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Royal Family News => Jordan => Topic started by: Wombat on January 07, 2006, 10:00:11 AM

Title: Japanese Monarchy: Articles from 2006-2008
Post by: Wombat on January 07, 2006, 10:00:11 AM
A house divided~ Sydney Morning Herald (http://smh.com.au/news/world/a-house-divided/2006/01/06/1136387628078.html)

QuoteConcubines, divorce and extended family trees - all have been suggested to avoid putting a female on the Chrysanthemum Throne
<_<
Title: Royal allure:Japanese love brand-name products
Post by: Wombat on January 07, 2006, 10:02:18 AM
Royal allure:Japanese love brand-name products, and nothing has a greater cachet than the imperial family ~ Asahi (http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200601060133.html)

QuoteMao Komuro was searching an Internet bookshop looking for some bedtime reading for her 18-month-old daughter when a blurb stopped her in her tracks. "Crown Princess Masako's favorite," trumpeted the entry for "Goodnight Moon," by U.S. children's writer Margaret Wise Brown.
Title: Re: A house divided
Post by: Jenee on January 19, 2006, 02:38:35 AM
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: A house divided
Post by: Lila the Flirt on January 19, 2006, 03:08:12 AM
Sheesh. They need to keep up with the times.  :mellow:
Title: Re: A house divided
Post by: Jenee on January 19, 2006, 03:33:52 AM
so does the british royal family
Title: Guess Who's Not Coming to Dinner?
Post by: Jenee on January 23, 2006, 03:41:12 AM
Mainichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/news/20060121p2g00m0dm011000c.html)

Quote"Princess Masako was expected to return to the palace as soon as Princess Aiko calmed down," a palace source relates. "But a miscommunication occurred."

Expecting Crown Princess Masako to be back at any moment, the family delayed the start of the meal. But with the timing of the formal dinner thrown askew, the chefs and servants at the palace were thrown into a tizzy.

Title: Japan Eyes Return of the Empress
Post by: Jenee on January 23, 2006, 02:03:13 PM
Monsters and Critics (http://people.monstersandcritics.com/royalwatch/article_1078013.php/Japan_eyes_return_of_the_empress)

QuoteJapanese prime minister Junichiro Koizumi plans to submit a bill paving the way for the return of the first empress in 236 years. Mr. Koizumi wants to change the 1947 Imperial Household Law to allow Crown Prince Naruhito's daughter, Aiko, to assume the throne.


Its about time  <_<
Title: Cracking The Boy's Club: Japan's Royal Dilemna
Post by: Wombat on January 24, 2006, 11:37:36 PM
Cracking The Boy's Club: Japan's Royal Dilemna ~ ABC (http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=1525595&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312)

QuoteJapan Ponders Letting Women Rule, or Using Concubines To Insure a Future Emperor
Title: Re: Cracking The Boy's Club: Japan's Royal Dilemna
Post by: Jenee on January 26, 2006, 04:29:43 PM
concubines? oh dear god... why on earth are men so afraid of women in power?
Title: Japan emperor 'must visit shrine'
Post by: Windsor on January 29, 2006, 09:12:15 PM
Japanese foreign minister Taro Aso has called for Emperor Akihito to visit a controversial war shrine - a move that could enrage China and South Korea.


BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4658262.stm)
Title: Rebellion at plans for an empress
Post by: Jenee on February 02, 2006, 02:21:43 PM
The Scotsman (http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=165782006)

QuoteDOZENS of conservative MPs yesterday attacked moves to allow a woman to take the Japanese throne, with one leading opponent warning that the only daughter of the crown prince could marry "a blue-eyed foreigner".
Title: Re: Rebellion at plans for an empress
Post by: Jenee on February 02, 2006, 02:25:17 PM
Japanese rally against female imperial succession (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3559767a12,00.html)

QuoteTOKYO: More than 1,000 people met in Tokyo yesterday to protest at a proposed law change that would allow women and their children to inherit Japan's Chrysanthemum throne.


Mainichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060202p2a00m0na001000c.html)

QuoteDozens of conservative lawmakers and their supporters on Wednesday attacked a proposal to let a woman take the Imperial Throne, warning the move would threaten a centuries-old tradition -- and could even allow foreign blood into the Imperial line.

The lawmakers, led by former Trade Minister Takeo Hiranuma, are fighting a law being drafted by the government to avert a succession crisis in the Imperial Family by allowing reigning Empresses. The 1947 Imperial Household Law allows only men on the throne, and no woman has reigned in more than 200 years.


Lawmakers decries plan to let women ascend Japanese throne (http://news.inq7.net/world/index.php?index=1&story_id=64838)

QuoteThe imperial family has not produced a male heir since the 1960s, and public support has been growing for a change in the law to allow Princess Aiko, the daughter and only child of Crown Prince Naruhito and Crown Princess Masako, to ascend the throne.

Title: Japan's Prince Naruhito Loves James Bond films
Post by: Wombat on February 03, 2006, 03:44:04 AM
Japan's Prince Naruhito Loves James Bond films ~ Female First (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/royal_family/135092004.htm)

QuoteJapan's Crown Prince Naruhito has revealed a love of James Bond films, pub crawls and vinegar-drenched fish and chips wrapped in newspaper
Title: Rally against Japan royals change
Post by: Wombat on February 03, 2006, 05:41:20 AM
Rally against Japan royals change  ~ BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4669408.stm)

QuoteAbout 40 Japanese lawmakers have joined a rally in Tokyo to protest against government plans to allow women to ascend to the throne.
Title: Re: Rally against Japan royals change
Post by: Beebs on February 04, 2006, 01:54:02 AM
:(
Title: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: Wombat on February 04, 2006, 04:47:02 AM
Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?  ~ Independent (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article343104.ece)

QuotePrincess Masako is so weighed down by the demands of imperial life that she wants a divorce, according to the Japanese press, as opposition grows against plans to allow her child, Princess Aiko, to sit on the Chrysanthemum Throne.
These people are making me angry :rant:
Title: Re: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: HM Queen Cheryl on February 04, 2006, 05:14:46 PM
They're royal family wont last long. It's to much pressure to put on a woman to birth a male. It's the male genes that decide the sex of the baby so it's their fault not hers.
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: Beebs on February 05, 2006, 12:16:45 AM
She can't get a divorce.
Title: Re: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: Lila the Flirt on February 05, 2006, 11:54:57 AM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/lila_dm/smilies/darkevil.gif) Why can't they just leave her alone.

Cheryl ~ It will last. It's lasted for hundreds of years. They'll get past this when the government has enough sense to enter the 21st century.  <_<
Title: Japanese empress has dizzy spells, cancels events
Post by: Jenee on February 06, 2006, 12:34:32 AM
MSNBC (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11184849/)

71-year-old has been suffering dizzy spells since October, palace says

QuoteTOKYO - Japan's Empress Michiko, suffering from dizzy spells, has cancelled her official duties for a week, a palace spokeswoman said on Sunday.

Michiko, 71, has had dizzy spells for unknown reasons since October, the spokeswoman for the Imperial Household Agency said.

"The Majesty the Empress plans to return to official duties after taking a sufficient rest for a week," she said.
Title: Re: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: Ladybee on February 07, 2006, 10:52:55 AM
Her sister-in-law Princess Kako, wife of the 2nd Imperial Prince is pregnant.Certainly not a coincidence...
:o

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18070692-2,00.html

Everybody is hoping for a boy. How sexist!
:waaaah:
Title: Re: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: Beebs on February 07, 2006, 10:58:58 AM
Oh poor Princess Masako :(
Title: Re: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: Windsor on February 07, 2006, 11:28:44 AM
If it is Japanese Imperial tradition then I don't see why it should be changed.
Title: Re: Without an heir, is divorce in the air for sad princess?
Post by: Jenee on February 07, 2006, 06:33:19 PM
traditions are BS :rant:

^^nice, calm, logical and rationally supported argument, isn't it :P
Title: Princess Kiko expect thrid baby this fall
Post by: sara1981 on February 08, 2006, 06:58:24 AM
Baby number three for Japan's Princess Kiko
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/02/07/princesskiko/

Japan's Princess Kiko 'pregnant'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4688056.stm

Pregnant princess could cloud debate on Japanese succession
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=O0VCLZMY2HLNFQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2006/02/08/wjapan08.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/02/08/ixworld.html

Pregnancy a blast of fresh heir
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pregnancy-a-blast-of-fresh-heir/2006/02/07/1139074228950.html

Royal pregnancy raises hopes of male heir to Japan's throne
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/royal-pregnancy-raises-hopes-of-male-heir-to-japans-throne/2006/02/07/1139074228329.html

Japan's Princess Kiko Expecting Child
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060208/ap_on_re_mi_ea/japan_imperial_succession;_ylt=AgAlpQ8FFXL9XrUHxcSqsdILewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--

Title: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Wombat on February 10, 2006, 05:27:39 AM
Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne  ~ Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1705456,00.html)

QuoteJunichiro Koizumi, Japan's prime minister, yesterday appeared close to abandoning plans to alter the imperial succession law, a day after it was revealed that Princess Kiko, the wife of the second in line to the throne, was pregnant
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Beebs on February 10, 2006, 08:03:52 AM
<_< , oh well, what can you do?
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: M on February 10, 2006, 09:35:26 AM
Quote from: Britbratbubbles on February 10, 2006, 08:03:52 AM
<_< , oh well, what can you do?

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Beebs on February 10, 2006, 09:39:18 AM
They are not going to change, so the girls on the forum and rant and rave, but it's going to change anything.
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: M on February 10, 2006, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: Britbratbubbles on February 10, 2006, 09:39:18 AM
They are not going to change, so the girls on the forum and rant and rave, but it's going to change anything.

:blink:
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Beebs on February 10, 2006, 09:51:00 AM
Nothing.
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: M on February 10, 2006, 09:57:15 AM
Quote from: Britbratbubbles on February 10, 2006, 09:51:00 AM
Nothing.

:happytears:

I've exasperated you.  :blush:
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Beebs on February 10, 2006, 10:05:01 AM
Na, I'm just not myself tonight.
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: M on February 10, 2006, 10:10:04 AM
Sorry.  I hope you feel more like yourself soon.
Title: Boy or girl?
Post by: Windsor on February 10, 2006, 12:29:36 PM
Princess' pregnancy could scuttle Japan's royal reform

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4693950.stm)
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Windsor on February 10, 2006, 12:51:32 PM
Japan PM 'suspends' royal plans

Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi has reportedly suspended his plan to introduce a bill to allow women to succeed to the Imperial throne.

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4699606.stm)
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Lola on February 10, 2006, 06:35:13 PM
well, i honestly just hope the princess and new baby come out okay and healthy. she had a hard time getting preganant and lost one baby before having her daughter. now this. if she has another girl, they will have to do something b/c this will probably be it. she is almost hitting menopause stage and that new baby may be born with severve birthdefects. so what happens if it is a boy but is born with a severve disability? what really makes me mad is they blame the princess when anyone with any sense knows its THE FATHER that determines the sex of the child not the mother. sheesh!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Lola on February 10, 2006, 06:37:32 PM
okay, is she 39 or 45? cuz i thought i read she was 45? i hope its a healthy boy just so they will leave the princess alone finally. :mad:
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Lola on February 10, 2006, 06:38:52 PM
okay, editing my previous posts: i thought she was 45 but the other thread says she is only 39. oops. not near menopause. :doh:
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Wombat on February 15, 2006, 05:36:12 AM
Japan baby could end royal reform  ~ BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4693950.stm)

QuoteConservatives within Japan's hidebound imperial household must be rejoicing at what must seem a miracle pregnancy.
Title: Re: Pregnancy may force rethink on female heirs for Japan throne
Post by: Lila the Flirt on February 15, 2006, 11:48:21 AM
 <_< They're hoping it'll be a boy.

I didn't read the article.  :blush:
Title: Japan's Empress Michiko Over Illness
Post by: Wombat on February 16, 2006, 03:20:07 AM
Japan's Empress Michiko Over Illness ~ Female First (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/royal_family/140352004.htm)


QuoteMichiko, 71, had been suffering from the mystery spells since October and the decision was made last week to cancel her official duties.

Title: Re: Japan's Empress Michiko Over Illness
Post by: Beebs on February 16, 2006, 09:54:40 AM
Great news  :)
Title: Princess' pregnancy subdues the sleaze
Post by: Jenee on February 19, 2006, 05:32:25 AM
Mainichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/news/20060216p2g00m0dm028000c.html)


QuotePrincess Kiko's pregnancy was the big story for Japan's wild weeklies in the week from Feb. 13 to 17.

Though some magazines will typically let loose on the Imperial Family, the occasion of an Imperial impregnation saw slighter more than usual restraint amongst the men's mags, and festive fanfare from the female fare.

Title: Re: Princess' pregnancy subdues the sleaze
Post by: Beebs on February 20, 2006, 08:49:36 AM
Quoteespecially poor Miki Ando, who was abused yet again for taking too many servings herself and becoming too fat for a figure skater.
What in the world?  <_<
Title: Princess Masako In The Spotlight As Succession Debated
Post by: Wombat on February 21, 2006, 01:57:15 AM
Princess Masako In The Spotlight As Succession Debated ~ Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/02/20/masako/)

QuoteSmiling serenely and elegantly dressed in a sharp pinstripe suit, Japan's Crown Princess Masako stepped out for a rare formal engagement in Tokyo
Title: Re: Princess Masako In The Spotlight As Succession Debated
Post by: Jenee on February 22, 2006, 01:32:54 AM
maybe she's feeling better now that the pressure is off a bit.
Title: Re: Princess Masako In The Spotlight As Succession Debated
Post by: Lila the Flirt on February 22, 2006, 02:32:28 PM
They should leave her be. I think the couple are in love and their marriage has suffered much because of this. :(
Title: Japan's Prince Tomohito To Have Cancer Surgery
Post by: Wombat on February 23, 2006, 11:05:12 PM
Japan's Prince Tomohito To Have Cancer Surgery ~ Female First (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/royal_family/143222004.htm)
QuoteThe operation to remove the cancer was initially scheduled for Monday but was postponed because more detailed examinations were needed.
Title: Re: Japan's Prince Tomohito To Have Cancer Surgery
Post by: Jenee on February 28, 2006, 02:16:26 PM
TMCnet (http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/02/27/1412873.htm)

Cancer Operation Sucessful

QuotePrince Tomohito of Mikasa, a cousin of Emperor Akihito, had an operation on Tuesday to remove throat cancer at Kyorin University Hospital in western Tokyo, the Imperial Household Agency said.
Title: Emperor, Empress pay visit to volcanic island
Post by: Jenee on March 07, 2006, 04:49:45 PM
Mainichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060307p2a00m0na015000c.html)

QuoteEmperor Akihito and Empress Michiko paid a brief visit Tuesday to a volcanic island just south of Tokyo that was evacuated after a major eruption six years ago.

Title: IHA slams media over princess' pregnancy, rumor of family feud
Post by: Jenee on March 07, 2006, 04:50:57 PM
Mainichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060224p2a00m0na036000c.html)

QuoteThe news that Princess Kiko, the wife of Emperor Akihito's second son, is pregnant -- possibly with the Imperial Family's first male heir to the throne in four decades -- has triggered a rash of magazine articles about the happenings inside the moat.

But now the Imperial Palace has had enough. In an unusually harsh statement, the Imperial Household Agency on Thursday accused unidentified magazines of printing errors and urged them to stop it.

Good!

Title: Japanese rally against women on the throne
Post by: Jenee on March 08, 2006, 09:39:18 PM
Stuff (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3597197a12,00.html)

QuoteTOKYO: Thousands of people gathered under a huge rising sun flag at a Tokyo stadium yesterday to protest against a proposal to allow women and their children to accede to Japan's ancient Chrysanthemum throne.


Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi last month abandoned a plan to submit a bill to parliament to let women inherit the imperial throne, following news that Princess Kiko, the wife of the current Emperor's younger son, was pregnant with what many hope will be a male heir.

Again?!
Title: Re: Japanese rally against women on the throne
Post by: Jenee on March 08, 2006, 09:39:55 PM
United Press International (http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060307-072530-9945r)

10,000 rally to keep males on Japan throne
Title: Re: Japanese rally against women on the throne
Post by: Beebs on March 09, 2006, 12:20:14 AM
WOW :blink: thanks Jen
Title: Re: Japanese rally against women on the throne
Post by: Jenee on March 10, 2006, 01:37:41 PM
Reuters (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-03-10T113005Z_01_T312022_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-PRINCE.xml)

Japan prince says royals should adapt to the times
Title: Re: Japanese rally against women on the throne
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 10, 2006, 02:29:04 PM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Japanese rally against women on the throne
Post by: Jenee on March 10, 2006, 11:50:39 PM
Which part are you rolling your eyes at Lila?
Title: Japanese Prince Says Wife's Health Better
Post by: Jenee on March 10, 2006, 11:51:42 PM
QuoteTOKYO (AP) - Crown Prince Naruhito said Friday the health of his wife, Masako, is improving but that she is not well enough to join him on an official trip to Mexico next week.

Masako has been receiving counseling and medication for stress-induced depression since she retreated from official duties in late 2003.


Guardian Unlimited (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5676497,00.html)
Title: Re: Japanese rally against women on the throne
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 11, 2006, 04:23:44 PM
Japanese people adamant at not wanting women to ascend to the throne. I know it's tradition and I respect that but sometimes you have to keep up with the times in order to move forward.
Title: Securing happiness for a princess
Post by: Beebs on March 13, 2006, 04:31:08 AM
Securing happiness for a princess (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fd20060312t3.html)

QuoteRecent years have not been kind to the Crown Prince and his immediate family. The Crown Princess, Masako, suffered a miscarriage in 1999, and afterward came down with shingles, forcing her to cancel many of her public duties.
Title: Only the Y Chromosome Counts
Post by: Beebs on March 13, 2006, 04:32:31 AM
 Only the Y Chromosome Counts  (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/12/weekinreview/12onishi.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)

QuoteIT was one of the biggest rallies in support of Japan's imperial system since the end of World War II: Some 10,300 men and women gathered at the Budokan martial arts arena to protest a proposal that would let women become empresses and pass along title to the Chrysanthemum Throne. At the end, the throng stood and raised their arms in unison while shouting, "Long live the emperor!"
Title: Re: Securing happiness for a princess
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 13, 2006, 07:08:01 AM
Not really a related story but..

Japan's Child Princess Gets A Taste Of Disney  (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-03-13T054416Z_01_T334874_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-PRINCESS.xml)
Title: Re: Securing happiness for a princess
Post by: Beebs on March 13, 2006, 07:32:29 AM
Awww, how cute. Thanks Lila :)
Title: Re: Securing happiness for a princess
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 13, 2006, 01:36:37 PM
 Hello!  (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/03/13/princessaiko/)
Title: Re: Securing happiness for a princess
Post by: Jenee on March 13, 2006, 03:15:22 PM
Since all the disney stuff is in here...

Japanese 4-yr-old princess gets taste of Magic Kingdom (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-03-13T053802Z_01_T334874_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-PRINCESS.xml)
Title: Re: Securing happiness for a princess
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 13, 2006, 03:17:51 PM
 :happy: I didn't want to make another thread. :)
Title: Crown Prince Naruhito departs for Mexico to attend international water meeting
Post by: Jenee on March 15, 2006, 09:33:20 PM
Mainichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060315p2a00m0na019000c.html)

QuoteCrown Prince Naruhito departed Wednesday for a visit to Mexico during which he will attend an international water summit and meet Mexican President Vincente Fox, palace officials said.

