Prince Charles wont lived Buckingham Palace when he become King

[TLLK]

^^^ @FanDianaFancy -Yes I read your explanation, however it doesn't change the fact that none of us know what their real relationship is like. AFAIK none of us here are close family friends of the Wales, Windsors, Cambridges, Kents, Gloucesters etc...We only see a tiny portion of their interaction.

We can share our opinions as to what we believe, but unless we're privy to that type of information then it can't be labelled as fact. :shrug:

[FanDianaFancy]

^^^ @FanDianaFancy -Yes I read your explanation, however it doesn't change the fact that none of us know what their real relationship is like. AFAIK none of us here are close family friends of the Wales, Windsors, Cambridges, Kents, Gloucesters etc...We only see a tiny portion of their interaction.

We can share our opinions as to what we believe, but unless we're privy to that type of information then it can't be labelled as fact. :shrug:

I am not knocking you  :hehe:TLLK
We have had this post like yours before . Ok...for sake of debate, then....

Ok then, we really cannot say WnH are that close with Eug,Bea, and The Phillips. We cannot say that WnH are not close with the Spencer's or the Earl.
Do I have proof? Am I there?
We cannot say that Ds Spencer  family were not invited to Camilla's party or that they are not close to PC and C. I was not at Camilla's party.
We none can say that WnH are not close to Tom and Laura.

[TLLK]

^^^Absolutely 100%agree  @FanDianaFancy with you that we do not know who is close to whom within any royal family because we are not privy to that type of information :friends:. We can speculate about their relationships and quite likely we might be right, but unless they choose to share what goes on with their family interaction we don't have the facts.

[royalanthropologist]

This competition as to who is close to who and what they think in private is frankly speaking a bit nuts. W&H have given an interview to say they are happy for their father and his new wife (as they should). Beyond that, it is their private thoughts and nobody's business.

Supporting their mother for panorama is just that...supporting their mother.  William said she gave the interview because she had no power options left but that letting in the press was bad because they would never leave. Most people have given that assessment of that interview. How is that then a snub to Charles?

If W&H celebrate their mother on the 20th anniversary of her death, how is that a snub to their father or Camilla? I would also note that those children attended Camilla's birthday within the same month. All these stuff about who is close to who and who is being left out is just speculative mumbo jumbo. Nobody in their right mind spends time plotting revenge on widows or trying to separate their father from his grand children.

The BRF has found their way of dealing with their issues and thankfully we no longer get blow by blow accounts of their internal squabbles.

[TLLK]

The BRF has found their way of dealing with their issues and thankfully we no longer get blow by blow accounts of their internal squabbles.

IMO the children of the PoW, Princess Royal and Duke of York seem to be less inclined to air their family's  internal squabbles (which l all families have) to the press. Perhaps they were paying attention during the 1980's and 1990's and do not want to see a repeat of those years.

[sandy]

This competition as to who is close to who and what they think in private is frankly speaking a bit nuts. W&H have given an interview to say they are happy for their father and his new wife (as they should). Beyond that, it is their private thoughts and nobody's business.

Supporting their mother for panorama is just that...supporting their mother.  William said she gave the interview because she had no power options left but that letting in the press was bad because they would never leave. Most people have given that assessment of that interview. How is that then a snub to Charles?

If W&H celebrate their mother on the 20th anniversary of her death, how is that a snub to their father or Camilla? I would also note that those children attended Camilla's birthday within the same month. All these stuff about who is close to who and who is being left out is just speculative mumbo jumbo. Nobody in their right mind spends time plotting revenge on widows or trying to separate their father from his grand children.

The BRF has found their way of dealing with their issues and thankfully we no longer get blow by blow accounts of their internal squabbles.

The spin was that William was angry at his mother for it. But his statement does counter that spin. The Panorama interview included the infamous "three of us in the marriage" comment, if William is so "close" to Camilla he would not have mentioned it. For that reason.

[FanDianaFancy]

This competition as to who is close to who and what they think in private is frankly speaking a bit nuts. W&H have given an interview to say they are happy for their father and his new wife (as they should). Beyond that, it is their private thoughts and nobody's business.

Supporting their mother for panorama is just that...supporting their mother.  William said she gave the interview because she had no power options left but that letting in the press was bad because they would never leave. Most people have given that assessment of that interview. How is that then a snub to Charles?

If W&H celebrate their mother on the 20th anniversary of her death, how is that a snub to their father or Camilla? I would also note that those children attended Camilla's birthday within the same month. All these stuff about who is close to who and who is being left out is just speculative mumbo jumbo. Nobody in their right mind spends time plotting revenge on widows or trying to separate their father from his grand children.

