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Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna was the oldest daughter of Tsar Nicholas II and Tsarina Alexandra of Russia.   
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Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna Romanova
Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna Romanova - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e41MfcA-0r8)

Quote from: Jennifer on November 23, 2015, 02:45:39 PM
Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna Romanova
Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna Romanova - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e41MfcA-0r8)

I especially like the scene of Olga, her sisters, and Alexis running on the ship's deck.

I read so much about Nicholas II and his family at one time that I tend to veer away from reading about them now. Their end was just disgustingly dreadful and sad. Even the photos and films of them in happier times doesn't help because they're just reminders of what might have been.

I find their videos so haunting. Such a lovely family.

The pictures and films of Olga and her siblings are lovely. When I see them, I do feel happy, but I also feel sad knowing they had a tragic outcome. If the White Army had recaptured Ekateringburg earlier, they would've rescue the family in time before the Bolsheviks murdered them.

Nicholas and Alexandra, a 1971 movie online about the family:

.:Frozen-Tears:. [Frozen In Time, Never In Memory] (http://www.frozentears.org/Pages/N-A.html)

Like the photo of Nicholas taking a selfie...well he was probably checking the camera.  :)

Quote from: Jennifer on November 25, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
Nicholas and Alexandra, a 1971 movie online about the family:

.:Frozen-Tears:. [Frozen In Time, Never In Memory] (http://www.frozentears.org/Pages/N-A.html)

In Clip One, in the beginning you see the beautiful blue eyes of Empress Alexandra.     
In his book Nicholas and Alexandra, did not Robert K. Massie make a mention of Grand Duchess Marie's eyes as "Marie's saucers"?

I agree, LouisFerdinand. Empress Alexandra does have beautiful blue eyes. She looked wonderful at her mother-in-law's (Dowager Empress Marie's) birthday party. The dress, necklaces and that tiara she wore were absolutely gorgeous.

Yes, Robert K. Massie did mention Grand Duchess Maria's eyes as her "saucers" in his book, "Nicholas and Alexandra".

QuoteGrand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna

The eldest of the four Grand Duchesses, Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna was born in the 3(o.s)/15th November 1895 at Tsarskoe Selo, just outside of St.Petersburg to Tsar Nicholas II and his wife, Tsarina Alexandra.

Dark blonde haired and blue eyed as described by people who knew her, Olga was easily the most intelligent of the sisters, loving to read books and she was known for her comapssionate heart and was very thoughtful. She could also be stubborn and have a bit of a temper, and could be the 'merriest of the merry'. She was also very emotional and sensitive.

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In Matriarch, Anne Edwards wrote: Olga, the oldest, was close to his (Edward, Prince of Wales) age, and he (Edward) had overheard his grandmother say that she might one day be a suitable bride for him.

On July 11, 1613, in the Kremlin, the first Romanov tsar was crowned. He was Michael I.   
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In his diary, Paul Milyukov, the former Minister of Foreign Affairs, who was in Kiev in the summer of 1918, mentioned that he had talks with the Germans in which he spoke of marrying Nicholas II's daughter Olga to Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich in connection with a plan to create a Ukranian state protected by Germany and Russia.

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Quote from: LouisFerdinand on February 19, 2016, 10:33:16 PM

The British and Royal families in 1909. Queen Alexandra and Empress Marie of Russia were sisters

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^ The Tsar Nicholas and Tsarina Alexandra and their children visited England for the last time in August 1909. They sailed to Cowes on the Isle of Wight on the imperial Russian royal yacht Standart, arriving a week before the annual Yachting Regatta held there. They were greeted by most of the British Channel Fleet and King Edward and Queen Alexandra in their yacht the Victoria and Albert. The evenings were filled with parties, splendid banquets and balls held on the two yachts. Osborne House, Queen Victoria's old home, was not how the Tsarina remembered it, as Edward had given it to the Royal Navy as a training facility.

Quote from: LouisFerdinand on February 19, 2016, 10:14:56 PM
In his diary, Paul Milyukov, the former Minister of Foreign Affairs, who was in Kiev in the summer of 1918, mentioned that he had talks with the Germans in which he spoke of marrying Nicholas II's daughter Olga to Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich in connection with a plan to create a Ukranian state protected by Germany and Russia.

