent, Fergie was thought to be a breath of fresh air, but when the reality settled, we both know how it ended.
The similarities are: all three women are from broken homes. Meghan having her own failed marriage and studies show second marriages are even more likely to fail. How do you anticipate she will cope once she is made to understand her place? How is ms feminist, I'll shout my opinion to whomever will listen, going to survive the life of restrictions within the family? Oh yeah, the fairytale of luv conquers all, right.
Marrying in is sexy, for now, but once the dust is settled, the real fun begins. She's "a brash American", falling in line is not part of her DNA.
I'm not giving her a chance because she failed to make a good first impression. She can always prove me wrong, but I very much doubt that.
I don't go along with second marriages likely to fail. An example of this is Kirk Douglas whose first marriage failed and he is still married to his second wife for about 67 years now!
Camilla did not know her place and fall in line for obvious reasons and she got rewarded with an HRH. Go figure.
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Quote from: Vesper on December 14, 2016, 04:41:03 AM
I need to go to bed so I'm going to concede. But I maintain my view that Meghan will be trouble for the monarchy. It's not consequential to me since I don't pay for them. This is just entertainment - the new brangelina, if you will - but that went up in smoke too. That usually happens with narcissist who believe in their own hype. :shrug:
Camilla was and is trouble but the royals let her in. They barred Peter Townsend who was not at fault in his divorce (his wife cheated) but Margaret could not marry him and keep her title.
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Quote from: Vesper on December 14, 2016, 03:01:37 AM
No, he's not, but you're missing my point. Harry is following up on his uncle's footsteps by dealing with a "brash American" - that's her quote - divorce woman. A person who wants to be the center of attention. She will be worse than Fergie.
Camilla was a divorced woman when she married the heir to the throne who is a divorced man. So if they bar Meghan and consider her "trouble" that's rampant hypocrisy. I would not call Camilla a shrinking violet exactly.
Prince Harry took girlfriend Meghan Markle on secret date to watch West End show The Lion King – The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2398118/prince-harry-took-girlfriend-meghan-markle-on-secret-date-to-watch-west-end-show-the-lion-king/)
Harry wrote a statement telling the whole world that he is dating Meghan, don't need at photos to prove anything :hi: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
Quote from: Yale on December 14, 2016, 04:42:34 PM
Prince Harry took girlfriend Meghan Markle on secret date to watch West End show The Lion King – The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2398118/prince-harry-took-girlfriend-meghan-markle-on-secret-date-to-watch-west-end-show-the-lion-king/)
Still to see a single picture of these two individuals together ... this is weird ... are paps in London sleeping through this? Isn't Megan supposed to be some super duper celeb paps stalk 24/7? LOL ...
The statement from KP by Harry was more than enough. I don't need any pictures or proof. He and Meghan are entitled to their privacy and that have a right to be happy and together!!!
^ I agree, but not at the expense of the taxpayer. You, no doubt would argue that he is protected 24/7 - but I would argue that he should not. Private jaunts should be paid for by private funds.
Quote from: SophieChloe on December 14, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
^ I agree, but not at the expense of the taxpayer. You, no doubt would argue that he is protected 24/7 - but I would argue that he should not. Private jaunts should be paid for by private funds.
Maybe Harry should not be protected 24/7, I don't know. But he is whether you think he should be or not. It's being done. However, how is Harry being happy or his right to happiness at the expense of the taxpayer?
And from what I just read most British have absolutely no problem with Meghan or Harry or them as a couple. It's social media sites and rags causing trouble.
First photos of Harry and Meghan together. I think someone got lucky with their cell phone and then offered the results to the Sun. They look happy, but gosh the cold weather...Brrrr!
First pictures of Prince Harry and girlfriend Meghan Markle together as they enjoy romantic date in London (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2401773/first-pictures-prince-harry-meghan-markle-date-london/)
:lol: And somehow I think that
@Duch_Luver_4ever would look at that photo and declare that a t-shirt, shorts and sandals are perfectly fine for those temps.
Glad that they're having some private time together.
Finally ... I can't see this end well though ... she will run the first time some sacrifices are required of her ...
I don't get why people have issues with this photos, at first they want photo now they got it and prove it, they are back again with another cruel joke!
They (Harry & Megan) look relax and for them to walk alone without bodyguard on a busy streets, trust me it is a busy crowded street it prove how real and comfortable they are not afraid to show it and prove the nay say wrong! Goodluck you two:)
I saw this on twitter earlier today
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/suttonnick/status/809158748979789824/photo/1)
Quote from: Yale on December 14, 2016, 11:21:12 PM
Quote from: SophieChloe on December 14, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
^ I agree, but not at the expense of the taxpayer. You, no doubt would argue that he is protected 24/7 - but I would argue that he should not. Private jaunts should be paid for by private funds.
Maybe Harry should not be protected 24/7, I don't know. But he is whether you think he should be or not. It's being done. However, how is Harry being happy or his right to happiness at the expense of the taxpayer?
And from what I just read most British have absolutely no problem with Meghan or Harry or them as a couple. It's social media sites and rags causing trouble.
It's unfortunate that Harry or any other royal requires 24/7 protection but it is a reality that isn't going away anytime soon.
Quote from: Eri on December 15, 2016, 01:04:23 AM
Finally ... I can't see this end well though ... she will run the first time some sacrifices are required of her ...
Why wish bad on this couple? Sacrifices should be required of him as well.
You wanted a photo of them together and now you got it and you're still not satisfied!!
Well, I am satisfied and thrilled for them both!! It's official!! Harry is off the market!! He and Meghan and a couple and it's very serious!!!
^ I really don't understand why anyone has to be "satisfied". What does satisfaction have to do w/ anything?
People are just expressing what they think of Harry & Meghan individually or together? Isn't that what this forum is about? Or is this forum a fangurling site for Meghan? It was already official when KP issued the badly worded (IMO) statement. But I didn't think that everybody is required to only praise Meghan or Harry else shut up?
Well, I really wish them luck and wiser decision making skills. They will need it. You only have to look at comments on British papers to know people don't like it nor are they happy w/ the BRF in general. (Unless you close your eyes & ignore those comments)
As for Meghan, I think she'll hang on until till the end. Her bringing lawyers and PR's early into this shows how seriously she wants this. If they're both smart, they'll live together for a while so that real life can sink in. She'll have a better grasp on the duty and responsibility and discretion needed from her. Else it probably won't end well and tabloids will have so much more materials in a couple of years time.
When people who live outside the UK talk about public reactions in Britain to Royal events in general they are usually talking about that Pit of Bile, Envy and Venting that is the Daily Fail comments section. Even decades ago the Daily Fail was known to cater for the lowest common denominator, and you can see that now in the clickbait area, otherwise known as the Comments section.
At least half of the DM commenters live overseas, a good portion of them in the US and in other non-Commonwealth countries, many are semi-illiterate, some are plainly just trolls. I also don't know anyone who takes news seriously who pores over articles in the DM (though their photographs are first class.)
Nor do I know any commentators on the British public's attitudes to any issues who takes the ranters of the DM into account. Print media is dying anyway and every British newspaper has been losing circulation for years. Many are hanging on the edge of extinction. I feel sorry for the broadsheets not the tabloids.
There are over 63 million people in the UK. If we are being very generous and say that 40,000 or so regulars comment in British tabloids every week on matters to do with a member of the BRF like Harry (most of them in the Daily Fail) that still leaves 62 million nine hundred thousand or so who are getting on with their lives, not commenting on tabs and many who have a favourable to neutral attitude to members of the BRF and that includes Harry.
If there were millions of British people who loathe and despise the BRF they would be filling republican clubs (Republic, the largest anti monarchy organisation in Britain has a membership of below 40,000 and many of them are inactive) manning the barricades ready to storm BP and Windsor, and demanding Parliament does something. None of that is happening.
I know there is a Royal forum, and I post on the four main ones, whose members (mostly Americans) perpetually get themselves into a later and say Harry is bringing down the monarchy and the BRF is about to topple, but he isn't and the monarchy isn't either. Both he and it will be around for many moons to come IMO.
Quote from: Yale on December 15, 2016, 02:22:16 AM
You wanted a photo of them together and now you got it and you're still not satisfied!!
Well, I am satisfied and thrilled for them both!! It's official!! Harry is off the market!! He and Meghan and a couple and it's very serious!!!
LOL ... he was photographed with Flee ...this not only will end soon but will make his break up with Cressida look like a child's play ... this one won't go out without a fight ... and trust me Harry will want out ... no way this man child wants to settle down right now ...
^ Yes, there was one grainy photo of them taken at a party. I have a feeling there will be more soon with Meghan. The relationship with Flee lasted for a couple of weeks, three at the most. There was no statement from KP regarding Flee, nor was there with Cressida B.
Cute couple! Look at Harry's big smile! Quite different from the boring face he appeared alongside other :hehe: :hehe: :hug:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/nintchdbpict000289016587-e1481755430699.jpg?w=813&strip=all
^ It seems he is communicating with someone else while she seems awkward ... I challenge anyone to say those are better than this :
https://jackieohohoh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/117782.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540240-1AB251BC00000578-846_636x382.jpg
for people who complained about his "chemistry" with Cressida ... it seems to be the same with this one ... at least he is talking TO Cressida ... some are being hilarious ...it is rumored the men in grey didn't like Cressida's "performance" at WE Day and how she was dressed and let it be known and she was hurt and that was the beginning of the end ... hell will freeze over before they allow him to marry this one ...
He looks at Cressida with pity and seems bored lol lol, who can see chemistry there? In just one photo with Meghan he looks happy as he never was, we'll see next photos, will catch fire :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
And Cressida does not matter, she's PAST, now he's with Meghan :P :P
I saw a photo of Cressida sitting on Harry's lap and they were making out. Like seriously making out, IT was at some ski resort in Switzerland. His cousin Eugenie or Beatrice was there and so was Sarah Ferguson. It was so long ago I forgot the details.
Anyway, let's see how this goes. Must be entertaining for all of us how this unfolds. And the breakdown will not be nice compared to his previous gf's...
Quote from: Vesper on December 14, 2016, 03:01:37 AM
No, he's not, but you're missing my point. Harry is following up on his uncle's footsteps by dealing with a "brash American" - that's her quote - divorce woman. A person who wants to be the center of attention. She will be worse than Fergie.
Although I agree with Sandy for most part, I have to say that I also see Meghan wanting the full publicity that she is receiving. The publicity she is receiving is worth a million in $$ , so if the situation is resolved and she does not become part of the Royal Family , most of the world will know who she is..including Hollywood agents... IMO, of course!
Quote from: Eri on December 15, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
^ It seems he is communicating with someone else while she seems awkward ... I challenge anyone to say those are better than this :
https://jackieohohoh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/117782.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540240-1AB251BC00000578-846_636x382.jpg
for people who complained about his "chemistry" with Cressida ... it seems to be the same with this one ... at least he is talking TO Cressida ... some are being hilarious ...it is rumored the men in grey didn't like Cressida's "performance" at WE Day and how she was dressed and let it be known and she was hurt and that was the beginning of the end ... hell will freeze over before they allow him to marry this one ...
"they" allowed Charles to marry Camilla. They would look like raging hypocrites if they don't allow Harry to marry Meghan.
Laughing a lot of crazed fans of Cressida :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: There was only one picture of Harry and Meghan and he looks relaxed and happy beside her, I've never seen him like this before, Maybe just with Chelsy at the beginning of the dating, but he was just a boy at the time, But no matter how he stood next to the ex- , what matters is that he is now with Meghan the rest is past, why dig up the dead? :teehee: :teehee: :hehe:i
The difference in the picture is that Harry and Meghan are holding hands in front of THOUSANDS of people and Harry was showing her off...Him explaining something to Cressida in a photo isn't romantic to me but hey.....
I'm starting to get really excited about this relationship! I want Harry to settle down. I think Meghan would be perfect to dish about, she is so pretty and seems like fun. The media would have a field day with these two, if they get married.
I'm getting excited about this couple. It's been a long while since I've been this giddy about a royal relationship. The last time I felt like this was when Felipe was engaged to Letizia out of the blue. I was just a kid back then and I had the idea of those marrying into any royal families to be really rich, connected and had glamorous jobs. And then here was Letizia, a visible working woman and a divorcee to boot! But she captured Felipe's heart! So, if a divorced woman can marry a Spanish crown prince, I see no reasons why BP would stop Harry, 2nd son of an heir and far from the succession line (5th in line now), if he so wishes to marry Meghan.
It's still early days and those days are the best times for any new relationship. But I do hope things will work out really well for them! Harry does seem genuinely happy and at peace lately. Even before this news broke out, I thought he just looks so relaxed!
But as I said before, it's still early days. Give it a few months, the press will shred this poor lass to bits and let's see what happens then. Kate had a strong family unit who supported her and I do hope Meghan has the same support too.
Finally, I would hate to be in a position to be dating someone from a royal family!!The amount abuse a girl can get is heart breaking! Not only is the girl attacked but her friends and family too! 9 out of 10 times, the abuse usually comes from another female...out of pure spite, jealousy...I'm not sure what else? And, I don't see the same level of abuse for their male counterparts who are romantically involved with female members of a royal family. This was one of the reasons why I've stayed away from a no. of forums in the past year as I was just disgusted at how we were treating one another.
Anyway, all the best to this couple and merry Christmas, fellow royal watchers!!!!
:xmas21: :xmas21: :xmas21: :xmas21: :xmas9: :xmas9:
Quote from: Kinkade on December 15, 2016, 02:25:01 PM
I saw a photo of Cressida sitting on Harry's lap and they were making out. Like seriously making out, IT was at some ski resort in Switzerland. His cousin Eugenie or Beatrice was there and so was Sarah Ferguson. It was so long ago I forgot the details.
Anyway, let's see how this goes. Must be entertaining for all of us how this unfolds. And the breakdown will not be nice compared to his previous gf's...
What you are referring to was the time that the first photos of Harry and Cressida came out. The occasion was Prince Andrew's birthday and as usual he and his family were skiing in Switzerland to celebrate it. Cressida came along too and Harry joined them. For some reason Harry spontaneously grabbed hold of Cressida while they were skiing and began to hug her. A photographer was nearby and those photos went around the world. I think it was the Sunday Express who bought them. There were other photos taken of Cress, Eugenie and a very cute local St Bernard dog as well, and Harry was nearby with a camera.
However, there weren't any photos of Harry with Cress on his knee that appeared. There was a report at the time that the Yorks, Cress and Harry were in a restaurant in the ski resort (can't remember the name of it offhand) and Harry was bouncing Cressida on his knee and they were kissing and making out. No photos though and apparently some fellow diners thought they were being embarrassing and ought to 'get a room' as it was putting them off their food! The Yorks apparently weren't taking any notice though!
That was in the February of 2013 I believe, as Harry had just come back from his tour of Afghanistan the previous year. As he and Cressida are believed to have met at a music festival in May of the previous year it was almost a year since they had first dated. Vegas had happened that summer and there were rumours in the press all the time he was away that he and Cressida were communicating but he was worried about Harry Wentworth Stanley, Cressida's ex, that she apparently still had lingering feelings for. (Cressida is in fact dating Harry WS right now.)
The ski field photos were the first clear photos of them together, though Cressida had been photographed sitting in a car the previous June after a date when she, Harry, the Yorkie princesses and other friends of Harry's including Tom Inskip went to a film premiere of Batman at a suburban cinema.
There was a cell phone photo taken of the whole row of them at the time sitting in the cinema from the back, but it was extremely grainy and unclear. I remember a huge controversy going on within the fandom for months at this time as to whether he really was dating Cressida. That wasn't confirmed for some, in spite of a few sightings of them together by Twittet people, until the snowfield photos.
I seem to have run on a bit here! Sorry about the length of the post! Just thought I'd post what I remember. The main point is, that Harry has been very successful always in covering his tracks with girlfriends. Even with Chelsy Davy it was months before anyone found out who she was.
It'll be lonely this Christmas for Prince Harry as Meghan, William and Kate all celebrate elsewhere (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/15/itll-lonely-christmas-prince-harry-meghan-william-kate-celebrate/)
Why doesn't Harry just fly to California with Meghan for Christmas this year? Wills and his family will be with the Middletons this year.
^ Probably because his grandparents are very old and nobody knows how many more Christmas get-togethers with their whole family around them they will enjoy. Harry seems to be close to his relatives and enjoys the Sandringham extended family gathering and accompanying ritual (Church walk, football match etc.)
It's only for a couple of days and it will give the Queen and Prince Philip pleasure. The fact that others don't feel the same way about Christmas at Sandringham is neither here nor there. Harry enjoys it and the house will be packed. He won't be lonely at all. Then, after Christmas he and Meghan (who will have been with her mum for Xmas) can have a New Year's break somewhere, probably somewhere warm!
I'm sure they got together again after Christmas. :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
I doubt this report is true ... like no way Willy would be allowed to skip Christmas with the Queen ... this family has become a mess if it is true and if Liz can't handle it anymore she needs to let Chuck take the lead ... the Midds will likely tag along as usual as Carole has no life and lives through Kate ... she didn't pull all that work that required 10 Years for nothing ...
Quote from: Curryong on December 15, 2016, 11:27:07 PM
^ Probably because his grandparents are very old and nobody knows how many more Christmas get-togethers with their whole family around them they will enjoy. Harry seems to be close to his relatives and enjoys the Sandringham extended family gathering and accompanying ritual (Church walk, football match etc.)
It's only for a couple of days and it will give the Queen and Prince Philip pleasure. The fact that others don't feel the same way about Christmas at Sandringham is neither here nor there. Harry enjoys it and the house will be packed. He won't be lonely at all. Then, after Christmas he and Meghan (who will have been with her mum for Xmas) can have a New Year's break somewhere, probably somewhere warm!
I hadn't thought about that.... Harry and Meghan will see each other New Years for sure. Also, they are supposed to goon vacation for a week too.
I doubt they'll be allowed to miss Sandringham. Don't they always go w/ the Queen's family and then on Christmas Day, William & family go over to the Middleton's. Well, who knows, all rumors until it happens.
