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March 03, 2021, 11:55:19 PM Last Edit: September 06, 2021, 02:11:46 PM by TLLK
A thread to discuss the investigation by Buckingham Palace Human Resources regarding allegations of staff bullying by the Duchess of Sussex

QuoteNote-This thread has undergone a significant clean up with many posts moved to the Sussex Interview thread. It is ONLY for the news and discussion related the HR investigation of the bullying claims.

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Meghan Markle's 'bully' claims are the worst royal crisis since the abdication writes RICHARD KAY  | Daily Mail Online

Buckingham Palace launches probe into allegations Meghan Markle bullied royal staff  | Daily Mail Online

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PIERS MORGAN: Meghan and Harry's IWD 'guide' is victimhood garbage  | Daily Mail Online

Palace Launches Probe into Meghan Markle Bullying Claims | PEOPLE.com

Meghan Markle Saddened by Bullying Allegations by Palace Staffers | PEOPLE.com

Buckingham Palace reacts to Meghan Markle bullying claim reports | HELLO!

Meghan Markle responds to claims she 'bullied' Kensington Palace staff | HELLO!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56272104

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Buckingham Palace to investigate Meghan 'bullying' allegations | ITV News

What the decision by royal sources to approach media over Meghan Markle bullying claims means | ITV News

Royal aides 'incandescent' over Meghan Markle smear claims amid all-out war at Palace - Mirror Online

Piers Morgan takes aim at Meghan Markle after bullying and 'emotional cruelty' claims - Mirror Online

Queen orders investigation into Meghan Markle bullying claims & say ?we are very concerned & won't tolerate harassment?

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Meghan Markle's pal accuses palace of racism after bullying claims & says Duchess 'knew it would get ugly' before Oprah

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Duchess Meghan faces report of bullying claims ahead of highly anticipated Oprah interview | GMA

Meghan Markle responds to report suggesting she bullied royal aides

Meghan Markle responds to report suggesting she bullied palace aides

Buckingham Palace to probe allegations that Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, bullied UK staff - CNN

Buckingham Palace responds to Meghan Markle bullying allegations report: ?We are clearly very concerned? | Fox News


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Palace probes claims Meghan bullied staff | Daily Mail Online


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Buckingham Palace HR department to look into allegations of bullying against the Duchess of Sussex ? Royal Central

The Duchess of Sussex tells Buckingham Palace she won?t be silenced ? Royal Central

TryingTimes

#1
March 05, 2021, 08:33:00 PM
Interesting - it's now Buckingham Palace and the Queen who are "empowering" the female staff by giving them a chance to speak about mistreatment against them. I thought Meghan believed in empowering women by giving them a "voice"? Shouldn't Meghan approve of her former staff being empowered to speak up, too?

The differences between Buckingham Palace's approach and Meghan's is the privacy factor as well as investigational approach vs broad public declarations of blame and guilt without investigation: 

The "abused" staff's names are being redacted when news articles are released on the subject - the staff/former staff's individual privacies are being protected by the BRF/BM. And Buckingham Palace is currently investigating the charges - NOT declaring Meghan as automatically guilty. ALL the facts and information regarding these incidents are NOT currently being released to the public - just general references.

Meghan is not "protecting" the individual members of the BRF, but she is insinuating ALL BRF and staff (and all of Britain!!!) are to blame. (I guess we need to wait to hear her actual words from the Oprah interview first, before assuming this is the case.) Instead of dealing with her grievances privately through correspondence or personal communications, she airs it all for the world to see. She lumps everyone together and declares ALL are guilty.

Meghan has opened this up as an open air "court" of public opinion to decide that SHE is innocent of Megxit accusations, and the BRF and Britain are ALL - every single one of them - GUILTY of a conspiracy of hate and racism, which left them no choice but to leave. British discretion and BRF values of "never complain, never explain" be "damned". Isn't it wonderful for Meghan that the BRF cannot counter her accusations without breaking their own value system rules?