^ Germany was facing The Last Push in the late summer of 1918 however, which, along with bread riots in German cities, would lead to the Armistice of November 1918. Germany would, under the Treaty of Versailles, have never been allowed to keep troops in the Ukraine, whether it was independent or not, whether for defence or not. Russia itself was in the midst of battles between White Armies and Red which would last for years. Although the European powers were worried about the imprisonment of the Imperial family this plan was doomed anyway.

In a major first for history, the camera fixed for all time the most striking moments of the ceremony.   
Its pictures show Nicholas II's solemn entry into Moscow on May 6, 1896. His white steed is followed by the cortège of notables on horseback.   
Then came the long procession of guests: Henry of Prussia, Wilhelm II's brother; Prince Arthur, The Duke of Connaught; Nicholas of Montenegro; the Crown Princes of Greece and Romania.

Quote from: LouisFerdinand on February 22, 2016, 03:38:57 AM

Empress Alexandra on the Standart       
http://www.longliveroyalty.tumblr.com/post/116944203483/empress

^ I think this last visit was bitter-sweet for Alexandra. Yes she saw her English relatives, Uncle, Aunt etc. However, her beloved grandmother, who in some ways had taken over a mothering role to the Hesse princesses after their own mother died and was especially close to Alexandra, was no longer there, and Osborne House, which she remembered so clearly from her girlhood, was part of a naval training facility.

Nicholas II had continually to interfere to prevent a row between his mother and Alexandra.   
The two women could not get along well. The Dowager Empress liked fun. Alexandra was austere.     
Whenever it emerged, the discord between Marie Feodorovna and Alexandra embarrassed Nicholas.

                                                    Tsar Peter III   
                                      Peter III was the sovereign of Russia for six months in 1762.   
                                      Numerous portraits were painted of him.   
                                      Tsar Peter III - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QALVjZ-v7z4)       

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                         Tsar Ivan VI Antonovich reigned 1740 to 1741.   
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                             Tsar Nicholas II: HIS VOICE       
                             Emperor Nicolas II's voice (recording).wmv ????? ??????? II.mp3. - YouTube (https://youtube.com/watch?v=FpEEwZBcmJg)

             Tsar Peter I's childhood toughened him up for life.   
               Peter the great of Russia - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm9lVRcx4Ok)

                            Grand Duchess Tatiana had the finest beauty.       
                               The finest Beauty of Grand Duchess Tatiana - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xyn5FB01-Q)

Was Tsarina Marie Feodorovna a formidable lady?

                       Olga: A beautiful Grand Duchess   
                        Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crjxn2BAgqo)

Why did Tsar Paul I restore primogeniture as the basis of succession to the crown?

The Russian Orthodox Church wants another DNA examination to be done on the remains of the last Romanov family. They still are doubtful that the remains belong to the family. Even if the scientists do another test on their remains, the results will still confirm that they belong to them. 

QuoteChurch to announce results of the examinations of "Yekaterinburg remains" in second quarter of 2017

The Russian Orthodox Church has announced that the results of the DNA-examinations of the "Yekaterinburg remains", or better said the remains of Emperor Nicholas II of Russia, Empress Alexandra Feodorovna and their children, will be announced in the second quarter of 2017.

"Very intensive work is going on. The genetic expertise has been held in the best world's laboratories. Very extensive and interesting anthropological expertise with principally new data is being completed, now I can't be more precise. The Anthropology Institute, coroners, anthropologists were also involved in it. There also was a historical expertise."

The final decision on the recognition or non-recognition of the remains as holy relics will be with the Council of Bishops. On 15 August 2000, Nicholas and his family were canonised as passion bearers, a title commemorating believers who face death in a Christ-like manner, by the Russian Orthodox Church within Russia.

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Church to announce results of the examinations of ?Yekaterinburg remains? in second quarter of 2017 – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/historic/church-to-announce-results-of-the-examinations-of-yekaterinburg-remains-in-second-quarter-of-2017-74721)

Dowager Empress Marie Feodorovna never once received her son Grand Duke Michael's morganatic wife, Madame Brassova and her son, Count George Brassov.

Tsar Peter I spent four and a half years in Amsterdam, most of it working as a carpenter in the dockyard of the Dutch East India Company.

During the First World War, Dowager Empress Marie Feodorovna was president of the Russian Red Cross.