Crown Prince Naruhito, who had postgraduate studies on the history of water canals at Oxford University's Merton College in 1983-1985, is to deliver a keynote speech at the Fourth World Water Forum opening Thursday in Mexico City.
Title: Re: Crown Prince Naruhito departs for Mexico to attend international water meeti
Post by: Beebs on March 16, 2006, 08:10:36 AM
Watch it Prince Naruhito, Fox is a real fox...and I don't mean sexy  <_<.
Title: Smiling Masako faces the press
Post by: Jenee on March 16, 2006, 02:50:55 PM
Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/03/15/princessaiko/)

QuoteJapan's Crown Princess Masako made her second public appearance in three days when she joined her husband Naruhito and their little girl Aiko for a photocall on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Crown Prince Naruhito departs for Mexico to attend international water meeting
Post by: Jenee on March 16, 2006, 02:53:25 PM
Japan's crown prince arrives in Mexico (http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/03/15/1463785.htm)
Title: Re: Crown Prince Naruhito departs for Mexico to attend international water meeting
Post by: Beebs on March 17, 2006, 02:44:22 AM
Run away Naruhito, run away!
Title: Re: Smiling Masako faces the press
Post by: Beebs on March 18, 2006, 10:27:06 AM
 monsters and critics (http://people.monstersandcritics.com/royalwatch/article_1139037.php/Japans_princess_pleases_public)
Title: Re: Smiling Masako faces the press
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 18, 2006, 02:16:52 PM
I'm glad she's feeling much better. :D
Title: Naruhito Adopts "Western" look for Yucatan Trip
Post by: Jenee on March 21, 2006, 01:48:32 PM
Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/03/20/princenahurito/)

QuotePrince Naruhito of Japan was looking more Western than Eastern when he donned a cowboy-style hat for a visit to the Mayan ruins of Uxmal on the Yucatan Peninsula at the weekend.
Title: Japanese Monarchy: Articles from 2006-2008
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 23, 2006, 11:47:10 AM
 Hello!  (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/03/23/princessmasako/)

QuoteHer increasing health is likely to be due to the support of her husband Crown Prince Naruhito. Throughout this difficult period in her life the former career diplomat has had his full backing.

:D
Title: Enthusiastic welcome for Naruhito from Aiko
Post by: Jenee on March 23, 2006, 02:38:00 PM
Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/03/22/princessaiko/)

QuoteHer daddy was back home after an overseas trip, and little Princess Aiko's excitement over his return was clear for all to see. As Crown Prince Naruhito pulled up in a limo, his four-year-old daughter couldn't even wait for him to get out of the car before calling out enthusiastically to greet him.
Title: Re: Enthusiastic welcome for Naruhito from Aiko
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 23, 2006, 02:39:38 PM
She looked so cute. And she only got a pat on the head?  :cry:
Title: Re: Enthusiastic welcome for Naruhito from Aiko
Post by: Jenee on March 23, 2006, 02:58:11 PM
I know!!
Title: Princess Aiko attends Gakushuin school fair
Post by: Jenee on April 17, 2006, 12:13:21 AM
QuotePrincess Aiko on Sunday attended a concert and took part in children's games at the student festival at Gakushuin, the school where she started kindergarten earlier this month.

TMC Net (http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/04/16/1575494.htm)
Title: Parents to be in the spotlight
Post by: Jenee on April 26, 2006, 03:17:35 AM
QuoteJapan's expectant Princess Kiko may be under intense scrutiny in the run-up to the birth of her third child, but on a recent engagement in Tokyo she gave no hint of being under pressure.

Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/04/25/princesskiko/)
Title: Safe-birth ritual held for Japanese princess
Post by: Jenee on April 28, 2006, 02:52:16 AM
Scotsman (http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=630102006)

QuoteTOKYO (Reuters) - The wife of Japanese emperor Akihito's second son, pregnant with a possible heir to the Chrysanthemum throne, on Thursday underwent an ancient ritual to pray for a safe birth.

Title: Re: Safe-birth ritual held for Japanese princess
Post by: chavita on April 28, 2006, 02:53:49 AM
interesting :)
Title: Prince Tomohito Hospitalized Again For Slight Breathing Problem
Post by: Wombat on May 04, 2006, 12:02:52 AM
Prince Tomohito Hospitalized Again For Slight Breathing Problem ~ Asia Yahoo (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060501/kyodo/d8hb0k1o0.html)
Title: Kindergarden a walk in the park for Aiko
Post by: Jenee on May 17, 2006, 10:50:38 PM
Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/05/16/princessaiko/)
QuoteJust over a month after she first started at Tokyo's Gakushuin Kindergarten Princess Aiko seems to be getting into the swing of things. The royal youngster arrived hand-in-hand with her mum Masako for a class picnic, kitted out rather more informally than she was on her first day of school in April.


Mom seems to be doing well!
Title: Former princess proving an astute shopper
Post by: Jenee on May 28, 2006, 07:10:03 AM
Manichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/news/20060527p2g00m0dm011000c.html)

QuoteWhat has attracted the notice of Shukan Bunshun (5/25), however, is how graciously Mrs. Kuroda appears to be coming to terms with her new status. Clad in a white spring coat, blue jeans and brown walking shoes, she could be seen strolling down the local shopping street in her neighborhood (which the reporter, in the interest of privacy, or more likely, security, refrains from identifying).

Title: Prince Naruhito to perform official duties while Emperor visits
Post by: Jenee on May 31, 2006, 03:51:13 AM
Manichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060530p2a00m0na007000c.html)

QuoteCrown Prince Naruhito will perform official duties on behalf of Emperor Akihito while his father is on a visit to Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand in mid-June, government officials said Tuesday.
Title: Japan's emperor visits Singapore
Post by: Wombat on June 09, 2006, 07:20:58 AM
Japan's emperor visits Singapore ~ BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5059082.stm)
QuoteJapan's Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko have set off for a week-long tour of South East Asia, beginning with a state visit to Singapore.
Title: Japan's royal heir seeks a more normal life
Post by: Wombat on June 14, 2006, 05:14:33 AM
Japan's royal heir seeks a more normal life ~ Reuters (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-06-14T022039Z_01_T262964_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-PRINCE.xml&src=rss)
QuoteNow some people, including the crown prince himself, say Japan's imperial household needs to modernise, abandoning ancient practices which have forced members of the royal family to sacrifice personal ambition and suppress their feelings.
Title: Re: Japan's royal heir seeks a more normal life
Post by: Jenee on June 14, 2006, 07:05:45 PM
All royal families do that!!
Title: Japan's prince plays viola, pays tribute
Post by: Jenee on July 11, 2006, 02:15:15 AM
The Washington Times (http://www.washtimes.com/upi/20060709-012323-8728r.htm)

QuoteJapanese Crown Prince Naruhito performed in Beethoven's 9th Symphony during a concert at Tokyo's Gakushuin University, Kyodo news service reported Sunday.
Title: Pregnancy Complications for Princess Kiko
Post by: Jenee on July 18, 2006, 02:22:16 PM
Due to pregnancy complications, Princess Kiko will deliver her 3rd child early and by C-section.


Mainichi MSN (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060718p2a00m0na024000c.html)
Mainichi Daily News (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060718p2a00m0na020000c.html)
Reuters (http://today.reuters.co.uk/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-07-18T072252Z_01_T288921_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-PRINCESS-BABY.xml)


They have not announce whether it is a boy or a girl. A boy would mean an end to the stress put on the Crown Prince and Crown Princess to produce a male heir (the Crown Princess has one daughter and is alreay in her 40's).
Title: Re: Pregnancy Complications for Princess Kiko
Post by: hippie_cyndi on July 18, 2006, 09:22:24 PM
i hope its a girl...if its a boy...then when the crown prince comes 2 power...i hope he changes this sexist law :rant: making kiko an empress :devil:
Title: Japan weeklies predict princess to bear male heir
Post by: Wombat on July 27, 2006, 07:44:44 AM
Japan weeklies predict princess to bear male heir ~ China Daily (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2006-07/27/content_650886.htm)
QuoteJapan's royal baby isn't due for weeks, but popular magazines, never shy about probing the secrets of the great and famous, have already decided that the imperial family is about to welcome its first male heir in over 40 years.

Title: Re: Pregnancy Complications for Princess Kiko
Post by: HM Queen Cheryl on July 27, 2006, 04:31:22 PM
I believe it should be by birth order. The men in royal families have had plenty of centuries to screw things up.
Title: Re: Pregnancy Complications for Princess Kiko
Post by: Jenee on July 29, 2006, 01:09:22 AM
Yahoo! News (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060727/kyodo/d8j49dao6.html)

QuotePrincess Kiko, pregnant with a possible heir to Japan's imperial throne and who was diagnosed with a complication last week, is in stable condition, the Imperial Household Agency said Thursday.



CBS: Japan's Pregnant Princess Doing Well (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/world/main1841388.shtml)
Title: Re: Japan weeklies predict princess to bear male heir
Post by: Jenee on July 29, 2006, 01:10:38 AM
Japan's Princess Kiko Is Having A Boy (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004348478)

^^ even though that is the title of the article, they say in the text that it is still just speculation
Title: Safe birth ceremony held for Princess Kiko
Post by: Jenee on August 01, 2006, 01:18:22 PM
Reuters (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-08-01T092247Z_01_T315023_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-ROYAL-BABY.xml&src=rss)

QuoteTOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's Princess Kiko, pregnant with a possible heir to the throne, donned a red and white silk "obi" sash in a traditional ceremony on Tuesday to pray for the royal infant's safe birth.
Title: Re: Safe birth ceremony held for Princess Kiko
Post by: Cassidy on August 02, 2006, 11:32:51 AM
I kind of hope that it'll be a girl and the laws will be changed :shrug:
Title: Re: Safe birth ceremony held for Princess Kiko
Post by: HM Queen Cheryl on August 02, 2006, 03:54:36 PM
I hope its a girl too.
Title: Princess Mako departs for Austria on homestay trip
Post by: Jenee on August 05, 2006, 05:23:33 AM
Yahoo! Asia (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060803/kyodo/d8j8msng0.html)

QuotePrincess Mako, the 14-year-old granddaughter of Emperor Akihito, left for Austria on Thursday for a two-week homestay trip in the European country.
Title: Acclaimed film on Emperor Hirohito opens in Japan
Post by: Jenee on August 05, 2006, 04:24:47 PM
QuoteTokyo, Aug. 5 (AP): A critically acclaimed movie portraying the late Emperor Hirohito during the closing weeks of World War II opened in Japanese theaters on Saturday, more than a year after the biopic first screened overseas.

``The Sun,'' directed by Russia's Alexander Sokurov, depicts the former emperor _ played by Issey Ogata _ as a man of solitude and grief, not as a man of power.


The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200608051965.htm)
Title: Princess Kiko sets date
Post by: Jenee on August 08, 2006, 03:09:08 PM
QuoteTOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's Princess Kiko, pregnant with a possible heir to the throne, will likely have her baby by a Caesarean operation around September 6, public broadcaster NHK said on Tuesday.

Scotsman (http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1149102006)

Title: Pregnant princess is taken into hospital before birth
Post by: Jenee on August 16, 2006, 02:43:49 AM
QuotePrincess Kiko of Japan will be admitted to hospital today, three weeks ahead of an eagerly-awaited royal birth.

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/16/wprincess16.xml)
Title: Japan's Kiko prepares for delivery
Post by: traciebelle on August 16, 2006, 05:11:35 AM
Japan's Kiko prepares for delivery (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/08/16/japan.princess.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: Pregnant princess is taken into hospital before birth
Post by: Cassidy on August 16, 2006, 04:41:50 PM
Quote
A proposal to change the law, allowing four-year-old Princess Aiko, the only daughter of Crown Prince Naruhito, to eventually succeed, was shelved with the unexpected pregnancy of his sisterin-law.

I read that and when I got to sisterin-law I was still thinking of Princess Aiko and I thought sisterin was some kind of family relation I hadn't heard about before :laugh:
Title: Re: Pregnant princess is taken into hospital before birth
Post by: hippie_cyndi on August 16, 2006, 05:38:42 PM
i hope she's okay...&...i pray they have a daughter :)
Title: Re: Japan's Kiko prepares for delivery
Post by: Jenee on August 16, 2006, 06:05:53 PM
Japan holds breath for Princess Kiko (http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/930987.htm)

Title: Re: Pregnant princess is taken into hospital before birth
Post by: Jenee on August 16, 2006, 06:07:02 PM
While I think it would be great to attempt to modernize the Japanese monarchy by allowing a female to be the heir, I don't think this would be the best way to do it. I think that if she does give birth to a daughter, more pressure will be placed on the Crown Princess to have another baby, and that will not be good for her health.
Title: Masako and family jet off to the Netherlands
Post by: Jenee on August 18, 2006, 02:35:37 PM
News: The Internet Forum (http://theinternetforum.co.uk/node/1254)


Click Here (http://www.theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php?board=39.0) for the Dutch Royal Family forum



Other stories

Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/08/17/japaneseroyals/)
Japanese Crown Prince and Princess head to Netherlands (http://www.brunet.bn/news/bb/fri/aug18w14.htm)
Crown Prince and family fly off to Holland (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060818a3.html)
Prince on holiday to destress (http://www.asianage.com/main.asp?layout=2&cat1=2&cat2=30&newsid=241769&RF=DefaultMain)
Crown Prince Naruhito leaves with family for holiday in the Netherlands (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060817p2a00m0na020000c.html)
Japan's stressed princess seeks respite in Netherlands (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060817/en_afp/japannetherlandsroyalpeople)
Can stressed princess bear a male heir to Chrysanthemum Throne? (http://www.mb.com.ph/OPED2006081872034.html)

Title: Re: Masako and family jet off to the Netherlands
Post by: hippie_cyndi on August 19, 2006, 12:03:48 AM
adorable pics of Aiko...&..Amalia playing together :wub:

JAPANESE ROYALS MADE TO FEEL AT HOME IN NETHERLANDS (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/08/18/japaneseroyals/)

QuoteQueen Beatrix is playing hostess to Naruhito, his wife Masako and their daughter Aiko at Het Loo Palace, a beautiful fifteenth century castle in Apeldoorn on the outskirts of Amsterdam. By the look of the happy scene it seems that the Dutch monarch, together with her son Prince Willem Alexander and his Argentine wife Maxima, had given their royal visitors an especially warm welcome as they began their summer sojourn.

Title: Re: Masako and family jet off to the Netherlands
Post by: Jenee on August 19, 2006, 12:24:15 AM
Aww, that is cute!
Title: Re: Masako and family jet off to the Netherlands
Post by: Lola on August 19, 2006, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: hippie_cyndi on August 19, 2006, 12:03:48 AM
adorable pics of Aiko...&..Amalia playing together :wub:

JAPANESE ROYALS MADE TO FEEL AT HOME IN NETHERLANDS (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/08/18/japaneseroyals/)



they are so cute together!  :wub:
Title: Re: Masako and family jet off to the Netherlands
Post by: Jenee on August 20, 2006, 07:58:12 PM
The Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060820a8.html)

QuoteCrown Prince Naruhito and his family, on a private two-week trip to the Netherlands, visited former royal stables with Queen Beatrix and her family Friday in the eastern Dutch city of Apeldoorn.
Title: I am uninformed about the Japanese royals
Post by: PrincessKLS on August 21, 2006, 02:33:01 AM
I'm uninformed about the Japanese royals, and most royals. The royalty I know best is the British. Anyway, I know that it's still illegal for a female in Japan to succeed to the throne and there's a crisis since the most recent prince and princess have a 3-4 year old baby girl. Anyway, what religion do they follow and do they have to marry someone of the same religion to retain their crown or right to the throne?
Title: Re: I am uninformed about the Japanese royals
Post by: M on August 21, 2006, 02:37:00 AM
I read this and thought, who moderates this?

Then I looked and saw that I do!

I don't know anything about the Japanese Royal Family either.  :shrug:

So I looked them up.

Here's what I found: Imperial House of Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_royal_family)

Title: Re: I am uninformed about the Japanese royals
Post by: Lila the Flirt on August 21, 2006, 03:53:52 AM
Quote from: M on August 21, 2006, 02:37:00 AM
I read this and thought, who moderates this?

Then I looked and saw that I do!


:rolleyes:
Title: Re: I am uninformed about the Japanese royals
Post by: M on August 21, 2006, 03:54:13 AM
 :teehee:
Title: Re: I am uninformed about the Japanese royals
Post by: PrincessKLS on August 21, 2006, 06:02:56 AM
Thanks but it still didn't discuss the religion. I assume they may be Buddhists or Shintos
Title: Re: I am uninformed about the Japanese royals
Post by: M on August 21, 2006, 06:09:20 AM
I have no idea.  You might research it on the internet and let us know what you find. :)
Title: Re: I am uninformed about the Japanese royals
Post by: Jenee on August 21, 2006, 06:53:45 PM
This thread (http://www.theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php?topic=9641.0) has some general information about the Japanese royals. It doesn't cover religion, but I will see what I can find online and get back to you

Most forums do have a "general information" thread pinned at the top of them. That is one thing that all the mods worked hard to create last year!! I'm glad to see they are getting some use!


Ok, here is what I found: Link (http://www.asianartmall.com/shintoarticle.htm)

I don't know how valid it is, and it doesn't mention the Imperial family specifically, but here's a quote:

QuoteThe Shinto religion of Japan is considered, along with Buddhism as the official religion of Japan.  Over 80% of the population of Japan is either Buddhist or Shintoist.
Title: The Religion & Heredity of Japan Imperial House
Post by: hippie_cyndi on August 21, 2006, 07:47:28 PM
Here is the Constitutional background on Male vs. Female inheritance

1889 (http://www.geocities.com/jtaliaferro.geo/1889law.html)

1947 changing heredity monarch (http://www.geocities.com/jtaliaferro.geo/1947con.html)

Its the oldest heredity monarchy in the world...1,500 yrs old

QuoteAccording to the historical chronicles of ancient Japan, the Kojiki (Record of Ancient Matters, AD712) and the Nihon Shoki (Chronicle of Japan, AD720), the sun goddess Amaterasu Omikami presented the sanshu no jingi or Imperial Regalia to her grandson, Ninigi no Mikoto. He in turn passed them on to his descendants, the emperors, the first of whom was Emperor Jimmu. The regalia, a mirror, a sword and a curved jewel are symbols of the legitimacy and authority of the emperor. These creation myths also form the foundations of the indigenous Shinto faith.

The Link (http://www.japan-zone.com/culture/imperial.shtml)
Title: Re: Masako and family jet off to the Netherlands
Post by: Jenee on August 22, 2006, 07:51:40 PM
Royal visit, tag-along Japanese press get Dutch media play (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060822f1.html)

QuoteDutch media have reported a rare private trip to the Netherlands by Crown Prince Naruhito and his family -- and Japanese reporters who converged in the country to cover the visit -- with a sense of curiosity.
Title: Re: Masako and family jet off to the Netherlands
Post by: Jenee on August 26, 2006, 12:03:41 AM
Princess' holiday criticised (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/royal_family/Princess++holiday+criticised-22439.html)
Title: Time Asia: Royal Roots
Post by: Jenee on August 30, 2006, 01:17:44 AM
Time Magazine has done a feature on Japanese Royalty

Royal Roots (http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers/501060904/timeline.html)
Title: Japan's Princess Kiko to give birth Wednesday
Post by: Jenee on September 02, 2006, 06:24:44 PM
QuoteJapan's Princess Kiko, pregnant with a possible heir to the Chrysanthemum throne, is to give birth on Wednesday, an official at the Imperial Household Agency said on Friday.

Kiko, 39, the wife of the emperor's younger son, Akishino, is to undergo a Caesarean section after pregnancy complications.

The Scotsman (http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1294152006)
Title: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: hippie_cyndi on September 04, 2006, 02:21:00 AM
Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-2341874,00.html)

QuoteWHEN Princess Kiko, second daughter-in-law of Emperor Akihito, became pregnant last January, it seemed like an answered prayer. Hopes were high that, at last, the world's oldest hereditary monarchy would have a male heir.

On Wednesday, after months of speculation, the question will finally be settled when Princess Kiko will give birth by Caesarean section.

But courtiers are now worried that even the arrival of a male heir may not guarantee the long-term survival of the Imperial family.
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: Varya on September 05, 2006, 03:34:19 AM
Why is it sooo disastrous for a female to have the throne and why will that be the end of the monarchies survival?
I get that they are more traditional but still...
Title: Its A Boy!
Post by: Stix Chix on September 06, 2006, 12:21:44 AM
Princess gives birth to boy -- Yahoo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060905/ap_on_re_as/japan_imperial_succession)
Quotehe boy, the first male heir born in Japan since Akishino in 1965, was born at 8:27 a.m. and weighed about 7 1/2 pounds, the palace said.
Title: Re: Its A Boy!
Post by: Stix Chix on September 06, 2006, 01:04:49 AM
It's a prince! -- The Internet Forum (http://www.theinternetforum.co.uk/node/1316)
Title: Re: Its A Boy!
Post by: Jenee on September 06, 2006, 01:25:01 AM
I think it is a good thing for the pressure to be taken off... however, I still think the law should be changed.

