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It?s hardly hypocrisy if you are born a Prince and people know you as Prince Harry. It?s simply part of his styling. And Harry is the Duke of Sussex. If the Queen objected to his retaining the Dukedom then she would have told him not to use it.

Also,  could say that every royal in the world trades ion their titles and being royal. Nobody would listen to any of them, look at them or care about them if their name was Bloggs, Guelph, Bernadette or Glucksburg. And that includes all the spares in every royal family.

I can remember William as a teenager and in his early twenties. He was hardly anxious to join the royal grind of engagements and duties then and many of the RRs wrote about that reluctance.  Harry knows his brother very well, and I can well believe that BOTH brothers have expressed their annoyance and frustration at royal life and the Palace hierarchies to each other over the years. However there is a difference between being the heir and being the spare.

Which is why people everywhere will look at Charlotte and Louis in another 25 years or so and be absolutely fine with them having a private life and career. And after Anne and the Wessexes are gone, it will be only four people doing fulltime royal duties. Future spares will be free as birds and it will be marvellous.

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"Ms. Markle's latest interference in U.S. politics reignites the question in my mind as to why the Royal Family does not simply strip her and Harry officially of their titles, particularly since she insists on sending this under the pretense of being the Duchess of Sussex," Rep. Jason Smith, R-Mo., told DailyMail.com.

Republican tells Royal Family to STRIP Meghan Markle of royal title for interfering in US politics (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10118413/amp/Republican-tells-Royal-Family-STRIP-Meghan-Markle-royal-title-interfering-politics.html?__twitter_impression=true)

If th UK parliament strips the titles, I wouldn't be surprised Harry and Meghan change their stationary to Office of Prince Harry and Princess Meghan 🤣

This man obviously doesn?t get that Meghan hasn?t got ?a title?. Apparently it would be fine to strip a Duke of his title because of his wife writing a letter! And Meghan is ?pretending to be the Duchess of Sussex?. My, my!  :laugh:

Every now and again a few Pro Trumpite Republicans get annoyed about Meghan (who hasn?t been Ms Markle since 2018) due to Trump making some comment about Meghan during his term of office.

If the Queen has shrugged off the midges of the British tabloid media with reference to the subject I hardly think she?s going to strip Harry of his Dukedom because some US Senator she?s never heard of says something.

She is not going to do it, because (a) Harry has not committed treason, the only reason to strip a peerage, (b) it takes an Act of Parliament, and the Govt has a thousand other things on its plate, (c) she would then in fairness have to do the same to Andrew of his York dukedom, (d) she obviously doesn?t wish to do anything as Harry is still a much loved grandson.

She would be interested I?m sure into Sen Smith?s anti-vaccine rants and his views on Puerto Ricans as well,

On January 17, 2019, Smith shouted "Go back to Puerto Rico!" at House Democratic members on the House floor while Representative Tony Cardenas was presiding.[33][34] He later clarified and apologized to Cardenas and stated his remark was in reference to a recent trip taken to Puerto Rico by several lawmakers, including Cardenas, not to single out anyone's ethnicity.[35][36] His apology was accepted.[37]

Quote from: wannable on October 22, 2021, 12:08:17 AM
If th UK parliament strips the titles, I wouldn't be surprised Harry and Meghan change their stationary to Office of Prince Harry and Princess Meghan 🤣

It wouldn?t be Princess Meghan but Princess Harry, and indeed they might do just that if it ever happens, but it won?t. A Prince can?t be de-Princed and Meghan will take her status from her husband as is usual by custom.

Quote from: wannable on October 22, 2021, 12:08:17 AM
If th UK parliament strips the titles, I wouldn't be surprised Harry and Meghan change their stationary to Office of Prince Harry and Princess Meghan 🤣

Meghan is all about being The Duchess of Sussex and nothing else.  After all *Dating and then marrying a British Royal Prince Harry is what made her famous*, nothing she did personally in the business world or entertainment world, just marrying someone with a royal title is all.

This:...*When a person is very secure within themselves and know who they are, then they do NOT need to shout to the world who they are or what they want or need*  Meghan musts in life are getting as much attention from the world so that she can because all that attention is making her feel secure within herself......P101

I actually feel sorry for her, she is showing a very weak insecure person and using The Duchess of Sussex as her title when in all actuality it means NOTHING all because she left the royal family and has done nothing but lie about them ever since.   

Nobody has said that Meghan is PRETENDING to be the Duchess of Sussex's at all, she married Prince Harry  and they were given that title on their wedding day and now it is HOW she is using that title that is the issue.  Does anyone honestly think NP is impressed with Meghan and that letter.........I have the London Bridge to sell if you want it. Using that letterhead with the names of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex on it brings Harry into the picture, that is a mistake on her part....have your own letterhead for some issues that you might have an opinion on. 

People who marry simply to get a title do not go ahead and have two children (plus suffer a miscarriage) in three years of marriage. Her friend who did her 40th birthday video with her said Meghan?s face lights up when Harry walks in the room. And Meghan is very secure within herself, even perhaps too much so.

The couple have been married for three and a half years, together for five, and nobody, not even members of the British media who hate them, have been able to point to either of them being unhappy or miserable with each other, no hints of infidelity, quarrels, nothing.

They are happy together and with their children. A person who married for ambition, not love, would simply be unable to keep up the facade for years. Especially with what they have experienced together since 2018.

It was the Republican Senator who stated that Meghan is pretending to be the Duchess of Sussex. That?s what I was referring to in my post. The letter was attached to over 400 labour and Citizens organisations who want to get the measure through Congress and sent their pleas to Nancy Polosi. That?s what it was done for. I?ve seen some of the websites of these organisations with the letter attached. Marshall Aid for Moms is just one of them.

This is another example of these websites I mentioned. There are over 400 organisations like this that are corresponding with Nancy Pelosi from all over the US.

Homepage - Paid Leave for All (https://paidleaveforall.org/)

 This is a perfect example of a person stroking their own ego and flaunting "fame" that came to her through someone else.  It is No wonder Meghan doesn't care much for Trump.  She recognizes herself in him and the world ain't big enough for the both of them.  Ambition never pays off when it's self serving and only serves one.  It is a darn good thing at least they're far, far away from the UK monarchy now and have absolutely no influence in that sector although they'll constantly remind us that they *are* "royal".  Royal pain in the *sses to a system that is over 1,000 years old.  Harry kind of reminds me of Aethelwold in TLK.  Aethelwold never got anywhere really either.  LOL

It lasted just one day.  Too much things going on in the world that the quote 15 minutes of fame is true to its expression.

Paperboy worldwide replaced her spot with Alec Baldwin.

 :goodpost:

Quote from: wannable on October 22, 2021, 02:37:35 PM
It lasted just one day.  Too much things going on in the world that the quote 15 minutes of fame is true to its expression.

Paperboy worldwide replaced her spot with Alec Baldwin.

Which similarly happens to news of 96% of BRF engagements performed during the year. A royal unveiling a plaque at a fish factory in Grimsby  or visiting a kindergarten in south London doesn?t linger around the news outlets either.

This was a letter from Meghan appealing to the Dem chiefs in conjunction with about 400 community and labour organisations to which the letter was attached. The bill on parental leave is an important one to millions of Americans. She didn?t send it to news organisations.

And the Baldwin tragedy, although covered in Oz, didn?t dominate the news cycle  here. Instead the abduction of a four year old from her parents tent at a camping ground in WA which has attracted a million dollar reward for info received has been the tragedy practically everyone has been following.

Not there yet. US paid leave proposals still stuck in Senate. Here?s an article from September that possibly explains why.

Will America Finally Get National Paid Family Leave in 2021? (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/national-paid-family-leave-2021.html)

Quote from: Curryong on October 22, 2021, 06:46:52 AM
This is another example of these websites I mentioned. There are over 400 organisations like this that are corresponding with Nancy Pelosi from all over the US.

Homepage - Paid Leave for All (https://paidleaveforall.org/)

Quote from: Curryong on October 23, 2021, 01:37:38 AM
Not there yet. US paid leave proposals still stuck in Senate. Here?s an article from September that possibly explains why.

Will America Finally Get National Paid Family Leave in 2021? (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/national-paid-family-leave-2021.html)

We have millions of companies.
This is never going to pass. Paid leave  for all women, no matter what the JOB and place of employment.
It is silly, sweet, childlike thought , socialist.
Women in careers, professional women we call them, have 8 weeks or 2 weeks paid leave , whatever Deot. Of Labor it is, plus other benefits from their companies.
Benefit packages fir everything varies from company to company for the female employees who are in careers.

Biden, Progressives want to turn the USA from a capitalists, democracy to a Venezuela. He has stated in campaign talk all kinds if crazy stuff like free college , forgive all student loans, open borders, Dreamers DACA made citizens?.
Others of the Progressive Crazy Democrats wnt a living wage paid for everyone. It is a really sweet, childlike thought.
I support their pure, chidlike hearts. I support children in their sense of fairness, their innocence , and thoughts.
Lol.
These people in Congress are crazy fromthe Progressive Democrats to the TrumpQANON Republicans.
Sad times here in The USA. Very sad

Money is, would be meaningless.
Here , you are paid for your worth. I am sorry life is not fair and we are all not thin, rich, and beautiful.

Women employed in minimum jobs, some cushiony ,cute like recepts, nursery school workers, cleaning service companies, nursing home non- medical staff, substitutes teachers, call centers, etc, , I can goon and on, as well as Jack in the Box etc, are in jobs and do not have benefit packages like women in careers.

Places of employment cannot afford to  pay for 12 weeks to 6 months maternity leave, lol.

Yes, However, jobs should be protected. Yes for those needy we have govt programs.


Livingwge.The call is to pay everyone, anyone a living wage, a wage they can live on. In this country , you are paid for worth for what you do. Chart your own course. Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps mentality.
America.

Southern USA. A living wage of lets say, $40,000- $50,000 a year to work in the jobs I mentioned, lol. Ridiculous. Well then, people in careers income will double and some will triple too. So you will be right back at where you started.

@Curryong  @wannable , just getting back to you. I do not know or care about Australia or where wannable worked throughout the world.
USA is big, land wise and every city, state, region is different. SoUSA is known for being less costly than NoUSA.
Minimum wage needs to goup nationally to cost of living 2022. Even with that, hourly wage varies from the minimum higher depending on the city, state, region.
Ex. $25.00 and hour for minimum wage in Texas.As for as I know, there is one Texas, lol.
Damn, you would be rich earning $150.00 a day for a few hours a day working at Popeyes , more than a school teacher with a Master?s Degree at that.

I think tipped  waged employees of restaurant servers need minimum wage. Relying on feast of faminine , do to soeak, busy days vs. light days, of the whims of customers is not right for 2022.
Tips, that should be between them and their wallets too. No claiming on taxes, tips.

You guts are on many topics.
Next, her title use here is tricky. Curryong disagrees. Ok. Fine. Someone used the wrong word.
Better word would be , a gray area. Megan is an American citizen and can say, do, go, be, move, live, buy, sell, whatever she wants. That is why she had no intention of staying in BRF in England.
A year and a half,time to bounce.

Her name is HRH, the Duchess of Sussex or whatever the style is. That is not the point. Megan, HRH, the Duchess of Sussex, whatever.

Issue is WE DO NOT HAVE ROYALTY HERE. Ohhhh, the American Revolution, War of 1812. TheBritish lost so many, so many casualties in the War of 1812.
Way more than the Americans. The Battle of New Orleans.

USA does not care what she calls or styles herself and has no say either. HRH, Mrs. Henry. Mrs. Windsor.

That is BRF, TQ, Englands problem.

The gray are is heras kind of BRF involving herself in USA politics .Again she is an American on America doil and can do whatever the hell she wants.
TQ, BRF England cannot stop here .They agreed to not use HRH, but as soon as Queen dies  or if before that, MegHar chose to use HRH, they can. Truly, Q, aBRF, England cannot do  a dammn thing about it.

Grey area is you have two BRF. Dueling BRF.
MegHardo not represent the Q or BRF or England.
The next Official Sussex Royal Tour , their second official tour will be with her invited to speak on USA Dept of Labor issues to Congress, meeting at TWH with PresBiden and FLBiden, a private dinner, and a stay , overnight stay at TWH.

I said it here first. Wait. Watch.
Lol.

Correction. Her letter, lol, so cute , so sweet, so childlike in thought, fantastical is calling for 12 weeks of paid leave for parents. Both . Mothers and fathers.

Ummm, many couples are not even married, ok.
They are not couples either.

Again, women in careers, professions , professional women , slang term, they have that for themselves. Plus, if they are married to a partner equal in a career such as themselves, yes, dads can take vacay time which is paid and/or leave for a new baby .


Catch even here, like insurance ,etc., legally married is legally. Living with your current bf is not recognized as legal.  This applies even fir women and men in big careers. Marriage is legal.

For those, next tier, in good jobs, they have benefits of maternity leave too.


Companies vary .

Last tier, important people, humans, but those in mimimum waged jobs, part- time,full- time, from fast food workers on, they usuallydo not have benefit packages such as 12 weeks paid maternity leave.
These are valuable human beings worthy of human rights , but the jobs they have simply cannot support this, pay this.
Jobs should be held for them for 12 weeks, 6 months.
In the meantime, the place has to employ another body to fill that position.
You are then having these places pay double, lol.

These types of jobs cannot financially do this.

Next socialist, more govt welfare, new govt welfare policy is have have the USA govt pay12 weeks to 6 months for maternity leave , lol. Are you kidding me?

Well Stockton, CA, a crazystate as crazy as Florida, is paying people $500.00 just cos.

Hello TheUnited States of Venezuela.
The USV.

In my lifetime, I do not see common sense in USA govt politics happening, coming back to common sns. There was a time when there was common sense in the 1980s, 1990s. 

One thing that I  have to wonder about is her job at age 13. That would have been in 1994, but California raised the minimum age for employment to 14 in 1990 with a few exceptions ie child actors. I have to conclude then that she was being paid under the table by the shop owners.

Child Labor Laws In California (https://jobsforteenshq.com/child-labor-laws/child-labor-laws-in-california/)

The DM has all MM's dead tweets and the Tig?!

Growing up on $4.99 Sizzler salad bar...AND lunch at a Hollywood icon | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10119695/Growing-4-99-Sizzler-salad-bar-lunch-Hollywood-icon.html)

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The rest of the First World pays couples Parental Leave, whether they are married or not. That?s why it?s called Parental leave. Australia does it, so does NZ, with a population half ours. So does little Belgium and Sweden for example. But the US can?t afford it?!!!!

And why call social welfare measures like these ?socialist? as if socialism was somehow evil? That?s the sort of rhetoric heard from US right wingers during the Cold War!   

In Britain, Europe, Australia and elsewhere these laws are just regarded as par for the course in giving its citizens a fair go during a new phase of their lives. Maybe, just maybe, the US, which always regards itself as the top in everything, has something to learn from the rest of the First World.

Perhaps US citizens who are so against this should get out in the world more and get some experience of foreign countries instead of being stuck in circa 1951 regarding such measures. (And even in 1951 Britain and other places in Europe had Universal Health Care, something many in the USA have difficulty accepting even now. Are you saying Britain is a socialist state?)

