A thread to continue the discussion of the Markle family
Samantha has taken yet another turn and started blasting her half-sister again.So she certainly hasn't been paid off!
'Disgrace to the family' 'Sorry for Archie with a mother like that!' And 'Archie's christening was faked!' Know where she got that last little titbit from, lol. There's a particularly virulent anti-Meghan hating tarot reader on the internet that espouses the theory that the christening etc was faked, and she's not the only one. We are in la la land here, folks! And this tarot reader (who has thousands of followers) boasts that she's been in regular communication on Twitter with Samantha. They've both been filling each other with poison, obviously!
Meghan Markle?s half-sister Samantha says Meghan faked Archie?s christening; is a ?disgrace? (https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/the-duchess-of-sussexs-halfsister-says-meghan-faked-archies-christening/news-story/c9f30e7f077df45378652a145e42b69c)
I think that even with some kind of pay off, Samanth is so volatile thtat she wont abide by agreements. She
Quote from: Curryong on August 03, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
Samantha has taken yet another turn and started blasting her half-sister again.So she certainly hasn't been paid off!
'Disgrace to the family' 'Sorry for Archie with a mother like that!' And 'Archie's christening was faked!' Know where she got that last little titbit from, lol. There's a particularly virulent anti-Meghan hating tarot reader on the internet that espouses the theory that the christening etc was faked, and she's not the only one. We are in la la land here, folks! And this tarot reader (who has thousands of followers) boasts that she's been in regular communication on Twitter with Samantha. They've both been filling each other with poison, obviously!
Meghan Markle?s half-sister Samantha says Meghan faked Archie?s christening; is a ?disgrace? (https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/the-duchess-of-sussexs-halfsister-says-meghan-faked-archies-christening/news-story/c9f30e7f077df45378652a145e42b69c)
Wow! That's quite a claim. Have to agree
@Curryong that she's probably not bound to a payoff/NDA.
Ithink it is odd that she had shut up for a few months.. so maybe there was some kind of payment.. but she broke with the agreement. I have always felt that her issues iwht Meghan are so strong that she can't stop herself from talking even if she knows it would be to her advantage to say nothing..
Little Archie is Samantha's nephew. Certainly she should have compassion for the child and thinks before she trashes his parents.
Quote from: sandy on August 03, 2019, 08:05:30 PM
Little Archie is Samantha's nephew. Certainly she should have compassion for the child and thinks before she trashes his parents.
She doesn't care. She clearly can't stand Meghan... and I think she will always be a thron in her side...
Samantha Markel's behavior is what I would expect from someone who is not stable.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on August 03, 2019, 08:46:49 PM
Samantha Markel's behavior is what I would expect from someone who is not stable.
True, I thought that she'd maybe been paid off to stay silent.. but I felt sure that she would not be able to stick with it...
I think people who have a vested financial interest in keeping up the h**red of Meghan on social media like that particular tarot reader I mentioned, have been communicating with Samantha and are egging her on. Not that I think she needs much encouragement to bag her sister. But to see what she did in this latest attack, especially about her nephew, is just appalling in my view.
What are these tarot card readers you all are talking about? I have never heard of them....I have heard of tarot cards yet never knew much about them......is someone drinking to much wine here or what.... :blink:
There are online tarot readers and psychics offering their services all over the Internet, hundreds of them. Several of them, about a dozen or more, IMO, also offer their opinion on Meghan free gratis, as a draw to those who don't like her to read these opinions, (which they present as legit tarot readings,) so these readers can also subscribe to their channel and buy tarot readings for themselves from them, along with other celebrity readings, psychic readings, and sometimes spells and incantations etc.
I have been interested in astrology and tarot for decades (and have done readings for friends, drawn charts etc) and so see the negative readers as well as the positive ones, who have sometimes reproved the others, who have thousands of followers, calling them 'tabloid tarot readers'. But that's what some are out there for, IMO, to draw into the deep well of Meghan h*ters and make money for their sites at the same time.
Quote from: Curryong on August 04, 2019, 12:46:39 AM
I think people who have a vested financial interest in keeping up the h**red of Meghan on social media like that particular tarot reader I mentioned, have been communicating with Samantha and are egging her on. Not that I think she needs much encouragement to bag her sister. But to see what she did in this latest attack, especially about her nephew, is just appalling in my view.
I dont think she needs any encouragement. Buying her off was a possibility, and it may have queittened her for a couple of months.. but I think her issues iwht Meg are such that she isn't going to stop being angry wit her and probably even if she did agree and stuck with it, to stop public attacks on Meg, she would continue to bash her in private. And clearly, if she has been bought off, it did not last for long. Meg can just expect this from her sister and possibly her brother and her father is not much help and has clearly now been blanked by her..
Quote from: amabel on August 03, 2019, 09:31:54 PM
True, I thought that she'd maybe been paid off to stay silent.. but I felt sure that she would not be able to stick with it...
...and, sadly, you were right.
well I do get some predictions right..>!
Samantha is very toxic!
But she always has been. When I first heard about Meghan I could see that the family were likely to be an ongoing embarrassment..and I dd not think that Samantha at least could be persuaded to go silent..
Since she put herself out there and can't stay quiet, she is now dealing with public scrutiny. I can just imagine what it must be like for someone who may already have insecurities or self esteem issues (if she has them), but of course she has only herself to blame.
this obsession is not good for Samantha's health. She needs to go in for meditation and stop fixating on her sister.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on August 06, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
Since she put herself out there and can't stay quiet, she is now dealing with public scrutiny. I can just imagine what it must be like for someone who may already have insecurities or self esteem issues (if she has them), but of course she has only herself to blame.
I don't see that it bohers her.. She is angry with Meg, she is ill and struggling iwht her own health problems.. and I don't think she cares if other people disapprove of her...
I don't get why she is "angry" with Meg. She apparently is "angry" with her own children but Meghan is famous so she can get attention herself and get paid for it. She is encouraged by the media to stir up drama and it sells papers. But I think after a while, the interest will diminish in Samantha especially if she says the same thing. It was not as if she and Meghan were raised together. She was way older when Meghan was born and they had different mothers. She disparaged Doria as well. And Sam does not get along with her own mother so I don't think she is one to get preachy about family values.
Quote from: sandy on August 07, 2019, 01:47:12 PM
I don't get why she is "angry" with Meg. She apparently is "angry" with her own children but Meghan is famous so she can get attention herself and get paid for it. She is encouraged by the media to stir up drama and it sells papers. But I think after a while, the interest will diminish in Samantha especially if she says the same thing. It was not as if she and Meghan were raised together. She was way older when Meghan was born and they had different mothers. She disparaged Doria as well. And Sam does not get along with her own mother so I don't think she is one to get preachy about family values.
I agree with all t hat you have said, Sandy. I also think that there must have been all sorts of family drama that happened way before the world knew about Meghan. It is also possible that her illness, which is a lifetime sentence, has made her angry at everything and Meghan is only the current target.
Samantha obviously has had issues with family members for years. Her MS has probably ratcheted and exacerbated the problems though.
Quote from: TLLK on August 07, 2019, 02:24:24 PM
Samantha obviously has had issues with family members for years. Her MS has probably ratcheted and exacerbated the problems though.
Yes, I think so, too. It's amazing to hear at the drama and toxic relationships some families have. I wouldn't want to speculate about the issues in the Markel family, but clearly there are some. Meanwhile, Meghan's mother is just the opposite.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on August 08, 2019, 04:09:55 AM
Yes, I think so, too. It's amazing to hear at the drama and toxic relationships some families have. I wouldn't want to speculate about the issues in the Markel family, but clearly there are some. Meanwhile, Meghan's mother is just the opposite.
True it seems like the Markel side of the family are a difficult bunch.. and Doria is a nice lady... and Meg can rely on her. But the Markles are not cotent to keep their rowing iwhtin the family
Quote from: amabel on August 08, 2019, 07:01:03 AM
True it seems like the Markel side of the family are a difficult bunch.. and Doria is a nice lady... and Meg can rely on her. But the Markles are not cotent to keep their rowing iwhtin the family
I heard that Harry and Meghan are looking to purchase a bolthole in the USA - it would be so nice for her to see her mother more often.
I don't think they will move here. Maybe visit there only since there are security issues and her mother can travel to the UK.
Quote from: sandy on August 10, 2019, 01:41:25 AM
I don't think they will move here. Maybe visit there only since there are security issues and her mother can travel to the UK.
No, quite right. They are working members of the RF and naturally will live in the UK. But it would be nice for them to have a place to visit near her mother. Their children (because he has said they want two children) can benefit from a closeness with her mother in addition to the one they will have with Harry's family. They are highly unlikely to ever have a relationship with the rest of her family, but if they are there often enough may have an opportunity to meet them. (That is, if the Markles learn what they must do and not do to make that happen.)
I think that sship has sailed. IT was pretty clear at Archie's birth that Thomas M is now out of the picture -
Nobody from the Markle's or Ragland's will be in that picture, only Doria.
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"I paid every penny of her tuition and I have the bank statements to prove it.
I paid for her trips to Spain and England. I paid for her internship in Argentina."
Thomas Markle asks: Why can't I meet Archie? Meghan Markle's father has stayed silent since she gave birth hoping, in his own words, that becoming a mother would 'mellow' her and they could heal their rift. Now in frustration, he speaks out
By Caroline Graham In Rosarito, Mexico For The Mail On Sunday - August 31st 2019, 10:00:04 pm
In Rosarito, Mexico, Thomas Markle is speaking out for the first time since Archie's birth because he feels he is being unfairly vilified and cut out of his grandson's life by Harry and Meghan.
Thomas Markle asks: Why can't I meet Archie? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7414917/Thomas-Markle-asks-meet-Archie.html)
The war is on, she says, he says he paid everything. The only option for this case to rest is a statement from Northwestern University.
In all likelihood he paid. she's already said he paid for her private school
Need he ask? He willingly rushed to the media and got paid for complaining about his famous child. He has not seen any of his other grandchildren BTW. This man seems to get free passes, I think it wrong on many levels to earn money by running to the media and complaining about a daughter. He is not going to rest any case he is on easy street and the money keeps coming in the next media target comes along. Northwestern should laugh in his face if he asks for a "Statement." I used to like Thomas but no more, he is in effect getting the money back he spent on her by complaining publicly to Piers et al. HE also of his own volition decided to defray costs of Meghan's education. Before University, parents generally pay for elementary and high school. Though students can get scholarships to COllege and help defray costs by working. He would be considered neglectful if he did not pay for elementary and high schools.
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Quote from: wannable on September 01, 2019, 03:08:30 PM
The war is on, she says, he says he paid everything. The only option for this case to rest is a statement from Northwestern University.
What war> IMO since he ran to the press for money he has no leg to stand on. He has no options but to continue to collect money until the media get sick of him.
^ Sandy it says:
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Mr. Markle neither asked for nor received any payment for this article.
@dianab hence IMO the war to end all wars is a statement from NWU. If not, Meghan shouldn't do any more speeches to young women about paying their way to UNI as she allegedly said she did, when her daddy is speaking out worldwide that he has the receipts of payment.
Quote from: dianab on September 01, 2019, 03:11:42 PM
In all likelihood he paid. she's already said he paid for her private school
I should say he helped out. He sent her to a private school, which was generous.. so its likely he did assist her with money for her college years. He's not a wonderful father but I think he did his best when younger.. Meg and H could have at least visited him during their courtship or engagement and it appears they didn't. After all the hopping over to the US to visit, Harry could have made one tirp to Mexico to see his ladyfirends father...
Meghan did work and did get scholarships in addition to her father paying her money he won from that lottery to get her through school. If her father wants to run to the media, maybe he can collect all the money he paid for her education. Daddy IMO is not doing himself any favors and he does not seem to me to be remotely a model parent. What sort of person goes to the media to make money off a famous daughter? To me that is really low. Maybe he can count the money he spent on NOrthwestern and maybe the money Piers pays him will soon pay for the money he spent on her. He did of his own free will agree to pay. I don't get why he's surprised he does nor see Archie or any of his other grandchildren. This man is no victim. and There is no "war." He lost before the war started.
Imagine if Kate said one thing, and a family member says wrong, liar or an antonym to whatever Kate says. This would cause inches of articles, mistrust in the minds of the public.
I feel for both T and M, and since this has gone sour with no repair, NWU is the only one who can end it, and one of the both will be silenced in this issue forever.
@sandy he probably needs the money now of what he says he paid (Uni, Spain, England, Internship Argentina), including her first Jamaica wedding. :shrug:
Quote from: amabel on September 01, 2019, 03:20:33 PM
I should say he helped out. He sent her to a private school, which was generous.. so its likely he did assist her with money for her college years. He's not a wonderful father but I think he did his best when younger.. Meg and H could have at least visited him during their courtship or engagement and it appears they didn't. After all the hopping over to the US to visit, Harry could have made one tirp to Mexico to see his ladyfirends father...
I think Thomas fell under the influence of Samantha who was collecting money from the media already.
Parents by the millions send their children to private school.
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Quote from: wannable on September 01, 2019, 03:23:35 PM
Imagine if Kate said one thing, and a family member says wrong, liar or an antonym to whatever Kate says. This would cause inches of articles, mistrust in the minds of the public.
I feel for both T and M, and since this has gone sour with no repair, NWU is the only one who can end it, and one of the both will be silenced in this issue forever.
Kate has nothing to do with this. Kate's family are completely different and the subjects of other threads.
Tom ruined it by going to the media.
True, but he probably and likely at his age and location location location needs the moneys back. This is wild guessing but putting 1+1 Rosarito is precisely down the drain in worst spots in earth.
He supposedly had residuals from his TV work. What did he do with all his money. His son claims he uses drugs. HE may also have tax issues.
Quote from: amabel on September 01, 2019, 03:20:33 PM
I should say he helped out. He sent her to a private school, which was generous.. so its likely he did assist her with money for her college years. He's not a wonderful father but I think he did his best when younger.. Meg and H could have at least visited him during their courtship or engagement and it appears they didn't. After all the hopping over to the US to visit, Harry could have made one tirp to Mexico to see his ladyfirends father...
for all meghan said about him for years (and including her most recent comment in vogue) i think he was a wonderful father... a fair better parent than charles, mark dyer and tiggy were to harry...
Mark Dyer did not go to the media and trash Harry. Though I am not a fan of his I give him that. Tiggy had her own issues and Prince CHarles never went to the media to trash Harry.
I think it low of a parent to do this especially to get money out of it. I think this was the deal breaker for any possible reconciliation between Meghan and her father.
we know harry used drugs and meghan had drugs at her 1srt wedding... harry even state in his podcast that william begged him to get help... his son said thommas won in lottery and helped his children... and he said he's as to prove he paid for her college
i saw many times penny junor and ingrid seward being snarky about harry... and they are dear friends of charles... when harry had his drug scandal they blamed harry for bringing bad pr to his devoted and busy father.... they liked to talk about the supposed hewitt paternity... and charles never stopped them
according to many sources it was bolland who leaked drug scandal to press and then said charles took him to rehab later come out it was eton's headmaster who was there for harry
according to reports mark dyer was in parties that harry did drugs
it's sad what's going on between meghan and thomas because according to herself he gave her a great and healthy upbringing
Quote from: wannable on September 01, 2019, 03:19:21 PM
^ Sandy it says:
@dianab hence IMO the war to end all wars is a statement from NWU. If not, Meghan shouldn't do any more speeches to young women about paying their way to UNI as she allegedly said she did, when her daddy is speaking out worldwide that he has the receipts of payment.
