Prince and Princess of Wales future roles

[wannable]

Duchess of Cambridge is the December 2021 cover of People Magazine.
The inside story says She is ready to be POW

[wannable]

Related to a DM article with a mix match of info.

Charles has given up the lease on the organic farm at his Gloucestershire bolthole of Highgrove and turned his attention to Sandringham in what many will consider a sign of his growing preparations for Kingship.

Highgrove is an asset of the Duchy of Cornwall, the POW's source of income.

[Blue Clover]

I am getting the sense that there will be significant changes in roles in the coming months for senior members of the Royal family. Prince William and Kate will play essential functions in the new family formation.

The cover of Kate turning 40 years old is a sign of change. We've seen her grow from a shy undergraduate to a mature mother of three. It will be interesting to see what the future holds for William and Kate.

[TLLK]

Duchess of Cambridge is the December 2021 cover of People Magazine.
The inside story says She is ready to be POW

Definitely agree that both Catherine and William are ready to step into their future roles as the Prince and Princess of Wales. Funny how the discussion of QEII's possible abdication came up yesterday with my father who is not really interested in royalty. (My mother on the other hand has long had an interest.) He was stating that he believes that QEII should abdicate after her Jubilee so she can enjoy her retirement and hopefully attend her son's coronation.

[Amabel2]

well it wont happen.  Cat and Will are taking on more work, and obviously the queen will not be here forever.. but she wont abdicate.

[wannable]

She won't abdicate, but she has passed the baton in many things, and it keeps on growing.

Her Christmas speech is very personal (a matter of interpretation from royal specialists, watchers, random, etc. from interpreting the passing of the baton she mentioned about PP and how her family is doing the same, from 2nd paragraph a literally dedication to Kate with the exact same lyric words of the Tom Walker song, one can say she watched it privately before the release the 24th, etc. etc. etc. each to its own interpretation of that speech), so @TLLK I see why many people were talking about the Q 'abdicating', which really is passing the baton in many duties, responsibilities, etc.  Not only the speech, but roughly the past 2 years one can read court circulars, documentaries, baton passing from DOCornwall/Lancaster...

Highgrove/Farm is William's. Charles finished the DOC lease of that, he ended his lease.  As I posted in this thread. Charles took over PP with Sandringham and Balmoral.  I posted in Charles board (King) what NEW he is doing with Sandringham land; 4000 sheep, cattle, etc.

[Nightowl]

As I have read and learned about the Royal Family/Firm, they are always thinking way ahead of what is *now*. For them I believe they feel strongly about the future of the royal family, monarchy and the entire country....that is a ton of pressure yet they do it slowly and with dignity.  HM can be at ease now with knowing that Charles and William are in control and doing what needs to be done so that she can continue with her job that she devoted her life to. Long may HM reign!   

[Amabel2]

has Highgrove been transferred to William?  I thought that Charles still held the property...

[PrincessOfPeace]

The Duke of Cambridge is looking into using Duchy of Cornwall properties to house the homeless, as he seeks to provide practical help as well as royal patronage.

The Duke, who will one day inherit the Duchy from his father the Prince of Wales, has asked staff to explore how buildings could be used to help people who have fallen on misfortune.

The idea could see some of the estate's urban buildings converted for use by charities, decades after the Duke first visited a homeless shelter with his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.

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The Telegraph: Duke of Cambridge could turn Royal estate properties into houses for the homeless

[Blue Clover]

She won't abdicate, but she has passed the baton in many things, and it keeps on growing.

Her Christmas speech is very personal (a matter of interpretation from royal specialists, watchers, random, etc. from interpreting the passing of the baton she mentioned about PP and how her family is doing the same, from 2nd paragraph a literally dedication to Kate with the exact same lyric words of the Tom Walker song, one can say she watched it privately before the release the 24th, etc. etc. etc. each to its own interpretation of that speech), so @TLLK I see why many people were talking about the Q 'abdicating', which really is passing the baton in many duties, responsibilities, etc. Not only the speech, but roughly the past 2 years one can read court circulars, documentaries, baton passing from DOCornwall/Lancaster...

Highgrove/Farm is William's. Charles finished the DOC lease of that, he ended his lease. As I posted in this thread. Charles took over PP with Sandringham and Balmoral. I posted in Charles board (King) what NEW he is doing with Sandringham land; 4000 sheep, cattle, etc.

A very insightful post! I do think that the Queen is passing the baton onto the future royal lineup. Sadly, changes will bring us a new monarchy, but it is inevitable. The Queen will not live forever. Instead of abdicating, which I believe the Queen will never do, she is working hard at creating a smooth transition that will occur naturally.