PS Tipping in restaurants, bars etc in Australia is not expected. People hardly ever tip here as employees  in hospitality are paid a decent wage, not expected to rely on tips to bring them up to a reasonable standard of living.

More from MM upbringing, in her own words.

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Are all these photos etc to show Meghan up as a liar regarding her upbringing? Because it doesn?t. At various times Thomas Markle had money as a lighting director, at times he didn?t. His ex wife Roslyn complained about his lack of finanacial support at times when the two older children, whom he?d abandoned as small children needed things.

His son Tom remembered his father when he, Tom jnr, was an older teen, getting into the drugs and hookers, and came out giving an interview saying so. He supposedly won a lottery (no documented evidence of it) which he hid from the authorities and yet a few years later he was broke. It is clear from the evidence of his two older kids that Mr Financial Responsibility he was not. And that is Meghan?s fault?!! He spent all the money on her? I think not!

Both Meghan?s parents worked. As such they took holidays (or Doria did) with their only child. Nothing unusual in that. An American acquaintance at work had parents who both worked and paid bills. When there was a bit of money to spare the family went to the Caribbean, when there wasn?t they took holidays nearer home, and yes that included Hawaii. Yet both parents live a very modest lifestyle in their old age.

And my workmate couldn?t believe the range of social security measure when she married an Australian and came to live here. And yes, she supports the proposed US parental leave scheme.

Neither of Meghan?s parents lived a luxury lifestyle and for both paying the bills was a struggle at times. Yes, Meghan went on a trip to Britain as a teenager. She chucked in a little bit of spending money from her teenage job, Doria paid for some of it and Thomas paid some. Exactly like neighbours? grandchildren of ours who went on a trip to the US as teenagers though their parents had split up.

Again, there is no sign that either Doria or Tom were broke during Meghan?s childhood. Nor are there any signs that either parent had any real money. Doria inherited the home she has now. Tom bought an investment home in LA much later on. Neither lived in luxurious castles.

If Meghan wishes to support the Parental Leave bill still stuck in Congress then she is perfectly entitled to do so, without the Fail planting out of context pictures and twisted articles about her background. They didn?t pay for her life as a teen and they aren?t paying for hers and Harry?s lifestyle now, neither is anyone else. And there are plenty of US citizens, with money or without it who are supporting this bill. Good for them!

Twitter Data Reveals Meghan Markle And Prince Harry Hate Campaign (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/bot-sentinel-meghan-markle-prince-harry-twitter)

Report from Buzzfeed on an organised campaign of harassment of the Sussexes by a couple of hundred posters on Twitter. Twitter has promised to investigate.

In the report, Bot Sentinel includes examples of tweets from this group of 83 users that violate Twitter?s terms of service against targeted harassment. BuzzFeed News received an advance copy of the Bot Sentinel report and the list of users identified within it and found hundreds of additional tweets that violate Twitter?s rules.

Twitter?s terms of service forbid abusive behavior and engagement ?that harasses or intimidates, or is otherwise intended to shame or degrade others? and prohibit social coordination between accounts that results in harm to others or that encourages dogpiling.

Bouzy emphasized that the negative Twitter activity is not fueled by automated bot accounts, but real accounts run by humans.

Bot Sentinel identified 55 ?primary accounts? responsible for the vast majority of original and derivative negative content against Meghan. Another 28 users were flagged as ?secondary accounts? that primarily amplify the tweets of the first group. According to Bot Sentinel?s analysis, these 83 accounts are responsible for 70% of the negative hate content targeting the couple on Twitter. In the report, Bot Sentinel estimates that the accounts have a combined potential reach of at least 17 million Twitter users.

For anyone interested. This is the guy who came up with the 'report'.

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Whoever he is, and I don?t know him, that doesn?t mean there isn?t (and hasn?t been) an organised campaign of harassment against the Sussexes by quite a small group that has been going on for years on Twitter. There have been other reports and articles on the couple?s treatment by such users over the years including one, not by Mr Bouzy, that appeared while they were still working royals.

He's like an Omid Scobie, harassing the Cambridge's and the children too. I hope that tweet was notified?! It helps open a file/eye. 

To be fair Christopher, Omid and Kaiser are the equivalent of Yankee amd Murky.

Meghan appeared on the Brightly Story Time channel to read aloud from her book The Bench.

Brightly Storytime: The Bench Read by Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex (https://www.readbrightly.com/brightly-storytime-the-bench/)

QuoteWe?re thrilled to welcome Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, in this special episode of  Brightly Storytime! Follow along as she reads from The Bench, a poetic story that beautifully captures the extraordinary relationship between father and son, as seen through a loving mother?s eyes.

Sad news to Americans or not?

Family leave fails to make an impact as Joe Biden drops the proposal from his $1.75Trillion plan

Oh nut according to Angela Levin, one of those ?royal experts? who knows everything, the bill had already passed Congress when Meghan wrote the letter.
Two Dems apparently were holdouts, so again a watered-down bill of virtual nothingness gets enacted.

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Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan Call on Leaders at G20 Summit to ?Vaccinate The World?
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Call on World Leaders at G20 Summit to ?Vaccinate The World? (https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a38108403/prince-harry-meghan-markle-g20-summit/?utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowTWHBZ&utm_source=twitter&src=socialflowTW)

It's an open letter to #G20 leaders, asking where are the promised vaccine doses to low-income countries?

From the Guardian article on Harry and Meghan?s open letter.

Prince Harry and Meghan have joined the World Health Organization (WHO) and Save the Children in appealing to G20 leaders meeting this weekend to honour promises to send Covid-19 vaccines to low-income countries where just 3% of people have had a jab.

It is one of the most directly political initiatives at a high-profile political summit by the former royal couple since they left the British royal household.

In a two-page letter, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the WHO director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the Save the Children International CEO, Inger Ashing, and representatives of other health charities called for the world?s wealthiest countries to accelerate long-promised donations and break the hold pharmaceutical companies have over access to vaccines. The issue was being discussed at a G20 health ministers meeting in Rome where it was agreed to try to vaccinate 70% of all populations by mid-2022.

It continues

By delivering already-pledged doses, helping countries manufacture their own vaccines, and prioritising vaccines for nations in need, the G20 can help ensure the world delivers on these promises,? said the letter that was also signed by the Vaccine Alliance, UNAIDS, Clinton Foundation, Global Citizen and the Rockefeller Foundation.

?We can?t simply hope for the pandemic to end on its own. As the virus progresses through unvaccinated populations, we risk new and more deadly strains sweeping the planet.?

The letter also calls for the G20 to immediately close a 550m-dose gap to accelerate towards WHO?s 40% coverage target by the end of 2021, by speeding up existing commitments of donations to Covax, pledging new ones, executing swaps with Covax, and eliminating export restrictions on vaccines.?

Prince Harry and Meghan appeal to G20 to keep Covid vaccine donation pledges | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/29/prince-harry-and-meghan-appeal-to-g20-to-keep-covid-vaccine-donation-pledges)

YouTube Profits from Meghan Markle Troll Accounts' Network of Hate (https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-youtube-trolls-hate-accounts-amnesty-1643008)

?YouTube Profits from Meghan Markle Troll Accounts' Network of Hate?. Headline from Newsweek.

I happen to be a long term member of Amnesty International which apparently advertises for new membership/donations on sites like Murky Meg, mentioned in this article. To say I?m pretty disgusted is an understatement and I?ll be investigating further.

It's Harry and Meghan's fault, it spiked after Oprah. That was their end.

And that excuses Amnesty, whose very name stands for justice for all and no persecution or hatred, advertising on a site that promotes both? I?ve defended Amnesty against some people?s sneers for decades.

And your assertion is untrue. I noticed a whole Tumblr network erupt, which drove Twitter outrage, during November 2017, the couple?s engagement month. And it hasn?t stopped since. That Murky Meg site for instance began long before the Oprah interview, June 2019 as a matter of fact. 

The couple have to apologize publicly, then that spike will go away. The squad also spiked after the goldfinger dress.

It's very easy to ✔ date, time...review the usual nuts, voila.

It's very simple, go back on national TV, say "I'm sorry for 🗑 my family." Done.

It just goes to show the huge amount of people that ❤ the British Royal family. No one F or S....Her Majesty. Too many newbies in social media, tic toc, YouTube that started criticizing the Sussexes immediately after Oprah. ✔ the date of registration.

I sure as hell wouldn?t be apologising, publicly or otherwise, for anything if I felt I was in the right. And if apologising was the price of shutting down a whole heap of wretched trolls I wouldn?t do it either. Those people are responsible for their own behaviour online. No-one forces any of them to make money by spreading hatred of people they have never met.

And nobody on the outside, not RRs, not ?royal experts?, not people on Tumblr, Twitter, members of the public or we on forums, nor even courtiers at the various Palaces, no the undercurrents between various members of the royal family. Nobody does, except family members themselves.

And I?m quite aware thanks of trends on Twitter, Tumblr, FB and other platforms thanks, and have been since this saga started in 2016.

People have freedom of speech to dislike 👎 what the Sussexes did. Now they or their minions are crying 😢 asking for shutdown.

I hope it happens. Usually something forced, people will dislike the couple more, and some have to learn the hard way.

For most of Queen Elizabeth?s life there was no Internet. I don?t know how old you are but there was a great deal of criticism of her in the media at various points in her reign. In the late 1950s 1960s for being frumpish, stuffy, schoolgirlish and out of touch. In the 1970s and 1980s  for being frumpish, out of touch, undemonstrative and  a detached mother. After Diana?s death and it?s aftermath a deluge. It?s only now she?s very old that she?s untouchable.

And there has always criticism of other royals, both online and in print, the Yorks, Charles, Camilla, and yes, even the Cambridges. Though not at the screeching and moaning level against the Sussexes in the past three years.

It's the Sussexes own fault. They said 17 untruths on 📺.  If they don't like the reaction, go cry me a river. 

And they kept on burning 🔥 bridges 🌉. Running to G. King at every 📞 💩 on Charles William.

🙄 I actually love the fact that newbies started defending the castle 🏰 👌 🤣

It?s not so much defending the castle as attacking the Sussexes and building up practically every other member of the RF to sainthood in consequence.

As for them being firm monarchists that depends on how many are British, doesn?t it? Because if they are from a non Commonwealth country it doesn?t mean a thing. And a growing sector of younger British people are not only not defending the castle but aren?t monarchists either.

Running to Gayle King all the time! When was the last time Gayle commented about the Sussexes? Must be at least six months!

The only solution for the Sussexes is dictatorship shutdown or apologize or declare insanity. They have to think very carefully, each choice has a "effect". 1 is negative,  2 positive 3 is amnesty.  They did a heck of a lot of damage 💔. As I said just goes to show how influential the BRF is, that a lot of people started flooding the gates of YouTube social media with thousands of followers, subscribers.

All that army of dislikes, trolls, whatever one calls it grew, spiked alarmingly after Oprah.

I very much doubt that any of the options you?ve tabled will be followed by the Sussexes. They?ll just go on living happily together in California with their children.

The mob on the Internet will die down in a few years. And all those ?thousands of followers? are almost certainly the same people, going from site to site.

The doxer (s) are in meltdown mode, hence my suggestions. :shrug:

To go into meltdown mode over someone you don?t know, will almost certainly never meet, and who has never harmed you, with a determination to do them harm, certainly suggests insanity in some individuals, but it ain?t the Sussexes.

The Sussexes fired a bomb. It's a war. The soldiers don't know the squad and vice versa.

Just to be clear the dislikers troll soldier whatever one wants to call them motivation was because of what the Sussexes did with Oprah.

The Sussexes started a war, the BRF replied once, but who knew thousands would flood the gates of free speech via SM defending the BRF.

The reports and its reporters of this new army are the ones moaning and in meltdown suggesting to shutdown these monarchy lovers.  They seem to forget who started sparked the fuse.

Quote from: wannable on October 30, 2021, 01:57:08 AM
The only solution for the Sussexes is dictatorship shutdown or apologize or declare insanity. They have to think very carefully, each choice has a "effect". 1 is negative,  2 positive 3 is amnesty.  They did a heck of a lot of damage 💔. As I said just goes to show how influential the BRF is, that a lot of people started flooding the gates of YouTube social media with thousands of followers, subscribers.

All that army of dislikes, trolls, whatever one calls it grew, spiked alarmingly after Oprah.

IF they choose Dictatorship Shutdown of Castle Crew Defenders, as I said it's a negative option effect...

Listen minute 24.04

QUEEN's DIAGNOSIS/MEG's plan BACKFIRES/Hiring HATERS/the succession/MARY SHELLEYs ghost/FAME,bad,mad - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMhx2MgAcQ&t=1528s)

Is it possible that the public will focus on other members of the royal family eventually and the interest in Harry and Meghan will wane?

Carolyn Durand

@CarolynDurand

On Monday November 9th Meghan, Duchess of Sussex will participate in a

@nytimes

Forum with

@MellodyHobson

on how women can create economic and professional parity and creating opportunity #DuchessofSussex

Meghan has been cold calling Republican Senators regarding Paid Family Leave. I have no issue with her contacting representatives, but I strongly believe that she should be doing so as Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor and not as "Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex."

Meghan Markle personally called GOP senators to push paid leave: report | TheHill (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/579988-meghan-markle-personally-called-gop-senators-on-paid-leave-report)

QuoteMeghan, the Duchess of Sussex, personally called Sens Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) to advocate for paid family leave, according to Politico.

?I?m in my car. I?m driving. It says caller ID blocked. Honestly ? I thought it was Sen. Manchin. His calls come in blocked. And she goes 'Sen. Capito?' I said, 'Yes.' She said, 'This is Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex," Politico quoted Moore Capito as saying.

"Much to my surprise, she called me on my private line and she introduced herself as the Duchess of Sussex, which is kind of ironic," Collins told Politico's Senate reporter Marianne LeVine. ?I was happy to talk with her. But I?m more interested in what the people of Maine are telling me about it,"

''Much to my surprise, she called me on my private line and she introduced herself as the Duchess of Sussex, which is kind of ironic,''

OUCH  :pillowfight:

I have to wonder if Senator Gillabrand's colleagues and others appreciate her giving out their personal contact information?

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Meghan Markle personally called GOP senators to push paid leave: report
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Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, personally called Sens Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) to advocate for paid family leave, according to Politico.

?I?m in my car. I?m driving. It says caller ID blocked. Honestly ? I thought it was Sen. Manchin. His calls come in blocked. And she goes 'Sen. Capito?' I said, 'Yes.' She said, 'This is Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex," Politico quoted Moore Capito as saying.

"Much to my surprise, she called me on my private line and she introduced herself as the Duchess of Sussex, which is kind of ironic," Collins told Politico's Senate reporter Marianne LeVine. ?I was happy to talk with her. But I?m more interested in what the people of Maine are telling me about it,"

    Democrats take on Manchin, make renewed push for family leave
    Manchin doubles down as House puts paid leave in spending bill


Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) had apparently given Meghan the numbers to the U.S senators.

"I talked to each of the women senators and let them know that she's going to reach out, because she only completed two of the calls," Gillibrand said, according to Politico. "She's going to call some others, so I let them know in advance."

