Zara and names

amabel · August 21, 2011, 10:54:09 AM

This came up somewhere a few weeks ago where Anne apparently said that P Charles suggested the unusual name of Zara for her daughter because she was born at dawn. I've now checked a couple of names books (hobby of mine) and they give Zorah as an Arabic or Persian name signifying "dawn" while Zara "may" mean "flower." I was surprised that Charles would suggest such an unusual name, but if he did, why not at least get it Right?

cinrit · August 21, 2011, 12:22:49 PM

It may depend on the book(s) or website(s). This website says that "Zara" means "Glorious Dawn" and is believed to have originated from Hebrew.

http://www.meaning-of-baby-girl-names.org.uk/first-name-meanings-z/meaning-of-zara.htm

Cindy

Trudie · August 21, 2011, 08:29:56 PM

It is also Greek meaning bright as dawn from what I have read. I think Charles came up with the Greek translation.

amabel · August 22, 2011, 05:40:56 AM

Quote from: Trudie on August 21, 2011, 08:29:56 PM
It is also Greek meaning bright as dawn from what I have read. I think Charles came up with the Greek translation.

My Greek ins't up to much, but I thought that the greek for Dawn was "eos".

pinkpearls · August 22, 2011, 09:43:31 AM

According to http://www.name-meanings.com/search.php Zara is Hebrew for "Princess"

According to http://www.meaning-of-names.com/search/ Zara the origin is from Israel for "Princess" and French for "light"

According to http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Zara.html Zara means shining; flower in Arabic

According to http://www.babynames.com/name/ZARA means "Princess" and is a form of Sarah

According to http://www.babyhold.com/list/French_Baby_Names/Zara/details/ it means Light

According to http://www.babyhold.com/list/Hebrew_Baby_Names/Zara/details/ it means Princess

According to http://www.mybabyname.com/names/Zara it means Princess and light

cinrit · August 22, 2011, 01:32:48 PM

Quote from: amabel on August 22, 2011, 05:40:56 AM
My Greek ins't up to much, but I thought that the greek for Dawn was "eos".

Eos is the Titan goddess of dawn in Greek mythology. I don't think it's an actual word, is it?

Cindy

Lindelle · August 22, 2011, 02:19:59 PM

I really don't like to bring this up BUT, some of you may have heard the story of the dingo that took baby Azaria Chamberline?

Well apparently Anne liked the name but didn't like to associate it with her new baby duaghter as Azaria was taken at the time Zara was born and so she shortened or similarized it.

Anyway, the name story was a big thing at the time.

pinkpearls · August 22, 2011, 02:28:36 PM

Wow - I just Google the baby's name. Fascinating case! But terribly sad for the parents!

cinrit · August 22, 2011, 03:06:24 PM

Quote from: Lindelle on August 22, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
I really don't like to bring this up BUT, some of you may have heard the story of the dingo that took baby Azaria Chamberline?

Well apparently Anne liked the name but didn't like to associate it with her new baby duaghter as Azaria was taken at the time Zara was born and so she shortened or similarized it.

Anyway, the name story was a big thing at the time.

I do remember the case. I believe there was even a made-for-TV movie made about it, wasn't there? I'd never heard that Zara's name was associated with the baby's name, though. Is it true, or is it urban legend?

Cindy

amabel · August 22, 2011, 04:18:35 PM

Quote from: Lindelle on August 22, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
I really don't like to bring this up BUT, some of you may have heard the story of the dingo that took baby Azaria Chamberline?

Well apparently Anne liked the name but didn't like to associate it with her new baby daughter as Azaria was taken at the time Zara was born and so she shortened or similarized it.

Anyway, the name story was a big thing at the time.

Yes the name Zara was considered so unusual for a royaal. but I've never heard of this version. Seems a bit far fetched to me? As for the Zara = Princess, SARAH which is a Hebrew name, means princess but it is a pretty well known upper class name... OK it could be a variant spelling - but I think that Anne chose Zara as a sign that she didn't want the baby to be considered royal...

amabel · August 22, 2011, 04:34:43 PM

Quote from: cinrit on August 22, 2011, 01:32:48 PM
Quote from: amabel on August 22, 2011, 05:40:56 AM
My

Eos is the Titan goddess of dawn in Greek mythology. I don't think it's an actual word, is it?

Cindy

Don't know!! I do know that Prince Albert (Vics husband) had a dog called Eos! I never could learn Greek though I've tried to learn a few wrods on holiday.

cinrit · August 22, 2011, 06:31:39 PM

Quote from: amabel on August 22, 2011, 04:34:43 PM
Don't know!! I do know that Prince Albert (Vics husband) had a dog called Eos! I never could learn Greek though I've tried to learn a few wrods on holiday.

I don't know, either. I only know the name Eos because it comes up fairly often in crossword puzzles, which I enjoy. Crazy way to learn new things, huh? :laugh:

Cindy

Lindelle · August 22, 2011, 10:16:39 PM

Cinrit there was a movie version yes.
As for urban legend, well maybe.

amabel · August 23, 2011, 05:32:42 AM

I just think it sounds highly dubious Lindelle. According to a story someone posted recently Anne said it was Charles' choice, and that it was IIRC a Greek name meaning "Dawn" because the baby was born early in the morning.
My Greek is not up to much.. well its' nothing, but I have read in 2 names books, (one better researched than the other) that the Persian or Arab name meaning "dawn" is Zorah, not Zara... I don't know of a Greek name for Dawn

Lindelle · August 23, 2011, 05:46:53 AM

Yes i understand that amabel.
It was just a story that came about when the case was happening, but us Aussies thought it mighty thoughtful.

amabel · August 23, 2011, 05:55:29 AM

Did it? Sorry do you mean that the story that Anne liked the name Azariah and this came out during the Dingo baby case? But I assume that was in 1980 when the child was taken? or was it later when the case was revieewd and Lindy C was let out of prison?

Lindelle · August 23, 2011, 06:38:43 AM

Yes she liked the name Azaria - it was a huge story here but because of the case she changed it to a similar.

memememe · August 23, 2011, 06:58:24 AM

Quote from: Lindelle on August 22, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
I really don't like to bring this up BUT, some of you may have heard the story of the dingo that took baby Azaria Chamberline?

Well apparently Anne liked the name but didn't like to associate it with her new baby duaghter as Azaria was taken at the time Zara was born and so she shortened or similarized it.

Anyway, the name story was a big thing at the time.

I remember the case but never heard that Anne liked the name Azaria.

I remember that when Zara was announced it was also announced that Charles has suggested the name but that is all I remember.

cinrit · August 23, 2011, 10:26:34 AM

There is an American actor named Hank Azaria. Just thought I'd put that out there to lighten the mood.

Cindy

Lindelle · August 23, 2011, 12:24:16 PM

But our moods are light.

Bensgal · August 24, 2011, 08:34:44 AM

I've always thought Zara's name beautiful & considered it on my list of names for one of my daughters.