Actually, I did see a photo of Cressida sitting on Harry's lap while making out. It was blurry but can't miss the ginger. I have to comb through gossip sites to find it, if I have the time. haha. I remember also the article was saying how Fergie doesn't have the same status as others in the Family coz Harry wouldn't behave like that w/ if it had been his Father or the Queen sitting on that table.
So she is already gone? How is this gonna work out? It can't ... this is shaping into being Chelsy part 2 ... those two will break up the minute they spend more than 10 Days together ...
I can already imagine after Christmas, they traveling to a paradise beach :hug:
Quote from: Eri on December 16, 2016, 11:46:41 AM
So she is already gone? How is this gonna work out? It can't ... this is shaping into being Chelsy part 2 ... those two will break up the minute they spend more than 10 Days together ...
They have been together for more than 10 days now. No sign of breaking up.
^^That will go down well with the British public after it is published how much Harry has "worked' this Year ... that would be the point of no return ... he should start WORKING for his tax payer's founded lifestyle than we can talk about him having a vacation from his busy schedule of being unemployed ...
It's been ages since I was on but I was curious as to what everyone thought of this one.
Personally, I am not that impressed at all. Firstly, she seems self-righteous, always talking about her charity work and her self on her blog. Lots of actresses do charity work and should. She seems intent on self-promotion, which is part of her job, but makes her bad princess material.
She seems like a silly girl. Walking around Toronto in the snow with thin 4 inches. Really? I live in Toronto, no one is stupid enough to do that, especially with cameras following her around. But she has to look good for the camera's right? :lol:
Also, she is already lamenting being home sick all the time. That sounds awfully familiar.
This is already beginning to look like the same Chelsy situation. Who I miss now because she was interesting.
Quote from: Eri on December 16, 2016, 03:41:46 PM
^^That will go down well with the British public after it is published how much Harry has "worked' this Year ... that would be the point of no return ... he should start WORKING for his tax payer's founded lifestyle than we can talk about him having a vacation from his busy schedule of being unemployed ...
Well yes, the two Princes and Kate should be working more. I very much agree. I don't know why they are not. They all should start working. The Queen should see to it. But this is for another thread....
^^
I think foolish Meghan has nothing. She is intelligent, articulate, writes great articles, in the interview with Larry king she was great. So now no actress can help anyone else and comment is self promotion? The people who criticize, I bet would not waste their precious time helping others. And what's the problem in Toronto? Why should she stay indoors and stop her life?
I appreciate Meghan bringing awareness to causes people don't know about or realize deeper issues than their own...If that's "promoting" herself I hope she keeps it up....Its already sounding like she will start off the new year with more "royal" duties than Kate and that's already good enough for me!
^ I work for a charity for a living.
And there a lot of smart girls out there that can write articles.
Some of them can write about more than clothes, and promoting their friend's businesses and products and themselves too! :teehee:
There was only one or two articles in her blog on her charity work. :hehe:
Harry will find better I am sure.
I wager that when they return from their vacation, that Harry and Meghan will be engaged!
Now the question will they keep it a secret for a while?
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All of her articles are intelligent and well written, regardless of whether they are about fashion, health, food, philanthropy ... and who are you to think Harry will find someone better? If he liked her, it will not be his opinion that will change what he feels.Get over yourself! :thumbsdown:
QuotePrince Harry and girlfriend Meghan Markle pictured together for the first time
Love was in the air in London on Wednesday night as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle made their public debut as a couple. The pair were pictured together for the very first time while enjoying an evening out at a play in the West End. Harry and Meghan, who have been dating for around five months, stayed close as they took a stroll along Piccadilly and Shaftesbury Avenue, both bundled up in beanies and winter coats as they walked inconspicuously amongst late night shoppers. The couple, who were pictured in the Sun, went to see a performance of The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time at the Gielgud Theatre.
Toronto-based Meghan flew into London on Sunday to spend some time with her royal boyfriend before he heads to the Queen's Sandringham estate for Christmas with his family. The following day, Harry, 32, and Meghan, 35, went shopping for a Christmas tree together at Pines and Needles in London's Battersea Park, where they selected a modest six-foot Nordmann's fir.
Read more:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markel pictured together for first time (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016121535228/prince-harry-meghan-markle-pictured-together-first-time/)
The first photos appeared, in London, not in Toronto. I thought they would happen on vacation, but then I thought we would not get the first pics in Toronto, so good to be right :)
I've already stated all my reservations. I think she is enjoying this too much and playing the media. It may be her second nature, having been in entertainment industry for over a decade.
I do not see the big deal on photos. We've had so many intimate photos of Harry with Chelsy and his first photo with Cressida was much more intimate and loved-up than this.
Like I've said before, Harry has done at least as much when he spoke about Chelsy during his birthday interview, so the letter is not that unprecedented. Also with Meghan, there were racist attacks and a lot of sexism. She is on a p0rn site? Come on, that was crossing many lines. She is an actress and for a working actress the fact that she's never shown her boobs is a rarity.
However because of their ages, this may be the real deal. Though I hope they don't rush. It is a big decision for her, one she may regret. She will need to muzzle herself and rein in some of her interests, especially when they are political. They are in the in-lust stage. All the time they are spending together is vacation. They haven't really spent that much time together.
There is so much to like about this relationship and I do want to. She is American, living in Toronto Canada. She is biracial. She went to Northwestern, one of the top universities! She has made a name for herself and worked her way to success, okay she is not Jennifer Lawrence, but she is making much more money than most of us I'd guess. She does charity (trying not to remember the African children video). She is gorgeous. I've always found Kate to be very very beautiful and photogenic but I am not sure who is prettier.
And she has a killer style, wonderful hair and perfect makeup.
Fashionable and Fierce from Meghan Markle's Best Looks | E! News (http://www.eonline.com/photos/19729/meghan-markle-s-best-looks/727594)
So let's be positive. It is the season :)
Funny, there is only one photo between Meghan and Harry and people don't stop judging. No one knows what happens to them in intimacy. I repeat, I have never seen a picture of him with Cressida where he looked happy, he always seemed bored next to her. With Chelsy he even seemed happy, but they were very young, almost teenagers, at that age everything is fun and funny.
And what does it matter what he felt before? Now he's with MEGHAN, she's his girlfriend, "they're out of the picture"
:P
The Harry and Cressida B thing puzzles me still. We know so little about their romance and it was ages before any photos came out. They were together for two years and so Harry obviously had feelings for her. According to some sources it was a disappointment to him when it broke up. I'm not so sure about that. He always looked tense and rather worried when they were out together, with the exception of the huggy photos on the ski slopes.
Harry may have recognised that she was a bit shy, a bit retiring (as some actors are) and that might not be a good fit for Royal life. There was also the issue of Cress's possibly unresolved feelings for Harry WS hanging over the whole relationship.
I don't go with the theory of the fandom at the time that this was a fake relationship, because I don't think Harry does those. I thought Cress would have been an interesting choice as a Royal bride, but I do believe the relationship was fraying at the edges by the end and probably ended in a big bust up just before the Pelly wedding. He's cordial with her still on IG so they must have got over it, lol.
Again we have an interesting choice with Meghan. It may not end in marriage but it will definitely bring a new dynamic to the BRF if it does work out. I'm awaiting developments in the new year!
I Just read an article and Harry states that he has a special love for Africa that will never disappear and he hopes to pass that onto his children. It was the Sun, The Sun thinks he and Meghan are planning to have kids and have talked about it recently.
Quote from: Eri on December 16, 2016, 11:46:41 AM
So she is already gone? How is this gonna work out? It can't ... this is shaping into being Chelsy part 2 ... those two will break up the minute they spend more than 10 Days together ...
Apparently she has some experience with long distance relationships but I can see her clinging to him whenever she can get a chance to. I doubt they've spent 10 consequtive days together. Good luck to her trying to turn it into something serious. No matter how the media wants it. It is like the same long distance relationship with Chelsy but worst. He prefers sa over toronto and his close friends liked chelsy and she didn't wait a century to meet kate, will and charles. Another good luck to her with that. I wonder if she can afford to live in london for a couple months and find work. How can anyone expect this can last few more months.
*looks into a 🔮 * Predict an engagement of these two middle-aged lovebirds in 2017. :hehe:
Quote from: michelle0187 on December 18, 2016, 04:11:01 AM
Quote from: Eri on December 16, 2016, 11:46:41 AM
So she is already gone? How is this gonna work out? It can't ... this is shaping into being Chelsy part 2 ... those two will break up the minute they spend more than 10 Days together ...
Apparently she has some experience with long distance relationships but I can see her clinging to him whenever she can get a chance to. I doubt they've spent 10 consequtive days together. Good luck to her trying to turn it into something serious. No matter how the media wants it. It is like the same long distance relationship with Chelsy but worst. He prefers sa over toronto and his close friends liked chelsy and she didn't wait a century to meet kate, will and charles. Another good luck to her with that. I wonder if she can afford to live in london for a couple months and find work. How can anyone expect this can last few more months.
How do you know how much time these two have actually spent together? These two were dating months before the world discovered it. And you all need to really stop being so judgmental. I am sick of some of you attacking this girl with nothing to base it on. You have no idea what she can afford and what she can't and so on.
Quote from: Izabella on December 18, 2016, 04:22:09 AM
*looks into a 🔮 * Predict an engagement of these two middle-aged lovebirds in 2017. :hehe:
Oy, that is very hurtful to those of us over a certain age! :D Your thirties isn't middle age.
And yes, I do think there's more likely than not to be an engagement followed by a marriage in 2017. Harry wants children so they're not likely to hang around waiting for years on end.
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Actually I can remember a lot of speculation at the time as to when Chelsy met Charles, Will etc. Because of geographical reasons I think it was a matter of months not weeks. Will was at uni at the time Chelsy and Harry met, and wasnt around a lot, so Charles probably met her first. We don't know whether Meghan has now met Charles and Cam at least.
Quote from: Curryong on December 18, 2016, 04:52:18 AM
Quote from: Izabella on December 18, 2016, 04:22:09 AM
*looks into a 🔮 * Predict an engagement of these two middle-aged lovebirds in 2017. :hehe:
Oy, that is very hurtful to those of us over a certain age! :D Your thirties isn't middle age.
And yes, I do think there's more likely than not to be an engagement followed by a marriage in 2017. Harry wants children so they're not likely to hang around waiting for years on end.
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Actually I can remember a lot of speculation at the time as to when Chelsy met Charles, Will etc. Because of geographical reasons I think it was a matter of months not weeks. Will was at uni at the time Chelsy and Harry met, and wasnt around a lot, so Charles probably met her first. We don't know whether Meghan has now met Charles and Cam at least.
I was thinking the same thing about the middle aged comment myself. Being in your 30's is not middle aged. LOL!!
Eye of the beholder, guess. :xmas1: Middle age begins at 35 and ends at 58 - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/7458147/Middle-age-begins-at-35-and-ends-at-58.html)
Quote from: Yale on December 18, 2016, 04:47:52 AM
Quote from: michelle0187 on December 18, 2016, 04:11:01 AM
Quote from: Eri on December 16, 2016, 11:46:41 AM
So she is already gone? How is this gonna work out? It can't ... this is shaping into being Chelsy part 2 ... those two will break up the minute they spend more than 10 Days together ...
Apparently she has some experience with long distance relationships but I can see her clinging to him whenever she can get a chance to. I doubt they've spent 10 consequtive days together. Good luck to her trying to turn it into something serious. No matter how the media wants it. It is like the same long distance relationship with Chelsy but worst. He prefers sa over toronto and his close friends liked chelsy and she didn't wait a century to meet kate, will and charles. Another good luck to her with that. I wonder if she can afford to live in london for a couple months and find work. How can anyone expect this can last few more months.
How do you know how much time these two have actually spent together? These two were dating months before the world discovered it. And you all need to really stop being so judgmental. I am sick of some of you attacking this girl with nothing to base it on. You have no idea what she can afford and what she can't and so on.
Dating for months yet it's still in the early stages?
The article says perceptions about age are very much with the observer and I can believe that. When I was 18 I though everyone over 30 was middle aged and my parents seemed ancient. Everyone over 60 in my eyes would have been ready for an old folks home! As you get older these views change!
Quote from: Cat00 on December 13, 2016, 03:19:46 PM
Meghan is the typical middle-class woman, knows to cook, take care of a house, Set up a Christmas Tree... quite unlike Harry's exes who should not know fry an egg :hehe: :hehe: These little things in life, must be fascinating Harry.
Yes. They were also fascinating to PW provided by K and her family.
I think Harry and Meghan have already gone on their vacation. For the last 2 days or so the new outlets have been making up stories about them, some of false or past or uninteresting pointless articles. They have been no sightings of her or Harry nor of her leaving London.
Harry IS a master at out smarting the press. I think they're on vacation and have been for the last two or three days.
Quote from: Curryong on December 18, 2016, 04:52:18 AM
Quote from: Izabella on December 18, 2016, 04:22:09 AM
*looks into a 🔮 * Predict an engagement of these two middle-aged lovebirds in 2017. :hehe:
Oy, that is very hurtful to those of us over a certain age! :D Your thirties isn't middle age.
And yes, I do think there's more likely than not to be an engagement followed by a marriage in 2017. Harry wants children so they're not likely to hang around waiting for years on end.
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Actually I can remember a lot of speculation at the time as to when Chelsy met Charles, Will etc. Because of geographical reasons I think it was a matter of months not weeks. Will was at uni at the time Chelsy and Harry met, and wasnt around a lot, so Charles probably met her first. We don't know whether Meghan has now met Charles and Cam at least.
If Harry is serious about Meghan then he'll introduce her to his family. However he does have to consider if Meghan is ready to be introduced to them as well. Meeting the parents is always an important step in a relationship, it's easier to meet the siblings IMHO.
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I also think they spent the whole week together somewhere, it's been a week since Meghan has post nothing on instagran
Quote from: Cat00 on December 18, 2016, 04:33:48 PM
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I also think they spent the whole week together somewhere, it's been a week since Meghan has post nothing on instagran
Yep! They are on their vacation!! They gave reporters the slip again!! Go Harry!!
Ya know, I was thinking Harry just use midnight January 1st to propose if not on this romantic vacation? We'll see!
Think about it, Harry pulling out that ring box and proposing just as the clock strikes midnight. SO ROMANTIC!!
If they've been on a break somewhere, and I agree they probably have, it's been since the 12th Dec as the CC had it that Harry received Sir Keith Mills, the Chairman of Invictus Games at KP, and since their theatre outing, of course.
Meghan brings up a lot of red flags, she is going to make Heather Mills look like an amateur. Harry and Chelsy need to put their pride aside, stop playing games and start talking before it's too late.
Harry and Chelsy are never getting back together and if we're being honest he won't get a more better looking girl than Meghan.I'm still confused on how he even got her in the first place...I'm not saying he is ugly but she is out of his league looks wise but it's love and it blinds you! Also come on,35 is not middle aged...Isn't that 42-45? In America it is...I'm only 22 but that really hurt my feelings for some reason :( Oh well,it's all a guess! Wherever Harry and Meghan are they are quiet and happy so,so am I!!!
Prince Harry sneaks in hunting trip to Bavaria while Meghan Markle films in Canada | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4046340/Prince-Harry-sneaks-hunting-trip-Bavaria-Meghan-Markle-films-Canada.html)
Some things never change.
Prince Harry Is ''More Serious'' About Meghan Markle Than Any Other Previous Girlfriend | E! News (http://m.eonline.com/news/816760/prince-harry-is-more-serious-about-meghan-markle-than-any-other-previous-girlfriend)
Which one of you guys wrote that article?
Apparently Meghan's nephew has said they playfully call each other "Husband" and "Wife".
^ so it was you
Quote from: Karen17 on December 18, 2016, 09:46:15 PM
Meghan brings up a lot of red flags, she is going to make Heather Mills look like an amateur.
I think this statement is the mother of all foreshadowings! :nod: :hehe: :nod: :hehe:
Ummm...I don't work for ENews...If you are one of those people in denial when even facts are presented why are you even posting on here accusing people of making things up...Just don't say anything at all especially if you make that type of ridiculous claim that I wrote the article..Click the link and the writer is listed,that simple? This isn't the forum for what you are trying to start...
Quote from: LadyLenox on December 19, 2016, 04:38:40 AM
Ummm...I don't work for ENews...If you are one of those people in denial when even facts are presented why are you even posting on here accusing people of making things up...Just don't say anything at all especially if you make that type of ridiculous claim that I wrote the article..Click the link and the writer is listed,that simple? This isn't the forum for what you are trying to start...
You saved me from having to say it myself. Thank you! I think most are jealous of Meghan. She has got the world most wanted bachelor and not them.
And he was the one who pursued her!!
Quote from: LadyLenox on December 19, 2016, 03:55:44 AM
Apparently Meghan's nephew has said they playfully call each other "Husband" and "Wife".
Meghan's nephew, along with the half-brother and almost certainly the half-sister Samantha (who can't make up her mind as to whether Meghan is Saint Diana 2 or Demon Meg the social climber) probably haven't seen their half relative in about 15 years or more. You can tell that as that side of the family seem have no snaps of her as an adult at all. So I would say the comment about Meghan and Harry calling each other 'hubby' and 'wifey' is imaginary.
I don't know whether the nephew really did say it, but in fact it does sound suspiciously like an article I once read in the early years of the Chelsy/Harry relationship. In that article it was stated that Chelsy referred to herself as 'wifey' when texting Harry. It sounded so unlike the Chelsy Davy portrayed in the media that I've always remembered it, though it must be now well over a decade since I read it. So I guess old stories sometimes get trawled through by journos and re-dressed up in new clothes and repeated again and again as the years go by.
Sounds like Yale helped you write the article as well. I'd live to know who are these "insiders" are.
Telling posters they're jealous isn't an accusation thats perfectly fine for the forum. perhaps this isn't the forum for anyone who believes they're entitled to name calling. And for the record, I was joking.
^ my sentiments also.
