Harry and Megan Relationship

[Curryong]

Hi ElBeJay, and welcome to this forum.

In answer to your post, I do think that MM is probably inclined to self-promote and navel-gaze. She is after all in an industry where the vast majority of actors/actresses do precisely that. They have to always look out for the next part and keep their names in the public eye if possible. After all, show business is notoriously insecure, and it gets worse as the person gets older.

About 95% of actors are unemployed at any one time, so having any sort of a known profile at all is an achievement, IMO. That constant sense of nagging insecurity about a career one loves must be awful, which is why, although I've been in an amateur drama group and enjoyed it, I'd never choose acting as a career.

The Tig is a blog I've hardly ever read. However, it's like many others of the same type, I'd guess, and some must like it, as it was successful before she met Harry. It's supposed to bring her in about $100,000 in cash and kind per year, I've read.

Meghan is an enthusiastic foodie, so I'm not surprised that The Tig is full of tips on food and recommendations to restaurants as cooking, eating and eating out interest her. She gets endorsements from it and from the handbags and jewellery and interior design tips she posts there. That may not be very admirable in some people's eyes but Meghan makes additional income from it and it's another string to her bow.

Surely being open to other things like designing for Reitmans stores or starting up a blog to showcase food and other interests shows initiative and some business nous? However, Meghan is serious about her romance with Harry and as you've noted she has pulled right back on the self-promotion, on The Tig and on her social media generally.

Meghan's a woman of some intelligence. Through Harry she must know what the BRF is about by now. She is adapting because she wants to be with Harry and wants to be accepted by his family. What she may feel in a few years who knows, but IMO Meghan is really trying to change, and if she and Harry marry I believe she knows that Hollywood attitudes and ways of doing things will have to disappear if she is to become a successful member of the BRF.

By the way, as far as the British tabloids are concerned when do any charities appear at the forefront when reporting on the younger senior royals. Harry's Invictus and Sentebale perhaps, but Heads Together is often full of stunts like the trios foot race, and all of Kate's engagements invariably concentrate on her hair and clothing. There are sometimes several paragraphs on that and a couple of little vignettes inserted about comments she made to people. The charity seems to limp in  last.

[Lady Deb]

Even just thinking lightly about it, from The Queen, Princess Ann to Kate, there's more focus about 'what she wore' than the actual charity. I mean, magazines and books are printed about Royal Fashion over the actual charity that they were attending when the outfit was worn.

Off topic for this section, however, I'm glad to see that The Sun with their irresponsible reporting has now issued an apology to Meghan and Harry.

[Curryong]

Miss Meghan Markle - An Apology

That article was completely unacceptable, and I'm glad to see KP following through with complaints to the tribunal. This sort of thing was what was probably referred to in the KP November statement as nightly legal battles.

[Yale]

Miss Meghan Markle - An Apology

That article was completely unacceptable, and I'm glad to see KP following through with complaints to the tribunal. This sort of thing was what was probably referred to in the KP November statement as nightly legal battles.

I read the apology but nothing about this being taken to court?? WOW! If he took this to court, WOW! Harry is not playing around!! Is that why this apology was issued  4 and half months too late?


AGAIN..... DID HARRY TAKE LEGAL ACTION OF SOME SORT IN BRITAIN??

[ElBeJay]

Thanks @LadyDeb for your thoughts. As always, these are my thoughts and variety is the spice of life.  So if you enjoy reading The Tig, by all means please continue reading. As I said, it not my cup of tea.

I don't think I'm explaining the self promotion vs just promotion concept very well.  I'll see if I can give an example illustrating the difference. There is difference between me saying saying ''You know, I go yearly to Uganda with the ACP to run a medical clinic for diabetics.' and 'You know, the ACP runs clinics in Uganda for diabetics on a yearly basis and I go every year.'  The main emphasis in each statement different, even if it's subtle. The first one is on the speaker and the second is on the charity. Meghan does the first. Said bluntly, she publicises her connection with the charity over the charity itself. If you are looking for an example of the second, take a look at Emma Watson's personal IG, she does an excellent job of highlighting her causes without emphasising herself over her charities. Regardless, senior royals in the BRF don't emphasise themselves over the charity. Prince Harry doesn't do it with his private charity Sentebale, his conservation work, or with Invictus Games.  I think this a better explanation than my last.