The BRF has found their way of dealing with their issues and thankfully we no longer get blow by blow accounts of their internal squabbles.

You were  not  to  Camilla's party. We  were not there. We do  not  know  if they went. Per reports, they  were  due  to  attend...  per gossip reports..per  gossip  writers. No pictures, so  we  none know.

I am  not  knocking  you  or  TLLK.

We  have  had these  post  of "We  do not  know."

Well, then lets  close this board  because  it  is useless  talk about people  we  do  not know. You  do  not  know Chalres and Cammilla.
I did not know  PD.

YES,  the  boys said they  are happy  for their father, but  that  could  have been just business talk.
We  do  not really  know  that.
The  boys  celebrated their mothers  life, but  that  could  have been  just for show. BRF duty.  We  do  not  know how they  really dislike PD  , thinks she was awful  as a  person,  a  mother, a  wife, a  human being, awful in her causes,  and just an awful  person   and they   just love them some Camilla.
Maybe they  call  Camilla, MOTHER,  in real life but  chose not to say that  to the masses for business , BRF   pr purposes.
We  do  not know.
Maybe behind the scenes, PW and PH cannot  stand  C and  are  not around their father  too much.

I am  and was being  rude here  and in my  to TLLK's  posts because WE DO KNOW SOME THINGS that  are  known via  BRF  reporters  who know.  We do know some things  per  the BRF

Come on people.  Be honest   with  yourselves.

I am lost  here  because  C and PC and  who is your fav  or not  ....their worlds  are  not mine.  Their live are not mine. I am NOT that heavily  invested  and not that  personal  and offended  like  some people here.

See my  post  here about  Queen  Camilla or  DofC, Camilla, whatever she  will be  when  PC dies  if he should die  before  her.
I cannot  stand  Camilla. Not a fan. HOWEVER, I  have posted over and over and over, ...She will be titled Queen Camilla...She  was, is a  good mother, exwife, etc....If  PC pr King C  dies before her,  she  most likely will  live her life at HER  PRIVATE HOMES of Highgrove  AND  Raymill and  really  wont  care  if  PW and PH  cut her  from their personal lives. Her  life, her  precious  children and grandchildren, history, descendants  line  are all firmly secure in names, titles/class system, and wealth there in her  country.
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The spin was that William was angry at his mother for it. But his statement does counter that spin. The Panorama interview included the infamous "three of us in the marriage" comment, if William is so "close" to Camilla he would not have mentioned it. For that reason.

But sandy, we  not know.
Don't  you see PW  probably said,  could have said that just for show?   PR. To appeases the  crazed  20 years later PD  fans  , is subjects.
Maybe he  and PH really did  not want to that  stuff , but Camilla and Charles  met with them and told them  they  really  needed to do that about that Ridiculous Creature.
YESYES, Camilla   could  have  told  them, their MOTHER, that  she, their MOTHER  as they  call  her in  private,  knows they  love her CPB, and she is secure and that it  would  be splendid  if they  did this to appease their subjects on Barbie.
Was I there? Were you? Was royalanthro? Was TLLK ?  No. We  were  there.  We never met with  PH and PW in their  office to hear them say  why, what  they  were  doing for PD and why.

[sandy]

None of them are going to stand in front of a microphone and say who they get along with or who they do not get along with. It is well known that William has adopted the Middletons. Kate and William even skipped a Sandringham Christmas to be with her family.Actions speak louder than words.

[royalanthropologist]

No such thing is "well known". As far as I am aware William remains a Windsor. Without the Windsor name, he is a commoner and not entitled to the British throne.

Yes, he does get on with his in-laws and that is a good thing. Does not mean that he has abandoned his family. Likewise I see no problem with Kate preferring to spend time with her young family and her own mum. That too is a good thing. Nobody is complaining or making a fuss about it.

The Cambridges do alternative Christmases with each side of the family. Once again, no snub is intended or taken by the principal parties. They are just being fair to the other side of the family.

I always get intrigued by the need to create drama and conflict where there is clearly none. If someone is happy with their family arrangements, I cannot see what concern is it for others to tell them what they "must really be feeling" or who they must really be snubbing.
Double post auto-merged: September 26, 2017, 07:49:27 PM

IMO the children of the PoW, Princess Royal and Duke of York seem to be less inclined to air their family's  internal squabbles (which l all families have) to the press. Perhaps they were paying attention during the 1980's and 1990's and do not want to see a repeat of those years.