I'm sorry to see that this thread has become a Meghan teenage fangurling posts. There aren't any level-headed logical discussions anymore of opinions or observations. It has become either .... A: those who love them together are "insiders" and JUST KNOWS that they are soooo in lurve :wub: and that Prince Charles, Wills and Kate soooo approves of Meghan. :girlblush: :girlblush: :girlblush: OR B:: those who say anything against of Meghan are JUST so "jealous" of her. :ahhh:
OH well... :blink:
Btw... regarding that Daily Mail article, what's a "part-time vegan"??? Aren't you either a vegan or NOT a vegan??? :wink:
Hell will freeze over before he marries this one ... the signs are there ... she is used for you know what and is sent on her merry way on the 6th Day that is how long he can bare her presence and how "serious" he is about her ... I still say he and Chelsy will marry quietly when they are at least 38 ...
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Oh boy! Some people still insist on unearthing corpses :lol: :lol: Harry and Chelsy? I think Harry does not even remember her anymore. And red flags for Meghan mean nothing, are of people envious and frustrated :hehe:.
By the way, I'm far from being a teenager.
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They spent the whole week together! :wub: :wub: :consoling1:
Prince Harry drops Meghan Markel at Heathrow airport to fly home | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4047414/Prince-Harry-drops-Meghan-Markel-Heathrow-airport-fly-home.html)
^ He can't bare to have her around for more than 7 Days ... that is the issue ... at 35 she is a spoiled man child's bed warmer after two separations ... nothing to be "envious" about it ... in fact she should hang her head in shame ... she is 35 ...
^ let's not forget leaving her behind to go hunting in bavaria. That's nearly a week. For two people dating for months, they can only manage spend 2-5 and a half days together. Oh I can so see her in a tiara one day....in a film
When Harry went hunting in Bavaria Meghan was then in Toronto filming Suits. Nobody knows except the two of them and his RPOs how many times they've seen each other since May/June.
This is ridiculous...of course he would have preferred Meghan to stay but he has royal duties the next 2 days then a Christmas eve lunch then church on Sunday...Does that sound like he has time to you?
[gmod]For the FINAL time - please stop making this thread about each other. This needs to stop now. Give your opinion, debate and debate some more. But to accuse those that disagree with you of being "jealous" or "writing articles" is unacceptable here on this Forum.
You all know what I'm talking about.
It's Christmas!!!! SCxx :xmas9:
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Chelsy and Harry are never ever getting back together. :teehee:
I feel bad for Harry because anybody that he dates will go under lots of scrutiny and no one will ever please anyone in the public eye. Perhaps that's what he likes about Meghan the fact that she is comfortable in the media attention. I mean, she really seems to love every minute of the attention that she is getting! I am sure that will wear off for her as well.
I am fairly certain that the article from yesterday mentioned that Harry went hunting when Meghan was in Toronto and not in the last week when she was in London.
She looks terrible at the airport really. I mean ripped jeans and old shoes at 35? My mom would give me a good talking to travelling like that and I am not even being photographed most places I go. :lol: But at least it seems that she isn't as concerned as I thought about looking perfect for the camera! :happy:
That's how that generation dresses. Cressida who is somewhat younger and Chelsy all dressed that way. And Meghan and Harry wore very casual outfits to the theatre. Those ripped jeans can cost much $$$$$.
For a relationship to be serious, don't they have to AT LEAST live in the same 40-mile radius? in the same city? in the same country at least? :hmm: Only then can there be responsibility and accountability to their commitment & to each other. Only then can they know their compatibility and how they view life and duty. And w/ Harry's life, accountability, responsibility and duty will play a big role. ( Despite the many here who keep saying Harry can do as he pleases w/o a care for what others think. )
They don't even have to move in together, just move to the same country to try out the relationship in REAL LIFE. Like what Princess Mary did. She moved from Australia to Denmark and they had a relationship for more than a couple of years before getting married. Until then, IMO, this is just a "vacation relationship" where everything and every moment is like smelling roses. :flower: :cloud9:
And btw,Meghan has no work now. Suits is over and its future is uncertain. And it'll be some time before they start shooting again. So this will be a test to their commitment in this "relationship". Well, who knows, she may move to London in January. Then the real test begins.
Btw, regarding Chelsy.... I don't know if they'll ever get back together. It seems far fetched and she has her own career and money. It was rumored that she didn't want to be another Kate where everything would be dictated and your life would have to be "handled". But there were columnist who've always stated that Chelsy is to Harry what Camilla is to Charles. Their first love who they'll always go back to. :crazylove: (I'm talking about long term) And maybe they are right in that account.
^ I don't know if he will marry Chelsy or at all one thing is for sure though ... he won't marry this one and not in the near future ... some people and the press are definitely jumping the gun on this one ... this is ridiculous ...
^ It's the American magazines and tabloids that are more aggressive about this. They can't wait to have an American princess to feature in fashion or Social Media every week. It's always been about the bottom line and selling more papers or rags for them. And if it turns out into another scandalous divorce, heck, it's not their RF or history that's going to be the laughing stock of the world.
American Vogue is sucking up fast and hard. (Although I've lost faith in them since they feature Kim & Kanye on their cover, I mean WTF! :censored2: ) I don't see this in French Vogue, at least they're really more about fashion.
Anyway, we can all wait and see what happens. I think Harry can still save his image and make better decisions.
Quote from: SophieChloe on December 19, 2016, 07:14:25 PM
For the FINAL time - please stop making this thread about each other. This needs to stop now. Give your opinion, debate and debate some more. But to accuse those that disagree with you of being "jealous" or "writing articles" is unacceptable here on this Forum.
You all know what I'm talking about.
It's Christmas!!!! SCxx :xmas9:
Who defends the couple was called a teenager,
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Lol lol marry Chelsy? People don't give up!
Harry is going to marry Meghan and I'm still going to laugh a lot of who's against :D :D :D :lol:
Quote from: Kinkade on December 20, 2016, 01:30:26 PM
^ It's the American magazines and tabloids that are more aggressive about this. They can't wait to have an American princess to feature in fashion or Social Media every week. It's always been about the bottom line and selling more papers or rags for them. And if it turns out into another scandalous divorce, heck, it's not their RF or history that's going to be the laughing stock of the world.
American Vogue is sucking up fast and hard. (Although I've lost faith in them since they feature Kim & Kanye on their cover, I mean WTF! :censored2: ) I don't see this in French Vogue, at least they're really more about fashion.
Anyway, we can all wait and see what happens. I think Harry can still save his image and make better decisions.
Actually I think you are wrong about that. The American media hasn't published any more than British media. To be perfectly honest the one royal everyone was interested in and fed the bottom line was Harry's mother. The Queen and Camilla get more articles here then Meghan.
As a side note this is the Season of good cheer so why not stop bashing Meghan and Harry for their relationship and hope for the best if they make each other happy that is all that matters.
:xmas21:As a side note this is the Season of good cheer so why not stop bashing Meghan and Harry for their relationship and hope for the best if they make each other happy that is all that matters.
@Trudie Thank you
@Trudie!
Quote from: Cat00 on December 20, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: SophieChloe on December 19, 2016, 07:14:25 PM
For the FINAL time - please stop making this thread about each other. This needs to stop now. Give your opinion, debate and debate some more. But to accuse those that disagree with you of being "jealous" or "writing articles" is unacceptable here on this Forum.
You all know what I'm talking about.
It's Christmas!!!! SCxx :xmas9:
Who defends the couple was called a teenager,
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Lol lol marry Chelsy? People don't give up!
Harry is going to marry Meghan and I'm still going to laugh a lot of who's against :D :D :D :lol:
If he does I am afraid it's the people who are "against" that are going to have the last laugh ... not that this will last beyond Spring ... but in case Harry is that far gone it will be his funeral ... I will be here being amused at it all ... believe it or not some are not as invested in this "relationship" as you seem to be ...
Quote from: Trudie on December 20, 2016, 04:08:25 PM
Actually I think you are wrong about that. The American media hasn't published any more than British media. To be perfectly honest the one royal everyone was interested in and fed the bottom line was Harry's mother. The Queen and Camilla get more articles here then Meghan.
Actually, you only need to look at US Weekly's front page the past couple of weeks to know that American magazines are pushing really hard on this. :blink: (Though, I'm sure Brad and Angie are happy about that .) Gossip columnists are even saying "INSIDERS" are leaking to American publications because they are more "favorable" of Meghan rather than British papers who used the "straight outta compton" to describe Meghan before. I mean, look at US Weekly's cover this week, titled "Why the Queen approves A Princess for Harry"!!! :teehee: How laughable is that? Like the Queen would even deign to give "insider info" to an American tabloid magazine.
*Btw, I'm not picking a fight, sorry if it sounds that way. I'm just trying to get my point across about how stupid is it that American tabloid magazines think they can get people to believe that they have the "insider line" to the Palace and even Her Majesty herself. :lol:
And if you follow American Vogue on twitter and Facebook, (like I did), I saw a Meghan post in my timeline every other day. (I got so sick of it I had to unsubscribe) It was basically the same picture of her coming out of yoga but they re-post it w/ only a slightly different article. I mean, Vogue was talking about workout wear or jackets (that any of us would've worn outside of the gym) like its the next fashion statement. American Vogue never gave her the time of the day when it was just about her "work" on Suits.
NOTE: I'm not bashing Meghan, but the American rags who are pushing hard on this that they've missed the point. But that's another issue I have w/ American Vogue who've been focused more lately on "celebrity" than actual fashion and culture.
This will end in tears FOR Harry ... she will get what she wants out of this which is attention and the movie roles she never got even though she is 35 right now way past her selling date for an actress ... she never made it and this is her chance ... HE on the other hand ... will come out of this less popular and with Chuck angry ...
Quote from: Kinkade on December 21, 2016, 01:46:54 AM
Quote from: Trudie on December 20, 2016, 04:08:25 PM
Actually I think you are wrong about that. The American media hasn't published any more than British media. To be perfectly honest the one royal everyone was interested in and fed the bottom line was Harry's mother. The Queen and Camilla get more articles here then Meghan.
Actually, you only need to look at US Weekly's front page the past couple of weeks to know that American magazines are pushing really hard on this. :blink: (Though, I'm sure Brad and Angie are happy about that .) Gossip columnists are even saying "INSIDERS" are leaking to American publications because they are more "favorable" of Meghan rather than British papers who used the "straight outta compton" to describe Meghan before. I mean, look at US Weekly's cover this week, titled "Why the Queen approves A Princess for Harry"!!! :teehee: How laughable is that? Like the Queen would even deign to give "insider info" to an American tabloid magazine.
*Btw, I'm not picking a fight, sorry if it sounds that way. I'm just trying to get my point across about how stupid is it that American tabloid magazines think they can get people to believe that they have the "insider line" to the Palace and even Her Majesty herself. :lol:
And if you follow American Vogue on twitter and Facebook, (like I did), I saw a Meghan post in my timeline every other day. (I got so sick of it I had to unsubscribe) It was basically the same picture of her coming out of yoga but they re-post it w/ only a slightly different article. I mean, Vogue was talking about workout wear or jackets (that any of us would've worn outside of the gym) like its the next fashion statement. American Vogue never gave her the time of the day when it was just about her "work" on Suits.
NOTE: I'm not bashing Meghan, but the American rags who are pushing hard on this that they've missed the point. But that's another issue I have w/ American Vogue who've been focused more lately on "celebrity" than actual fashion and culture.
No apology is needed I didn't take it that you were picking a fight I never look at US weekly as I think it is the bottom of the barrel trash for cash. I was talking more on the tabs that grab at the supermarket, The National Enquirer, Star, Globe those are prominently displayed and I haven't seen Meghan on the cover usually it is the Queen, Camilla and Kate. As for American Vogue it is because Anna Wintour has her own agenda regarding Meghan that she is now being featured.
We saw this happen with Cressida ... the press went wild with speculation they would marry especially after WE Day but it was all nonsense ... no way this man child is ready to settle especially with this one ... when he does his bride will be very similar to Cressida/Flee just younger ... a Socialite who doesn't know what to do with her life after she gets her useless Diploma and she will hopefully marry Prince Dim before she wises up ...
What happens is up to the couple. It takes two to make a relationship. I don't see Harry as "dim."
I think some people still do not understand what Harry feels about Meghan. It is not a silly "dating" as he had with the others, he wrote a statement to the press defending her, it is obvious that the relationship is serious. Harry loves her :consoling1:
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Comparing Meghan's relationship with Harry to Harry's relationship with Cressida is ridiculous. He never liked Cressida, he was always sulking beside her. Cressida is futile, empty. :xmas1:
The Queen is 'fully supportive' of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's romance | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4054292/She-s-delighted-Harry-loving-relationship-Queen-fully-supportive-grandson-s-romance-Meghan-Markle.html)
Keep in mind that it is the DM. :xmas10:
Quote from: TLLK on December 21, 2016, 08:21:08 PM
The Queen is 'fully supportive' of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's romance | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4054292/She-s-delighted-Harry-loving-relationship-Queen-fully-supportive-grandson-s-romance-Meghan-Markle.html)
Keep in mind that it is the DM. :xmas10:
It's in AOL news also. I'd believe them over DM.
Quote from: Cat00 on December 21, 2016, 02:38:03 PM
I think some people still do not understand what Harry feels about Meghan. It is not a silly "dating" as he had with the others, he wrote a statement to the press defending her, it is obvious that the relationship is serious. Harry loves her :consoling1:
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Comparing Meghan's relationship with Harry to Harry's relationship with Cressida is ridiculous. He never liked Cressida, he was always sulking beside her. Cressida is futile, empty. :xmas1:
What? Given that Megan is an actress just like Cressida what does that make Megan? He never liked someone he actually spend two Years with? OK ... at least he wasn't ashamed of her like it seems he is of Megan and actually spend more than 7 Days in a row with her ... you are just projecting your own feelings on Harry as you don't know how he feels about Megan or how he felt about his exes ... this is ridiculous ...
Cressida and Harry are over. Couples break up. Maybe the two realized they did not have a future together and moved on. If Harry were ashamed of Meghan he would not have indicated to the press they are an item.
Wasn't there an article from a US publication claiming harry and cress got hm's blessing to marry over a year after the split?
I'm sure any article about hm approving of any of the gfs past and present, is most likely bs. Nothing but click bait.
I don't think the Queen gives very much thought at all to the love interests of her unmarried grandchildren really, unless they become extremely long term and/or an engagement is mooted. She certainly wouldn't be signalling her approval or disapproval of anyone new or old to media outlets. On the other hand I can't see the Queen as a person who would actually forbid anyone from marrying either. She might be talking to Prince Charles about Meghan in the Christmas holidays in a chatting sort of a way, but I doubt that any decision would be made by either of them as to her suitability until Meghan meets Charles on a couple of occasions at the very least.
I will say it again, I think Harry has already met with his grandmother, they have discussed Meghan and has gotten permission to propose to her when he's ready.
Quote from: Curryong on December 22, 2016, 04:20:58 AM
I don't think the Queen gives very much thought at all to the love interests of her unmarried grandchildren really, unless they become extremely long term and/or an engagement is mooted. She certainly wouldn't be signalling her approval or disapproval of anyone new or old to media outlets. On the other hand I can't see the Queen as a person who would actually forbid anyone from marrying either. She might be talking to Prince Charles about Meghan in the Christmas holidays in a chatting sort of a way, but I doubt that any decision would be made by either of them as to her suitability until Meghan meets Charles on a couple of occasions at the very least.
IA, I can imagine her thinking it's beneath her or not worth her time to give an opinion when something is so new.
Quote from: sandy on December 21, 2016, 02:28:40 PM
What happens is up to the couple. It takes two to make a relationship. I don't see Harry as "dim."
I don't see Harry as "dim" either. Just a bit naive in that spoiled rich kid growing up in a bubble/protected environment way. It's a cliché really, you read so many of these stories from old rich families. And I personally know of families w/ these kinds of dramatic lives. History always repeats itself, IMO.
I doubt Liz knows of Megan's existence or cares ... she barely seems to care about Willy who is the future King and how messed up and weird his relationship with his surrogate family the Midds is and their rise to "power" I doubt she would even entertain a conversation about Harry's flavor of the Month ... some are being ridiculous ... he didn't marry Chelsy who he stayed with on and off for 7 Years ... it won't happen with this one ... if he marries at all he will marry waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the line ...
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Quote from: Cat00 on December 21, 2016, 02:38:03 PM
I think some people still do not understand what Harry feels about Meghan. It is not a silly "dating" as he had with the others, he wrote a statement to the press defending her, it is obvious that the relationship is serious. Harry loves her :consoling1:
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Comparing Meghan's relationship with Harry to Harry's relationship with Cressida is ridiculous. He never liked Cressida, he was always sulking beside her. Cressida is futile, empty. :xmas1:
What? Given that Megan is an actress just like Cressida what does that make Megan? He never liked someone he actually spend two Years with? OK ... at least he wasn't ashamed of her like it seems he is of Megan and actually spend more than 7 Days in a row with her ... you are just projecting your own feelings on Harry as you don't know how he feels about Megan or how he felt about his exes ... this is ridiculous ...
I'm not projecting anything. Anyone who has the least intelligence, has realized that Harry likes Meghan and treats her differently than other girlfriends.
Is Harry ashamed of Meghan? never saw more ridiculous and absurd comment! :xmas1: :xmas1:If he had ashamed of her, he would not have assumed to the whole world that they are together, He would have kept the affair a secret :lol: :lol:And why would he be ashamed of her? She is beautiful, intelligent, has content ... is not an idiot girl, airhead like other... :hehe:
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Compare Harry's relationship with Chelsy with Harry's relationship with Meghan is another absurd one! When he dated Chelsy he was a boy, he should not even think of marriage. Now he's a 32-year-old man and is dating a woman of 35 ...
pearl of wisdom :xmas21: :xmas21: :xmas1: :xmas1:
Initially I thought MM ticked all the boxes - at least on paper - however having read her stepsister's account, the story of MM's father going bankrupt without any offer of assistance from his daughter, the fables posted from people who have worked with and alongside MM in short having dug deeper I'm seeing the cracks appearing in the perfect PR facade.
