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William's withering private verdict on Harry's tell-all memoir, as revealed by royal confidant GYLES BRANDRETH - who says the late Queen would have (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12472065/Williams-withering-private-verdict-Harrys-tell-memoir-revealed-royal-confidant-GYLES-BRANDRETH-says-late-Queen-appalled-grandson-laid-bare-Spare.html)
Prince William left furious about Harry's Spare attack, claims royal insider | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1808678/prince-William-furious-prince-harry-spare)
I can?t blame the Prince of Wales
Princess Diana?s tough lesson to Prince Harry about his role as Spare that he?s forgotten - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/princess-dianas-tough-lesson-prince-30841554)
If late Diana,Princess of Wales was here today from heaven told Harry don?t write about family in the book last time Diana wrote her book in 1992 and tell all her book Diana will give Harry advice DONT write the memoir!! But Prince William is right
Queen Elizabeth 'understood' Prince Harry's desire to write bombshell Spare book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/queen-elizabeth-understood-prince-harrys-30848207)
Not surprised that
Prince William's telling three-word response to concerned fan amid bitter Harry feud - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-williams-telling-three-word-30833635)
I wouldn't say an attack, Harry defended William on somethings I wouldn't agree with. I would say, if you don't want someone telling people about how put hands on them...then don't put hands on him. If anyone read the book, it wasn't attack but a lot of disappointment in his brothers using the tactic's his father used.
Other than saying, Diana would love her sons and what they do for their charities, maybe even heart broken about the rift, we can't say if she'd advise Harry to do the book or not.
I wish the Queen would've stepped in more and said something about the racism and abuse directed to her grand-daughters in law and her great grand-son.
Spare has passed about 6 million copies sold
After Six Turbulent Months, Penguin Random House Profits Increase Slightly (https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/financial-reporting/article/93077-after-six-turbulent-months-penguin-random-house-profits-increase-slightly.html)
^^^ We'll have to agree to disagree. Having read Spare, IMO there was more than one attack launched at the members Harry's family. Their private conversations and communication were revealed without consent as Harry knew they were unable to respond. Even those outside the family had their own private memories shared without their consent by him.
Yes, as that right there will put many members of the royal family off of wanting to be close to Harry ever again for fear of what they say will end up in a book, on TV or some reporter's interview. There is no way to ever trust him or Meghan again and that is totally on both Harry and Meghan. They betrayed the royal family, and not the royal family betraying them.
Quote from: Nightowl on September 03, 2023, 03:15:24 AM
Yes, as that right there will put many members of the royal family off of wanting to be close to Harry ever again for fear of what they say will end up in a book, on TV or some reporter's interview. There is no way to ever trust him or Meghan again and that is totally on both Harry and Meghan. They betrayed the royal family, and not the royal family betraying them.
You?re right about that
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SPARE written & read by Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex
For your Grammy consideration
11:43 am 11 Oct 2023
^ It didn't make it.
The official list came out today.
Best Audiobook, Narration and Storytelling Recording
''Big Tree,'' Meryl Streep
''Boldly Go: Reflections on a Life of Awe and Wonder,'' William Shatner
''The Creative Act: A Way of Being,'' Rick Rubin
''It's Ok to Be Angry About Capitalism,'' Senator Bernie Sanders
''The Light We Carry: Overcoming in Uncertain Times,'' Michelle Obama
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/10/arts/music/grammys-nominee-list-2024.html
No surprises there at all. Maybe some lessons are learnt the hard way and time to make positive changes for the future.
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Prince Harry and Prince William's Relationship Beyond Repair (Exclusive) (https://people.com/prince-harry-prince-william-relationship-beyond-repair-exclusive-8401392)
LOL Omid thinks Harry is the 'holder' of the Crown, the Monarchy. The unofficial mouthpiece is as dilusional as his bosses.
IMO he doesn't belong in any board or thread in the RIF. Not even in Royal Commentator, Reporters and Authors. He was found to be lying in a court of law, he was recently as of last week literally shamed by a black Kenyan very famous journalist IN Kenya because Omid tried to get the Sussexsquad cult to gang on KCIII and Camilla red carpet walk over grass and dirt. The black Kenyan journalist told him that the government does this to ALL VIPS visiting the country, boom. Then Omid said I have experience and tour with the royals, the Kenyan asked him to list the tours. Harry and Meghan tours. The Kenyan then posted a picture of Harry and Meghan walking a red carpet over grass/dirt. Boom.
My elder daughter and I will be buying Omid?s book on our Kindles over the next few days and will be interested in reading positive things about this couple not a load of negativity and lies like Lady CC?s books or Bower whose avowed focus was to ?ftry to diminish Harry and Meghan?. Well, he didn?t succeed except in showing his bias and hat*red towards two people he?s never met.
Scobie on Twitter about the Kenyan red carpet.
https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1720410214229516787?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
And I agree with him. When Harry and Meghan visited Aus and on their later African trip there were dozens of occasions were they were walking on soil not red carpets, which look more than faintly ridiculous in circumstances like those with Charles and Camilla, a bit like that neo colonial Range Rover ride that made William and Kate look so out of date on the Caribbean tour. In Aus there was no red carpet for the Charles and Diana visit to Ayers Rock. Aussies would have laughed hysterically if anything like that had been suggested. And PM Albanese is not exactly chomping at the bit for a visit from King Charles in 2024 or for a visit from the rest of them either!
Royals face NEW bombshells from Sussexes just hours after the King and Prince Harry 'spoke on phone' to mark Charles's 75th birthday - as book by (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12752611/king-charles-prince-harry-speak-duke-duchess-sussex-monarch-happy-birthday.html)
Meghan urged Harry to answer phone and he accepted the call 'just before it stopped' - how Omid Scobie says prince learned from his father Charles (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12753847/Meghan-urged-Harry-answer-phone-accepted-call-just-stopped-Omid-Scobie-says-prince-learned-father-Charles-Queen-dying.html)
Princess Eugenie contacted Prince Harry in the hours before the Queen's death for more information on her condition, royal biographer claims | Daily (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12753393/Princess-Eugenie-contacted-Prince-Harry-hours-Queens-death-information-condition-royal-biographer-claims.html)
'No going back' for William and Harry: Omid Scobie's claims in full - from Duke being 'kept in dark' about Queen's death, to brothers' bond broken (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12752807/Prince-Harry-kept-dark-Queens-health-hours-died-Harry-Meghans-biographer-Omid-Scobie-claims-new-book.html)
Prince Harry ?Completely by Himself? amid Queen Elizabeth?s Death (https://people.com/prince-harry-completely-by-himself-amid-queen-elizabeth-s-death-8401431)
Prince Harry and King Charles Are Still Speaking (Exclusive) (https://people.com/prince-harry-king-charles-still-speaking-willingness-there-endgame-exclusive-8401908)
Prince Harry 'kept in dark' over Queen's death in final hours - royal author | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835428/prince-harry-meghan-markle-queen-death-omid-scobie)
Inside Meghan Markle's ban from Queen deathbed - 'She knew she wasn't wanted' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835425/meghan-markle-queen-death-uninvited)
Family only not spouse
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry biographer steals Princess Kate's thunder on crucial day | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835406/meghan-markle-prince-harry-omid-scobie-princess-kate)
Bloody idiot!! Omid stole Princess Kate?s big day unbelievable
How dare of Omid tell all about royals family unbelievable of his explosive tell all books of royals im wishes Omid need kept their mouth shut up!! 🤐
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The bombshell is at age 97 looking super frail, the duo said NO twice to visit her. But that doesn't fit the Sussex narrative.