^Politics is a dirty job.  IMO MM has been and continuously being set up (for a fail) by the same party she apparently wants to belong, Democratic. One can find this sentiment in US politics blogs.

The latest comment of Gillibrand.

''I wonder if actual citizens of New York are as able as *Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex* to get in touch with their own Senator for New York'', US Senator for NY Kirsten Gillibrand

The social media sentiment is 'How distasteful to call someones private phone number while she blocked hers, because she is so important'.  This is basically one way or the other with different wording is being said.

I'm afraid she just does not go down too well. Her public attitude, correct or not, is self righteous, condescending and fake. I realize that this may not be her true self; however, she should probably not be involved in politics.

The USA political forums and blogs say IF these politicians were really friendly/helpful with MM, they'd 💯 advice her to not use the English title.   :shrug:

Quote from: TLLK on November 04, 2021, 01:21:27 PM
Meghan has been cold calling Republican Senators regarding Paid Family Leave. I have no issue with her contacting representatives, but I strongly believe that she should be doing so as Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor and not as "Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex."

Meghan Markle personally called GOP senators to push paid leave: report | TheHill (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/579988-meghan-markle-personally-called-gop-senators-on-paid-leave-report)

Except that Mountbatten-Windsor is almost always used by descendants of Prince Philip (and their spouses) who do not possess a title (Dukedom) of their own.

Meghan has never used that surname, Harry hardly ever. Dukes sign names/documents with their territorial assignments like Suffolk, Fife etc, Royal Dukes usually sign with their first names, and occasionally territory (York, Gloucester etc.) Meghan shares her husband?s rank as his wife. Why should she be forced to sign a name that doesn?t belong to her simply to fulfil other people?s expectations?

Quote from: wannable on November 04, 2021, 03:52:12 PM
The USA political forums and blogs say IF these politicians were really friendly/helpful with MM, they'd 💯 advice her to not use the English title.   :shrug:

Why would GOP senators be friendly and helpful with Meghan or she with them? Ever since Trump insulted her she has not exactly been a great favourite of Republicans or of the right wing media, Fox News for example.

Meghan rang them in an attempt to appeal to their better natures to try and get a much needed measure through Congress that would benefit many thousands of US families. I believe it was a mistaken gesture. She needn?t have bothered. Most GOP representatives neither know nor care that the rest of the First World already have these paid parental laws in place. That says a great deal about them, IMO.

Quote from: Curryong on November 04, 2021, 04:19:56 PM
Except that Mountbatten-Windsor is almost always used by descendants of Prince Philip (and their spouses) who do not possess a title (Dukedom) of their own.

Meghan has never used that surname, Harry hardly ever. Dukes sign names/documents with their territorial assignments like Suffolk, Fife etc, Royal Dukes usually sign with their first names, and occasionally territory (York, Gloucester etc.) Meghan shares her husband?s rank as his wife. Why should she be forced to sign a name that doesn?t belong to her simply to fulfil other people?s expectations?

She can use Markle then or  simply  go by Meghan Sussex. As an American voter, I do not want member of the British Royal Family using their title when attempting to influence elected representatives of my government.

Quote from: TLLK on November 04, 2021, 04:54:31 PM
She can use Markle then or  simply  go by Meghan Sussex. As an American voter, I do not want member of the British Royal Family using their title when attempting to influence elected representatives of my government.

But Meghan is an American citizen and a voter herself. So as an American she is entitled to reach out to US representatives of ?her? Congress and Senate as well. Meghan hasn?t used Markle since she married. Both  she and Harry are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. They are also private citizens, living in the US, not working royals.

And so she should be using the usual venues available to all American citizens.  What gives her the idea she is special or privileged  to contact senators via private means.  I find this rather presumptuous of her. 

Quote from: Curryong on November 04, 2021, 05:14:48 PM
But Meghan is an American citizen and a voter herself. So as an American she is entitled to reach out to US representatives of ?her? Congress and Senate as well. Meghan hasn?t used Markle since she married. Both  she and Harry are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. They are also private citizens, living in the US, not working royals.

I am so angred by her actions  that I am stepping away from this discussion. 

Through gritted teeth the private numbers were given by Mrs. Clinton's orders.

1 senator explaining
1 senator amused

They did what boss Clinton asked, but it didn't stop these ladies to 'mock' several things; blocked phone number, usage of personal contact and questioning if their own citizens in their state can do it, wanting to know what their citizens think rather than MM. I mean each sentence is like a 🔪. 

I'm not shocked, I read from time to time, at least once a week, scroll through Political forums/blogs. As I said, Politics is a dirty job. You want in, there are humiliating things many do to pass a test, except those who studied poltics in Harvard, Princeton...these have a very smooth sailing, grades are like top notch and recruited by one of the parties.

So good luck to MM, she will really need it. She got angry with the BM, Royals.  Politics and media copy/pasting what these senators said is worst.

The real question is 'Why is Mrs. Clinton supporting Meghan?

That is huge, will it backfire?

Or is Meghan being used as a scapegoat?

CBS deleted the 2 hour Oprah interview this past Monday, it's gone! People worldwide before gone girl were able to watch the full interview in CBS website for free. Search Oprah, Search Meghan, Search Prince Harry in their website and Kaput, nada.

What is happening?

Where does it say Clinton directed this.  I?m not seeing it.  Thanks

Allegedly ordered  :shake:

BUT, Mrs. Clinton has supported Meghan in the past and

Kirsten (Democratic senator to NY) has publicly stated that she is very close to Hillary, and states it every single time they ask her/opportunity. Kirsten was the one who gave the R numbers to Meghan, to lobby.

Some things to consider Kristen from the Democratic party, Senator to NY mocked her too.

So, many points to ponder (I get the info from specialized political blogs/forums), link every story like we do with Royalty...

"Much to my surprise, she called me on my private line and introduced herself as the Duchess of Sussex, which is kind of ironic," Maine Republican @SenSusanCollins told journalists on Wednesday.

The irony is lost on Meghan

Why will Meghan need good luck? She was asking these GOP representatives to support a much needed measure in the Senate, not write her a cheque for a million dollars? I and my boss, as the result of our work have lobbied MLAs here dozens of times. Sometimes we?ve been rebuffed, sometimes not. It?s just par for the course. And neither of us intend to run for public office.

In spite of what the BM constantly reiterate, there is no evidence at all that Meghan wishes to enter politics as a Congresswoman or Senator. And it?s two GOP women who reacted in this way not a hundred. We don?t know how many senators of both Parties were contacted by Meghan and said nothing publicly or reacted favourably (Dems) and had a discussion with her. It is hardly likely to be just three persons out of the entire Senate.

Quote from: wannable on November 04, 2021, 06:46:11 PM


CBS deleted the 2 hour Oprah interview this past Monday, it's gone! People worldwide before gone girl were able to watch the full interview in CBS website for free. Search Oprah, Search Meghan, Search Prince Harry in their website and Kaput, nada.

What is happening?

Perhaps you could contact CBS and ask, if you are concerned?

It?s hardly likely to be because of complaints or bad ratings. That programme was repeated by CBS twice and was a ratings smash all over the world. It?s more likely to be a private arrangement between Oprah and the network. Nothing to do with the Sussexes.

https://honey.nine.com.au/royals/prince-harry-meghan-markle-return-to-spotlight-rewired-festival-new-york-times-panel/74aa9941-6b1d-4894-8d25-65dfffccb429

An article that is mostly about Harry and Meghan?s future speaking engagements next week. However?.

?Overnight, in a major shift, Pelosi announced that four weeks of paid family and medical leave will be added back into the social spending bill, after Democrats had previously scrapped the provision from the package.

Adding a version of the leave policies back into the package brings back to life a central and popular plank of US President Joe Biden's initial proposal.?

And this, from which it doesn?t appear that Meghan has been rebuffed at all.



https://www.thedailybeast.com/duches...d-family-leave

According to Politico, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) shared the two senators? phone numbers with the duchess. ?She wants to be part of a working group to work on paid leave long term, and she?s going to be,? said Sen. Gillibrand. ?Whether this comes to fruition now or later, she?ll be part of a group of women that hopefully will work on paid leave together.?

https://19thnews.org/2021/11/gillibr...ex-paid-leave/

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand gives an interview and spoke about Meghan.

"Gillibrand said she plans to invite Meghan to Washington, D.C., for a bipartisan dinner she is hosting in the coming month with all the women senators, a tradition Vice President Kamala Harris restarted this year, to give her a platform to discuss paid leave. Gillibrand said Sen. Deb Fisher, a Republican from Nebraska, told her she is ?delighted and looking forward to that conversation.?"

And, in more news/reaction in focusing attention on the parental leave bill?.


AOC praises under-fire Meghan Markle for successfully lobbying for paid family leave | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1951902.html)

Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez praised the Duchess of Sussex Meghan Markle for lobbying for paid family leave with Republicans, as Congress debates President Biden?s landmark social welfare package.

?I think every American being engaged in the process is a positive contribution to our outcome,? the congresswoman from New York told The Independent on Thursday.

Of course Meghan is praised by Democratic party members, same party as Mrs. Clinton. The specialized forums I referred too aren't wrong, hence my comments.  The dirty politics of giving ''private'' phone numbers of Republicans by a Democratic party member, which is not available for general public. 

@Curryong you said MM isn't running for public office, but then you link she's invited to be part of a ''working group''.  FYI, that is how entering politics starts. She passed the humiliating test of making cold calls to the opposing party members. It is not that easy to make a decision of using a ''private'' number whilst the rest of a State population do not have access but through the 'contact us' in a State website.  The working group according to your link is in Washington D.C. 

The bringing down of the trash talking of the Oprah show is bad publicity for MM's ambitions, IMO that is the reason it was taken down, with the hope people will forget. The timing with politically motivated letters, a trashing the family doesn't fit.

Invited to the ''Ladies (D) Senate Dinner in D.C.''. 

Popcorn time with the use of Duchess of Sussex.  :wink:

Quote from: wannable on November 05, 2021, 01:04:20 PM


@Curryong you said MM isn't running for public office, but then you link she's invited to be part of a ''working group''.  FYI, that is how entering politics starts. She passed the humiliating test of making cold calls to the opposing party members. It is not that easy to make a decision of using a ''private'' number whilst the rest of a State population do not have access but through the 'contact us' in a State website.  The working group according to your link is in Washington D.C. 

The bringing down of the trash talking of the Oprah show is bad publicity for MM's ambitions, IMO that is the reason it was taken down, with the hope people will forget. The timing with politically motivated letters, a trashing the family doesn't fit.

As Meghan is a lifelong Democrat (like her parents) her alignment is hardly surprising. Nevertheless, I just do not see Meghan making a run for the US Congress. Being a Senator or Congresswoman would be too constraining and too ?under the spotlight? year in, year out. In addition, other projects would have to be jettisoned.

On the other hand I can imagine her having ambitions to be a high-powered activist, invited to various groups, working and otherwise, within the Washington orbit and nationally/internationally.

Oprah?s Harpo Productions owns the rights to that interview. It wouldn?t have been pulled without Oprah?s say- so, whether Meghan wanted it gone or not, and I?m not convinced either way that she did.

It's hardly surprising that she is where she is because she married Prince Harry. 

99.9% sure she wouldn't have received a private number of senators being simple Meghan Markle.

One could say that about any married-in royal from all over the world. Would Sofia Hellqvist have been facilitated a role as Honorary Chair of SophiaHemmet (hospital) in Sweden in her life as a glamour model in men?s magazines?

What about Charlene of Monaco? Like Meghan she was reasonably well known, though as a sportswoman. She was a well known ex Olympic swimmer in South Africa but would she have achieved her role now as co-Patron of Giving Organisations Trust (SA charities) as Charlene Wittstock ? Or being constantly on the cover of European magazines as an ex swimmer? Extremely doubtful.

And in contemplating British royals, would anyone have even heard of Sarah Ferguson, Kate Middleton, Sophie Rhys-Jones, or Camilla Shand/Parker Bowles for example, if they hadn?t married royals? Would any person in public life be taking their calls?

Diana was an Earl?s daughter who was a nursery school aide. It was her marriage that shot her to international fame but it was what she did with that fame that left an enduring impression.

Glad we agree.  Although MM isn't using her married in status for the benefit of the constitutional monarchy of the United Kingdom.  She is using her married in status for personal gain, Megxit happened.

Meghan wasn?t calling these Senators for personal gain but to try and help get a measure through Congress and Senate which would assist hundreds of thousands of ordinary American families. Paid parental leave is a benefit enjoyed by most of the First World, with the exception of the US. She was calling on behalf of the Paid Leave for All organisation she?s been working for and in whose name she issued the letter that has been publicised.

And I?m glad you think all the married-in royals are so altruistic, never thinking of themselves, only of the constitutional monarchy. Never contemplating  of course of the wealth, status and luxurious lifestyle these marriages have brought them. Especially when some of the people I mentioned barely worked before marriage.

And what benefit to the monarchy has Fergie, for instance, brought to the party? Plus there are plenty who think of Camilla and her private life in her first marriage, her effect on Charles and Diana?s union and just shudder at the idea that she might be Queen. The jury is still out with the British public on whether Camilla is such a great prize.

Please make sure Meghan and Harry remain the topic of discussion.  Last few posts are mentioning other royals - further discussion of those individuals should be on their threads.  Though, if you want a place to discuss and compare married in royals, we are happy to facilitate that with a new thread somewhere.   

Harry and Meghan aren't royal workers. If the Sussexes were, they'd have an abode in one of the crown estates, all the household expenses (personnel), salary (H&M) and others (like clothing) paid by the Duchy of Cornwall.

Therefore, the couple have to make moneys for 'personal gain', whatever it is they do since November Oprah 2020, this date because they decided to trash Harry's family, with 17 lies which are public knowledge. No need to repeat those lies because as stated ^ I am making sure the discussion is strictly about Harry and Meghan.

Their hired PR company makes sure to share all and any news with a media outlet that then shares with the Sussexes dislike media outlets.

Meghan MIGHT invest with her own moneys to do whatever she's going to do in Washington D.C. OR reported by Sunshine sponsored clothing, jet owner, security, etc.  The investment one makes NEEDS to have RETURNS...if not, an expert will tell one, that was a bad investment. :shrug:

What has all that to do with the latest news about Meghan, her phoning the US Senators on behalf of Paid Leave for All? That was to try to help get a measure through the Senate that would help others, ordinary people who suffer financial disadvantage when they become parents in the US. That has nothing to do with Meghan?s  personal investments in any products, whether sponsored or otherwise. Or with the Oprah interview.

Wasn't it 'published'? Wasn't it 'handed out' by the Sussexes hired publishing company?

If your answer is yes, there is something to gain. 

More than 400 organizations and individuals wrote months before MM, hers was published. Gain: an invitation to D.C. IF she's successful in D.C. which I wouldn't doubt, she's smart and very ambitious...a great personal gain may come through.

That letter was joined, as I pointed out at the time, to dozens of labour and private organisations that were lobbying Congress for the bill. I linked several.

Not everything that is ?made public? is for personal gain. Meghan, like every other human being on the face of the earth, is capable of acting altruistically, of believing in causes greater than oneself and backing those causes, and organisations and charities. And she has done so on many occasions.