As a Republican truly I couldn't ask for anyone better there will be a lot of drama and in the ensuing cataclysm a lot more questions asked thoughtfully and with humility by the people concerning the legitimacy of a Constitutional Monarchy.
^^ To assume they will marry just because of how old they are is not a "pearl of wisdom" just saying ... besides ... Harry is mentally 20 ... I bet you Harry would have LOVED to have kept it all a secret but someone LEAKED it to the press and then got the lawyers involved ... a relationship who begins like that can never end well ... he was seeing someone else before she leaked the whatever they had to the press and then created a huge drama with LAWYERS in Town which lead to the ignorant statement ...
Minerva what are you talking about? Didn't you hear her half sisters OWN family dislikes her...Called her a liar...Meghan JUST spent Thanksgiving with both of her parents so I doubt she isn't supporting them.Bankruptcy doesn't mean you are poor...
QuoteMeghan Markle's half-sister claims Prince Harry 'would be appalled' by behaviour | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3895738/The-truth-kill-relationship-Harry-Meghan-Markle-s-half-sister-claims-Prince-appalled-knew-long-aspiring-princess-let-father-bankrupt.html)
I have very firm opinions on the subject
@LadyLenox as apparently do you so I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree at this juncture. I am not attempting to sway your judgement and neither shall my judgement be swayed in the direction of supporting MM. Also I'm not here to judge Samantha's character as she will not be taxpayer funded unlike her sibling should she join the firm plus I find argumentum ad homiem attacks to be banal.
Quote from: LadyLenox on December 22, 2016, 05:04:28 PM
Minerva what are you talking about? Didn't you hear her half sisters OWN family dislikes her...Called her a liar...Meghan JUST spent Thanksgiving with both of her parents so I doubt she isn't supporting them.Bankruptcy doesn't mean you are poor...
I read that as well. The one sister sounds extremely jealous and bitter that her sister has success. It seems she expects Meghan to help her out of her own miserable life and selling these stories to enrich herself.
Quote from: Trudie on December 22, 2016, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: LadyLenox on December 22, 2016, 05:04:28 PM
Minerva what are you talking about? Didn't you hear her half sisters OWN family dislikes her...Called her a liar...Meghan JUST spent Thanksgiving with both of her parents so I doubt she isn't supporting them.Bankruptcy doesn't mean you are poor...
I read that as well. The one sister sounds extremely jealous and bitter that her sister has success. It seems she expects Meghan to help her out of her own miserable life and selling these stories to enrich herself.
With half sisters like that, who needs enemies? I really hate it when family members do the dirty on celebrities just because the gutter press dangle dollars. There is such a thing as privacy and family loyalty. Anyway it seems the dear prince is hooked so they are just alienating their sister for no good cause :hehe:
I always thought the saying to be 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander'. If MM stands to profit by association why not her siblings?
MAC ON... Prince Harry and Meghan Markle | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3918638/MAC-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html)
Meghan Markle opens up to PIERS MORGAN about dating and death threats | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3930672/People-wanted-kill-says-Prince-Harry-s-girl-Meghan-Markle-opens-PIERS-MORGAN-dating-death-threats-embarrassing-television-moment-date.html)
Piers Morgan reveals his friendship with Meghan Markle (http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016111434591/piers-morgan-meghan-markle-friendship/)
Meghan never asked Piers to out their private conversation...Everyone wants a piece and relationship with Meghan now that she is a Royal Gf...People who saw her is passing will claim to know her personally now,that's just the way it is.If anyone is seeking attention it's Samantha...Her name was Samantha Grant on Twitter and when the news of PH and Meghan came back suddenly she was Samantha G Markle...Her own family won't talk to her and she follows royal Twitter accounts because she wants a piece of the pie...Meghan is just dating a Prince and even she probably doesn't see him that way,she was already successful before Harry.I'm positive PH and Meghan's relationship is built on love,not attention or rising status...She doesn't see a title she loves and wants the man.
Quote from: Minerva on December 22, 2016, 06:07:06 PM
I always thought the saying to be 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander'. If MM stands to profit by association why not her siblings?
MAC ON... Prince Harry and Meghan Markle | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3918638/MAC-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle.html)
Meghan Markle opens up to PIERS MORGAN about dating and death threats | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3930672/People-wanted-kill-says-Prince-Harry-s-girl-Meghan-Markle-opens-PIERS-MORGAN-dating-death-threats-embarrassing-television-moment-date.html)
Piers Morgan reveals his friendship with Meghan Markle (http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016111434591/piers-morgan-meghan-markle-friendship/)
I always thought that cartoon was such an accurate description of the whole drama Meghan draw up w/ her lawyers.
But it seems another thirsty celebrity is Piers Morgan. I've always wondered what he's been doing since he left CNN. I can still remember watching his last message on his last episode on CNN Live. Very dramatic and full of himself. JMO.
It's quite impossible to say what MM's motives are without being MM. As actions speak louder than words I think it's easy to surmise though.
Inside the Suits' fashion closet with actress Meghan Markle - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZonwIYmMI)
Burberry, Carolina Herrera, totally down to earth brands those are.
PH on the other hand has made it abundantly clear how 'serious' he is about the relationship through his actions and not his words:
Prince Harry secretly dated English model while wooing Meghan Markle | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3908986/Harry-SECOND-hottie-Prince-secretly-dated-English-model-wooing-American-actress-Meghan-Markle-don-t-look-alike.html)
@Kinkade the whole thing is a showmance IMO carefully staged in the beginning months in the planning but not so carefully managed as it falls apart at the seams.
This was back in November. Harry never spoke of the model publicly as his girlfriend.
^ If he was interested in the model even though he had already something going on with Megan it shows Megan isn't as special as some want to believe ... she saw Harry is the type who gets bored easily and moves on from one to the next and she created a big drama with lawyers in Town and used the race card creating a "us against the World" scenario to keep him interested ... what she got about Harry is that he is mentally a teenager who will rebel if someone tells him what to do and used that in her favor ... it won't for for much longer though ... it will end the minute she asks for any type of commitment ...
Harry is known to date around until he finds a serious relationship...That's just Harry.He is sticking with Meghan.
The important thing is that now Harry is dating Meghan and took over the relationship for the whole world, the model and ex girlfriends IS PAST :hi: :P
^ So will Megan ... soon ... no way this will last ... she knows it too that is why she is milking it for all that is worth ...
Only she knows what she knows. The rest is speculation.
Prince Harry spotted doing last-minute shopping in London | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4062280/Prince-Harry-spotted-doing-minute-shopping-London.html)
At Opium, no less. I wonder whether he was after some unique earrings or a necklace?
Quote from: sandy on December 24, 2016, 12:15:31 AM
Only she knows what she knows. The rest is speculation.
Which is what we do here ... you acted for 3 Years like he hated Cressida even though you had no idea what the stranger that is Harry thought or thinks ... so ...
I never said he Hated Cressida. I said he looked like he'd rather be someplace else and rushed ahead of her. Which meant he was not that interested in her which does not mean he "hated her." In any case both moved on...
It seems that Prince Harry was a no show at the traditional ball game this year and no one knows why. Well, they don't but I do! 😁 He is on a plane on his way to see Meghan!!
Quote from: Yale on December 25, 2016, 12:31:34 AM
It seems that Prince Harry was a no show at the traditional ball game this year and no one knows why. Well, they don't but I do! 😁 He is on a plane on his way to see Meghan!!
Haha I wish but doesn't he spend Christmas Day with his grandparents...I thought they said he was flying out on the 26th? I think this is the week Harry meets Meghan's parents since her mom was seen leaving Los Angeles for Toronto...
His grandmother gave him the okay to skip the traditional ball game because he was desperate to be with Meghan. And he can go see her and meet her mother at the same time.
Harry celebrating the Xmas with the Markle prove things are going well, I highly doubt the Queen have issues with it and she still not feeling well, sames goes for Phillp both need time to feel better so having everyone go their own way seem to be the Right choice.
I hope the media don't ruin it for harry with the Markle clan and give them all space to get to know it other.
I wonder if Harry will take this opportunity to ask her father for her hand? They are all going to be at Megan house for Xmas I highly doubt her parents will say no seeing how happy their only daughter is around him.
Harry's back has been playing up over the last few months, a combination of an old polo accident and army service. I doubt that he thought a football match in the icy cold and sleet would improve matters, especially if he's due to have a post Xmas break with Meghan immediately after Boxing Day.
At this point I think they've both talked about it and are down for marriage but it takes more than just them. There is no longer date for a few months than marriage. All the last marriages in this family have dated for years before marriage and I don't see HM changing it for them. That formula has been working so they won't take a chance with this one. I've read that Charles is against this and so is taking over KP after this circus came to be. She has already signed on for at least one more season of suits so it won't be this coming year against the very least.
^
One has to be very naive to believe in tabloids that say Charles is against an early marriage, There is no way to know what he thinks, they are only speculations and lies, and I find it very unlikely that Harry will wait that long. He is 32 years old, Meghan 35 and they live in different countries, it is only natural that they want to rush things. And about she having signed with the series for a new season there is nothing concrete and the contracts can be broken.
:xmas21: :xmas21:
Clearly I'm not the naive one here. No tabloids have said any of this. But tabloids can be believed if they reinforce what we would like to believe I see. No contracts just can't be broken. She can be sued if she doesn't complete what she's signed on for. I take it that they are taking their time and she continues to work because it's made clear that it will not happen this year. We don't know what they want since neither has made it known they want to marry soon.
Quote from: HsHCharlene on December 25, 2016, 08:56:57 PM
At this point I think they've both talked about it and are down for marriage but it takes more than just them. There is no longer date for a few months than marriage. All the last marriages in this family have dated for years before marriage and I don't see HM changing it for them. That formula has been working so they won't take a chance with this one. I've read that Charles is against this and so is taking over KP after this circus came to be. She has already signed on for at least one more season of suits so it won't be this coming year against the very least.
I don't think the QUeen issued an edict about how long her grandchildren may date. Kate and William met while in their early twenties when both were University students. FOr obvious reasons, they would not marry at University. Meghan and Harry are in their thirties so for obvious reasons I doubt they would wait the ten years that Kate and William waited. They would be in their forties and if they want, children and have their first while she's in her forties there could be some risks. Sophie in her thirties had childbearing issues--had an ectopic pregnancy and a premature birth that risked her life and her baby's (Louise).
Quote from: HsHCharlene on December 25, 2016, 09:49:58 PM
Clearly I'm not the naive one here. No tabloids have said any of this. But tabloids can be believed if they reinforce what we would like to believe I see. No contracts just can't be broken. She can be sued if she doesn't complete what she's signed on for. I take it that they are taking their time and she continues to work because it's made clear that it will not happen this year. We don't know what they want since neither has made it known they want to marry soon.
Well, apparently, in this forum topic, it ISN'T naive to BELIEVE TABLOIDS when they say that Harry & Meghan are sooo in lurve & ready to marry :wub:, or that Meghan has met P. Charles and has the his approval (no proof yet), or that Meghan has had dinner w/ Will & Kate a week after dating news came out ( w/c turned out to be false)... OR the BEST ONE yet, that Buckingham Palace has an "insider to US weekly magazine" saying the Queen sooo approves of Meghan. :blink: :lol: :lol: :lol: (AS IF! Her Majesty would deign to talk to US weekly insiders ... :lol: <_< )
ON THE OTHER HAND, it IS apparently naive to think that given Harry's family messy divorces and separations in the past, Harry would be prudent enough to take his time and think things through. But nooo.... Meghan's biological clock is ticking like crazy, so that MUST mean, they have to marry soon. :orchid:
OH WELL, I believe we're all outsiders here anyway and we're all speculating and just discussing what we think. I don't think anybody here has any "insider" info to claim anything as fact or truth.
Personally, I have always pictured P. Harry as that cool, unmarried, playboy, fun uncle for George & Charlotte. You know, the one that George would go to to get in trouble or away from his stiff parents. I can just imagine a teenager George learning to drink or party from his Uncle Harry. :partaay: But that's just me. :hehe:
Cheers! :partaay: Happy Christmas people! :xmas21:
Quote from: HsHCharlene on December 25, 2016, 09:49:58 PM
Clearly I'm not the naive one here. No tabloids have said any of this. But tabloids can be believed if they reinforce what we would like to believe I see. No contracts just can't be broken. She can be sued if she doesn't complete what she's signed on for. I take it that they are taking their time and she continues to work because it's made clear that it will not happen this year. We don't know what they want since neither has made it known they want to marry soon.
"It's clear that it will not happen this year"
How do you know? Do you live with them? I think they will be getting married soon for the reasons I said, now what they are planning no one knows. The problem is that whoever is against the relationship, is cheering that they don't get married, neither next year, nor ever! <_<
If Charles is smart hed make sure the two of them take their time and be as sure as can be, im sure he wished hed had another 6-12 months to court Diana, although I think for many reasons weve discussed it was too late for both of them.
Harry is close to the age Charles married, and like Charles seems to love bachelorhood, whereas William seemed more keen to settle down. Now luckily for Harry hes not marrying a barley out of her teens girl, so thats in their favor.
As to when they might marry, id imagine it would be when she has a hiatus for her show, unless she can buy them out of her contract. Just cause they marry, doesnt mean she has to stop working the next day. So theres lots of opportunity for nuptials, but I hope when/if they go down the aisle, theyre ready for it.
Really hope this generation of royals can stay as divorce free as possible.
The article mentioned that Prince Harry and Meghan purchased a Christmas tree. What type of ornaments did they use?
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^ Heaven knows what ornaments they used on that tree! I can't imagine Harry having a huge box of ornaments on a shelf back at Nott Cott. It was rumoured that the couple later hosted an Xmas party, so the tree must have been decorated somehow. There may have been ornaments in boxes in a cupboard at KP, perhaps used by staff. Maybe one or another of them had bought a set of ornaments from a shop earlier. Who knows!
Well Harry did look comfortable with the craft materials at the Heads Together Party, so it's possible that Harry has hobbies that none of us ever considered! :xmas1: He may have inherited Phillip and Charles' artistic talents after all!.
^ You are right, TLLK! I'd forgotten about Harry's creative side. :xmas4: When they got home and realised they had few Xmas tree ornaments :xmas10: Harry immediately rushed to the kitchen of Nott Cott, where Meghan was whipping up a platter of delicious mini choc reindeer biscuits for the party. He borrowed some dough from her, and bob's your uncle!
Ornament Dough Recipe - Allrecipes.com (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/9528/ornament-dough/)
im guessing everyone will have to wait until/if the tree shows up on Instagram to know for sure. Heres some possible options :xmas9: :xmas21: :xmas10:
It'was Boxing Day today. So, I wonder if Harry flew out to be with Meghan today? There is nothing in the news about it today.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Harry joined in the shoot organised by his grandfather for Boxing Day. Prince Philip looked very frail on the church walk on Xmas Day but Harry was there and might not have wanted to let his grandfather down.. Edward Wessex is still at Sandringham, I believe, and sometimes neighbours join that shoot as well, which doesn't end until late afternoon usually. Harry might wait until tomorrow, when other visitors arrive at Sandringham, before leaving.
These might be his grandparent's last Holidays and with what happened to Zara whom he adores ... I doubt Harry will leave his family's side any time soon ... as for Megan ... the next few Months will be telling on whenever their relationship will continue ... if she intents to keep this a Transatlantic relationship it will be over soon ...
When Harry does a singleton vacation, all his goodness is questioned. I hope he knows that at 32 going 33 it's not a lad thing anymore.
Whatever made him decide to do the Meghan official statement for the entire world to know, he will have to live with it whatever the outcome. He seems to be happy doing firsts with her, playing house with her and all that comes with it.
"If she intends to keep this transatlantic relationship going, it will be over soon."
This statement doesn't make one bit of sense. First of all, he pursued her. Secondly, Meghan is not the only one in this relationship making it work. Thirdly, they have both been travelling back and forth since they
have been together.
I bet Harry is already with Meghan in Canada or the United States.
I wish he would get some sense and settle down with a woman whom he could marry...
I kind of get the sense that Harry does the opposite of what people expect of him. He is a rebel and that's probably why he likes Meghan. On paper she is the opposite of what he should he 'should' choose.One things for sure and that is that this will be very interesting to watch playout.
I think Harry and Meghan can marry if they so choose and get permission. After all, the Queen let in Camilla Parker Bowles, a divorcee and married mistress and the other woman in Charles' first marriage.
Gregg Sulkin Reveals Who Meghan Markle Really Is?and Why She'd Make a Perfect Princess | E! News (http://m.eonline.com/news/818132/gregg-sulkin-reveals-who-meghan-markle-really-is-and-why-she-d-make-a-perfect-princess)
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This is the second British actor to speak in favor or in support of Meghan.
Quote from: Curryong on December 26, 2016, 11:30:18 PM
^ You are right, TLLK! I'd forgotten about Harry's creative side. :xmas4: When they got home and realised they had few Xmas tree ornaments :xmas10: Harry immediately rushed to the kitchen of Nott Cott, where Meghan was whipping up a platter of delicious mini choc reindeer biscuits for the party. He borrowed some dough from her, and bob's your uncle!
Ornament Dough Recipe - Allrecipes.com (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/9528/ornament-dough/)
I'm expecting to see a HGTV aka Home and Garden TV special featuring the pair for 2017. :xmas1:
QuotePrince Harry's girl Meghan Markle works to sweat off that Christmas dinner with the help of her yoga instructor mother
Meghan Markle may have spent Christmas away from boyfriend Prince Harry - but she appears to be enjoying spending some quality time at home with her mother.
The Suits actress, 35, was spotted leaving a yoga class with her mother Doria, 60, in Toronto on Tuesday.
Meghan was dressed down in a khaki parka jacket, matching woolly hat and black leggings, which she teamed with her favourite £96 Kamik snow boots.