Happy birthday little baby!!
Title: Re: Its A Boy!
Post by: riley on September 06, 2006, 03:02:54 AM
Thankfully he's healthy too. Now there's a ton of pressure off of Kiko and the other wives. I'm glad all worked out well for their family. Many blessings to the baby. Cheers.
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: riley on September 06, 2006, 03:05:44 AM
Japan's always had male heirs for the longest time....and they aren't a culture that wants to change it. There's nothing wrong with a female heir...becuase for most of us we've grown up in an equal opportunity (or closest thing to it) society. I don't know if they'll change the law or not, they most likely were if this baby was a girl....thankfully it's a boy, but you never know. It's tradition...and it's not our tradition, therefore it's hard to understand. Cheers.
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: hippie_cyndi on September 06, 2006, 03:55:03 AM
over 60% of the population support the rite of girls 2 ascend 2 the throne....the problem is with few hardcore conservative men...who got almost violent with members of the royal family...for suggesting a change.....its really sad......but i see a change in the near future...this boy who was born for princess kiko will be under tremendous political environment.....but when Prince Naruhito comes 2 the throne....his daughter will be next in-line.
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: QB on September 07, 2006, 12:59:41 AM
WHAT???Surely this is media speculation and the palace haven't said anything like this? Japan now have a male heir, why would they even CONSIDER changing this law when they now have a reason not to! :fuming: :fuming: :fuming: :fuming:
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: hippie_cyndi on September 07, 2006, 04:54:23 AM
why wouldn't they change a sexist...archiac law that only serve 20% of the population's interest...mostly men who think women are 3rd class citizen...never 2 be seen...let along heard about  :rolleyes: :windsor: the IH made Princess Masako's life a living hell...instead of using their brain...2 focus on what an asset a woman with diplomatic training is for a dying monarchy...where even the japanese public are questioning its existance  :gaah:

Title: Prince welcomed with shouts of 'Banzai' as birth suspends fight on imperial futu
Post by: hippie_cyndi on September 07, 2006, 04:59:36 AM
Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-2346202,00.html)

funny...how the only plp coming out 2 celebrate 'Banzai' are only men  :rolleyes:

QuoteThe arrival of a boy derails plans to allow women to succeed to the throne, which were to have been put before Japan's parliament, the Diet.

"It is better for us to warmly watch over [the baby] quietly for the time being," said Junichiro Koizumi, the outgoing Prime Minister, who supported the idea of a reigning empress. "I think it is better for us to spend ample time to contemplate what the imperial family means . . . we're not talking about submitting [the Bill] to the Diet next year or something like that."

But he went on to make the point that historians and members of the imperial court had been quietly emphasising in the build-up to yesterday's birth: that one male baby did not in itself ensure the survival of the imperial line.

i think the problem will also be eliminated....if when a princess marries 'a commoner'...she doesn't lose her title...&...place in the IH...which is as bad as banning a female from becoming an empress  :shrug:
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: QB on September 07, 2006, 07:53:13 AM
this law is not AT ALL sexist or archaic.:fuming: I think it is incredibly unfair to say it only serves the interest of 20% of the population. I don't know, but I'm assumuming that means 20% of the population of Japan is male? lower than I expected, but anyway.....is that to say a male regent does not serve the interest of women? that has never been the case. Countries with male regents have no history of not serving the interest of their female citizens than any other country. To say a male regent can't represent women is simply untrue, as it has been done very well by many, and will continue to.
And people who want this wonderful wonderful law to be upheld do not believe women are third class citizens who should be seen and not heard is not only untrue but incredibly defamatory :fuming: I don't see what wanting a male regent has to do with thinking women should be seen not heard and considerering them 3rd class. that's a pretty horrible thing to say. the two do not go together at all. .:fuming:
This did not make Masakos life a living hell. For starters, her life was not made a living hell,  and even it is was, it has NOTHING to do with this. If there really was no one to continue to line of succession, then they would have eventually had to make a choice of either ending their monarchy, or changing a law that would allow a female the throne if there was no one else. that's what they always planned on doing. Yes, maybe someone with a career like Masakos could have been 'used' more, but who's to say that's what she, or anyone in that family wants? maybe that is how the run that family, and I still don't see what that has to do with their succession laws? it';s just another potshot people like to take at Japans royal family out of some misguided need for equality, and believe 'equal' succession rights has something to do with it just because the world equal and female aer mentioned in those sentances.
This law is the best thing that happened to every monarchy, and all monarchs, even the female monarchs know it.  The idiots who make these disgustingly unfounded and uneducated decisions about succession rights are the ones who have nothing to do with the monarchy, and no real interest in it or what is best for it, and it's people. because it could take a long time before the after effects are really felt,  these people wont be around the suffer for their stupid mistakes. others will have to be around to pick up the peices. a son has been born to the Japanese Imperial family. to change their successions laws would be a travesty. .:fuming:
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: hippie_cyndi on September 07, 2006, 08:04:53 AM
QuoteI don't see what wanting a male regent has to do with thinking women should be seen not heard and considerering them 3rd class. that's a pretty horrible thing to say

who decides the 'male regent' qualifies...who designated that only 'carrier of XY chromosomes' have some kind of divine law...2 rule a monarchy...whether cerimonial or not....the fact that you are arguing having a MALE as the only form of monarchy somehow justifies the claim a WOMAN is not fit 2 rule...give me 2 good reason why the change 2 succession is somehow horrible for the monarchy?

I mean if we are all obsessed with 'tradition'...it was a tradition for a man 2 have a wife...&...a mistress...it was a tradition 2 keep slaves.....why reject one...@ the expense of another...in my view...what's wrong...&...archaic/backward is just that...no amount of cover up justifies such a views/believe.

ps. about the 20%...it was about couple of polls done in Japan...2 see public opinion about changing the law...or keeping it as it is.
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: QB on September 08, 2006, 11:04:32 AM
Well who knows who decided a male should be regent? possibly someone in the royal family? I don't know. thhe point is, it was decided and that's how the monarchy was 'designed' to work. If it was designed for a female, I would be saying the same thing about equal succession rights for men. It's not about men and women AT ALL, which is the mistake a lot of people make and why such misguided thinking can so easily destroy the monarchy forever.
I did not say a woman is not fit to rule....everyone knows how much admiration I have for our Queen- but that doesn't mean there should be equal succession rights! One of the reasons I admire QEII so much is because of how wise and smart she is and how she knows what is best for the monarchy and does it- one of the reasons why she herself does not agree with equal sucession laws.
It is not being obsessed with tradition, and I don't think it was ever exactly 'tradition' for slaves, mistresses and so on, but the reason you should reject one at the expense of the other is because they have absoloutley NOTHING to do with each other at all. how can you compare cheating on your marriage or keeping a slave to a succession law that even female monarchs support? there's just no comparrison. As I mentioned, people like to make this law out to be more than it is. There is absoloutley NOTHING archaic or backward about this rule, and to call is such is to be dismissing what is important to the monarchy and overlooking what is really important. And there are things a lot more important than being able to say we give women equal succession rights. that is really nothing to be so proud about really.
So 20% want the law changed to equal female succession? that isn't very much, and even if it was, that means nothing. Average every day people really do not always know a lot about the monarchy and how it has to work. As I've mentioned before, people hear the word female and equal in the same sentace and automatically think it's great, and fail to listen to anything else because they want so desperately to be seen as 'fair' which this also has nothing to do with this. There are many, many people who know better the workings of the monarchy and what it needs to survive. what the public think they want is absoloutley irrelevant, because as I've said, the after effects will end the monarchy, but possibly not for a couple of generations, depending on how many female regents there actually ends up being. Now that a male has been born, the Japanese givernment have NO EXCUSE to pass a law like that. none at all  :fuming: I'd just love to hear them give one reason as to why people should support such a ridiculous change! they have no real interest in the monarchy, and therefore no right to destroy it  :mad:
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: Jenee on September 08, 2006, 10:53:27 PM
Quote from: QB on September 08, 2006, 11:04:32 AM
So 20% want the law changed to equal female succession?

You've got it backwards-- the public opinion polls in Japan have said that only 20% DO NOT want to change to an equal succession law.

QuoteOpinion polls suggest that the majority of Japanese people support the idea of female royal succession. But conservatives argue it could dilute the imperial line.

BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4426176.stm)

QuotePublic opinion polls conducted shortly after Kiko's pregnancy was announced in February showed a majority of Japanese favored letting women ascend the throne, but that slightly more than half were opposed to a quick revision of the succession law.

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/04/japan.princesses.reut/index.html)
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: hippie_cyndi on September 08, 2006, 11:58:36 PM
thanx for posting these links Jenee  :hug:

QuoteIf it was designed for a female, I would be saying the same thing about equal succession rights for men. It's not about men and women AT ALL, which is the mistake a lot of people make and why such misguided thinking can so easily destroy the monarchy forever.

:blink: you kidding right? Since when anything pertaining 2 public role was designed for a woman? if we all sat home...waiting...hoping...for men 2 designate what's "male prerogative"...&...what's DESIGNED for females...we'll be waiting till armagedon....2 get basic human rights...like the Right 2 Education.....Right 2 Vote....Right 2 Inherit property....Right 2 control our bodies & sexuality....yada...yada

The whole argument that some laws are just for the good of the monarchy....cus it exclude females/women does not make sense whatso ever.....these laws were created bc of PATRIARCHAL Views that says...a woman does NOT have the same logic/intelligence/ruling power...as men...also, since men are the one who inherit the father's lineage/heritage...a woman was considered 2 belong 2 her husband's family...NOT...the one who carries on the family name...that's why Male Inheritance in most of the world Monarchy was preserved...until democracy & civil laws came 2 be the practice...well atlease in most Western....&....part of Asian countries.....i've yet 2 hear an intelligent debate of why we should not change the law  :shrug: not that your argument weren't well thought out QB....i love debating with you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Time Asia: Royal Roots
Post by: Cassidy on September 09, 2006, 04:30:50 PM
Quote1947 The Imperial Household Law stipulates that only males may ascend to the throne

Is this correct? :hmm:
Title: Re: Time Asia: Royal Roots
Post by: Jenee on September 10, 2006, 01:26:18 AM
Yes, it is called "The Imperial Household Law of 1947"

There was a law in 1889 with the same stipulations

Title: Re: Its A Boy!
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 10, 2006, 03:12:01 AM
Aiko could ascend, but marry a nobleman from an ancient noble house with an emperor as an ancestor. Either way, it's nice to hear of another royal birth.
Title: Re: Its A Boy!
Post by: blue eyes on September 10, 2006, 05:05:52 AM
:baby: congratulations
Title: Re: Time Asia: Royal Roots
Post by: Cassidy on September 10, 2006, 02:57:12 PM
Ahh, it seemed like that was the first time that law was presented :shrug:
Title: Re: Time Asia: Royal Roots
Post by: Jenee on September 10, 2006, 04:08:15 PM
From what I've read, there were... 8 (i think) empresses in the past-- but they all managed to ascend to the throne indirectly-- though the deaths of husbands or brothers, etc. Then there was some sort of reform where they re-wrote the constitution and created that law of 1947.

QuoteThe government of Prime Minister Yoshida Shigeru hastily cobbled together the legislation to bring the Imperial House -in compliance with the American-written Constitution of Japan that went into effect in May, 1947

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_House_of_Japan#Succession)
Title: Re: Time Asia: Royal Roots
Post by: Cassidy on September 10, 2006, 07:03:13 PM
So it's a pretty recent law. That's interesting. So it's not really the almighty tradition that it's made out to be elsewhere...
Title: Born to rule: monarchy puts the success into succession
Post by: Jenee on September 11, 2006, 02:58:18 AM
QuoteHeredity matters. All 109,000 of the baby boys born last Wednesday (yes, that's roughly how many get born every day around the world) will have inherited a Y chromosome from their fathers. All will have inherited a combination of genes from both their parents, and these genes will determine every-thing from the colour of their hair to their aptitude for mathematics, maybe even their sexual proclivities in adulthood. An unlucky few will inherit some hereditary defect or disease. By contrast, a lucky few will, in the course of their lives, inherit fortunes, the size of which will depend on the acumen (or the luck) of their parents and the laws governing inheritance, not to mention the taxes on it, in the country of their birth or later residence.

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/09/10/do1002.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2006/09/10/ixopinion.html)
Title: Public Profile of Japanese Princess Raised Due To Royal Birth
Post by: Jenee on September 11, 2006, 03:00:02 AM
All Headline News (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004803484)

QuoteTokyo, Japan (AHN) - Japan's Princess Kiko has been enjoying a surge of popularity since giving birth to the first male heir to throne in 40 years.

She is now being lauded as the perfect wife, mother and even as a national symbol of courage.

That's the press for you.
Title: Re: Born to rule: monarchy puts the success into succession
Post by: M on September 11, 2006, 03:01:00 AM
Interesting.  :happy:
Title: Re: Public Profile of Japanese Princess Raised Due To Royal Birth
Post by: Cassidy on September 11, 2006, 01:58:40 PM
Oh my word  :mellow:

Poor Masako.
Title: Re: Born to rule: monarchy puts the success into succession
Post by: Cassidy on September 11, 2006, 02:10:25 PM
Huh.  :huh:
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: QB on September 12, 2006, 12:14:19 AM
Quote from: hippie_cyndi on September 08, 2006, 11:58:36 PM
thanx for posting these links Jenee  :hug:

:blink: you kidding right? Since when anything pertaining 2 public role was designed for a woman? if we all sat home...waiting...hoping...for men 2 designate what's "male prerogative"...&...what's DESIGNED for females...we'll be waiting till armagedon....2 get basic human rights...like the Right 2 Education.....Right 2 Vote....Right 2 Inherit property....Right 2 control our bodies & sexuality....yada...yada

The whole argument that some laws are just for the good of the monarchy....cus it exclude females/women does not make sense whatso ever.....these laws were created bc of PATRIARCHAL Views that says...a woman does NOT have the same logic/intelligence/ruling power...as men...also, since men are the one who inherit the father's lineage/heritage...a woman was considered 2 belong 2 her husband's family...NOT...the one who carries on the family name...that's why Male Inheritance in most of the world Monarchy was preserved...until democracy & civil laws came 2 be the practice...well atlease in most Western....&....part of Asian countries.....i've yet 2 hear an intelligent debate of why we should not change the law  :shrug: not that your argument weren't well thought out QB....i love debating with you  :thumbsup:

Women in Japan have good human rights. but none of the rights you've mentioned have anything to do with succession laws. i don't see how people can use those argument as a reason for female succession?
These laws DO NOT say anything about womens intellegence or logic, or ruling power. As far as I know, that has never been bought up as a reason to keep the current system. The thing is, monarchies and MADE to have  King and Queen. Without that, it leads to the total deterioration of the monarchy which could cause all sorts of other political problems. Maybe that isn't an intellegent enough reason to you.....but I'm still waiting for a reason as to why this law should be changed? there's just no reasoning behind it. But I also enjoy a good little debate with you H_C! :hiya:
Title: Japan's new prince named Hisahito
Post by: karla64 on September 12, 2006, 01:49:15 PM
Interesting name

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/12/japan.prince.name.ap/index.html
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: Jenee on September 13, 2006, 11:33:56 PM
Quote from: QB on September 12, 2006, 12:14:19 AM
The thing is, monarchies and MADE to have King and Queen. Without that, it leads to the total deterioration of the monarchy which could cause all sorts of other political problems.

:huh?:
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: QB on September 14, 2006, 06:04:02 AM
Don't look so shocked Jen! It's the only way monarchies were designed to successfully work! Every country who passed this ridiculous law will have no monarchy in 40-80- years time, possibly even sooner.
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: hippie_cyndi on September 14, 2006, 07:22:12 PM
why do you believe...changing the succession law will end the monarchy in 40-80 yrs? Are women ruler/queens really that threatening to these royal houses...if so...why is that?
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: Jenee on September 15, 2006, 04:49:05 AM
Britain doesn't have a King and they seem to be doing just fine :shrug:
Title: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: traciebelle on September 15, 2006, 08:53:58 AM
Japan's littlest prince goes home (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-09-15T060934Z_01_T221664_RTRUKOC_0_UK-JAPAN-ROYAL-PRINCE.xml&src=rss)

QuoteJapan's newborn prince left hospital for home on Friday as well-wishers waved flags and cheered the first royal boy to be born in 41 years.




Title: Re: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: karla64 on September 15, 2006, 01:26:54 PM
cute baby... lot of hair.... 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/15/japan.prince.ap/index.html
Title: Re: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: karla64 on September 15, 2006, 02:00:29 PM
more photos...

http://www.fotobank.com/editorial/N009-5957/37.html
Title: Re: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: Jenee on September 15, 2006, 11:53:42 PM
Aww, cute, thanks!
Title: Re: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: Lola on September 16, 2006, 02:45:26 AM
 i am glad the baby and mother are okay and all....but its a shame that japan is so stubborn about having a girl to inherit the throne...what are they afraid of? that she would have made women equal and moderized the imperial family? oh, the shock if that should happen! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: AHoch82 on September 16, 2006, 05:31:35 AM
Aw!
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: QB on September 16, 2006, 02:15:04 PM
it's not about the rules being male or female at all, which is my opinion that I wish everyone would accept so they can stop calling this law sexist. a monarchy cannot function the way it is supposed to, long term, without a King. That is why monarchies will end if they have too many consecutive female rulers.
Jen, I wouldn't say Britain is doing fine, but of course they do still have their monarchy- one of the reasons being that their Queen is absoloutley incredible. I think most of you know my thoughts on what a wonderful Queen she is. She's smart, knows the monarchy and is therefore also againts changing the succession laws.  However, where she to have had a daughter, and her to have had a daughter, the monarchy in Britain would be on it's way out very soon indeed.I think three consecutive ruling Queen would be the maximum any monarchy could ever hope to survive, no matter how popular the royal family was.
Title: A modern princess in a traditional world
Post by: traciebelle on September 16, 2006, 03:56:50 PM
A modern princess in a traditional world / Hello Profile (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/specials/japaneseroyal/pagina_1_1.html)

QuoteMasako Owada was an ambitious, career-driven 29-year-old diplomat when she took on the challenge of a lifetime – becoming a crown princess in the world's oldest reigning family.
Title: Re: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: Jenee on September 16, 2006, 07:37:32 PM
Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/09/15/japan-royal-baby/)
Title: Re: Japan's littlest prince goes home
Post by: Windsor on September 17, 2006, 03:36:36 PM
The Princess looks very happy.
Title: Re: A modern princess in a traditional world
Post by: Windsor on September 17, 2006, 03:37:05 PM
Nice link - Thank you for posting it. :happy:
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: Windsor on September 17, 2006, 03:38:16 PM
I see no reason why the law governing Imperial Succession need to be changed, especially now that an male heir has been born.
Title: Re: Even a new prince can't prevent the move to a female heir
Post by: Jenee on September 17, 2006, 04:49:04 PM
If a male heir hadn't been born Windsor, what would you have thought??  Necessity trumps tradition??
Title: Re: A modern princess in a traditional world
Post by: pinkDiamond on September 17, 2006, 09:58:10 PM
She's pretty interesting.  I like how she was her own person before getting married. 
Title: Re: A modern princess in a traditional world
Post by: dizzylizzy13 on September 17, 2006, 10:27:43 PM
Boy, and I thought life in the Windsor family was supposed to be restricting ... poor woman. Her husband sounds sweet. I guess now that her sister-in-law has the boy, she can relax a little?
Title: Cultural revolution in the air despite birth of Hisahito
Post by: Wombat on September 25, 2006, 07:39:16 AM
Cultural revolution in the air despite birth of Hisahito ~ Scotsman (http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1410542006)
QuoteHE WAS only a tiny bundle weighing 5lbs 9oz when born this month, but the arrival of Prince Hisahito (meaning sacred and calm) brought into sharp relief the seismic changes taking place in Japanese society
Title: Imperial Guard, 19, kills self with pistol
Post by: Wombat on September 29, 2006, 06:50:54 AM
Imperial Guard, 19, kills self with pistol ~ Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060929a9.html)
QuoteAn Imperial Guard was found collapsed Thursday in the Imperial compound in Tokyo's Akasaka district and later confirmed dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, Imperial Household Agency sources said
Title: Re: Imperial Guard, 19, kills self with pistol
Post by: Smartie** on October 04, 2006, 01:34:50 AM
wow, so sad.
I wonder why he commited suicide? I find it odd that he went to work, and then killed himself. I mean, why did he even attend work?
well I hope his family is alright :(
Title: Re: Imperial Guard, 19, kills self with pistol
Post by: Wombat on October 04, 2006, 05:13:08 AM
Maybe then his family would get a payout because it occurred on the job :mellow:
Title: Re: Imperial Guard, 19, kills self with pistol
Post by: Jenee on October 04, 2006, 10:47:49 PM
I don't think it works that way wombat :unsure:
Title: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: Jenee on October 07, 2006, 02:23:26 AM
An expert on the Imperial family proposed Thursday that Prince Hisahito, who was born last month, be adopted by his uncle, Crown Prince Naruhito, to prepare for his role as a future emperor from an early age.

Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20061006a3.html)



yeah, that would go over well!

Title: Re: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: Cassidy on October 07, 2006, 04:40:53 PM
It's not as bad as it sounds :shrug:

QuoteTokoro added that the Imperial House Law needs to be revised to allow females and their descendants to succeed to the throne to avoid a succession crisis in the world's oldest monarchy.
Title: Re: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: hippie_cyndi on October 07, 2006, 05:29:47 PM
so, he adopts a baby that has his own qualified parents....cus his own daughter isn't good enuf 2 be his heir...by her being born a girl  :rolleyes: really....couldn't he come up with a better choice...what with his phd education & all   ;)
Title: Re: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: Cassidy on October 07, 2006, 10:50:44 PM
I think he was thinking more in terms of legal issues, so little Hisahito could legally be Crown Prince Naruhito's heir, instead of the boy's father, who is next in line after the crown prince at the moment.
I don't think he's suggesting Hisahito would be raised by Naruhito :shrug:
Title: Re: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: hippie_cyndi on October 08, 2006, 12:30:36 AM
i get that...but as the law stands rite now....hisahito is 3rd in-line after his dad & uncle naruhito...since only male can inherit the crown  :shrug:
Title: Re: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: HM Queen Cheryl on October 08, 2006, 03:30:38 AM
I think his father can teach him being royal himself. Besides the CP has is own child to raise to be empress.
Title: Re: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: M on October 08, 2006, 03:48:14 AM
Should I feel guilty for not caring about this?  :teehee:
Title: Re: Imperial Guard, 19, kills self with pistol
Post by: M on October 08, 2006, 03:48:43 AM
Sad  :no:
Title: Re: Professor suggests Crown Prince adopt his nephew
Post by: hippie_cyndi on October 08, 2006, 09:04:47 PM
 :laugh: nope....its a useless scenerio.
Title: Japanese Monarchy: Articles from 2006-2008
Post by: Wombat on October 12, 2006, 06:50:07 AM
Royal support for Save the Vulture campaign ~ Bird Life (http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2006/10/vulture_campaign.html)
QuoteOn Saturday 7 October, a gala dinner was held in Tokyo where Her Imperial Highness Princess Takamado of Japan, Honorary President of BirdLife International, launched a campaign to support BirdLife's initiative to rescue Asia's ailing vulture populations. Her Imperial Highness spoke of the importance of BirdLife's quick actions to save vultures in the region
Title: Prince Akishino to visit Paraguay
Post by: Wombat on October 14, 2006, 10:13:56 AM
Prince Akishino to visit Paraguay ~ Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20061014b3.html)
QuotePrince Akishino will leave for a weeklong tour of Paraguay and other countries from Oct. 30, the Imperial Household Agency said Friday
Title: Her Majesty Answers to Questions by the Press
Post by: Wombat on October 22, 2006, 01:14:13 AM
Her Majesty Answers to Questions by the Press ~ Kunaicho (http://www.kunaicho.go.jp/kisyakaiken/kisyakaiken-h1801-01-1.html)
QuoteWhile I was glad to learn that Princess Akishino was expecting, I could not help but wish for her safe pregnancy and delivery as I thought about Princess Akishino having a child after a lapse of 11 years. Although there was an unexpected development of partial placenta previa in the process until birth, we were fortunate that all danger was averted thanks to the devoted care extended by the people concerned.
Title: Crown Princess Masako 'gaining confidence'
Post by: Wombat on November 05, 2006, 02:17:14 AM
Crown Princess Masako 'gaining confidence' ~ Yomiuri (http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20061104TDY02003.htm)
QuoteCrown Princess Masako's doctors say she is feeling more confident after an official visit to Nara in late October, according to the Imperial Household Agency.
Title: Re: Crown Princess Masako 'gaining confidence'
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 06, 2006, 07:11:53 PM
Well good for her. She needs it since she fell apart over so much bullying by the IHA.
Title: Japan's baby prince presented at royal shrine
Post by: Wombat on November 14, 2006, 06:51:43 AM
Japan's baby prince presented at royal shrine ~ Scotsman (http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1683932006)
QuoteTwo-month-old Prince Hisahito, the first boy to be born into Japan's royal family in more than 40 years, was presented at a Shinto shrine in the imperial palace grounds on Tuesday in a traditional ceremony for royal babies
Title: AIKO MARKS PASSAGE INTO CHILDHOOD WITH ANCIENT CEREMONY
Post by: Jenee on November 23, 2006, 01:03:09 AM
QuoteJapan's Princess Aiko might only be four years old but she was the epitome of professionalism and poise as the Imperial family held a centuries-old ceremony to celebrate her passage from infancy to childhood and give thanks for her growth.

Hello! (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2006/11/13/japan-princess-aiko/)


What a beautiful kid!
Title: Re: AIKO MARKS PASSAGE INTO CHILDHOOD WITH ANCIENT CEREMONY
Post by: Cassidy on November 26, 2006, 01:14:04 AM
She's really cute :happy:
Title: Re: AIKO MARKS PASSAGE INTO CHILDHOOD WITH ANCIENT CEREMONY
Post by: agentblueberry on November 26, 2006, 01:50:37 AM
cute sprout
Title: Japanese emperor meets with visiting Indonesian president
Post by: Jenee on November 28, 2006, 03:53:11 AM
QuoteIndonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono met with Emperor Akihito at the Imperial Palace in Tokyo on Monday and attended a banquet there later in the day.

Yudhoyono is on a four-day visit to Japan, during which the two countries are expected to agree on the broad outlines of a free-trade deal.

International Herald Tribune (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/27/asia/AS_GEN_Japan_Indonesia.php)

Title: Japanese princess turn 5 with future in the balance
Post by: Jenee on December 02, 2006, 05:28:10 AM
QuoteJapan's Princess Aiko celebrated her fifth birthday on Friday with few clues as to whether the future will see her ascending the Chrysanthemum Throne or bargain-hunting at the local supermarket.

Scotsman (http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1782052006)

:bday:
Title: Re: Japanese princess turn 5 with future in the balance
Post by: hippie_cyndi on December 02, 2006, 06:42:15 AM
she's sooooooo adorable....&...looks pretty smart for her age :)
Title: Crown Princess marks her 43rd birthday
Post by: Jenee on December 10, 2006, 01:22:44 AM
QuoteCrown Princess Masako, wife of Crown Prince Naruhito, marks her 43rd birthday on Saturday and said in a prepared statement that life with their 5-year-old daughter, Princess Aiko, has been a "pleasure." Princess Aiko is now in kindergarten.


The Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20061209a8.html)

:bday:

Title: Japanese Foreign Ministry has confirmed the visit of Emperor to Estonia
Post by: Jenee on December 16, 2006, 12:37:14 AM
QuoteEmperor Akihito and Empress Michiko will start their ten-day European tour on next May 21.

They are to visit Great Britain, Sweden, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania

The Baltic Times (http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/17037/)

Title: Emperor addresses issues of bullying, war dead in 73rd birthday news conference
Post by: Wombat on December 23, 2006, 10:46:08 AM
Emperor addresses issues of bullying, war dead in 73rd birthday news conference ~ MDN (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061223p2a00m0na006000c.html)
QuoteEmperor Akihito spoke about issues including bullying, mourning the war dead, and the growth of Princess Aiko and Prince Hisahito, as he answered questions by the press ahead of his 73rd birthday on Dec. 23
Title: Japanese emperor celebrates heir's birth in New Year's poem
Post by: Wombat on January 02, 2007, 05:11:16 AM
Japanese emperor celebrates heir's birth in New Year's poem ~ IHT (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/01/asia/AS_GEN_Japan_Emperor.php)
QuoteJapanese Emperor Akihito celebrated the birth of his grandson — the imperial family's first male heir in four decades — in a New Year's poem issued to the public on Monday.
Title: Japan's Emperor Greets Public at Palace
Post by: Jenee on January 03, 2007, 05:40:45 AM
QuoteThousands of well-wishers waving Japanese flags gathered Tuesday at the Imperial Palace for a series of rare appearances by Emperor Akihito and the royal family marking the new year.

The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6317588,00.html)
Title: Japan's Imperial tombs are opened to view
Post by: Jenee on January 05, 2007, 06:20:28 AM
Times (http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,10295-2531131,00.html)

QuoteThe tombs of Japan's ancient emperors have been shrouded in myth for centuries, until now
 
After years of intrigue, secrecy and much heated debate, some of Japan's most mysterious monuments will be opened up for public inspection for the first time.

:woo: I love intrigue!!
Title: Emperor, empress to attend 1st movie premiere
Post by: Wombat on January 21, 2007, 09:19:18 AM
Emperor, empress to attend 1st movie premiere ~ Japan Today (http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/396649)
QuoteEmperor Akihito and Empress Michiko will attend the Japan premiere of the joint-Japanese-Korean movie "I'll Never Forget You" at Nissho Hall next Friday, film distributor Sony Pictures confirmed Saturday. It will be the first time for the imperial couple to attend a public movie premiere
Title: Re: Emperor, empress to attend 1st movie premiere
Post by: Jenee on January 24, 2007, 06:02:45 AM
Funny how the Japanese IF will modernize in some ways, but not in others <_<
Title: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: Wombat on January 24, 2007, 09:40:49 AM
Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace' ~ Metimes (http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070122-073627-6504r)
QuoteFor the past three years the health problems of Princess Masako, wife of Japan's Crown Prince Naruhito, have kept her out of the public eye while making her a subject of fascination.
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: heather on January 25, 2007, 03:48:58 AM
  My heart goes out to Princess Masako.
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: hippie_cyndi on January 25, 2007, 04:52:11 AM
it looks like japan's media have yet 2 get over this 'depressed princess' bandwagon....she's  doing her best with the support of her husband!
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: truly_thata on January 25, 2007, 05:11:41 AM
she's modern woman and locked by royal protocol..
sorry for her
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: dizzylizzy13 on January 25, 2007, 05:33:19 AM
It's kind of interesting to me that while almost every little girl at some point has a fantasy of being a princess when she grows up, often the "lucky few" who actually do marry into a royal family seem to suffer from depression and unhappiness afterwards.
It must not be the happy ending the fairy tales promise ...

Good at least that she has a supportive husband, and that the ridiculous pressure is off her to produce a male heir.
I have heard that the IVF hormones are linked to depression -- I wonder if some of this was connected to that ...
I hope she gets better and finds her way out of the darkness.
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 28, 2007, 06:02:46 PM
Maybe if the Crown couple could somehow live off of the main grounds and form a lighter household of sorts, maybe Masako could get better and maybe lose enough stress, conceive, and get a boy. Stress is linked to infertility and also miscarrying. The biggest issue is that she's been under so much mental pressure that it's been wrecking her health. She really needs to go on a Hawaiian vacation. barbecues and Luaus will perk her up and maybe she and Akihito could conceive and have a baby.



Then defect to America.

As for the lucky few, a lot of them don't realize that it isn't like marrying into a bank and unlimited credit. It is marrying a job.
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: princessealiénor on January 28, 2007, 06:33:27 PM
Being a modern woman in a RF must be sometimes hard when the protocol is very traditional , comes for another time!!

I guess she would be more happy now!!
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: PrincessKLS on January 29, 2007, 11:48:24 PM
Isn't there a big law in Japan that if a member of their royal family marries a "commoners" they lose their title and rights? I'm asking because it said she used to be a diplomat. Unless they make exceptions for diplomats. Which I don't think they do because I've heard recently about a princess born into that family that married a diplomat and since he was "common" she had no more birth rights.
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: Ladybee on January 30, 2007, 08:48:33 AM
QuoteIsn't there a big law in Japan that if a member of their royal family marries a "commoners" they lose their title and rights?

That's right. The Emperor's only daughter, Princess Sayako, married a commoner in 2005, and consequently lost all her titles.About her birth rights....well, girls cannot be Empresses in Japan. :waaaah: There were actually discussions about changing the law...until Masako' sister-in-law becames surprisingly pregnant with a boy...
:hmm:
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: princessealiénor on January 30, 2007, 08:52:42 PM
unlike the law change, that will be the same thing with princess Aiko and the two daghter of the prince of Akishino
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: travelingchick16 on January 31, 2007, 04:47:53 PM
I can only imagine how difficult it must be for Masko in a very traditional conversative household. I mean it has to be such a life altering experience, and she is coping the best she can. But who knows, I mean maybe the press just likes to hype this up and isn't allowing her to move on.  :(
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: Jenee on February 04, 2007, 05:05:45 AM
Quote from: PrincessKLS on January 29, 2007, 11:48:24 PM
Isn't there a big law in Japan that if a member of their royal family marries a "commoners" they lose their title and rights?

That's a good point... I wonder why Sayako had to give up her position, but Nurhito did not? Possibly because he is male? They are still a very male-driven society.
Title: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Jenee on February 04, 2007, 05:26:05 AM
Taipei Times (http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2007/02/03/2003347464)

QuoteChina wants to invite Japan's Crown Prince Naruhito and his wife Crown Princess Masako to the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics in 2008, a Japanese newspaper said yesterday.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Jenee on February 04, 2007, 05:26:54 AM
Other articles:

Mainichi Daily News ~ China invites Prince Naruhito, Princess Masako to opening ceremony of Olympics (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20070202p2a00m0na020000c.html)
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 04, 2007, 05:06:15 PM
That's actually pretty decent of China. Given the history between the two countries and the Rape of Nanjing, I must say that China is being fairly magnaminous.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Miryoku on February 05, 2007, 07:40:23 PM
Hopefully this will be a step towards repairing relations between China and Japan...although there is still a lot of road to travel yet.
Title: Re: Depressed Japanese princess a 'prisoner of palace'
Post by: Miryoku on February 05, 2007, 07:50:20 PM
It must have been a huge transition for her from being an independent career-woman to a member of what is arguably the most traditional Royal household in the world.  Thankfully, some of the pressure is off her now that she has "produced" a male heir to the throne (a concept that I personally find sexist and disagreeable)...the remnants of the mental anguish due to the pressure from the royal household, the Japanese people, and the media to conceive a male child for all of those years must still linger.

I wish Princess Masako all the best and hope that she is receiving the help and support that she truly needs.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 06, 2007, 06:01:57 PM
Quite true, but it would be lovely if things could get better from here on. Maybe a trip sometime to the Forbidden City and Chinese delegates could tour the Imperial Palace. That would be quite good I think.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Miryoku on February 07, 2007, 08:52:50 AM
I think an official apology and acknowledgement from Japan of the true extent of the atrocities committed during the Rape of Nanjing and from China for the wartime atrocities they committed as well, would do much to heal the rift...or at the very least some sort of formal acknowledgement from both sides to just bury the hatchet regardless of who is "at fault" or "more at fault"...although, given the proud history of both countries, I doubt either of these things will ever happen. 

Your idea of sending delegates to each country would be a nice compromise - a gesture of friendship and diplomacy while still allowing both sides to save face.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: heather on February 07, 2007, 09:07:26 AM
 :thumbsup:

    China might want to apologise to it's own people for Tianamen Square....etc 
        (excuse spelling)
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 07, 2007, 04:09:16 PM
QuoteYour idea of sending delegates to each country would be a nice compromise - a gesture of friendship and diplomacy while still allowing both sides to save face.

I think that's what this invitation is for. A nice gesture to get things moving forward nicely.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Miryoku on February 07, 2007, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: heather on February 07, 2007, 09:07:26 AM
China might want to apologise to it's own people for Tianamen Square....etc 
        (excuse spelling)

Seeing as the Chinese government won't even officially acknowledge that the Tiananmen Square massacre even happened, I doubt that will ever happen.  As a Chinese Canadian and as a general citizen of the world, I am really hoping that the Beijing Olympics puts some pressure on China to acknowledge the mistakes and crimes they have committed against their own people (and those of other countries as well) and genuinely reform their human rights policies.
Title: Re: Japanese emperor celebrates heir's birth in New Year's poem
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 08, 2007, 12:38:01 AM
Why doesn't he just walk over and slap Masako in the face? It would hurt physically, but the emotional damage would be minimal.
Title: Re: Japanese emperor celebrates heir's birth in New Year's poem
Post by: Miryoku on February 08, 2007, 05:25:50 AM
It seems ridiculous that one would celebrate the birth of a grandson in such a fashion...but not the birth of a lovely granddaughter who IMO should have every right to the throne.  Or the fact that the birth of any child, regardless of gender, should be treated equally and as a special moment.
Title: Re: Japanese emperor celebrates heir's birth in New Year's poem
Post by: heather on February 08, 2007, 05:29:33 AM
  Very sad how little girls are treated all over the world, this is just one example. :cry:
Title: Re: Japanese emperor celebrates heir's birth in New Year's poem
Post by: Lila the Flirt on February 08, 2007, 10:17:26 AM
 :mellow:
Title: Re: Royal support for Save the Vulture campaign
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 13, 2007, 06:27:36 AM
Strange, I didn't know paparazzi was endangered.
Title: Re: Royal support for Save the Vulture campaign
Post by: heather on February 14, 2007, 06:48:44 AM
 :laugh:
Title: Aussie journo defends princess book
Post by: Wombat on February 14, 2007, 09:25:39 AM
Aussie journo defends princess book ~ The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21226564-1702,00.html)
QuoteAUSTRALIAN journalist Ben Hills is refusing to apologise after finding himself at the centre of an international diplomatic incident with Japan over a book he wrote about Crown Princess Masako
Title: Japan protests over princess book
Post by: hippie_cyndi on February 15, 2007, 02:25:43 AM
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6360401.stm)

QuoteThe Japanese government said Ben Hills' book contains groundless claims and insults the royal family, and wants an apology and corrections.

Mr Hills said he had nothing to apologise for and accused officials of trying to suppress his book.

He said the only person who deserved an apology was Crown Princess Masako for her treatment by the royal family.

Princess Masako was a diplomat who spoke several languages and travelled the world before her 1993 marriage to Crown Prince Naruhito, heir to the Chrysanthemum Throne.

Why would the gov't get involved....it will only give the author more unwanted free publicity......some of what he said are true anyway :shrug:
Title: Re: Aussie journo defends princess book
Post by: agentblueberry on February 15, 2007, 02:28:27 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Aussie journo defends princess book
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 15, 2007, 05:47:25 AM
I don't believe the Japanese government can do anything about this, neither can the Austrailian government for that matter. There's no way that the book will be banned (possibly in Japan, but that is only one country out of how many?) and nothing will stop this book from being sold. The main argument that the Chamberlain presents is that it denigrates the work that the Emperor and Empress have done for lepers in Japan. Ultimately though, I think that the IHA has a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: Royal support for Save the Vulture campaign
Post by: Cassidy on February 16, 2007, 10:25:47 PM
:happytears:
Title: Re: Aussie journo defends princess book
Post by: Jenee on February 17, 2007, 05:05:47 AM
Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/15/wjapan15.xml)

QuoteJapan's extreme sensitivity over its royal family was laid bare yesterday when it reacted furiously to an unauthorised biography of its most famous — and controversial — princess.