As to comparing this to changing skills sets, this is personality issue, not a learned skill, so it would be very hard to change (but not impossible). Most people who only self promote without promoting others have a underlying craving for limelight which you don't get when you are promoting something or someone else, since the emphasis is either shared or on the other entity and not yourself.  (This isn't up for debate BTW, there is loads of research stating this exact thing.)

As for the 'How to be both' article...I only read it once, but the impression of left me with "Wow, she sounds really narcissistic.' but I'll reread it and see if I can't be more specific about why I think that.

Thanks again for your thoughts.

[Curryong]

^ With regard to the Sun apology. KP would have lodged a complaint with the Independent Press Standards Organisation of Great Britain. This may or may not have come after protracted legal negotiations with the Sun regarding Meghan being labelled as a porn star by the newspaper. The Sun may, who knows, have stood on its hind legs at first and argued that what it printed was 'in the public interest'. It clearly wasn't and so KP may well have reached an impasse and decided to lodge a complaint rather than sue. Both processes are lengthy.

The Independent Press Standards Association (IPSO) is a voluntary and independent body that regulates the content of all major British newspapers and magazines (print media.) It is chaired by Sir Alan Moses. IPSO doesn't regulate websites like PornHub or anything on the Internet which is why KP's target was the Sun. All major newspaper publishers are associated with IPSO and it has the power to order front page apologies, which the Sun duly printed.

[ElBeJay]

@Curryong, you are right about the Heads Together. It has had no direction (until possibly recently), so that all the press had to go on was what little info the campaign gave them.  In the world of mental health, the whole thing is considered all fluff and no substance. I'm going to end my discussion of it here since I don't want to get off topic in this forum.

As for Meghan, it's the amount of change in the time period that bothers me. Up until she met prince Harry, she gave out a consistent message about who and what she was. She met prince Harry and all of a sudden she is changing/whitewashing her image to be almost a 180 degrees version of herself. And again, in healthy relationships, both partners usually give up something or some parts of themselves to the relationship, but usually not this much.

BTW, I don't think she's making these changes because she's some sort of scheming jade. I do think she's impulsive and reflex-ive (like Harry) and that's what is driving it.  I also think they both think they love each other (which is good). Regardless, changing up/giving up *most* (not some but most) of who you are for someone else without some sort of reflection doesn't bode well for the future. Particularly, if she is doing all of the changing.

[sandy]

Kate waited 10 years for the ring and really did not pursue anything other than sporadic part time work with very flexible hours. At least Meghan has a career and did not drop everything to be at someone's beck and call the way Kate did.

[Yale]

What's really going on behind the royals' £20,000 hedge  | Daily Mail Online

[Maria5583]

First, I think that it's great that the Sun issued an apology. That story was hugely inappropriate. However, it is not surprising considering the nature of tabloids in the UK and the fact that Meghan is dating a prince. There was a lot of things that were written about the other girlfriends as well. Meghan is going to have to get used to it when dating a prince. I remember that when Kate was still dating William, the tabloids wrote nasty things about her and her family. But the DAY they announced that she had become engaged to William, the tone changed completely!

Meghan doesn't do much now much like Kate when she started dating William and during their entire courtship. Meghan is just maintaining her blog which isn't exactly high brow stimulating stuff. She is not promoting the new season of her show because she really can't. The media will more than likely ask her about Harry, as they have even asked her castmates. It's a unfortunate but she can't do much. So what is she doing, holing up in London with Harry and going on vacations. Hardly, a basis for a long term relationship in the public. But that is exactly what Kate did and got criticized for. I see no difference between the two. Meghan may have had a career and worked her way up, which really seems like she did. However, now she has limitations and she has to either come to terms or leave. However, she is doing nothing, which makes her utterly boring as Kate. :coy: There is no difference.

[Curryong]

Hi Maria,
I see you haven't been exploring the wider Internet, Twitter, Tumblrs, blogs etc. As a longtime Royal watcher, decades really, I can tell you that what Meghan has gone through since Camilla T broke the news last November is worse, much much worse than anything Kate, Chelsy or Cressida Bonas ever suffered. There have been two main Twitter witches who've been spreading stuff from their blogs about Meghan and it is truly vulgar, gross, disgusting stuff that I wouldn't repeat and that would have any journalist in Britain sued for libel if it appeared in a UK newspaper.