He might be able to produce some receipts paid to Kappa Kappa Gamma as well to cover her membership dues and housing at the sorority house. As Meghan was recruitment chair, she'd have been required to live in.
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Quote from: wannable on September 01, 2019, 03:26:44 PM
True, but he probably and likely at his age and location location location needs the moneys back. This is wild guessing but putting 1+1 Rosarito is precisely down the drain in worst spots in earth.
Si es verdad!!!
Even if Meghan chooses to not have her father meet Archie, there will be nothing to stop him from going and meeting his grandfather (if he's still alive) when he is eighteen. :shrug:
I think Thomas will see Archie and I hope his other less famous grandchildren down the road. He has other grandchildren not just Archie. It took a few years for Angelina and Jon Voigt to reconcile but they did. This arguably was worse than the Markle situation.
Quote from: dianab on September 01, 2019, 03:37:51 PM
we know harry used drugs and meghan had drugs at her 1srt wedding... harry even state in his podcast that william begged him to get help... his son said thommas won in lottery and helped his children... and he said he's as to prove he paid for her college
i saw many times penny junor and ingrid seward being snarky about harry... and they are dear friends of charles... when harry had his drug scandal they blamed harry for bringing bad pr to his devoted and busy father.... they liked to talk about the supposed hewitt paternity... and charles never stopped them
according to many sources it was bolland who leaked drug scandal to press and then said charles took him to rehab later come out it was eton's headmaster who was there for harry
according to reports mark dyer was in parties that harry did drugs
it's sad what's going on between meghan and thomas because according to herself he gave her a great and healthy upbringing
We know? I don't "know" such a thing. The marijuana bags were given out at the wedding no proof she is a user of it or is an addict. some of the stories about her emerged out of blogs and sites designed to malign her and Harry.
William told Harry to get help about his mourning for his mother. Harry said so. William I think has his own issues but that's another thread. I find it absurd for Will to advise Harry since there are many pictures of drunken William stumbling out of clubs and looking really worse for wear.
Charles was accused of using his sons to make himself look good. The "drugs" story proved to be spun to try to help Charles' image.
Harry is not an addict nor an alcoholic. I would say he used poor judgment but Dyer and Tiggy were not very good guides.
The Good Prince Bad Prince stories have been out for decades.
Seward and Junor spread poison about their mother which is not a "virtuous" thing to do.
harry said he led a unhealthy lifestyle... for obvious reasons he just mentioned alcohol instead of other things and he said william begged him to get help. he knows best what's his relationship with william was & is and according to him, william didnt seem absurd...
it was her (1rst) wedding, no doubt she knows and approved what was going on there, no evidence she didnt use it or was against it. according to all accounts she controlled everything in her 2nd wedding and even had her friend jessica to help her out.
meghan and harry are humans, unflattering stories about them arent surreal stuff... if it was william and kate and that marijuana bags rumour i'm sure there wouldnt to be so much doubt about that...
Quoteharry said he led a unhealthy lifestyle... for obvious reasons he just mentioned alcohol instead of other things and he said william begged him to get help. he knows best what's his relationship with william was & is and according to him, william didnt seem absurd...
I never had the feeling that Harry was into hardcore drugs though no doubt he like many young people has been in situations at some point in his lifetime were it was being openly used. AFAIK it appears that family and friends were becoming concerned about Harry's behavior, moods, words etc..to the point where William intervened and asked him to consider seeking help. I wouldn't be surprised if Charles, Camilla, Zara etc...and a few friends said something too.
I'm just glad for Harry's sake that he did choose to get some help with the issues he was dealing with at the time and that he was comfortable enough to share about his experience. :)
Harry said he had problems mourning and speaking of his mother after she died. This was in his interview. I think he was introduced to his Camilla a little too quickly. And more time should have been spent with Harry by his surviving parent and his grandparents.
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Quote from: dianab on September 01, 2019, 08:20:35 PM
harry said he led a unhealthy lifestyle... for obvious reasons he just mentioned alcohol instead of other things and he said william begged him to get help. he knows best what's his relationship with william was & is and according to him, william didnt seem absurd...
it was her (1rst) wedding, no doubt she knows and approved what was going on there, no evidence she didnt use it or was against it. according to all accounts she controlled everything in her 2nd wedding and even had her friend jessica to help her out.
meghan and harry are humans, unflattering stories about them arent surreal stuff... if it was william and kate and that marijuana bags rumour i'm sure there wouldnt to be so much doubt about that...
I heard the interviews it was about his mourning. William did not drink milkshakes on his night out it is curious if he tried to advise Harry about drinking when he did it himself.
Kate and William have their separate threads.
What is Thomas end game anyway?
Meghan won't speak to him, and he can't do anything about it. He should just let things be for a while. Let things cool.
I agree. He should stay away from the media. I think he was too much influenced by Samantha which to me is unfortunate.
Now, how any of this is Samanthas business is beyond me.
She was going to the media and complaining about her sister while Meghan and Harry were dating. Tom apparently was close to Sam and she advised him to go to the media. She was getting paid to do interviews and he got money for it too.
They should be happy with their new income and leave H&M alone for a while. He's not going to be seeing his grand child if he keeps up like this. He needs to give it time.
Both Thomas and Samantha have made money off Meghan since her marriage to Harry, Samantha quite a lot of money, apparently. And Thomas has gone to the tabloids and online media sites and spilled what he said to Harry on phone calls, what his daughter wrote to him and his replies etc. why do this if you want a relationship with your daughter and son in law? Family relationships are sometimes very complex, very difficult. And the Markles are obviously a quarrelsome clan.
There has been absolutely no information spilt about relationships within this family other than what has been disclosed by Thomas Snr, Thomas Jnr and Samantha. And it has mostly been disclosed for money. That's a fact!
If family relationships mean so much to Tom Markle snr perhaps he should start with reuniting with the only son he's been estranged from for years. And he has five other grandchildren besides Archie. He's never met two of them and the other three he hasn't seen for years.
It seems to me that the Royal connection with one grandchild is the one that matters to Tom. If he met Archie a couple of times he could then talk to the British tabloids (and anyone else who wants to pay) all about it for years to come. He and his two older children don't know how to shut up!
Having blabbing relatives suck! It's even worse when it's your own father. Him not seeing his other grandchildren says it all really.
As for paying for Meghan's university years, who knows, Thomas may have helped to pay. However, it's remarkable that all these receipts for the NW fees etc that he and Samantha say he has tucked away have never seen the light.
You would have thought that if it was a point of honour to him that he had paid for all of it, then he would have produced the proof of this before now. And Samantha said she would show them in the book she was going to write (and the TRUTH would be told, showing Meghan to be a liar) which was to be published in two parts in April and August. No book has yet appeared.
I'd say it would be surprising if he still had all the receipts. He has clearly had to move and downsize.. and probably got rid of things like that. It didn't mean that he didn't pay or help to pay for Meg's education.
Quote from: amabel on September 02, 2019, 07:02:38 AM
I'd say it would be surprising if he still had all the receipts. He has clearly had to move and downsize.. and probably got rid of things like that. It didn't mean that he didn't pay or help to pay for Meg's education.
Perhaps so, and he probably did help to pay for part of Meghan's education. However, he and Samantha have consistently stated in this debate that he 'has the receipts to prove it!' These receipts or indeed any documentation showing that he paid anything has never been produced. Samantha has stated that she would 'prove it' in her book. Same thing. No book, no receipts.
so? He sent her to private school, so I think if he had the money he problaby also helped with her college expenses. He may not be the worlds' greatest dad but I think when he was in funds, he was reasonably generous with his money. Just because he has probably lost or thrown out the receipts.. does not mean that he did nto have them.
Why keep saying he can produce them then?
Quote from: Curryong on September 02, 2019, 09:21:46 AM
Why keep saying he can produce them then?
Probably if push comes to shove, (not that it is all that likely that Meghan will demand he proves it).. he reckons he can prove that he paid toward her tuition or expenses. Probalby there are college records
What would be the point of his producing receipts to get something on his daughter. THis makes no sense to me since he at the time agreed to pay the bills. It is true that she had some scholarships and worked during her University years. It seems to me rather a cheap thing for him to do. After a parent agrees to foot the bills produces them years later as evidence like he is on trial or it is a Government investigation.. I don't get the point of it. Except perhaps for him to earn more money from the media.
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Quote from: amabel on September 02, 2019, 07:54:29 AM
so? He sent her to private school, so I think if he had the money he problaby also helped with her college expenses. He may not be the worlds' greatest dad but I think when he was in funds, he was reasonably generous with his money. Just because he has probably lost or thrown out the receipts.. does not mean that he did nto have them.
Why does he have to produce receipts? He agreed to pay for the University with supposedly lottery money. Many many parents send their children to private school, when she was in high school she could hardly pay the tuition herself being a minor.
Quote from: sandy on September 02, 2019, 12:31:09 PM
What would be the point of his producing receipts. THis makes no sense to me since he at the time agreed to pay the bills. It is true that she had some scholarships and worked during her University years. It seems to me rather a cheap thing for him to do. After a parent agrees to foot the bills produces them years later as evidence like he is on trial or it is a Government investigation.. I don't get the point of it. Except perhaps for him to earn more money from the media.
the point would be, that Meghan gave the impression that she paid for all her college life.. herself. If he helped out, then she should in fairness give him the credit for what he did...
It is true that she supported her self with work during University and apparently had some scholarship. He had won some lottery money apparently for her University Money but she still needed to supplement this apparently. But his going to the media to "get something" on Meghan and getting paid for it I think is really a bit over the top. He needs to back off from the media.
Quote from: sandy on September 02, 2019, 12:37:46 PM
It is true that she supported her self with work during University and apparently had some scholarship. He had won some lottery money apparently for her University Money but she still needed to supplement this apparently. But his going to the media to "get something" on Meghan and getting paid for it I think is really a bit over the top. He needs to back off from the media.
I don't think he wil any more than her sister and brother will. And if the man paid for her private school, he was being a good father and if he continued to help her at University.. he was still trying to help her. So even if she's not on the best of terms with him, she could give him credit for what he did.
She was his daughter, parents are obligated to help their children and pay tuitions as they grew up. And many parents save up to get their children to private school. If he loves her he would keep away from the media and get money from them.
Quote from: sandy on September 02, 2019, 12:44:13 PM
She was his daughter, parents are obligated to help their children and pay tuitions as they grew up. And many parents save up to get their children to private school. If he loves her he would keep away from the media and get money from them.
No they're not. There are public schools and he could have let her go to one. He could have left her pay her onw way in College as he seems ot have had money problems by then. And I presume you mean he should NOT get money from the meida.. but according to the Mail he was not paid for his latest interview.
Parents feel obligated to get their children the best education they can. Parents do save up for private school for their children and it is not exactly unheard of for parents to do it. Supposedly he won the lottery and he had money to spend then.
Selling out his daughter for money by complaining to her to the media and getting paid for it to me is loathsome. He could get a job and earn money without doing this. People manage to earn a living without getting paid by the media to complain about a famous child. He clearly has gotten paid, Piers Morgan said he has gotten money.
He wasn't paid for his latest interview,. He is an elderly man in poor health. How is he supposed to "get a job and earn money"?
It's a never ending soap opera the Sussex's will have to live by. Today the Sun and DM have an update, MM's friends say she will never ever let her father meet or be in contact with Harry, Meghan and Archie.
The payments will always be a doubt if Thomas or the NWU do not produce the receipts, bank statements, anything that can give that issue an end.
The usual "friends say" by the DM an Sun. No names of course and MEghan never made any public statements about her father. I think Thomas should back off and maybe down the road they can all reconcile.
Quote from: amabel on September 02, 2019, 01:20:34 PM
He wasn't paid for his latest interview,. He is an elderly man in poor health. How is he supposed to "get a job and earn money"?
How on earth is it known he was not paid. He could have amassed quite a lot of money by now. Piers said he was paid. Well look for a job that would bring in money instead of making money off disparaging his daughter would be an answer. He does have experience in TV work.
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Quote from: amabel on September 02, 2019, 01:20:34 PM
He wasn't paid for his latest interview,. He is an elderly man in poor health. How is he supposed to "get a job and earn money"?
By looking for a job, he has tv experience. He has the energy to trot to TV studios and confess all to Piers Morgan. He has enough energy for that and keep on going to the media about his daughter.
Quote from: sandy on September 02, 2019, 03:03:51 PM
The usual "friends say" by the DM an Sun. No names of course and MEghan never made any public statements about her father. I think Thomas should back off and maybe down the road they can all reconcile.
How on earth is it known he was not paid. He could have amassed quite a lot of money by now. Piers said he was paid. Well look for a job that would bring in money instead of making money off disparaging his daughter would be an answer. He does have experience in TV work.
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By looking for a job, he has tv experience. He has the energy to trot to TV studios and confess all to Piers Morgan. He has enough energy for that and keep on going to the media about his daughter.
Well let me just say it again He is an elderly man with heart problems. He si not likely to get another job.. He was a lighting director.. I should not think that tehre are many such jobs in Mexcio even if he weren't in poor health
As for his being paid, have you read the interview? It states clearly that he did not ask for money and was not paid.
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Quote from: wannable on September 02, 2019, 01:24:23 PM
It's a never ending soap opera the Sussex's will have to live by. Today the Sun and DM have an update, MM's friends say she will never ever let her father meet or be in contact with Harry, Meghan and Archie.
The payments will always be a doubt if Thomas or the NWU do not produce the receipts, bank statements, anything that can give that issue an end.
Probalby she wont..
So then it's OK for him to make money by complaining about his daughter?
He supposedly got residuals from his TV work, did he squander the moneY? Or does he owe money to the IRS.
His health condition is unknown. Apparently he does not listen to doctors since he eats junk food. Piers said he was paid. Is Piers lying?
The issue can end when Tom can stay away from the press. What would happen to Meghan if he "finds" the recepts. WIll it become an Inquisition or something? Nothing can be done to her. What is the point
Quote from: amabel on September 02, 2019, 12:34:03 PM
the point would be, that Meghan gave the impression that she paid for all her college life.. herself. If he helped out, then she should in fairness give him the credit for what he did...
Meghan wanted to participate in sorority life which probably required some help from her father. I don't know if Doria was able to assist her financially as she was working on her own degree I believe.
^^^ And the same should be true of Thomas. We don't know who paid for what during Meghan's time at NorthWestern. However, if she paid at least some of her university expenses herself then Thomas shouldn't go around asserting in the media that it was he who paid for it all.
And while he may not have been paid for this last interview he has certainly been paid for others and for photographs. Hardly the actions of a father deeply concerned about his daughter and her husband and son. Thomas is in poor health. That might well be the result of life choices, or is that Meghan's fault as well?
Thomas is also setting up the click bait comments that revile his own daughter. Does he realize that as a supposedly "loving" father he is throwing his daughter (and by extension his own grandson) to the wolves.
Who knows, maybe Meghan herself helped her father out when she started getting roles.
Why this need to show "recepits"? Normally, a parent helps the child.
Quote from: Curryong on September 02, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
^^^ And the same should be true of Thomas. We don't know who paid for what during Meghan's time at NorthWestern. However, if she paid at least some of her university expenses herself then Thomas shouldn't go around asserting in the media that it was he who paid for it all.
And while he may not have been paid for this last interview he has certainly been paid for others and for photographs. Hardly the actions of a father deeply concerned about his daughter and her husband and son. Thomas is in poor health. That might well be the result of life choices, or is that Meghan's fault as well?