Lodging a formal protest with the government of the author's native Australia, the Tokyo government described the account of the life of Princess Masako as "disrespectful and distorted" and demanded an apology.

Title: Re: Aussie journo defends princess book
Post by: Wombat on February 17, 2007, 07:36:02 AM
What's complaining to the Australian government going to do? :shrug:
Title: Re: Royal support for Save the Vulture campaign
Post by: Jenee on February 18, 2007, 04:33:28 AM
:lmao:
Title: Re: Aussie journo defends princess book
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 21, 2007, 03:53:30 AM
I read the book at a bookstore. Poor Masako; after reading about her plight I cannot fathom how Naruhito could have lied ot her to get her to marry him. That poor woman was lied to and is now having to share her life with spinsters and elderly widows for her company (her ladies-in-waiting) and when Naruhito blasted the IHA publicly it was compared to Diana's Panorama moment. I sometimes wish Masako could escape so she could go to America or Britain and unleash all the details of her miserable existence and watch the IHA get fried. If any woman has the right to do this, it's her.
Title: Re: Aussie journo defends princess book
Post by: Cassidy on February 22, 2007, 06:29:13 PM
I think I'd like to read this book. It sounds interesting.
Title: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: hippie_cyndi on February 23, 2007, 05:58:52 PM
Hello (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/02/23/nahurito-masako/)

QuoteJapan's future emperor has called on the people of his country to be patient with Crown Princess Masako. Speaking just a few days ahead of his 47th birthday, Crown Prince Naruhito said his wife was slowly recovering from the emotional problems she has been suffering for the past three years.

adorable family pics :happy:
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Lila the Flirt on February 24, 2007, 02:53:58 AM
 :gaah: leave her alone.
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: truly_thata on February 24, 2007, 03:10:35 AM
great husband :flowers:
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Varya on March 01, 2007, 07:25:13 PM
That is wonderful that he spoke out publicly on her behalf!
And the press and everyone else should leave her alone, sick or not, let her be!
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: dizzylizzy13 on March 01, 2007, 07:50:56 PM
She is lucky to have such a loyal and supportive husband, many women aren't fortunate enough to have a man like that ...
I hope she is able to overcome her depression, it is a very real and difficult thing to come out of sometimes.
The media really should leave her alone right now.

I think maybe they should try living somewhere outside Japan for a while, at least until she can get her bearings.
Australia or California maybe?
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Jenee on March 04, 2007, 07:40:31 AM
I don't know if that's feasable since he's the crown prince. :hmm:
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 05, 2007, 06:22:39 AM
Not possible. The IHA wouldn't allow it in case Masako tries to defect and then tell her story.
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: QB on March 05, 2007, 01:33:12 PM
Haakon and Mette-Marit of Norway lived in England for a short while....I think they were both studying at the time....I think it could be done, and would probably be really good for them, however I'm sure his family, and indeed the Japanese people all know if they did break free, they would never ever come back. And who could blame them? either way, I really love that he sticks up for his wife, he has always been so supportive of to the public!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 05, 2007, 02:23:22 PM
Quote from: QB on March 05, 2007, 01:33:12 PM
I really love that he sticks up for his wife, he has always been so supportive of to the public!  :thumbsup:

indeed. :thumbsup:
Title: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: Cassidy on March 06, 2007, 06:50:31 PM
Japanese empress ill with stress (http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/administration/afp-news.html?id=070306160123.ksr2t2sx&cat=null)

Quote
Japan's Empress Michiko will take a break from official duties due to sickness caused by stress, the palace said Tuesday, making her the second member of the family to fall ill under the public glare.

The 72-year-old empress has suffered bleeding in her intestines a few times, and will take 10 days off from later this month, a palace spokesman said.
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: marine2109 on March 06, 2007, 08:05:27 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Miryoku on March 06, 2007, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: Kuei Fei on March 05, 2007, 06:22:39 AM
Not possible. The IHA wouldn't allow it in case Masako tries to defect and then tell her story.

And what a story it would be...I wonder if at some point the truth will come out.  Her depression didn't surface for no reason - it is good that her husband is supportive, but I can't help but think that he contributed in some way to her current situation...perhaps not directly but by standing aside and doing nothing (or not enough) when the IHA began to control her every movement and was putting immense pressure on her to produce a male heir.
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: Jenee on March 08, 2007, 05:30:58 AM
The gilded walls of Japan's imperial palace (http://www.guardian.co.uk/japan/story/0,,2027850,00.html)


This does not look good- first Masako and now the Empress?
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: hippie_cyndi on March 08, 2007, 05:33:36 AM
well she manage 2 put on the bright face for close 2 40 yrs....poor her.

....maybe that's why Masako has been doing more duty lately.
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: hippie_cyndi on March 08, 2007, 05:36:37 AM
well...he had 2 propose 3 times to her before she accepted him...she loved him but felt her professional and personal life will end......if she joined his family.....but her parents & his insistence got the better of her...and she married him with the promise he'll always stand by her.
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Miryoku on March 08, 2007, 05:47:22 AM
Maybe there's something to be said for going with your initial instinct...if she was having reservations about the marriage right from the start maybe she should have listened to her intuition.
Title: Re: Naruhito pleads for patience over Masako's recovery
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 08, 2007, 07:26:38 AM
I believe Masako refused a number of times, as well as her father refusing on her behalf. However, Naruhito was persistant and kept at it until she gave in. Besides, there was no real way for the Owadu family to simply say 'no' and then tell Naruhito to leave Masako alone. Over in Japan the Imperial Family is revered and once I read that a journalist had been attacked by a Japanese teenager because he had written something critical of the Imperial Family.
Title: ghost stories entertain Masako and Charles
Post by: truly_thata on March 10, 2007, 02:59:53 AM
Inventions and ghost stories entertain Masako and Charles (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/03/07/masako-schools/)

Title: Re: ghost stories entertain Masako and Charles
Post by: Wombat on March 10, 2007, 06:33:27 AM
wow :hmm:
Title: Re: ghost stories entertain Masako and Charles
Post by: Cassidy on March 10, 2007, 10:10:33 PM
Masako looked good. I hope we'll see more of her. :happy:
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: dizzylizzy13 on March 11, 2007, 03:32:10 AM
Oh no, that's worrisome.
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: hippie_cyndi on March 11, 2007, 10:57:14 AM
she has 'internal bleeding'....its just that IHI wants 2 use 'stress'...as 2 claim the new book about Masako caused it...any excuse 2 censor it will do it seems.
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: dizzylizzy13 on March 12, 2007, 01:05:30 AM
Oh, thanks HC, I hadn't thought of that ...
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: truly_thata on March 12, 2007, 01:58:18 AM
 :cry:
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: Lila the Flirt on March 16, 2007, 02:58:00 PM
is there something going on? the women in the family seem to be ill :shrug:
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: heather on March 16, 2007, 09:26:51 PM
  What is going on is women being forced to live an unnatural life style, where they are stifled at every step.
    They have no rights, they have no say, very little privacy, they are not even allowed to be themselves. :thumbsdown:
     
Title: Re: Japanese empress ill with stress
Post by: Wombat on March 17, 2007, 09:56:27 AM
I agree Heather :notamused:
Title: Re: Royal support for Save the Vulture campaign
Post by: Pri on March 19, 2007, 04:48:49 AM
:blink:
Title: Japan's future Emperor gets a taste of life on the farm
Post by: karla64 on March 29, 2007, 05:18:15 PM
cute baby...

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/03/29/prince-hisahito-kiko/
Title: Re: Japan's future Emperor gets a taste of life on the farm
Post by: truly_thata on March 30, 2007, 10:22:38 AM
he's look unhappy?
Title: Re: Japan's future Emperor gets a taste of life on the farm
Post by: marine2109 on March 30, 2007, 06:42:02 PM
I think so cute!!!
Title: Chinese premier, Japanese emperor agree friendly ties benefit both countries
Post by: Wombat on April 13, 2007, 09:54:41 AM
Chinese premier, Japanese emperor agree friendly ties benefit both countries ~ CCTV (http://www.cctv.com/english/20070413/100514.shtml)
QuoteChinese Premier Wen Jiabao met with Japanese Emperor Akihito at the Imperial Palace on Thursday.
Title: Re: Chinese premier, Japanese emperor agree friendly ties benefit both countries
Post by: truly_thata on April 13, 2007, 10:12:45 AM
hope they could fix the political relation betwen China and Japan :notamused:
Title: New diary says Japan's emperor quit shrine visits over war criminal concerns
Post by: Wombat on April 26, 2007, 09:18:45 AM
New diary says Japan's emperor quit shrine visits over war criminal concerns ~ IHT (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/26/asia/AS-GEN-Japan-Emperor-War-Shrine.php)
QuoteFormer Japanese Emperor Hirohito stopped visiting a Tokyo war shrine at the center of Japan's diplomatic dispute with neighboring nations because of displeasure over its 1978 enshrinement of top war criminals, according to new documents published Thursday
Title: Japan's Emperor & Empress visit nursery school
Post by: Miryoku on May 11, 2007, 03:17:12 AM
Imperial couple show off gentle grandparenting skills (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/05/10/japanese-royals/)

QuoteMore often pictured looking poised and regal while fulfilling official duties, the Emperor and Empress of Japan were snapped showing off a warmer, family oriented side as they joined toddlers at a Japanese nursery school on Thursday. Visiting Tokyo's Yakumo kindergarten Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko cheerfully joined in the fun and games and brought a smile to the faces of many of the young charges.

Cute to see how excited the children are :)
Title: Re: Japan's Emperor & Empress visit nursery school
Post by: Cassidy on May 11, 2007, 12:21:00 PM
Very nice :happy:
Title: Re: Japan's Emperor & Empress visit nursery school
Post by: Lila the Flirt on May 11, 2007, 03:24:08 PM
I like Empress Michiko. I have no idea as to why however. She just looks sweet and cute :teehee:
Title: Re: Japan's Emperor & Empress visit nursery school
Post by: hippie_cyndi on May 11, 2007, 08:24:30 PM
I know....she seems such a compassionate woman....I wonder how she survived in a royal house controlled by courtier than would make Windsor house look like a Disney ride.
Title: Re: Japan's Emperor & Empress visit nursery school
Post by: Miryoku on May 11, 2007, 09:07:19 PM
I've wondered that too...she must be made of really tough stuff.
Title: Princess Aiko and Crown Princess Masako attend kindergarten picnic
Post by: Jayne on May 15, 2007, 10:59:53 PM
Crown Princess Masako, right, and her daughter Princess Aiko arrive at the Shinjuku Gyoen Park for the princess' kindergarten picnic in Tokyo Tuesday, May 15, 2007

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070515/481/ksx10105150147
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070515/481/ksx10305150146
Title: Re: Princess Aiko and Crown Princess Masako attend kindergarten picnic
Post by: Cassidy on May 16, 2007, 04:26:23 PM
Princess Aiko is so cute! :)
Title: Re: Princess Aiko and Crown Princess Masako attend kindergarten picnic
Post by: hippie_cyndi on May 16, 2007, 07:31:29 PM
I concur.....her mom doesn't look like a woman in her 40s either.
Title: Re: Princess Aiko and Crown Princess Masako attend kindergarten picnic
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 19, 2007, 02:57:58 PM
She looks quite formal for someone going to a school picnic. Come to think of it, the Japanese are unusually formal so I suppose I should not be surprised.
Title: Re: Princess Aiko and Crown Princess Masako attend kindergarten picnic
Post by: Lila the Flirt on May 19, 2007, 03:29:29 PM
CP Masako looks better and better each day :thumbsup: And yes, Princess Aiko is so cute  :happy:
Title: Japan's emperor and empress leave for Europe trip
Post by: Nighthawk on May 21, 2007, 04:36:57 PM
DM~Japan's emperor and empress leave for Europe trip (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=456649&in_page_id=1811)

Title: Re: Japan's emperor and empress leave for Europe trip
Post by: Nighthawk on May 21, 2007, 11:49:05 PM
links to pictures
http://new2.isifa.com/reportage_ed.php?repid=146527
http://picture.belga.be/cgi-bin/belgapict/belgapicture.sh?ACTIE=DETAIL&FILE=/galleries/223721.html
Title: Re: Japan's emperor and empress leave for Europe trip
Post by: sara19810 on May 22, 2007, 12:02:23 AM
im sure Emperor and Empress would meet British Royals sometimes

Title: Re: Japan's emperor and empress leave for Europe trip
Post by: truly_thata on May 22, 2007, 01:56:17 AM
i read that they have bad time with all war veteran, because the World War 2 problem
Title: Re: Japan's emperor and empress leave for Europe trip
Post by: truly_thata on May 22, 2007, 02:43:45 AM
LA EMPERATRIZ DE JAPÓN RECONOCE QUE SU VIDA HA ESTADO MARCADA POR LA TRISTEZA Y LA DEPRESIÓN (http://www.hola.com/casasreales/2007/05/21/emperadores-suecia/)
Title: Linneanum State Visit to Sweden
Post by: Margherita on May 23, 2007, 10:02:23 PM
Pics from PPE Agency (http://www.ppe-agency.com/)

Japanese emperor fetes Linnaeus tricentenary in Sweden- The Local (http://www.thelocal.se/7389/20070523/)

QuoteJapanese Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko are the guests of honour Wednesday at festivities in Sweden marking the 300th birthday of Swedish botanist Carolus Linnaeus, who invented the current system of classifying organisms.
Title: Re: Linneanum State Visit to Sweden
Post by: Jenee on May 24, 2007, 05:24:37 AM
The Local: Japanese imperial couple delve into the natural sciences (http://www.thelocal.se/7383/20070522/)

QuoteJapanese Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko delved into the natural sciences during a visit Tuesday to Stockholm, touring botanical gardens, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences and a natural history museum.




EUX: Japanese royals attend Linnaeus celebrations (http://www.eux.tv/article.aspx?articleId=8569)

QuoteUppsala, Sweden (dpa) - Japanese Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko were guests of honour Wednesday as Sweden celebrated the 300th anniversary of the birth of Swedish scientist Carl Linnaeus.




Monsters and Critics: Japanese royal couple visit Stockholm botanic garden (http://news.monstersandcritics.com/asiapacific/news/article_1307669.php/Japanese_royal_couple_visit_Stockholm_botanic_garden)

QuoteStockholm - Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia toured the Bergius Botanic Garden on the outskirts of Stockholm Tuesday with visiting Japanese Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko.
Title: Re: Linneanum State Visit to Sweden
Post by: truly_thata on May 24, 2007, 07:58:57 AM
thanks for link :daisy:
Title: Re: Linneanum State Visit to Sweden
Post by: Nighthawk on May 24, 2007, 10:43:07 AM
http://isifa.com/reportage_ed.php?repid=147483
http://isifa.com/reportage_ed.php?repid=147480
Title: Re: Linneanum State Visit to Sweden
Post by: Siempre Vuelva on May 25, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
http://www.hola.com/galeria-de-imagenes.html?imagen=/casasreales/2007/05/24/emperadores-suecia/imgs/suecia-2a.jpg&subseccion=japon
Title: Re: Princess Aiko and Crown Princess Masako attend kindergarten picnic
Post by: QuJing on May 26, 2007, 08:37:01 AM
Princess Aiko is gorgeous and her mum is looking good too!!!  Good 2c CP Masako smiling.
Title: Re: Princess Aiko and Crown Princess Masako attend kindergarten picnic
Post by: Miryoku on May 26, 2007, 06:11:59 PM
Very cute!  Good to see them looking so happy :)
Title: Emperor and Empress of Japan visit Douglas House
Post by: karla64 on May 29, 2007, 11:57:26 AM
http://new2.isifa.com/reportage_ed.php?repid=148899
Title: Queen hosts Palace dinner for Emperor and Empress of Japan
Post by: Miryoku on May 31, 2007, 05:14:52 AM
Queen hosts Palace dinner for Emperor and Empress of Japan (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/05/30/akihito-queen-uk/)

QuoteThe royal houses from the East and the West met this week to share a rare evening together when the Queen welcomed the Emperor and Empress of Japan to Buckingham Palace. The couple, who are on a three-day trip to Britain, joined the monarch, Prince Philip, and 16 other guests for an intimate dinner.

Good to see Empress Michiko up and about and in good spirits.
Title: Re: Queen hosts Palace dinner for Emperor and Empress of Japan
Post by: Jenee on June 01, 2007, 02:23:01 AM
Photo Slideshow (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Slideshow/slideshowContentFrameFragXL.jhtml;jsessionid4ZT4X4JKQ4CMVQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/05/30/japan/japanpix.xml&site=News)
Title: Japan's crown prince to remove polyp in surgery next week
Post by: Jenee on June 02, 2007, 05:30:13 AM
International Herald Tribune (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/31/asia/AS-GEN-Japan-Crown-Prince.php)

QuoteJapan's Crown Prince Naruhito will undergo surgery to remove a benign growth in his small intestine at a Tokyo hospital next week, palace officials said Thursday.

I wish him a speedy recovery!!
Title: Re: Japan's crown prince to remove polyp in surgery next week
Post by: hippie_cyndi on June 02, 2007, 05:30:45 AM
same here!
Title: Re: Japan's crown prince to remove polyp in surgery next week
Post by: Jenee on June 06, 2007, 11:43:46 PM
International Herald Tribune - Japan's crown prince enters hospital for surgery to remove polyp (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/05/asia/AS-GEN-Japan-Crown-Prince.php)

QuoteJapanese Crown Prince Naruhito entered a Tokyo hospital on Tuesday for surgery to remove a benign growth in his small intestine, a palace spokesman said.
Title: Prince Naruhito thanks hospital staff as he heads home
Post by: Siempre Vuelva on June 12, 2007, 07:50:47 PM
Prince Naruhito thanks hospital staff as he heads home  :happy:

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/06/12/naruhito-masako/

QuoteIt must have come as a relief to the people of Japan to see their future Emperor looking fit and healthy as he left hospital this week following a successful operation. Crown Prince Naruhito had undergone surgery last Wednesday after a routine check had revealed a benign lump in the intestine.
Title: Japan’s Crown Prince Naruhito to visit Mongolia in July
Post by: Jenee on June 19, 2007, 04:54:50 AM
Mongolia Web (http://www.mongolia-web.com/content/view/1097/2/)

To mark the 35th anniversary of diplomatic ties, Japan's Crown Prince Naruhito will visit Mongolia in July.
Title: Japan's emperor honors a longtime Fort Worth woman
Post by: Jenee on June 21, 2007, 03:34:49 AM
Star Telegram (http://www.star-telegram.com/metro_news/story/141888.html)

QuoteElaine Yoko Yamagata looked serene Friday evening as former Fort Worth Mayor Kenneth Barr lauded her accomplishments and Yoshihiko Kamo, the consul general of Japan, presented her with the Order of the Rising Sun, Silver Rays, conferred by the emperor.
Title: Prince Tomohito to be hospitalized for treatment of alcohol dependency
Post by: Jenee on June 23, 2007, 03:49:15 AM
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20070622p2a00m0na013000c.html

QuotePrince Tomohito, a cousin of Emperor Akihito, will receive treatment for alcohol dependency at the Imperial Household Agency Hospital for at least one month, officials said on Friday.


:(
Title: Prince's solo foreign trip renews speculation about stressed wife
Post by: Jenee on July 07, 2007, 11:28:00 PM
Independent (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article2742771.ece)

QuotePrince Naruhito of Japan has announced that he will be travelling abroad again without his wife Princess Masako, who is recovering from a stress-induced mental illness.
Title: Olympic welcome awaits Emperor
Post by: Jenee on July 10, 2007, 10:57:54 PM
Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070710b1.html)

QuoteA senior official of the Beijing Organizing Committee for the 2008 Summer Olympic Games indicated hope Monday that Emperor Akihito will attend the opening ceremony.