Meghan is staying in London with Harry at Nott Cott because her series Suits is on hiatus. She doesn't start filming again until late March or April, I believe. She has no clothing collection to bring out for Reitman's until next year, and while she is staying with Harry Meghan's been holding fire on all her social media, posting very little.

This may or may not mean she and Harry are preparing for the next stage of their relationship, as previously she was very active on The Tig, the blog that is believed to earn her about £100,000 a year in cash and kind. (She's believed to get about $75,000 for every episode of Suits in which she appears so she earns quite a large sum of money each year.)

She therefore is nothing like Kate, who when she was dating William, barely had a job of any kind and just waited for the ring for almost a decade. I think it's Harry who is setting the agenda of the couple barely being seen in public. He is very wary of paps and the media in general.

Meghan has been in India for a short charity visit but her life has scarcely consisted of vacations. I have serious doubts that Meghan was with him in Norway as the press said, and there are rumours of them going to Verbier for skiing around Valentine's Day but that's just tabloid talk. It may not come to pass.

At the moment they are chilling at KP and getting used to living together, which is necessary to sustain any relationship. Harry will unveil her to the public and appear with her at different events when he's good and ready, I am sure.

[Yale]

First, I think that it's great that the Sun issued an apology. That story was hugely inappropriate. However, it is not surprising considering the nature of tabloids in the UK and the fact that Meghan is dating a prince. There was a lot of things that were written about the other girlfriends as well. Meghan is going to have to get used to it when dating a prince. I remember that when Kate was still dating William, the tabloids wrote nasty things about her and her family. But the DAY they announced that she had become engaged to William, the tone changed completely!

Meghan doesn't do much now much like Kate when she started dating William and during their entire courtship. Meghan is just maintaining her blog which isn't exactly high brow stimulating stuff. She is not promoting the new season of her show because she really can't. The media will more than likely ask her about Harry, as they have even asked her castmates. It's a unfortunate but she can't do much. So what is she doing, holing up in London with Harry and going on vacations. Hardly, a basis for a long term relationship in the public. But that is exactly what Kate did and got criticized for. I see no difference between the two. Meghan may have had a career and worked her way up, which really seems like she did. However, now she has limitations and she has to either come to terms or leave. However, she is doing nothing, which makes her utterly boring as Kate. :coy: There is no difference.

Curryong,

I don't see why you would have any reason to doubt they were in vacation in Norway together.  We will never get that kind of confirmation besides it's none of our business.  Secondly, someone tweeted that they saw Harry on a Nowegian flight and he and Meghan feel off the radar for several days during that period.

But you are however right about Kate and Meghan.  Meghan's networth  is 7 million estimated and I think it might be more.  She earned that on her own.  Meghan has a successful career and a successful business woman.  Kate has never really had a job or career to speak of.  I think that was the major issue the Queen saw. I recall that she referred to the situation as the Kate problem because she had no professional career at all prior to her engagement to William.
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Quick, Harry, read this! It's Meghan's Valentine wish list | Daily Mail Online


These comments came from her Blog, "The Tig"  It cute!!  It's about Valentine's Day and an obvious hidden message for Harry, " Don't you forget Valentine's  Day"  LOL!

[Lady Deb]

Maria, there is a huge difference in how Meghan has been treated. She has been subjected to vile racist hatred! IMO, the way people have chosen to ignore or down play the racist abuse just shows the abundant  level of hate and evil in this world. Racial abuse should not have to be tolerated by anyone under any circumstance!

[Nightowl]

^ Megan came with baggage ... it seems when she hit the big time people who she wasn't nice with on her way up came poring online even her own sister ... that is cause of concern as I have seen the same thing as I said once before happen with Miranda Kerr when she first started dating Orlando and boy were those people right and did that end up in tears ... in this case though I am hopeful as Harry gets bored easily and tends to walk away when things gets serious ... she just hasn't made the mistake of asking things of him ... yet ... she knows she would be history if she did ...

Don't we the human race when in a relationship *all* come into that relationship with some type of baggage?  Nobody on this earth is free or innocent of making mistakes in their life, it is how we learn from them and how we handle them in the future.  This young lady seems like a hard working intelligent woman with a serious head on her shoulders as she grows and learns her way in this relationship.  Being someone who is involved in charities and wanting to help others that are less fortunate as PH is, they might have more in common then we the public know...after all we are not privy to their private life as much as some would like.