Perhaps if she wouldn't use her title in her personal quests more people would believe in the honesty of being altruistic?!

Quote from: wannable on November 05, 2021, 06:29:23 PM
Perhaps if she wouldn't use her title in her personal quests more people would believe in the honesty of being altruistic?!

Personal quests? Lobbying for something you believe in!!

Meghan doesn?t have a title. Harry does. As Harry?s wife she is entitled to the styling of Duchess. This has been discussed over and over, here. Ie all wives in the UK or who are married to UK citizens are entitled to the status and stylings used by their husband, whether that means Mr, Sir, Baron, Visvount,  Earl, Marquess, Duke.

She has not been Meghan Markle since May 2018. She is not a Mountbatten Windsor as that is restricted to people who do not possess or title or styling of their own. 

?The royal family's website states that "The Queen's descendants, other than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince/Princess, or female descendants who marry, would carry the name of Mountbatten-Windsor." Which is why Archie (who doesn't have a title!) uses the last name and Harry (who is a Prince!) does not.?

So why would Meghan use a name she shed on her wedding day, or a name like Mountbatten-Windsor, which, as a royal Duke Harry does not have. Technically he would sign documents as just ?Harry? as his brother does with ?William? or ?Sussex?.

She's been caught lying so it's an individual perception of intentions.

Quote from: wannable on November 05, 2021, 09:44:37 PM
She's been caught lying so it's an individual perception of intentions.

In other words, those that like Meghan and the Sussexes are favourable regarding their intentions. And those that don?t like them aren?t.

Quote from: Curryong on November 05, 2021, 10:18:18 PM
In other words, those that like Meghan and the Sussexes are favourable regarding their intentions. And those that don?t like them aren?t.

It's a question of trust, She broke it, so it's hard for me to believe in her intentions as an altruistic person.

Meghan using royal title to interfere in American politics, say courtiers.

Sunday Times: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meghan-using-royal-title-to-interfere-in-american-politics-say-courtiers-fwlddgrsq

Archive version: https://archive.ph/0T3ZA

The Duke of Sussex, 37, will be attending the Salute to Freedom gala on a warship in New York on November 10 where he will present five medals.

Where to start with Harry's internet disinformation zoom meeting ?!  :laugh:

Quote from: wannable on November 08, 2021, 06:35:18 PM
The Duke of Sussex, 37, will be attending the Salute to Freedom gala on a warship in New York on November 10 where he will present five medals.

Harry and Meghan arriving
https://twitter.com/i/status/1458581204941348870

https://twitter.com/i/status/1458584226555695104

https://twitter.com/i/status/1458581036250587139

I love it when Meghan ditches the monochrome and wears something cheerful like red. It?s Remembrance Day here in Oz (the 11th of the 11th Armistice Day Commemoration) with red poppies playing a vital role, so red is very appropriate IMO. She looks fabulous, and Harry is wearing his medals I see. And Meghan stating she is ?always proud of him? (her husband) underscores how close this couple are.

Information about the gala and it?s purpose.

https://mobile.twitter.com/scobie/status/1458585830214225926?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


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For those asking, support from the gala helps the non-profit
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offer educational experiences to over 50,000 students each year and provide programs to help veterans reintegrate into civilian life, build connection and community, and address mental health.

Quote from: wannable on November 10, 2021, 11:56:00 PM
Harry and Meghan arriving
https://twitter.com/i/status/1458581204941348870

https://twitter.com/i/status/1458584226555695104

https://twitter.com/i/status/1458581036250587139

Thank you for the photos.

Somehow with yesterday's news and the Intrepid Gala, this seems to have been overlooked.

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Today, Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex, Co-founder of Archewell, joined a critical dialogue at RE:WIRED, a virtual gathering for world-renowned technology experts, scientists, and creatives.  As part of a panel titled ?The Internet Lie Machine,? The Duke was in conversation with Rashad Robinson, President of Color of Change, Ren?e DiResta, Technical Research Manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, and Steven Levy, Editor-at-Large at WIRED. Together, the group had an honest and compelling discussion about what lies on the internet do to our communities, democracies, societies, the natural world, and ourselves.

In an era when social media algorithms reward shock value over reality, media sensationalism runs rampant, and misinformation blurs the line between fact and fiction, Prince Harry and Rashad ? who both serve on the  Aspen Institute Commission on Information Disorder ?  highlighted the toll they?ve seen these systems take on the world and outlined steps that can be taken across government, industry, and civil society to repair the digital world. DiResta, who The Duke worked with last year for a special series examining the state of our digital world, gave insight into the rise of digital propaganda and how misinformation propagates and spreads across every waking moment of our lives.

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Quote from: Curryong on November 05, 2021, 04:01:12 PM
Meghan wasn?t calling these Senators for personal gain but to try and help get a measure through Congress and Senate which would assist hundreds of thousands of ordinary American families. Paid parental leave is a benefit enjoyed by most of the First World, with the exception of the US. She was calling on behalf of the Paid Leave for All organisation she?s been working for and in whose name she issued the letter that has been publicised.

And I?m glad you think all the married-in royals are so altruistic, never thinking of themselves, only of the constitutional monarchy. Never contemplating  of course of the wealth, status and luxurious lifestyle these marriages have brought them. Especially when some of the people I mentioned barely worked before marriage.

And what benefit to the monarchy has Fergie, for instance, brought to the party? Plus there are plenty who think of Camilla and her private life in her first marriage, her effect on Charles and Diana?s union and just shudder at the idea that she might be Queen. The jury is still out with the British public on whether Camilla is such a great prize.

WE have paid maternity .
WE already have this.
I have been even working in someone?s maternity leave. The person left, WITH FULL PAY, MEDICAL BENEFITS, 4 months ago.

WE ALREADY HAVE THIS .

From Camilla Tominey: How the Palace tried to rescue 'Duchess Difficult'.

Original: How the Palace tried to rescue 'Duchess Difficult' (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/11/12/palace-tried-rescue-duchess-difficult/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1636746496)

Archive version: https://archive.ph/Fb5Zf

?Rescued?? I wouldn?t describe Jason Knauf?s repulsively sympathetic emails to Meghan, including agreeing with all she said about her father several times, as any sort of rescue. And Camilla knew nothing about that series of exchanges by email until they came out in the court papers. Just rehashing it all over again for her readers in The Telegraph once again.

And, as for referring to Meghan as ?Duchess Difficult? that?s an expression coined by her tabloid mates. It wasn?t what she was calling her when she used to proudly refer to herself on her Twitter page as ?the writer who broke the news of Prince Harry?s romance.?

I think lunch at DC with the female democrats to discuss the subject of rallying Paternity Maternity Leave is or will be cancelled.

Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on November 13, 2021, 05:23:34 PM
From Camilla Tominey: How the Palace tried to rescue 'Duchess Difficult'.

Original: How the Palace tried to rescue 'Duchess Difficult' (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/11/12/palace-tried-rescue-duchess-difficult/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1636746496)

Archive version: https://archive.ph/Fb5Zf

Thank you for sharing the article.  It's become more evident to me especially after last week's new information that the Sussexes were choosing not to follow the advice of their experienced staff. Also when the Duchess made claims of not feeling supported that there was an expectation that "support " meant that staff or the BRF didn't always  agree with the couples' decisions.

Prince Harry, Meghan Markle won't join frail Queen Elizabeth for Christmas
Meghan Markle, Harry won't join Queen Elizabeth for Christmas (https://pagesix.com/2021/11/17/meghan-markle-harry-wont-join-queen-elizabeth-for-christmas/)

The BP Lunch will be rather held at Windsor Castle this year because of the ongoing construction rehab at BP.  Christmas as usual, Sandringham.

Page Six claims that the Queen had extended an invitation to the Sussex family, which the couple rejected.

Quote from: FanDianaFancy on November 13, 2021, 04:09:51 PM
WE have paid maternity .
WE already have this.
I have been even working in someone?s maternity leave. The person left, WITH FULL PAY, MEDICAL BENEFITS, 4 months ago.

WE ALREADY HAVE THIS .

Reports are coming in that the talks have  stalled due to Gillibrand's breach of protocol by sharing the personal phone numbers with the Duchess.

I remember Sen Collins' remark about receiving a blocked number call from Meghan and thinking that doesn't seem very polite. Cold calling a US Senator.

Sen Gillibrand shouldn't have given out the numbers in the first place. 

Quote from: TLLK on November 18, 2021, 07:40:31 PM
Reports are coming in that the talks have  stalled due to Gillibrand's breach of protocol by sharing the personal phone numbers with the Duchess.

That is the excuse, hence Washington DC lunch and meeting has been cancelled.  Although Political blogs/forums in the USA think it has to do with the latest kerfuffle with the court of law in the UK, which is a serious controversy with perjury. Basically, IF the DC thing had happened the news will surely be tied in a knot by the media about last week's Jason event. It's very much inevitable. So the key and target of parental leave would be secondary, which is not the desire the ladies in DC want.

Today was the first day a serious newspaper has published Meghan Markle's court issues, mentioning she lied.

The Los Angeles Times (abbreviated as LA Times) is a daily newspaper based in El Segundo, California, which has been published in Los Angeles, California, since 1881. It has the fifth-largest circulation in the U.S., and is the largest American newspaper not headquartered on the East Coast. The paper focuses its coverage of issues particularly salient to the West Coast, such as immigration trends and natural disasters. It has won more than 40 Pulitzer Prizes for its coverage of these and other issues.

Protecting Prince Harry and his family during visits to Canada cost Canadian taxpayers more than $334,000 over a period of less than four years, CBC News has learned.

Records obtained by CBC News from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police under the Access to Information Act show that security related to Harry's visits between April 1, 2017 and March 31, 2018 cost taxpayers $182,430. That sum covered things like overtime and travel costs but not the salaries of police officers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/prince-harry-rcmp-protection-1.6276872

Does anyone know if the December dinner that the Duchess was reportedly invited to by Senator Gillibrand has taken place?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gillibrand-plans-invite-meghan-markle-dinner-female-senators/story?id=80999058

QuoteSen. Kirstin Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said she plans to invite Meghan Markle, the Duchess of Sussex, to Washington, D.C., for a bipartisan dinner with female senators in the next month to discuss paid leave.

In an interview with The 19th, Gillibrand said Markle called her to help ensure that paid leave stays in the final version of the social spending bill. In return, the senator extended an invitation for dinner in December.

If it happens, Sunshine Sach will notify the world.

I've checked "The Hill" which typically runs a calendar of upcoming and past events and have found nothing about the bipartisan dinner that Senator Gillabrand had mentioned wanting to invited the Duchess of Sussex to attend.

Senator Gillibrand had indicated that it would be held in December 2021.
Sen. Gillibrand wants to invite Meghan Markle to dinner with women senators to discuss paid family leave | Business Insider India (https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/sen-gillibrand-wants-to-invite-meghan-markle-to-dinner-with-women-senators-to-discuss-paid-family-leave/articleshow/87574196.cms)

What happens in the 'chapter' will be very telling of their now new found hot desire to go back to the UK.

As a royal watcher, it will be facinating...just because the US trash magazines say they are completely broke.

That application to the HO was made four months ago, probably after the Jubilee invite went out from the Queen. If they were so anxious to go to the UK they could have gone and stayed at FC over Xmas. The fact that in over four months not one move has been made by the Sussexes to say that they want to return to the UK.

And since when did trashy mags like the National Inquirer and the Star have any credibility about member of the BRF, whatsoever?

As I said, as a royal watcher the next 3 to 6 months will be very telling to the Sussex's desire to come back home, UK.

^  Bot Sentinel CEO Christopher Bouzy has been exposed by his own daughter. The situation of what he has done is so bad, it's imposible to post it all (all = really bad stuff that would need family friendly transcriptions) in this family RIF site.

To keep it family friendly in the RIF, BOT SENTINEL, all of what he claims is fake.

Reportedly some of the residents of Montecito including the area where the Sussexes, the Perry/Orlando household and others are dealing with some pungent odors from a nearby bird sanctuary. According to local news, this has been an ongoing concern for decades depending upon the water levels and as the lake goes through periodic algae blooms which later die off.

Santa Barbara - Andree Clark Bird Refuge Restoration (https://www.santabarbaraca.gov/gov/depts/parksrec/creeks/restore/birdrefuge.asp)

Siteline Improvements Proposed for the Andr?e Clark Bird Refuge (https://www.sitelinesb.com/improvements-proposed-for-the-andree-clark-bird-refuge/)

Prince Harry and Meghan's Montecito mansion 'engulfed by stomach-churning' smell' - CoventryLive (https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/uk-world-news/prince-harry-meghans-montecito-mansion-23002797)

QuoteThe multi-million pound California mansion home of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle ?s is being engulfed by an stomach-churning whiff from a nearby bird refuge.

The awful smell has also hit the properties of A-list neighbours Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom, it has been reported. And it has been added to a lengthening list of woes affecting the couple's Hollywood lifestyle.

A local in Montecito said: ?It smells like offal that has been rotting in the sun. It makes my stomach churn. I?ve seen lots of homeowners closing their windows when it wafts over.?

The stench is coming from the Andr?e Clark Bird Refuge, a 42-acre saltwater marsh, the Mirror reports.

Quote from: Curryong on October 26, 2021, 08:44:52 PM
Twitter Data Reveals Meghan Markle And Prince Harry Hate Campaign (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/bot-sentinel-meghan-markle-prince-harry-twitter)

Report from Buzzfeed on an organised campaign of harassment of the Sussexes by a couple of hundred posters on Twitter. Twitter has promised to investigate.

In the report, Bot Sentinel includes examples of tweets from this group of 83 users that violate Twitter?s terms of service against targeted harassment. BuzzFeed News received an advance copy of the Bot Sentinel report and the list of users identified within it and found hundreds of additional tweets that violate Twitter?s rules.

Twitter?s terms of service forbid abusive behavior and engagement ?that harasses or intimidates, or is otherwise intended to shame or degrade others? and prohibit social coordination between accounts that results in harm to others or that encourages dogpiling.

Bouzy emphasized that the negative Twitter activity is not fueled by automated bot accounts, but real accounts run by humans.

Bot Sentinel identified 55 ?primary accounts? responsible for the vast majority of original and derivative negative content against Meghan. Another 28 users were flagged as ?secondary accounts? that primarily amplify the tweets of the first group. According to Bot Sentinel?s analysis, these 83 accounts are responsible for 70% of the negative hate content targeting the couple on Twitter. In the report, Bot Sentinel estimates that the accounts have a combined potential reach of at least 17 million Twitter users.

Terrible! If this proves to be true but wasn't racial in nature, then making the names public may be the only really effective punishment and deterrent to others so inclined.  if proved to be racial in nature, then of course there are more serious punishments ahead. 

It will be interesting to see what the investigation reveals. Are the accounts  being investigated by Twitter truly racist  in nature or are these accounts merely critical of the couple?

Speculation story but it does have some insight from residents of Montecito.

What?s next for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle? | Evening Standard (https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/prince-harry-meghan-markle-montecito-mansion-california-life-b981179.html)

QuoteWhile settling into the rhythm of life in coastal California, where they share a $14.7 million estate, the couple have kept a low profile, besides the odd shopping trip or Zoom conference ? Meghan is a regular at Montecito Country Mart, a shopping village boasting designer children?s clothing boutique Poppy. But that?s all set to change.