"The committee will give a hearty welcome to the Emperor" if he is invited as a guest of honor by the Chinese government and accepts the invitation, Jiang Xiaoyu, executive vice president of the committee, told Japanese reporters in Beijing.


China did say that if they won the bid they'd invite the Emperor. Its good to see they are making good on that promise!


Edit: I found the other thread, so I just merged them :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Prince's solo foreign trip renews speculation about stressed wife
Post by: Countessa on July 15, 2007, 03:46:44 PM
I wonder if she's just not allowed to travel by the Imperial Household Agency (IHA)? She's only been on four foreign trips in her 14 year marriage. If she is allowed to travel, I can't understand why she wouldn't do so as much as possible. What is going to happen when Naruhito becomes Emperor and she Empress? She really needs to get it together before that time unless the evil IHA has other plans for her.
Title: Re: Prince's solo foreign trip renews speculation about stressed wife
Post by: hippie_cyndi on July 16, 2007, 12:08:52 AM
I believe Naruhito have spoken 2 the media recently and stated his wife would not do any foreign trips with him....at lease officially until next yr.......I think the AH are the worse royal courtier in the world :notamused:
Title: Re: Prince's solo foreign trip renews speculation about stressed wife
Post by: Miryoku on July 16, 2007, 04:14:03 PM
That situation is so sad all around...she was such a vibrant and independent woman before she entered the Imperial Royal Household.  Her mother-in-law experienced the same type of symptoms (stress-related illness, a period of time when she was unable to talk for months, etc.) and she still feels the effects today.  Sadly, I think that Masako will never be able to fully work through this - the damage has already been done.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Miryoku on July 16, 2007, 04:15:04 PM
This very good news  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Prince Tomohito to be hospitalized for treatment of alcohol dependency
Post by: Miryoku on July 16, 2007, 04:15:30 PM
I'm glad that he is getting some help for his problem.
Title: Re: Beijing planning to ask Japan's crown prince to Olympics
Post by: Malachite on July 26, 2007, 02:05:39 AM
It is good that grudging is light in these times.
Title: 'Princess Masako' translation revised here in the works
Post by: hippie_cyndi on August 06, 2007, 03:42:15 AM
Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070803b2.html)

QuoteTokyo-based Daisan-Shokan said Thursday it will publish early next month a Japanese translation of a controversial book on the life of Crown Princess Masako written by an Australian journalist.

Kodansha Ltd. was initially planning to publish the translation of "Princess Masako," which is subtitled "Prisoner of the Chrysanthemum Throne," but backed out after the Japanese government said the book contains groundless claims.

AHA is such an evil RH!
Title: Re: 'Princess Masako' translation revised here in the works
Post by: heather on August 08, 2007, 04:09:25 AM
  My heart goes out to CPM and her mother in law, and all women who are trapped by such a system.
Title: Crown Prince and Princess arrive at Nasushiobara Station
Post by: Jayne on August 20, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
Crown Prince and Princess arrive at Nasushiobara Station

QuoteJapanese Crown Prince Naruhito (R), Princess Masako (L) share a light moment with their daughter Princess Aiko (C)
upon their arrival at Nasushiobara Station, north of Tokyo, 17 August 2007. The royal family is off to spend their
summer vacation at a highland imperial villa.

http://i12.tinypic.com/4kcgaoh.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/68k060l.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/4tf6y2t.jpg
Title: Re: Crown Prince and Princess arrive at Nasushiobara Station
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 20, 2007, 09:34:09 PM
Quotehttp://i11.tinypic.com/68k060l.jpg

Aiko looks utterly adorable.
Title: Australian author threatened over Japan royals book
Post by: karla64 on August 21, 2007, 02:41:04 PM
I am not sure which one I should put here or other news or books..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070821/en_nm/japan_princess_author_dc
Title: Re: Australian author threatened over Japan royals book
Post by: Cassidy on August 25, 2007, 03:11:18 PM
It's good he's able to publish it in Japan. I read it and thought it was quite sad.
Title: Cheerful Birthday boy for Hisahito is Japan's royal star
Post by: karla64 on September 06, 2007, 01:27:28 PM
Prince Hisahito is one year old now.... Happy Birthday..

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/09/06/prince-hisahito-japa/
Title: Re: Cheerful Birthday boy for Hisahito is Japan's royal star
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 07, 2007, 02:18:31 AM
He seems like he has a cheerful disposition.
Title: Re: Cheerful Birthday boy for Hisahito is Japan's royal star
Post by: Margherita on September 07, 2007, 09:41:07 AM
First birthday for Japan's prince ~ BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6981311.stm)
Title: Re: Cheerful Birthday boy for Hisahito is Japan's royal star
Post by: princessealiénor on September 08, 2007, 02:46:35 AM
http://www.hola.com/casasreales/2007/09/06/principe-hisahito/ :)
Title: Japan's Princess Aiko makes parent proud at school event
Post by: karla64 on October 09, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
Cute young girl..

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2007/10/09/princess-aiko/
Title: Re: Japan's Princess Aiko makes parent proud at school event
Post by: Dreama on October 09, 2007, 07:10:07 PM
Nice to see her Mum smile  :hug:
Title: Re: Japan's Princess Aiko makes parent proud at school event
Post by: Inge Jones on October 09, 2007, 07:12:48 PM
But my goodness isn't Mum thin?  Her knees look like elbows.
Title: Re: Japan's Princess Aiko makes parent proud at school event
Post by: Lila the Flirt on October 10, 2007, 05:21:25 AM
^You'd be thin too if you have the pressure she's got.

It's nice to see Masako smiling again.
Title: Re: Japan's Princess Aiko makes parent proud at school event
Post by: Elisevonblah on October 10, 2007, 06:56:04 AM
I feel terribly for Masako and Aiko; Masako because she gave up so much to live this stifled life and Aiko because she will grow-up thinking that she wasn't good enough to inherit the throne because of her gender, which is, pardon my French, b.s. I don't care if it is the tradition in Japan, or elsewhere, I think it is pure c*%p that in the 21st century there are places and positions a woman is still considered to be second to a man. And I am not singling out Japan here, I'm talking about all the countries where male children take precedence over female children in line to the throne. I love that Sweden and Norway allow the first child, regardless of gender, to be the heir, none of this "a girl is fine as long as there isn't a boy to do it!".
Title: Re: Japan's Princess Aiko makes parent proud at school event
Post by: Inge Jones on October 10, 2007, 07:48:46 AM
Yes I think they should have gone ahead to change the succession laws even though there is a male cousin now.  There is only the one, and she's really too old to have more now.  Something could still happen to him.
Title: Japan's Empress prays for recovery of stressed Crown Princess
Post by: Jenee on October 22, 2007, 01:37:04 AM
Yahoo! (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071020/en_afp/japanroyalsempresspeople;_ylt=A0WTcUu04RpH2FgB8xhxFb8C)

There is a beautiful picture of Empress Michiko in this article :)
Title: Re: Japan's Empress prays for recovery of stressed Crown Princess
Post by: MEW on October 22, 2007, 01:41:01 AM
She is so elegant...thank you.
Title: Japanese Crown Prince Named UN Official
Post by: truly_thata on November 02, 2007, 04:46:05 AM
Japanese Crown Prince Named UN Official (http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B3730DC8B-D1FE-47D3-8B2C-0FE05D4ADF06%7D&language=EN)

UN chief appoints Japan's crown prince to advisory board on water and sanitation (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/01/news/UN-GEN-UN-Japan-Prince.php)
Title: Re: Japanese Crown Prince Named UN Official
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 02, 2007, 02:49:21 PM
What I really admire about the Japanese Royal Family is that they are substantial, intellectual people who take their roles and duties seriously. 
Title: Princess Masako supports the UNU University
Post by: hippie_cyndi on January 11, 2008, 10:42:36 PM
Spiegel International (http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,527803,00.html)

QuoteJapan's Princess Masako is an avid supporter of the UNU. Although Osterwalder has declined to comment on rumors that Masako has her own office at the university's headquarters, it is clear that the world's oldest surviving ruling dynasty is deeply involved.

Title: Re: Japanese princess turn 5 with future in the balance
Post by: HM Queen Cheryl on January 13, 2008, 05:38:16 PM
If they see Queen Elizabeth as a good example then they'd know they'd be in good hands with her.
:Jen:
Title: Re: Japanese princess turn 5 with future in the balance
Post by: Elisevonblah on January 13, 2008, 05:54:27 PM
I adore Aiko and hope she becomes Empress one day. It is the right thing to have happen.
Title: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Margherita on February 05, 2008, 12:03:26 PM
'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing ~ Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/sick-princess-accused-of-slacking-ndash-and-scoffing-778037.html)

QuoteFour years after Princess Masako of Japan withdrew from a public role citing a mysterious illness, the tabloid press is beginning to wonder aloud: is the reclusive royal slacking at taxpayers' expense?

Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 05, 2008, 02:28:05 PM
When oh when oh when are the Japanese going to stop tearing their Crown Princess to shreds? They've been quite lucky in terms of their future Empress, a lot of the other European Crown Princes haven't chosen their consorts as well as Naruhito has. Perhaps if the Imperial Household Agency didn't insist on holding her in an iron fist, perhaps she wouldn't be so ill.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Lila the Flirt on February 05, 2008, 03:49:12 PM
 :notamused:
Title: Tabloids turn against the Crown Princess Masako
Post by: hippie_cyndi on February 05, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3307711.ece)

QuoteThey are grainy, indistinct photographs, but for a Japan on the edge of recession they are more than enough: a pricey Mexican dinner, a plate of rare black truffles and a bowl of shark-fin soup have unleashed an unprecedented media broadside against the future Empress of Japan.

what I find ironic is the media cruel collaborative effort 2 further demonize Princess Masako......instead of acknowledging and critiquing the fact the Imperial House control her public schedule......heck they even try to overshadow her husband's hardwork.

....its the IH who are not allowing Masako to perform much of a public work.......its the shadowy courtier who decide and publish who does what and when.......and now the media wants her locked up in the palace to show she's clinically depressed :notamused:
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: serene grace on February 05, 2008, 09:50:54 PM
Why has the Japanese press been so hard on this woman, from day one. She looked so sad a few years ago, I was worried about her emotional health, I think it's good if she's going out with friends now. She can't win.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Countessa on February 05, 2008, 10:51:53 PM
She can always leave her husband. Seriously, I think the self-pitying Masako needs to get over herself. Her sister-in-law has given birth to the heir (making Princess M irrelevant), so this "I'm too depressed to do any work" is getting old.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Elisevonblah on February 05, 2008, 11:07:56 PM
That's not really fair. First, I am not sure that divorce is possible in the Japanese Imperial family. If she were to leave her husband you can bet that would be the last she would see of her daughter. I don't know if you have children Countessa but could you leave them? Masako is still relevant, she is the future Empress no matter what the sex of her or her sister in law's child. I can't imagine being deemed a failure becasue you produced a child of the wrong sex. Plus, anyone with any knowledge of reproduction knows that the sex of the child is determined by the man's sperm, not the woman's egg, so why is Masako considered the failure by Japanese society and not her husband? And if I may be so bold, this

QuoteI think the self-pitying Masako needs to get over herself. this "I'm too depressed to do any work" is getting old.

smacks of someone who has no personal experience of clinical depression. Correct me if I am wrong because I am not trying to be rude of offensive. Clinical depression isn't something you just wake up one day and decide to get over. She's sick. You wouldn't tell someone with cancer to get over it would you? No, of course not but because clinical depression is something that can't be seen or touched by others, people dismiss it and call those suffering from it "self pitying". She needs counseling and probably medication, not to be criticized relentlessly in the press for every little thing.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Countessa on February 05, 2008, 11:23:23 PM
I never said Masako was a failure because she didn't produce a son. The bottom line is that she didn't and Kiko did thus taking the pressure off the CPss and imo making her less relevant since she will not be the mother of the future Emperor. I know this sounds cruel but the fact is that she has only been able to produce 1 child (of any sex) and let's face it, that's the job of a princess--to produce heirs, preferably male heirs. But hey, it could be the fault of the CP himself as the reason they only have 1 child. But whatever, I think it's time the future Empress of Japan resumes her Imperial duties and stop whining. Again, I know this sounds cruel but she is a member of an ancient royal family. She needs to pull herself together. Jmo.

Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Elisevonblah on February 05, 2008, 11:28:41 PM
QuoteI never said Masako was a failure because she didn't produce a son.

Sorry, I didn't mean that you said that. I was referring to the press which has.

QuoteShe needs to pull herself together.

And like I said, she can't just  "pull herself together", she's sick. She has an illness. She needs treatment. The very fact that sick is in quotations in the title of this thread and of that article signifies the type of prejudice against people with clinical depression and other mental illnesses. No one would put quotations around the word sick if she had leukemia or parkinsons.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Countessa on February 06, 2008, 12:33:20 AM
She may well be depressed but it just shows that another commoner marrying into the royal fold can't handle it and should have never been considered marriage material for the CP of Japan.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Elisevonblah on February 06, 2008, 12:42:03 AM
Anyone, no matter their background, is susceptible to depression. I imagine that if a non-commoner were in her position they might have faced a similar fate. It has nothing to do with her being a commoner, it has to do with her not receiving respect and support from the press, the IH, and the conservative factions of the public. She was once an up and comer  in the diplomatic world but now is considered to be a failure, irrelevant and unimportant. She gave up a great deal to serve Japan as CP and, one day, Empress and has been given nothing but grief and unhappiness.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Countessa on February 06, 2008, 12:50:43 AM
So you don't think Masako has been in any way uncooperatative? Wouldn't that mean she is perfect? I don't think she's perfect and believe that some of her problems are due to her own frustrations in not getting pregnant until finally with Aiko, and not having the international role as a diplomat for Japan that she wished for as CPss. But a CPss is not going to be free to do much. Everything she says and does is controlled and will be scrutinized. The IHA are not nice guys but she should have known what she was getting herself into. And her first and only role was to produce heirs for the crown. That's just the way it is. And yes, I do think that many of her problems are because she is a commoner. She can't hack the royal life, period. Her illness proves that.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Elisevonblah on February 06, 2008, 01:21:22 AM
Of course she is not perfect, she is human. She is a well educated woman who has been rendered useless and a failure. Wanting to use ones talents and not be viewed as a breeder is certainly not, imo, being uncooperative. Perhaps Masako should have known better than to believe that she would be valued and respected by the IHA but something made her give up her career to marry the CP.  What was it? Love? Maybe. I don't think that Masako could have been completely aware of what awaited her as CPss, no one would choose this. The only thing that her illness proves is that the IHA is a misogynistic entity bent on destroying those members of the family that don't live up to their lofty expectations. No one could withstand the abuse the IHA has thrown at her. They beat down fromer CP/Empress Michiko until she stopped talking for days, weeks and months on end; and then they battered down Masako, until her whole body broke down on her and she almost lost her mind. How exactly are titled people better suited to with stand this kind of abuse?
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Elisevonblah on February 06, 2008, 01:45:07 AM
Sorry for the double post but I wanted to point out that Princess Kiko, the wife of the CP's brother, was a commoner as well, only the second commoner to marrying into the Imperial family after the current Empress, and yet she has not suffered the abuse that the IHA and press have leveled at Masako. Is it because she is not married to the heir? Is it because she didn't bring shame on the Imperial house by being unable to produce a boy? Obviously a western educated commoner wife can work even in this traditional monarchy.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Countessa on February 06, 2008, 03:43:13 AM
Princess Kiko only recently had a baby boy. For fifteen years she was the mother of two daughters. She didn't crack up. Yes, there is more pressure on Masako and I feel sorry for her but I still believe she was unsuitable to marry CP Naruhito in the first place. I feel she lacks the inner strength to withstand the pressure of royal life in general and that family in particular.

Also, I'm not against any and all commoners marrying royals but she is yet another example of one who simply can't be transported into another world from the one she was born and raised in. I just don't buy into the notion that simply because someone is "common" that they have the common touch, or that they will usher in modernity to these ancient institutions. Truth be told, it is the ancient and traditional nature of the monarchy that keeps them in (diminished) power along with the modern openness.

I like several CP's who were not born royal or aristocratic. Maxima and Mary seem to be holding up the best. No public meltdowns, nervous breakdowns, whispers of anorexia, etc. And as cruel as it sounds, they have delivered at least an heir and a spare which is the most important part of their job.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Elisevonblah on February 06, 2008, 05:18:38 AM
QuoteI just don't buy into the notion that simply because someone is "common" that they have the common touch, or that they will usher in modernity to these ancient institutions.

Nor do I, however I don't believe that suitability can be determined by who your family is. Perhaps Masako was unsuitable in that she was too modern for such a tradtional institution. There are rumblings that she didn't want to marry Naruhito when he proposed but he made it quite clear that he would marry no one but her, so the IHA stepped in and "convinced" Masako to go ahead with the marriage.

Maxima and Mary have the good fortune to live in countries that accept female heirs and, as far I know, the courts in these countries are not as cut throat and merciless as the IHA is reputed to be. Denmark and the Netherlands are much more modernized monarchies and nations than Japan. Mary and Maxima have been given a certain amount of independence as CPs, an independence that has been denied to Masako.  In Japan the sense of duty, tradition, honour, etc is almost stifling in some cases. I would compare Masako's position more with Letizia's except, again, Letzia's daughters have not been deemed "unsuitable as heirs" do to their sex and as such, Letizia has not been deemed a failure by the Spanish court or press.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Anyasha on February 06, 2008, 06:18:21 AM
Quote from: Countessa on February 05, 2008, 10:51:53 PM
Seriously, I think the self-pitying Masako needs to get over herself. Her sister-in-law has given birth to the heir (making Princess M irrelevant), so this "I'm too depressed to do any work" is getting old.

I wasn't going to say anything for fear of having the unpopular opinion, but I will definitely agree with you!
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Lila the Flirt on February 06, 2008, 06:28:06 AM
Quote from: Countessa on February 05, 2008, 10:51:53 PM
She can always leave her husband.

That will never happen. And besides, regardless of her inability to bear more children, she loves her husband and he loves her. The pressure put on the Crown Princess to produce a male heir is unsurmountable. The Japanese still hold their ancient traditions in reverence and sad to say, I feel do not hold females in high regard. Some could be right, she never would have made a suitable partner for the Crown Prince - she was too independent and self-sufficient for the Imperial Family. I say was because she was such a person but that person has slowly but surely vanished. But then again, if the Crown Prince himself does not feel his wife has failed him, who are we to judge?
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: sambarumba on February 06, 2008, 08:50:17 AM
have they met Britain's future princess?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: hippie_cyndi on February 07, 2008, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: Countessa on February 05, 2008, 11:23:23 PM
I think it's time the future Empress of Japan resumes her Imperial duties and stop whining. Again, I know this sounds cruel but she is a member of an ancient royal family. She needs to pull herself together. Jmo.

....I would agree with you......but what many people not privy to the working machine of the IH do not know.......its NOT up to Masako to get on with her royal schedule........its up to the IH to allow her and her husband to do so......in fact its the strict and shadowy IH who decide for each royal family member.....something no other modern monarchy have to undergo.........she can't even leave the country without their permission......so I ask you.....how can she honestly do much of a public work as a crown princess?
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Elisevonblah on February 07, 2008, 07:35:00 PM
Quoteshe can't even leave the country without their permission......so I ask you.....how can she honestly do much of a public work as a crown princess?

I believe that the IHA have actually prevented her from accompanying her husband on some up coming  over seas trips. They've relegated her to being unimportant because she committed the crime of giving birth to a daughter. Masako's position is very much like Letizia's, as I mentioned before. People criticized Letizia for not doing solo engagements, when the decision to do so is not up to her, and for feeling ill during her pregnancy. 
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: hippie_cyndi on February 07, 2008, 07:49:02 PM
I agree.....I think if these women were not fighters or strong willed......they wouldn't live in practical palace prison.....more so with Masako.
Title: Re: 'Sick' princess accused of slacking – and scoffing
Post by: Countessa on February 07, 2008, 11:12:31 PM
I do think the IHA has prevented her from traveling abroad on trips with her husband and a whole host of other atrocities but why doesn't someone in the family stand up? Why aren't some of these abusive people fired? Why does Naruhito let this happen to his wife? He's only spoken up once and then apologized. They would have full support of the Japanese people but they have to show some strength of character or else the public backs away thinking this is okay. The press may now be turning on Masako. How long before the public follow? Like I said, she needs to pull herself together and fight. I just think she has crumbled and so I question how strong she is/was. Imo, not strong enough to be the crown princess of Japan much less the future Empress.
Title: Japan prince urged to visit parents more
Post by: Jenee on February 14, 2008, 05:23:25 PM
Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/14/wprince114.xml)

QuoteJapan's Crown Prince Naruhito should visit his parents more often, palace officials have said in a rare public signal that all is not well in the imperial household.