Six royal bombshells from new book - 'Harry's sad plea, Meghan snub and dying Queen's wish ignored' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/six-royal-bombshells-new-book-31444372)
Inside true state of William and Harry's relationship now - 'betrayal, brainwashing, ignored texts' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/inside-true-state-william-harrys-31446489)
Princess Eugenie's devastating plea to Prince Harry as Queen lay dying - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/princess-eugenies-devastating-plea-prince-31446255)
Prince Harry not told of Queen's death by the Royal Family as how he found out revealed - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/prince-harry-not-told-queens-31444779)
Prince William's brutal one-word response after Harry quit Royal Family - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-williams-brutal-one-word-31444807)
Who is Omid Scobie? Riddle of royal author from true age to how he really became Meghan's mouthpiece - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/who-omid-scobie-riddle-royal-31444335)
King Charles 'betrayed late Queen's wishes by failing to tell Prince Harry of her death' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/breaking-king-charles-betrayed-late-31444271)
Meghan Markle's biographer steals Kate Middleton's thunder with new royal book release - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/meghan-markles-biographer-steals-kate-31444422)
Prince William's 'heartbreaking act that devastated Harry on day Queen died' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-williams-heartbreaking-act-devastated-31446049)
Prince Harry's desperate plea to Charles as he rushed to see dying Queen - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harrys-desperate-plea-charles-31445735)
Real reason Meghan Markle was banned from Queen's deathbed revealed - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/real-reason-meghan-markle-banned-31445215)
Family only but not send Catherine and Meghan to Balmoral but late Queen Elizabeth allowed her four children,Sophie and grandchildren to Balmoral Castle no great grandchildren nor spouse when Queen Elizabeth?s last breath and died
Meghan was 'kept away from Queen's deathbed using protocol excuse' & Harry's messages were 'ignored on day she died' | (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24746132/william-ignored-harry-queen-died-charles-protocol-meghan/)
'No going back' for Prince William and Harry as Wills views his brother as a 'defector', Omid Scobie claims in Endgame | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24745327/prince-william-harry-wills-brother-defector-omid-scobie/)
Quote from: wannable on November 15, 2023, 09:51:44 PM
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Who, including me, has stated that no red carpet was ever set out for the Sussexes? That photo was taken in Fiji on a ceremonial occasion when Harry and Meghan were touring. Harry?s wearing his medals, Meghan a hat. There are formal occasions and there are others and the Charles and Camilla occasion was informal, no dress ups, no medals, no formal wear, and therefore that occasion was inappropriate for red carpets.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry biographer steals Princess Kate's thunder on crucial day | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835406/meghan-markle-prince-harry-omid-scobie-princess-kate)
Oh, so because Kate is making some forgettable speech about early childhood, the rest of the world has to stop :sarcastic:
Pink had better cancel her tour, and Taylor Swift, Queensland fire fighters here had better go off duty and not worry about bush fires in a heat wave. No speech should be made here today about released asylum seekers. (Because this speech of Kate?s is so world shattering. World shatteringly boring more like!) And the Pres Biden and Xi meeting had better be postponed indefinitely!
Er, newsflash. That serialisation that the British media are making a lot of noise about is in US ?People? magazine, not even the same time zone as London. And strange isn?t it that rather than carrying on about Kate?s speech, the British media, between yawns, concentrates on her clothing and accessories and then goes back to what Scobie has written about Harry and Meghan.
I think there is plenty of room in the world for Catherine and the mouth piece of the so called non royals in Ca to be on the front page of any newspaper. And goodness gracious why bring people and issues into this situation that has nothing to do with it.......just a way to cause trouble, drama and made up stories again.
Harry is fighting a losing war with the monarchy.....he will not win just as Edward and Wallis did not win either as at least they had the sense and dignity to live their lives as they pleased without being mean and hateful. Harry still has not learned a darn thing about being a normal citizen of any country, he just shouts, yells and speak from anger and emotionally uncontrolled feelings of rage still trying to get what, a response from the firm/monarchy that will never come....he is really fighting a lossing battle here even when his mouth piece Omid speaks for him.
Catherine did well, it is a cause she has had since the beginning and that I believe comes from her own childhood with loving parents....not all child can have that yet there can be positive influences to help along the way to adulthood.
Okay, so Omid has a book out about the royals, did he actually live with the royals get all his info or is most of this made up by * I spoke to a source* so my question is who is next in the camp of the Susses's to write a book.........so what news has Omid going to say this time, could it be what brand of toilet paper the royals use, or is their sheets all cotton, or who finally is the one that ask that question about skin color? Or will Meghan finally have her say to make millions off a book?
Scobie's new book...just consider the source. :shrug: I've read the People magazine excerpt and it's just as I expected it would be.
I don't expect a response from the BRF. :Jen: :windsor1: :royalsneeze:
I considered the source after reading books on the royals by Diana-loather Penny Junor, Angela Levin, Tom Bower and Lady CC after they wrote books on Harry and the Sussexes as well. And their books were just as I expected them to be. Full of loathing, criticism, negativity, half truths and twisted facts about the principals they were writing about. And in many cases whole books about people whom the authors had never met.
Quote from: TLLK on November 16, 2023, 03:04:01 AM
Scobie's new book...just consider the source. :shrug: I've read the People magazine excerpt and it's just as I expected it would be.
I don't expect a response from the BRF. :Jen: :windsor1: :royalsneeze:
Thank you for that suggestion, I will consider the source for sure. After all this book is just something for the author and his employers to make money off, nothing else. The same for the next book, a money making oppertunity is all. I just expect the same ole crap out of their mouths from any of their employees or associates yet it is a tell tell sign that things will never change with them and they are still in the self pity mod of their lives. Oh well, at least the royal family has moved on and does the job expected of them....without bad mouthing anyone or being mean and hateful. I like seeing the ole timers of HM's time....sad the Duke of Kent has medical issues now.
Catherine Meyer Funnell is an apprentice, she is an 'online' royal reporter for The Express. Her resume/work experience is 1 year 9 months with the Express as their ''online'' reporter, start date: February 2022. Her first court circular live with the royal rota press pen was The Coronation. The Express website says if you have any royal story to contact her email.
Secondly Paperboy yesterday had Catherine as the ''main news'' front page, under her big square was two little squares; one for Omid the other for Zara Tindall, under those two little squares was another smaller square to Beatrice Mapelli Mozzi.
People Magazine has transitioned into an Online magazine, ''anyone'' can email them with news - IF they find interest - they will publish and pay the individual. 90% of their news is online generated. This is the new economy.
Quote from: TLLK on November 16, 2023, 03:04:01 AM
Scobie's new book...just consider the source. :shrug: I've read the People magazine excerpt and it's just as I expected it would be.
I don't expect a response from the BRF. :Jen: :windsor1: :royalsneeze:
That is why I purposely commented yesterday about the ''bombshell'' is a 97 year old grandmother who was ''super frail'' who invited the duo twice and they said NO.
Omid claims H&M were in the 'dark'. So he literally is stating that the duo are not aware like a majority of adults and most children when SEEING a NINETY SEVEN (97) year old grandmother be it directly as a family member via zoom as the duo claim or as citizens of the world like us via pictures in the media that she is VERY OLD! There will be many Omid quotes that will backfire, it's going to come-back to him and to Meghan and Harry. BUT this is what they like, be in the news, create a soap drama as they've turned themselves into Z listers.
Now Harry and Meghan 'distance themselves from Omid Scobie's new book': Sources close to Sussexes deny they were involved in biography after extract (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12757199/harry-meghan-distance-omid-scobie-new-book-sussexes-not-involved-biography.html)
Now Omid Scobie, 42, denies new book Endgame is 'Harry and Meghan's' and is rather about the 'current state of the Royal Family'... hours after (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12759337/omid-scobie-new-book-endgame-prince-harry-meghan-royal-family.html)
Spare vs Endgame: How Prince Harry's tell-all memoir and Omid Scobie's bombshell new biography about the Sussexes recount the historic day of the late (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12757675/Spare-vs-Endgame-Prince-Harrys-tell-memoir-Omid-Scobies-bombshell-new-biography-Sussexes-recount-historic-day-late-Queens-death.html)
Courtiers 'are furious' as new Prince Harry biography reveals Royal Family secrets from the day the Queen died: Insiders slam book by Sussex (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12754993/Royal-insiders-Harry-Meghan-Omid-Scobies-claims-Prince-William-Queen-King-Charles-75th-birthday.html)
Meghan Markle Has 'Moved On' from the Royals (Exclusive) (https://people.com/meghan-markle-moved-on-royals-endgame-exclusive-8402173)
Prince Harry 'ready to move past' royal feud but Prince William 'refuses to talk' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835832/prince-harry-william-royal-book-omid-scobie)
William,Prince of Wales will not comment on tell all books what said on Harry?s tell all book last January 2023 it?s private matter and it?s private business not without consent or permission from Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle blasted for 'deplorable' timing of scathing new book | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835730/prince-harry-meghan-markle-new-book-leak-omid-scobie)
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's pal accuses Royal Family of creating 'scandals' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835862/prince-harry-meghan-markle-omid-scobie-royal-family-the-crown)
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-11-16/no-going-back-for-william-and-harry-royal-writer-omid-scobie-says
Royal fury at book revelations about Prince Harry and William's feud as Queen lay dying - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/royal-fury-book-revelations-prince-31449875)
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle seen as 'irritating noise' by palace staff, claims biographer - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-meghan-markle-seen-31457912)
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Meghan Markle and Prince Harry 'distance' themselves from Omid Scobie's Endgame after explosive Queen deathbed claims | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24762787/meghan-markle-prince-harry-distance-omid-scobies-endgame/)
Unbelievable that Harry and Meghan will use the death of his grandmother to make money through their mouth piece Omid......that is just plain sickening and desperate of them. I believe Omid got all this info about HM's death from who else, Harry and Meghan as they were there and have now reported the events and the situation to suit themselves as victims *again*. Unbelievable cruel, mean and hateful jealous egos of Harry and Meghan........there is NO Way in hell they will ever be allowed back in the family.
Meghan and Harry officially denying Omid is foolish rather than just owning it. Either way the couple have trapped themselves.