?I can understand them locking down during the pandemic, as many people have, to keep their kids safe but I think as we come out of this crisis we?ll be seeing more of them in the community,? says former Royal correspondent Richard Mineards, who lives near the couple in Montecito. ?Harry?s been out on his bicycle and walking his adopted Labrador on Miramar Beach and she?s been out shopping in both the upper village and lower village and they seem to be very, very happy as far as I can see.?

According to this article from the Daily Telegraph, the Sussexes plan to renew their lease on Frogmore Cottage in order to continue serving the Queen.

https://archive.vn/fTqjY

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The Duke of Sussex has renewed his soon-to-expire lease on Frogmore Cottage and will continue to be allowed to deputise for the Queen, the Telegraph understands.
The Duke, who lives in California but is still a UK citizen, is eligible to serve his grandmother as one of her four Counsellors of State because he qualifies as being domiciled in Britain thanks to his old Windsor address.
He and the Duchess have had to decide whether to renew the lease, which expires on March 31. The Telegraph understands they plan to continue the arrangement.
Until now, that decision has been considered a matter for the Sussex family, with the Duke this week insisting he still considers the UK ?home?, but that he feels unsafe visiting due to unresolved security arrangements.
Through lawyers, he has emphasised his wish to return to Britain to see his family and friends, as well as his old charity patronages, but has so far returned on only a small handful of occasions since moving his family to California.
A spokeswoman for the Duke of Sussex said: "There are no planned changes to the current arrangement."

In September 2020, the Sussexes paid back ?2.4 million for the renovations to Frogmore Cottage, including rent up to March 2022 in a complicated arrangement detailed only in part in the palace annual accounts.
Princess Eugenie, Jack Brooksbank and their son August are reported to have been living there while her cousin is in LA.
Details of Prince Harry?s UK living arrangements have unexpectedly become a constitutional matter, the Telegraph has learned, thanks to his role as one of the Queen?s four remaining Counsellors of State.
A source with extensive knowledge of the legal issues said Counsellors must only be "domiciled" in the UK, with two historic examples of individuals who lived abroad while remaining in the role: one against his will as a prisoner of war and the other working in a realm.
As the four adults next in line to the throne, the Prince of Wales, Duke of Cambridge, Duke of Sussex and Duke of York can undertake some of the Queen?s duties at her request should she fall temporarily ill.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Take Princess Eugenie to Dinner in Santa Barbara (https://www.tmz.com/2022/02/22/prince-harry-meghan-markle-princess-eugenie-jack-brooksbank-dinner/?adid=social-twa)

And Jack. All four seem to be having a wonderful time. Hope the meal was delicious! And back at the house August would be enjoying the company of his second cousins, Archie and Lilli.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be honored at the 53rd NAACP Image awards this upcoming Sunday.

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/meghan-prince-harry-receive-honor-naacp-image-awards-83091552

QuoteLOS ANGELES -- Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, will receive the President?s Award during the 53rd NAACP Image Awards this weekend.

The NAACP announced Thursday that it had selected Prince Harry and Meghan who have ?heeded the call to social justice? and joined the "struggle for equity? in the U.S. and around the world.

The couple will be given the award during the Feb. 26 ceremony that will be televised on BET.

Previous recipients include Jay-Z, Muhammad Ali, Rihanna, LeBron James and Jesse Jackson.

NAACP President Derrick Johnson said Prince Harry and Meghan have inspired the next generation of activists through the NAACP-Archewell Digital Civil Rights Awards. It?s a newly created award that recognizes leaders creating change within the social justice and technology realm to advance civil and human rights

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...the NAACP-Archewell Digital Civil Rights Awards. It's a newly created award that recognizes leaders creating change within the social justice and technology realm to advance civil and human rights.

They are awarding 'themselves'  :happy15:

I agree. It's Sunshine Sachs. 

Honestly it's off-putting.

(It's like IF William awarded himself for creating the 'new awards' for Earthshot Price, thank the universe, God, stars the panel awards the 'hard' working people worldwide, including a minor age girl who is innovative).

So.  They got the Presidential Award which is for special achievement and distinguished public service.   The new award that Archwell is involved with is something different and won by Dr. Safiya Noble, an internet studies scholar and Professor of Gender Studies and African American Studies at the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA).   

I had them conflated in my mind and thought they were getting the award they created.   Still weird that they get the other award the year they created the other.  Comes across as rewarding themselves or buying the favour. 

The NAACP is an historic and much admired organisation that has meant something for many decades in the arena of civil rights and (what it was formed for) ?the advancement of coloured peoples in the US?. I remember its actions during from the era of Dr Martin Luther King, (one of my heroes, incidentally) and the Civil Rights movement.

I believe it to be extremely doubtful (to the point of impossibility) that this organisation and the committee within it responsible for giving these awards would be giving any prize to Harry and Meghan as some kind of reward or favour for sponsoring a separate winner.

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Receive Honor at NAACP Image Awards | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-honored-naacp-image-awards/)

Meghan Markle's Mom Doria Ragland Joins Daughter at NAACP Image Awards | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markles-mother-doria-ragland-joins-daughter-and-prince-harry-at-naacp-image-awards/)

Meghan Markle stuns in blue gown as she and Prince Harry's accept award - see photos | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220227134052/meghan-markle-prince-harry-naacp-image-awards/)

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry ?deeply humbled? to accept prestigious NAACP award | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1572564/Meghan-Markle-prince-harry-naacp-president-award-ont)

Meghan Markle says George Floyd's death 'invoked centuries of unhealed wounds' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/meghan-markle-says-george-floyds-26340069)

Prince Harry offers support to Ukraine as he and Meghan collect prestigious award - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/prince-harry-offers-support-ukraine-26339988)

Meghan Markle news latest - Prince Harry & Duchess pick up prestigious award as Duke acknowledges people of Ukraine (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17753035/meghan-markle-prince-harry-latest-news/)

The NAACP and Meghan and Harry share Sunshine Sachs as PR.. just saying.

Meaningless, awarding themselves.

The overexposure (since they left the BRF with Sunshine Sach) is great, their brand takes the hit - their own self created damage is better seen by the megasugars.

ETA: IF they were goodwilled, I wouldn't have said this sentence, BUT their intentions are very well historically timeline framed from real and official registrations, doings, etc. hence the comment. IOW, evil thursty users with no care of ghosting (probably even hurting mentally) anyone.

Camilla Tominey reflects upon on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's year twelve months after their interview with Oprah Winfrey.

archive.ph (https://archive.ph/A6ccr)

QuoteWe have been brought together for a reason,? declared Prince Harry, praising his ?incredible? wife as they accepted a top accolade at last month?s annual NAACP Image awards.
Appearing together at a public event for the first time in weeks to accept the President's Award, which recognises special achievement and distinguished public service, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex once again reaffirmed their ?shared commitment to a life of service?.
?I think it's safe to say I come from a very different background to my incredible wife, yet our lives were brought together for a reason,? said Harry.
Meghan added: ?I couldn't be prouder that we're doing this work together.?
Twelve months on from their Oprah Winfrey interview, however, and onlookers could be forgiven for wondering what exactly it is that the couple are doing after a year that, well, wasn?t.

The NAACP, which stands for the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People, was set up in 1909 in response to ongoing violence against black people. Previous winners of the prestigious President?s Award include boxing legend Muhammed Ali and former US Secretaries of State, Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell. Eyebrows have therefore been raised, not just at the Sussexes? comparatively modest achievements but also the fact that the media for the NAACP Image Awards is managed by Sunshine Sachs, a New York-based PR firm that has been advising Meghan for years.
While there is no suggestion either party has exerted any undue influence, it is perhaps telling that apart from NAACP, it is unclear who else considers Harry and Meghan?s year to have been particularly prize-winning, despite their self-styled status as two of the world?s leading philanthropists.
Indeed, despite their bombshell revelations to the US chat show host, even Oprah missed out on a coveted Emmy last year, losing the award for Outstanding Hosted Nonfiction Series or Special to Stanley Tucci: Searching for Italy. (The 90-minute prime time blockbuster didn?t win a Television Critics Association Award or a People?s Choice Award either.)

This is despite millions around the world tuning in on March 7, 2021 to hear Meghan discuss her suicidal thoughts, accuse the Royal family of racism and blame the Duchess of Cambridge for making her cry at a bridesmaids? dress fitting, when I had previously reported that the reverse had happened.

In the interview, which came the year after the couple announced their decision to step down as working members of ?The Firm? in January 2020, they also suggested they ?didn?t have a plan? when they moved to the US and had to seek commercial opportunities because, as Harry put it, ?my family literally cut me off?.
Notwithstanding the fact that they held meetings surrounding ?well-developed proposals? with the now-defunct streaming service Quibi a year before their departure, meeting with Jeffrey Katzenberg and other executives throughout 2019, there was a sense that they were gearing up to go solo and unleash an exciting new Sussex era.
As the website for their Archewell website, launched in January 2021, breathlessly stated: ?EACH OF US can CHANGE our COMMUNITIES. ALL OF US can CHANGE THE WORLD.?
Yet apart from their various legal wranglings with the press, and more recently, the Home Office, which Harry is suing over the loss of their police protection (he has offered to pay for it), the ?shared purpose and global action? that was promised has not quite materialised.
o be fair to the Duchess, she has spent much of the past year on maternity leave after giving birth to their second child, Lilibet, on June 4, 2021. The Queen is still to meet her great-granddaughter, with a reunion looking unlikely until Harry solves his security concerns.

At this stage it seems highly unlikely that the couple will attend the Duke of Edinburgh?s memorial service at the end of the month ? with their presence at June?s Platinum Jubilee celebrations also in doubt. It is fair to say Royal relations across the pond haven?t exactly been helped by news that Harry is publishing his warts-and-all autobiography this autumn, a move that has reportedly prompted the ?exasperated? 95-year-old monarch to instruct her lawyers, fearing further ?attacks? on the monarchy.
While Prince Charles is thought to be in regular contact with his youngest son, Harry?s relationship with William has still not recovered from Oprah, after he suggested both his father and his brother felt ?trapped? in the Royal family. As one source put it: ?As the Queen has always said, they remain much loved members of the family but it?s not been easy. It?s hard enough for any family to get along but when such intimate details are made public on prime time TV? It?s difficult to put that genie back in the bottle.?
Whether Meghan will ever return to the UK remains to be seen.
Absent from Prince Philip?s funeral last April because of her pregnancy, the first time we saw the Duchess after Oprah was when she made a cameo appearance in the first official trailer for The Me You Can?t See, an Apple TV docuseries featuring Harry, Lady Gaga and Glenn Close.


It came less than a year after the couple signed a multi-million dollar deal to make shows for Netflix in September 2020 ? a move that is yet to herald any programming, although two series, Heart of Invictus about Harry?s Invictus Games initiative, and an animated show called Pearl, about a girl inspired by influential women throughout history, are thought to be in the pipeline.
So what else have they done?
Just days after 7lb 11oz ?Lili? was born at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital, Meghan released her children?s book The Bench, inspired by a Father?s Day poem she wrote for Harry. It became a New York Times (NYT) bestseller within a week of release.
Two months later, on her 40th birthday on August 4, she filmed a video with the US actress Melissa McCarthy to launch her 40x40 mentorship campaign, saying: ?Over two million women in the US alone and tens of millions around the world have lost their jobs due to Covid, and I think if we all do it and all commit 40 minutes to some sort of act of service, we can create a ripple effect.? Although celebrities including Adele, Katie Couric and Sarah Paulson participated, there has so far been little evidence that it has sparked the intended ?global wave of service,? despite its undoubtedly noble aims.

Yet the move, along with the Sussexes? other charitable efforts, was enough to win them a place on TIME?s list of 100 Most Influential People a month later, with chef and humanitarian Jose Andres declaring: ?They don?t just opine. They run toward the struggle.?
Days later, they made their first joint public appearance since their daughter?s birth to participate in Global Citizen Live, a 24-hour event broadcast live from New York?s Central Park. Aimed at promoting equal access to the Covid vaccine and featuring an all-star line-up, from Ed Sheeran to Lizzo to Elton John, the event saw the couple meet with New York Governor Kathy Hochul and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio. Harry told the cheering crowds: ?Since this pandemic began we've been talking to experts about how we can do our part. This week we sat with independent global health leaders to further understand how we get closer to vaccine equity and ending this crisis.
?But we are battling more than a virus, this is a battle of misinformation, bureaucracy, lack of transparency, and lack of access. And above all, a human rights crisis.?

Their participation in the high-profile event came after Global Citizen won Organisation of the Year at the 2021 American Business Awards, known as The Stevies, after being nominated by none other than? Sunshine Sachs.
Meghan then made a rare public appearance at the NYT Dealbook Conference when she urged people not to read the tabloids, suggesting ?they come with a warning label like cigarettes do?.
The couple then returned to the Big Apple for November?s Salute to Freedom Gala, which honours military veterans for their service, with Meghan stunning in a bright red dress by Carolina Herrera, featuring a deep neckline, dramatic train and fitted bodice.