Portrait of Tsarevich Nicholas (1843-1865) in a military uniform   
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The Great Siberian Railway Easter Egg was made in 1900. Nicholas as Tsarevich had been president of the railway.     

Tsar Peter I crowned his wife Catherine I as Empress in 1726.   
Peter the Great crowns his wife Catherine I as Empress, 1726. Found... News Photo - Getty Images (http://www.gettyimages.com/license/599920457)

Tsar Nicholas I reviewed his army at Sevastopol during the Crimean War.   
Nicholas I of Russia reviewing his army at Sevastopol during the Stock Photo: 83341329 - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-nicholas-i-of-russia-reviewing-his-army-at-sevastopol-during-the-crimean-83341329.html)

One plan had been to imprison Emperor Peter III in Schlusselburg Fortress . Schusselburg was only forty miles from the capital. Peter would become the second deposed emperor imprisoned in this bastion. Tsar Ivan VI was already a prisoner there. Could Peter III have been sent back to Holstein?

Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna of Russia (1819-1876) was the daughter of Tsar Nicholas I. In 1839 she married Maximilian, Duke of Leuchtenberg. She was an art collector and President of the Imperial Academy of Arts in Saint Petersburg.

Tsar Paul I condescending to visit Kosciusko in prison, circa 1796   
Paul I, emperor of all the Russias, condescending to visit Kosciusko Stock Photo - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-paul-i-emperor-of-all-the-russias-condescending-to-visit-kosciusko-24988981.html)

Grand Duchess Olga was the daughter of Tsar Nicholas I of Russia. Her father's first choice of husband was Archduke Stephen of Austria. Metternich put an end to it. Olga married Karl, Hereditary Prince of Wurttemberg.

Grand Duchess Militza Nikolaevna, the wife of Grand Duke Peter Nikolaevich, gave birth to twin daughters Marina and Sofia in March 1898.

Portrait of Grand Duke Nicholas and Grand Duke Michael Mikhailovich in Baden in 1876 
Portrait of Grand Duke Nicholas Mikhailovich and Grand Duke Michael Stock Photo - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-portrait-of-grand-duke-nicholas-mikhailovich-135324090.html)

After her own son Grand Duke George, who does Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna recognize as the next heir to the imperial throne?

Her grandson probably, should George and Rebecca be fortunate to have one, (and Rebecca is nearing the end of our childbearing years.) Other than that I don?t believe Maria recognises anyone not of her own line.

Maria is very fond of issuing grandiose statements about other claimants to the non-existent Russian throne but has remained quiet about her own daughter in law?s commoner status which would certainly have seen a morganatic marriage in another age.. However Maria is backed in her claims by the Russian Orthodox Church, hence the wedding ceremony in the cathedral the other day.

To me it has all the faintly ridiculous flimsy, fluffy Ruritanian nonsense of novels and musicals of a hundred years ago. George is obviously very much influenced by his mother but IMO he and his wife would have been much happier if they hadnt participated in this lifelong farce.

I?m reminded of an anecdote I read in a Rex Harrison bio. Harrison and his wife Lili were more or less forced to entertain the Duke and Duchess of Windsor when the would descend upon them in their Italian holiday home. Rex?s cook was English, a Cockney, who would never curtsey to the ex King. Harrison asked her once why not and her answer was ?I don?t curtsey to them that don?t sit on thrones!?.

And that?s my view on all these Pretenders to non existent monarchies really.

Quite frankly, I thought it was all ridiculous.  The Imperial Empire exists no longer.   <_<

Yes, but they are still squabbling about this non-existent throne, as the French have done in the past as well.

A family tree for those interested, lol

Who Would Be Tsar of Russia Today? | Romanov Family Tree - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nMj08bfbi-g)

Very interesting.  Of course, hypothetical.  But interesting.   

Thanks :flower3:

I like the explanation about the Grand Duke Cyril being the Guardian of the Throne and eventually the Emperor in exile.

Quote from: LouisFerdinand on October 05, 2021, 11:15:28 PM
I like the explanation about the Grand Duke Cyril being the Guardian of the Throne and eventually the Emperor in exile.

That was self proclaimed ?Emperor? however. And he was far from accepted by all Russians exiles abroad. Nor is his granddaughter Maria today.