Yes and quite honestly all of the Markles should have not brought "who paid for what" into the dialogue. :nod: Meghan likely was well advised by her high school counselor to apply for any and all possible aid to attend Northwestern. TBH she would have been eligible for any number of programs: ie:1. First generation college student as AFAIK neither Doria or Thomas were college graduates when she applied. 2. Any and all assistance available to students of African American descent. 3. Student with divorced parents. etc..However if ether one or both parents assisted her financially with attending Northwestern, that should be acknowledged as well.
And finally if anyone of them has documentation to prove "who paid what" then quite simply "Put up or Shut up" would apply. :wacko:
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Quote from: oak_and_cedar on September 02, 2019, 07:10:39 PM
Who knows, maybe Meghan herself helped her father out when she started getting roles.
Why this need to show "recepits"? Normally, a parent helps the child.
@oak_and_cedar I believe the idea of showing receipts came after Meghan's speech this fall.
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Meghan Markle reveals she paid her OWN way through university despite dad Thomas saying he stumped up cost (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7567170/meghan-markle-paid-university-fees/)
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QuoteMeghan said: "As a university graduate, I know the personal feeling of pride and excitement that comes with attending university.
"I am also fully aware of the challenges of being able to afford this level of schooling for many people around the world ? myself included.
"It was through scholarships, financial aid programmes and work-study where my earnings from a job on campus went directly towards my tuition - that I was able to attend university.
"And, without question, it was worth every effort."
It appears that it was this part of the speech that started off the rebuttals from Thomas Sr. and Amaranths that he'd paid for her university fees and the claims that there were "receipts to prove it."
Yes I agree that parents do have an obligation to provide their students with access to an education and most do so through their nation's state funded schooling.
Meghan like Catherine and the Wales brothers was fortunate to have parents with the means and the willingness to provide them with private schooling that IMHO most prepared them for private secondary schooling then later university admission for Meghan, Catherine and William.
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QuoteParents feel obligated to get their children the best education they can.
Unfortunately I can assure you that not all parents "feel obligated to get their children the best education they can," so personally I would never make a blanket statement regarding parents and schooling. Sadly I've spent more time than I'd like to recall meeting with those who didn't see this as a priority. :no:
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Quote from: oak_and_cedar on September 01, 2019, 09:03:04 PM
Having blabbing relatives suck! It's even worse when it's your own father. Him not seeing his other grandchildren says it all really.
Mr. Markel has been unable to keep silent and has been an embarrassment as well as a lot of trouble. Perhaps he is incapable of understanding why she has broken off communication with him.
I don't get why this guy gets praised in the DM comments by some. And his daughter is demonized. I think it unnatural that a father goes to the media and trashes his daughter and gets money for it. Piers said he got paid. I think most children would be horrified that a father does this and he certainly is not going to be able to see his grandson if he continues to go to the media. He needs a cooling off period where he can think things through.
Very likely because He was 'never' in the picture even before the 3 days previous to wedding date debacle. In other words 2016 and 2017 Thomas was never introduced or visited by Meghan and Harry, hence the vitriol of the comments.
I don't think anything is "very likely" since a lot of it is purely subject to speculation. I think he was invited, my opinion. I do think he came too much under the influence of Samantha and started going to the media. Which to me is unfortunate and not a good thing if he wants to have a reconciliation. It just fanned the flames. How is it known that he had no contact with Harry? There are phone calls or Skype. I don't think he should treat his daughter like this running to the media for money. He also is alienated from his son and his other grandchildren. I don't think one can say never because I think in all likelihood he did speak to Harry and maybe met him by Skype. What I don't like is Meghan is blamed for it all but she never publicly spoke to the media about him. And as far as "sources" by the DM that is not Meghan's own words. I find the situation unfortunate and I don't think Tom should keep rushing to the media. He is building barriers between any hope of a reconciliation by doing so. IMO. Most parents if they have a grievance don't go to the media to publicly scold a child. I think this very unfortunate and I see no justification for his doing so. There are other ways..
@wannable-I do believe the fact that Thomas for whatever reason (Thomas' or Meghan's decision) has never met his son-in-law in person is bothersome to some people and they make their opinion known on social media, tabloid comment sections or royal discussion forums. :shrug:
It is a family matter and I think it unfortunate that Tom goes to air his grievances to the media and he did get paid by Piers. Whatever the case, I don' t think it is any excuse for Tom to rush to the media to disparage his own child. Two wrongs don't make a right. I think he spoke to Harry by phone or through Skype.
QuoteI think he spoke to Harry by phone or through Skype.
Yes I do agree that they've spoken on the phone and via Skype, but based upon the comments I've read via social media, tabloid comment sections and royal discussion forums, it bothers some people that Thomas has never met Harry (for various unknown reasons) and they're making their opinion known on the matter.
Still personally I'd ignore the negative comments and focus on the positive with the YouGov polls showing that Harry is currently the most popular member overall and Meghan is certainly higher than many in the BRF. :happy:
Some of the social media comments disliked Meghan from Day One. Even when she dated Harry and nothing about her family was known. I think more to the point Meghan is disliked and her father would be backed even though he goes to the media to disparage his own child and got paid for it. I don't think the private interactions of Tom, Meghan and Harry will ever really be known. All I know is if Tom wants to be reconciled with his daughter, the worst way to me is alienating her by rushing to the media to criticize her. A cooling off time is called for.
Quote from: TLLK on September 03, 2019, 01:55:25 PM
Yes I do agree that they've spoken on the phone and via Skype, but based upon the comments I've read via social media, tabloid comment sections and royal discussion forums, it bothers some people that Thomas has never met Harry (for various unknown reasons) and they're making their opinion known on the matter.
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I think that even if their relatonship was strained..which is obviously is..adn even if Thos is not a wonderful father.. Meghan and H should have made the effort to go and see him.
Right, hence my previous comment. If one is a subscribed member to comment in different online sites: DM, Sun, Express, etc. you can check the historical comments of other commentators. Their first impression comment is longish explaining their why about Thomas, previous to the 3 day before marriage debacle he was never visited by Meghan herself. She only had called him to notify she was dating a prince. So, most of these commentators have previously explained in more than a 5 sentence comment their reasons of defending T versus M.
Quote from: wannable on September 03, 2019, 02:24:36 PM
Right, hence my previous comment. If one is a subscribed member to comment in different online sites: DM, Sun, Express, etc. you can check the historical comments of other commentators. Their first impression comment is longish explaining their why about Thomas, previous to the 3 day before marriage debacle he was never visited by Meghan herself. She only had called him to notify she was dating a prince. So, most of these commentators have previously explained in more than a 5 sentence comment their reasons of defending T versus M.
He is not the world's greatest father.. but he is her father.
Yes, and she used to love him. When she called him around 2016 that she was dating Prince Harry, HE did not speak about it for 1.8 years/months before the infamous debacle. :shrug:
Disclaimer: playing the devils advocate and stating as a commentator to news site what I read from the Historical comments of other commentators. I am not defending or think that T is doing right by airing this publicly, BUT he doesn't have a PR machine/household office to say his way versus the palace and or Meghan's friends when they speak too.
ANYWAY, he should give it a rest, he will never have a picture sent to him or meet Archie until he is of age to do whatever he wants to do.
Quote from: wannable on September 03, 2019, 02:46:49 PM
Yes, and she used to love him. When she called him around 2016 that she was dating Prince Harry, HE did not speak about it for 1.8 years/months before the infamous debacle. :shrug:
Disclaimer: playing the devils advocate and stating as a commentator to news site what I read from the Historical comments of other commentators. I am not defending or think that T is doing right by airing this publicly, BUT he doesn't have a PR machine/household office to say his way versus the palace and or Meghan's friends when they speak too.
ANYWAY, he should give it a rest, he will never have a picture sent to him or meet Archie until he is of age to do whatever he wants to do.
I don't think very Hightly of him.. but according to various reports, he was asked to give her away at the wedding..so it would have been IMO better manners if she and H had spared a little time to go and meet him before this. He probably knows that he has blown it with her.. probably he can live with that.. and she has clearly cut him off...
Agree, he knew to walk her, he was in the wedding booklet, he has repeatedly apologized. But he is doomed.
Quote from: wannable on September 03, 2019, 02:46:49 PM
Yes, and she used to love him. When she called him around 2016 that she was dating Prince Harry, HE did not speak about it for 1.8 years/months before the infamous debacle. :shrug:
Disclaimer: playing the devils advocate and stating as a commentator to news site what I read from the Historical comments of other commentators. I am not defending or think that T is doing right by airing this publicly, BUT he doesn't have a PR machine/household office to say his way versus the palace and or Meghan's friends when they speak too.
ANYWAY, he should give it a rest, he will never have a picture sent to him or meet Archie until he is of age to do whatever he wants to do.
:goodpost:
@wannable. I agree. Thomas certainly is a very strange individual and his strained relationships with his children and grandchildren are worth noting. However I do find it sad that there was never a face to face meeting between Harry and Thomas for whatever reason.
Quote from: wannable on September 03, 2019, 02:54:57 PM
Agree, he knew to walk her, he was in the wedding booklet, he has repeatedly apologized. But he is doomed.
I think he's a bit unstable.. as are other relatives... but when she was a kid he did pay for her to go to a privavte school and possible to Unveristy. And while he did speak out of turn.. he didn't talk about her till she became a public figure. But Its not clear to me, if he failed to go to the wedding because of helath problems as was the official explanation.. or because he did not want to.
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Quote from: TLLK on September 03, 2019, 02:59:34 PM
:goodpost: @wannable. I agree. Thomas certainly is a very strange individual and his strained relationships with his children and grandchildren are worth noting. However I do find it sad that there was never a face to face meeting between Harry and Thomas for whatever reason.
True but Samantha and Thos Junior are both pretty messed up individuals and that may mean that he was not welcome to them or to be with their children...
Quote from: wannable on September 03, 2019, 02:54:57 PM
Agree, he knew to walk her, he was in the wedding booklet, he has repeatedly apologized. But he is doomed.
How is the man doomed? He is still rushing to the media and criticizing his daughter. If he were sorry he would not have used the media to criticize his own child. His own actions are his main problem. IMO
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Quote from: wannable on September 03, 2019, 02:46:49 PM
Yes, and she used to love him. When she called him around 2016 that she was dating Prince Harry, HE did not speak about it for 1.8 years/months before the infamous debacle. :shrug:
Disclaimer: playing the devils advocate and stating as a commentator to news site what I read from the Historical comments of other commentators. I am not defending or think that T is doing right by airing this publicly, BUT he doesn't have a PR machine/household office to say his way versus the palace and or Meghan's friends when they speak too.
ANYWAY, he should give it a rest, he will never have a picture sent to him or meet Archie until he is of age to do whatever he wants to do.
He used to love her. Now he's going to the media and Piers said he paid him. Meghan has not said a single public word against him. All the DM has are "sources" and never direct quotes from her about her father of late. If he wants to meet Archie he needs to consider what he is doing. He is criticizing the baby's own mother. He needs to sit back and think about it.
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Quote from: wannable on September 03, 2019, 02:24:36 PM
Right, hence my previous comment. If one is a subscribed member to comment in different online sites: DM, Sun, Express, etc. you can check the historical comments of other commentators. Their first impression comment is longish explaining their why about Thomas, previous to the 3 day before marriage debacle he was never visited by Meghan herself. She only had called him to notify she was dating a prince. So, most of these commentators have previously explained in more than a 5 sentence comment their reasons of defending T versus M.
How is it known what calls went out or what was said? No "log" of calls or skypes has been reported.
if any skype, phonecalls were reported it's unlikely you'll believe... according to your posts
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Quote from: TLLK on September 03, 2019, 02:59:34 PM
:goodpost: @wannable. I agree. Thomas certainly is a very strange individual and his strained relationships with his children and grandchildren are worth noting. However I do find it sad that there was never a face to face meeting between Harry and Thomas for whatever reason.
i think meghan, harry, charles, the queen, philip and many others windsor-borns are far more stranger... according to her he was a great father... it's quite likely he must have payed for her college... her possible, very likely, lie makes hear looks very strange
I have no access to the records of calls. So it is a moot point.
Something happened around the time of the wedding. Maybe the truth will never be known.
As I've said before family relationships are often very complex and the truth may not ever be known about Thomas and Meghan. They were close once, perhaps they will be in the future. And, by the way, what business is it of people like Piers Morgan to come out and comment on it? Are his relationships so perfect? He has been divorced.
At this time Meghan probably does not want to see her father. And Thomas makes it worse for himself by going to the media (possibly under Samantha's influence) and blasting his daughter and son in law while at the same time insisting that it is his right to see Archie. Why hasn't he been so firm about his other grandchildren?
And if he did see Archie? Plenty of material there to line his pocket book for years about Harry, their home, their lifestyle, other royals etc. The truth is the Sussexes can't trust him not to blab. He's already done so.
And if Thomas has the university receipts about paying for Meghan's entire university career then let him produce them. If he has college records about his payments then let us see copies. He and Samantha have been spouting regularly about this for nearly a year and there has been nothing.
They are the ones making the assertions that their daughter and sister is a liar. Let's see the evidence that she is, then. Otherwise, Thomas, please shut up, especially as calling your daughter names is hardly likely to advance your wish to see her child. And Samantha, where's your book that would, in your words, 'prove everything' about what you've been saying about Meghan? Wouldn't have been lying about writing it or its publication at all?
According to the article below Samantha Markle's Twitter account has been recently suspended. Also reportedly the Florida Police Dept is inverstigating her for cyber bullying her half sister in said account. Perhaps due to complaints about her Twitter. Even if not true Samantha has been remarkably quiet lately. She popped up, full of the usual snark, on Inside Edition a few days ago talking about Meghan in the doco but there's a sense that her fifteen minutes of fame has gone past its 'use by' date.
Samantha Markle Investigated for Cyberbullying Meghan Markle (https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a29609755/samantha-markle-investigation-florida-police-cyberbullying-meghan-markle-prince-harry/)
But, she will probably never go away, even though less and less people are listening.
Samantha's book is to be released on Jan. 17, 2021.
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-diary-of-princess-pushys-sister-part-1-samantha-markle/1138541465
I'm dumbstruck that the #1 bookselling giant Barnes and Noble signed her up, but then after 2020 anything is 'valid'.
@wannable-I have to agree and IMO they're taking a big gamble that anyone would be very interested in what she has to say in Part 1 of her memoir.
Merging the Markle Family threads into this one.
Harry contradicts himself in his interviews, You don't go to the royals to ask for help when your wife is suicidal.
You are her husband, pick up the phone and call the doctor
~ Thomas Markle
Thomas Markle accuses Oprah Winfrey of playing Harry and Meghan to build her network by taking advantage of a very weakened man in explosive 60 Minutes interview - and says his daughter is treating him worse than an axe murderer.
Thomas Markle claims Meghan and Harry are treating like an axe murderer in 60 Minutes interview | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9681517/Thomas-Markle-claims-Meghan-Harry-treating-like-axe-murderer-60-Minutes-interview.html)
Meghan Markle's 'proud' ex-diplomat uncle Mike dies aged 82 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9744545/amp/Meghan-Markles-proud-ex-diplomat-uncle-Mike-dies-aged-82.html?__twitter_impression=true)
I'd forgotten about this uncle and that he was in the diplomatic corp. I do believe that he arranged for Meghan to gain an internship in Argentina.
Meghan Markle's estranged brother 'to appear on Big Brother VIP' in Australia - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/meghan-markles-estranged-brother-to-24589942.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true)
Yes he's going to be there along with Caitlyn Jenner.
He needs the money. Wasn't he homeless a few months ago? Evicted from where he was living?!
The 77-year-old former lighting director has yet to meet the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's two children, Archie and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor, or his son-in-law.