Read more: Prince Harry's girl Meghan Markle works to sweat off that Christmas dinner with the help of her yoga instructor mother | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4068804/Prince-Harry-s-girl-Meghan-Markle-works-sweat-Christmas-dinner-help-yoga-instructor-mother.html#ixzz4U98o4JBX)
The Meghan modus operandi is to appear in the paparazzi/news before doing the disappearing act with her prince. 😀🙃
Quote from: wannable on December 28, 2016, 03:55:12 PM
The Meghan modus operandi is to appear in the paparazzi/news before doing the disappearing act with her prince. 😀🙃
I was thinking the same thing. I think he flew to see her on Dec 26th but nothing has been in the news. 10 to 1 They are together!!
Prince Harry's pub drinks with his friend and mentor as Meghan Markle wraps up against freezing temperatures an ocean away | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4071436/Prince-Harry-s-pub-drinks-friend-mentor-Meghan-Markle-wraps-against-freezing-temperatures-ocean-away.html)
According to this article and pics he had drinks with Mark Dyer. So that would mean he hasn't gone to TO yet.
Dyer was a rather ineffectual mentor for Harry. Harry would get in scrapes when Dyer was around. I recall Harry had a confrontation with the paparazzi and Dyer did not intervene.
^ Harry might not go to Toronto. The fact that he was at Sandringham for the Boxing Day shoot (and saw Zara who apparently arrived to see her grandmother with her family on that day) tells me that Harry stayed with his grandparents for longer than usual this year before returning to London. I think the next time we shall see or hear anything of Harry and Meghan will be when they take a break somewhere sunny in early January.
You all are forgetting that Harry is a master at outsmarting the press! I would bet odds that Harry is with Meghan either in Canada or the United States right now.
The DM and other outlets make up stories when these two have disappeared. Harry and Meghan have been unseen and only the Lord knows for exactly how long they have been unseen.
Harry was pictured in London at Dyers and Megan is pictured in Toronto with her mom.That's not hiding.
The paps are following the her all over town. That Fresh restaurant is quite far from where she lives. It is likely that she drove there with her mother and they followed her.
Also the Daily Mail is making her seem so much more high class for some reason, making it seem that the restaurant is a place that all the celebs in Toronto hang out. :hmm: It is not. Everyone eats at Fresh. I have eaten at that one a few times since it is about a 10 minute walk from my place. It's not expensive or ritzy.
It's interesting that Harry and she have not gotten together for the new year yet.
Ya'll we don't when those pictures were taken and as far as Harry being with this mentor the picture in the DM was not good. We don't know that was actually Harry also we too don't when that was taken.
I think he's with Meghan!
^ I think it's rather weird some ignore pictures ... he isn't with Megan as he can't bare her presence for more than 6 Days ... all signs point to the fact they won't be spending New Year's Eve together either ... I doubt those two will be seen together again as I am sure someone got an earful ... no way whatever he has will Megan will survive all this time with his family I am sure he was tolled what's what ...
So true. Fresh is an average priced decent place to eat. I wouldn't even call it a restaurant. It is a vegetarian place and I don't know which one they went to, but it is usually crowded with little privacy.
Reitmans is another one. I have never ever stepped in a Reitmans store. I am not a snob, but their clothes are boring, I mean it is similar to shopping at Walmart. Not a place to go if you like fashionable stuff or classic pieces that will last long. It is cheap and boring.
Not to discredit Meghan, she's making bucks wherever she can and I have eaten at Fresh multiple times.
A positive note on her. I think she has a great eye. Her house is beautiful:
Meghan Markle Home Tour - Prince Harry's Girlfriend Meghan Markle (http://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/celebrity-homes/a7683/meghan-markle-home-tour/)
I am really conflicted on this relationship. On one hand it would be fashion p0rn and gosh she is so beautiful, and I think smart. On the other hand is she a thirsty D-Lister who thinks she's hit the jackpot? Would she be able to not speak her mind on politically sensitive issues (I know I wouldn't be)?
I've seen a few of the books she's posted on Instagram here and there and I am impressed.
I am sure they will spend NYE together, probably in Toronto where Harry will meet her mom.
^We shall see ... personally I can't see this last past Spring ... seeing how Harry is acting with her I can tell he hasn't changed ... no way this man child is ready to settle ...
I'm sure Meghan wanted to spend Christmas with her mother and will be with Harry Either Tomorrow or The 31st since they have a vacation soon and then Meghan's mission in India...Also Harry has never said he couldn't spend 6 days with her...If they spent that much time together they might as well be living together and it's too early for that...Sounds like their relationship has great morals and that's actually fantastic! Not sure Harry could sneak into the Toronto Airport anymore since they are waiting for him now to show ...Last time they waited for them he outsmarted them and was already there...They know what they are doing...
Prince Harry looks dapper as he leaves a pub lunch in Chelsea | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4075660/He-s-festive-mode-suited-booted-Prince-Harry-looks-dapper-leaves-pub-lunch-Chelsea.html)
I can imagine Harry would want Meghan more comfortable in London so they will meet there more often.The paparazzi would easily catch them in Toronto...Have a feeling Meghan will be in London either today or tomorrow.Does Harry usually dress up for lunch?
They are together and should be firmer than ever. This protection and discretion that he has with her shows that his intentions are serious. She has not posted anything else on social networks ... think next year they will announce the engagement. :consoling1: :cloud9:
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Quote from: LadyLenox on December 30, 2016, 04:50:16 PM
I can imagine Harry would want Meghan more comfortable in London so they will meet there more often.The paparazzi would easily catch them in Toronto...Have a feeling Meghan will be in London either today or tomorrow.Does Harry usually dress up for lunch?
I think she's already in London. I also found it strange that he wore a suit to go to a pub
News outlets online are writing meaningless articles about each of them now and that has been going on for the last few days. And I understand Meghan has not posted on Instagram or her sites this week at all either.
This means that Harry and Meghan have disappeared and together for New Years!
Quote from: Yale on December 31, 2016, 08:34:55 PM
News outlets online are writing meaningless articles about each of them now and that has been going on for the last few days. And I understand Meghan has not posted on Instagram or her sites this week at all either.
This means that Harry and Meghan have disappeared and together for New Years!
I agree! Now I'm deciding whether I want them to have their privacy or if I just want ONE picture or even to be spotted...I just want to know where they went!!!
Quote from: LadyLenox on December 31, 2016, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: Yale on December 31, 2016, 08:34:55 PM
News outlets online are writing meaningless articles about each of them now and that has been going on for the last few days. And I understand Meghan has not posted on Instagram or her sites this week at all either.
This means that Harry and Meghan have disappeared and together for New Years!
I agree! Now I'm deciding whether I want them to have their privacy or if I just want ONE picture or even to be spotted...I just want to know where they went!!!
I also agree with you!! I am hoping against hope that Harry will propose as the clock strikes midnight wherever they are.
Unlikely. I think this is just like his other relationships, long distance, short in duration.. and will end soon...
Quote from: amabel on January 01, 2017, 12:44:38 PM
Unlikely. I think this is just like his other relationships, long distance, short in duration.. and will end soon...
No, this relationship is very different from the others in every way. Harry is older, is dating an older woman too, he wants to get married, have children ... and Meghan is all he needs. Mature, intelligent, self-assured, humanitarian, and so o... :)
^^ Cressida Bonas, whom Harry dated for two years, (not a short amount of time) lived in London, so after Harry came back from serving in Afghanistan they were in the same city. Chelsy came to Britain to study at Leeds university during the latter part of her and Harry's courtship so that wasn't long distance, they were in the same country. Harry met her at 19 and they were together for around six years so the relationship wasn't of a short duration either.
In about 4 months they will have been together a year. Hopefully something will happen between now and then or shortly after. He may wait until their year dating anniversary to propose. That would be romantic also.
The question isn't is she suitable or do they love each other, the big question is can she give up the career she has fought so hard to get. Being humanitarian as a side interest is one thing devoting your life to it is another. Now if she can give up her career it will work if not it won't. Grace Kelleys marriag suffered because she was forced to give up acting. So that will be the turning point for the relationship.
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I think she would have no problem giving up her career. She has already said she has difficulty finding roles because of her ethnicity. For some it is too white and for others too black. She can also continue with the humanitarian work in Africa, UN and also the Tig site I don't see problem
Experts have said that they see no reason why she can't continue acting. So, well see. Harry is a senior royal, yes, but he is not direct in line for the throne any longer.
She may have to quit "Suits" though as Harry probably will not want his wife away for months at a time.
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UPDATE:
"Someone just posted on Twitter that they've just seen Prince Harry get on their Norwegian Flight."--- This was posted on another forum and the person went on to say that they were so sure it was him, that the person soon deleted the tweet.
So that means we will probably get pictures soon if they went skiing! That's exciting!
Would it not be nice if the Royal Engagement of Prince Henry and Meghan would be announced tomorrow?
Then Royal Wedding plans could begin! :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9:
@LouisFerdinand - The media would have a field day! :happy17: Royal souvenir manufacturers would start taking orders! :wacko: Clarence House and Buckingham Palace staff would go into overdrive. :Jen: The fiances' families would be siege. :eyes: And there might be a few hearts broken :cry:... :nod: but many would also wish him and Meghan well. :cloud9:
I don't think Harry is ready to propose just yet. I think he will wait a while just to catch the media off guard and IMO I think he will pick a romantic spot possibly Africa like William but, It will take some major planning so the paparazzi have no idea they are together but I think it will be forthcoming this year at some point
Quote from: Trudie on January 03, 2017, 04:27:52 AM
I don't think Harry is ready to propose just yet. I think he will wait a while just to catch the media off guard and IMO I think he will pick a romantic spot possibly Africa like William but, It will take some major planning so the paparazzi have no idea they are together but I think it will be forthcoming this year at some point
And he probably wants to catch Meghan off guard too! Ya know, really shock and surprise her so that she does not suspect a thing!!
So it seems he didn't feel like spending New Year's Eve with her and we are still to see pictures of them ever again ... if we will ever ... this will end sooner then I thought ... like I said she is his transition girl ... his next SERIOUS girlfriend he won't be ashamed to be seen in public with will be a younger version of Cressida/ Flee ...
Quote from: Eri on January 03, 2017, 03:41:43 PM
So it seems he didn't feel like spending New Year's Eve with her and we are still to see pictures of them ever again ... if we will ever ... this will end sooner then I thought ... like I said she is his transition girl ... his next SERIOUS girlfriend he won't be ashamed to be seen in public with will be a younger version of Cressida/ Flee ...
What makes you think they weren't together on New Years? Isn't every couple...They were together on the 2nd so I'm sure they were the day before...You seem more bitter about his break ups than he is...He is over his exes and doesn't just date anyone long term.He dates to marry and if he doesn't like a girl she won't make it to a second month...He's always been that way.This just shows he is confident in knowing what he wants and judging by Meghan still being around,He wants her.
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Oh god! She insists on this nonsense!
If Harry was ashamed of Meghan why would he assume the romance ? And of course they are together somewhere, she disappeared from social networks, they just wants privacy.
Harry would never want a younger version of Cressida, if she's already an idiot imagine a younger version? It would be a totally stupid person :hehe: :hehe:
This is his strangest relationship yet and he is known to have weird relationships ... NOT one Twitter or Instagram sighting EVER of Harry and the love of his life ( :teehee:) ... if anyone claims they have been together this past two weeks or they are together they better provide proof or not say anything at all ... it's weird we have here the only two fans of this woman who is despised by her own sister and has the Internet turn on Harry ... peculiar ...
Quote from: Cat00 on January 03, 2017, 05:56:47 PM
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Oh god! She insists on this nonsense!
If Harry was ashamed of Meghan why would he assume the romance ? And of course they are together somewhere, she disappeared from social networks, they just wants privacy.
Harry would never want a younger version of Cressida, if she's already an idiot imagine a younger version? It would be a totally stupid person :hehe: :hehe:
She is going to see it her way regardless. It's pointless.
If he proposes, I am going to laugh my butt off and be very excited.
@Cat00 No just likes creating drama if Harry was so ashamed of Meghan putting out a statement to stop harassing her something so unprecedented really shows his lack of commitment to her. I totally believe she may be the one.
Gee Eri out of her family this is the only one who despises her it surely isn't jealousy now could it be?.
^ I don't create drama ... I am just expressing my opinion ... this is not a Megan fan site just like it was never a Cressida fan site and I lived with it ... some really need to learn to deal with a different opinion ... if you like Megan good for you just don't expect everyone else to feel like you do ...
I don't recall a statement by BOTH brothers on a specific lady before.How romantic would it be for a woman to be defended by her Prince boyfriend publicly WORLDWIDE with his Royal Monogram at the top of the letter just to add personalization to it?!? Of all the girls he seemed to be more "ashamed/embarrassed" of Cressida in Public if I'm honest although I'm sure their relationship was a honest one,He wasn't the one for her and she wasn't the one for him...It was a powerful statement wasn't it? ;)
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Eri,nothing is wrong with your opinion but the point is....If there was a CLEAR picture of Harry in TORONTO with Meghan you would swear he wasn't there or that he is ashamed to be around her...You are denying the obvious because you refuse to believe it...There is a difference.That's what makes your "opinion" seem dramatic...This forum isn't about attacking anyone and I know that but I'm just letting you know what you aren't realizing.
^ And what you don't realize is that I don't care where or with whom Harry is ... if stating there is no proof the man has seen your darling in the last two weeks then I guess I am being dramatic ... it might have looked to you like he was ashamed of Cressida but at least he was seen in public with Cressida during a Royal engagement come back at me when your darling tops that ... it's not my fault Harry didn't feel like seeing Megan these past two/three weeks and I don't get why her fan base that consists of you and two others are blaming me for it and calling me dramatic ... he spend 6 Days with her back before Christmas and then nothing it's not my fault ... don't compare his relationship with Cressida with this one because Megan would loose every time if we were to be childish ...
Harry wants to keep the relationship in complete privacy because he has serious intentions with her, he does not want to expose her so she will not be attacked, he wants to protect her, it just proves that he loves her..
Get ready for an engagement soon :hug: :hug:
^ He wants to protect her privacy by outing her publicly as his girlfriend? Like seriously? More like he uses her for we all know what and doesn't see her more than necessary ... she is already history if you ask me ... the man felt no need to spend the Holidays with her preferring to stay in London ... not even with his family in London with his friends ... Harry won't commit to anyone anytime soon and if you think otherwise I feel sorry for you ... she might have manipulated him into putting an ignorant statement out there but his attention spam is limited and he will move on to the next 20 something years old and won't spend any more time with a middle aged divorce and I say this as a 32 years old ...
Quote from: Cat00 on January 03, 2017, 07:20:14 PM
Harry wants to keep the relationship in complete privacy because he has serious intentions with her, he does not want to expose her so she will not be attacked, he wants to protect her, it just proves that he loves her..
Get ready for an engagement soon :hug: :hug:
I am hoping that by some miracle it happens while they are away now.
Lol fans said the same thing about his relationship with cress and she had him for 2 years. Then fans said he never looked happy with her. Same script with different lead
Quote from: michelle0187 on January 03, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
Lol fans said the same thing about his relationship with cress and she had him for 2 years. Then fans said he never looked happy with her. Same script with different lead
Harry is spending thousands of dollars monthly traveling back and forth across the pond to visit just another fling or lead as you put it? Harry pays for a bodyguard for just just another "lead" and out of his own pocket when she's in Britain? Harry issues an emotional statement defending a woman who's just another "lead"?
ah.... I don't think so!
Meghan is NOT just another girl! And she is most self accomplished successful woman he has ever dated according to news reports.
Adios!!
^ I think you need to modify your post, delete the quote and use an arrow.
Yale I agree with everything you just said.Harry's got a prize with this one and he knows it!
^^^
That's what some people have not understood yet. Meghan is not another silly girl, she's a hard-working woman, idealistic, mature,independent, has life experience ... She's all Harry needs.
^ Given that she is an actress just like Cressida and Flee I fail to see the difference between Megan and his other exes ... she used attention seeking dramatics and lawyers to get his attention as she was mad he wasn't being exclusive with her and was seeing another younger much more attractive girl ... an ignorant statement is all she is gonna get from Harry as she will be history soon ... no way this will last past Spring ...
But who's house do you think Harry will be staying in when he has The Invictus Games in September...If they aren't already engaged by then that is? That Burberry model was NOT more attractive than Meghan...He goes on dates with women and when he starts seeing a possible relationship he becomes exclusive.Meghan got her a Prince,let's not be hateful she was chosen over the choice you had for him.
I read somewhere too that Harry and Meghan already refer to each other as husband and wife lovingly around their close friends.
^^ I think Meghan is house-sitting at the moment for Jessica Mulroney. She is going to have to buy, or more likely lease, an apartment in Toronto for the future if she intends to continue working on the seventh season of Suits. I believe her old condo and the furniture in it was her ex's, Cory the chef, though she continued to live there for six months after they broke up. So, Meghan has some decisions to make over the New Year, I think. Short or long lease on another condo or apartment, another season of Suits, continue living in Toronto doing what she has been doing, or....?
I think the ball is in Harry's court. If he has told her he intends to marry her then the way is clear. If he hasn't and the relationship has gone cool since Xmas as some on Twitter and Tumblrs are now reporting, then the way is clear as well. If it's in limbo-land and Harry's refusing to commit one way or the other, then problems arise. Nobody seems to know where MM is. She has disappeared since the photos with her mum, been ultra-cautious with her Twitter, private IG over the last couple of weeks, but nobody knows whether she was in Norway with Harry or is still in Toronto house sitting or is somewhere else, since NYE.
I must admit I was surprised that Harry chose Verbier and Eugenie and Jack and other friends to see in the New Year but no MM. If you're in love, generally you choose to spend that evening together. I wouldn't say by any means that this romance is over because of that, it's just odd, that's all.
^ well said curryong
As times passes, people are now focusing on the fact that they don't live together and in different countries. Her past relationships were long distance, due to the fact that she needs to support herself. Harry doesn't need her, he wants or wanted her.
^ I'm confused,how do you know where Harry spent his New Year? I missed that article...Also I had NO idea Meghan didn't have a home in Toronto anymore...That is very interesting,so Harry has been visiting Jessica's home and not Meghan's...Well whatever she decides will be a huge next step and hopefully it's the right one.