The next we saw of the couple, after the Duchess won her privacy case against the Mail on Sunday in December, was via their black and white Christmas card, which read: ?This year, 2021, we welcomed our daughter, Lilibet, to the world. Archie made us a ?Mama? and a ?Papa?, and Lili made us a family.?
Such a low key professional presence might suggest that the Duke and Duchess have been busier in their private lives but all the evidence points to it being similarly sedate.
Harry provided his own clue to what life is like Chez Sussex when he revealed in February that he sets aside about 45 minutes every morning to ?build resilience? and meditate.
Addressing an online conference in his role as chief impact officer of BetterUp, a mental wellness app, he admitted he had personally experienced burnout after ?burning the candle at both ends?, before he learnt how to embrace what he described as ?inner work?.
It is an apt description for a life that ? despite their very public protestations about media intrusion ? appears to operate very much below radar. Part of the reason there have been so few paparazzi pictures of the couple is that they are still thought to be in a legal wrangle with one agency over shots taken in their previous Beverly Hills home, which they rented from US actor Tyler Perry.
Although the couple have shared information about Archie?s new chicken coop and their new dog Pula (which means ?hope? in Harry?s beloved Botswana), by all accounts Harry and Meghan have been conspicuous by their absence in Montecito, where they bought a $14.65 million (?11 million) mansion in the summer of 2020.
So private was the transaction that their names do not appear on the deeds. Instead the nine-bedroom, 16-bathroom property was sold to a trust that shares an address with the offices of Meghan?s Hollywood business manager Andrew Meyer.
Russian businessman Sergey Grishin bought the estate in 2009 for $25.3 million (?19 million) and tried selling it for over a decade before finally accepting a $10 million (?7.5 million) plus loss.
As the Montecito Journal reported in January: ?This one was started by a hopeful realtor listing a property in Birnam, who wanted to gin up interest in it, but had no idea that worldwide press would jump on anything that mentions these two.? Surrounded by eight acres of lush green gardens and overlooking the sea, the couple appear understandably reluctant to leave the comfort of the sprawling property, which also has a wine cellar, a pub games room and a gym where Meghan does her personal training, apparently with the help of a Pilates reformer machine.
Indicating its support for Harry and Meghan, who it gratefully reported were the ?first to donate? to the town?s First Annual Montecito Holiday Car Parade of Lights in December, The Montecito Journal added: ?We?re pretty good around here at respecting people?s privacy. Realtors who want to overhype a listing ? be warned.?
Yet despite its commendable loyalty, the local newspaper does not appear to get everything right. Despite exclusively revealing last September that Harry ?has been honing his mallet skills ?stick and balling? at the Santa Barbara Polo Club,? an employee of the club confirmed he has never played there ? although he has apparently been spotted running through the polo fields.
He has, however, introduced Archie, two, to the sport beloved of his great-grandmother, the Queen, according to Richard Mineards, who writes about social events. As he reported last August: ??My niece just gave Archie his first riding lesson,? a friend of mine whispered to me at my birthday party in July. ?She was thrilled but won?t give any of the details?. We both knew the elegant private stables where her niece is the riding master. But we won?t tell where it is.?
Around the same time, Mineards also reported in Georgetowner, a small Washington DC area paper, that the media frenzy surrounding the couple?s arrival in the exclusive ?celebrity enclave? had died down, adding: ?The sightings are rare. Harry is seen occasionally driving through the village in his Range Rover and walking his dog on the beach. But Meghan is rarely seen. Many in Montecito are disappointed they haven?t been more involved in the community ? though that may be because of the pandemic.?
It is said the family has been spotted riding bikes on the Santa Barbara boardwalk, and last March they posted video footage of Archie playing on the beach. They are also thought to have dined at Lucky?s Steakhouse, a restaurant popular with locals and area celebrities, where a 12oz filet mignon will set you back $95 (?71).
Speaking to The Telegraph, he revealed that when the Oscar Meyer wienermobile, a giant yellow and orange car hot dog-shaped car, was in Montecito, ?Harry spied it, approached it and requested that he drive it and he did.? Mineards chuckles: ?Harry must?ve wanted to be a HOT dog!?
Yet contrary to the suggestion they have not  been very community-minded, they joined The Montecito Association as soon as they arrived, although they are not on the board and it is understood that they do not attend meetings.
According to former board member Kathy King: ?They?ve sponsored a few events and been supportive of Montecito Association events like the holiday parades.?
Confirming they had joined the nonprofit community association, its executive director Sharon Byrne adds: ?They showed up at the July 4 parade in 2021. They waved at everyone and were very casual, just like everyone else.?
One neighbour who has lived near the Sussexes? property for decades has never seen them: ?I?ve only ever seen their security; no sightings of them on their road at all. I used to walk that mile every night.? 

They were first spotted there in October 2020 when they joined music mogul David Foster and his actress wife Katharine McPhee for a meal after the pair announced they were expecting their first child together. Other celebrities in their social circle apparently include Orlando Bloom and Katy Perry, but they never talk about them publicly. Interestingly both couples, along with the Sussexes? other good friends, George and Amal Clooney, are thought to support a campaign to bring in a privacy law for California protecting their families from being photographed by the media without consent.
Harry and Meghan have also dined at Caruso?s, a fine dining Italian restaurant that is part of Montecito?s luxury Rosewood Miramar Beach Hotel where flip-flops are considered ?too informal.? But, according to one source, they have not ventured into Los Angeles much, despite their A-list status.
?The Sussexes are rarely seen in LA and certainly not in the Hollywood party scene,? says the source. ?They have ducked offers from all major ceremonies including Golden Globes. BAFTA LA has not had any dealings with the Sussexes either.?
BAFTA LA would be well placed to connect Harry and Meghan to companies and stars doing major business in Hollywood ? although one stumbling block may be that Prince William is the organisation?s president.
According to another insider: ?Harry and Meghan only move when they need to. The pair like to use their home as an office and base camp even though they have business offices in downtown LA, which is 100 minutes away by car.?
No one in LA-related circles appears aware of the ?arrangements for their business deals?. However a Sunshine Sachs insider noted that there is ?concern? that Prince Andrew's out of court settlement with Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre could ?interfere with media promotion? around the launch of his upcoming memoir and charity endeavours. There are also fears Harry may face media questions about ?uncle Andrew? when he promotes his autobiography, which is being published by Penguin Random House in late 2022. 
The fiercely private couple have never discussed their childcare arrangements, although it is thought they have ?help?. In January it was reported  that they are sending Archie to a nursery that teaches 'emotional literacy', and often pick their son up from school where his classmates have 'no idea' he's a member of the royal family, according to a fellow parent.
A year on from all the noise generated by their extraordinary Oprah interview, and Harry and Meghan certainly seem to be living a life less ordinary.

Comment piece from The Telegraph:

Rebel Wilson's Harry and Meghan gag tells us all we need to know about how they might be seen today.

Rebel Wilson's joke at the Baftas might have bombed a year ago, but there was only laughter - from some of the woke-ist people on the planet.

archive.ph (https://archive.ph/fadoC)

Rebel Wilson is an Aussie and has long been regarded as a joke herself in Australia. She got criticism here for several of her gags at the award show (and from a furious Will Smith for one aimed at him.)

Will Smith rejects marriage 'infidelity' after Rebel Wilson's 'wife's boyfriends' jibe - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/smith-rejects-marriage-infidelity-after-26467975)


Piers Morgan stated that she ?would have been cancelled if she?d been a man?, the one and only time in recorded history I?ve even agreed with him.


It was reported today that the general verdict is that as a BAFTA host she was worse than disastrous. In other words, won?t be chosen to do the job again.

Rebel Wilson roasted as 'worst host' at 2022 BAFTAs (https://nypost.com/2022/03/14/rebel-wilson-roasted-as-worst-host-at-2022-baftas/)

Roasted as ?worst host?. ?Just not funny?

Valentine Low
@valentinelow
When Harry feared that Meghan was going to dump him
thetimes.co.uk
Harry feared Meghan was going to leave him
Prince Harry demanded that his office put out a statement condemning the excesses of the media while confirming that Meghan was his girlfriend because...

Paywall, but apparently Valentine has Toronto Police confirmation there were several calls, each time they went the street/Meghan's home was nothing. The article apparently is as big as the Bully article. It hasn't been lawyered up to date.

I can provide a link to archive articles. Just give the link.

A Revolt Is Brewing at Prince Harry?s Silicon Valley Gig BetterUp (https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-revolt-is-brewing-at-prince-harrys-silicon-valley-gig-betterup)

The company made unannounced pay cuts to their employees rather than notifying first the money situation. Apparently 6 months ago when Better Up announced they were worth 5 billion (then), it seems to be a publicity stunt going sour today.

Prince Harry was spotting playing polo on Friday in nearby Santa Barbara and the Duchess was there to cheer him on.

Prince Harry Gets His Stretch On to Play Polo with Meghan Watching (https://www.tmz.com/2022/05/01/prince-harry-stretches-polo-santa-barbara-meghan-markle/)

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Prince Harry might be far across the pond, but he's still a Brit -- just look at him galloping with a stick in hand as he tries to whack a ball ... all the way over here in sunny California!

The Duke of Sussex got his polo on Friday during a match at the Santa Barbara Polo and Racquets Club, where we're told he played on a team called Los Padres (the green jerseys, it seems) alongside a pal of his ... and apparently this happened last minute.

Harry and Meghan will not be going to the Queen's Jubilee, look at these dates:

Omid Scobie
@scobie

UPDATE: Prince Harry will play the entire 12 goal polo season at Santa Barbara with his #LosPadres teammates (@nachofigueras @kekomagrini Juan Guerrero):
🐴
@FoldedHills
Pope Challenge, May 6-15
🐎 Lisle Nixon Cup, May 20-29
🏆 Cheval Athletics USPA Intra-Circuit, June 3-19

Thank you for the info........and Thank Goodness they won't be there ......now the celebration can be all about HM and not the ...(no words printable as to what I want to call her grandson and wife)......no one is perfect in life yet some are way more despicable than most.  I am looking forward to seeing all the info and pictures of the royal family during the celebrations. 

Just to clarify, nothing has been officially stated that the Sussexes won't be present. However due to Prince Harry's polo schedule, it does appear that the family won't be present.

The Duchess has reportedly hit a snag in relaunching her blog "The Tig."

Meghan Markle is apparently struggling to relaunch her lifestyle blog | Marie Claire (https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/royal-news/meghan-markle-the-tig-relaunch-778141)

QuoteMore recently, the Duchess applied to trademark the name back in September, sending the rumour mill swirling again. However she has now hit a snag, according to the Mail?s Richard Eden.

Her application to the US Patents and Trademark Office has apparently been delayed, as it wasn?t signed.

He wrote that the case had as a result been delayed by another six months, and that she would need to tweak her submission slightly as ?the original description of the website was ?too broad??.

In her new version of The Tig, Meghan is reportedly planning to cover ?food, cooking, recipes, travel, relationships, fashion, style, lifestyle, the arts, culture, design, conscious living, and health and wellness.?

Plans and circumstances with Harry and Meghan can change quickly. Obviously things are not going well for them. One negative side of being a celebrity is that when things aren't going well you are really faced with it everywhere. I'm not a Sussex fan, but I hate to see anyone in this position.

Quote from: Princess Cassandra on May 10, 2022, 08:54:43 PM
Plans and circumstances with Harry and Meghan can change quickly. Obviously things are not going well for them. One negative side of being a celebrity is that when things aren't going well you are really faced with it everywhere. I'm not a Sussex fan, but I hate to see anyone in this position.

I really wish I could feel a bit sorry for them, yet take a look at the facts, they had *everything handed to them on a silver/gold platter* and threw it away for MONEY, as if living in  a royal castle/home/palace whatever was not good enough for them, servants to wait on them hand and foot, cars filled with gas all the time, any transportation possible was at their disposal as we have seen, clothes(Meghan had Charles paying for all her clothes as it was reported, just think of all the (coats, shoes and purses that she has and will probably never use or see again), jewels (her own personal jewels from the royal family and hubby and in time royal jewels to use on events), doors to every thing was wide open to them and yet they Bitched nobody thought to ask how well they were in a country were people are just grateful to be alive the next day without clean water or food to eat.........NO, I have NO d*man pity for them ever........so they were attacked by the media, well let's see, Sophie, Anne, Sarah, Diana, Catherine and even HM has suffered the same yet Meghan so called being strong, she could not handle it or maybe she did and used that to run to Ca and buy a 14 million dollar home with 12 bathrooms for 3 or 4 people......and called her self a Duchess which she NEVER earned that title by working for it, she married it.....found a plot, got a plan and dug her heels in and married a royal prince expecting to go in and change the family she married into..talk about arrogance and ignorance........that is all facts and summed up how disgusted I am with both of them......shut the d*mn door and leave them to live in the US for we know how to handle back stabbers ....... 

Harry and Meghan didn?t live in a castle or a palace but a smallish cottage. ?Servants to wait on them hand and foot?? I?d be surprised if they had more than a cleaner at Nott Cott or Frogmore Cottage. Petrol for their cars paid for? Not unless they were undertaking a royal engagement.

The treatment Meghan received from the tabloids from the beginning was far worse than anything Camilla or Kate got. Neither of those women were accused by the Sun newspaper on its front page  of appearing on a notorious online porn site Pornhub. Completely untrue and the Sun had to apologise, btw.

The Sussexes have left and are making a happy life for themselves in California. They are the first of the spares to go into private life, but they won?t be the last. I would bet my life savings that Louise and James Wessex and Charlotte and Louis will not be full time royals as adults. Whatever you think of Harry and Meghan, their way is the way the BRF will be within twenty years and all spares will have a career and private life. And nobody will blink an eyelid about them doing so, in spite of all the present media-led ?indignation? about the Sussexes. They?ve shown the way forward. 

If Harry and Meghan were sooooooo happy in Ca then why did they do that interview with Oprah what was mostly LIES, and why do they continue to dish on the royal family?  If they want privacy then be quiet and stay in Ca and do your own thing........that is PRIVACY.

Smallish cottage, heck, who would not want to live in Windsor Estates in that cottage.(just how many bedrooms does it have or bathrooms).....that is a laugh and I would not be surprised if they had servants to wait on them as I do not see Meghan doing all the cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, ironing clothes, vacuuming, cleaning the bathroom toilets, bathtub......etc, Meghan is not a housekeeper at all and cars with gas, heck who needs a car when they have planes from friends.....as they talk about climate control.....I know there are many people that will never see both sides of this couple as they think they do no wrong.....they are so perfect yet they LIE and if anyone is smart as my sister has said to me so many times, YOU never trust a Lair and believe me I don't.    I for one hope the royal family  kicks them to the curb and turns their back on them like they did Edward and Wallis for that is what Harry and Meghan in time will become..outcasts for without the royal family they can NOT make any money.....as we are seeing how Netflix is upset with them....

Frogmore cottage contains five bedrooms which makes in a small residence by RF standards. Some of the bedrooms reputedly have ensuites. Nott Cott, in KP, where Harry and Meghan lived until Archie?s birth, had two bedrooms and a bathroom.

Here is an article on FC now lived in by Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank and their son.

Princess Eugenie shares rare peek inside Frogmore Cottage | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20210607114773/princess-eugenie-home-inside-frogmore-cottage-living-room/)

If the Sussexes had employed a lot of servants at FC the newspapers would have been onto it in a flash. After all, a lot of newsprint was wasted inaccurately reporting on Archie?s nanny. And if a large number of staff had been employed there would have been mote stories come out about their private lives at FC. Meghan had nobody but a cleaner at her home in Canada which she shared with her dogs, and she seemed to manage there.

As for planes, both Charles and William make speeches about environmental matters and yet use borrowed planes on occasion, including the Duke of Westminster?s private plane. Kate and William chartered a private plane for their last ski holiday.

Charles once sent a plane all the way back to Highgrove when he was going on holiday at Balmoral to collect painting gear he?d forgotten. The Wessexes have been known to charter private planes for holidays in Switzerland and the RF also have a chartered helicopter at their disposal, which has been used at times for private travel or when a train would have been more economical.

Andrew was known as ?Air Miles Andy? for a reason and Charles regularly topped the expenses for transport tables each year for royal travel pre Covid. So don?t let?s pretend that the RF, working or non working members, live like paupers while Meghan and Harry live it up.

Netflix aren?t upset with the Sussexes at all. The streaming giant?s subscription service fell into a black hole after the end of Covid lockdowns, and so many programmes were cancelled, not just Meghan?s ?Pearl? series. The Obamas project was also cancelled, as were many other people?s.

As the Sussex family have been invited to the Platinum Jubilee celebrations (and Harry and Meghan are likely to be at the Thanksgiving Service at St Paul?s in June with the rest of the royal family)  there is very little sign of them being kicked anywhere.

That was to be expected.........nothing new!