But speaking to Fox News, Mr Markle said he was ready to take the matter to court 'in the very near future'.
I'll take Meghan to COURT to see my grandchildren, says Thomas Markle (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9816567/amp/Ill-Meghan-COURT-grandchildren-says-Thomas-Markle.html?__twitter_impression=true)
Thomas has been ?threatening? that for years (where Archie is concerned.) And the vast majority of cases of grandparents resorting to law in order to see grandchildren have been in cases where the marriage has broken up and the in-law has removed the children from any access to their ex?s family. And even then people often aren't successful.
There is no court in the world that is going to order a happily married couple to grant access rights to a grandfather who?s never seen Archie or Lili, has no relationship with them.
And if I were Thomas I?d keep well away from so-called legal redress. Otherwise awkward questions might be asked about the Dooley boys (sons of estranged son Thomas jnr), never seen them from early childhood, have you. grandad? And what about your relationship with your own son? Plus it?s believed that Samantha?s children have hardly ever seen Thomas snr either. But then they aren?t famous!
Further to Thomas Markle ?threatening? to take Harry and Meghan to court to gain access to Archie and Lili, an excerpt from California State law on the issue
From the CA Courts website(Visitation Rights of Grandparents - custody_famlaw_selfhelp (https://www.courts.ca.gov/17976.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en)):
In general, grandparents cannot file for visitation rights while the grandchild?s parents are married. But there are exceptions, like:
-The parents are living separately;
-A parent?s whereabouts are unknown (and have been for at least a month);
-One of the parents joins the grandparent?s petition for visitation;
-The child does not live with either of his or her parents; or
-The grandchild has been adopted by a stepparent.
Any of the above apply to Harry and Meghan? No, so Thomas has absolutely no chance of any petition succeeding.
He is talking filing something in the California courts to give him rights to see the Sussex's children? Does he have rights in that manner? I know nothing about CA laws. Does anyone know by chance?
Markle is only interested in those children because they are royal babies and that is it!! That is his whole conversation in regards to those children, them being Royal!
Quote from: Curryong on July 23, 2021, 11:27:44 PM
Further to Thomas Markle ?threatening? to take Harry and Meghan to court to gain access to Archie and Lili, an excerpt from California State law on the issue
From the CA Courts website(Visitation Rights of Grandparents - custody_famlaw_selfhelp (https://www.courts.ca.gov/17976.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en)):
In general, grandparents cannot file for visitation rights while the grandchild?s parents are married. But there are exceptions, like:
-The parents are living separately;
-A parent?s whereabouts are unknown (and have been for at least a month);
-One of the parents joins the grandparent?s petition for visitation;
-The child does not live with either of his or her parents; or
-The grandchild has been adopted by a stepparent.
Any of the above apply to Harry and Meghan? No, so Thomas has absolutely no chance of any petition succeeding.
I?ve also written another post on T Markle and his ridiculous threats in the above thread.
Thomas proves every time he opens his mouth why his daughter has cut ties with him. He'd likely sell photos of the kids to the top bidder.
She may have eventually forgiven him for the bs before her wedding if it was an one time occurrence. But he is the gift that keeps on giving.
Prime example of why her 'family section' was her mom and friends. For some people, family is very much those you choose for yourself. Some times you jut have to walk away from the toxic family you were born into and never look back.
As for the law suit not only does he have no grounds. But the court is not going to look at his behavior and think him a good influence either.
Quote from: Curryong on July 23, 2021, 11:27:44 PM
Further to Thomas Markle ?threatening? to take Harry and Meghan to court to gain access to Archie and Lili, an excerpt from California State law on the issue
From the CA Courts website(Visitation Rights of Grandparents - custody_famlaw_selfhelp (https://www.courts.ca.gov/17976.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en)):
In general, grandparents cannot file for visitation rights while the grandchild?s parents are married. But there are exceptions, like:
-The parents are living separately;
-A parent?s whereabouts are unknown (and have been for at least a month);
-One of the parents joins the grandparent?s petition for visitation;
-The child does not live with either of his or her parents; or
-The grandchild has been adopted by a stepparent.
Any of the above apply to Harry and Meghan? No, so Thomas has absolutely no chance of any petition succeeding.
Thank you for sharing this information. I knew that he had no legal standing in this case as the exceptions listed above do not apply. Challenges do pop up now and then but typically it involves grandparents who have an established long term relationship with the grandchildren. Thomas Markle does not have one with Archie and Lilibet.
Samantha Markle gets emotional when Dan Wootton asks 'do you still love your sister?'
Video: Samantha Markle gets emotional when Dan Wootton asks ?do you still love your sister?? - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M2XnukaoTiA&feature=youtu.be)
Thomas Markle claims he sent Meghan bouquet of red roses for her 40th birthday | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872601/Thomas-Markle-claims-sent-Meghan-bouquet-red-roses-40th-birthday.html)
Thomas Markle Jr slams sister Meghan as 'shallow' in explosive new trailer for Big Brother VIP (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9873861/amp/Thomas-Markle-Jr-slams-sister-Meghan-shallow-explosive-new-trailer-Big-Brother-VIP.html?__twitter_impression=true)
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on August 08, 2021, 10:53:48 AM
Thomas Markle Jr slams sister Meghan as 'shallow' in explosive new trailer for Big Brother VIP (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9873861/amp/Thomas-Markle-Jr-slams-sister-Meghan-shallow-explosive-new-trailer-Big-Brother-VIP.html?__twitter_impression=true)
?Shallow!? So says the alcoholic domestic violence abuser who was arrested for gun offences! If Is half sister is so shallow it?s a wonder he pleaded publicly to attend her wedding then. Plus he hasn?t seen Meghan for over a decade anyway. Tom jnr is a replacement for the vile Katie Hopkins and Big Brother Aus ought to be ashamed of themselves for hiring him.
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on August 04, 2021, 11:06:51 PM
Samantha Markle gets emotional when Dan Wootton asks 'do you still love your sister?'
Video: Samantha Markle gets emotional when Dan Wootton asks ?do you still love your sister?? - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M2XnukaoTiA&feature=youtu.be)
Wootton doesn?t give a damn whether Samantha, a woman who has badmouthed her half sister for cash for interviews regularly since 2016. It?s all ratings and clickbait with him, disgusting individual.
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on August 08, 2021, 12:56:30 AM
Thomas Markle claims he sent Meghan bouquet of red roses for her 40th birthday | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872601/Thomas-Markle-claims-sent-Meghan-bouquet-red-roses-40th-birthday.html)
Oh yes, and then informed TMZ that he had done so. A very loving gesture I?m sure. And it?s only been about a week since he was threatening to drag Meghan and Harry through the Californian Courts in order to make them allow him to see Archie and Lili. Why didn?t he do that with his own estranged son and grandchildren? Pathetic!
Big Brother VIP's Thomas Markle Jr. signs with top Australian celebrity agent Max Markson | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9886287/Big-Brother-VIPs-Thomas-Markle-Jr-signs-Australian-celebrity-agent-Max-Markson.html)
This stay in Australia may very well be more than a temporary contract for the show. The country is much more stable in all senses down under.
Quote from: wannable on August 12, 2021, 07:19:35 PM
This stay in Australia may very well be more than a temporary contract for the show. The country is much more stable in all senses down under.
If those remarks mean that in your opinion Markle jnr intends to try and settle in Australia for good, this country might well have something different to say about that. Our immigration laws are extremely strict and we aren?t taking anyone in at the moment. Thomas is a window fitter. We have plenty here. He has no trade or profession this country wants or needs. If he was a health or senior educational professional/scientist etc it might be different but it isn?t. And his old domestic violence and gun convictions and noted heavy drinking would certainly rule him out as an immigrant.
As an occasional visitor spruiking negative things about his sister, things don?t look bright either. Our showbiz scene is moribund at the moment and Aussie TV channels have few morning talk shows and no late night ones anyway. Once he?s done the rounds of them and the radio stations in our major cities, what?s he got to offer? He hasn?t seen his half sister since 2012 at least, something that is known here very well. (And even then their meetings were restricted to a couple of times a year, if that.) Write a book? Samantha?s offering hasn?t exactly set the world on fire! That contract will be for this show alone. Just go home after that, Tom.
I'm no expert, but with the signing of the contract with Max, Markle Jr. acquired a Subclass Visa 408, valid for work in the entertainment industry in Australia for up-to 2 years (and renewable). A instagram like by the Max the man himself from a comment under his post by an official user in the industry says it all. Google search also confirms it, with the pandemic, the Entertainment industry in Australia will give Visas out.
I never said that he wouldn?t be able to get a temp visa to go on some show or other in the future. However, my paragraph referring to the viability of saying the same thing over and over again to audiences here in Australia was covered in the last paragraph of my previous post.
Again, there are few shows, apart from breakfast ones watched by people as they go out the door to work, and no afternoon or late evening talk ones. RRs from London cover royal stories at breakfast here. There are limited venues on radio outside our major cities. Once Thomas has milked that particular shallow well dry, what is he going to do? Sing and dance?
There are people who have been in show biz here for decades who haven?t worked for months. And our population isn?t large enough to look kindly on a man who hasn?t seen someone for over a decade going full on with criticising her again and again. There is very little patience for that here.
I'm just mentioning what I read under the Max Instagram post. :flower3: Whatever they pay Markle Jr. his Visa is good for 2 years.
Thomas Markle is giving an interview to GB News.
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1425944547390074883?s=20
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on August 12, 2021, 10:19:30 PM
Thomas Markle is giving an interview to GB News.
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1425944547390074883?s=20
Of course he is. And interviewed by the disgusting Wootton I see. Because his estranged son is on this BB show. And the British media love to knock Meghan any chance they can get. That doesn?t mean that a man (Thomas jnr) who is regarded as a novelty by some now will be a go-to correspondent for ever about a woman he himself admits he hasn?t seen or spoken to for almost a decade as of 2021. As for Wootton he milks the Sussexes for all he can get the entire time.
It seems to run in the family, trashing each other, and Harry got infected too. :happycry:
Quote from: wannable on August 12, 2021, 10:47:54 PM
It seems to run in the family, trashing each other, and Harry got infected too. :happycry:
What public trashing has Meghan (or Harry) done with regard to her half sister, half brother or father? Neither has mentioned any member of the Markle family negatively to any reporter. One can?t say the same about any of the three Markles.
Meghan did speak about her father in the Oprah interview. Obviously the trash about the BRF is huge versus Thomas.
Meghan did not trash her father in that Oprah interview. By contrast Samantha scarcely closed her trap between 2016 and 2021 saying negative things about a woman she had not seen for years. And she and Thomas snr received large sums of money on several occasions for doing just that, Samantha especially so. And wrote a book.
My point is the Markles love to trash for money, clicks, I can't exclude Meghan (and Harry).
Quote from: wannable on August 13, 2021, 12:31:30 AM
My point is the Markles love to trash for money, clicks, I can't exclude Meghan (and Harry).
Meghan (nor Harry) weren?t paid one cent for the Oprah interview, which was the only time Thomas was mentioned. Meghan was not involved in the ?The Me You Can?t See? mental health programme which Harry made, nor in his appearance in his friend?s show shortly before it (bar one momentary appearance.) And the idea that she would give interviews to journalists for clickbait trashing anyone for money in the way the Markles do is risible considering what she went through with the British media while in the UK.
Meghan's estranged father told Channel 7's Sunrise in Australia that Lilibet and Archie were being 'deprived' of time with their older relatives.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry ?depriving? Lilibet and Archie from seeing family, says Thomas Markle - Mail+ (https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/royals/105511/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-lilibet-archie-family-thomas-markle?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=organic_twitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1631704678-1)
I don?t know why these programmes keep interviewing this old man who just keeps repeating himself over and over again. Did he get paid for this latest exercise? As do the other losers in his family, like his estranged son. What happened to Thomas?s threats to take Meghan and Harry to Court to get access to his grandchildren? Find out he had no chance whatsoever of doing so, did he?
Meghan Markle's dad Thomas reacts to Time 100 cover: 'There are far more influential people' | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/thomas-markle-reacts-meghan-prince-harry-time-magazine.amp?__twitter_impression=true)
Thomas Markle claims Meghan has 'disowned both sides of her family' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10106665/Thomas-Markle-claims-Meghan-disowned-sides-family.html)
IF he cared at all about his daughter and her family he?d button his lip, but it seems he?s incapable of doing so, and has nothing new to say about the situation anyway.
Thomas Markle Jr says he's ready to apologise to his sister Meghan | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10155139/Thomas-Markle-Jr-says-hes-ready-apologise-sister-Meghan.html)
Big Brother VIP star Thomas Markle Jr apologises to estranged sister Meghan in ANOTHER open letter | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10176627/Big-Brother-VIP-star-Thomas-Markle-Jr-apologises-estranged-sister-Meghan-open-letter.html)
Meghan Markle's sister Samantha vows to sue over bombshell Finding Freedom claims - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markles-sister-samantha-vows-25453058)
And the trashy family saga continues
?Her team?? ?And I?ll huff and I?ll puff and?.? I doubt very much that Samantha Markle has any money to sue anyone over anything, let alone in suits in two countries. And she was certainly using the name Samantha Grant on Twitter in Oct 2016 as what she was saying about Meghan was all over Twitter at the time and I remember reading it. She changed to Markle on her Twitter page soon afterwards.
As I said the other day, I'm not surprised Meghan wrote a long email to Jason to convey to Omid trashing a bulletpoint list about her sister. Meghan (and Harry) are doing the same as the Markle clan, trashing each other in public. MM is interested in her sister because in the email there are things she writes about Sam that are not 20 years ago but recent. MM said she hasn't seen her sister since 20 years ago and Sam wouldn't know anything about her....MM contradicts herself with the trashing email.
Realistically pro bono exists worldwide, lawyers are sharks, IF and WHEN they see a opportunity to do pro bono because a case can be WON, they will be the first ones in line to offer their service for free (and in blueprint, IF they win they get a percentage of payout). Sam states there is no government legal document of the taking away of her children as MM had written to J to convey to O, but because of her Multiple Sclerosis.
Meghan talks about Samantha?s losing custody of her children. They are all adults so it didn?t happen in the last five years. And Meghan remained in contact with her father until her wedding, who may have conveyed family gossip and info to her. I hear extended family stuff in the same way, through another relative. It doesn?t mean I?m interested in that person.
Samantha has been divorced at least twice and her children haven?t lived with her for many years. One lived with her grandmother, one with her (the child?s) father. And as for trashing, Samantha has done nothing but trash Meghan since at least 2016, and in the media not in private emails.
Plus, how many times has Samantha threatened to do this, do that and nothing?s happened. There would be plenty to come out about her, including the fact that for years she claimed various masters degrees on her Twitter Page, after she changed her surname to Markle, without ever mentioning the universities where she is supposed to have studied. We know she has one Bachelor?s degree. What about the rest?.
At this point in time....Meghan did/is doing what Thomas Sr. Jr and Sam do, trash. It's very disappointing, especially to Sussex fans who are questioning and having doubts since this past weeks first revelations.
That was in a private email to an aide, and in fact that information about either half-s8bling wasn?t used in FF. What?s more, the judge hearing the appeal became impatient at all this reading out of emails by ANL barristers, as all of it was irrelevant to the copyright and privacy suits.
It's all public now. And people are reading it. It's so nasty (just like her Markle family) that the feminism, maternity, compassion gone out the window. Imagine being an employee receiving an email where MM tells the subordinate; Tell Omid she had 3 children by 3 different men, and all the other vomits going out. Using staff in such a way, no professionalism, nada.