^ It's all over the Tumblrs. Apparently Harry didn't ski, his back was too bad, just partied on NYE, watched the fireworks. He had been at Birkhall since Boxing Day. Apparently there are pictures of Verbier celebrations with Harry, Eugenie etc, though I haven't seen any yet. Harry visited MM in her old condo, which was Cory's. Jessica spent Xmas, New Year in Florids, so Meghan, who hasn't leased anything new for herself yet, house-sat for her during that period, and her mum visited.
^ tumblr usually expects things to go south around his vacation period because when he has more time on his hands, he spends it with his cousins and old friends who usually spend a lot of money traveling to hunt, club or ski in several countries. Mm supports herself with her acting work and still needs to rely on friends and exes, who still can't help her enough to keep up with him. I'm sure he knows that "prize" can only be by his side or even in the uk for months at a time, if he gets down on one knee. A lot of fans always said he needs someone in his blue blood circle to keep up with him, despite not wanting that.
I don't believe a word of this. I am not going to even debate it. It's totally ridiculous. Meghan not owning her own house etc... and it's true because it's on Tumblr?? Give me a break!
Harry is with Meghan. I bet ya!
Yeah,the things I have read on tumblr always turned out to be untrue...We should have proof soon though.Many tumblr accounts don't like Meghan just because she has Harry...I've read plenty of them to know not to believe them.
Shortly after Meghan and Cory the chef began dating she moved into his fully furnished apartment in Toronto, a perfectly natural thing to do, I think. She took over the lease of the condo after Cory moved out, again natural. They probably came to an arrangement about the furniture, as Cory was staying with friends then. The lease ended at the end of the year. So Meghan and her possessions, whatever furniture she has, moved out. Over Xmas and New Year, while she may very well be looking for a new place, she is staying at her friend Jessica Mulroney's place. Again, natural.
No-one is saying that the Harry-MM romance is finished except for several of the more rabid MM loathers who are speculating on it. They are speculating because Harry was seen at Verbier on NYE, and Eugenie and her boyfriend were there and several of Harry's friends, the Warrens etc, and MM was not seen there, by observers.
I said I thought it was odd and I still think so. However, one possible reason might have been because Meghan promised to look after Jessica Mulroney's house until she got back from Florida, which she now is.
I discount many of the lies and MM hatred on Twitter and Tumblrs but also follow many sources and read up on Toronto Star (a perfectly respectable Toronto paper) as well. No-one is saying that Harry and Meghan aren't together now, after New Years Day. No-one knows yet, however, apart from Harry, MM and his RPO.
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 04, 2017, 04:43:28 AM
Yeah,the things I have read on tumblr always turned out to be untrue...We should have proof soon though.Many tumblr accounts don't like Meghan just because she has Harry...I've read plenty of them to know not to believe them.
Thank you! Did you read my PM too?
Moving on....
Do you think Harry has met her parents already? Before they left on their trip, he may have met her then. Also, her father has said nothing and there is not a current picture online that I can find.
^ tumblr doesn't run the ig and twitter accounts of those who post sightings of him sans mm.
I'm sure he has spoken to her parents but they might not have met in person yet...I just find it weird he was confirmed spotted leaving london to Norway on January 2nd but was already in that area on New Years then decided to go back to London for a day until his next flight the very next day in the same area again?... It makes no sense at all unless he enjoys spending money for plane tickets like that.He was for sure seen by a staff member of the airline on the 2nd so I will believe that over a tumblr sighting unless a picture proves otherwise.I can't see Harry wasting money like that...
Harry was, according to observers who saw him, in Verbier overnight on New Years Eve, New Years Day. Switzerland is only a short flight away from London. If the sighting of him going to that place in northern Norway is correct that was a day or so later. All younger royals treat planes like ordinary people treat taxis. There's nothing extraordinary to them about a couple of air flights a week.
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 04, 2017, 05:40:53 AM
I'm sure he has spoken to her parents but they might not have met in person yet...I just find it weird he was confirmed spotted leaving london to Norway on January 2nd but was already in that area on New Years then decided to go back to London for a day until his next flight the very next day in the same area again?... It makes no sense at all unless he enjoys spending money for plane tickets like that.He was for sure seen by a staff member of the airline on the 2nd so I will believe that over a tumblr sighting unless a picture proves otherwise.I can't see Harry wasting money like that...
Are we sure it was London to Norway? I think he left London before the 2nd.
To know how this relationship will end you need to look at how it began ... he was seeing another woman ... she got angry used dramatics and lawyers to keep his attention something that begins like that can't end well ... it's also telling the amount of time Harry can tolerate to be around her ... no man in love if you ask me ... it might not be over as Harry won't give up a stable bed partner and risking looking even more idiotic than he looks but the FACT he WOULDN'T spend their first Holidays together as a couple with her and is still to be seen with her is telling of how he rally feels ... he might put a lot of ignorant statements out there but it's his actions that really count ... Megan 2 fans might not like it but it's January the 4th and Harry is still to show any will of being with her ... again ... not being hateful or dramatic just me stating FACTS ... he PREFERRED spending New Year's Eve and worse the Days that followed far away from her ...
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Quote from: LadyLenox on January 04, 2017, 05:40:53 AM
I'm sure he has spoken to her parents but they might not have met in person yet...I just find it weird he was confirmed spotted leaving london to Norway on January 2nd but was already in that area on New Years then decided to go back to London for a day until his next flight the very next day in the same area again?... It makes no sense at all unless he enjoys spending money for plane tickets like that.He was for sure seen by a staff member of the airline on the 2nd so I will believe that over a tumblr sighting unless a picture proves otherwise.I can't see Harry wasting money like that...
Are we sure it was London to Norway? I think he left London before the 2nd.
That's what I'm saying...Why would he leave London on New Years Eve then travel to Verbier then back home the next day just to get a London-Norway Flight...Just weird.
Veiber means distant blonde cousins in their 20's ... poor Megan ... he was shopping for his next REAL serious girlfriend ...
I would find it weird that they spend NYE separate if they are so in love. But then if we relying on Twitter spottings both Norway and Verbier are similar, though Norway sounds more credible, considering the person deleted his tweet. It may be that MM spent NYE in TO with her mom and then they met in Norway soon afterwards, but why not spend the NYE together? All speculation.
MM does not live in a condo. Here is her place (Meghan Markle Home Tour - Prince Harry's Girlfriend Meghan Markle (http://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/celebrity-homes/a7683/meghan-markle-home-tour/)) as you can see it is a house, pretty standard small Toronto house layout, with a backyard. The photos are taken from her IG and I've just checked her IG and she's been there for a while, I didn't go that far back, I am too impatient to wait for IG to load. Besides Harry has been photographed exiting her house, from a backstreet where her garage must be facing.
I've watched her interview with Larry King. Smart and sexy. She has a natural charm and I can see how a man would fall in love with her, shoot I could have been charmed by her.
Though... I am disappointed at how she got the Rwanda facts wrong and tried to fix it up, since she's been there and was on the show to talk about it. I knew it better than she did and I haven't been to Rwanda, though I had to Google to recheck whether my info was correct, it was.
I am always suspicious of celebs doing chairty work as it is hard to gauge whether it is for real or for PR. I usually don't give them the benefit of doubt, a celeb needs to be consistent through a long period of time for me to believe their commitment, like Angelina Jolie. So I have my doubts about MM and the timing. Feels too much like a rebranding, lifestyle, charity, foodie. Like she was rebranding for the next step of her career post-Suits. So the Rwanda bit and the info she gave was a bit disappointing, not deep and informative enough. Again, I already knew more than she's told. And she's posted a photo of her with the mountain gorillas but nothing from the genocide museum? ( If she did I will be happy to be corrected)
Ah new year and my doubts come back.
^ Usually celebs use those type of things for good PR Angelina became Mother Theresa after she destroyed America's sweetheart's marriage ... Megan is using it to make herself look like a good candidate to enter the Royal family ... nothing sincere about either woman ...
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 04, 2017, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: Yale on January 04, 2017, 06:07:05 AM
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 04, 2017, 05:40:53 AM
I'm sure he has spoken to her parents but they might not have met in person yet...I just find it weird he was confirmed spotted leaving london to Norway on January 2nd but was already in that area on New Years then decided to go back to London for a day until his next flight the very next day in the same area again?... It makes no sense at all unless he enjoys spending money for plane tickets like that.He was for sure seen by a staff member of the airline on the 2nd so I will believe that over a tumblr sighting unless a picture proves otherwise.I can't see Harry wasting money like that...
Are we sure it was London to Norway? I think he left London before the 2nd.
That's what I'm saying...Why would he leave London on New Years Eve then travel to Verbier then back home the next day just to get a London-Norway Flight...Just weird.
I gotcha. It's fun to speculate. We'll find out soon enough. Meghan is going to India on the 20 I understand?
Lol lol lol There are people who believe in anything! Who ensure that Harry spent the New Year with cousin and friends ?? I'm sure he's with Meghan, unfounded gossip from TUMBLR, I do not care
Quote from: Cat00 on January 04, 2017, 04:40:22 PM
Lol lol lol There are people who believe in anything! Who ensure that Harry spent the New Year with cousin and friends ?? I'm sure he's with Meghan, unfounded gossip from TUMBLR, I do not care
I wonder where they went? Norway could have been a detour flight for someplace warm.
It has to be very innocent to believe in gossip without proof of Tumblr, twitter ... to begin with, most who write there are envious and bitter people who are against the relationship. Meghan has not posted anything on social networks for 3 weeks, this to me is the real proof that she's with Harry and firmer than ever.
For me they are in a hot place, Meghan has several photos on the Instagram of trips to hot places, sun, beach, sea ... she seems to like it very much :nod:
Prince Harry has met his girlfriend Meghan Markle's father | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4084948/Meghan-Markle-s-brother-says-sister-love-claims-father-MET-Prince-Harry.html)
Don't agree with the leaks but there ya go!
^^^
Some celebrities can do charity to appear, but Meghan is different because she is biracial and feels the prejudice since she was born, it is natural that she wants to help people in Africa, I see nothing of opportunism or falsehood in her attitude.
Funny that some people believe that they are no longer together, this is ridiculous. Harry never spent little time with any girlfriend, even the bored' Cressida, which he didn't like and had no chemistry, he stayed 2 years, because with Meghan, would be different ?? If 1 month ago he assumed he was dating her and defended her by buying a fight with the press, why would he end the relationship so fast? Give a break!
Isn't the Telegraph a reputable newspaper in Britain?
Meet the in-laws: Prince Harry introduced to Meghan Markle's father (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/04/meet-in-laws-prince-harry-introduced-meghan-markles-father/)
It doesn't matter if it's broadsheet or tabloid, it's an interview of her brother speaking of something that happened 6 months ago.
The Windsor's must be cringing. And Harry really needs to ask her to stop the family from talking to the press. Meghan's brother sounds desperate for an engagement announcement, quite embarrassing to the royal family.
Check how all official engagements have been carried out with a press call, 10 days later the Queen's notice, etc. no siblings speak before to any members of the Royal press pack.
It's quite mean of course of these Royal reporters to publish her brother's interview, both sides Chav tastic. 😱
I'm doubting about her intentions now, IF she knew about this interview, she should have stopped it by hitting the brakes fast. She won't last nor be a good princess if this is happening before a marriage announcement. No shaik in this instance to have loose lips a la Sophie.
Well her brother told that to DM. If we say it is true, that would mean PH met her father met in June. I am suspicious about whether MM dumped her boyfriend upon PH showing interest in her. Then she's called Piers Morgan to meet with him in June and mentioned how she was recently single, it sounds like a setup by her to clear her tracks of any overlapping. Also the letter KP put out specified they were dating for a few months. Why specify that? My gossip-loving nose smells something funny.
Hey look what I've found:
Prince Harry's new girlfriend was still dating Canadian chef when they reportedly first met in Toronto | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/prince-harrys-new-girlfriend-was-still-dating-canadian-chef-when-they-reportedly-first-met-in-toronto)
Wannable I have to say I agree. Her family keeps on talking to media, she needs to put a stop to that!
Also all her contacts say what a great princess she'll make, how "classy" she is (who calls someone classy?).
Quote from: wannable on January 04, 2017, 10:18:35 PM
It doesn't matter if it's broadsheet or tabloid, it's an interview of her brother speaking of something that happened 6 months ago.
The Windsor's must be cringing. And Harry really needs to ask her to stop the family from talking to the press. Meghan's brother sounds desperate for an engagement announcement, quite embarrassing to the royal family.
Check how all official engagements have been carried out with a press call, 10 days later the Queen's notice, etc. no siblings speak before to any members of the Royal press pack.
It's quite mean of course of these Royal reporters to publish her brother's interview, both sides Chav tastic. 😱
I'm doubting about her intentions now, IF she knew about this interview, she should have stopped it by hitting the brakes fast. She won't last nor be a good princess if this is happening before a marriage announcement. No shaik in this instance to have loose lips a la Sophie.
Will you quit trying blame this girl for everything? Good Lord!!! One of Kate's relatives did the same thing while she was engaged to William. And if you doubting her intentions, so what? This isn't the first interview her brother has given and Harry is still with her. And it's what HE THINKS that matters!!!
How do you know she hasn't talked to her brother and what if he is still going against her wishes? Geez!!
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Quote from: psm on January 04, 2017, 10:53:05 PM
Well her brother told that to DM. If we say it is true, that would mean PH met her father met in June. I am suspicious about whether MM dumped her boyfriend upon PH showing interest in her. Then she's called Piers Morgan to meet with him in June and mentioned how she was recently single, it sounds like a setup by her to clear her tracks of any overlapping. Also the letter KP put out specified they were dating for a few months. Why specify that? My gossip-loving nose smells something funny.
Hey look what I've found:
Prince Harry's new girlfriend was still dating Canadian chef when they reportedly first met in Toronto | National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/prince-harrys-new-girlfriend-was-still-dating-canadian-chef-when-they-reportedly-first-met-in-toronto)
Wannable I have to say I agree. Her family keeps on talking to media, she needs to put a stop to that!
Also all her contacts say what a great princess she'll make, how "classy" she is (who calls someone classy?).
This is not news. I understand that Harry pursued her while she was still dating this Chef technically. . Harry wanted her went after her and he got her. Harry is a Prince but he's also human and a man.
Sophie may have had "loose lips" but she is one of the Queens closest family members and favorite daughter in laws sooooo? Really doesn't matter.Obviously her and her Ex were having issues and they broke up and Harry wouldn't stop bothering her until she agreed to date...He got the date and the girl so why is her Ex still being brought up...?
There is a feud among various members of the Markle family, that's clear. The only person who has said anything bad about MM was Samantha Markle early on and she then denied it. The brother and his family are annoying though basically all they have are a few very old photos and a pane of praise for Meghan. The DM as always is digging for dirt but hasn't got any so far from the brother.
However, the DM are probably satisfied that an impression has been created with the British public of Meghan's family as a hillbilly type clan (her half-brother's) who have hit pay dirt. I don't think the half brother's family has seen Meghan for about two decades, judging by their photo collection. My own opinion is that her father (who has never spoken to the media) has not yet met Harry. He seems to spend a lot of time down in Mexico, and the times Harry has been in the US/Canada have not coincided. Meghan's mother's never spoken nor has her side of the family.
The romantic timetable for Harry/Meghan's first meeting is very cloudy. At the beginning of it I was reading the Toronto Globe, a city daily newspaper. It's not a gossip rag by any means, but a little item there spoke about a popular and well known chef ruefully telling friends at the beginning of June that he and his girlfriend had split a few weeks before. Now this was shortly after Camilla Tominey's story and the DM and other tabs hadn't then really begun their onslaught. I think that item was about Corey and Meghan.
The question there becomes what broke them up. Twitter and many Tumblr sites of course have it that she was with Cory at the Trudeaus for dinner, when Harry in Toronto for PR for the IG in May, was guest of honour. They have it that MM slipped Harry her phone number under the guise of helping publicise the Games and Harry began incessantly texting her. On the other hand, others have it that MM was in Mexico in early May with her boyfriend and father and didn't meet Harry at all at that time, but later.
The truth is somewhere in there in May. However, MM and Harry were seen together in England at a Soho House evening in June. Around that time MM was in England, met Piers M etc, so they were certainly an item by June. I think it hotted up in July before Harry went to Africa and I'm inclined to believe the persistent rumours that he and she met in LA for a few days then.
No-one knows where Harry and MM are at the moment and until photos appear or one or the other of them resurfaces, we are in the dark. Might be in a remote hideaway enjoying the Northern Lights, might be somewhere warmer.
I think it's entirely possible that Harry has met Tom Markle. He very well could have run into Harry while visiting his daughter. And he may have met her mother we just don't know and we may not for some time.
He has more likely met with her mother but her estranged father might not have. I know Samantha has recently changed her tune and supports the relationship, so if she says it's a lie then I will believe that more so than the rest. Imo It's not a big deal though and doesn't change much.
Meghan is not estranged from her father...? Samantha is...Samantha is just retaliating because of that last DM article where everyone called her a liar and hated her...I will never believe anything she says,Meghan doesn't even talk to her.
Her family is making the Climbers look classy ... Ma Climber must be loving every minute of this ... I own her an apology ...
Taking a screen shot of this right now
@Eri !!!^^^ :P :teehee:
Promise not to haunt you as the "Ghost of Posts Past!" :lol:
^ This is where we are right now ... MA Climbers looking classy ... it's mind blowing PRINCE Harry can't pull anything better than a middle aged divorce with a big mouth family ... karma ...
Meghan wasn't old until she started dating a Prince in her age group then it was an issue...Kate is 35 in less than a week and gets praise...It's not really her age for you Eri is it? She is a great fit for the family and if I'm being honest maybe too good for Harry...She is the total package and I hope she sticks around.
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 06, 2017, 02:20:39 AM
Meghan wasn't old until she started dating a Prince in her age group then it was an issue...Kate is 35 in less than a week and gets praise...It's not really her age for you Eri is it? She is a great fit for the family and if I'm being honest maybe too good for Harry...She is the total package and I hope she sticks around.
I wonder where they are though. And I bet he has met her father and her mother.