BRF and Palace aides used to protect Meghan from public scrutiny regarding her treatment of staff. Now Meghan has been removed from royal protection since she herself "divorced" the Royal Family and started publicly airing her grievances against them. Meghan herself opened the door for Royal staff to speak publicly about their own bad experiences under Meghan, since Meghan herself opened up and welcomed public scrutiny into this issue. Therefore Meghan has no right to complain when Royal staff members open up and counter Meghan's complaints with their own point of view, to defend themselves against Meghan's accusations.
"These are the times that try men's souls... Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives everything its value." --Thomas Paine

PrincessOfPeace

#2
March 05, 2021, 08:37:38 PM
^^^ Totally agree.

wannable

#5
March 07, 2021, 12:16:09 PM Last Edit: March 08, 2021, 06:28:17 PM by TLLK
This internal investigation of ex-employees has ramifications like roots to a tree. The fact* that all these ex-employees were hired by choice by the couple rather than imposed by BP is even more damaging, in the sense that when HR paper trail has 'you chose these people, it's your responsibility' versus 'imposed personnel'.

*fact: Ex-employees speaking out that they were interviewed and chosen by the Sussex's.  There is also an article written by Alexandra Shulman (Ex Vogue UK CEO) saying that a young female friend of hers had applied and went to the interview process, but wasn't selected - the usual process in any company.

I thought initially that their personnel were imposed to them, but apparently not.

wannable

#6
March 08, 2021, 06:07:39 PM Last Edit: March 08, 2021, 06:29:39 PM by TLLK
2 hours of accusations with no evidence presented.

The Sussex's oepening a new can of worms (Worldwide) that it's okay to implicate everyone in serious charges, with no proof.  :happy17: So in social media the 🐈 fight is both sides saying to each other 'I don't have to present any proof, I can say whatever I want'.  Toxic.

wannable

#8
March 09, 2021, 03:12:38 AM
Rebecca English: The Queen refused to sign a statement regarded with much love her grandson and his family.

Something is not convincing her. Too much stuff has happened. RE thinks the BP statement is too Charles and William.

She wants to wait overnight BST. 

I think it's all lost with Harry and Meghan.

wannable

#9
March 09, 2021, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: wannable on March 09, 2021, 03:12:38 AM
Rebecca English: The Queen refused to sign a statement regarded with much love her grandson and his family.

Something is not convincing her. Too much stuff has happened. RE thinks the BP statement is too Charles and William.

She wants to wait overnight BST. 

I think it's all lost with Harry and Meghan.

I think I know now, the refusal has to do with how all companies treat ex employees that leave through the emergency stairwell rather than the front door. It's a saying in corporate world of leaving in good or bad terms.

Curryong

#10
March 09, 2021, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: wannable on March 09, 2021, 12:22:49 PM
I think I know now, the refusal has to do with how all companies treat ex employees that leave through the emergency stairwell rather than the front door. It's a saying in corporate world of leaving in good or bad terms.

As I?ve observed several time here before, BP and the RF are not strictly a business nor are they strictly a family. They are a strange conglomeration of those two things and several others such as competing courts with rivalries and  jealousies between them.

Expecting the family  to behave as if they are executives in  a modern business doesn?t cut it. Would for instance a CEO continue to pay one son (Andrew) an annual allowance, (a private one) which the next CEO and the next will have to pay until that person?s death in perhaps thirty years time ?

That doesnt happen in any business I know of. And equally, I do not believe that the Queen regards her children and grandchildren who work or who have worked as full time royals as her employees.

wannable

#11
March 09, 2021, 01:09:54 PM Last Edit: March 09, 2021, 01:15:52 PM by wannable
But they are, the sovereign grant, duchies, met police use report which is made public by law, they use all the tools technology and best practices of the best Co. Worldwide. Financial statements,  they go further with external auditors, they document and record everything. Their works with the government domestic, foreign and trade departments are very high standard.

Even the met police, best of best article gave their view of Harry and Meghan wanting and moaning of the taking away of protection officers, a combination of costs, stating numbers, and government and royal policies of senior workers who get it and not. It's available in all major UK media.

Curryong

#12
March 09, 2021, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: wannable on March 09, 2021, 01:09:54 PM
But they are, the sovereign grant, duckies use all the tools technology and best practices of the best Co. Worldwide. Financial statements,  they go further with external auditors, they document and record everything. Their works with the government domestic, foreign and trade departments are very high standard.