The extract of H writing a text message to W and not receiving a reply is the give away, revealing the identity of the collaborator. Omid has exposed the couple. The Sussex spokesperson denying Omid also exposed H. What is he going to do? Sue Omid for phone hacking? :hehe:
The trio have reached at comical and pathetic levels. It's like the last grift money grubbing. (He's at large/at liberty - meaning submitting a work and IF accepted you get paid rather than employed now in HB)
Quote from: Nightowl on November 17, 2023, 11:04:55 PM
Unbelievable that Harry and Meghan will use the death of his grandmother to make money through their mouth piece Omid......that is just plain sickening and desperate of them. I believe Omid got all this info about HM's death from who else, Harry and Meghan as they were there and have now reported the events and the situation to suit themselves as victims *again*. Unbelievable cruel, mean and hateful jealous egos of Harry and Meghan........there is NO Way in hell they will ever be allowed back in the family.
Why would the Sussexes be making money from Omid Scobie?s book? He is the author of ?EndGame?, no-one else. And why is Scobie regarded as a mouthpiece for the Sussexes and the authors of books and articles attacking or criticising Harry, such as Richard Kay, Tom Bower, Lady CC, Angela Levin, Penny Junor etc, Neil Sean, etc etc several of them quite close to royals like William and Charles, not regarded as mouthpieces of the BRF? They don?t have bias or an agenda I suppose, nor make money from those they write about in book sales or clickbait?
Nobody has read Scobie?s full book yet, it?s not yet been released. And judging by the chapter headings which have been released, three quarters of the book is about the RF, the King and how the monarchy operates today. Maybe one quarter is about the Sussexes, but nobody knows or will know until the book?s release. I and one of my daughters will be buying and I will then find out for myself, without looking through the lens of the British media.
The price is going down, I'd wait until its charity price. Free via audio, for 1 week IF one can muster to bing listen before being charged in 5 days.
Quote from: wannable on November 17, 2023, 11:57:15 PM
Meghan and Harry officially denying Omid is foolish rather than just owning it. Either way the couple have trapped themselves.
The extract of H writing a text message to W and not receiving a reply is the give away, revealing the identity of the collaborator. Omid has exposed the couple. The Sussex spokesperson denying Omid also exposed H. What is he going to do? Sue Omid for phone hacking? :hehe:
The trio have reached at comical and pathetic levels. It's like the last grift money grubbing. (He's at large/at liberty - meaning submitting a work and IF accepted you get paid rather than employed now in HB)
Harry wrote in ?Spare? that he texted William about getting up to Balmoral but received no response.
Double whammy, H hacked himself.
Usually the 'best extract' is the most exiting gossip in a book. That's Omid's best. The rest must be M and H angry with the C, C, W and C interpreted by Omid who also lied in a court of law - I bet my bottom dollar. Yawn.
Watch in the coming weeks the media analysing the Victimhood 12.0 version
Quote from: wannable on November 18, 2023, 12:03:38 AM
Double whammy, H hacked himself.
Usually the 'best extract' is the most exiting gossip in a book. That's Omid's best. The rest must be M and H angry with the C, C, W and C interpreted by Omid who also lied in a court of law - I bet my bottom dollar. Yawn.
Well there was plenty to yawn about in Bower?s book and Lady CC?s not to mention Junor?s book about Camilla that practically came out of C?s own mouth to judge from the content. And plenty of people ?lie in a court of law? in civil cases. It?s up to the judge and jury to sum up who they believe in total. And Meghan won her case.
I disagree, they weren't fan fiction books. The best books are the challenging books with footnotes and easy to trace sources that eventually comes out to be true. Many of Lady C's claims were later replicated by authors that you like, just saying. Everyone knows Omid's book is from M and H anger vision - all of it, he's just interpreting the anger, madness too.
i.e. Book sleuths have seen publishing date of Lady C earlier at least 1 year other instances vs other authors even 2 or more years, then publishing date of authors you may like with stolen information from the originator - only two authors were polite to acknowledge her as the originator. She has real access then and yet today like her or not - she is also a youtuber and has posted her own party pictures with aristocrats. The other one is River, his access is with the gay cousin of the King, he said he has permission from the gay cousin to announce it in his channel. This in not only in one item, but more like 200 plus passages (Lady C books that have been stolen by other authors). As I said a few months ago there are several Book historians, book nerds who have their Youtube channel and open books in their video to show and tell, compare and contrast, you name it. They show the publishing dates, extracts, everything. Technology today - can't lie, can't hide, can't etc.
Lady CC has lied about members of the BRF in her books and always has. She?s a gossip raker from London dinner parties, and no aristocrat. And what photos has she ever produced of herself relaxing in royal surrounds with any senior royal? The Queen, Prince Philip, Charles, Harry, William, Anne, etc. None!
Lord Ivar has Edward as his child?s godfather and that?s it! Big deal. Edward is the most discreet of men and would hardly be trading anything but pleasantries with people outside the RF let alone Lord Ivar or Lady CC!
Just because you have a title and are a distant relative doesn?t mean you instantly know everything that goes on in the inner reaches of the RF.
If by ?gay cousin of King Charles? you mean Lord Ivar Mountbatten he is NOT King Charles?s first cousin. He is on the outer rankings of the extended family. He is not royal, he does not mix regularly with members of the RF, has never been on the balcony at BP, and it?s doubtful that he has spoken to Charles or indeed any senior royal about anything significant for years. No royal appeared at his second, same-sex wedding. Not even Edward!
Ivar is merely a younger grandson of the older of Prince Philip?s uncles. His grandfather George died when Philip was a boy, long before WW2. Any info he has wouldn?t be insider truths about anything. It would be the sort of insider gossip that invariably swirls around everyone, royal or not, at London dinner parties.
And yet you like authors who have stolen information from her - hasn't been sued/she also hasn't sued these other authors (she has spoken about it in her channel because commentators have signaled her to those historian channels that have discussed her book, her publishing date as the first vs others) - none of the ones you have mentioned. I wouldn't know who the gay cousin he is referring to - just that this person exists - he hasn't been sued either. River did show some pointers of his close contact and reach with let's call it circles. Not so close as Lady C's but he does have it too, probably to a lesser degree, more like in Norfolk.
But you defend Omid who lied in a court of law because basically he is a super friend of the Sussexes. His extracts have been proven to be a lie, fictional or exposing intentionally or not Meghan and Harry with super easy traceable who is who. That is why I said it's foolish from the Sussex team to officially deny him at this point.
But okay.
Signing off, going to a Vegas F1 party. :happy20:
Quote from: wannable on November 16, 2023, 12:59:27 PM
That is why I purposely commented yesterday about the ''bombshell'' is a 97 year old grandmother who was ''super frail'' who invited the duo twice and they said NO.
Omid claims H&M were in the 'dark'. So he literally is stating that the duo are not aware like a majority of adults and most children when SEEING a NINETY SEVEN (97) year old grandmother be it directly as a family member via zoom as the duo claim or as citizens of the world like us via pictures in the media that she is VERY OLD! There will be many Omid quotes that will backfire, it's going to come-back to him and to Meghan and Harry. BUT this is what they like, be in the news, create a soap drama as they've turned themselves into Z listers.
Yes, I have to agree. I don't think anyone expected the late Queen to pass quite when she did, but she was 96 and it had been obvious for several months prior that she was declining. If seeing his grandmother was truly important to Harry, he should have realized he wouldn't have many more opportunities and should have taken the time to visit her that summer.
Quote from: wannable on November 18, 2023, 12:50:23 AM
And yet you like authors who have stolen information from her - hasn't been sued - none of the ones you have mentioned. I wouldn't know who the gay cousin he is referring to - just that this person exists - he hasn't been sued either.
But you defend Omid who lied in a court of law because basically he is a super friend of the Sussexes. His extracts have been proven to be a lie, fictional or exposing intentionally or not Meghan and Harry with super easy traceable who is who. That is why I said it's foolish from the Sussex team to officially deny him at this point.
But okay.
If there are dozens of people writing about one couple in nasty, supercilious, rude and derogatory terms in newspapers and books every year I would naturally be on the side of the couple. Simply because I have a very strong sense of justice, born of years of fighting bureaucracies and the establishment on their behalf as a social worker. I don?t believe in hundreds dog-rolling on one or two people (especially a couple who have been lied about by journalists (never the most truthful of professions) since before their engagement. And that is especially so with regard to someone are saw grow up who was bereaved of his mother at eleven years old as I was. And I can say from experience that no one gets over losing their mother when they are very young. No-one.
I haven?t changed my mind about any of those authors nor about Harry or Meghan.
With his Chanel skis and five-star celebrity lifestyle has Harry and Meghan's cheerleader-in-chief Omid Scobie become even more regal than them? | (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12763659/With-Chanel-skis-five-star-celebrity-lifestyle-Harry-Meghans-cheerleader-chief-Omid-Scobie-regal-them.html)
All these books over time are just really money making opportunities for authors and book companies. Some are really full of junk and lies and made up stories while some do tell of lives of royals in a positive way.