Once 6 months ago and throughout the time, he hasn't done the same. No wonder he prefers to vacation sans her with friends like inge in Norway, at the moment. Bavaria and wherever he spent nye. This long distance relationship gets more distant by the week.
A person say Meghan is old can only be envious. First that 35 years is not old and second, she appears to be much younger. She looks younger than Kate, Pippa, Cressida ... that's the advantage of brown skin. :P
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Quote from: michelle0187 on January 06, 2017, 04:48:38 AM
Once 6 months ago and throughout the time, he hasn't done the same. No wonder he prefers to vacation sans her with friends like inge in Norway, at the moment. Bavaria and wherever he spent nye. This long distance relationship gets more distant by the week.
And who said they are not together? She has not posted on social networks for 3 weeks, no photographer has registered any pictures of her in the last few days, it's OBVIOUS that she and Harry are together!
^ her lack of posting activity on her ig in 3 weeks and posting more on her friends ig, debunks your theory. Just let go off him spending nye with folks spotted with him that don't have the initials MM, and same with him right now in norway with inge. Please don't take it personally
They are definitely still together...She really does look young and she has had NO plastic surgery it's obvious...She works out and uses facial creams.My husband thought she was 23 but I think she looks 28...When I heard she was 30 I had to literally check every source.I still don't believe it...She looks great!
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 06, 2017, 04:40:30 PM
They are definitely still together...She really does look young and she has had NO plastic surgery it's obvious...She works out and uses facial creams.My husband thought she was 23 but I think she looks 28...When I heard she was 30 I had to literally check every source.I still don't believe it...She looks great!
I wonder when they'll return from their vacation?
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 06, 2017, 04:40:30 PM
They are definitely still together...She really does look young and she has had NO plastic surgery it's obvious...She works out and uses facial creams.My husband thought she was 23 but I think she looks 28...When I heard she was 30 I had to literally check every source.I still don't believe it...She looks great!
Sorry,I meant 35 lol...
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Quote from: Yale on January 06, 2017, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 06, 2017, 04:40:30 PM
They are definitely still together...She really does look young and she has had NO plastic surgery it's obvious...She works out and uses facial creams.My husband thought she was 23 but I think she looks 28...When I heard she was 30 I had to literally check every source.I still don't believe it...She looks great!
I wonder when they'll return from their vacation?
He probably doesn't want to let her go since she is leaving for India in 2 weeks FOR 2 weeks lol...Maybe never,he might go to India with her ;)
Well, he is extremely over protective of her I understand so that would not surprise me especially with all the terrible stuff happening around the world.
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I just heard or read that Harry has gone on a posting frenzy on Instagram posting photos all at once. So, I think they are back!!
"They"? Nice lol
I hope "they" as in inge and h had a great time in norway.
Yeah I just checked too! Wonder if they are going back to London together to spend more time there?!? I want a picture!!!!!!
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The sun has a new article about Harry and Meghan!!! Will link it ASAP!!!
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Prince Harry whisked girlfriend Meghan Markle off on first holiday together to see the Northern Lights (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2554966/prince-harry-whisked-girlfriend-meghan-markle-off-on-first-holiday-together-to-see-the-northern-lights/)
Just logged onto Twitter to find this!
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Awe...Eri,Michelle,where are you? Let's chat?
I hope Harry and Meghan are together in Finland and have had a ball. I go on Twitter and lurk on Tumblrs, blogs etc for a while.
Apparently opinion is divided as to whether they're together, skiing and seeing the Northern Lights or whether H is having a boy's own adventure type holiday with his friend Inge, while Meghan is with her mother in LA. No photos of her there have emerged however.
No-one knows, and chief among those who are determined to state that the couple are not together and have in fact broken up are two US based Twitter sites. One is run by a New York publicist on holiday in the Bahamas at the moment (and what she would know about H's comings and goings I have no idea. Does she have second sight?)
The other is a very small site run by a Southerner, 13 followers or something, who feeds the New York gal info which may or may not be true, though personally I really doubt her veracity. (Might even be the same person as the New Yorker.) She was one of those who stated that MM was in St Lucia with the Warrens when Harry was on his tour there and they met up. No proof whatsoever, no photos, nothing.
They both state that Harry and Meghan are through, having had a quarrel about photos being taken at Arthur Landon's house. Again no proof, and I have to say that Arthur Landon's friendship with H has cooled down considerably since the Necker days when Arthur put an inappropriate photo of a drunk and sleeping person, undoubtedly H, online.
If, in the next weeks Meghan and Harry turn up together in London or Toronto, I would say that at least two people will have lost credibility with their followers for ever. If not and they have split, then the Sun will look stupid. However, although tabloids are often inaccurate, we don't know what info the Sun has that has caused this article about Harry, MM and the Northern Lights, so I wouldn't write this couple off yet. Just an observation. On Twitter and on Tumblr you can write whatever you like and hide behind 'anonymous' and pseudonyms.
It all fits! I posted before the story went out that someone on another said that twitter person saw Harry on their Norwegian flight....
And someone here said no he was in NY without Meghan, that Meghan had lost her home etc and that she was house sitting for some chick etc. That Harry also had back problems? As I said before totally ridiculous!!
Now look what happened:
Prince Harry whisked girlfriend Meghan Markle off on first holiday together to see the Northern Lights (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2554966/prince-harry-whisked-girlfriend-meghan-markle-off-on-first-holiday-together-to-see-the-northern-lights/)
Well!! She sneaked into London New Year's Eve and brought in 2017 with Harry! Just as I suspected!! They are even talking marriage which I also believe!
^
Together in a isolated cabin ... how romantic! :hug: :hug: :wub: :wub:
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 06, 2017, 09:42:34 PM
Yeah I just checked too! Wonder if they are going back to London together to spend more time there?!? I want a picture!!!!!!
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The sun has a new article about Harry and Meghan!!! Will link it ASAP!!!
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Prince Harry whisked girlfriend Meghan Markle off on first holiday together to see the Northern Lights (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2554966/prince-harry-whisked-girlfriend-meghan-markle-off-on-first-holiday-together-to-see-the-northern-lights/)
Just logged onto Twitter to find this!
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Awe...Eri,Michelle,where are you? Let's chat?
Okay let's talk about this first
tumblr_oj5vaw8OYm1u4wctgo1_r3_1280 ? Postimage.org (https://postimg.org/image/syuserqwh/bb25459d/)
Now tell me what you think this means. Do you think mm was hiding in one of his suitcases or she wasn't there? Was she posting on the tig in the cabins.?
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I was the first one to see the tweet ...Either they had separate seats or they flew separately...Simple as that.We'll get a picture soon,don't worry.
This relationship is comparable to one on the Bachelor. They enjoy romantic getaways and are completely isolated from the real world so they don't have to deal with anything.
But when they are forced to have to go into the real world, the relationship will crumble because this isn't life. Harry is a public person and she is a D list actress that was barely known in a celebrity obsessed America, and now she is being followed in very quiet Toronto where celebs don't get followed around. I feel sorry for them because they are living in lala land. Chelsy moved to London and couldn't deal with the paps after a while, and Cressida is British and couldn't deal with the paps.
The best hope for the relationship is her moving to London, and really see what it's like before she goes deeper into this. This is not going to end well in the long term.
:no:
^ she needs the mula to move, afford to eat as those expensive restaurant his circle goes to and keep up with his multi millionaire aristo close friends constantly vacationing. No wonder her fans want a marriage as soon as possible. This is why he doesn't go out with girls outside of that set. He needs a woman who won't depend on him like that. It's only matter of time he will date on his rich mates sisters or bffs of his close female friends. I understand why some people root for her because they want to think he not an elitist anymore.
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 07, 2017, 12:59:32 PM
I was the first one to see the tweet ...Either they had separate seats or they flew separately...Simple as that.We'll get a picture soon,don't worry.
You need to worry about finding excuses because it looks like all your gonna get from this ridiculous rumor.
^ :thumbsup:
I agree. Harry needs to date someone within his inner circle or at least someone who is British that will understand the pressures that they will be under in the UK.
As a North American myself, I am keenly aware that I have no idea what it's like to be part of the royal family and Meghan even less so. She's American and of late, Americans have become obsessed with the royal family because of Kate but they don't know what it entails to be part of it like the British do: The responsibilities, the media attention and scrutiny.
Meghan is living in a fantasy world and completely blinded by this whirl-world romance, and she wants to be taken care of too. :windsor1:
Meghan best friends are from London though and she is half European? ...Not to mention goes to the UK often,I'm sure she knows her way around...
^ No, she is not. And you are completely missing the point.
She has more to lose than any other serious gf he has ever had. Rep and money. It's almost too easy for him to drop her like a bar of soap. Miss right now can hardly afford to be around long enough. The sex scenes in her films and tv shows will be humiliating and not just to harry but his family as well, who she has yet to meet. What is gonna happen if they fight and he needs some space. he will turn on the TV and see her making out with men naked in bed. I've never seen any Royal that's cool with that and feel the need to marry, so she can't continue embarrassing him and his family.
Quote from: michelle0187 on January 07, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 06, 2017, 09:42:34 PM
Yeah I just checked too! Wonder if they are going back to London together to spend more time there?!? I want a picture!!!!!!
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The sun has a new article about Harry and Meghan!!! Will link it ASAP!!!
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Prince Harry whisked girlfriend Meghan Markle off on first holiday together to see the Northern Lights (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2554966/prince-harry-whisked-girlfriend-meghan-markle-off-on-first-holiday-together-to-see-the-northern-lights/)
Just logged onto Twitter to find this!
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Awe...Eri,Michelle,where are you? Let's chat?
Okay let's talk about this first
tumblr_oj5vaw8OYm1u4wctgo1_r3_1280 ? Postimage.org (https://postimg.org/image/syuserqwh/bb25459d/)
Now tell me what you think this means. Do you think mm was hiding in one of his suitcases or she wasn't there? Was she posting on the tig in the cabins.?
IMHO, it means the man's bucket list was to meet royalty, as was posted. His bucket list wasn't to meet travellers accompanying royalty, eg RPO, friend or acquaintance of royalty.
It may be that the person who tweeted did not recognize MM, I am not sure I would recognize her if I saw her on the street. Besides not everyone is following royal gossip. This affair became big news in Canada because she lives in Toronto so there is a connection, yet most people would only be able to say PH is dating an actress living in Toronto and would not be able to name her or know what she looks like.
I agree with people who commented above. This is so far a vacation-relationship and while the media are pushing for a quick engagement I hope they don't rush in as what the future as a minor royal bride holds for MM is vastly different than her current life. She will enter a fish bowl and will always be compared negatively against Kate, not initially of course, but in the long run. She will not be able to do more than the Cambridges. She will have to stop talking about anything political. Her style will need to adjust and they won't even be able to vacation together as easily, look how much criticism the royal incur whenever they vacation. They live under a microscope.
However I suspect MM has a very rosy view on this. My impression of her, based on her friend set and name dropping, is that she is excellent at networking with the right people and social-climbing. How does a D-lister become friends with PM's wife and a former PM's daughter-in-law? How did she manage to meet and hook up with a British prince? So PH is not just a love interest, but a huge step for her. Besides what does the future really hold for her after Suits? Not much. Unless she's invested very wisely and saved like crazy, will she have enough money to sustain her lifestyle? By marrying into the BRF she will be set for life.
But then again, if they break up she will be fine, actually more than fine. I think she wants to be a life style guru. For that you need name recognition, which she now has. There are big bucks there. And I've briefly checked The Tig, so I cannot comment on the content, but the design is beautiful and very professional. Her photos on Instagram and her house, her style all indicate that she has great taste. She would be successful in that area and it may be something preferable to marrying into royalty.
[edited]I don't know what's on Tumblr because I could not open the link but it does not matter, they may have traveled separately not to draw attention. It is obvious that they are together in Norway. she does not publish anything else in instagram nor does it erase negative comments . And why would they end? Being that Harry seemed super happy with her that day in the theater. And what's wrong with her having sex scenes in movies? She's an actress, even consecrated Hollywood actresses have made sex scenes, We are in the 21st century, not in 1950. Meghan is the right woman for Harry. She is intelligent, has life experience, will know how to deal with the press, because she already lives in the middle, works with philanthropy, is charismatic ... Let them be happy !!
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She does not have to fear in being compared to Kate, she will totally outshine Kate because she has much more personality and charisma. What will she lose? She has already admitted that the acting career is unstable and that it is difficult for her to get good roles for being biracial. She loves to do philanthropy and she can continue. She is already accustomed to living in the light of the spotlight, will handle everything, press, photographers , she is leonine, strong, will not let down by criticism.I'm sure the relationship is firm and bet on an engagement announcement soon
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Quote from: LadyLenox on January 06, 2017, 09:42:34 PM
Yeah I just checked too! Wonder if they are going back to London together to spend more time there?!? I want a picture!!!!!!
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The sun has a new article about Harry and Meghan!!! Will link it ASAP!!!
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Prince Harry whisked girlfriend Meghan Markle off on first holiday together to see the Northern Lights (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2554966/prince-harry-whisked-girlfriend-meghan-markle-off-on-first-holiday-together-to-see-the-northern-lights/)
Just logged onto Twitter to find this!
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Awe...Eri,Michelle,where are you? Let's chat?
Okay let's talk about this first
tumblr_oj5vaw8OYm1u4wctgo1_r3_1280 ? Postimage.org (https://postimg.org/image/syuserqwh/bb25459d/)
Now tell me what you think this means. Do you think mm was hiding in one of his suitcases or she wasn't there? Was she posting on the tig in the cabins.?
IMHO, it means the man's bucket list was to meet royalty, as was posted. His bucket list wasn't to meet travellers accompanying royalty, eg RPO, friend or acquaintance of royalty.
Lol the man didn't even mention seeing a woman with him. Did she take another flight when the entire airport was empty so no one saw her too?
All this reminds me of the time cress fans swore they had unfinished business with him when she showed up to his bday. How can an ex get an invite to at least one of his bdays but not mm. Unlike meh, his two exes are followed by him on ig and that model the dm claimed he slept with after the ig event. Do you want to believe the dm was right about that one. Debating about why you think mm was there is exactly like the time debate over whether cress was at kp after the bday party in 2015.
The PM's wife, use to be an entertainment reporter, among other things. She was a regular reporter on a show that MM has also appeared on, however I'm not saying that is how they met. Just want to point out that There are simple possibilities to meet and network with people if one is interested. I am not in the entertainment industry, however, my hair dresser has a lot of high profile clients that I have randomly run into and had casual conversations with. If I was interested in the entertainment world, there are opportunities to be found.
The former PM's daughter-in-law is also a stylist, she appears frequently on a local TO television station that MM has also appeared on. The stylist has also worked with the current PM's wife. Again, opportunities can arise to network with people if you really want to and the other person is interested.
Lol lol lol I have fun with certain comments here. I'm going to have a lot more fun when Harry marries her, some people will sink into envy :lol: :lol:
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Yeah I just checked too! Wonder if they are going back to London together to spend more time there?!? I want a picture!!!!!!
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The sun has a new article about Harry and Meghan!!! Will link it ASAP!!!
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Prince Harry whisked girlfriend Meghan Markle off on first holiday together to see the Northern Lights (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2554966/prince-harry-whisked-girlfriend-meghan-markle-off-on-first-holiday-together-to-see-the-northern-lights/)
Just logged onto Twitter to find this!
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Awe...Eri,Michelle,where are you? Let's chat?
Okay let's talk about this first
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Now tell me what you think this means. Do you think mm was hiding in one of his suitcases or she wasn't there? Was she posting on the tig in the cabins.?
IMHO, it means the man's bucket list was to meet royalty, as was posted. His bucket list wasn't to meet travellers accompanying royalty, eg RPO, friend or acquaintance of royalty.
Lol the man didn't even mention seeing a woman with him. Did she take another flight when the entire airport was empty so no one saw her too?
All this reminds me of the time cress fans swore they had unfinished business with him when she showed up to his bday. How can an ex get an invite to at least one of his bdays but not mm. Unlike meh, his two exes are followed by him on ig and that model the dm claimed he slept with after the ig event. Do you want to believe the dm was right about that one. Debating about why you think mm was there is exactly like the time debate over whether cress was at kp after the bday party in 2015.
The man did not say that he saw H protection officer either, are you assuming he traveled by himself without security? Maybe MM wasn't there when the airport worker saw H. Or even if MM was there why would he have to mention it, she's not royalty. I have a favourite Olympic athlete that I had the opportunity to take a picture with. The athlete was with her coach, I didn't ask for a picture with the coach even though the coach was standing right there. No disrespect, my interest was in the athlete, not the coach.
Quote from: Cat00 on January 07, 2017, 03:06:41 PM
Lol lol lol I have fun with certain comments here. I'm going to have a lot more fun when Harry marries her, some people will sink into envy :lol: :lol:
And going to laugh my ass off too when he does marry her!! And I am going to rub it in and say I do you so!!
@michelle0187 Your problem is not with Meghan, [edited]
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I am not a moderator but the personal attacks are rather bothering. Can't we discuss in a civil manner without making assumptions about what fellow posters think and why?
Lady Deb - thanks for the clarification. I knew Sophie Trudeau worked in showbiz but I assumed that was a long time ago so she wouldn't have any connections. Didn't know about Mulroney's daugher-in-law.
I have a bias against people who are crazy networkers as I've met a few in my life and while they are sweet and super friendly with those whom they think will further their careers and status, they are pretty terrible to others. All would also gossip behind everyone, so I am filled with horrible impressions, and I am clearly reflecting that bias towards Meghan. Her contacts and name droppings are very out there.
Again I am of two minds about how I feel about her. On one hand I like her a lot, on the other I am suspicious of her motives and am afraid PH may be taken advantage of.
As someone around the same age as these two, I would advise caution in their next steps. Yes, people know what they want in 30's but relationships are still hard to navigate, especially when living in different countries and when the said relationship comes with such life altering changes.
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Quote from: psm on January 07, 2017, 06:09:28 PM
I am not a moderator but the personal attacks are rather bothering. Can't we discuss in a civil manner without making assumptions about what fellow posters think and why?