Basically, these emails confirms or tells a royal watcher newbie the character and behavior of the Sussexes. It's extraordinary (in a bad way)
Quote from: Macrobug67 on November 13, 2021, 10:23:38 PM
And the trashy family saga continues
It's very sad and unfortunately all of the Markle family members (Tom Sr., Tom Jr. Samantha and Meghan) seem to spend far too much time and energy publicly putting each other down IMO. <_<
I wish MM was above (emotionally) it, things would be different. The alternative of no trashing emails and such... :no: :cry:
Quote from: wannable on November 14, 2021, 02:45:34 PM
It's all public now. And people are reading it. It's so nasty (just like her Markle family) that the feminism, maternity, compassion gone out the window. Imagine being an employee receiving an email where MM tells the subordinate; Tell Omid she had 3 children by 3 different men, and all the other vomits going out. Using staff in such a way, no professionalism, nada.
Basically, these emails confirms or tells a royal watcher newbie the character and behavior of the Sussexes. It's extraordinary (in a bad way)
Worse than Charles authorising his friends, who were unqualified in psychiatric matters, to inform journalists that his ex wife was mentally ill? And the newbie watchers would be told what Samantha and Thomas jnr have said about Meghan over the years. Dreadful things. Anyone trying to whip up any sympathy for SM would have their work cut out. As for Jason, he was all sympathy and compassion and praise for M in her emails. Don?t forget, KP staff had been having to deal with the Markle family from the beginning and that would include Knauf.
Basically, they have no real friends. IF Omid was a friend, he certainly would tell MM that her emails conveyed to J to O is not good, but money making book and I bet he has more to write a second book with personal notes.
Note to mods: My comments about Omid are in line to this thread and the article link. It's about Meghan's email about Samantha and the latter wanting to sue. The email was/is intended for MM's subordinate Jason to convey to Omid Scobie. :shrug:
I would say that those who disliked Meghan from day one and made no secret of it are far from upset that ANL lawyers chose to publicise emails that had nothing to do with the suit. In fact I would say that they are all very happy and delighted, actually. And Meghan will still win her case.
She has to win copyrights as a min.
Quote from: TLLK on November 14, 2021, 02:56:46 PM
It's very sad and unfortunately all of the Markle family members (Tom Sr., Tom Jr. Samantha and Meghan) seem to spend far too much time and energy publicly putting each other down IMO. <_<
Until the emails read out in court (private communications not meant for the public arena) Meghan has said precisely nothing publicly about her half-sister, half-brother or her father.
The court allowed the emails to go public, it's all over the news. :shrug:
^ no probs bringing Obie up. Just as long as the focus remains on the Markles and the relationships between them. Discussion of the court case is allowed if the main focus is on the Markles. Otherwise, if the focus is Meghan then the discussion should go back in her threads
Quote from: wannable on November 14, 2021, 03:08:11 PM
She has to win copyrights as a min.
Which she will. Under English law a letter is in the ownership of the author. And I remember when the suit before Warby was going on everything the tabloids twisted to make it look as if Meghan?s case was going down in flames at certain points was discussed here as if she might as well pack up and go home. And yet she won on both copyright and privacy.
Thanks 👍🏻
Sam has a chance to sue (and win) if she finds a pro bono lawyer in London.
Quote from: wannable on November 14, 2021, 03:24:11 PM
Thanks 👍🏻
Sam has a chance to sue (and win) if she finds a pro bono lawyer in London.
On what? Samantha has had children by different fathers. She has been divorced at least twice. Her children were brought up by others away from her. At least one complained that Samantha was abusive to her. None of them lived with her consistently until adulthood. She did leave high school without going on to college, as she left California and married young. She attended one college and graduated as a mature age student. There is no evidence of her graduating from multiple colleges.
Top flight barristers in UK courts (civil and criminal) do not appear pro bono. They have to be instructed by and are paid through a solicitor. I refer you to the media reports of what his lawyers are costing Andrew, and there hasn?t even been a trial yet.
Just replying about 'she has no money to suit or hire' (Sam is saying that Meghan invaded her privacy, and lied) I really don't care, the only thing I was curious about was that MM did write an email about her sister wanting it to be conveyed to Omid.
Pro bono work is a vital part of the working lives of many solicitors. It helps people in the UK and abroad get access to justice if they cannot afford to pay for legal help. Pro bono work is legal advice or representation provided free of charge by legal professionals in the public interest.
Introduction to pro bono | The Law Society
Meghan Markle's father calls for Duchess of Sussex to be stripped of her title as he brands her latest TV interview a 'stupid stunt' which embarrasses her and the Royal Family.
Meghan Markle's father calls for Duchess of Sussex to be stripped of her royal title | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10226589/Meghan-Markles-father-calls-Duchess-Sussex-stripped-royal-title.html)
Well to be honest I'm not surprised that he's made this statement considering the state of the relationship between Tom Sr. and his daughter. However it's not likely to make an impact upon British lawmakers or the Queen.
The Sun:
Thomas Markle blasts Meghan and 'candyass' Harry over her claim she grew up on $4.99 salads at budget restaurant (https://www.the-sun.com/news/4248209/thomas-markle-blasts-meghan-and-candyass-harry-over-salads/)
From the article that
@PrincessOfPeace shared. I tend to agree with Thomas Sr.'s account of why they went to Sizzler. The chain restaurant is convenient and family friendly with choices that most kids would enjoy. Plus it's an easy way to get some vegetables and fruit in them. :wink: When my kids were young we went to Soup Plantation/Sweet Tomatoes as our top choice and it was packed with parents and kids. The industrial carpet was green with red tomatoes on it so you didn't have to worry too much if someone dropped something. You were in quickly and had your food shortly afterwards. It's why parents choose these places.
Also I recall in her letter that Meghan mentioned the iconic Spaghetti Factory that her Girl Scout Troop went to for different events. A bump up from Sizzler, but the restaurant accommodates large groups and has plenty of pasta choices at a reasonable price along with salad, bread and ice cream. It's the choice that any team/troop leader would make IMO. Featured Italian Meals - The Old Spaghetti Factory (https://www.osf.com/food/)
QuoteMeghan tried to highlight her humble roots to push for paid parental leave by saying in a letter to US politicians in October she ?grew up on the $4.99 salad bar? at Sizzler family restaurants.
But Thomas, speaking from his home in Rosarito, Mexico, told The Sun: ?She?s never, ever, ever had to worry about anything like that in her life.
?We?d do the best restaurants in town and we?d do Sizzler because it was convenient. We never had to rub our pennies together and just have the salad bar.
?She had the salad bar ? but she had a meal as well.?
When we had young children we would go to places that had the same sort of food choices as Sizzlers, TLLK. They appeal to families, being quite cheap, colourful, noisy and fun.
What is Soup Plantation? I have to say none of my children or grandchildren made a choice of soup for a meal until they were older, though I enjoy a nice bowl of homemade soup myself!
Her poor me salad reveal letter to senators is mad, when one sees it with this perspective of children eating green at fun places.
It's even crazier that dad Thomas is thinking of having his YouTube channel.
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There were no Sizzler type chain restaurants around when I was a child. However, as an only child I did go to Lincoln, London and other cities? restaurants to eat with my parents on occasions.
What did I have to eat there? Wouldn?t have a clue, except for one occasion I do remember when I had a colourful trifle and custard in a tall glass. What were the restaurants called? No idea if my life depended on it.
We haven?t all got laser-like memories going back decades, memorising each and every meal eaten out. In fact I doubt that my children would remember much of their meals eaten at restaurants when they were young except perhaps for pizzas and pasta.
Quote from: Curryong on December 11, 2021, 02:17:09 AM
When we had young children we would go to places that had the same sort of food choices as Sizzlers, TLLK. They appeal to families, being quite cheap, colourful, noisy and fun.
What is Soup Plantation? I have to say none of my children or grandchildren made a choice of soup for a meal until they were older, though I enjoy a nice bowl of homemade soup myself!
@Curryong- Soup Plantation is an all you can eat buffet style restaurant that has an extensive salad bar and then smaller soup, pasta, and bakery bars. In other parts of the US it's known as Sweet Tomatoes. You pay one price for your meal based on age with kids under 9 and seniors paying less. It's always full of kids and families. My husband and I had a routine that we would get the kids started and then go back separately for our own while the other waited with the kids when they were young.
Like Thomas said about Sizzler, it's convenient and I believe it's an easy way to get veggies and fruit into your child's meal.
Quote from: TLLK on December 11, 2021, 01:44:20 PM
@Curryong- Soup Plantation is an all you can eat buffet style restaurant that has an extensive salad bar and then smaller soup, pasta, and bakery bars. In other parts of the US it's known as Sweet Tomatoes. You pay one price for your meal based on age with kids under 9 and seniors paying less. It's always full of kids and families. My husband and I had a routine that we would get the kids started and then go back separately for our own while the other waited with the kids when they were young.
Like Thomas said about Sizzler, it's convenient and I believe it's an easy way to get veggies and fruit into your child's meal.
Thanks, TLLK. It does sound ideal for families and seniors. I did wonder whether soups were featured strongly on the menu because of the restaurant names. We did have a restaurant chain here that was ?all you could eat?, but unfortunately some of the food was ?serve yourself? and I?m sorry to say some of the customers going through getting trifles and puddings would have made pigs look good. It really put a lot of people off (including us) and eventually it closed.
Unless with my dad's parents who used to treat us to fast food my parents never did, restaurant choices were never dictated by kid. Other then when we would go for pizza, and that we all loved.
In Canada most restaurants (sit down) have a pretty standard kid's menu. Chicken fingers, quesadilla, hot dog or grilled cheese (sometimes more). So you knew where ever the parents chose the kids would eat something. The best was White Spot which is a burger place with amazing milkshakes (upscale sit down). They had kid's meals called pirate packs that came in cardboard pirate ship. The flag mast was the straw and your meal was i the cargo hold. That was our 'happy meal' as kids.
Bonanza was the only real buffet restaurant growing up and we never went. There was an Italian place though that had a pizza buffet that we loved. The Chinese restaurant in the town my maternal grandparents lived in (and 3 of my mom's siblings) they had a Chinese buffet and a kid's menu of western food. I was a picky kid, I would always eat from kid's menu but I would remember stealing chicken balls from my relatives as I waited for my food, as everyone else would do buffet.
I have trouble believing anything Tom Sr. has to say. Yeah I dont doubt sizzlers was convenience at times. But I could imagine there may have been times the salad bar was what they could afford. Nothing shameful about that. He's acting like Meghan suggested they ate at soup kitchens.
His comment about Harry :ugh:
The thing is, in my view, that these are Meghan?s memories. Maybe she had full meals sometimes, maybe she had pizza and salad at times. However, the taste of the salad vegetables in the salad bar are what she remembers, hardly a hanging offence.
If that?s so then I don?t see why Meghan has to be constantly criticised, especially by a man who has told plenty of porkies himself, contradicted himself dozens of times and seems to be on a mission to call his daughter a liar in the media every chance he gets, not to mention insulting a son in law he never bothered to get to know.
He then repeatedly states that he wants to see his grandchildren Archie and Lili. Going the right way about it, buster! No court or anyone else is going to insist on allowing a man to see the offspring of people he has constantly criticised for the slightest thing in the media for years.
Celebrity Big Brother Australia: Meghan Markle's brother Thomas says Prince Harry 'next for chop' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10488623/Thomas-Markle-Jr-goes-crazed-rant-Meghan-Markle-cold.html)
Not surprised that Tom has spoken about his half-sister and her first marriage.
Meghan's sister Samantha SUES her over 'rags to royalty' narrative in Oprah chat | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10576951/Meghans-sister-Samantha-SUES-rags-royalty-narrative-Oprah-chat.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK)
If Samantha?s attempt to get money from her half sister ever gets to a Florida court, let alone to a win I?ll eat my hat!
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on March 04, 2022, 11:15:38 AM
Meghan's sister Samantha SUES her over 'rags to royalty' narrative in Oprah chat | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10576951/Meghans-sister-Samantha-SUES-rags-royalty-narrative-Oprah-chat.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK)
Again not surprised that Samantha is suing her younger sister.
Here's the complaint in full in Markle vs Markle.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flmd.399340/gov.uscourts.flmd.399340.1.0.pdf
Thomas Markle Sr. will be launching his own channel to share "his truth."
Meghan Markle's dad Thomas vows to tell 'his truth' as he launches YouTube channel - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/meghan-markles-dad-thomas-vows-26452354)
QuoteThomas Markle Snr and close pal Karl Larsen have been inspired by straight-talking royal author Lady Colin Campbell and US podcast king Joe Rogan.
They plan to broadcast their views on current affairs ? which will no doubt include Meghan and Harry ? every week.
Thomas, 77, confirmed: ?We have discovered YouTube? we?ve decided to join and share our story.?
The first episode is set to go online tomorrow and will see Thomas give his views on his eldest daughter Samantha suing Meghan, 40, for defamation.
As Thomas has been repeating the same old same old since at least 2018 and has had no contact with his daughter, son in law or Sussex grandchildren since then, it will be interesting to say the least to see how many viewers he gets on this new channel. Not too many after the launch I suspect.
Meghan Markle's father says he is willing to give evidence against her in defamation case | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10608167/Meghan-Markles-father-says-willing-evidence-against-defamation-case.html)
Samantha Markle slams Prince Harry's 'hypocritical' claim he is 'protecting the Queen' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10742293/Samantha-Markle-slams-Prince-Harrys-hypocritical-claim-protecting-Queen.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on April 22, 2022, 10:52:25 PM
Samantha Markle slams Prince Harry's 'hypocritical' claim he is 'protecting the Queen' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10742293/Samantha-Markle-slams-Prince-Harrys-hypocritical-claim-protecting-Queen.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)
Who cares what Samantha Markle thinks, cares, says or does? She?s an irritating irrelevant nobody, along with her equally tiresome father and brother. The only people who bother to listen are British tabloid journalists, under the delusion that by doing so there will be clicks.
TMZ
Thomas Markle Rushed to Hospital with Stroke Symptoms (https://www.tmz.com/2022/05/24/thomas-markle-hospital-stroke-symptoms-meghan-markle-father/?adid=share-tw)
If the reports are true, I hope that he makes a full recovery.
Meghan's father Thomas Markle has suffered a major stroke, reveals DAN WOOTTON | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10850461/Meghans-father-Thomas-Markle-suffered-major-stroke-reveals-DAN-WOOTTON.html)
I don't know the man yet from all the pictures I have seen of him, this person does not take good care of himself, way over weight, probably eating all the wrong foods for someone who has a heart condition, also no exercise from the looks of it, that is called NOT listening to your doctor.....Meghan might feel so regrets if she does not make contact with him before it is to late. Life is short for all of us...time goes by real fast!
@Nightowl -Yes unfortunately it seems that Thomas was not in good physical health. Reportedly a few days before his stroke he fell over while shopping.
Also according to this article his son Tom is there with him in Chula Vista and Samantha is flying in from Florida.
Meghan Markle's father Thomas Markle fell over while shopping days before suffering stroke | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10853437/Meghan-Markles-father-Thomas-Markle-fell-shopping-days-suffering-stroke.html)
Meghan Markle's sister accuses her sibling of 'negligence' with no contact with estranged dad Thomas | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10855359/Meghan-Markles-sister-accuses-sibling-negligence-no-contact-estranged-dad-Thomas.html)
As Thomas Markle lies gravely ill, RICHARD KAY gives some friendly advice | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10855021/As-Thomas-Markle-lies-gravely-ill-RICHARD-KAY-gives-friendly-advice.html)
What business is it of Richard Kay?s as to whether the Sussexes visit Thomas Markle in hospital or not. The visit is hardly a State affair, no just yet another excuse for Kay and others of the hundreds of ?royal experts? to once again trawl through everything the couple has done since their wedding right up to today. Another avalanche of criticism aimed at Harry and Meghan and written by people whose own family relationships may well not be crash hot.