As we have all seen that Meghan tells LIES, that is a FACT as was shown from her mouth, Harry the same and what really gets me is that H/M were are the funeral of HM so Omid had the perfect source for his books and with the media saying now that the Sussex's are backing way from the book is a tell tell sign of LIES by them. I am sure there will be *another book* out in a year or two, Meghan has yet to publish her diaries that she kept while in the royal family. So be prepared for that, besides money which I bet the Sussez's will get a share of Omid's profits somehow and this is also a way of keeping the Sussex's so desperately in the news so that it will seem like they are still part of the royal family.....they NEED the royal family to make money and the royal family has NO NEED of them.....the Sussex's are not very careful in what they put out to the world as it is getting harder and harder for them to be seen as a positive example of people doing good deeds........so I ask .....what good deeds are the Sussex's doing lately, like in the last week .........oh, Meghan went shopping with a friend! Yep, I am being snippy now..
Quote from: Curryong on November 17, 2023, 11:59:49 PM
Why would the Sussexes be making money from Omid Scobie?s book? He is the author of ?EndGame?, no-one else. And why is Scobie regarded as a mouthpiece for the Sussexes and the authors of books and articles attacking or criticising Harry, such as Richard Kay, Tom Bower, Lady CC, Angela Levin, Penny Junor etc, Neil Sean, etc etc several of them quite close to royals like William and Charles, not regarded as mouthpieces of the BRF? They don?t have bias or an agenda I suppose, nor make money from those they write about in book sales or clickbait?
Nobody has read Scobie?s full book yet, it?s not yet been released. And judging by the chapter headings which have been released, three quarters of the book is about the RF, the King and how the monarchy operates today. Maybe one quarter is about the Sussexes, but nobody knows or will know until the book?s release. I and one of my daughters will be buying and I will then find out for myself, without looking through the lens of the British media.
We all know that Omid is the mouth piece for the Sussex's, that is a given, a fact! We are *all* judging by the snips from Omid's book that was released, not the full book as you well know. And everyone who is a royal fan read, saw tons of pictures of the Sussex's at HM's funereal so Omid has his source righ there. I am not going to argue with you about the Sussex's for the world has seen and read about them and their LIES from years now, this will never end as that is all they have going for themselves, their only source of income is telling LIES about Harry's family, that is how they make their money to support their lifestyle, that is a FACT. That bank account will run dry with Meghan spending $4 or 5 thousand on a single piece of clothing and please do not compare other royals to Meghan as Meghan is NOT a royal. Other royals wear expensive clothes also yet they WORK for the monarchy, Meghan does not WORK, she is a housewife with servants I would think. Just like most Hollywood rich wives.
Quote from: Curryong at 04:06:44 AM
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If there are dozens of people writing about one couple in nasty, supercilious, rude and derogatory terms in newspapers and books every year I would naturally be on the side of the couple. Simply because I have a very strong sense of justice, born of years of fighting bureaucracies and the establishment on their behalf as a social worker. I don?t believe in hundreds dog-rolling on one or two people (especially a couple who have been lied about by journalists (never the most truthful of professions) since before their engagement. And that is especially so with regard to someone are saw grow up who was bereaved of his mother at eleven years old as I was. And I can say from experience that no one gets over losing their mother when they are very young. No-one.
I haven?t changed my mind about any of those authors nor about Harry or Meghan.
All social workers know that legally He is responsible for his own wellbeing and his wife to him, vice versa the day they married. Due to the 'actions factually carried out by the couple' i.e. making moneys trashing H family (and to a lesser extent her family) - all social workers know that Meghan or someone is practicing GRIEF TRIGGERING (bad) to Harry (I'm biting your empathy towards a middle age Harry who lost his mother at age 11 - bereavement forever) rather than the BEREAVEMENT METHODOLOGY to cope with it - William (he spoke about it, silver lining)
Harry's condition described by himself; alcohol and hard and soft drugs and said he will forever take psychedelic illegal drugs - excluding the grief triggering whoever the bad person doing it to him - psychology and psychiatry documents available in the worldwide web indicate that the person in question should be in a Rehab center if the person want's a chance in life. I will add that there IS strong rumors H wants to come back home voluntarilly - this should be conditioned if he wants a chance in life to be free from alcohol, drugs and grief triggering.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on November 18, 2023, 01:04:55 AM
Yes, I have to agree. I don't think anyone expected the late Queen to pass quite when she did, but she was 96 and it had been obvious for several months prior that she was declining. If seeing his grandmother was truly important to Harry, he should have realized he wouldn't have many more opportunities and should have taken the time to visit her that summer.
Here here. I only used 2022 snub. There are thousands of people mentioning it via comments under the People magazine Omid Scobie extract with screenshot details of denying the late Queen invitation to visit her - following the couple's condition of them alone and only them - to end up saying NO to her for FOUR years. Terrible, how did Harry end up like this? My comment above. Anyway, 4 years or just last year - ''grandparents'' should be visited as much as possible because they are in the 'sunset' of their lives. It's basic 101. The way Omid describes it - unwillingly he is saying the couple are dense?!
Quote from: wannable on November 18, 2023, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: Curryong at 04:06:44 AM
All social workers know that legally He is responsible for his own wellbeing and his wife to him, vice versa the day they married. Due to the 'actions factually carried out by the couple' i.e. making moneys trashing H family (and to a lesser extent her family) - all social workers know that Meghan or someone is practicing GRIEF TRIGGERING (bad) to Harry (I'm biting your empathy towards a middle age Harry who lost his mother at age 11 - bereavement forever) rather than the BEREAVEMENT METHODOLOGY to cope with it - William (he spoke about it, silver lining)
Harry's condition described by himself; alcohol and hard and soft drugs and said he will forever take psychedelic illegal drugs - excluding the grief triggering whoever the bad person doing it to him - psychology and psychiatry documents available in the worldwide web indicate that the person in question should be in a Rehab center if the person want's a chance in life. I will add that there IS strong rumors H wants to come back home voluntarilly - this should be conditioned if he wants a chance in life to be free from alcohol, drugs and grief triggering.
The trashing of Grief triggering is a circle, in the middle is his Mother, whispering in his ear that people in that circle with mom in the center are someway responsible - use all the instances that she did in life - point a finger blaming targets, she's a saint with no wrongdoing of her own, then confirming the bereaved individual that you are talking to his mom and the ghost said 'you are doing the right thing. 👻
Quote from: Nightowl on November 17, 2023, 11:04:55 PM
Unbelievable that Harry and Meghan will use the death of his grandmother to make money through their mouth piece Omid......that is just plain sickening and desperate of them. I believe Omid got all this info about HM's death from who else, Harry and Meghan as they were there and have now reported the events and the situation to suit themselves as victims *again*. Unbelievable cruel, mean and hateful jealous egos of Harry and Meghan........there is NO Way in hell they will ever be allowed back in the family.
I?m agreed with you but it?s private for royal family not Omid Scobie?s business but Sussex and Omid been tell all about late Queen Elizabeth?s death but King Charles will not allowed Sussex invite royal events according to daily mail and Express said
Harry and Meghan are still not welcome at family events, says RICHARD EDEN. And colourful leaks from a private conversation with King Charles might (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12757381/EDEN-colourful-leaks-private-conversation-Charleslp.html)
Prince Harry and Meghan 'still not welcome' at royal events after 'private chat leaks' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1835955/prince-harry-meghan-welcome-chat-leaks)
Meghan Markle told King Charles there are TWO 'royal racists' who spoke about her son Archie's skin colour - and Harry asked his father: 'Don't you (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12788987/meghan-markle-claims-two-royal-racists-son-archie-skin-colour-book-omid-scobie-harry-king-charles-revelations.html)
Royals hit by fresh Sussex bombshells in Omid Scobie book: Couple's 'cheerleader in chief' reveals Harry is 'ready to forget' family row but Meghan (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12787199/royals-sussex-bombshell-harry-meghan-kate-william-christmas-kids.html)
Sussexes' 'cheerleader in chief' Omid Scobie claims William 'kept him away from royal engagements for months' as he believed he was Prince Harry's (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12788137/Sussexes-cheerleader-chief-Omid-Scobie-claims-William-kept-away-royal-engagements-months-believed-Prince-Harrys-emissary-release-bombshell-biography-Finding-Freedom.html)
Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle's 'lack of communication' during the 'fab four' reunion the day after the Queen's death made for a 'silent' car (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12787439/Kate-Middleton-Meghan-Markles-lack-communication-fab-four-reunion-day-Queens-death-silent-car-journey-joint-Windsor-appearance-bombshell-book-claims.html)
Well I hope that the royal family will now finally realize that the *Endgame* is finally the nail in the coffin for Harry and Meghan regardless of whether they had anything to do with the book as Omid was not living in the royal family nor at the funeral of HM, so all this has to come from the mouths of Harry and Meghan again regardless of what it is. They just do not know how to shut the hell up and be quiet do they?
If Charles doesn't get it now he never will and it will fall to William to kick them out of the royal family finally for good. There is NO way to ever TRUST these to again. This all falls on Harry and Meghan, the royal family has not said one word about them at all........they have *empty titles* now, they mean nothing to the monarchy so Meghan will continue to walk the red carpet of Hollywood being nothing but a shadow of what she could of been while Harry will ride more ponies and play at being important to the sports world. All the while the real work is being done by those that are loyal to the country and the monarchy across the pond.
