The Last Days, Death, Lying in State and Funeral of Queen Elizabeth II Part 2

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TLLK

#250
November 16, 2022, 01:38:17 PM
The man who attempted to rush the late QEII's coffin is still too ill to attend court.

Mourner 'who approached Queen's coffin to check if she was dead' is still too ill to attend court | Daily Mail Online

Blue Clover

#251
November 17, 2022, 03:00:28 PM
Based on that statement, there might be a mental health problem.

Curryong

#252
November 17, 2022, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Blue Clover on November 17, 2022, 03:00:28 PM
Based on that statement, there might be a mental health problem.

I think there?s almost certainly a mental health problem, and let?s hope this man gets the help he needs. Apparently he?s needed it for a while.

sara8150

#253
November 22, 2022, 04:25:44 PM Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 04:28:52 PM by sara8150
QuoteA man charged with breach of the peace after Prince Andrew was allegedly heckled as he walked behind the Queen?s coffin will not face court, prosecutors have said.

The 22-year-old was arrested after the incident, which occurred as The Duke of York walked in the procession as it made its way from the Palace of Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh to St Giles? Cathedral on September 12.

The Crown Office said the case has been dealt with ?by way of an offer of an alternative to prosecution?.

A spokesman said: ?The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 22-year-old male in connection with an alleged incident on September 12, 2022.

?After full and careful consideration of all facts and circumstances, the case was dealt with by way of an offer of an alternative to prosecution.?

Alternatives to prosecution can include warnings, work orders, fines and compensation orders, however the Crown Office said it could not say what alternative was used in this case.

Prosecutors also said no action will be taken at this time against a woman who held an anti-monarchy sign ahead of the accession proclamation of King Charles III in Edinburgh.

The 22-year-old was arrested outside St Giles? Cathedral on September 11.

The Crown Office said: ?The procurator fiscal received a report relating to a 22-year-old female and an incident said to have occurred on September 11, 2022.

?After careful consideration of the facts and circumstances of the case, including the available admissible evidence, the procurator fiscal decided that there should be no proceedings taken at this time.

?The Crown reserves the right to proceed in the future if it is appropriate and in the public interest to do so.?

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-11-22/no-court-for-man-charged-after-prince-andrew-heckled

No trial for man who heckled Prince Andrew as he escorted Queen's coffin - Mirror Online

Curryong

#255
November 22, 2022, 08:51:02 PM

What does the Mirror mean, ?won?t face trial?.? What did they expect? A charge of Treason followed by a proceedings in the High Court of Edinburgh, judge in scarlet robes and wig, etc, barristers rushing about? The bloke was charged with a breach of the peace, not high treason. A magistrate court deals with those sort of petty offences, usually with a fine or telling off. A magistrate?s court is the lowest of all the courts in the UK. Sometimes these tabloid headlines just make me giggle!

Curryong

#257
November 29, 2022, 12:07:02 AM
Hope this is the correct thread. Below are the rules and regulations in Scotland for attending physicians per the ?cause of death? provision on the death certificates of their patients, whether at home or in hospital or elsewhere. It is strict, as it should be. If a patient dies of a heart attack or stroke or asthmatic attack then that is what is put on the certificate. If death comes from complications of a long standing disease or condition, it gets stated on the death certificate by the chief attending physician.

Medical certificates of cause of death: guidance on completion - gov.scot

Curryong

#259
November 29, 2022, 06:39:08 AM
I think the authorities were worried about Westminster Hall flooring at the time. I?m sure I read about it. It?s a pity some kind of matting can?t be put down for these big occasions, unattractive though that look might be.

wannable

#260
November 29, 2022, 11:25:14 AM
The headline (s) is an exaggeration to the actual state.

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'It has exposed some areas of bare stone that will blend in with the surrounding areas over time. This does not present a structural risk.'

Delaminations means the colouring has become different to the stone around it, though the spokesperson said the damage is unlikely to become permanent.

TLLK

#261
November 29, 2022, 12:55:10 PM
Quote from: Curryong on November 29, 2022, 12:07:02 AM
Hope this is the correct thread. Below are the rules and regulations in Scotland for attending physicians per the ?cause of death? provision on the death certificates of their patients, whether at home or in hospital or elsewhere. It is strict, as it should be. If a patient dies of a heart attack or stroke or asthmatic attack then that is what is put on the certificate. If death comes from complications of a long standing disease or condition, it gets stated on the death certificate by the chief attending physician.

Medical certificates of cause of death: guidance on completion - gov.scot

This is the perfect thread to discuss the late Queen's death certificate.  :thumbsup:

Amabel2

#262
November 29, 2022, 02:14:26 PM
Is this about this silly thing about the queen having cancer, which is probably an idea of Lady CC

TLLK

#263
November 29, 2022, 03:19:21 PM
@Ambel2-It's been reported that Prince Phillip's long time friend and writer Giles Brandreth has claimed that the late QEII possibly  had a form of bone marrow cancer (multiple myeloma) in the last couple of years. According to the Mayo Clinic symptoms include bone pain, nausea, constipation, fatigue, weakness or numbness in the legs. The symptoms seem to be in line with the Queen's mobility issues and fatigue that she was experiencing.
While we aren't likely to receive official word on this news, I could see why this would have been a possibility especially at her advanced age.

