Prince Andrew General Chat

[TLLK]

Prince Andrew faces losing armed guard as Home Office recommends major downgrade of security | Daily Mail Online

Prince Andrew could be stripped of his armed police protection after he was forced to stand down from royal duties after the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.

The Home Office is set to recommend a downgrade of his security amid concerns of the costs involved of round the clock bodyguards

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Prince Andrew reportedly faces losing armed guards after stepping down from royal duties | HELLO!

Duke of York set to lose taxpayer-funded bodyguards in wake of Jeffrey Epstein scandal

Prince Andrew: Home Office 'recommends downgrade of security' | UK news | The Guardian
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Prince Andrew 'to lose armed police protection in major security downgrade' - Mirror Online


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Prince Andrew faces losing round-the-clock police protection after Epstein scandal

[TLLK]

It would mean the prince either having no bodyguards, or having to pay for them himself. As a member of the royal family, and a former serving member of the armed forces, the prince could be seen as a target by terrorist groups.

[sandy]

He could also be targeted because he was friendly with Epstein and there are accusations against him.

[Princess Cassandra]

In that case I hope he does pay for security. He shouldn't be without it, and it seems like a wrong move to withdraw it.

[QueenAlex]

In that case I hope he does pay for security. He shouldn't be without it, and it seems like a wrong move to withdraw it.

His choice.  He chose to get into slezy money deals and to associate with Epstein.  He's not a working royal any more...

[Princess Cassandra]

  His choice.  He chose to get into slezy money deals and to associate with Epstein.  He's not a working royal any more...

Right, but he is a member of the royal family, just as Prince Philip and the children. They are all at risk and need security. But, I think he should pay for it, considering he is no longer a working royal.

[QueenAlex]

Right, but he is a member of the royal family, just as Prince Philip and the children. They are all at risk and need security. But, I think he should pay for it, considering he is no longer a working royal.

Its up to him.  If he wants security, I think he will have to pay for it.. so its his own choice.   saem with Harry.  The Canadians may pay for security for a time but they wont do it permanently

[FanDianaFancy]

Has a fascinating one hour program on Andrew and Epstein. It is called Andrew and Epstein.
No tabloid, no gossip, no yellow journalism stuff.
This is a fair, accurate documentary.
The True Story - REELZChannel

It is a show with facts presented .
Check it out on REELZ cable station.

[Nightowl]

Thank you for the info  yet, So wish I could get that channel for I am very interested in how this turns out, just do not want it to be swept under the rugs and covered up behind closed doors.

[Princess Cassandra]

Thank you for the info  yet, So wish I could get that channel for I am very interested in how this turns out, just do not want it to be swept under the rugs and covered up behind closed doors.

Whether it is swept under the rug or not, he has lost all respect from the Public. By now he must realize that nobody is buying his stories.

[Curryong]

It seems Andrew has more woes, this time over a presumed mortgage repayment on the Swiss chalet he and Sarah bought together. They owed a large amount which is now overdue and climbing daily. Sarah wrote to the company involved promising, promising... As is usual with her,  no actual money was forthcoming to discharge the debt  and so Andrew is now being sued. It's reported that the Yorks plan to sell their share of the chalet.

Prince Andrew to face legal case over reported ?5m ski chalet debt | UK news | The Guardian

[QueenAlex]

It seems Andrew has more woes, this time over a presumed mortgage repayment on the Swiss chalet he and Sarah bought together. They owed a large amount which is now overdue and climbing daily. Sarah wrote to the company involved promising, promising... As is usual with her,  no actual money was forthcoming to discharge the debt  and so Andrew is now being sued. It's reported that the Yorks plan to sell their share of the chalet.

Prince Andrew to face legal case over reported ?5m ski chalet debt | UK news | The Guardian

I doubt he'll be sued, or go bankrupt.  They'll probaby just sell up....

[Curryong]

Yes, I think they will sell. However, it's a question, in this economic climate as to how quickly any sale would go through. I don't think the chalet is being advertised for sale at this time. And the couple are facing legal proceedings over the undischarged debt as we speak. The company is suing now, not in the future.

And considering how much the debt has climbed in a few months since 2019 when the Yorks defaulted on their mortgage, God knows what it will be by the time any sale goes through. I don't think that Andrew is actually scratching for his next meal but these days there's not much doubt that he is a lot poorer than he used to be.

[QueenAlex]

Yes, I think they will sell. However, it's a question, in this economic climate as to how quickly any sale would go through. I don't think the chalet is being advertised for sale at this time. And the couple are facing legal proceedings over the undischarged debt as we speak. The company is suing now, not in the future.

And considering how much the debt has climbed in a few months since 2019 when the Yorks defaulted on their mortgage, God knows what it will be by the time any sale goes through. I don't think that Andrew is actually scratching for his next meal but these days there's not much doubt that he is a lot poorer than he used to be.

the sort of people who can afford to buy a chalet like that, will probably still be buying things, though the rest of us are being cautious.  Its a holiday place, so some rich fat cat will be problaby expecting to go on  a Skiing holiday next year....