As for Richard Kay?s so ?friendly? advice to these people he?s never met, dispensed of course in the Daily Fail for clicks, I would suggest that Mr Kay stuffs it where the monkey keeps his nuts!
Quote from: Curryong on May 26, 2022, 05:27:23 PM
What business is it of Richard Kay?s as to whether the Sussexes visit Thomas Markle in hospital or not. The visit is hardly a State affair, no just yet another excuse for Kay and others of the hundreds of ?royal experts? to once again trawl through everything the couple has done since their wedding right up to today. Another avalanche of criticism aimed at Harry and Meghan and written by people whose own family relationships may well not be crash hot.
As for Richard Kay?s so ?friendly? advice to these people he?s never met, dispensed of course in the Daily Fail for clicks, I would suggest that Mr Kay stuffs it where the monkey keeps his nuts!
Don?t you remember before Meghan get married and she got disconnect her dad,Samantha and Thomas jr due drama I don?t think Meghan will visit her dad not since 2018 and also Samantha and Thomas jr got included also but Meghan is very private person due Meghan?s wishes but she not bring her kids visit to her dad,Samantha and Thomas jr but Meghan afraid of her half sister Samantha and half brother Thomas Jr to nearby her kids Archie and Lilibet not good idea per Meghan?s wishes and also protective of her children
Meghan Markle's father Thomas may need a year of therapy after stroke, Duchess's half-sister says | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10858745/Meghan-Markles-father-Thomas-need-year-therapy-stroke-Duchesss-half-sister-says.html)
Quote from: TLLK on May 25, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
@Nightowl -Yes unfortunately it seems that Thomas was not in good physical health. Reportedly a few days before his stroke he fell over while shopping.
Also according to this article his son Tom is there with him in Chula Vista and Samantha is flying in from Florida.
Meghan Markle's father Thomas Markle fell over while shopping days before suffering stroke | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10853437/Meghan-Markles-father-Thomas-Markle-fell-shopping-days-suffering-stroke.html)
Thank you for the info....as someone who really has really learned about heart disease and what a person needs to do to keep going, TM does not do that from the looks of it. I have the world's best cardiologist and he saved my life so when he tells me something I do it wholeheartedly 100%. Everything changed in my life when I got heart problems, and all for the better, life is so much more appreciated and treasured...my sister (Osipi) and I agreed that life is very precious and growing old is a privilege......we never take life for granted. As you know TLLK, Osipi was the best and wisest and most gracious lady in the world. Missing her is the hardest thing in the world for me. I just hope Meghan does not live to regret not seeing her father during this time regardless of what passed between them earlier in life..that would be very difficult to live with I think.
Quote from: sara8150 on May 27, 2022, 02:59:27 AM
Meghan Markle's father Thomas may need a year of therapy after stroke, Duchess's half-sister says | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10858745/Meghan-Markles-father-Thomas-need-year-therapy-stroke-Duchesss-half-sister-says.html)
I'm not surprised that he's going to need extensive therapy after his stroke.
Quote from: Nightowl on May 27, 2022, 05:16:49 AM
Thank you for the info....as someone who really has really learned about heart disease and what a person needs to do to keep going, TM does not do that from the looks of it. I have the world's best cardiologist and he saved my life so when he tells me something I do it wholeheartedly 100%. Everything changed in my life when I got heart problems, and all for the better, life is so much more appreciated and treasured...my sister (Osipi) and I agreed that life is very precious and growing old is a privilege......we never take life for granted. As you know TLLK, Osipi was the best and wisest and most gracious lady in the world. Missing her is the hardest thing in the world for me. I just hope Meghan does not live to regret not seeing her father during this time regardless of what passed between them earlier in life..that would be very difficult to live with I think.
@Nightowl - I am so happy that you took your cardiologist's advice to make necessary changes that will enhance your life. :high5:
It was a pleasure to interact with your lovely sister Osipi at TRF for many years. :consoling1:
Thomas Markle, 77, leaves hospital five days after stroke - and wishes Queen a happy Jubilee | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10864157/Thomas-Markle-77-leaves-hospital-five-days-stroke-wishes-Queen-happy-Jubilee.html#reader-comments)
QuoteThe Duchess of Sussex?s father left hospital last night, five days after having a stroke ? and promptly sent his best wishes to the Queen for a happy Jubilee.
Retired Hollywood lighting director Thomas Markle, 77, who is estranged from Meghan, said: ?I feel hugely grateful and know how lucky I am to be alive.
?I want to thank everyone, especially the wonderful doctors and nurses who saved my life. They are angels.
?I have been deeply moved by loving messages I?ve received from all over the world. People have been so kind. I can?t speak right now, but I am working hard and will thank people properly when I can.?
Thomas Markle told Insider he had no plans to reunite with Meghan at the Queen's Jubilee.
Thomas Markle Says He Didn't Plan to See Meghan Markle, Harry in UK (https://www.insider.com/thomas-markle-says-didnt-plan-to-see-meghan-prince-harry-2022-6)
Why did Thomas believe that he would be able to get within 150 yards of Harry and Meghan anyway? Their security detail would have stopped any such attempt.
And he knew very well what he was to be there in the UK for, to be paraded around by Dan Wootton and Lady C for their own purposes, ie to get a ton of anti-Sussex PR in the form of a dozen or so articles in the tabloids making the Sussex appear heartless and Thomas a grieving father, with an appearance on Lady C?s youtube channel to boot to do the same. Pity it didn?t work out for Wootton and co, eh. Still, no bad deed goes unrewarded!
And Thomas has got a whole 18,000 viewers for his new own new TV channel. A great success then, lol. And he?s already split from his so-called business partner as well, double lol!
The court case vs Samantha.
Meghan's lawyers said Meghan felt as an only child as Subjective.
Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
Objective: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts
With subjectiveness in mind, wokeness might win ''today''. It's all a question of being woke. Another depending on the Judge's decision a 'new' precedent for future cases of Subjective vs Objective situations will happen with whatever the Judge decides.
But Meghan probably did feel that she was an only child, subjective or not. Tom snr and Doria were done as husband and wife by the time she was two. Meghan lived with her mother until her early teen years, when she went to the Little Red Schoolhouse, though her father was always in her life.
Samantha and Tom jnr lived with their mother Roslyn after Tom left their mother and virtually abandoned the family. Roslyn and the kids lived for a time with Richard Markle, Tom snrs brother in Alberkerque and enjoyed life there. Samantha didn?t live with Tom snr till she was in High School, and Tom jnr joined her, though they had visited their father before that. And by her late teens Samantha had left the home and was living in another State. She married early. Tom jnr didn?t get on with his father and drifted off soon after as well.
So for Samantha to infer that she was always there with Meghan, Tom snr, Doria and her brother, living as one complete family for all her early life until her twenties is a complete and utter lie. Yes, these individuals would get together on some family occasions until there was a huge Markle family explosion between Tom snr and most of his relatives.
However that is not living together as one family unit as most families live. Nor would it cause the youngest child in this mess of divorces, family breakups and long-standing arguments to regard herself as part of a complete family.
And Samantha is demanding money as part of her suit, for loss of earnings in her ?career? and loss of sales of her autobiography (or supposed tell-all about Meghan.) Absolutely hilarious! That book didn?t sell from the beginning.
The money is secondary, it's only 75K.
Correction, Meghan stated ''I am an only child'' rather than I feel/Synonyms. So the judge will have to decide if ''I am'' can be subjective or people in the US will have to start to speak when subjectively, proper.
Did Meghan Markle grow up as an only child? She said she did, in that famously awful Oprah interview. Yet Samantha Markle, her half-sister, has taken her to court over the claim. She argues that Meghan made her feel ?humiliation, shame and hatred on a worldwide scale.?
Rather than defending the veracity of their client?s assertion, the Duchess of Sussex?s lawyers have chosen instead to say that Meghan?s claim was ?obviously not meant to be a statement of objective fact'. In other words, duh, people ? Meghan knows she has two half-siblings, Samantha and Thomas. No, her remark was, according to her lawyers, ?a textbook example of a subjective statement about how a person feels about her childhood'.
Well, there is something objectively hilarious about that use of ?textbook?. Haven?t you read all those textbooks in which people claim to be only children when they aren?t? The official statements of the Duke and Duchess often deploy this torturously sub-Freudian lingo ? as if not really written for public consumption, let alone clarity, but for two pairs of eyes in particular. Harry and Meghan?s apparent addiction to therapy talk ? as an outlet for self-pity ? overwhelms everything, including, it seems, even the notion of such a thing as truth.
That may be why the Markle story holds such a sway over the public imagination. We are living in the post-truth age, a time of alternative facts, fake news and algorithmic distortions. Meghan Markle is the Grand Duchess of Post-Truthiness, which is why she has gravitated back to Hollywood, the la la land where rich people can buy their reality and blather on endlessly about mental well-being. Their official Instagram, Sussexroyal? is almost a parody of this feelings-first worldview: ?Today, I feel ?? declares one post. You ? yes, you ? fill in the blank.
Maybe this really is the future. Right-wing blowhards like to say that facts don?t care about your feelings. Meghan proves them wrong: her feelings don?t care about your facts. Harry and Meghan represent the ascendant generations of millennials and Zoomers, so many of whom have been trained, almost brainwashed to feel, not think. It doesn?t matter what happens or happened. All that matters is your emotional response. Your precious ego is the sun around which everything else must orbit.
As for the Markles, they prove Tolstoy?s line that each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. Their bitterness towards each other is manna from tabloid hell. The father falls out repeatedly with his daughter. Samantha has already written a book called The Diary of Princess Pushy's Sister and attacks her on Twitter.
Then again, in Meghan?s universe, none of that needs to be true. Not objectively, anyway.
Meghan Markle?s feelings don?t care about your facts | The Spectator (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/meghan-markle-s-feelings-don-t-care-about-your-facts)
I couldn?t care less what some sarcastic Spectator journalist writes about. They obviously don?t have a full grasp of the facts either.
If. as a child I had a half brother and half sister staying with me and our father for about three or four years of my childhood I wouldn?t regard that as growing up with a full family either. Knowing that your father had two children from an earlier relationship is not the same as experiencing growing up as an only child, especially if your own parents split when you are very young.
Meghan spent several years living with Doria alone. Are Samantha and Tom jnr claiming that they moved in with Doria and their very young half-sister? Because that is rubbish.
Samantha is 16 years older than Meghan. Is she seriously putting forward that she lived with Meghan for eighteen years until she was 34 years old, which would be when Meghan was 18 and therefore an adult? She is living in some deluded land herself if she is, lol!
And Tom jnr is 15 years older than Meghan. According to an interview he gave years ago he had arguments with Tom snr about drugs and about hookers the older man was employing and left his house before he was twenty.
Honestly I believe that both Samantha and Meghan need to display a little more maturity and simply move past this disagreement. Yes Samantha, Tom and Meghan are half-siblings who did all live together during Meghan's infancy and early childhood. However her older siblings were living their own lives for most of Meghan's youth and adolescence.
Quote from: TLLK on July 29, 2022, 11:35:17 PM
Honestly I believe that both Samantha and Meghan need to display a little more maturity and simply move past this disagreement. Yes Samantha, Tom and Meghan are half-siblings who did all live together during Meghan's infancy and early childhood. However her older siblings were living their own lives for most of Meghan's youth and adolescence.
Samantha was the one who brought this lawsuit against her half-sister, not the other way round. Meghan can hardly ignore legal proceedings. Meghan has hardly mentioned Samantha since she started dating Harry (or in the years before) while Samantha went on the rampage on Twitter about Meghan and gave dozens of interviews for money since 2016. So did her brother.
The family she never had.
Prince Harry
Everyone in the Markle family exploded.
The family she never had.
Parents of ex husband telling Thomas Sr.
Parents of ex husband then and there knew something with Meghan is wrong. Imagine years late they hear the same expression from Prince Harry in bbc radio.
Tom Bower book
💀
Quote from: wannable on July 30, 2022, 02:08:11 AM
The family she never had.
Prince Harry
Everyone in the Markle family exploded.
The family she never had.
Parents of ex husband telling Thomas Sr.
Parents of ex husband then and there knew something with Meghan is wrong. Imagine years late they hear the same expression from Prince Harry in bbc radio.
Tom Bower book
💀
Tom Bower tried very hard to get Trevor to give him an interview for his book. So that was the best he could do!
And yes, Meghan probably never felt that she was part of the quarreling rent-apart Markle clan. She probably told both Trevor and Harry so.
Twice the expression twice no family relations. FedEx ring 💍 it is over.
Eventually a repeated modus operandi was going to come out.
I know many mouths went whaaaaat.
Quote from: wannable on July 30, 2022, 02:32:10 AM
Twice the expression twice no family relations. FedEx ring 💍 it is over.
Eventually a repeated modus operandi was going to come out.
I know many mouths went whaaaaat.
I doubt very much that Meghan told either Trevor or Harry that she had no relatives. Thomas snr turned up at the first wedding and therefore Trevor certainly knew his wife?s family background. Harry obviously knew it only too well.
And the only mouths going whaaat would be those who enjoy anti Meghan gossip!
First husband said the expression in front of his parents, the second husband said it in the radio.
It is not a question of relatives, it seems her subjective life is just that.
Samantha Markle's Lawyer Says They Have 'Actual Proof' of Meghan Falsehoods (https://www.newsweek.com/samantha-markle-lawyer-proof-meghan-lawsuit-1730774)
So? All this sniping and skirmishing between the two teams of lawyers proves nothing. That sort of thing goes on all the time in civil cases like this one.
If Samantha?s got irrefutable proof that she was living with Meghan all through Meghan?s childhood and youth then let her prove it. That?s what courts are for and why judges are there. I don?t know how exactly she?s going to fit that into the fact that she herself married and had children in her twenties, however, considering she is 16 years older than her half sister.
Samantha Markle | Meghan Markle Wiki | Fandom (https://meghanmarkle.fandom.com/wiki/Samantha_Markle)
Yvonne Marie Markle
November 24, 1964 (56 years old)
Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.A.
Parents:
Roslyn Loveless
Thomas Markle
Little Siblings:
Thomas Markle Jr.
Meghan Markle
Ex-Husbands:
Earl Hale (m. 1984-1987)
Scott Rasmussen (m. 1987-2003)
Children:
with Earl:
Ashleigh Hale (b. 1985; daughter)
Christopher Hale (b. 1986; son)
with Scott:
Noelle Rasmuseen (b. 1988; daughter)
Samantha alias Yvonne was already married with a child of her own by the time Meghan was three. Explaining how the only photos she (and her brother) possess of Meghan as a child show a toddler. So much for her assertions in interviews that she helped bring up Meghan for twelve years!
Meghan?s lawyers can also question Samantha as to why she changed her name from Yvonne ?Vonnie? Markle to Samantha Grant (and I distinctly remember het using that moniker when she first appeared on Twitter in 2016 to attack her half sister.) then to Samantha Markle, again in 2017. It wouldn?t have been for money-making purposes, lol.