Lady Deb - thanks for the clarification. I knew Sophie Trudeau worked in showbiz but I assumed that was a long time ago so she wouldn't have any connections. Didn't know about Mulroney's daugher-in-law.
I have a bias against people who are crazy networkers as I've met a few in my life and while they are sweet and super friendly with those whom they think will further their careers and status, they are pretty terrible to others. All would also gossip behind everyone, so I am filled with horrible impressions, and I am clearly reflecting that bias towards Meghan. Her contacts and name droppings are very out there.
Again I am of two minds about how I feel about her. On one hand I like her a lot, on the other I am suspicious of her motives and am afraid PH may be taken advantage of.
As someone around the same age as these two, I would advise caution in their next steps. Yes, people know what they want in 30's but relationships are still hard to navigate, especially when living in different countries and when the said relationship comes with such life altering changes.
What motives?? Prince Harry is the one who pursued her!!! He went after her until she gave in and agreed to date him and them a month or so later it became serious.
Of course none of us knows how they met or became a couple. There are multiple stories and we may believe whichever one we prefer or take all with a grain of salt until one of the parties tell us the details, even then some will not believe the "official" version of events since both princes hate to reveal details of their lives and prefer to tell different stories.
As it is, since this is a relationship which both parties entered with their free wills, I wonder what motivates MM as I perceive her to be an ambitious person and from what I know of the celebrities, they tend to be quite thirsty for attention and tend to have big egos.
You may disagree, but please note that yours is as much an opinion as mine is.
^ These types of people will never understand anything...There will be a wedding and the next day they will already speculate divorce...It's the pain of someone having something you want...We are happy for Harry because we are not in love with him...Anyway,I hope we get a wedding late this year :)
Excuse me, what type of people?
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 07, 2017, 07:55:22 PM
^ These types of people will never understand anything...There will be a wedding and the next day they will already speculate divorce...It's the pain of someone having something you want...We are happy for Harry because we are not in love with him...Anyway,I hope we get a wedding late this year :)
That's what I said. Some people don't accept any girlfriends from harry because they wanted to be with him.
If tomorrow they would finish and Harry get another girlfriend, they would surely put thousands of defects in her and it will never end
Was it spikeymau5 culling his instagram followers that led to hubris or something else? Anyone else follow tumblr and seen the latest and know what I'm talking about?
'I got 99 problems but getting hitched ain't one' - someone should send that song to Harry. With the amended lyrics. I don't see any wedding bells in anyone's future.
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Sorry, but I didn't understand almost anything you wrote :hehe: :hehe:
That's good Cat00 it should all become startlingly clear in the coming weeks. Don't sweat it.
Seeing the Northern Lights together would have been a lovely background for Prince Henry to propose.
:fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :lovestars: :lovestars: :lovestars:
They haven't dated for a year yet so I don't understand all the negativity being generated toward this relationship. At the moment they are due to Harry's statement in a relationship and it appears from the photos taken in London they are in a loving one. If Harry wants to marry her So what if she has some romantic scenes in her show?. The RF lowered the bar allowing Charles to marry the mistress who we know he wanted to be her tampon seriously?. This is 2017 not 1985 so if Harry is in love with her I don't see why permission wouldn't be granted.
@Trudie-I agree that it is sad to see so much negativity about a new relationship. :( Good luck to them both.
I think the fact that MM is a celebrity and there is so much information about her available affected the pace at which people formed an opinion on her. Had she been a regular person, we would have waited until we knew more about her. But we already know more about her than we've known about Chelsy in the seven years she's been with Harry. And a lot of the information is coming directly from her, through her interviews and social media posts.
On top of that, the way the relationship is disclosed and how they went from seeing each other to about to get married within one week, everyone's analyzing her as a potential princess, not just a girlfriend, which means the expectations are much higher.
I am going between being positive and negative about this relationship. Today I am more negative, I think it depends on my mood :)
This is just in: Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle forced to postpone charity trip amid security fears - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harrys-girlfriend-meghan-markle-9582411)
I don't know, is MM abandoning her commitments to be available for PH, a la Kate? Yes, sure her profile rose, but there are much bigger celebrities who manage to travel for charity purposes.
Great post
@psm.
I have ambivalent emotions towards this match as I'm team Chelsy due to how they looked when they were together. Chelsy never courted the press, never complained she just got on with dating the man she loved.
Tumblr rumour is that it's already splitsville.
I do agree that people are being negative about the relationship. However, this is just the beginning for her, so she has to think carefully about where she is going with this. The comments here are tame compared to other ones that I have read, in particular in the Daily Mail about her. People feel entitled to voice the opinions and rightfully so if they are part of the "royal family" of your country. There are lots of sacrifices and pressures. Like I have said, this relationship seems like the bachelor show. Not realy life and when they are in the real world, they will have to deal with it and it will put pressure on their relationship. She is fair game and so is he.
Quote from: Cat00 on January 07, 2017, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: LadyLenox on January 07, 2017, 07:55:22 PM
^ These types of people will never understand anything...There will be a wedding and the next day they will already speculate divorce...It's the pain of someone having something you want...We are happy for Harry because we are not in love with him...Anyway,I hope we get a wedding late this year :)
That's what I said. Some people don't accept any girlfriends from harry because they wanted to be with him.
If tomorrow they would finish and Harry get another girlfriend, they would surely put thousands of defects in her and it will never end
Bingo! Exactly!
^^^There have been high security alert warnings issued for Westerners who are thinking of travelling in certain areas of India. These were given by western governments, including the UK and the US, at the end of December 2016. It was probably this that has interfered with MM's trip to India rather than any wish to endlessly wait around as Kate did. Her trip has been postponed not cancelled.
Smartraveller.gov.au - India (http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/asia/south/pages/india.aspx)
Those that are so negative are so because she is American born and raised and because she is biracial. Well, I am excited because she is all of those things!! Otherwise, I wouldn't care. It's different, it's fresh and if a marriage happens, she will renew interest in that family again, the kind that existed when Harry's mother was alive.
I am so glad Harry is as strong willed as he is. He doesn't care what anyone thinks. He made that fact perfectly clear in his KP statement and if Harry knew about this forum and saw the comments from some, he still would not care!
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Quote from: Curryong on January 07, 2017, 11:34:42 PM
^^^There have been high security alert warnings issued for Westerners who are thinking of travelling in certain areas of India. These were given by western governments, including the UK and the US, at the end of December 2016. It was probably this that has interfered with MM's trip to India rather than any wish to endlessly wait around as Kate did. Her trip has been postponed not cancelled.
Smartraveller.gov.au - India (http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/asia/south/pages/india.aspx)
Harry needs to talk her out of going period!! It's too dangerous! He is a military guy and she needs to listen!!
Quote from: Minerva on January 07, 2017, 11:01:45 PM
Great post @psm.
I have ambivalent emotions towards this match as I'm team Chelsy due to how they looked when they were together. Chelsy never courted the press, never complained she just got on with dating the man she loved.
Tumblr rumour is that it's already splitsville.
Chelsy was a rich, spoiled girl who always had everything at her fingertips. She has never suffered prejudice or discrimination, can not compare her to Meghan
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Quote from: Maria5583 on January 07, 2017, 11:11:45 PM
I do agree that people are being negative about the relationship. However, this is just the beginning for her, so she has to think carefully about where she is going with this. The comments here are tame compared to other ones that I have read, in particular in the Daily Mail about her. People feel entitled to voice the opinions and rightfully so if they are part of the "royal family" of your country. There are lots of sacrifices and pressures. Like I have said, this relationship seems like the bachelor show. Not realy life and when they are in the real world, they will have to deal with it and it will put pressure on their relationship. She is fair game and so is he.
There is no credibility in the DM comments, most are bitter people who discharge their frustrations there. They speak badly of everybody, it's not just Meghan. Recently, I read horrible comments there about George Clooney's wife
Not buying the security alert. The US government has no alerts with regards to India. Canada has one limited to a few locations which are no brainier.
It looks like MM freed up her schedule to vacation with PH which is better for her status than a PR charity trip. I've already said here that I am suspicious of celebrity charity involvements and expect to see continued involvement and dedication before I believe they are sincere. So MM has just shown that hers was a PR move. Besides a woman freeing up her schedule for a prince at the expense of prior commitments? Where have we seen that before?
Chelsy has shown more independent spirit. Sad to see my pessimistic forecasts coming true.
Look at the second point in the summary of this link below, which deals with advice for Western travellers in India. It states clearly that in late December 2016 the US, UK, Israel and other foreign pro Western governments issued a travel alert for those intending to visit India.
Smartraveller.gov.au - India (http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/asia/south/pages/india.aspx)
Quote from: Curryong on January 08, 2017, 04:37:33 AM
Look at the second point in the summary of this link below, which deals with advice for Western travellers in India. It states clearly that in late December 2016 the US, UK, Israel and other foreign pro Western governments issued a travel alert for those intending to visit India.
Smartraveller.gov.au - India (http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/asia/south/pages/india.aspx)
[edited] We are in an era to global terrorism! India is a big jihadist hub. I'm sure none of us want Meghan to get hurt?? Come on!!
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So again, I'm neither "in love" w/ P Harry nor Jealous of Meghan. I'm not fangurling over her like it's Twilight all over again. I just don't have a positive opinion of Meghan even BEFORE she dated Harry. (and I've been watching Suits since the beginning) To me, she's another B/C-list celebrity using Social Media to show her GOOP wannabe tendencies and social climbing ambitions. Her Social Media is an homage to her love of the high & good life with little to no promotion of her show/work. (unlike her co-stars) Even her "charity work" is centered to promote her. (again, my opinion)
And AFTER the dating news came out, her Social Media posts are either timed to make sure she's in the weekly papers/rags and/or "hints" to confirm said "serious relationship". (I mean, was it really necessary to post that union jack on her dog?) Her timely walks to yoga makes sure her exposure is documented even though she had a lawyer push Harry & KP to make that statement that made Harry look like a spoiled brat.
Everything I've read about her, especially the gray areas in between one husband/partner/boyfriend to another doesn't paint her in a good light. But even if I ignored all those articles (as some will say they are biased), her actions in the past few months has unfortunately, already marked my negative opinion of her.
IMO, Everything she does is well planned & calculated. Maybe she is a smart cookie and will outsmart Harry into marrying her. Maybe they really are suited to one another. Who knows, we are all speculating anyway. Even the gossip rags are trying to pull bogus stories from the internet. (And the gossip leaks are coming from her, don't doubt that, one gossip columnists has the same dermatologist/skin care clinic w/ Meghan)
If Marriage does happen, I will wish them well and hope he is smart enough to have a prenup. And no, that prenup isn't to protect his money... or rather his ancestor's money. But rather to save the taxpayer's money of the people of the UK and the image/history of the commonwealth. Cheers! :royalsneeze:
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PS. India is not a "big jihadist hub". It isn't Yemen or Syria or Iraq or Turkey. The religion of the majority of Indians is Hindu, not Islam. The high do-not-travel alerts are on the border of India and Pakistan. ( But I doubt Meghan will go up the mountain regions.) The exercise-caution alerts are basically applied to anywhere in the world right now, even places in Western Europe like Paris, Berlin, Oslo or London. It would've been better had none of it were mentioned and she just vacationed AGAIN w/ Harry. So, just saying, it is these over dramatic , much-ado-about-nothing statements that have made people go :hmm:.
With the new year's holiday, Harry is head over heels for Meg's. The article in the Sun is an exclusive and his blessing is all over the article with detail of what Harry's very good friend Inge did - it's his signature not hers, to make this holiday very special. The article refers to it as a romantic getaway, so I also believe Harry did a first - another first; statement, playing house husband and wife at his cottage and this very special location. If he would have taken her at his usual vacation spots skiing at the Alpes, Botswana, Africa....but he gave this a first and a very special thought. So I Also think he did a first by paying her entire trip.
I also think IF she is Harry's "the one", he will propose/marry rather sooner than later.
I do not think she has cancelled her trip to India, that is suppose to take place in about a week's time. The couple should be back by then...7 days is the usual all inclusive at any special or expensive holiday destination.
Quote from: Kinkade on January 08, 2017, 09:49:04 AM
I haven't commented in a while because it appears to me that only fangurling is allowed and any expression of opinion or reservation against Meghan and this whole "vacation relationship" is always equated to jealousy.
But I feel I have to speak up again because of the "^^these types of people == envy/jealous people" comment directed at those here who are merely expressing how they view Meghan.
Imo this thread should be temporarily closed because it is exactly what got the cress and chelsy threads closed last year. This thread has slowly become just that. Except there are more posters attacking others personally and not their opinion on the person we're talking about. If by any chance this happens to get locked temporarily, I sincerely hope no one loses it and starts leaving hateful messages in their inbox.
I am surprised that we cannot have civilised discussion. I don't remember the old Cressida, Chelsy debates but this is silly. We should be free to express our opinions. So can we please stop the name calling and words to that effect?
No, India is not a jihadists hub, that is incorrect. In fact travelling in Europe may be more dangerous than travelling in India, barring some high tension arease, like border with Pakistan.
And the US government travel security advisory does not include India:
Alerts and Warnings (https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings.html)
So if she really cancelled, it is because she wanted to cancel, which falls in line with my suspicion that charity was PR, now she's got a better tool.
Kinkadade - I've been bothered by the wannabe-Goop tendencies, and a little googling showed me that she does aspire to be the new goop. Gwyneth Paltrow is her idol. I find Gwyneth Platrow to be an insufferable fool with her out-of-touch advices and her dangerous alt medicine quackaries. So there you go...
While we are at it something else that bothers me, for someone who'd like to talk about her mixed heritage and the difficulties she's coped with, where are her comments on BLM movement? I follow a few politically active celebs on Twitter and they all post on BLM movement or when there is another police shooting of an innocent black man in the States. All my friends post their outrage. Where is hers? Or is it an issue that doesn't fit into the image she wants to create? Because like I've said so far my impression is that her charity is a PR tool. An actually politically and socially active person would have been more vocal on thornier issue, especially this past year.
And since back in the day Chelsy was criticized for it and so was Harry, her friendship circle seems be rather white. And believe me when I say that is hard to achieve in Toronto.
If harry and Meghan get engaged then that would be lovely, if not still lovely that he has found someone. I like that harry chose someone who has lived life on her terms and continuing to do so even while dating a royal.Her family on the markle side are money hungry bringing out old photos and talking to the DM just to make a quick money.
I agree with PSM.
It's really hard to have mostly white friends in Toronto.
I live in Toronto. It's also really hard to achieve being followed by the paps here. But somehow Meghan has achieved this when she is perfectly coiffed going to yoga. In fact, Rachel McAdams lives in Toronto and there are few if any paps of her being followed here. But somehow Meghan achieves her. Do I have to mention that Meghan is no where in Rachel's league in fame? She's very fame hungry.
MM is dating Prince H, it does not seem unreasonable to me that she has paps following her at times. I remember when Rachel McAdams was dating Ryan Gosling, she certainly was papped a lot then as they were 'our golden' couple at the time; local kids making it big etc.
I give to various charities whether they are celebrity endorsed or not, and I find no problem with celebrities using their name to associate to a cause. Even if it's all PR, at the end of the day if the celebrity has brought attention to something important that might otherwise get overlooked, I think that's good. I remember clicking through TV stations and suddenly heard one of my favourite Canadian singers, Sarah Maclachlan, so I stopped to watch the show and because of that ended up donating to a World Vision project. Sarah along with Meghan are part of World Vision's celebrity division that brings additional awareness to the charity, I say good for them. I think that in this world, support what you want, just because one is of a particular race, religion or whatever doesn't mean that it is mandatory for them to publicly support certain issues.
India is a jihadist hub and I am not debating this!! Meghan did the right thing! And I am sure she spoke to Harry about this and that he urged to cancel it.
We are in an era of global terrorism! Now, disliking Meghan or expressing an opinion is one thing but wanting to put her safety at risk is taking things to a whole other level.
Lady Deb - indeed when a celeb associates with a charity and brings light to it, regardless of the motivation, it is a good thing since as you've said it is good for the charity. However that doesn't mean I will admire the celebrity and praise her/him as a humanitarian or an activist. For the latter I need to see consistency and dedication. I've told that I was reserving my judgement and this trip cancellation has reinforced my opinion that for MM it's PR. However that doesn't take away from the fact that World Vision is getting publicity.
Yale, just because you call it, India does not become a jihadists hub. But of course you may believe whatever you prefer to, I try to base my beliefs on facts.
Except for celebrity gossip where facts tend to be scarse. :) I have to say love celebrity gossip, it is my guilty pleasure. And years of following celebrity gossip taught me a few things about celebrities. One of them I've already mentioned here, they are attention seeking and have big egos. Second is kind of a rule for celeb watchers: if a celebrity does not want to be photographed they don't get photographed. If they want to undercover, they go undercover. I do understand the extra attention MM attracts and the fact that people know where she lives. But if she prefers not be photographed, she can manage it, by changing her patterns, by using the back street of her house, etc. She doesn't do that and I believe that is because she likes it. People who like MM will make all kinds of excuses, I won't.
Still I think she is gorgeous with a great style. So if PH marries her, which I think is likely, at least we have the fashion p0rn to look forward to, granting they appear in public frequently, which I admit is unlikely because of Cambridges' light load. So it's not all bad.
Good points everyone. I wonder what are the things Harry likes about her? she seems to have some common, similar, poverty stricken charity things with him, it may be an animated discussion he never before had with his exes?
Quote from: wannable on January 08, 2017, 05:02:36 PM
Good points everyone. I wonder what are the things Harry likes about her? she seems to have some common, similar, poverty stricken charity things with him, it may be an animated discussion he never before had with his exes?
I think it's her strong desire to help people.
I rarely post here cause I just dont keep up on events enough on this, but it seems to me theres some debate over the timetable of their relationship starting. Now im not going to say timetables dont matter as a Diana fan, but if every girl that dropped a guy before dating a prince had to bow out, there'd be few suitors. Theres also the reverse, as well, cough, Dodi, cough!
I wonder if the outrage over what seems to be overt hypergamy is for virtue's sake or jealously. :flower: :flower: :flower:
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