Quote from: wannable on May 04, 2022, 06:23:27 PM
Harry and Meghan will not be going to the Queen's Jubilee, look at these dates:

Omid Scobie
@scobie

UPDATE: Prince Harry will play the entire 12 goal polo season at Santa Barbara with his #LosPadres teammates (@nachofigueras @kekomagrini Juan Guerrero):
🐴
@FoldedHills
Pope Challenge, May 6-15
🐎 Lisle Nixon Cup, May 20-29
🏆 Cheval Athletics USPA Intra-Circuit, June 3-19

At the polo yesterday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSz8W_oWQAImlm4?format=jpg&name=small)

Harry listed himself in Los Padres team as Harry Wales rather than Harry Sussex

I guess that he uses "Harry Wales" because that's the name he's used the longest over his amateur polo days.

The most recent match was a charity one for the following organizations based in Santa Barbara Co.

CALM (https://calm4kids.org/) CALM continues to be the only non-profit in Santa Barbara County that specializes in the prevention and treatment of childhood trauma.
FoodBank ? Moving the Community from Hunger into Health (https://foodbanksbc.org/)
Heal The Ocean (https://www.healtheocean.org/)

Meghan Markle congratulates her husband Prince Harry with a kiss in Santa Barbara | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10844403/Meghan-Markle-congratulates-husband-Prince-Harry-kiss-Santa-Barbara.html)

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle share a kiss at the polo | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10844783/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-share-kiss-polo.html)

Who is who in Prince Harry's Los Padres polo team? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10844763/Who-Prince-Harrys-Los-Padres-polo-team.html)

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Share a Kiss at Polo Match | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-share-a-kiss-at-polo-match-near-their-california-home/)

Quote from: TLLK on May 23, 2022, 06:12:41 PM
The most recent match was a charity one for the following organizations based in Santa Barbara Co.

CALM (https://calm4kids.org/) CALM continues to be the only non-profit in Santa Barbara County that specializes in the prevention and treatment of childhood trauma.
FoodBank ? Moving the Community from Hunger into Health (https://foodbanksbc.org/)
Heal The Ocean (https://www.healtheocean.org/)

Glad to see that Harry is still doing his bit for charities through polo matches. Not that the London tabloids ever concentrate on that side of things.

Meghan in Texas paying respect to the murdered children and teachers.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTtGLhHWUAA_OfF?format=jpg&name=small)

Meghan Markle lays bouquet of white roses at memorial in Uvalde  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10858357/Meghan-Markle-lays-bouquet-white-roses-memorial-Uvalde.html)

Meghan Markle is slammed for making a surprise appearance at site of Texas school massacre | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10858855/Meghan-Markle-slammed-making-surprise-appearance-site-Texas-school-massacre.html)

'We had no idea who she was': Volunteers at blood donation centre after Meghan Markle dropped in | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10861005/We-no-idea-Volunteers-blood-donation-centre-Meghan-Markle-dropped-in.html)

Meghan Markle Makes Surprise Visit to Memorial for Texas School Shooting | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-makes-surprise-visit-memorial-texas-school-shooting-victims/)

Meghan Markle pays emotional visit to Uvalde after 19 children die in Texas school shooting | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220526141380/meghan-markle-visits-uvalde-texas-memorial-19-children-dead/)

Meghan Markle news: Duchess of Sussex fights back tears at Texas memorial - PICTURES | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1616602/Meghan-Markle-news-Duchess-of-Sussex-Texas-school-shooting-memorial-latest-pictures-update)

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-26/meghan-visits-memorial-for-victims-of-texas-school-shooting

Meghan Markle fights back tears honouring 21 killed at Texas school shooting memorial - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/meghan-markle-fights-back-tears-27077087)

Meghan Markle lays flowers at Texas school shooting memorial in surprise appearance days after dad rushed to hospital (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18699419/meghan-markle-flowers-texas-school-shooting/)

Thank you @wannable and @sara8150 for the update.

With her damaged background, one wonders about sincerity. I'd like to think there is no ulterior motive, only because this is a tragedy.

Short video of the Duchess at the memorial set up outside the City Hall. (The man in the black suit has been identified as her bodyguard.)

Meghan Markle Pays Respects At Scene Of Texas School Shooting - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHB7LJ4a73I)

Quote from: wannable on May 27, 2022, 01:53:52 PM
With her damaged background, one wonders about sincerity. I'd like to think there is no ulterior motive, only because this is a tragedy.

Meghan has been an avid supporter of US gun control measures for many years. In fact, as Piers Morgan always used to love to point out, he only got to know about her when she posted on his Twitter her agreement with his campaign against the NRA etc. They exchanged months of messages on the subject.

That was when he had an evening show on US TV and was living there. She was in Canada and had been working on Suits for only a few years. That was a couple of years before she was even dating Harryc so I hardly think the visit to the scene of this US latest gun outrage is a sign of some new cause.

And the greatest tragedy in this latest outrage is the Republicans in Congress and the Senate refusing to see this latest saga, and Columbine, Sandy Hook and the hundreds of other shootings for what it is. Stupidity writ large is how the rest of the First World sees it!

Horsing around! Prince Harry throws himself into highly-competitive Santa Barbara polo match | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10863109/Horsing-Prince-Harry-throws-highly-competitive-Santa-Barbara-polo-match.html)

Quote from: wannable on May 27, 2022, 01:53:52 PM
With her damaged background, one wonders about sincerity. I'd like to think there is no ulterior motive, only because this is a tragedy.

I don't see how her coming from a broken Remotely has anything to do with the situation. Or suggest any ulterior motive.

Meghan Markle's stance on gun control predates Harry..

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/916939031652450305?lang=en

What we have to remember unlike some royal brides her charity work and activism started long Before she married a Prince. No surprise their freedom from royal duties has allowed her to go back to causes considered 'too political' for a royal.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/06/16/58747957-10889737-image-a-28_1654529011992.jpg)

Back in Montecito

Too late to edit and add, but for what it 'may' be worth, there will be NO running to the US media from the couple spilling any beans or playing a 2.0 victim that they were badly treated by the 'BRF'. 

Allegedly the rumour is the 'Firm' gave out the 4 day itinerary to people they know are in the Sussexes camp all the way from the inside to 3rd party, the itinerary was they were invited to participate in ALL the (from Trooping, Lunch, Epsom, Party at the Palace and Pageant) Ativities as 'extended family royal members, equal to that position', meaning none royal working family, where it is crystal clear that these non working royals like Beatrice and Eugenie went to most of the activities including street parties.  The couple's choice was not to after the St. Paul's crowd booing heard when departing (all media).  The arrival was covered by the bells, only Sky News channel has the arrival booing because the commentator was matter of fact in the middle of the crowds right in front across the street/from the entrance of St. Pauls. Every other channel were at the press pen, meters from car arrivals.

Unlike almost all Continental and Scandi royal Houses the BRF doesn?t distinguish in its succession and precedence those who are ?extended royal family members, equal to their position?, and anyway Harry isn?t an ?extended family royal? but a son of the Prince of Wales.

Sky News is a right wing and deeply anti Sussex news service. The BBC did not record booing, and members of the public in the crowd actually in front of St Paul?s stated that they heard massive cheers for the couple on their arrival, as well as booing because a bus arrived in front blocking the view.

Others reported scattered boos from a few and a lot of cheers, which is the version I happen to believe. To hear anti Sussex adherents you would think there was a sea of booing from everyone that could be heard for miles.

It?s my view that the couple came to see the Queen primarily and nobody else. They celebrated Lili?s first birthday at Frogmore and I believe Lili and the Queen saw each other on that day. They also stayed at Clarence House according to reports, so saw Charles and Camilla as well. Why would they miss a Guildhall lunch because of booing. The public wouldn?t be there inside the building. Nor would there be booing at other events like the concert or the pageant, as they would be seated near many others and that would be illogical.

The family flew home when they had long arranged they would fly home. No sooner and no later.

I tend to agree with @Curryong when it comes to the Sussexes' attendance at Trooping the Color and the Service of Thanksgiving. They came to the events that were important to them personally. Besides with two young children to care for, the couple have different priorities now.  Prince Harry has seen and participated in two previous Jubilees and understands that the itinerary is a jam packed and so they opted to just go to two in-person events.

A new thread dedicated to Archie and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor has been created for the Sussex forum.

Archie and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor News and General Chat (http://www.royalinsight.net/forum/index.php?topic=95232.0)

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Harry and Megan DID invite William, Kate and their children to Lilibet's first birthday party at Frogmore Cottage as an 'olive branch' but the Cambridges didn't attend, source tells Page Six
Lilibet didn't meet her cousins during her first trip to the UK for the Platinum Jubilee as Prince William and Kate Middleton snubbed the invitation to her first birthday party at Frogmore Cottage, a source has claimed
Said William is 'still wary' around Prince Harry as he 'never quite knows what will be reported back after'
Harry and Meghan were said to have hosted a 'relaxed' garden party for Lilibet at Frogmore Cottage
The Lilibet picture was taken by photographer and friend of couple Misan Harriman, who attended the picnic

Good for W&K, that Oprah interview was the death and destruction of any type of relationship, the DDOC have to support the Monarchy and their own reputation. How can one offer an Olive Branch after saying to the whole wide world that your sister in law is 'Waity Katie', even if used as an example  of mean media, plus more importantly the 17 lies. The Sussexes can't think that coming for 72 hours everything will be fixed, it may take a looong time like when they are in their 70's or never for W&K to feel a 'bit' relaxed around them (I personally wouldn't, the Sussexes will go at every opportunity to the press with lies or fake accounts of what happened all for media exposure or money.  They have to make their own independent moneys, so they started of with trashing Harry's family and he is will continue by being a 'small cat' version for a swearing word I can't say in his memoir book)

Back in the USA, Page Six, Sussex camp said the Cambridge's snubbed them.  Sunshine Sach

Then the truth is: They tried to plan a birthday party in the middle of the royal family's busiest weekend (Cardiff are you on the map) of the year and claim they were "snubbed" by those not attending?! The Markles are delusional and completely self-centered.  Royal Watchers

Seeing the Sussexes or not, their PR company STILL invents stuff for their US audience.  :sarcastic: :laugh10:

Quote from: Curryong on June 06, 2022, 08:40:56 PM
Unlike almost all Continental and Scandi royal Houses the BRF doesn?t distinguish in its succession and precedence those who are ?extended royal family members, equal to their position?, and anyway Harry isn?t an ?extended family royal? but a son of the Prince of Wales.

Sky News is a right wing and deeply anti Sussex news service. The BBC did not record booing, and members of the public in the crowd actually in front of St Paul?s stated that they heard massive cheers for the couple on their arrival, as well as booing because a bus arrived in front blocking the view.

Others reported scattered boos from a few and a lot of cheers, which is the version I happen to believe. To hear anti Sussex adherents you would think there was a sea of booing from everyone that could be heard for miles.

It?s my view that the couple came to see the Queen primarily and nobody else. They celebrated Lili?s first birthday at Frogmore and I believe Lili and the Queen saw each other on that day. They also stayed at Clarence House according to reports, so saw Charles and Camilla as well. Why would they miss a Guildhall lunch because of booing. The public wouldn?t be there inside the building. Nor would there be booing at other events like the concert or the pageant, as they would be seated near many others and that would be illogical.

The family flew home when they had long arranged they would fly home. No sooner and no later.

I'd love to believe that, but I am almost sure, as it's an alleged secret, their driver had his itinerary too, and from St. Paul's the order was to take them to the lunch, but Harry changed the order to Frogmore. He was angry. 

Also, I've already seen H&M itinerary invitation (s), it's confirmed rather than a rumour. They officially appear for the press media worldwide ''invited'' to all the main events; Trooping, St. Paul's, Lunch, Party and Parade.

Harry and Meghan have kept low profile since no longer HRH and work for Royals family and also both will not allowed have front row like Cambridges,Prince Charles and Duchess of Cornwall but Sussexes will seat with cousins permanent and Harry need kept his mouth shut up during his grandmother the Queen Elizabeth II?s big day but jubilee is over

Harry and Meghan trying to invited Cambridges for Lilibet?s birthday and got declined due rifts in 2019 im respect William&Kate decisions because William and Harry not spoken for years since bombshell interviews and also Harry plans to bombshell books in late 2022 its not going well between two brothers,@wannable

But Harry and Meghan didn?t attend festival included concert and pageant kept low profile and still no longer HRH but both will not allowed seat royal boxes

Before Harry no longer HRH he attend two previous jubilee included 50th years of Queen Elizabeth II jubilee in 2002 and 60th years of HM Queen Elizabeth II in 2012 but this year Harry is no longer appearance 70 years of HM Queen Elizabeth II platinum jubilee,@TLLK

Neither Harry nor Meghan have been stripped of their HRHs. They are not allowed to use them for business or commercial purposes. That is very different to having them taken away.

The Platinum Jubilee was exceptional in its seating at St Paul?s as the Queen?s elderly (working) cousins were in the front row as well as her children (minus Andrew) while Harry and Meghan were in the second row. They were however not bussed to the Abbey as minor royals were, and they were escorted up the aisle to their seats by an official on their own. The Queen?s cousins weren?t.

That is extremely unlikely to continue in Charles?s reign. A King?s son (or daughter) occupies a front row seat at ceremonial occasions along with his wife. And certainly Charles?s aged second cousins won?t be present at the front, (the Kents will almost certainly be retired) though Anne and the Wessexes might be. However so will the Sussexes. There have been some very interesting discussions about precedence in TRF for years, and IN PRECEDENCE  a monarch?s child trumps all, including the sovereign?s grandchildren with the exception of the children of the Prince of Wales. And Harry is at the moment the son of the POW.

 :baby:

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 03:39:10 PM
Back in the USA, Page Six, Sussex camp said the Cambridge's snubbed them.  Sunshine Sach

Then the truth is: They tried to plan a birthday party in the middle of the royal family's busiest weekend (Cardiff are you on the map) of the year and claim they were "snubbed" by those not attending?! The Markles are delusional and completely self-centered.  Royal Watchers

Seeing the Sussexes or not, their PR company STILL invents stuff for their US audience.  :sarcastic: :laugh10:

Well I'm afraid that Page Six isn't going to have too many people in the UK believing their story considering that nearly every adult in the BRF was either on an official engagement, at the Epsom Derby or preparing for the Party at the Palace.  :hehe: To be honest, I'm surprised that they even tried running the article. All of these plans would have been set up nearly a year in advance in England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland. These aren't "surprise" visits but carefully arranged engagements which are organized to minute.

The Son of the POW was seated second row group B, rather than second row group A.

Second row Group A = behind the POW, Charles, DDOC. They (the Firm) probably didn't want the TV to capture unseemly stuff behind the two most senior royals and their wives (come on guys, Charles and William and their wives have to protect the crown! the continuity, the smooth passing of the baton).

So, do the unseemly stuff with Sarah Chatto as witness (the picture and videos have done the rounds in almost all the #1 media outlets in every country worldwide):

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/03/16/58648475-10881669-The_Queen_s_niece_was_seated_next_to_Prince_Harry_and_Meghan_Mar-m-46_1654271646113.jpg)

Then the video viral of Meghan (left) turning away from Kate (right) as she made her way into St Paul's cathedral doing a Priyanka Chopra 2.0  :hehe:

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 09:10:16 PM
The Son of the POW was seated second row group B, rather than second row group A.

Second row Group A = behind the POW, Charles, DDOC. They (the Firm) probably didn't want the TV to capture unseemly stuff behind the two most senior royals and their wives (come on guys, Charles and William and their wives have to protect the crown! the continuity, the smooth passing of the baton).