It?s a subjective vs objective fight
Quote from: wannable on August 05, 2022, 02:48:50 AM
It?s a subjective vs objective fight
Well, I?m judging it from the view point of a full sibling being one born of a marriage between a person?s biological mother and father, not a half sibling with a mother who Meghan probably never met. And half siblings who left when Meghan was under three and rarely met afterwards due to family rifts and quarrels, would be virtual strangers. There wouldn?t be too many people who would claim that Samantha and Tom jnr were full siblings or close half-ones under those circumstances, whatever Samantha claims.
Are Samantha?s lies about having partly brought Meghan up also subjective? Seems so, lol!
Florida judge sets October 2023 trial date for Samantha Markle's defamation case against Meghan | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11113423/Florida-judge-sets-October-2023-trial-date-Samantha-Markles-defamation-case-against-Meghan.html)
QuoteFlorida judge has set a trial date for Samantha Markle?s defamation case against her half-sister Meghan and is demanding that the case be tried in a ?speedy? manner.
Samantha Markle, 57, is suing her half-sister Meghan for damages, claiming Meghan defamed and embarrassed her by saying in her Oprah interview that she was raised as an ?only child?.
She claims the Duchess of Sussex, 41, peddled a 'rags to riches' tale, and also over comments in Finding Freedom, the book penned by Meghan's close friend Omid Scobie.
Judge Charlene Edwards Honeywell has now ordered both sides to make submissions in a swift manner, adding that she wanted to make it ?inexpensive?.
She's going to win it.
Apparently has a official government paper, from several departments; social and otherwise that because of her sickness she can't have a job like anyone else, that includes not being able to properly take care of her children.
Meghan had said that she was a bad mother, when the case is that people in wheelchair need a special home, special needs, etc. The children have allegedly stated to the Judge in writing that they all have a good relationship with their mother. And this is where the leak came out about Samantha's trial.
The Markles (ALL of them including MM) are all the same, troll and gaslight each other.
At this point who started trolling who doesn't matter, they easily get triggered and troll each other?! Or should justice be served with discovering who started it first.
I do recall the bad mother scenario was stated in the media repeatedly, source was MM camp so IF it's true that Sam has not one but several updated official documents, Social Security monitoring of periodical report, it's a done deal.
In the states, incapacitated document via Social Security or Veteran receive benefits and other means to help children, Sam's case.
Samantha Markle slams Prince Harry's brief appearance on her half-sister's 'odd and breathy' podcast | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11144817/Samantha-Markle-slams-Prince-Harrys-brief-appearance-half-sisters-odd-breathy-podcast.html)
Jeff Rayner, the photographer who allegedly was involved in producing those controversial photos of Thomas Markle before the Sussexes? wedding, has planted a lawsuit on Channel 7s Sunrise programme here (morning TV) for mentions of him during an interview with Thomas Markle snr. The hosts of Sunrise have apologised for the interview but Rayner (who has family in Aus) says that?s not acceptable. In spite of the headlines the story isn?t about Meghan. Harvey Weinstein was also mentioned by Thomas in connection with Rayner.
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/why-meghan-markle-is-at-centre-of-sunrise-lawsuit/news-story/b0c1d850023ac7abd93d2921f4ad666f
In reference to Samantha, I am just repeating what people who allegedly in the know have said to date;
Her lawyers gave the Judge sufficient proof of Meghan harassing her own family. And what the family tried to do to stop it.
Her lawyers gave the Judge proof of Samantha earnings with her 'therapist' diploma
The Judge accepted the case to be open. Court dates next year (2023)
The last thing said about this case in the USA, libel/defamation/harassment against anyone working in the ''healthcare'' sector is taken very serious.
Thomas Jr said he can't speak about anything related to Samantha's case in his youtube channel, and he will not address it anymore until after the court 'final' outcome.
THE ONLY DOC I WAS ABLE TO READ, BECAUSE OF HER MS, HER CHILDREN WITH HER CONSENT WERE SENT ELSEWHERE/FAMILY MEMBER. SHE IS WHEELCHAIR BOUND. OFFICIAL USA GOV DOCUMENT. So I believe 1 of the harrasments of Meghan to Sam was 'bad mother'.
In reference to her diploma, we have all seen her graduation picture but not the diploma. So I think these people in the know have said 2nd harassment Meghan to Sam, no education, abandoned or whatever in those words.
I wouldn't know 'at this point' about anything related to Sam (including her father and brother), hence I said I'm repeating what I've read or heard from people allegedly in the know.
Her children under oath have said (I forgot to add this in the ''repeat mode'') that they love their mother and were in agreement of moving by law due to her MS illness. She does receive whatever the social security in the USA hand out to this type of disabled person (s).
I think since it has been repeated a gazillion times by US based people that Sam since is a healthcare worker/diploma, she has a lot of favorable points just with that. (I haven't searched US governance laws about healthcare workers related to the law).
I honestly can't debate as I said because I'm not entirely interested to read anything, just listening to some bits and pieces here and there.
Samantha was wheelchair bound from 2008 due to her health condition. The two children from her first marriage to a man named Hale were born in 1981 and 1986. Why would adults need to be sent away from a wheelchair bound mother they weren?t living with anyway? Samantha?s mother Roslyn took care of them from their childhood.
It?s possible that Noelle Rasmussen, who was born in 1998, would have had to be sent away from a ?caring mother? but in fact Samantha and she quarrelled bitterly when she was in her teens (reports in various tabloids) and she went to live with her father. Two at least of Samantha?s children complained about her behaviour at the time that a whole heap of Markle stuff was blowing up after the royal wedding, including Noelle, so it was hardly cuddle and kiss time. Samantha claimed that Noelle was a teenage devil worshipper at one stage I remember. That appeared in a tabloid.
I think you should stop reading all those ?US based? anti Meghan Twitter posts. They aren?t ?people in the know?. Far from it! Doria is a qualified social worker who worked in a recognised facility. Does she get brownie points from anti Meghanites for that? I doubt it!
Noelle talks about her mother Samantha, her grandmother Roslyn by her side. Calls Samantha abusive.
Meghan Markle's niece tells family to stop sniping at each other | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5643957/Meghan-Markles-niece-Noel-Rasmussen-tells-family-stop-sniping-Royal-wedding.html)
I often wondered if Meghan's childhood was unstable at times, more dysfunctional with her living with both parents then living with each at different times and with siblings coming and going at times. That could be part of any person's problem when growing up and affect their adult life in any situation. Catherine has hit the nail on the head with her involvement in early healthy childhood mental health for children as that will help so many grow into mentally healthy adults. My country needs that type of programs big time as America is way to big for it's pants.
At this point, and after reading that between the above 3 they took care of MM because mom was absent and when coming back with friends 🚬 the canabis in the front garden until stoned (Bower), will surely have Mental Health consequences fact 100%, yes or yes.
At this point, the above 3 are not that 'bad' as MM made it to be, IMO Harry, Meghan and the mom are the absolute worse in a huge much Bigger scale, their (H, M and D) machinations are very scary.
Quote from: wannable on December 12, 2022, 06:18:35 PM
At this point, and after reading that between the above 3 they took care of MM because mom was absent and when coming back with friends 🚬 the canabis in the front garden until stoned (Bower), will surely have Mental Health consequences fact 100%, yes or yes.
At this point, the above 3 are not that 'bad' as MM made it to be, IMO Harry, Meghan and the mom are the absolute worse in a huge much Bigger scale, their (H, M and D) machinations are very scary.
If cannabis was involved in the Markle household during Meghan?s childhood then it was Thomas Markle snr who was smoking it. Tom Markle jnr, his loving son, went to town on his father during a tabloid interview in the time when he was constantly running to the media to get money, and stated that when he was in his teens Tom snr had a weed habit and smoked constantly as well as using prostitutes.
And that ?Mom was absent during Meghan?s childhood? with the reason being ?because she was in jail? has been around in Tumblr and Twitter since 2016 when the anti Meghan pack began on SM. If Doria truly had been to jail during her daughter?s childhood then her loving stepdaughter Samantha would have certainly thrown that little nugget out there long ago, as well as Bower and Lady CC. And the tabloids would have gleefully interviewed her fellow prisoners, handing over money to do so.
It?s blatantly obvious that lie has no legs either, along with the yacht girl tale.Why are all these stories erupting again now? SM going berserk again?
I wouldn't possibly know or commit to libel Curryong. IOW, Bower didn't say that in his book. The only thing I can say about Thomas Jr. is he was busted drunk (AA in his police record DNA, problems with his now ex wife), reported in the US newspaper, replicated in the UK purchase of copyrights. Further than what is in the ''media'', not really a smart choice or perhaps one can change it to ''it is rumored''. :hmm:
Only what has been written and not sued, Bower. IOW the chapter detailing Doria absent and returning with friends smoking weed in the front garden whilst the 3 Markles of this ''thread'' were taking care of Meghan. This was a routine and basically he said a weekly situation .
Oh, yes. Doria smoking weed in the garden while her ex and the two children looked after her child? Can really see that scenario! Especially as Samantha left home after high school ended and the history with her own children from the Hale marriage that she blatantly lied about. And the info for Doria smoking weed came to Bower from whom? Someone with the initials T or or S, lol!
I doubt very much that Doria has even heard of Tom Bower, let alone read his book!
She could have sued him, but didn't. Harry and Meghan too for that matter, but didn't. The whole book is damaging, Valentine Low too for that matter. None have been sued.
Not everybody libelled in media reports or in books goes immediately to their lawyers to sue. Life?s too short. And Harry and Meghan haven?t sued every single time a lie has been printed about them. It would be exhausting.
However, just because people don?t do that doesn?t mean that everything printed is 100% true. It often depends on your sources. And I certainly wouldn?t be relying on Markle testimony in court even if Tom and Sam had signed legal disclaimers. A good prosecution attorney would destroy them in ten minutes of questioning.
Look at the National Enquirer. How many lies does it print about celebs every week? And yet they hardly get sued by anyone. People just can?t be bothered and probably think ?Oh well, next time it will be somebody else?. That?s what publications like them and the British tabloids rely on. People just don?t have the time, energy, money, to devote to it. And that includes the Sussexes.
As for Doria I reiterate that she probably has never heard of Bower. And if she has she?d probably not care less about his ?revelation? that she smoked weed. Millions of people smoked some weed occasionally in the 1960s and 70s. I did myself when at art school and uni.
However I do not believe that Doria was an absent or neglectful mother. Samantha could tell Bower about her own history but I bet she didn?t and Bower never bothered to question it. If Bower states that Doria was neglectful then we know his sources for it. And naturally, as he had made a friend of Tom snr for his own agenda, he wouldn?t be concentrating on the many lies and contradictions he and Samantha have told the media since 2016.
To me it is very simple, since they didn't sue, it is true. Suing means the couple would have to actually go to court and tell their own account under oath. It is a risk with a catch.
The latest news regarding Samantha's legal action against her sister Meghan.
Prince Harry asked to take part under oath in Samantha Markle court case against Meghan - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/samantha-markle-calls-prince-harry-29134140)
And here's the judges ruling.
Judge rules in favour of Meghan Markle's sister Samantha (https://www.geo.tv/latest/469672-judge-rules-in-favour-of-meghan-markles-sister-samantha)
QuoteA US-based judge said lawyers must grill Prince Harry and Meghan Markle for their remarks about Samantha Markle made during their Oprah Winfrey interview.
The ruling came after the royal couple's lawyers refused to respond to questions posed by Samantha's lawyers.
According to express.co.uk, Markle's lawyers have asked the judge to stop the process, however, Ms Honeywell has refused, claiming that the Court will likely "dismiss the action in it's entirety".
Judge Charlene Edwards ruled, "Defendant Markle does not show that unusual circumstances justify the requested stay, or that prejudice or an undue burden will result if the Court does not impose a stay."
She added: "Although a preliminary peek at the motion to dismiss suggests that some of the claims against her may be ripe for dismissal, the review does not reveal, at this time, a clear indication that the Court will dismiss the action in its entirety."
'Thus, defendant Markle does not satisfy the high standard required to stay discovery pending the resolution of a dispositive motion.'
Samantha,Meghan's half sister, is claiming $75,000 in damages for the Oprah claims, as well as the claims made in the couple's 2020 biography Finding Freedom.
Finding Freedom, an unauthorized biography of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, was co-authored by Omid Scobie.
We?ll see what the end result is. Here we have the usual US court skirmishes during the course of a case.
The Sussexes will probably settle, paying the peanuts (USD 75K).
I am told just the Oprah lie, i.e. when MM says that Samantha changed her last name (ex to her maiden) ''when Meghan started dating Harry'' is sufficient to US law of 'defamation'. Samantha changed her ex Grant to maiden Markle year 2013. Meghan was still married to Trevor.
Then the Judge has Sam's education certificate (MM said she didn't study), the second floor of a two floor house (this one seems complicated, I'd like to know more but the story goes that Thomas Sr. and MM lived in the first floor, Sam and Thomas Jr second floor, it included a separate entrance, Sam and Thomas would take turns with their father to take MM to school as a minor), the government social security of date/year and yearly check up of Sam's multiple sclerosis tied to social security tied to giving up her children to family members. (the deposition includes the step mother, the child and Meghan), this just by US law, Sam 'had to give up' her children due to disability. There are rich disabled people in the USA, but you have to prove it in order to stay with your children, pay childcare, pay her own care, etc. which she didn't have, the way MM spoke about Sam...not fair play. Actually disgraceful knowing your half sister is ''disabled''.
@wannable- I agree that is a likely possibility but would Samantha agree to it? I tend to believe that she would want some form of statement regarding the Sussexes' participation in
Finding Freedom and perhaps even apology.
I don't think this is the type of publicity the Sussex will want splattered all over the world, live court.tv!!! Nope, they will settle.
If they don't settle, then H and M don't mind being seen worldwide at that free TV channel. :happycry: They already are C listers, going to D?!
Samantha Markle Wants Meghan Markle's Bullying Documents, Palace Emails (https://www.newsweek.com/samantha-markle-meghan-markle-bullying-palace-emails-libel-lawsuit-1779749)
QuoteWhat Samantha Markle's Legal Team Asked Meghan Markle to Disclose
Samantha's team requested "any and all pictures," written communications and phone logs Meghan holds documenting their relationship.
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She also wants all written communications between Meghan and palace PR about Samantha, including with former Kensington Palace communications secretary Jason Knauf.
Knauf famously accused Meghan of bullying two PAs out of the palace in October 2018 and also handed a trove of the duchess' private messages to the U.K. Court of Appeal in 2021.
Additionally, they have asked Meghan: "Have you ever requested that any member of the Royal Family Public Relations Team write stories about [Samantha] or initiate negative press about the [Samantha]?"
She also wants messages with royal PR relating to the biography Finding Freedom, by Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, and any phone logs "which evidence calls between you and the authors."The book contains a chapter on Samantha and is mentioned throughout the court filing, including a request for "written communications where you asked and/or requested your friends, family members, and/or co-workers not to participate in the content of the book Finding Freedom."
Samantha Markle accuses Meghan of 'false rags-to-riches narrative' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11754295/Samantha-Markle-accuses-Meghan-false-rags-riches-narrative.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)
In spite of the Fail?s usual anti Sussex tenor in this article it?s clear that the judge regards Samantha M?s case as weak and even Samatha?s own lawyer admitted as much.
The judge Judge Charlene Edwards Honeywell said she would issue her judgment later but admitted she was 'really struggling' to see how Meghan published the statements at issue, a requirement for them to be defamatory.
He said that during a libel case at the High Court in London, Meghan admitted that she did provide the information to Knauf.
Judge Honeywell cut in and said: 'Even accepting what you just said, I'm still struggling to understand how that makes her responsible for publishing the allegedly defamatory statements contained in the book.