Curryong

#265
November 29, 2022, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on November 29, 2022, 06:04:51 PM
Westminster Hall flooring damaged by royal mourners queuing for Queen's lying in state | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-11-29/westminster-hall-floor-damaged-by-mourners-who-visited-queens-lying-in-state

The King keeps on Queen Elizabeth II?s Ladies-in-Waiting, including Lady Susan Hussey ? Royal Central
Late Queen Elizabeth?s lady in waiting will work for King Charles and Queen Camilla still search for right hand of lady in waiting articles says lady in waiting work for royals household under late Queen Elizabeth

Lady Susan Hussey and her Lady in Waiting companions are all in their late 70s, 80s and 90s. My guess is that they will stay on for another year or so to get Camilla?s Companions (what a ridiculous title as they are L-I-W in all but name but Companions so much more modern, less elitist) are au fait with the job they?re to do and then will quietly retire.

sara8150

#266
December 03, 2022, 09:26:15 PM Last Edit: December 03, 2022, 09:34:49 PM by sara8150
QuoteWhen a piece of music was premiered in front of a global audience at Queen Elizabeth II's funeral, there was one television viewer who surprisingly had also never heard it sung before - its composer, Sir James MacMillan.

His wife had recently broken her foot - and although Sir James had been invited to Westminster Abbey for the funeral, he had stayed at home in Scotland to help her.

Sir James had not even heard a rehearsal of the piece, which he had written in secret, and until the night before the funeral was not completely sure it would be performed.

So the first time he heard his choral piece was when it was sung in front of the Royal Family and world leaders crammed into the abbey.

"I watched it with my wife on the television," the 63-year-old told BBC News. "It was a pinch-me moment really." He remained "astonished" and very proud to have become part of such a historic moment.

It was also a glimpse into the extent of long-term planning for the funeral.

"I was approached by the abbey in deep secrecy in 2011," Sir James said.

"It was for the commendation part of the funeral service and I was asked to keep very quiet about it and not tell anybody.

"It was the text 'Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?', which I was told was one of the Queen's favourite passages from scripture and that strangely hadn't been set a lot to music."

A recording of the piece was released on Friday.

Sir James said he had written the choral piece quickly, despite being well aware of the huge responsibility.

It had needed to be music for an intense personal and national event, a key spiritual moment in the funeral, not just "entertainment", he said. And when it was finished, the music went to Westminster Abbey, where it stayed out of sight.

"They didn't want any indication of these plans coming out," Sir James said.

When news of the Queen's death broke, he realised his music, written more than a decade earlier, could now be used.

"I got the score out and looked at it again to remind myself of what the music would sound like," Sir James said. "It's always different when you play it on the piano - but that's what composing is, you've got to imagine sounds that are not in the room with you."

With the funeral preparations under way, Sir James was told his music was being rehearsed in London - but it was not confirmed it would be performed until 22:00 on the night before.

There was also a new piece from master of the Queen's music Judith Weir, who set to music the words of Psalm 42, "Like as the hart". The composer, now master of the King's music, declined to comment on her commission.

'Deep faith'
In the solemn grandeur of the state funeral, Sir James heard voices singing his piece for the very first time. The choristers performed his elegiac anthem on the most public stage imaginable.

Sir James said he still did not know how much the Queen had been involved in choosing the music for her funeral. He had met her on a number of occasions and in 2015 had been knighted in her birthday honours.

King Charles III had always been supportive of his music, Sir James said. But he believes the Queen liked the chosen Bible text, because of its optimism.

"There's a sense of hope for the future," Sir James said, with the words assuming death was not the end and there was a heaven.
They begin: "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come."

"The words pointed to her deep faith, she was a persuasive and quiet advocate of the Christian perspective, communicating in a way that many clergy can't manage," Sir James said.

And he rejected suggestions the text "Who shall separate us... ?" contained a coded message about the Scottish independent debate, saying: "There's not a lot in St Paul's letter to the Romans that's about Scottish constitutional reform."

Greater reach
Sir James is the only living composer whose music was played at both the funeral and the thanksgiving service for the Queen at St Giles's Cathedral in Edinburgh.

His choral music is a blend of ancient and modern, spiritual and contemplative, often with a Scottish inflection - a mix that might well have appealed to the Queen, who he said seemed to combine "the deep past and the modern".

Sir James was already recognised as a leading modern composer but the spotlight of the Queen's funeral has brought him an even greater reach.
"I'm beginning to hear about performances of the piece all over the world," he said.

"It's one the most significant things that has ever happened to me."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63782432
Late Queen Elizabeth?s composer kept secret for her funeral arrangements not surprisingly and kept under wraps till day of her funeral and thanksgiving service for Duke of Edinburgh

TLLK

#269
December 24, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
https://twitter.com/majestymagazine/status/1606262949789704192?s=61&t=4pxHCaRLBHQGbTa80W_psA

QuoteCondolence cards containing financial donations sent to the King, following the death of the late Queen, have been passed on to the @fuel_bank
charity, along with an additional donation from His Majesty via The Prince of Wales?s Charitable Fund (PWCF).

Good to see that the donations were collected to be used by the Fuel Bank and that KCIII made an additional contribution to the fund.

Curryong

#270
December 24, 2022, 10:33:08 PM
Why on earth ordinary people would think that the King or the BRF would need financial contributions from ordinary people to go towards the funeral expenses I can?t think. If it was for charities in the name of the late Queen then donors should surely have intimated as much. There?s an old Yorkshire expression ?There?s nowt so queer as folks? and these gestures illustrate it.

wannable

#271
December 25, 2022, 12:17:50 AM
Quote from: TLLK on December 24, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
https://twitter.com/majestymagazine/status/1606262949789704192?s=61&t=4pxHCaRLBHQGbTa80W_psA

Good to see that the donations were collected to be used by the Fuel Bank and that KCIII made an additional contribution to the fund.

Wonderful the fuel crisis in the UK is 👌 cause to send the donations and contribute to it as well
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