Quote from: Nightowl on November 25, 2023, 04:08:56 AM
Well I hope that the royal family will now finally realize that the *Endgame* is finally the nail in the coffin for Harry and Meghan regardless of whether they had anything to do with the book as Omid was not living in the royal family nor at the funeral of HM, so all this has to come from the mouths of Harry and Meghan again regardless of what it is. They just do not know how to shut the hell up and be quiet do they?
If Charles doesn't get it now he never will and it will fall to William to kick them out of the royal family finally for good. There is NO way to ever TRUST these to again. This all falls on Harry and Meghan, the royal family has not said one word about them at all........they have *empty titles* now, they mean nothing to the monarchy so Meghan will continue to walk the red carpet of Hollywood being nothing but a shadow of what she could of been while Harry will ride more ponies and play at being important to the sports world. All the while the real work is being done by those that are loyal to the country and the monarchy across the pond.
It will be Omid's own endgame. It's another crybaby, whining fest Version 12.0 adding more quantity of the same same.
Quote from: sara8150 on November 25, 2023, 02:02:35 AM
Meghan Markle told King Charles there are TWO 'royal racists' who spoke about her son Archie's skin colour - and Harry asked his father: 'Don't you (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12788987/meghan-markle-claims-two-royal-racists-son-archie-skin-colour-book-omid-scobie-harry-king-charles-revelations.html)
Royals hit by fresh Sussex bombshells in Omid Scobie book: Couple's 'cheerleader in chief' reveals Harry is 'ready to forget' family row but Meghan (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12787199/royals-sussex-bombshell-harry-meghan-kate-william-christmas-kids.html)
Sussexes' 'cheerleader in chief' Omid Scobie claims William 'kept him away from royal engagements for months' as he believed he was Prince Harry's (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12788137/Sussexes-cheerleader-chief-Omid-Scobie-claims-William-kept-away-royal-engagements-months-believed-Prince-Harrys-emissary-release-bombshell-biography-Finding-Freedom.html)
Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle's 'lack of communication' during the 'fab four' reunion the day after the Queen's death made for a 'silent' car (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12787439/Kate-Middleton-Meghan-Markles-lack-communication-fab-four-reunion-day-Queens-death-silent-car-journey-joint-Windsor-appearance-bombshell-book-claims.html)
Thanks for posting the links, Sara.
But Harry has already walked back the claims that the family is racist in the Bradby interview . Sounds like the Sussexes are having trouble keeping their stories straight again.
I can't imagine any type of reconciliation under current circumstances, i.e., the Sussexes continue to attack the RF.
So Scobie claims that William kept him from covering royal engagements? While I don't trust Scobie any further than I could pick him up and throw him, I will say that sounds somewhat believable. Good for William. I think that shows the POW has good judgment and character assessment. Really, Scobie, what did you expect? If you're going to churn out lies and hatchet jobs, you shouldn't expect to remain on good terms with the RF. Nor should the Sussexes.
So Catherine wasn't very chatty during the car ride? I certainly don't blame her. See above.
This is a book from their friend.
Omid was married to, engaged to her good friend, Marcus. If not married to or engaged to, they were bf and bf, partners. This is not gossip or slander, but fact. No need to edit, warn me, etc. It is on the internet that these guys were partners, at least.
Yes Omid is friend or at least supporter to Sussex .
His book does Susssex no favors. End Game is about end game, what is the ending purpose of BRF. Ok, but it has the Sussex were done wrong in every chapter under every subject.
The Qs deathbed. Some facts or rumors or I got it wrong, so what. Henr was informed late, so what. He held up Sophie n others, unforgivable. They should not have waited.
What we do know as fact is tha Sussex issued a statement ? they? were on ? their? way and PC shut that down.
There was no reason for Megan to be there.
Henr got there when he did, oh well.
My opinion, at TheQs deathbed should have been William and her oldest, first grandchild, Peter Philips.
^^ Their racist stories back and forth, contradicting themselves; Harry to Oprah before pregnancy, Meghan during Pregnancy, Harry and Meghan the Queen and PP are not racist, the racist family didn't want to give a title to my child - then backtracking in a few seconds about the title giving rule, Harry backtracking in Spare interview, Omid two racists. Versions with extension of accusations with the subject 6.0
Omid (via H&M silent ride) intention is to ''score points'' like if at this point in time there are still people who are not even royal watchers wouldn't know that the couple SPILL everything that has to do with what I have multiple time referred as making moneys on Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine. IF William and Catherine had said something in the car ride - it would have ended up in any of the couple scheme in making moneys. Here is the proof they want to make moneys using the death of the late Queen Elizabeth II - the silent ride is more important, deluded. Why didn't Omid say anthing about the silent ride of Meghan with Sophie? She's not as important for clicks as the Monarch, the POW and their wives.
How about everybody becoming enraged over reports in the media from magazines about what Scobie is supposed to have said and didn?t say at third and fourth inaccurate hand and wait until the actual book comes out?
There already have been inaccuracies about ?Meghan reporting that TWO ROYALS made remarks about her baby?s skin colour when in fact what Scobie said was that it was two persons in the Royal Household that said such things.
And people on the Internet saying that Scobie and Markus were dating or engaged or whatever does not make it true or accurate in any sense whatsoever.
Those are extracts from his book, the majority of the people in UK, USA, Australia, Spain, France are enraged because he is a proven liar. He tweeted there is a language barrier, out of context, etc. It will just get worse for Omid when the book is out. This same type of claim was done by Penguin in reference to Spare - it only criticized the subject more when the book was out, what did it do to him? to date Harry is ruined.
There are too many extracts at the moment undeniably it had to come out from the Sussexes or someone they used in their camp. It is basically them, giving a green light to a third party to tell Omid.
It's like their Sussexes email 30 pages to Jason Knauf who was ordered to give it to Omid in Finding Freedom. :teehee:
Omid Scobie rips into 'hot-headed' Prince William in extraordinary interview and accuses him of being in 'heir mode' and driving the rift with Harry - (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12791011/Omid-Scobie-Prince-William-interview-accuses-heir-mode-driving-rift-Harry-author-insists-hes-NOT-Sussexes-payroll-ahead-release-bombshell-new-book.html)
That good for William because Omid not on payroll
Silence of the Royal sisters-in-law: Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle 'have not spoken in four years', claims Sussexes 'mouthpiece' Omid Scobie in (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12789795/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-silence-omid-scobie.html)
Since 2019 for four years
Meghan Markle told King Charles there are TWO 'royal racists' who spoke about her son Archie's skin colour - and Harry asked his father: 'Don't you (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12788987/meghan-markle-claims-two-royal-racists-son-archie-skin-colour-book-omid-scobie-harry-king-charles-revelations.html)
'Royals warned of careless talk around Harry': King Charles was 'cautious' in conversation with his second son after his bean-spilling memoir Spare... (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790289/king-charles-cautious-speaking-prince-harry-spare.html)
Princess Anne 'persuaded Charles to evict Prince Harry and Meghan from Frogmore': Bombshell claims in Omid Scobie's new book point finger at the (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12789879/princess-anne-king-charles-meghan-markle-prince-harry-eviction-frogmore-cottage.html)
The latest barrage of truth bombs from Harry and Meghan's 'mouthpiece'... until Tuesday: Every claim from sneak peek of Omid Scobie's new book ahead (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790041/prince-harry-meghan-markle-omid-scobie-endgame-book.html)
Omid Scobie's warning about Endgame book translations ahead of release | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839090/omid-scobie-warning-about-endgame-book-translations-ahead-of-release-royal-family)
Meghan Markle 'accused two people of discussing baby's skin colour' bombshell book claims | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1838872/meghan-markle-prince-archie-accusations)
Meghan Markle named two members of the Royal Family who were 'racist about Archie' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/meghan-markle-named-two-members-31524297)
Meghan Markle claims there are TWO ?royal racists? who discussed Archie?s skin colour, according to bombshell book | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24850401/meghan-markle-two-racists-archie-skin-colour/)
Be what it may, this is all about the Sussex's wanting to be still seen as *Being seen in the royal family*......they NEED this connection to the royal family desperately to make money and be seen in the news, to is free publicity for them regardless of whether it is negative or postive images. The more drama, the more lies is all they can do as that is all they are about.
Quote from: Nightowl on November 25, 2023, 11:17:44 PM
Be what it may, this is all about the Sussex's wanting to be still seen as *Being seen in the royal family*......they NEED this connection to the royal family desperately to make money and be seen in the news, to is free publicity for them regardless of whether it is negative or postive images. The more drama, the more lies is all they can do as that is all they are about.
Yes, I agree. None of their other projects make the big money like playing up royal connections.
Another interesting thing--when QEll was alive, the Sussexes never directly badmouthed her. Charles and William were the bad guys, while H and M always talked about how they respected the Queen, how they kept in contact with her, etc., etc.. Now that Charles is king, it seems like they might be trying to repair their relationship with him, while still painting William-and perhaps Anne now as well--as villains.