[Yale]

Valentine's Day is not celebrated in Britain is it?

I wonder what he got Meghan?

I am also curious about Harry's reaction or what it will be to American holidays like Thanksgiving?  We don't eat the healthiest things on that day. But it is so good!! If they marry or get engaged, they'll probably fly to the US for that since it's not celebrated in the UK.

What Meghan should do is take Harry to Georgia and Tennessee where her mother is from and let him experience the south  its food, and the accents! HAHAHA!!  :nod: It will be major culture shock I'm sure.

[Curryong]

I don't know what Harry bought Meghan. Flowers and perfume perhaps.Valentine's Day is celebrated in Britain and the Commonwealth and has been for hundreds of years. I knew someone who collected cards and she had two gorgeous handmade Valentines from the early 19th century. British people and Commonwealth citizens don't celebrate Thankgiving but Christmas in the UK and commonwealth is probably made more of than in the US because we also have Boxing Day as a holiday.

Harry has been to the US several times but I'm not sure whether he's tasted Southern food. Where did Guy and Lizzie Pelly marry? I'm sure it was down South somewhere. Harry and William attended. I'm sure he'd love to sample some southern hospitality and that will come, I'm sure.

[TLLK]

^ Megan came with baggage ... it seems when she hit the big time people who she wasn't nice with on her way up came poring online even her own sister ... that is cause of concern as I have seen the same thing as I said once before happen with Miranda Kerr when she first started dating Orlando and boy were those people right and did that end up in tears ... in this case though I am hopeful as Harry gets bored easily and tends to walk away when things gets serious ... she just hasn't made the mistake of asking things of him ... yet ... she knows she would be history if she did ...

Don't we the human race when in a relationship *all* come into that relationship with some type of baggage?  Nobody on this earth is free or innocent of making mistakes in their life, it is how we learn from them and how we handle them in the future.  This young lady seems like a hard working intelligent woman with a serious head on her shoulders as she grows and learns her way in this relationship.  Being someone who is involved in charities and wanting to help others that are less fortunate as PH is, they might have more in common then we the public know...after all we are not privy to their private life as much as some would like.

Nice to see you posting again @Nightowl
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I remember that when Kate was still dating William, the tabloids wrote nasty things about her and her family. But the DAY they announced that she had become engaged to William, the tone changed completely!

Like Kate there are remarks about her family, but there is also the shadow of racism that surfaced in those earlier articles which Kate and others have not had to deal with in the past.

[Eri]

Here we go ... everyone from Cressida to Kate even Flee for the very short amount of time she dated Harry got vile and abusive comments online ... welcome to the internet ... and Cressida and Kate  got "racist" comments too ... one was too middle class the other too posh and even got name called for how many times her mother had married ...

[Lady Deb]

Race and class are 2 completely different things. Meghan continues to be attacked for not being of the same race and socioeconomic class of Harry and his previous girlfriends.

[Yale]

Race and class are 2 completely different things. Meghan continues to be attacked for not being of the same race and socioeconomic class of Harry and his previous girlfriends.

I agree.  However, it's all a waste of time, effort, and energy.   Harry will tell everyone of them to gotta hell and he'll still marry her!

[TLLK]

Here we go ... everyone from Cressida to Kate even Flee for the very short amount of time she dated Harry got vile and abusive comments online ... welcome to the internet ... and Cressida and Kate  got "racist" comments too ... one was too middle class the other too posh and even got name called for how many times her mother had married ...

I don't recall too many comments about Kate's English heritage or her Caucasian race, however there were plenty regarding her middle class upbringing and her mother's working class background.

[Eri]

^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it  :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...

[Yale]

^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it  :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...

Well,  write to Harry and tell him this and see if it matters.

[vlaxym]

^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it  :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...

For someone so indifferent to Harry you seem to care an awful lot about him. Let them be. He's clearly head over heels and she seems to be too. If she makes him happy she's right to him.

[SueElen]

The fact is that she remodeled her face, whitewashed her past and now waits for the ring. She try to steal the attention during Bafta by publishing in ig, no less than her childish shoes...

That gives me impression that if she ever marry Harry, all attention must be on her or she will act as same as during Carebean tour.. ME,, ME, ME...