That has evolved over the centuries since the time of King George III in the evolving of a constitutional monarchy in Britain. I?ll bet King George V didn?t have government audits, and King George VI who was the first to speak fondly of the Firm, would have scoffed at the idea that he was a sort of CEO over his brothers, their wives, his own wife and his daughters. It?s the conglomeration that I spoke of in my last post, and its all been extremely gradual.

They have to record everything meticulously. If they didn?t the BRF wouldn?t survive because it largely relies on governmental monies being doled out each year. That?s another thing that separates it from big corporations.

Izabella

#13
March 11, 2021, 12:25:37 AM
Not shocked nor surprised by any of this. Similarities with Wallis (well look wise anyway) and mirroring Diana?s infamous interview and suicidal claims. Think the RF would?ve learnt by now. With DoK parading around in that pin of hers. Air of haughtiness and colonialism.

As for Archie...He?ll be fine. Title or not. A lawyer (with a name like that!  :lol:)  or a real life Batman!  :lol: 

wannable

#14
March 14, 2021, 02:07:10 AM
Breaking: Buckingham Palace will be using external law firm to do the bullying investigation rather than Internal.

Curryong

#15
March 14, 2021, 02:38:47 AM
Good. So long as everything is fair and above board to Meghan AS WELL as her accusers, then let the cards fall where they may.

wannable

#16
March 14, 2021, 02:39:16 AM Last Edit: March 14, 2021, 02:58:22 AM by wannable
Russell Myers
Huge development in the Meghan ?bullying? row as it emerges Buckingham Palace is to bring in an external law firm to handle the probe ordered by the Queen. Royal sources tell

@RoyaNikkhah

: ?The actual worst incidences haven?t come out. There are some harrowing stories to tell.
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^ she's sitting on them.

Curryong

#17
March 14, 2021, 03:32:21 AM
However, the latest is that the Sussexes are not going to be invited to participate in the Inquiry, which suggests (a) that a kangaroo court in which no rebuttal will be tolerated which would be massively unfair in any proceedings, or (b) it will follow the same terms of reference that the internal Inquiry was going to follow, focussing on procedures within the Palace going forward when dealing with such allegations, and the results will appear in the July 2022 Sovereign Grants accounts. This seems by far the most likely to happen, though it won?t satisfy the media slavering for Meghan?s head on a platter.

wannable

#18
March 14, 2021, 11:54:33 AM Last Edit: September 04, 2021, 05:04:24 PM by TLLK


Back to the bullying case, an independent firm will be hired, yet to be known whom, very likely not any of the magic circles of BRF, a labour specialist firm, Meghan's letter requesting emails messages etc has been received and she will be looped in,.

Lawyers.com says it's the smartest thing to have done, quarrel handled by external between employees vs a principle. Ex employees may sue employer; Clarence House if they win.

PrincessOfPeace

#19
March 14, 2021, 02:02:03 PM
According to The Sunday Times, theres many harrowing stories of Meghan bullying staff that arent public.

wannable

#20
March 14, 2021, 04:02:30 PM
where there's smoke there's fire 🔥

Crikey, another NDA cancelled.  :hehe:

wannable

#21
March 21, 2021, 12:00:12 AM
Apparently the external law firm has drafted questions that have been sent out to ex and actual workers all across the three households as a starter. BP said the investigation will take 1 year and there will be NO running commentary about the results.

Curryong

#22
March 21, 2021, 12:58:10 AM
Quote from: wannable on March 21, 2021, 12:00:12 AM
Apparently the external law firm has drafted questions that have been sent out to ex and actual workers all across the three households as a starter. BP said the investigation will take 1 year and there will be NO running commentary about the results.

I?ve read that this Inquiry is going to encompass any and all incidents of supposed bullying of anyone by any senior staff member in the past few years as well, so in spite of the build up by the tabloids and others about this, I very much doubt that the final report in 2022 Sovereign Grant records is going to put Meghan in the dock.

wannable

#23
March 21, 2021, 03:10:05 AM
The final verdict of the law firm is only to make or not changes to policies and procedures (for the SG), employees and may also include principals.  The confidential report of findings is strictly for the principals to have. Queen, Charles, William. It wont be shared to the public.  The SG will have the policies and procedures new ones or the same, that's what has been said from the beginning and to date hasn't changed.
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