And the description Omid gives out about Catherine seems like a reversal of Meghan.
Wet blanket a person who spoils other people's fun by failing to join in with or by disapproving of their activities.
Infantilized treat (someone) as a child or in a way which denies their maturity in age or experience
In both word descriptions of Catherine, Omid Sunday Times description today released at 6 p.m. California time (he ran off to his new home at the Hollywood Hills area) the author of the Sunday Times Article also describes Omid is about to cry, tears because the UK dislike him so badly - of her is misogynistic - he trashes her really really bad, Camilla too. Catherine is jealous of Meghan. The Princess of Wales, UK's future Queen and Queen Mother is jealous of Meghan. :wacko:
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The House of Windsor is crumbling. The King is an unpopular stick-in-the-mud. The Queen is a ruthless operator. The Prince of Wales is a power-hungry schemer. The Princess of Wales is a wet blanket who really didn't want to appear on Blue Peter. The Duchess of Sussex and her husband? All fine and dandy, with a bright future before them.
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''I'm very aware that I'm quite disliked in Britain. The way anything about me is said is as if I'm just the absolute worst person,'' he tells me later. Tears appear in his eyes and I feel genuinely sorry for him.
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''I have mutual friends with [Meghan], and that definitely helps with getting information and breaking details,'' he says, but, no, he's not on the Sussex payroll.
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''The small achievements that we've seen from the Princess of Wales wouldn't perhaps be noticed if it was from another member of the royal family
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Part of the Waleses' strategy now, Scobie says, is to take Harry and Meghan on at their own game and focus on winning over the US. More trips, more press.
The Waleses court circular works according to Omid is to take down Harry and Meghan. He belittles them the most, followed by Charles and Camilla, then Anne. At least the threesome KNOW that the POW's are way more popular than them, then the President and other politicians, including the Obamas. They are angry and ouch ouch ouch because of the latest USA Poll.
Narcissist and deluded like his bosses?!
and on and on in his ripping the BRF in the Sunday Times. Be prepared, he mauls them all in his book so badly I think that is why he crossed the pond.
This is the funniest one though
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Another damaging assertion is the apparently growing chasm between the King and his eldest son, who is in 'heir mode'. Prince William, 41, 'knows his father's reign is only transitional,? Scobie writes, 'and is acting accordingly.'
William is acting, the reality is his father and him are in a growing 'chasm' - splitsville.
As I said in my earliest comment about the book, he is writing the 'anger' of the Sussexes, madness included. I read the 'chasm' and it's the reversal rather of Harry's situation with Charles.
I hit the nail when I said that it would be angry and madness. He typed away the real feelings of both Meghan and Harry. You read quotes like the above and :wacko:
What I mean by the *Endgame* was not for Omid ( well he is ended anyhow now and has been by the royal family) it was the End for Harry and Meghan to even think they could go back to the royal family, yet we can't count out Meghan and her book even though there is no talk of it or any info about it, remember she kept dairies about her time in the royal family and oh what they could tell, so after this book dies down I see that one by Meghan taking place.....remember this is Harry's family that he is rageful at still and he will never, just NEVER give up his ego to get what he wants and frankly I don't think he even knows at this point what that is. If he thought he could be what, co-king with William he is really delusional for he knows as a child the throne always goes to the heir period. I seriously think that all the hard, soft drugs he has done and I bet still does some has made him seriously paranoid about himself and the royal family. He seems to have moments of being sane yet they are becoming fewer and fewer as time goes on......it really is just a matter of time before he crashes and hits bottom and as I have said before it won't be pretty.
Quote from: wannable on November 26, 2023, 02:54:23 AM
And the description Omid gives out about Catherine seems like a reversal of Meghan.
Wet blanket a person who spoils other people's fun by failing to join in with or by disapproving of their activities.
Infantilized treat (someone) as a child or in a way which denies their maturity in age or experience
In both word descriptions of Catherine, Omid Sunday Times description today released at 6 p.m. California time (he ran off to his new home at the Hollywood Hills area) the author of the Sunday Times Article also describes Omid is about to cry, tears because the UK dislike him so badly - of her is misogynistic - he trashes her really really bad, Camilla too. Catherine is jealous of Meghan. The Princess of Wales, UK's future Queen and Queen Mother is jealous of Meghan. :wacko:
And if that is true in the books, better believe Harry is done for in William's eyes forever....Harry will never get anywhere near this family again.......and Charles love for his wife, Camilla, I would like to think being married the wife comes first in a husband's life, Charles waited a lifetime to marry Camilla whom he has loved forever it seems like.
NO fences will ever be mended this time around for darn sure.
Oh yes Catherine is jealous of what.....Meghan sitting in her 14 bathroom house in Ca doing what? Yea, right, Catherine is a Princess now, by Charles, she is the Princess of Wales and future queen and queen mother as her son will be king someday very far off into the future.......Jealous of Meghan..........LOL> LOL> was Omid stupid enough to really put that in his book...what other idiotic ideas does Omid spout off in his book?
Scobie himself makes the same point. Read the book not just misquotes, inaccuracies, things taken out of context, sentences snipped by the British media.
https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1728085288696594927?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
?Whether you like my work or loathe it, all I ask is that if you are reading coverage about what?s supposedly inside #ENDGAME, please also read the book itself. Incorrect and bad translations, snippets without context, leaks etc. do not tell the full or accurate story. Thank you.?
I have read enough crap and *LIES* out of the Sussex's mouth through their interview with the O and all the other interviews and the book Spare.....this is what people don't get about Harry, he is a very emotionally disturbed young man who is living off his rage and anger at the royal family, did they put him in a dungeon, lock him up in a tower, take way his toys, or give him less sauages then William, yes that is the answer....he is hell bent on taking down the monarchy and all its history......yet he wants those titles for his children doesn't he? Talk about being 2 faced and a Lair all mixed together you get Harry. The royal family has survived worst things in life then Harry and Meghan and will continue to do so simply by turning their backs on all the hell Harry and Meghan try to create to get their attention.......it works wonders for people that do not want to be bothered by hate, rage and emotionally distrubed people who are a danger to other and themselves. If I was William I would never let Harry anywhere near my children as he is a threat to them. Harry wants what William has through no fault of his own, he was just born *first* before Harry and Harry just can not accept that, maybe it is all the drugs making him feeble in the brain and it gets worse as time goes by.
Prince William's allies hit out at 'outrageous' suggestions he briefed against Prince Harry following claims by 'Meghan's mouthpiece' Omid Scobie | (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royal_mail/article-12793499/Prince-Williams-allies-hit-outrageous-suggestions-briefed-against-Prince-Harry-following-claims-Meghans-mouthpiece-Omid-Scobie.html)
Charles breaks cover: King appears in high spirits as he heads to church in Sandringham following claims he's a 'pampered' monarch who 'has his (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12792579/Charles-breaks-cover-King-appears-high-spirits-heads-church-Sandringham-following-claims-hes-pampered-monarch-shoelaces-ironed-Omid-Scobies-new-book.html)
King Charles is a 'pampered' royal who has his shoelaces ironed for him, insists on travelling with luxurious steamed bed linen - and likes to have (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12792203/King-Charles-pampered-royal-shoelaces-ironed-insists-travelling-luxurious-steamed-bed-linen-likes-one-inch-toothpaste-squeezed-toothbrush-Omid-Scobie-claims-new-book.html)
Omid Scobie: Author says he did not interview Duchess of Sussex for upcoming book about royals | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/omid-scobie-author-says-he-did-not-interview-duchess-of-sussex-for-upcoming-book-about-royals-13016468)
New bombshell royal book 'will unveil rivalry between King Charles and Prince William' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839286/king-charles-rivalry-prince-william-omid-scobie)
Princess Kate 'too terrified' to do anything but 'grinning photo ops', Scobie book claims | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839143/princess-kate-omid-scobie-endgame-photo-ops)
POLL: Should Meghan Markle publish a tell-all book? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839176/Meghan-markle-new-book-memoir-poll)
Polls says
Yes 8%
NO 91%
Don?t know 1%
Omid Scobie predicts William could be the 'last King as we know it' in scathing attack | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839160/omid-scobie-endgame-prince-william-last-king)
Meghan Markle 'ready to set record straight' on royal rift | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839137/meghan-markle-book-royal-fallout)
Book by Meghan's 'pal' littered with errors including conspiracy theory about Princess Diana's death | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24863813/royals-omid-scobie-book-errors-diana/)
If this book is an attempt to divide Charles and William it is going to fail, says Ingrid Seward | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24856557/charles-william-divide-book/)
In the book Omid criticizes Catherine for taking more time dedicating to her children than work. He blasts her for being keen to learn, that she has less court circulars than any of the senior royals, since she is keen, she's not independent like Diana.
He says Diana and Meghan were more about their royal work, Catherine about her fashion.
Omid Scobie takes aim at Kate in first bombshells from new book as it's released in Australia: Biographer claims late Queen liked that 'Katie Keen' (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12796047/Omid-Scobie-takes-aim-Kate-bombshells-new-book-released-Australia-Biographer-claims-late-Queen-liked-Katie-Keen-coachable-unlike-Diana-takes-dig-workload.html)
Surprisingly two very left wing media outlets, The New York Times and The Independent have heavily criticized and mocked Omid Scobie.