[wannable]

It's now being reported the York's will be selling the property.  A trust fund friend sold it to them and had accepted the deed of sale with a clause of the remaining money order to be paid this past December 2019.  In other words, if the property cost is GBP 30M, the York's paid GBP 24M, the remaining money order to be paid this past Dec '19 would be the reported (articles) GBP 6 Million (plus interests).

Now the Trust Fund Friend is an Ex Friend because she is suing them for lack of payment.

OOT, their nephew should really see Andrew and Fergie's money woes with 'freebies' or special treatment from friends.  Nothing is free or friendly in personal or career life.

[Curryong]

From the time the Yorks married Fergie lived up to their income and then some. There were stories of the Queen having to bail them out several times, while Andrew was in the Navy and Fergie was a working Royal.

After the divorce, in spite of some lucrative commercial deals Fergie went on her merry way, enjoying a lot of travel and an extensive social life. She has always been hopeless with money, continuously in debt and getting loans, which no doubt she promised to repay but didn't, from her ex husband, friends and shady people like Epstein (even when he was known to be shady.) She gave money she didn't have to her mother and others.

As for Andrew, he was continuously wheeling, dealing for years as a supposed British honorary Trade Envoy, rumoured to be  feathering his own nest with millions.

There is no evidence of Harry or Meghan living like Fergie does, constantly travelling/socialising/spending money, or behaving as Andrew did as a faux Trade Envoy, a position he had to give up due to complaints. They lived quietly in the mansion in Canada, were hardly seen, and now are in LA. and have been seen on four occasions if that, there. Two moves in one year. Wow!

What is more, we don't know, in spite of the assertions of tabloids like the Fail, what the financial arrangements were for the mansion on Ottowa Island or are in LA. Equally, we don't know what the arrangements were about the jet that took them from Canada to the US. Other royals (notably Charles and Camilla) have freebies, use yachts, planes etc from friends and acquaintances without having to sell their souls to the devil, and it is the same with the Sussexes.

[FanDianaFancy]

@QueenAlex  and @Curryong , you have good points.
This or that.
Add this one. Since a rich fat cat buyer knows the owners, AnS of York are up a financial battle , the buyer will want it for a lower sales price.
Lower than the value.
Yorks paid 24 million.
Someone might want to buy it for 20 million. 24 million tops. Yorks, you know them, want to sell it for 50 million.
Will there be some benefactor/ ? shady friend ? to buy it for a ridiculous amount of money like the person who bought Sunnighill land?
I doubt it.
Karma and time  for Andrew n Sarah.

Will THE QUEEN write the check for 10 , give him 10 million to fix this problem?
Hmmm.....who knows.

[Curryong]

A new biography, by Nigel Cawthorne, on Prince Andrew is coming, 'Prince Andrew, The End of the Monarchy and Epstein.' Something more for me to buy and hopefully enjoy.

'The Making of Prince Charmless' shows characteristics there from the beginning with Andrew, a sense of entitlement, snobbery, insensitivity and a crude sense of humour among them. His upbringing as the adored third child is examined as well as his adult life.

The making of Prince Andrew | Daily Mail Online

[TLLK]

@Curryong-I'm tempted to put it on my list when it becomes available but there is an "ick" factor to Prince Andrew's life that might stop me from reading it. <_<

[Curryong]

^ Yes, we don't know how much of Epstein and the ensuing scandal is going to dominate this biography. After all, Cawthorne probably started researching for it when the news of Epstein and Andrew broke following the former's arrest and subsequent death. However, I do want to read more about Andrew's upbringing and also his relationship with Fergie, the marriage, breakup, etc.

[wannable]

The book is a 101 How to create a monster, parents mollycoddling. 

[QueenAlex]

The book is a 101 How to create a monster, parents mollycoddling.

I doubt if Philip mollycoddled him.  The queen yes, I think that Andrew was the first child she had a chance to spend time with and she just found him her favourite.  Even now she is too soft with him.   

[Curryong]

A new Netflix documentary on Epstein/Andrew, a new book on his life, no interviews with FBI even on Skype, the ski chalet debt thing grinding on etc etc. The take on Andrew nowadays from the Daily Beast, including the observation that even before Covid-19 Andrew became a no show at his favourite haunts, in London, abroad, elsewhere in England. With the exception of Balmoral with mummy of course.

Prince Andrew Faces Fresh Humiliation Over Jeffrey Epstein, the Royal Scandal That Never Ends

[QueenAlex]

A new Netflix documentary on Epstein/Andrew, a new book on his life, no interviews with FBI even on Skype, the ski chalet debt thing grinding on etc etc. The take on Andrew nowadays from the Daily Beast, including the observation that even before Covid-19 Andrew became a no show at his favourite haunts, in London, abroad, elsewhere in England. With the exception of Balmoral with mummy of course.

Prince Andrew Faces Fresh Humiliation Over Jeffrey Epstein, the Royal Scandal That Never Ends

I think it is unlikey that he's going to socialise as he used to do..   he is now condemned to a life where only a few friends and famlily will be there for him.. and his mother is not going to throw him out.