Clever kids to do that. Don't give the tabloids any more material for their never ending soap opera.

[sandy]

I did not mean adopted literally. No way would that ever happen.

There is no "drama" involved in William enjoying the company of Kate's family.

[TLLK]

The spin was that William was angry at his mother for it.

The information shared by his Eton housemaster Andrew Gailley was that William was not happy with the press attention that resulted from the Panorama interview. Considering that he was a teenager when it aired, I can understand why he was not happy with it. However as an adult with a better understanding of relationships and an opportunity to reflect upon his parents' separation and divorce, I can see why he'd make that statement understanding her reasons for speaking out in that interview.
IMO William  made it clear that he was not happy with the behavior of both parents when he opted to have Tiggy be his guest at Eton's June 4th or speech day instead of his parents.

When it came to deciding whom to invite to the Fourth of June, Eton's equivalent of speech day, he deliberately chose Tiggy — and told his parents that he didn't want them there.

[royalanthropologist]

No child likes to his either of his parents being criticized in public, particularly on national television. The mistake that many people make is to imagine that W&H in any way enjoy seeing their father slandered and insulted in the media. They do not and they bitterly resent those who do it. Matters are even worse when you are 14 and your mum is washing the family dirty laundry on national television.

As William has grown, he perhaps has a better perspective of Diana as a wronged woman making a desperate plea for attention and justice;  but he also recognizes the dangers of the press. William hates the press for what they did to his mother and continue to do to his father.

[sandy]

The information shared by his Eton housemaster Andrew Gailley was that William was not happy with the press attention that resulted from the Panorama interview. Considering that he was a teenager when it aired, I can understand why he was not happy with it. However as an adult with a better understanding of relationships and an opportunity to reflect upon his parents' separation and divorce, I can see why he'd make that statement understanding her reasons for speaking out in that interview.
IMO William  made it clear that he was not happy with the behavior of both parents when he opted to have Tiggy be his guest at Eton's June 4th or speech day instead of his parents.

No children are happy when their parents split up. William knew both his parents gave interviews and they were breaking up.

I think William must regret his "precious" behavior which I think was disrespectful to his parents. He was acting out because of the parental marital problems but it did not give him the right to disrespect them. I can only imagine how he'd feel if George told his parents they could not come to a school event and pointedly invite Nanny Maria instead. There is such a thing as Karma.

William still said he understood the interview and why she gave the interview. Unlike Charles he does not trash his parents to biographers. He is more decent than his father that way.

[royalanthropologist]

Ah those pesky double standards @sandy. I agree with your statement below:

"Unlike Charles [Diana] he does not trash his parents to biographers [Settlen and Morton]. He is more decent than his father [mother] that way."


Double post auto-merged: September 26, 2017, 11:33:01 PM

The defense of Diana is so intense that it borders on criticizing her 14 year old son for reacting badly to her media antics. William was not being "precious". He was fed up of being caught in the middle of two immature people that did not have the decency not to get married in the first place or to divorce amicably. The children have no fault in this.

[sandy]

Media antics? What about Papa's antics, he cooperated with Dimbleby on a biography in which he trashed his parents, admitted he never loved his sons' mother, and blamed everyone for his own choices. He gave that interview where he twitched and admitted adultery and told his biographer he was involved with a married woman beginning soon after she delivered her second PB child.

I think William was disrespectful to his parents. That's my opinion and I'm standing by it. As I said if George pulled the same thing on him he would not say good boy George, quite the opposite.

[royalanthropologist]

And I say it is disgraceful to blame children for the immature, irrational and damaging behavior of their divorcing parents. William had every right to be angry. Both C&D ought to have thought about what their antics were doing to their children, the monarchy and the country. They were not the first couple to divorce but they behaved as if they were.  :thumbsdown:

[TLLK]

"Unlike Charles [Diana] he does not trash his parents to biographers [Settlen and Morton]. He is more decent than his father [mother] that way."

I have to agree @royalanthropologist that William and I'll include Harry have not followed the example set by both Charles and Diana and have not trashed their parents  to biographers and interviewers. The brothers have already witnessed the pain that is caused by that type of behavior and seem to have decided that it isn't worth the heartache.