Quite a feat. :hehe:
As I have been reading all over social media and the internet I am asking who wrote this book with such an attack on Catherine........someone who really has it out for her it seems like. A huge bit of jealousy there from someone who only put in less then 2 years as a working royal and who knows it all.
If this is an attack on Catherine then I believe this is the very endgame of the relationship of the William and Harry, it is finally dead, never to be again and the Sussex's did it all by themselves. They finally achieved their main goal, getting rid of the royal family once and for all. I know Charles is probably deeply hurt by his son because he is a parent who loves his children, yet there are times when even children can turn deadly and ugly and cruel to their parents......He can not fix Harry as that must come from Harry yet Harry is acting out of anger and rage and spite.....till he faces himself and realizes his mistakes and accepts responsiblity for his actions there is NO way this relationship will ever be fixed in any member of the royal family. And the Yorks, beware for Harry could and will turn on them if he chooses.
Quote from: wannable on November 27, 2023, 03:36:58 PM
In the book Omid criticizes Catherine for taking more time dedicating to her children than work. He blasts her for being keen to learn, that she has less court circulars than any of the senior royals, since she is keen, she's not independent like Diana.
He says Diana and Meghan were more about their royal work, Catherine about her fashion.
Omid Scobie takes aim at Kate in first bombshells from new book as it's released in Australia: Biographer claims late Queen liked that 'Katie Keen' (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12796047/Omid-Scobie-takes-aim-Kate-bombshells-new-book-released-Australia-Biographer-claims-late-Queen-liked-Katie-Keen-coachable-unlike-Diana-takes-dig-workload.html)
I can?t believe that!!
Catherine,Princess of Wales is senior member of the royal family but Meghan don?t but Kate follow late Diana,Princess of Wales?s example expect fashion and mores but Kate don?t want nonsense from Omid!!
Quote from: Nightowl on November 28, 2023, 12:05:58 AM
As I have been reading all over social media and the internet I am asking who wrote this book with such an attack on Catherine........someone who really has it out for her it seems like. A huge bit of jealousy there from someone who only put in less then 2 years as a working royal and who knows it all.
If this is an attack on Catherine then I believe this is the very endgame of the relationship of the William and Harry, it is finally dead, never to be again and the Sussex's did it all by themselves. They finally achieved their main goal, getting rid of the royal family once and for all. I know Charles is probably deeply hurt by his son because he is a parent who loves his children, yet there are times when even children can turn deadly and ugly and cruel to their parents......He can not fix Harry as that must come from Harry yet Harry is acting out of anger and rage and spite.....till he faces himself and realizes his mistakes and accepts responsiblity for his actions there is NO way this relationship will ever be fixed in any member of the royal family. And the Yorks, beware for Harry could and will turn on them if he chooses.
Omid Scobie wrote the book ?End Game?. It is his name on the cover and it is he who has been giving interviews on it.
Quote from: Nightowl on November 26, 2023, 03:33:38 AM
And if that is true in the books, better believe Harry is done for in William's eyes forever....Harry will never get anywhere near this family again.......and Charles love for his wife, Camilla, I would like to think being married the wife comes first in a husband's life, Charles waited a lifetime to marry Camilla whom he has loved forever it seems like.
NO fences will ever be mended this time around for darn sure.
Oh yes Catherine is jealous of what.....Meghan sitting in her 14 bathroom house in Ca doing what? Yea, right, Catherine is a Princess now, by Charles, she is the Princess of Wales and future queen and queen mother as her son will be king someday very far off into the future.......Jealous of Meghan..........LOL> LOL> was Omid stupid enough to really put that in his book...what other idiotic ideas does Omid spout off in his book?
Catherine is not a Princess. When people used to refer to Diana as a Princess she would correct them. She is the Princess of Wales as the wife of the Prince of Wales. She is not a Princess in her own right. That is only the case with blood princesses. It?s an honorific attached to her husband, like a Duchess married to a Duke. Princess Michael is only a Princess by attachment to her husband, she is not a Princess in her own right. Exactly the same as Kate.
Quote from: Curryong on November 28, 2023, 07:40:45 AM
Omid Scobie wrote the book ?End Game?. It is his name on the cover and it is he who has been giving interviews on it.
That does NOT mean a darn thing and you know that. Just because his name is on the cover means NOTHING as there are plenty of ghost writers in this world who write books for someone who tells them what they want, Meghan attitude is all over it from what I have read here like you have read here.
Oh yes, I know that Catherine is NOT a blood princess, she was only made a princess by being given the title Princess of Wales by Charles as she is married to the Prince of Wales.
The Sussex's just put more nails in the their coffins.......if they come out and DENY the book themselves to the public then I will eat crow, not till then.
Quote from: sara8150 on November 28, 2023, 02:47:56 AM
I can?t believe that!!
Catherine,Princess of Wales is senior member of the royal family but Meghan don?t but Kate follow late Diana,Princess of Wales?s example expect fashion and mores but Kate don?t want nonsense from Omid!!
As Catherine is being critized for taking time to raise her children instead of working......that is the dumbest thing I have ever read about Catherine, this will win the Sussex's and Omid no friends at all to critize a mother for taking care of her children.....that blows my mind! How stupid can these people be?
OPINION - Endgame by Omid Scobie review: 'An absolute turkey, an embarrassment to Harry and Meghan, and Scobie can't write for nuts' - London Evening Standard -
The Standard (https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/books/endgame-by-omid-scobie-review-an-absolute-turkey-an-embarrassment-to-harry-and-meghan-and-scobie-cant-write-for-nuts-b1123289.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1701165925-3)
So the book says that 'Catherine shivers at the mention of Meghan'? Now that made me laugh. I think someone grossly overestimates Meghan's status. It seems highly unlikely that Catherine lives in fear of her sister-in-law. If anything, Catherine probably rolls her eyes at Meghan's histrionics.
Claire Em.
@ClaireEm85
Could someone please explain to me why it was Kate's responsibility to look after her sister in law's mental health, and yet Meghan's own husband has been let off the hook for being ''too embarrassed'' to seek help for Meghan?
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Version 1.0 Meghan wrote to Human Resources
Version 2.0 Harry was too embarassed to tell his family
Version 3.0 Harry has his therapist on speed dial
Version 4.0 Omid it's Kate's fault, with 3 children - the latest addition recently born.
Meghan in the floor crying (it seems to be a theme with authors)
Quote from: Kristeh-H on November 28, 2023, 01:37:17 PM
So the book says that 'Catherine shivers at the mention of Meghan'? Now that made me laugh. I think someone grossly overestimates Meghan's status. It seems highly unlikely that Catherine lives in fear of her sister-in-law. If anything, Catherine probably rolls her eyes at Meghan's histrionics.
Omid's book is projecting what he and the duo that got caught in a court of law lying 'wish'. Most or all of the projecting is very much about him and the duo.
On another note, the BBC has panned the book. Good Morning America had to delete some of their own quotes.
Quote from: wannable on November 28, 2023, 01:47:35 PM
Omid's book is projecting what he and the duo that got caught in a court of law lying 'wish'. Most or all of the projecting is very much about him and the duo.
On another note, the BBC has panned the book. Good Morning America had to delete some of their own quotes.
Oh, I absolutely agree. The sad/funny/pathetic thing is that none of them seem to realize or care how transparent they are. Their attacks against Catherine just display how jealous and resentful they are of her.
Quote from: wannable on November 28, 2023, 01:41:27 PM
Claire Em.
@ClaireEm85
Could someone please explain to me why it was Kate's responsibility to look after her sister in law's mental health, and yet Meghan's own husband has been let off the hook for being ''too embarrassed'' to seek help for Meghan?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_9naLKXEAAcsYe?format=jpg&name=small)
Version 1.0 Meghan wrote to Human Resources
Version 2.0 Harry was too embarassed to tell his family
Version 3.0 Harry has his therapist on speed dial
Version 4.0 Omid it's Kate's fault, with 3 children - the latest addition recently born.
Meghan in the floor crying (it seems to be a theme with authors)
Good point! It's beyond ridiculous to attempt to blame Catherine for Meghan's issues. If anyone was responsible for getting Meghan help, it was her husband, a grown man with easy access to therapists and counselors. If anyone failed Meghan, it was Harry.
^ It's that transparency that makes them fail and pay backlash, seeing karma live, wouldn't have thought it possible.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on November 28, 2023, 02:30:27 PM
Good point! It's beyond ridiculous to attempt to blame Catherine for Meghan's issues. If anyone was responsible for getting Meghan help, it was her husband, a grown man with easy access to therapists and counselors. If anyone failed Meghan, it was Harry.