I find it very odd that they would comment on something like that.
Title: Re: Japan prince urged to visit parents more
Post by: dizzylizzy13 on February 14, 2008, 05:59:45 PM
Sheesh, there must be something in the water these days ... so many estrangements. Sad  :cry:

The DT is fairly reliable I believe  :shrug: so if that's coming from the IHA it does sound as if there's something wrong. Maybe Naruhito and Masako felt their daughter was rejected in favor of the new boy ... or maybe his parents have criticized her for not working again, and he has sided with her ...

Title: Re: Japan prince urged to visit parents more
Post by: Jenee on February 15, 2008, 05:20:12 PM
Probably a bit of both DL
Title: Japan protests over princess book
Post by: Jenee on February 15, 2008, 05:21:04 PM
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6360401.stm)

QuoteThe Japanese government said Ben Hills' book contains groundless claims and insults the royal family, and wants an apology and corrections.

Title: Re: Japan prince urged to visit parents more
Post by: Countessa on February 15, 2008, 11:40:57 PM
It's time for N&M to start fighting back. This is the perfect opportunity to sack that arrogant palace official for publicly smacking him. Who does the IHA think they are? Masako and her husband need to start strategizing. I just can't believe they continue to allow this abuse. Are they just so weak and helpless? What a shame the Japanese Imperial family is.
Title: Re: Japan prince urged to visit parents more
Post by: anikas on February 16, 2008, 12:53:18 AM
It's sad :shrug:
Title: Re: Japan prince urged to visit parents more
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 16, 2008, 03:38:07 PM
QuoteAre they just so weak and helpless?

It could be a condition known as "Learned Helplessness." It's when a person is controlled for so long they forget how to fend for themselves and think for themselves to an extent that they are unable to take initiative in anything.
Title: Re: Japan prince urged to visit parents more
Post by: dizzylizzy13 on March 03, 2008, 04:22:56 PM
I don't understand how anyone would allowed themselves to be controlled like that ... maybe they are just puppets of the government and fear the consequences of a revolt against the IHA. :shrug:
Title: Naruhito and Masako watch daughter Aiko graduate kindergarten
Post by: Cassidy on March 18, 2008, 04:40:16 PM
Naruhito and Masako watch daughter Aiko graduate kindergarten ~ Hello (http://www.hellomagazine.com//royalty/2008/03/18/aiko-kindergarten/)

Little Aiko is so pretty  :sigh:
Title: Re: Naruhito and Masako watch daughter Aiko graduate kindergarten
Post by: anikas on March 18, 2008, 10:28:47 PM
She's really a cute girl  :happy: Nice to see them together and happy :)
Title: Family of crown prince meets emperor, empress
Post by: Jenee on April 06, 2008, 06:19:50 PM
Japan Today (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/family-of-crown-prince-meets-emperor-empress)

QuoteCrown Prince Naruhito, Crown Princess Masako and their daughter Princess Aiko visited the Imperial Palace on Sunday to meet Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko. The visit came just after the family of the crown prince returned to Tokyo on Wednesday from a skiing trip to Nagano Prefecture. The family also made a visit to the Imperial Palace on March 26.


Call me crazy, but I think they've met before :fool:
Title: Re: Family of crown prince meets emperor, empress
Post by: Lila the Flirt on April 06, 2008, 06:21:32 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Family of crown prince meets emperor, empress
Post by: Orchid on May 14, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
 :lol:
Title: Oxford visit for Japanese royals
Post by: Jenee on May 28, 2008, 02:46:09 PM
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/oxfordshire/6697947.stm)

The Emperor and Empress of Japan have arrived in Oxfordshire as part of their tour of the UK.
Title: Naruhito to attend coronation in Tonga
Post by: Jenee on June 04, 2008, 11:08:28 PM
Naruhito to attend coronation in Tonga (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/06/naruhito-to-att.html)

QuoteCrown Prince Naruhito of Japan will attend the coronation of the King of Tonga on August 1, 2008, the Japanese news agency Kyodo reported. The news has been confirmed in Tonga.
Title: 50th meeting of the Japanese Society of Child Neurology etc...
Post by: Jenee on June 07, 2008, 03:58:42 PM
Address by His Imperial Highness The Crown Prince  (http://www.kunaicho.go.jp/address/address-crownprince-2008-5.html)
Title: Crown Prince Naruhito in Brazil - all stories here
Post by: Jenee on June 17, 2008, 01:39:27 PM
Crown Prince Naruhito on his way to Brazil (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/06/crown-prince-na.html)
Quote
Japan's crown prince Naruhito left Monday on a trip to Brazil without his wife, Princess Masako, who was deemed too weak to make the voyage. Naruhito departed Tokyo's Haneda airport on a government plane, Imperial Household spokesman Minoru Osawa said.
Title: Re: Crown Prince Naruhito in Brazil - all stories here
Post by: Jenee on June 20, 2008, 12:37:06 PM
AFP (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iYF7B_ViX9FLyC_Fyi8z3jW8xqUg)

QuoteJapanese Crown Prince Naruhito bent protocol a little as he started a visit to Sao Paulo on Thursday for celebrations marking 100 years of Japanese immigration to Brazil.

The heir to the Chrysanthemum Throne shook hands with some members of the crowd gathered in the city's main park to watch him lay a wreath at a memorial to the first Japanese who arrived in this South American nation.

The gesture was unsual for a member of Japan's imperial family, who generally keep their distance from commoners. A hefty escort acts as a buffer.


Baby steps, Naruhito!  Someone has to bring the Japanese into the 21st century!
Title: Re: Crown Prince Naruhito in Brazil - all stories here
Post by: Jenee on June 20, 2008, 12:39:38 PM
Brazilian President calls for a closer relationship with Japan (http://www.cctv.com/english/20080619/104991.shtml)
IHT:  Japan's crown prince departs for Brazil trip without ailing princess (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/16/asia/AS-GEN-Japan-Crown-Prince.php)
Title: Re: Crown Prince Naruhito in Brazil - all stories here
Post by: Orchid on June 22, 2008, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: Jenee on June 20, 2008, 12:37:06 PM
Baby steps, Naruhito!  Someone has to bring the Japanese into the 21st century!

Here Here!!
Title: Japan's Crown Prince Naruhito arrives in L.A.
Post by: Jenee on June 27, 2008, 05:09:43 PM
QuoteJapan's Crown Prince Naruhito, the 48-year-old heir to the Chrysanthemum Throne, the world's oldest monarchy, arrived in L.A. today for a two-day visit.

LA Times (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/06/230-prince-of-j.html)


It looks like Masako is absent from this visit as well :(
Title: Emperor Akihito's Canada visit
Post by: Jenee on July 12, 2008, 12:52:24 PM
M&C (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/royalwatch/news/article_1416380.php/Emperor_Akihitos_Canada_visit)

QuoteJapan's Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko will visit Canada next year.

The couple's visit will coincide with the 80th anniversary of the start of formal diplomatic relations between Canada and Japan.
Title: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Jenee on July 12, 2008, 12:54:39 PM
Naruhito asks understanding for Masako (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/07/naruhito-asks-u.html)

QuoteJapan's Crown Prince Naruhito sought public understanding Friday for his ailing wife, Crown Princess Masako, who is suffering from a stress-induced form of depression that has kept her from most of her official duties for several years.


I'll be honest- I've been a supporter of Masako for many years now, but even my sympathy is waining. Yes, depression is an illness, but there comes a point in time where you simply have to get over it, be it with counseling, medication, or sheer will!
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Jenee on July 12, 2008, 12:55:02 PM
AFP Google (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hzaXOMskZjoCG_ZEsDCF4W0zWorg)
Title: Japan's crown prince to attend Tonga coronation
Post by: Jenee on July 12, 2008, 12:58:40 PM
Radio Australia (http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/news/stories/200807/s2301726.htm?tab=asia)

QuoteIt's been confirmed that Japan's Crown Prince Naru-hito will visit Tonga later this month for the coronation of King George Tupou V.
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 12, 2008, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Jenee on July 12, 2008, 12:54:39 PM
Naruhito asks understanding for Masako (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/07/naruhito-asks-u.html)


I'll be honest- I've been a supporter of Masako for many years now, but even my sympathy is waining. Yes, depression is an illness, but there comes a point in time where you simply have to get over it, be it with counseling, medication, or sheer will!

Frankly I think the Court needs to give her some breathing space and allow her to go on a small vacation away from the pressure of the courtiers. What are they doing to her?

If Masako can't handle it, maybe a discreet divorce would be a good idea and she could have visitation rights to Aiko. On the other hand, at some point Masako has to take charge of her mental health.
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Jenee on July 12, 2008, 11:32:06 PM
I agree Kuei Fei.


Edit: CP defends ailing wife (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/52054/Crown-prince-defends-ailing-wife)
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 15, 2008, 08:53:33 PM
Admittedly I think Empress Michiko had it harder, being the first commoner, but somehow she managed to pull through. There has to be something unique in Masako's case that she isn't pulling together if only for the sake of her daughter.

At this point I think the Court should send Masako somewhere to get more intensive help and breathing space. If she can't get it together though, Masako should be discreetly divorced and given substantial custody and visitation rights.

The Naruhito should get remarried after a decent interval to someone younger and maybe a member of the Japanese aristocracy. Although titles were formally abolished, I'm sure they still have some secret form of social stratification.
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Cassidy on July 15, 2008, 10:17:19 PM
But can they divorce?
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 16, 2008, 01:16:36 PM
That's actually a good question.
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Windsor on July 16, 2008, 03:14:40 PM
Yes, they can!
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Jenee on July 16, 2008, 09:50:25 PM
^I knew you'd know! xD

Crown Princess Masako is Japan's Sad Princess (http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1727)

Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 17, 2008, 01:54:38 PM
I don't know how the Royal Family is able to handle this. It's times like these when I think that royalty should stick with other royalty and aristocrats. They are familiar with the lifestyle and habits and are prepared for what is expected.
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Jenee on July 18, 2008, 01:26:19 AM
In a way, I agree with that. Although, obviously it isn't something anyone can enforce...

Naruhito once again alone on foreign trip (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/07/naruhito-once-a.html)
Title: Re: Naruhito asks understanding for Masako
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 18, 2008, 02:38:39 PM
Well, true. These days I think there's a lot of subtle pressure for royals to date and marry commoners.

It's reverse snobbery if you ask me.
Title: Naruhito in Spain
Post by: Jenee on July 18, 2008, 03:10:25 PM
He is traveling a lot lately - I wonder if it is just because it is summer and the weather is good, or does he usually do this many foreign trips?

Today Online (http://www.todayonline.com/articles/265601.asp)
Title: Re: Naruhito in Spain
Post by: Jenee on July 22, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hD_1PewWbVg5Xxb0ibp7PTDQ5eqg
Title: A Divorce
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 31, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
Does anyone know what would happen if Masako wanted a divorce? Would the Imperial Court retain full custody of Aiko, what would the terms be?
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Jenee on August 02, 2008, 02:18:04 AM
I don't know- Since Aiko can't inherit, I don't think they would be as possessive as they would if she were male.
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: sillyjobug on August 02, 2008, 03:27:19 AM
They seem like a strict RF...would they even allow a divorce?!
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Jenee on August 03, 2008, 12:33:25 AM
I think someone, in another thread, said that they would be allowed.
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 04, 2008, 01:41:32 PM
I wonder how the Imperial Court would handle it. 
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: scooter on August 08, 2008, 01:17:45 AM
I would think the IHA would be thrilled if they divorced. Marry Naruhito off to some 17 year old who can pop out 6 boys.
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 08, 2008, 01:11:14 PM
Gross. Maybe someone in her twenties, more malleable.

You know, like Diana... *snicker*
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Lila the Flirt on August 08, 2008, 01:28:26 PM
I think the IRF frowns upon a divorce. Despite everything, I think Naruhito really loves Masako and vice versa. And yes, the family would retain full custody. All royal families do.
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: BUTTER on August 23, 2008, 09:27:59 AM
Masako very unhappy she had to much pressure trying to have a son. She still is stress out from it. I pray for both of them to fight this thought. She can't get along with the Royal family they are asking to much of her. If they do get divorce the children stay with the Royal family. 
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Cordelia on August 25, 2008, 06:26:08 AM
I doubt the IHA would be thrilled by the possibility of a divorce and a remarriage and sons of Naruhito from a second marriage. It seems as though the Akishino family is more to the taste of the IHA and they must be thrilled that it's a son of Prince Akishino's who's set to inherit.
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Arubiina on August 25, 2008, 11:20:05 PM
It would be fair to assume that a divorce will completely destroy Crown Princess Masako. Furthermore, the IHA might not wish to deal with an awkward situation such as a divorce. Japan is a well-developed industrial country with values, norms and traditions that have not changed much overtime. The background has become different (skyscrapers, high tech gadgets, changes in fashion tastes). However, the very essence of lifestyle has not changed much. Another point is that Crown Prince Naruhito might refuse to re-marry as Prime Minister Koizumi did.
Title: Man wants to kill Japanese Crown Prince
Post by: Jenee on September 01, 2008, 01:30:22 AM
Man wants to kill Japanese Crown Prince (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/08/man-wants-to-ki.html)

QuoteJapanese police have arrested a man who allegedly posted murder threats against Crown Prince Naruhito on an Internet message site, officials said Saturday.
Title: Re: Man wants to kill Japanese Crown Prince
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 04, 2008, 01:26:29 PM
This guy won't last long.
Title: Address: Eleventh World Congress of Endoscopic Surgery
Post by: Jenee on September 06, 2008, 09:11:56 PM
Imperial Household (http://www.kunaicho.go.jp/address/address-crownprince-2008-9.html)

Title: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on September 27, 2008, 12:18:59 AM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/09/prince-akishino.html (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/09/prince-akishino.html)

QuoteJapan's last native ibis died 27 years ago. On Thursday morning, Prince Akishino and Princess Kiko were among the notables that freed the birds from wooden boxes at a ceremony held in the city of Sado, on a small island off of Japan's coast about 170 miles (275 kilometers) northwest of Tokyo.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 27, 2008, 02:22:23 PM
How wonderful of him to breed them and then release them into the wild. I have to admire the Japanese Imperial Family for their intellectual pursuits.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Jenee on October 17, 2008, 02:08:49 AM
I agree KF. I think this is a great thing!
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 17, 2008, 01:12:57 PM
It's so cool how the Japanese Royal Family does all these academic and scientific things. They do their engagements, but do so many productive things while they are not in the public eye.
Title: 100th anniversary of the founding of the School of the Sacred Heart in Tokyo
Post by: Jenee on October 19, 2008, 12:16:36 AM
Address by Her Majesty the Empress at the ceremony commemorating the 100th anniversary of the founding of the School of the Sacred Heart in Tokyo (http://www.kunaicho.go.jp/address/address-empress-2008.html)
Title: Empress sees herself with her children
Post by: Jenee on October 21, 2008, 01:06:14 AM
Empress sees herself with her children (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/10/imperial-family.html)

QuoteTokyo's oldest department store, famous Takashimaya, hosts a photo exhibition entitled "Empress and her children", which has been organised by Japan's Mainichi Newspaper.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Jenee on October 21, 2008, 01:07:28 AM
I think that the Japanese Imperial Family are backward in many ways... however, I have mad respect for them for stuff like this.
Title: Japan's empress releases annual birthday statement
Post by: Jenee on October 21, 2008, 01:08:38 AM
Internationl Herald Tribune (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/20/asia/AS-Japan-Empress.php)

QuoteJapan's empress is praying for her ailing daughter-in-law and worries about the cancer her husband is fighting, but gets great joy from her grandchildren, she says in her annual birthday statement released Monday.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 21, 2008, 06:40:26 PM
No wonder the Japanese people are so proud of their Royal Family.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Arubiina on October 21, 2008, 08:51:41 PM
Quote from: Jenee on October 21, 2008, 01:07:28 AM
I think that the Japanese Imperial Family are backward in many ways... however, I have mad respect for them for stuff like this.
[my bolding]
I wonder in what ways exactly the Japanese Imperial family is backward. ... perhaps because the IHA has not given in to demands of establishing the equal primogeniture ... The Japanese Imperial family is deeply traditional. Unlike usual European monarchs, Tenno was considered to to be of a divine origin. Thus, it may safely be assumed that Tenno is both a highest-rank cleric and a ceremonial figurehead in the constitutional monarchy. The key purpose of the Japanese Imperial family is to strictly uphold and preserve traditional Japanese values, which may seem peculiar to outsiders.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: wheet on October 21, 2008, 09:19:31 PM
 :)  As it should.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 22, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
Quote from: Arubiina on October 21, 2008, 08:51:41 PM
[my bolding]
I wonder in what ways exactly the Japanese Imperial family is backward. ... perhaps because the IHA has not given in to demands of establishing the equal primogeniture ... The Japanese Imperial family is deeply traditional. Unlike usual European monarchs, Tenno was considered to to be of a divine origin. Thus, it may safely be assumed that Tenno is both a highest-rank cleric and a ceremonial figurehead in the constitutional monarchy. The key purpose of the Japanese Imperial family is to strictly uphold and preserve traditional Japanese values, which may seem peculiar to outsiders.

Also, the royal dynasty (it's called the Jimmu) is the only one that has reigned in Japan. Ever. Even when the Fujiwara provided numerous royal brides and they were a dominant influence, they never dared to try to usurp the throne.

During the engagement crisis between Hirohito (then Crown Prince) and Princess Nagako, the Black Dragon Society went on a rampage against Prince Yamagata (he accused Princess Nagako of being colorblind and therefore unfit because of her genes) for making the Emperor seem, ech, not sure how to put it.

Here's a bit of help:

http://www.etoile.co.uk/Columns/PandorasBox/041207.html

QuoteOne of the most powerful men in Japan came forward to allege that the princess was colorblind, thus making her ineligible on genetic grounds to take a place in the imperial line. Field Marshal Yamagata headed a samurai clan that was a rival to Nagako's mother's family and he wanted the Crown Prince to choose a bride from his own clan.

The whole point is, the Japanese have every right to decide how the Imperial succession is done. The Imperial Family hasn't humiliated their country or run around treating the world like it's their playground. Given how royal families behave these days, I think the Japanese know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Arubiina on October 23, 2008, 01:34:56 AM
I quite agree with you. The Japanese Imperial family has got every right to have male primogeniture. I see nothing wrong with male primogeniture. 
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 23, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
Besides, IF they allowed Aiko to become Empress Regnant, her husband would technically largely replace the Imperial bloodline with his own. The male genes dominate and the Imperial Family needs to preserve the lineage. It's something that they (rightly) take seriously and don't want jeapordized.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Arubiina on October 23, 2008, 03:17:46 PM
Despite of modern developments, I would say that Asian culture in general is male-dominated. It is understandable that the Japanese Imperial family wishes to preserve the lineage and clean bloodline. It would be fair to say that European Royal houses have replaced their bloodline (e.g., the UK, Denmark, Netherlands). Although the aforementioned Queens do a wonderful job serving their respective countries, the their bloodlines have been replaced by those of their husbands ... technically speaking. I am actually surprised to see willingness of the European houses to do so. What is wrong with having the male/equal primogeniture? It does not matter whether or or not newly-enlightened Europeans like it, European countries as well as Asian ones are of a patriarchal nature. Thus, the lineage is preserved and tracked via males. This means that the preference must be given to a son of a particular Crown Princely couple, even if this son is not the first child. If a particular Crown Princely couple (e.g., Spain or Netherlands) has not got a son, the equal primogeniture must come to the forefront. I fail to understand this equal primogeniture hysteria ... 
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 24, 2008, 05:14:37 PM
Right. A lot of these replacements have to do with a lot of pressure and meddling by the politicians under pressure to be politically correct.
Title: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Anyasha on October 26, 2008, 09:02:52 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5010291.ece

QuoteFive years after she gave up public duties because of depression, sympathy for the Princess's plight is giving way to scepticism about the seriousness of her condition - and to anxiety about what her continuing indisposition will mean for the monarchy when her husband, Crown Prince Naruhito, succeeds to the Chrysanthemum Throne.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
What is going on? Masako really has to get herself together. She can't keep allowing herself to wallow in depression. She has got to take charge of her life or she's going to bring her husband down.