At the time of the Dimbley, Panorama, Morton, Settlen etc...events, neither brother was an adult. They reacted in a manner that is to be expected and has been repeated by many children/teens who are witnessing the behavior of the warring adults. (In my line of work, I see this all too frequently.) :no:

IMVHO this was one of the  wake up moments for Charles and Diana as parents.  I strongly believe that it made them reconsider how they were behaving in front of their children and ultimately this event and others  did impact how they treated each other in public. Things appear to have improved after the divorce and both could behave in a more civil manner when they were together for public events.

She and Charles managed to coparent their boys despite lingering drama. The former couple was granted equal access to Prince William and Prince Harry, who were 14 and 11 at the time, respectively. The boys alternated holidays with each of their parents when they weren't attending boarding school. Things seemed to be civil between Charles and Diana as they worked together to coparent their boys after the divorce and up until Diana's death in August 1997.

https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/What-Did-Princess-Diana-Do-After-Divorce-From-Prince-Charles-43537635
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Anyhow I'm aware that we've drifted off topic again and should return to the topic about BP and Charles.

[sandy]

And I say it is disgraceful to blame children for the immature, irrational and damaging behavior of their divorcing parents. William had every right to be angry. Both C&D ought to have thought about what their antics were doing to their children, the monarchy and the country. They were not the first couple to divorce but they behaved as if they were.  :thumbsdown:

William never said publicly he was "angry."  But of course he must have been upset about his parents splitting up. It would have been nicer for him and for Harry to not be children of divorce. But many children come from broken homes in this day and age.

[Trudie]

No child likes to his either of his parents being criticized in public, particularly on national television. The mistake that many people make is to imagine that W&H in any way enjoy seeing their father slandered and insulted in the media. They do not and they bitterly resent those who do it. Matters are even worse when you are 14 and your mum is washing the family dirty laundry on national television.

As William has grown, he perhaps has a better perspective of Diana as a wronged woman making a desperate plea for attention and justice;  but he also recognizes the dangers of the press. William hates the press for what they did to his mother and continue to do to his father.

Diana wasn't the only one washing the family your Idol did that one the year before via Dimbleby Sorry to have to point this little blunder of his out to you

[FanDianaFancy]

Again...another topic turns to CPB, PC, and D by some who ignore facts.

Wrapped in their little fantasies, ugh. I do not understand. The bias. You contradict yourself.

People, please let it go.  My opinion is not  posted here. Factsfactsfacts.
Factsfactscfactsfacts.

H andW are close enough to PC. They love him. Respect him. Etc. There is no doubt about it.
They and Camilla are decent, cordial, business, etc. of each other and all three , as we say here in the States, they  stay in their lane.

Wales, Yorks, Philips will not ever air out BRF dirt. In spite of herself and in spite of hims of, Andrew and Sarah both did well equally raising York girls. Anne did the best of all her siblings with her children who have carved out busy lives of , family , privacy, and career lfor themselves.
Wales really , to be under the media spotlight , have done THANKS to the years , impressionable years Diana had with them and YES, PCs input esp after as well.

PC and D both said it all and how her time on Earth was due to end, good she did say it all.
Those are the factsfactsfacts of her life.

I love lol, when some of you here contradict or omit Dian's words or Charles own words or the timelines, the pictures, etc.

W is very close to his family who are Kate's family. He even calls them Mom and Dad and did so well before they married. Add, well before they married, he would be there at their family home, it was said, for just breathing....catching his breathe,  taking a breathe of fresh air, peace...a real family doing and acting like a  real family.

W and H , I have said over and over, the ajunors, the Old Lady aHicks and others with the need to side with the Monarch by any means necessary so taking such horrible shots , cursing still a dead woman who cannot defend themselves only hurts W and H.
I get it from the times hundreds of years ago in the nobility, etc., you side with the Monarch.
2017 though. You are going to be picked up the Kings guards and thrown in the Tower while awaiting your turn on the chopping block. Lol, 2017, not 1720.

So back to the topic. Rumor.
Will King Charles and Queen Camilla live in Buckingham Palace?
Yes they will when they have state dinners. When King Charles has to receive the PM , what, once a week,
When K and Q must receive visiting heads of state. Yes.
Buck Palace is historic. Safe. Well guarded. Tourist point of interest . If the Monarch is in, the flag is there or not, what. I forgot. Anyway, tourist look for that. Tourists equals tourism. Money spent by tourists. Add the times for flyovers, etc,, whatever annual events they have at BuckP. The garden party-I can see that on Camilla's diary as her event.