[Nightowl]

The Duke of Cambridge is looking into using Duchy of Cornwall properties to house the homeless, as he seeks to provide practical help as well as royal patronage.

The Duke, who will one day inherit the Duchy from his father the Prince of Wales, has asked staff to explore how buildings could be used to help people who have fallen on misfortune.

The idea could see some of the estate's urban buildings converted for use by charities, decades after the Duke first visited a homeless shelter with his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.

archive.ph

That is a really interesting article on what Prince William wants to do with helping the homeless by using the Duchy of Cornwall buildings .......that is a true royal working for this country and the people in need.  It will take time yet I am sure in the end the fruits of this will be found to be very welcoming by so many. 

The Telegraph: Duke of Cambridge could turn Royal estate properties into houses for the homeless

[TLLK]

The Duke of Cambridge is looking into using Duchy of Cornwall properties to house the homeless, as he seeks to provide practical help as well as royal patronage.

The Duke, who will one day inherit the Duchy from his father the Prince of Wales, has asked staff to explore how buildings could be used to help people who have fallen on misfortune.

The idea could see some of the estate's urban buildings converted for use by charities, decades after the Duke first visited a homeless shelter with his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.

archive.ph

The Telegraph: Duke of Cambridge could turn Royal estate properties into houses for the homeless

An interesting read @PrincessOfPeace and thank you for sharing the archived article. It offers us an opportunity to read the ones that require a subscription.

I believe that Centrepoint would be thrilled to have some of these properties in London, Cornwall and other counties, as long as they would fit the needs of their clients and have the necessary links to transportation, health care, education and employment opportunities.

To be honest, I don't see Highgrove being used especially since its gardens function as a tourist attraction and education center. However there are other ones that could suit.

While under Prince Charles it has become best-known for its rural and agricultural projects, while it also owns land in London.
Historically, the estate built residential and commercial properties in Kennington, selling off some sites in the 1920s and 30s to the armed forces. In 1990, the majority of the residential stock was sold to a housing association and the Duchy currently owns 16 flats and 23 houses.
It also owns the Oval, and a commercial portfolio of 18 properties which is valued at ?124 million.
Members of the Royal Family regularly face criticism for being patrons of charities and delivering well-intentioned speeches about social issues and the environment, while living in large palaces with inherited fortunes.
Prince William is understood to have been considering how to build on his father?s legacy to make use of the Duchy?s buildings for several years, and has become particularly concerned about the problems facing homeless people during the Covid-19 pandemic.
During lockdown, he held a meeting with Robert Jenrick MP, then Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government, and Dame Louise Casey, chairman of HM Government's Covid-19 Rough Sleeping Response Taskforce, as well as speaking to young people helped by Centrepoint.

[wannable]

Moderator note-I chose to split and move this topic over to this thread as I believe it's a better place for the discussion.

EXCLUSIVE: William and Kate summoned entire senior staff for 'clear-the-air meeting' after tour
Prince William and Kate Middleton had a meeting with their senior staff after their Caribbean tour. He believed they had been poorly prepared for the reaction they encountered, sources said

By Russell Myers Royal Editor

Prince Willliam and Kate Middleton summoned their entire senior staff to a clear-the-air meeting immediately after eight days touring Belize, Jamaica and the Bahamas in honour of the Queen's Platinum Jubilee, it can be revealed.

Sources revealed the atmosphere in the emergency team summit quickly soured after William revealed his concerns over a perceived lack of input from his staff.

He believed they had been poorly prepared for the reaction they encountered in the Caribbean.

A source said: The Duke was clearly frustrated at the lack of answers and the absence of any workable solutions being put forward.

The feeling was there were so many pitfalls that could have been avoided. He knows full well that it is his reputation on the line.

In dealing with sensitive issues, such as the ones they met on the tour, if they aren't in tune with what is going on in the world they will be left fighting for their futures.

[wannable]

My 2 cents, William and Kate there is nothing wrong or pitfalls with your team.  The Caribbean islands ''ALL'' want money one way or the other, enter stage: China.

ETA: Maybe start preparing to be the King and Queen of England, like 1200 years ago...only

[sara8150]

Prince William plans palace revolution after 'abrupt' staff meetings over tour blunders - Mirror Online

William and Kate summoned entire senior staff for 'clear-the-air meeting' after tour - Mirror Online

William and Kate reject 'star' candidates for new team as 'not being up to job' - Mirror Online

[Blue Clover]

My 2 cents, William and Kate there is nothing wrong or pitfalls with your team.  The Caribbean islands ''ALL'' want money one way or the other, enter stage: China.