'I'm not looking at British law, or African law or Greek law, I'm looking at Florida law which is pretty clear,' she added.
In a startling admission, Ticktin (Samantha?s lawyer) said that it (Samantha?s case) ?was 'not the strongest case in the world', but as the case moved forward they hoped to make it stronger.
Not every perceived slight ought to be litigated and that's true here.
:therethere:
Quote from: wannable on February 15, 2023, 11:52:16 PM
Not every perceived slight ought to be litigated and that's true here.
:therethere:
Why previously suggest that the Sussexes will pay up as Samantha would win, then?
Just been listening to a very interesting podcast with celebrity US attorney Melcher, in which he goes into the case in great detail.
?Disaster!? Celebrity attorney Christopher Melcher talks Samantha Markle?s defamation case against Meghan Markle?.
Perceived slights run in the family
Trailer: Meghan Markle?s fractured US family pleads for reunion with rogue royal | 7NEWS Spotlight - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd746ikwFRU)
As the world prepares to watch the Coronation of her estranged in-laws, rogue royal Meghan Markle will need to keep her eyes on this week?s 7NEWS Spotlight for a fresh attack closer to home.
On the eve of King Charles III and Queen Camilla?s big day, it?s her fractured US family who threaten to steal the show.
In an explosive and exclusive new interview to air 8.30pm this Sunday on Channel 7 and 7plus, the ?dying? dad of the Duchess of Sussex makes a desperate plea to his once-devoted daughter: please make peace with me before it?s too late.
Showing signs of having suffered a stroke, Thomas Markle Snr joins his son Tom Jnr and daughter Samantha for their first reunion since the former Suits star married Prince Harry and ?iced? them out of her life.
Grilling the Markles is 7NEWS Spotlight?s Liam Bartlett, who joins the tabloid-loving trio at Samantha?s Florida home, where they throw a few shrimps on the barbie and their famous half-sister under another bus.
Sharing ?treasured childhood videos? of Meghan, including never-before-seen footage of the Hollywood star as her high school?s homecoming queen, the Markles accuse her of swapping her regal role for the full-time job of ?hurting? her sickly father and allegedly lying about her life before marrying into the monarchy.
Responding to claims made by Meghan in her Oprah and Netflix specials, Samantha, or ?Bonnie? as her family calls her, hits back at her half-sibling over what she calls a ?co-dependent? and ?toxic relationship? with Prince Harry.
Under-fire Palace officials will cringe at the latest airing of Markle dirty laundry, as they attempt to cleanse the image of an already embattled King and his wife.
7NEWS Spotlight host Michael Usher also reports the latest Coronation news from London, where one royal watcher drops yet another Prince Andrew bombshell.
Don?t miss a salivating second of this royal soap opera, only on 7NEWS Spotlight.
7NEWS Spotlight, Sunday 8:30pm on Channel 7
Another Neil Sean claim: Around November 2019 other than 'what we all know and have read' that led to Megxit from either side of the fence, allegedly in one of the William and Harry discussions before what everyone thought was a 'early long Christmas holiday' the topic was Thomas Sr. because the Queen, Charles, Camilla and Kate had already tried to convince Harry at this stage yet to meet M's father with no avail. So enter stage William and asked Harry if he would like for him to go and meet Thomas at Mexico in his behalf and report back whatever?! That was the real last time the brothers spoke lengthy. Harry told M, off they left the UK.
(1) Neil Sean is no admirer of the Sussexes to say the least. Therefore anything he says about either of them is laden with bile and insult. He is the only commentator to constantly refer to Meghan as ?the ex cable TV actress? as if that was akin to being a beggar or a stripper. She earned her living by acting Neil, get over it. And, btw, she hasn?t been an actress anywhere since 2017. How should we refer to Kate? As ?The ex party tatt photographer for her parents business?? Because that?s what she was.
(2) Sean never says anything to verify any sources except ?allegedly? with a ?You can trust me? and ?very good source? laugh accompanying it. It?s all gossip, and could come from anywhere. It?s also shorn of any innuendos or bad feelings on the Royals? side, as if they are all whiter that white, never put a word out of place, and it?s always the Sussexes being unreasonable about absolutely everything.
How do we know that William would not have gone off to Mexico on Harry?s behalf? Because Thomas was Meghan?s father and how dare he go haring off to see Mr Markle. None of his business, and Of COURSE Harry told his wife. Also, another reason, William?s diary, like those of other royals, is penciled in twelve months ahead. So we are expected to believe that all those would be put aside so William could go poke his nose in another family?s business! Right!
As for Charles inviting Harry to Transylvania, so we are supposed to assume that Harry will jettison his only daughter?s birthday and a forthcoming Court case to go to stay at a place he doesn?t know with a father who certainly didn?t put himself out to see him when the Sussexes were miserable the whole summer before they left. It then was ?Just write your plans down, dear boy? and, as Harry had predicted the Sun got those plans via the KP leak.
(3) And ONCE AGAIN, the RIF isn?t a place to deposit wild claims and gossip from a YouTube professional gossiper. We?ve been through this before. Opinions are opinions, but if there are statements made about any member of the RF having done this or said that, then it?s supposed to be backed up with a viable linked source, even if it?s a rotten tabloid, with a byline as to who?s written the piece, not a YouTube gossiper spreading speculations, his opinions and gossip he probably heard from somebody or other somewhere at one time.
He reports to FOX News
And he repeats it in his Youtube channel, I've repeatedly said it, not everyone has FOX news channel available.
MEGHAN HARRY KICKBACK ON THIS? #breakingnews #meghanmarkle #meghanandharry - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGigT0lPEVo)
Here's a copy of him speaking at Fox News last night.
Why would anyone want to cancel a giant media outlet like FOX News? He IS their Royal Correspondent IN LONDON. Attacking me for repeating what he has to say doesn't bode well with RIF Rules.
On another note, what the Sussexsquad allegedly do with charity is dubious, there is NO official or legal link to the supposed moneys they collect. All reported with words and a design of whatever charity moneys they are doing. Against RIF Rules.
Now, what the Kate Rangers do with charity is Official and Legal with Amazon.com.uk Amazon.com.uk is a legal entity with an account opened for people who want to help official and legal charities.
There I'm done till tomorrow. :D
You do not give any source or link to these stories that anyone on this forum can click onto to see or read what had been said about any of Sean?s statements.
As for Fox News, hardly impressive. Here we have a ?news? service that is not only more right wing than Genghis Khan but has been proved to lie about what it tells the public. As Sean is Fox?s correspondent that makes him perfect for them, I would say, lol!
And I have never published anything about any Royal?s finances without a source being given.
I just gave you PROOF he reports to FOX News, and have repeatedly said he says exactly the same thing in his youtube channel. FOX News is USA, one would need to have ''stream'' service of FOX. I have the stream service, will you be happy if I post my personal recording of when he speaks via fox through my TV room? I don't mind doing it, but if you still can't believe HE is a RR based in London...
...Can't help you any further, but state if you don't like ''ignore'' and move on. Now if the RIF decides that FOX NEWS is not legit, then we all move on and I will comment as everyone else, including speculating the what if's like what you did with the poor woman teacher in Harry's Spare tale saying she probably doesn't exist.
You haven't posted, but you have congratulated a dubious twitter post from sussexsquad claiming they made moneys that does not have any legit and official charity link where one can really click open check etc. like what I have stated and put my hands on fire the Kate Rangers DO. When I click the amazon.com.uk website there IS PROOF of an account opened to help X charity, it's real.
What next YouTube is illegal so William and his mega deal with that channel is forbidden.
New technologies free for everyone.
Same goes with Lady C, she is a permanent guest at GB News at least twice a week unlike Neil who is daily, IF people do not like her (or ones dislike list) skip, ignore and move on. It is already scary that there are people who wish to clip public figures who are permanent guests at any and all media outlet 'just because'.
It's good to read (watch, listen) all opinions from all public figures and then have ones own opinion about it.
I do get worried about this want of curtailing freedom of information, speech.
Just a thought (but if the RIF goes nazi, I'm out of here)
Today is Thomas Markle's 78th birthday.
A belated happy birthday and a *blast to the past*
Thomas Markle
Wikipedia
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org) ? wiki ? Thomas_Markle
He worked on the television series General Hospital and Married with Children. He also oversaw the lighting for the 1984 Summer Olympics.
The Olympics that is said to have changed everything.
It offered a glimpse into the future of media & communications. Heralding the coming Sports Industrial Complex.
Sources: Twitter user Caribbean Prince
Wikipedia Thomas Markle
Sports Illustrated Jon Werthem
Thomas Markle - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle)
https://www.si.com/.amp/olympics/2021/06/03/la-84-olympics-changed-the-games-daily-cover
How Meghan Markle's Father Is Recovering From Stroke (https://www.newsweek.com/how-meghan-markle-father-thomas-recovering-stroke-1821520)
QuoteMeghan Markle's father told a friend that "there's nothing I'm afraid of" after surviving a stroke last year.
The Duchess of Sussex became estranged from Thomas Markle in May 2018 after he was caught staging paparazzi pictures for money days before her and Prince Harry's wedding that same month. Her father missed the Windsor Castle ceremony after being admitted to the hospital with heart problems and the pair have not spoken since.
The family announced in May 2022 that Thomas was taken to the hospital after a stroke that damaged the speech production part of his brain, interfering with his ability to talk.
Karl Larsen, a photographer who set up a YouTube channel, "Remarkable Friendship," with the 79-year-old, told Newsweek that Thomas' health has improved in the months since the stroke.
Here's some updates on Samantha Markle's hearing yesterday in Tampa, FL.
Samantha Markle arrives at court as she tries to sue half-sister Meghan over Netflix doc - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/samantha-markle-appears-court-tries-31400825)
https://www.fox13news.com/news/meghan-markles-half-sister-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-her-federal-judge-in-tampa-hears-arguments
QuoteAfter hearing arguments for more than an hour, the judge said she will provide a written ruling.
If the case is thrown out, Markle?s lawsuit goes away. If the judge allows the case to go forward, then they proceed to a trial, which means the lawyers for both sides will have to prepare for upcoming depositions.
Also handing over discovery material that includes emails, text messages and anything related to this case. The judge could hand out her ruling in the next month.
Same here - after she spoke for one hour and a half, next month the Judge will decide IF there will be a trial or not.
Quote from: wannable on November 10, 2023, 07:40:04 PM
Same here - after she spoke for one hour and a half, next month the Judge will decide IF there will be a trial or not.
It may be in the next few days. And as for Samantha M I?d just like to point out that at every stage in the legal proceedings for defamation she has decided to bring against her half sister, the judge has knocked back part of the case she and her team have presented when it mattered. She is for instance still persisting that it was Meghan?s words in the documentary etc that prevented her book ?the Story of Princess Pushy?s Sister? from selling.
Pleeeeze, if that book sold more that a couple of hundred copies (and obviously to anti Sussexites) from the date of publication I would be extremely surprised. And the very premise shown in the title was wrong. If Samantha knew anything about Royal life, the BRF or Britain itself, she would have known immediately that Meghan was never ever called ?Princess Pushy? by anyone bar Samantha herself. That name belonged to Princess Michael of Kent in the first twenty or so years of her marriage to Pr Michael of Kent. Even she isn?t called that any more.
Meghan Markle Wins Bid To Have Half-Sister's Lawsuit Thrown Out (https://harpersbazaar.com.au/samantha-markle-to-sue-meghan-markle-prince-harry-for-defamation/)
?On February 7, a judge in a district court in Florida rejected a bid to stop the Sussexes from giving evidence in a legal deposition. However, judge Charlene Edwards Honeywell said at the time that a ?preliminary peek? suggested some of Samatha?s claims ?may be ripe for dismissal.?
Now, a Florida judge has dismissed the case entirely. In the dismissal order, the judge wrote that any Meghan?s comments were an ?opinion about her childhood and her relationship with her half-siblings,? which is ?not objectively verifiable or subject to empirical proof.? Therefore, is it not ?capable of being defamatory.?
Harpers Bizar is unreliable, with no date of publishing. That article is super old and worst yet - it's filled with a pack of lies. IOW, it is still 'on going' and not all dismissed as they word it. Yikes terrible journalism.
Anyway - as of recent 72 hours ago - the Judge ''stil'' has to decide if there will be a ''trial'', if so - same like H, the pressure and burden of proof relies on Samantha.
Quote from: wannable on November 10, 2023, 08:13:37 PM
Harpers Bizar is unreliable, with no date of publishing. That article is super old and worst yet - it's filled with a pack of lies. IOW, it is still 'on going' and not all dismissed as they word it. Yikes terrible journalism.
Anyway - as of recent 72 hours ago - the Judge ''stil'' has to decide if there will be a ''trial'', if so - same like H, the pressure and burden of proof relies on Samantha.
Samantha has had one attorney withdraw from the case, in April. She and the lawyer fundamentally disagreed on how to proceed. She and her team have had to twice amend her defamation case. If you think that looks good for her, well, we will see.
Meghan Markle Gets Boost in Sister Samantha's Libel Lawsuit (https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-boost-sister-samantha-markle-libel-lawsuit-1789403)
Meghan also in the past changed a celeb lawyer (the plastic looking guy who is H and the washed up ex famous people actual AP case, Note: Check carefully that guy was the ''initial lawyer'' for Meghan, she did not like what he had to say, she changed him) to another lawyer in reference to her daddy letter case. :hehe: Just saying. It's irrelevant = in all seriousness, like finding micro aggressions, M did it too :wink:
Samantha also had to twice amend parts of her defamation case. The first part of it was thrown out by a male magistrate early on and the second by that female judge who virtually dismissed the whole case except for one narrow window. It doesn?t say much for her legal team!
For what it is worth she should not have done this. The world already knows that Meghan lied to a court of law.
Why beat a dead horse?
It is a waste of time trying to accomplish someone who is already finished.
Quote from: wannable on November 11, 2023, 12:24:20 AM
For what it is worth she should not have done this. The world already knows that Meghan lied to a court of law.
Why beat a dead horse?
It is a waste of time trying to accomplish someone who is already finished.
What do you mean,? accomplish someone?? That phrase just doesn?t make sense in English. And if she is finished why are you writing about her.
Meghan finished? Well, for someone who is finished she is still getting plenty of clickbait and publicity!
She should not have done this?? Samantha is a creature eaten up by jealousy and bitterness about Meghan. Her own mother, brother and daughter have all said so on several occasions. She began this persecution in 2016 when it became known that Meghan and Harry were dating and Samantha began trolling on her Twitter. Samantha deserves everything that will happen to her as her case crumbles into dust.
'something to someone'. Meghan has already been exposed multiple times, which generates loads of viewing. Some like to see a downfall, others learn 101 of what not to do.
Quote from: Curryong on November 10, 2023, 08:58:25 PM
Samantha has had one attorney withdraw from the case, in April. She and the lawyer fundamentally disagreed on how to proceed. She and her team have had to twice amend her defamation case. If you think that looks good for her, well, we will see.
Meghan Markle Gets Boost in Sister Samantha's Libel Lawsuit (https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-boost-sister-samantha-markle-libel-lawsuit-1789403)
Below is a Florida court document showing Samantha?s THIRD amended complaint in her defamation case. So, as I mentioned before, she and her team have had to amend and withdraw whole sections of her case since this first started. As well as change lawyers. What does that say about herself and her legal team? Not much!
DocumentCloud (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23776921-samantha-markle-v-meghan-markle-3rd-amended-complaint)
The trial will begin in Tampa on November 4, 2024, a judge ruled this month.
Samantha Markle Vs. Meghan Markle