Now, yes, King C and QC will be at Sandringham, Windsor when it is time for there too.
Being at BuckP a few times equalling a few times a year is not a lot for them
He will do as he wants, but certainly, he will be there . Even if he chooses to be there the least number of days, he'll be there.
:goodpost: if I say so myself.  :D

[TLLK]

Yes I agree @FanDianaFancy  that Buckingham Palace is safe and will remain as an official residence of the monarch and will continue to be used as a gathering space for public events including the garden parties.

[royalanthropologist]

Diana wasn't the only one washing the family your Idol did that one the year before via Dimbleby Sorry to have to point this little blunder of his out to you

Very true. That is why William did not want their drama at one of his events and invited the nanny instead. Of course Diana had already opened fire on Twiggy so it was only a matter of time before she too became another "third person" in the marriage. Diana actually wrote a letter to this effect. Her fans only talk about the accident but they conveniently ignore the part about marrying Twiggy because it is a ridiculous thing to say even for them.

BTW Charles is no idol of mine. Just because I point out the hypocrisies and double standards of those that dislike him does not mean he is my idol.

[sandy]

William in effect created his own drama when he excluded his parents.

Tiggy opened fire on Diana she openly criticized Diana's mothering to the media. She called the boys "her boys" while Diana was still alive. Camilla apparently saw Tiggy as the third person and called her "the Help" and was instrumental in having her sacked. Tiggy barred Camilla from her wedding and only invited Charles and the boys and Camilla and Charles were "together" at that time. Camilla saw her as a threat which speaks volumes. I doubt she liked Charles getting all touchy feely with Tiggy in public. SOmething Camilla and Diana had in common: dislike of Tiggy.

[TLLK]

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More updates on the renovation work for BP.

[FanDianaFancy]

Very true. That is why William did not want their drama at one of his events and invited the nanny instead. Of course Diana had already opened fire on Twiggy so it was only a matter of time before she too became another "third person" in the marriage. Diana actually wrote a letter to this effect. Her fans only talk about the accident but they conveniently ignore the part about marrying Twiggy because it is a ridiculous thing to say even for them.

BTW Charles is no idol of mine. Just because I point out the hypocrisies and double standards of those that dislike him does not mean he is my idol.

Yes , mature of PW.
No media looking for C and D and  during this time, Camilla had already opened fire on Tiggy.
It was just a matter of time before  Tiggy became a "third person"  Camilla would have had to deal with and she as only Camilla can protect her place.
Actually, Camilla did deal quickly with the Tiggy issue.

Just because I point out the hypocrisies and double standards of those who dislike Diana, does not mean she is my idol or that I am fanatically bitter against Charles and Camilla. 
I just prefer to state the facts and not opinions as facts.
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William in effect created his own drama when he excluded his parents.

Tiggy opened fire on Diana she openly criticized Diana's mothering to the media. She called the boys "her boys" while Diana was still alive. Camilla apparently saw Tiggy as the third person and called her "the Help" and was instrumental in having her sacked. Tiggy barred Camilla from her wedding and only invited Charles and the boys and Camilla and Charles were "together" at that time. Camilla saw her as a threat which speaks volumes. I doubt she liked Charles getting all touchy feely with Tiggy in public. SOmething Camilla and Diana had in common: dislike of Tiggy.

Then, now 20 years dead, Diana is spoken with awful words by people vying for PC s side, the side of power.
Old Lady Hicks comments ,within the last year or so, was awful saying D was crazy, ill suited, etc. for PC.

Tiggy should have been let go when she issued her rant about how Diana gives them, the boys,  malls and parks and she gives them guns and fresh  air....something to that effect.


Ummmmm, like others then and now, they are encouraged.least feeling comfortable in saying whatever about D.
WAIT. I am not not not not not saying D was a saint. I am not not not not not not not saying D said it all and more about PC , Cammmila, and herself.
YES she did and more.

For hundreds of years and still now, get closet to the Monarch by any means necessary. Turn in your mother, father, daughter , son if you must.

Tiggy s comments were totally out of order about Diana's children . Tiggy was not their mother. This rank and file and class system of  Aristos/nobility England is very odd to me. To have another woman, nanny,  belittle a mothers  way of mothering her children is strange. Tiggy felt very comfortable in that rant and after, nothing happened to her. It should have automatic dismissal. To upsurp the Princess, the mother of the heirs of PC....sadD had every reason to be a nervous wreck about the divorce as for her rights to her children. She was affected by her mother having to leave them. Reality in early 1990s, was that there was no way PC and TPTB could have taken her boys from her.
It was different then from 1500s , etc.


Back to topic. BuckP is for the regeinging monarch