ETA: Maybe start preparing to be the King and Queen of England, like 1200 years ago...only

The world is changing. Kate and William must educate themselves on global social progress.

[sara8150]

Prince William plans to modernise the monarchy: Duke of Cambridge 'holds crisis meeting with aides' | Daily Mail Online

[TLLK]

Discussion on the subject of reparations for the former British colonies in the Caribbean has been moved to this thread in the Politics of Monarchies and Republics forum. Please continue the discussion in this thread. Thank you.

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[sara8150]

William and Kate want to be known by first names NOT titles in huge shake-up - Mirror Online

[Curryong]

Oh, yes? In panic mode after the Caribbean tour obviously, so a few cosmetic changes are needed eh? Perhaps Harry and Meghan had a better handle on such things than KP imagined!

Well that can be a slippery slope, can?t it? If it?s first names only for royal engagements, then Britons, especially younger ones may well start questioning in the future why these people are living in the utmost luxury in royal Palaces and Houses, don?t have jobs in the way others do, and get money from Duchies and the State (taxes) when eventually they become monarch and consort. And there?s Charles?s reign to go first. I can?t see the POW following suit and asking to be called Charlie by his future subjects.

[Nightowl]

Oh, yes? In panic mode after the Caribbean tour obviously, so a few cosmetic changes are needed eh? Perhaps Harry and Meghan had a better handle on such things than KP imagined!

Well that can be a slippery slope, can?t it? If it?s first names only for royal engagements, then Britons, especially younger ones may well start questioning in the future why these people are living in the utmost luxury in royal Palaces and Houses, don?t have jobs in the way others do, and get money from Duchies and the State (taxes) when eventually they become monarch and consort. And there?s Charles?s reign to go first. I can?t see the POW following suit and asking to be called Charlie by his future subjects.

Unbelievable............

[TLLK]

William and Kate want to be known by first names NOT titles in huge shake-up - Mirror Online
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  A few thoughts on this article which IMHO apply to not only the Cambridges but the Sussexes too as they're from the same generation. Honestly the article is not truly surprising to me because as far as I recall, Princes William and Harry have taken a more relaxed attitude towards royal protocol for many years now and long before either were engaged or married. Their education, military training  and life experiences have brought them into a wider and IMO more realistic contact with the life that most people in the UK live than their grandmother and their father. And I have to thank their mother, teachers, trainers, friends and colleagues for doing so.
  Both have been quoted by biographers,  interviewers and work colleagues that they've requested to be called be their first names "Please call me _William/Harry." They both been known to sign their messages on memorial wreaths with their first names. I've seen where both have used their first names on social media posts too. Likewise their wives have done the same.  And when they meet with people, their equally welcoming to those who opt to use the formal practice: neck bow and curtsy as they are with those who just shake hands.

Now to me this means that while they are more relaxed with being called by their first names, they are not completely dropping their styles and titles as we still see it being used.  I believe that they will still continue to use them throughout their lives though I believe that  it's possible that when William's reign begins that he's going to opt to end the practice of bow and curtsy much like the Belgian and Dutch courts have done.

So to summarize, I don't find this to be anything new because William, Catherine, Harry and Meghan have already been doing this for some time now.  :shrug:

[sara8150]

well it wont happen.  Cat and Will are taking on more work, and obviously the queen will not be here forever.. but she wont abdicate.

Till Queen Elizabeth II died when her uncle the former king Edward VIII abdicated in 1936 when younger Queen Elizabeth II was ten years old but they NOW Queen Elizabeth II is 96 years old she still in charge as head of the state but Queen Elizabeth II vowed to work till she died

[sara8150]

Oh, yes? In panic mode after the Caribbean tour obviously, so a few cosmetic changes are needed eh? Perhaps Harry and Meghan had a better handle on such things than KP imagined!

Well that can be a slippery slope, can?t it? If it?s first names only for royal engagements, then Britons, especially younger ones may well start questioning in the future why these people are living in the utmost luxury in royal Palaces and Houses, don?t have jobs in the way others do, and get money from Duchies and the State (taxes) when eventually they become monarch and consort. And there?s Charles?s reign to go first. I can?t see the POW following suit and asking to be called Charlie by his future subjects.

Unbelievable!! I have agreed with @Nightowl post saying

[LouisFerdinand]

If the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge want to be called by their names, then should not William and Catherine be used instead of Will and Kate?   
What is wrong with curtsies and bowing?