So, do the unseemly stuff with Sarah Chatto as witness (the picture and videos have done the rounds in almost all the #1 media outlets in every country worldwide):

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/03/16/58648475-10881669-The_Queen_s_niece_was_seated_next_to_Prince_Harry_and_Meghan_Mar-m-46_1654271646113.jpg)

Then the video viral of Meghan (left) turning away from Kate (right) as she made her way into St Paul's cathedral doing a Priyanka Chopra 2.0  :hehe:

So when King Charles?s only other son is present at his father?s Coronation in the front with his wife, you?ll acknowledge then that he is, in your words, a VIP, will you? At long last.

As for Meghan turning away, Kate was of course looking out for her sister in law?s entrance at St Paul?s with beaming smiles and nods of recognition, lol. Just like she and William did at the Commonwealth WA service at the Sussexes last day on the dreary royal round years ago. All smiles and happy chuckles! By the way, on that photo you?ve posted  (before you cropped it) there are plenty of people behind and around, including Sarah Chatto, who are looking in the same direction as Meghan is.

Wait and see. I have my doubts depending on the Memoir (if it's trashing the family, no show) (if it's the 12 steps he is allegedly taking with AA, yes show but positioned where will be very interesting). Most importantly during Charles Coronation, it will be the PPOW W&K, that will be the 2 items of interest (King coronation and Camilla Consort media going cray and the changing of Cambridge's to the Walesses) for the worldwide media. 

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 09:10:16 PM
The Son of the POW was seated second row group B, rather than second row group A.

Second row Group A = behind the POW, Charles, DDOC. They (the Firm) probably didn't want the TV to capture unseemly stuff behind the two most senior royals and their wives (come on guys, Charles and William and their wives have to protect the crown! the continuity, the smooth passing of the baton).

So, do the unseemly stuff with Sarah Chatto as witness (the picture and videos have done the rounds in almost all the #1 media outlets in every country worldwide):

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/03/16/58648475-10881669-The_Queen_s_niece_was_seated_next_to_Prince_Harry_and_Meghan_Mar-m-46_1654271646113.jpg)

Then the video viral of Meghan (left) turning away from Kate (right) as she made her way into St Paul's cathedral doing a Priyanka Chopra 2.0  :hehe:

Prince Charles,Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridges have rightful to protect the crown because they?re future monarch and also future head of state someday after Queen Elizabeth II passed

Harry and Meghan seat opposite from senior royal but Sussexes will seat with cousins permanent

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 09:35:30 PM
Wait and see. I have my doubts depending on the Memoir (if it's trashing the family, no show) (if it's the 12 steps he is allegedly taking with AA, yes show but positioned where will be very interesting). Most importantly during Charles Coronation, it will be the PPOW W&K, that will be the 2 items of interest (King coronation and Camilla Consort media going cray and the changing of Cambridge's to the Walesses) for the worldwide media.

No, it will be the new King and Queen Consort who will be the centre of world attention. And every adult son of every King since medieval times pays homage to the King, his father at this ceremony. In modern history these younger sons are all Peers of the Realm and that includes Harry who is the sole younger son. It?s part of the Coronation ceremony and the sons do homage in their ducal robes of ermine and velvet. Be a bit odd if he and his wife were put six rows back, lol!

And Princes of Wales are given that title long before the Coronation ceremony which is usually up to a year after the previous monarch?s death. So it will be very old news indeed by the time of the Coronation.

I don't know Curryong, hence it really depends on what Harry (and Meghan) does next IMO (unseemly stuff) Imagine if the coronation was today and Harry gave the look like in the pic I posted and Meghan turned her head right at the moment of Charles Camilla William and Kate procession walking to the coronation, it's bad image. I mean it's Charles and William's duty to protect the crown, that is all I have to say.

I mean, they can end up like the DDofWindsor?!  :unsure:

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 09:35:30 PM
Wait and see. I have my doubts depending on the Memoir (if it's trashing the family, no show) (if it's the 12 steps he is allegedly taking with AA, yes show but positioned where will be very interesting). Most importantly during Charles Coronation, it will be the PPOW W&K, that will be the 2 items of interest (King coronation and Camilla Consort media going cray and the changing of Cambridge's to the Walesses) for the worldwide media. 

Yes Harry admitted trash talk his own family on memoir unbelievable

William and Kate will become Prince and Princess of Wales not since William?s mother the Princess Diana vacant

Princess of Wales - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_of_Wales)

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Princess of Wales | Monarchy of Britain Wiki | Fandom (https://monarchy-of-britain.fandom.com/wiki/Princess_of_Wales)

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Quote from: Curryong on June 07, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
No, it will be the new King and Queen Consort who will be the centre of world attention. And every adult son of every King since medieval times pays homage to the King, his father at this ceremony. In modern history these younger sons are all Peers of the Realm and that includes Harry who is the sole younger son. It?s part of the Coronation ceremony and the sons do homage in their ducal robes of ermine and velvet. Be a bit odd if he and his wife were put six rows back, lol!

And Princes of Wales are given that title long before the Coronation ceremony which is usually up to a year after the previous monarch?s death. So it will be very old news indeed by the time of the Coronation.

Yes

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 09:46:47 PM
I don't know Curryong, hence it really depends on what Harry (and Meghan) does next IMO.

I mean, they can end up like the DDofWindsor?!  :unsure:

Well, I?m sure that all the anti Sussexes would be delighted if Harry was treated like the Duke of W. However, The Duke of Windsor was an ex monarch and so he and his wife werent invited to the Coronation as a matter of course. And you have stated that the media were told that the Sussexes were invited to practically everything at this Platinum Jubilee ceremonial occasion, something that didn?t happen to the Duke of Windsor who wasn?t even invited to his niece?s wedding.

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 09:46:47 PM
Imagine if the coronation was today and Harry gave the look like in the pic I posted and Meghan turned her head right at the moment of Charles Camilla William and Kate procession walking to the coronation, it's bad image.

The Prince and Princess of Wales don?t process down the aisle together with the newly crowned King and Queen, and anyway certain members of the royal family are usually placed above. There are photos of Charles, his grandmother the QM and Prss Margaret together with others at the Queen?s Coronation seated there, not in the main congregation.

The Coronation Of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth - Part 1 (1953) - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LEDp34MRI20)

How can they (Sussexes) win the trust of the family? He trashed his father, he trashed his brother, then a generic trashing of the family, thinking that by announcing that the Queen and PP are 'safe' from the trashing, the Queen wouldn't be upset about the trashing of HER family.

Invitations were there but distance was crafted. They barely spoke to the couple to avoid being misconstrued by the duo (they have done it several times already causuing embarassment and heartbreak) in some US TV station. They weren't seated behind Charles and William either. I mean they have already done scary faces 2 years ago, why risk it (again)?!

I don't think Charles will risk that in his coronation, there I said it.

Quote from: Curryong on June 07, 2022, 09:56:47 PM
Well, I?m sure that all the anti Sussexes would be delighted if Harry was treated like the Duke of W. However, The Duke of Windsor was an ex monarch and so he and his wife werent invited to the Coronation as a matter of course. And you have stated that the media were told that the Sussexes were invited to practically everything at this Platinum Jubilee ceremonial occasion, something that didn?t happen to the Duke of Windsor who wasn?t even invited to his niece?s wedding.

Duke and Duchess of Windsor aren?t invited to Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip?s 1947 wedding because of former King Edward VIII?s behavior in taboilds and Wallis Simpson touch on king?s hands many London royals fans and watcher wouldn?t approve with Wallis Simpson but Duke of Windsor says ?have chosen marry this witch woman or remain monarch options? Duke of Windsor will marry Wallis Simpson and he surrendered HM King and torch to his brother King George VI

Like Harry because he no longer HRH or no public duties for royal

Quote from: wannable on June 07, 2022, 10:07:32 PM
How can they (Sussexes) win the trust of the family? He trashed his father, he trashed his brother, then a generic trashing of the family, thinking that by announcing that the Queen and PP are 'safe' from the trashing, the Queen wouldn't be upset about the trashing of HER family.

Invitations were there but distance was crafted. They barely spoke to the couple to avoid being misconstrued by the duo (they have done it several times already causuing embarassment and heartbreak) in some US TV station. They weren't seated behind Charles and William either. I mean they have already done scary faces 2 years ago, why risk it (again)?!

I don't think Charles will risk that in his coronation, there I said it.

Royal family always protective away from negative talk about Harry?s memoir

The ones that matter have to protect the crown from everthing that may cause trouble.

I'm sure that when Charles' reign begins that the Sussexes will be invited to the  following: 1. Funeral of Queen Elizabeth II. 2. The Coronation of King (name.) As to what that coronation will ultimately look like, I truly don't know.  Also it is possible the King  may or may not want to have the royal dukes participate in the coronation ceremony like previous ones. We'll just have to wait and see when the plans are made public.

When QEII had her coronation, her husband-Edinburgh, uncle- Gloucester and cousin- Kent swore their allegiance. However Charles might decide to remove this from the ceremony.

Hopefully that time is a few years from now and family relations may be completely different by then.  I think we can be sure, however, that the Coronation will not be as extravagant as his mother's was.

Quote from: sara8150 on June 07, 2022, 10:10:07 PM
Duke and Duchess of Windsor aren?t invited to Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip?s 1947 wedding because of former King Edward VIII?s behavior in taboilds and Wallis Simpson touch on king?s hands many London royals fans and watcher wouldn?t approve with Wallis Simpson but Duke of Windsor says ?have chosen marry this witch woman or remain monarch options? Duke of Windsor will marry Wallis Simpson and he surrendered HM King and torch to his brother King George VI

Like Harry because he no longer HRH or no public duties for royal

That is completely incorrect. Edward wasn?t invited to the wedding for family reasons, just as Philip?s sisters and their surviving husbands weren?t. Yes, Edward abdicated but it wasn?t to do with any behaviour with tabloids. Like Harry Edward never gave interviews about leaving the RF to tabloids. If you can provide links that show that the ex King did so at any time please put them on the forum.

I don?t know what you think the Duke of Windsor being the Governor of the Bahamas was, for most of WW2. Not a public duty on behalf of the Crown? Lol!

And King George VI did not remove Edward?s HRH. He didn?t make Wallis an HRH but he never took away his brother?s honorific.

Trial of two British  right wing racist terrorists who threatened the life and well-being of Archie, and Harry and Meghan in their podcasts, as well as countless other multi racial persons in UK life. continues in court.

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's son targeted with horror 'abomination' threat, court told | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1622282/meghan-markle-prince-harry-archie-targeted-court-news-update)

?Christopher Gibbons, 38, described Archie as "an abomination that should be put down". He also called for Harry to be prosecuted and "judicially killed for treason" in the Black Wolf Radio chat show he hosted with Tyrone Patten-Walsh, 34, a jury was told. The pair are said to have hated mixed race relationships and used Harry's marriage to Meghan as an example.?

Quote from: Curryong on June 08, 2022, 09:55:02 PM
That is completely incorrect. Edward wasn?t invited to the wedding for family reasons, just as Philip?s sisters and their surviving husbands weren?t. Yes, Edward abdicated but it wasn?t to do with any behaviour with tabloids. Like Harry Edward never gave interviews about leaving the RF to tabloids. If you can provide links that show that the ex King did so at any time please put them on the forum.

I don?t know what you think the Duke of Windsor being the Governor of the Bahamas was, for most of WW2. Not a public duty on behalf of the Crown? Lol!

And King George VI did not remove Edward?s HRH. He didn?t make Wallis an HRH but he never took away his brother?s honorific.

My mistake

Wallis Simpson and the royal title that can't be used again (https://britishheritage.com/royals/duke-windsor-title)

Wallis Simpson and the fight over the HRH ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/wallis-simpson-and-the-fight-over-the-hrh-161929/)

Denying HRH - The Case of the Duchess of Windsor - History of Royal Women (https://www.historyofroyalwomen.com/wallis-simpson/denying-hrh-the-case-of-the-duchess-of-windsor/)

?After abdicating, the former king was made Duke of Windsor by his brother and successor, King George VI. Wallis married Edward six months later, after which she was formally known as the Duchess of Windsor, but was not allowed to share her husband's style of "Royal Highness"

Quote from: Curryong on June 08, 2022, 10:13:02 PM
Trial of two British  right wing racist terrorists who threatened the life and well-being of Archie, and Harry and Meghan in their podcasts, as well as countless other multi racial persons in UK life. continues in court.

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's son targeted with horror 'abomination' threat, court told | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1622282/meghan-markle-prince-harry-archie-targeted-court-news-update)

?Christopher Gibbons, 38, described Archie as "an abomination that should be put down". He also called for Harry to be prosecuted and "judicially killed for treason" in the Black Wolf Radio chat show he hosted with Tyrone Patten-Walsh, 34, a jury was told. The pair are said to have hated mixed race relationships and used Harry's marriage to Meghan as an example.?

Glad that this man is being brought to trial.

Quote from: TLLK on June 08, 2022, 11:42:04 PM
Glad that this man is being brought to trial.

This man and his co-hort are the real abominations.

Jailed as it should be.  I know the Sussexsquad podcast is also being looked at, death threats and Ill wishes in every and different episodes to the senior royals, BUT their base isn't in the UK.

****

In other news, the Sun claims the meeting with the Queen lasted 15 minutes only.

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'IN AND OUT JOB' Queen spent just 15 minutes with Harry and Meghan during Platinum Jubilee

THE Queen met Prince Harry and Meghan for just 15 minutes when they returned to the UK for her Platinum Jubilee.

Their time with the monarch who got to see the couple's daughter Lilibet, one, for the first time was kept formal by Buckingham Palace aides.

Harry, 37, and Meghan, 40, who were also with son Archie, three, saw the Queen at Windsor on Thursday, June 2, as the Jubilee celebrations got under way.

A source said: It was a quick in and out job. It was all quite formal.

The Sun told on Tuesday how the Sussexes were banned from bringing a photographer to Windsor Castle to capture the moment The Queen met namesake Lilibet.

The money shot to make Millions according to experts would have been the photo.  Don't know the methodology, but the only thing I know is when there is children involved in a picture, a written authorization is a must and IF the parents also want money from potential publishers/media, they can make money.

The photographer is the friend that was at Lili's birthday party.

Prince Harry returned to the polo field this week. I remember that one of his gap year desires was to play the game at a professional level. While that dream might not have come true, he can indulge his love for the game up and down the CA coast now.

Prince Harry Plays Polo in First Sighting Since the Queen's Jubilee | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-plays-polo-in-first-sighting-since-queens-jubilee/)

QuoteWhile standing by the side of the field, Prince Harry appeared to focus on the game in which he showed up to play for his friend Nacho Figueras' team against Dundee II. The match, which was open to the public, ended with the opposing team winning by 12-8. His wife, Meghan Markle, was reportedly not in attendance at the event.

Yes Harry always looks very focused yet happy and content when he plays polo. It?s obviously a favourite pastime. Apparently his father found playing polo extremely relaxing and refused to give it up early in his marriage so it?s something father and son share.

It seems that the PoW's sons definitely have enjoyed playing the game that their father and grandfather once played themselves.