Quotewhat her continuing indisposition will mean for the monarchy when her husband, Crown Prince Naruhito, succeeds to the Chrysanthemum Throne.

QuotePrincess Masako has been seen at expensive restaurants but not royal events

She's getting way too much pampering. She has to stop indulging her problems and get it together.

QuoteShe has been photographed dining at expensive Chinese, Mexican and French restaurants and attending events at her daughter's school.

It sounds to me like Masako is living the life of a trophy wife. She can't handle cutting ribbons and waving to people and going to concerts, but she can handle going to posh places. I have no sympathy.

Princess Diana sacrificed a lot of parent time to do her duties. Honestly, if Diana can do it, no other princess on this earth has to no reason to shirk.

Times like this I realize how much of a standard that Diana set for other female consorts.

QuoteNext week, for example, Naruhito and Masako - both British-educated - will give a private dinner party for the Prince of Wales and the Duchess. But next month, when King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia of Spain are on a six-day visit, Masako will not make an appearance. "What logical explanation can we give for that?" a palace insider asks. "That the British are healthy but the Spanish make her ill?"

Too selective.

Quote"The members of the Imperial Family are the passengers of the ship named the Imperial System, but not its owners," he wrote. "If one individual gets seasick and cannot stay on board, then there is no alternative but to disembark."

Coming from a magazine that is vociferous in it's defense of the Imperial Family, I think someone should give Masako a talking to.

People have to stop feeling sorry for 'normal' women who enter royal families. I think educated women should become royal members, stupid women being an embarrassment, but they shouldn't be allowed to perpetually indulge in 'I lost my normal life' vapors. She is refusing to take charge of her life and as someone who had a brilliant career, she has no right to complain. Times like this I understand why the Japanese courtiers preferred someone royal or aristocratic.
Title: Re: Japan's empress releases annual birthday statement
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2008, 01:36:11 PM
Quotethe cancer her husband is fighting,

The Emperor has cancer!! OH MY FREAKIN' GOD :jawdrop:!! Why isn't this all over the place!?
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: drezzle on October 27, 2008, 03:59:44 PM
I love it -- she's doing exactly what is to be expected.   First she gets zero respect because she can't produce a boy, and
then her only child is disinherited.  That is outrageous for any thinking person in today's world.  What mother or father in their right mind would want to give one more minute of respect to that kind of authority?   :PMS:

Next from all reports they give her deadly psychotropics whose long term side-effects are not all known-- but in some people can effectively act like a lobotomy.   :cursingmad:
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Arubiina on October 27, 2008, 10:45:44 PM
Dear Kung Fei,
I see your point, but have you got any accurate information about Crown Princess Masako's well-being? Do you know whether Crown Princess Masako wishes to withdraw from performing her duties or she is highly advised to do so in order to avoid some possible awkward situation ? The IHA refuses to discuss how her treatment progresses and, thus, allows royal watchers and public at large making guesses, and leaks bits of information about her whenever it feels necessary.
Title: Aiko goes to see exhibit of grandmother
Post by: Jenee on October 27, 2008, 11:26:58 PM
Aiko goes to see exhibit of grandmother (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/10/imperial-family.html)

Masako is also pictured. Hopefully this means she is doing better.
Title: Re: Aiko goes to see exhibit of grandmother
Post by: Monika on October 28, 2008, 12:00:36 AM
Quote from: Jenee on October 27, 2008, 11:26:58 PM
Aiko goes to see exhibit of grandmother (http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/10/imperial-family.html)

Masako is also pictured. Hopefully this means she is doing better.

She looks as if she is............
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 28, 2008, 01:27:07 PM
I'm only going by what I'm reading and hearing on this forum.
Title: Re: Japan's empress releases annual birthday statement
Post by: Jenee on October 31, 2008, 12:55:40 PM
No idea! It was the first I've read of it
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Jenee on October 31, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: Arubiina on October 23, 2008, 01:34:56 AM
I quite agree with you. The Japanese Imperial family has got every right to have male primogeniture. I see nothing wrong with male primogeniture. 

You see nothing wrong with a system that has caused Princess Masako so much stress that she's been ill for years?
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Arubiina on October 31, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
Well ... I lived in this system as well as this system has marked an imprint on ways I behave and live in the Western society. Having said that, I do acknowledge the fact that the system is flawed. Similar to most Asian countries, Japan is a country with values, norms and traditions that have not changed much overtime. The background has become different (skyscrapers, high tech gadgets, changes in fashion tastes). However, the very essence of lifestyle has not changed much. It will take a lot of time to alter old-fashioned attitudes.
Title: Re: Prince Akishino releases wild ibises
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 31, 2008, 06:27:15 PM
And I don't think feminists or the Western press and public have any right to smash it to Politically Correct pieces.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Miz Busybody on November 01, 2008, 05:56:11 AM
She is an intelligent, highly educated woman and she is also beautiful.  The IHA is too controlling; it is a fact that they won't let her travel with her husband when he travels overseas.  I believe that she is not allowed to make many official appearances and good for her for not turning into a plastic figure like some other female members of the royal family.  She looks happy when she is with her husband and child on informal occasions.  I hope her little family can withstand the onslaught from the IHA and I wish them only the best in the future.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Arubiina on November 05, 2008, 04:28:04 PM
While not condoning actions of the IHA, I have to say that the IHA just does its job by strictly adhering to the traditions. Yes, the IHA tends to be overbearing in preserving an image of the Imperial family and traditions. You may be surprised, but a good number of Japanese does not sympathise with Crown Princess Masako's plight. Look at the comments under the article. For instance:
QuoteI've been for many years sceptical about her illness. Although many commentators showed sympathy for her by saying, "It is natural that she got depressed as She was forced to give up her brilliant career and confined in royal ceremony", and so on, she seemed to be just a selfish, spoiled woman.
Yuki, Tokyo, Japan
Of course, there are more sympathetic people. The culture demands Crown Princess Masako to fulfill her giri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giri_(Japanese) and nothing more.
Title: Emperor awards high order to former minister
Post by: Jenee on November 06, 2008, 02:33:34 AM
Swiss Info (http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news_digest/Emperor_awards_high_order_to_former_minister.html?siteSect=104&sid=9923730&cKey=1225722127000&ty=nd)

QuoteJapan's Emperor Akihito will decorate former Economics Minister Joseph Deiss with one of the highest orders he can bestow, the economics ministry said on Monday.

Deiss, who served as Switzerland's economics minister from 2002-2006, actively sought to better economic ties with Japan, travelling there while also serving as president in 2004.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 06, 2008, 03:17:59 PM
The IHA is filled with people who sincerely believe the Emperor is divine, like the men in gray do in Buckingham Palace.

Crown Princess Masako has to get her mental health in order. Michiko went through worse as the first commoner to enter the Imperial Family and she got it together after a nervous breakdown.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Arubiina on November 06, 2008, 04:23:22 PM
I would say that the IHA tends to do much better job than the grey cardinals in the UK
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 06, 2008, 07:01:44 PM
Yeah. I heard that potential brides are vetted and throughout the months the IHA have someone bring in any disreputable things in a brown paper bag to be looked over.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: sillyjobug on November 10, 2008, 05:01:20 PM
There is a vast difference between what people refer to as "feeling depressed" and the clinical condition called depression. "Feeling depressed" just means you're bummed out, people say it all the time, and it means next to nothing. This is a problem because it leads us to take actual depression for granted. We assume it's the same as all the other people who feel "depressed" when they have a bad hair day. It is not! Not by a long shot. Michiko may have dealt with her problems better, but her problems may not have been rooted in neurology. She could've just freaked out. It's a lot easier to recover from that than from depression.

Depression can't really be cured, either. It's effects can be lessened, situations can change and you can feel less pressure on yourself, but it is a chemical imbalance that will basically always be there. Medication can help some people, although it has the dangerous potential of turning a patient suicidal. If Masako found this to be the case with drugs like Prozac, she surely wouldn't stay on them. So perhaps she is dealing with things as best as she can. Maybe she pulls herself together for the things she feels are truly important, like supporting her daughter. My mother did this, she was always there for me, but that didn't mean she wasn't very depressed. She was still able to go out with friends, it often cheered her to some extent. But when she got bad, she was really bad. Masako is in a terrible position. If the stress on her is part of what triggered her depression to really kick in, then stuff like this certainly won't help her.

Nobody should be scorned for a problem they cannot control.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 12, 2008, 02:36:28 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if courtiers should perform psychological tests on potential consorts.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Anyasha on November 19, 2008, 12:43:34 AM
^ Forgive me if this sounds cold but I think the problem with Masako lies more in lazyness than psychological issues.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 19, 2008, 07:41:51 PM
I think so too. It's something I sincerely believe. Masako is indulging too much in her problems. She can afford to go to wealthy watering holes but not a few ribbon cutting ceremonies. A few openings. A few simple events. She has got to get it together. Her mother-in-law managed, Nagako managed, why can't she?
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Arubiina on November 21, 2008, 01:11:48 AM
Crown Princess Masako has made several public appearances alongside the Imperial family. This is a good development. Perhaps, there must have been good advances in the treatment of her disorder. Furthermore, we do not know for sure whether it is Crown Princess Masako's decision to lead a cloistered life or she is highly advised to do so by the IHA. At the same time, I fully agree with Kuei Fei noting that Crown Princess Masako should pull herself up and fully participate in the life of the Imperial family.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2008, 06:36:08 PM
Perhaps the reason they're riding her so hard is because the Emperor has cancer and they want a direct heir from Naruhito.

Once Naruhito becomes Emperor, it would add new pressure or they're trying to get rid of her so that way the Throne won't be rocked by a divorce between an Emperor and Empress, which would rip the Chrysanthemum Throne apart.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her d
Post by: Miz Busybody on December 01, 2008, 03:01:54 AM
Kuei Fei....her mother-in-law managed so well that she had a nervous breakdown and on two occasions was unable to talk for several months.   I have heard that daughters of aristocratic Japanese families were quickly married off when the royal eye was cast upon them as families knew how awful that life would be.  Masako turned down Naruhito's proposal a couple of times.  Having said that, she looks wonderful in recent photos.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 01, 2008, 02:21:52 PM
True, but she got herself together in the end.
Title: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: marine2109 on December 02, 2008, 11:22:07 AM
QuotePhotos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2008/12/01/japan-aiko-hisahito/ (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2008/12/01/japan-aiko-hisahito/)
Title: Re: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: tricia on December 03, 2008, 02:39:08 AM
It's interesting that Hisahito is always the focus in the family photos.  Not very fair, in my opinion, to Princesses Mako and Kako.
Title: Re: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 03, 2008, 06:36:25 PM
I'm' not saying it's right, but he is the future Emperor.
Title: Re: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: Jenee on December 04, 2008, 10:58:30 PM
Thanks for posting this link Marine - the pics are great!

Who are the two ladies in the left of this picture? LINK (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2008/12/01/japan-aiko-hisahito/imgs/japanese-1a.jpg)

They both have a great sense of style!
Title: Princess Aiko's poorly birthday
Post by: Jenee on December 04, 2008, 11:00:26 PM
M&C (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/royalwatch/news/article_1446113.php/Princess_Aikos_poorly_birthday)

QuoteJapan's Princess Aiko missed out on her seventh birthday party this week because she caught a cold.

The young royal - the daughter of Crown Prince Naruhito and Crown Princess Masako - was due to celebrate at a palace party on Monday (01.12.08), but the ceremony was cancelled after the princess' temperature rose above 38C.

Poor kid! I had to miss my first birthday party because I fell asleep half way through it. :cry: :lmao:
Title: Re: Princess Aiko's poorly birthday
Post by: marine2109 on December 06, 2008, 05:35:14 PM
QuotePhotos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2008/12/01/japan-aiko-hisahito/ (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2008/12/01/japan-aiko-hisahito/)
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Jenee on December 11, 2008, 12:58:15 AM
M&C: Princess Masako's health 'improving' (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/royalwatch/news/article_1447318.php/Princess_Masakos_health_improving)
Title: Re: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: marine2109 on December 11, 2008, 01:38:16 PM
Hi Jenee,they're daughters of Prince Akishino (Fumuhito) and his wife, the former Kawashima Kiko, is a member of the Japanese imperial family.Their names are Princess Mako and Princess Kako.
Title: Re: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: koolkat on December 12, 2008, 01:55:35 AM
cool.
Title: Re: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: Mika2 on December 15, 2008, 03:45:20 PM
I heard that Princess Masako is feeling better. I hope she will continue to make good recovery.
Title: Re: Photos give glimpse of new generation of Japanese royals
Post by: tricia on December 16, 2008, 01:33:50 AM
I hope so too.  She is one of my favorite royal women.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Mika2 on December 16, 2008, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
What is going on? Masako really has to get herself together. She can't keep allowing herself to wallow in depression. She has got to take charge of her life or she's going to bring her husband down.
Dear Kuei Fei,

The trouble is, there is a great difference between what we call "depression or being depressed" and clinical depression. People who have clinical depression or mental illness, cannot just get themselves together, as they wish.  You may also be surprised at how normal people with clinical depression/mental illness can look. I had a patient who was fine if I bumped into her in town...but if she came under slightest pressure from somewhere/someone or when put under stressful situation, she just crumbled. She may cry at a slightest thing, or go completely silent without talking to anyone for days .... those people are truely unwell, though they may not look that way and cant just snap out of it. Because of this, she had to leave work which she used to love. Not because she was lazy, no... 

Mental illness can take years to improve drastically and even after that not all of them recover....many would continue to take their medication for a long time.

I heard that Princess Masako is feeling better and have been taking on more formal duty. I hope she continues to improve. 

ps Also no one should compare her to her mother in law....why? because they are 2 different people. People with illness/sickness rcover at differrent rate...it's not a competition, is it :-)    
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Mika2 on December 16, 2008, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: sillyjobug on November 10, 2008, 05:01:20 PM
There is a vast difference between what people refer to as "feeling depressed" and the clinical condition called depression. "Feeling depressed" just means you're bummed out, people say it all the time, and it means next to nothing. This is a problem because it leads us to take actual depression for granted. We assume it's the same as all the other people who feel "depressed" when they have a bad hair day. It is not! Not by a long shot. Michiko may have dealt with her problems better, but her problems may not have been rooted in neurology. She could've just freaked out. It's a lot easier to recover from that than from depression.

Depression can't really be cured, either. It's effects can be lessened, situations can change and you can feel less pressure on yourself, but it is a chemical imbalance that will basically always be there. Medication can help some people, although it has the dangerous potential of turning a patient suicidal. If Masako found this to be the case with drugs like Prozac, she surely wouldn't stay on them. So perhaps she is dealing with things as best as she can. Maybe she pulls herself together for the things she feels are truly important, like supporting her daughter. My mother did this, she was always there for me, but that didn't mean she wasn't very depressed. She was still able to go out with friends, it often cheered her to some extent. But when she got bad, she was really bad. Masako is in a terrible position. If the stress on her is part of what triggered her depression to really kick in, then stuff like this certainly won't help her.

Nobody should be scorned for a problem they cannot control.

Oh I'm sorry, I hadnt read your good post...I was almost repeating what you said. pardon me.   
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 17, 2008, 02:42:52 PM
Quote from: Mika2 on December 16, 2008, 10:00:16 PM
Dear Kuei Fei,

The trouble is, there is a great difference between what we call "depression or being depressed" and clinical depression. People who have clinical depression or mental illness, cannot just get themselves together, as they wish.  You may also be surprised at how normal people with clinical depression/mental illness can look. I had a patient who was fine if I bumped into her in town...but if she came under slightest pressure from somewhere/someone or when put under stressful situation, she just crumbled. She may cry at a slightest thing, or go completely silent without talking to anyone for days .... those people are truely unwell, though they may not look that way and cant just snap out of it. Because of this, she had to leave work which she used to love. Not because she was lazy, no... 

Mental illness can take years to improve drastically and even after that not all of them recover....many would continue to take their medication for a long time.

I heard that Princess Masako is feeling better and have been taking on more formal duty. I hope she continues to improve. 

ps Also no one should compare her to her mother in law....why? because they are 2 different people. People with illness/sickness rcover at differrent rate...it's not a competition, is it :-)

I have experienced clinical depression. I know what it's like, okay? That's why I don't feel sorry for her because I know what it's like to crumble and yet be pressured to move forward all the time. I've had to pull myself together and maintain a solid routine and keep going so I don't feel sorry for her.

How many months will it take until she gets it together? All she has to do is cut ribbons and smile and wave. That's it.

She doesn't have to maintain a full career or raise her children all on her own, she doesn't have to worry about bills. I'm sick and tired of these women marrying into these families and then of course falling apart and not doing their duties and then complaining about how bad they have it. They then indulge in their neuroses and ignore their very simple obligations.
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Inge Jones on December 17, 2008, 03:50:18 PM
I am of the opinion that partners should not be expected to assist the main person in their job.  There should be no Queen just because she is married to a King, no First Lady just because she is married to the President, and so on.  The person whose job it is is whose job it is. 
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: drezzle on December 17, 2008, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: Kuei Fei on December 17, 2008, 02:42:52 PM

She doesn't have to maintain a full career or raise her children all on her own, she doesn't have to worry about bills. I'm sick and tired of these women marrying into these families and then of course falling apart and not doing their duties and then complaining about how bad they have it. They then indulge in their neuroses and ignore their very simple obligations.

Good for you Kuei Fei.  However, if you did not have to maintain a full career, or raise your own children because someone else insisted on doing it instead, and you didn't have to worry about bills, would you have pulled yourself together as quickly?
Title: Re: Sympathy turns to scepticism as courtiers whisper princess does not do her duty
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 17, 2008, 05:56:25 PM
Yes, if not quicker because I sought out help. I didn't just try to carry myself through and I admittedly did receive a good talking to when I wasn't facing the situation as squarely as I should have.
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 18, 2008, 03:02:32 PM
I wonder what the repercussions would be for the Throne.
Title: Re: A Divorce
Post by: losarboles on December 19, 2008, 01:56:25 PM
Quote from: Kuei Fei on July 31, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
Does anyone know what would happen if Masako wanted a divorce? Would the Imperial Court retain full custody of Aiko, what would the terms be?

I am assuming that the one who wasn't part of the family wouldn't get anything. However because of modern times she probably would :)
but yes everything goes via the male line.... grrr lol.
Title: Emperor Akihito Turns 75
Post by: marine2109 on December 23, 2008, 07:18:51 PM
QuoteEmperor Akihito Turns 75
TOKYO - DECEMBER 23: Crown Prince Naruhito, Emperor Akihito, Empress Michiko and Prince Akishino wave to the well-wishers celebrating Emperor Akihito's 75th birthday at the Imperial Palace on December 23, 2008 in Tokyo, Japan. The Emperor, who has recently been diagnosed with a stress-related illness, made his first public appearance in a fortnight during today's celebration, where he was greeted by nearly 20000 well-wishers.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=83773205# (http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=83773205#)
Title: Re: Emperor Akihito Turns 75
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 23, 2008, 07:44:49 PM
Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Emperor Akihito Turns 75
Post by: Arubiina on December 23, 2008, 09:03:48 PM
It has been nice to see the Imperial family. Despite recent stress, Emperor Akihito looked cheerful.
Title: Re: Emperor Akihito Turns 75
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 25, 2008, 04:36:48 PM
He is so handsome. As for her Imperial Majesty, she is tiny but I wouldn't want to cross her.