She wrote to Human Resources, her husband is useless having a therapist on speed dial and embarassed to tell his family, Omid blames Catherine but this group of alleged besties at her baby shower have not been mentioned to date nor have publicly supported her after finding out that she had suicidal thoughts.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkAZtXdXkAEGmE9?format=jpg&name=small)
'I didn't do it': Panicked Omid Scobie denies responsibility for error in Dutch copy of Endgame that 'names the royal racist' accused of speaking (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12801567/Panicked-Omid-Scobie-denies-responsibility-error-Dutch-Endgame-names-royal-racist.html)
The vicious royal assassination that shames even Harry and Meghan's odious cheerleader: MAUREEN CALLAHAN - who's read Omid Scobie's Endgame so you (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12801189/Harry-Meghan-Endgame-Omid-Scobie-review-MAUREEN-CALLAHAN.html)
Omid Scobie claims King Charles gloated over William and Kate's ill-fated Caribbean tour after his offers to help organise the trip were refused | (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12802291/Omid-scobie-king-charles-gloated-prince-william-kate-caribbean-tour.html)
Senior royal family can tours but Harry and Meghan is no longer tours
King Charles drove 'desperate' Harry and Meghan to sign contracts worth up to ?128 million after leaving the Royal Family, Omid Scobie claims | Daily (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12802231/omid-scobie-book-king-charles-drove-harry-meghan-sign-contracts-royal-family-exit.html)
The Palace were expecting a hatchet job, but the sheer maliciousness of the claims in Omid Scobie's book has left them all reeling, writes REBECCA (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12802243/omid-scobie-book-palace-royals-reeling.html)
Prince William is accused of silencing Princess Diana by stopping the BBC re-broadcasting her Panorama interview with Martin Bashir to protect the (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12802237/omid-scobie-book-prince-william-silence-princess-diana-bbc-panarama-martin-bashir-interview.html)
EPHRAIM HARDCASTLE: Omid Scobie's book resolves any dilemma over whether Harry and Meghan will join the rest of the Royal Family for Christmas | Daily (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12802225/omid-scobie-book-resolves-meghan-join-royal-family-christmas.html)
SARAH VINE: Where DO Harry and Meghan stand in relation to this puppet of theirs? If the Duke and Duchess of Sussex don't denounce the poison in Omid (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12802399/Prince-harry-meghan-deny-claims-omid-scobie-book-endorse.html)
RICHARD KAY: Of course there are differences between Charles and William, but Omid Scobie's version of events is no more than a parody of the truth | (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12802195/omid-scobie-book-claims-king-charles-william-paraody-truth.html)
ROBERT JOBSON: It's time for Harry and Meghan to speak out and distance themselves from these ill-informed and lurid allegations | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12799909/JOBSON-Harry-distance-lurid-allegations.html)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's 'total system reboot': Couple are revamping their career direction after being surprised at Spotify 'turning down so (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12799301/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harrys-total-reboot-Couple-revamping-career-direction-surprised-Spotify-turning-ideas-sources-claim.html)
Omid Scobie admits he was confused Harry and Meghan DIDN'T mention 'racist royal' scandal in Netflix doc or Prince's memoir Spare - as he claims (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12801259/Omid-Scobie-confused-Prince-Harry-Meghan-racist-Netflix.html)
Kate Middleton Uninterested in Bonding with Meghan Markle, Book Claims (https://people.com/kate-middleton-uninterested-forming-bond-meghan-markle-endgame-book-claims-8407346)
Biggest bombshells from Omid Scobie's new royal book revealed | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/508380/biggest-bombshells-omid-scobie-endgame-royal-book/)
Dutch version of Omid Scobie book pulled over race row 'error' (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67561190)
Endgame pulled from Dutch bookshops after royal who 'questioned' Archie's skin colour 'named' | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/endgame-royal-book-put-on-hold-in-the-netherlands-over-error-in-dutch-translation-13018312)
Endgame: Five revelations from Omid Scobie's controversial new book on Royal Family | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/endgame-five-revelations-from-omid-scobies-controversial-new-book-on-royal-family-13018020)
Omid Scobie's eight embarrassing errors in Endgame revealed, from Queen's death to titles | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839916/omid-scobie-endgame-errors)
Omid Scobie's Endgame backfires spectacularly for Harry and Meghan in America | Celebrity News | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1839866/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-influence-Endgame-coverage)
Everyone's saying the same thing about Omid Scobie's Endgame as reviews savage royal book | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839841/omid-scobie-endgame-reviews)
The 14 bombshells from Omid Scobie's Endgame, from Lilibet snub to Sophie's screw up | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839808/omid-scobie-endgame-bombshells-list)
Prince William 'exasperated' by 'cruel narratives' in Omid Scobie's Endgame | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840179/prince-william-endgame-response-omid-scobie)
I cant blame Prince of Wales
Omid Scobie denies responsibility for 'naming of racist royal' in Endgame | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840156/omid-scobie-royal-book-endgame)
Omid Scobie turns on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle for 'racist royal' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840089/Omid-Scobie-Endgame-Harry-Meghan)
Omid Scobie's Endgame pulled from shelves in Netherlands over 'naming of racist royal' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840080/omid-scobie-endgame-racist-royal-dutch-translation)
All the clues Meghan Markle helped Omid Scobie with Endgame | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840052/meghan-markle-endgame-omid-scobie)
Buckingham Palace takes veiled swipe at Omid Scobie's new royal bombshells | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1839853/omid-scobie-new-book-buckingham-palace-meghan-harry)
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-11-28/endgame-pulled-from-dutch-shelves-after-royal-racist-named
Omid Scobie denies responsibility for Endgame blunder that 'named royal racist' in book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/omid-scobie-denies-responsibility-endgame-31551461)
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Endgame translation bombshell 'names royal racist' who made comment about baby Archie - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/endgame-translation-bombshell-names-royal-31549805?int_source=nba)
Prince Archie had 'more security threats but less protection' than Kate Middleton's kids - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/prince-archie-more-security-threats-31544154)
William and Catherine have 24/7 security expect bodyguards but Harry and Meghan don?t have 24/7 security and also bodyguards if Harry and Meghan pay for bodyguards
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Shameless Omid Scobie DENIES 'naming Royal Family member as racist' in Endgame error & says 'it's all under control' | The (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24887369/omid-scobie-royal-family-member-racist-endgame-error/)
Royal Family member 'named as racist? in translation of Omid Scobie's Endgame as copies urgently pulled from shelves | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24884315/royal-racist-accidentally-named-omid-scobie/)
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I've followed Royal Family for 40 years - Omid Scobie has no idea about their life in UK and I won't be buying his book | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24874399/arthur-edwards-royal-family-omid-scobie/)
Eight major errors in Omid Scobie?s Endgame from Diana?s death conspiracy to ?lies? about Charles | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24874343/errors-omid-scobie-book-endgame-diana-conspiracy/)
I can?t believe Omid wrote about Diana!!
Interesting times 🍿
Since Omid claims that duo are angry that William and Kate have had zero reactions, phone calls, cards, nada since the Oprah, basically grey rocking and not feeding absolutely nothing and giving 0 fuel to the trio, will they get angrier? 🤭
Quote from: wannable on November 29, 2023, 02:17:27 PM
Interesting times 🍿
Since Omid claims that duo are angry that William and Kate have had zero reactions, phone calls, cards, nada since the Oprah, basically grey rocking and not feeding absolutely nothing and giving 0 fuel to the trio, will they get angrier? 🤭
William and Catherine had right but wont say anything about Omid?s books kept private conversations,private discussions,family matters and family business but William and Catherine is future sovereign one day but both don?t wanted negative comments or feedback on Omid?s books ever don?t you remember when William ignore Harry?s memoir books back to January 2023 and shipping Harry?s books of shelves at store not Buckingham Palace or Kensington Palace but William don?t wanted heard about Harry?s claims on William but Harry wrote about William?s private stories and William very upset and angry but William ingore press questions about Harry?s memoir books kept private matters
Was Dutch version of Omid Scobie book 'which named two racist royals' REALLY an error in translation? Experts say it's 'hard to believe' names could (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12805165/Omid-Scobie-Endgame-Harry-Meghan-translation-Dutch.html)
Omid Scobie doubles down after reigniting royal race row: Author admits he wanted to 'get to bottom of dispute' after Harry and Meghan walked back the (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12804095/omid-scobie-reignite-racist-row-royal-family-harry-meghan-endgame-motivation.html)
Omid Scobie suggests Prince Harry shouldn't be flying by private jet while championing eco-travel - after he and Meghan came under fire for going to (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12803631/omid-scobie-prince-harry-private-jet-eco-travel-meghan-katy-perry-gig-oil-tycoon-plane.html)
Princess of Wales now sounds 'posher' than Prince William after she had several rounds of elocution lessons, Omid Scobie's new book claims | Daily (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12804473/omid-scobie-book-princess-wales-posher-prince-william-elocution-lessons.html)
All of Omid Scobie's 'vicious' jibes at the royals in full: Bombshell book Endgame takes aim at 'cold Stepford wife' Kate, scheming William and (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12804167/nasty-allegations-Omid-Scobies-Endgame-Stepford-wife-Kate-William.html)
Endgame Book Translation Names Royal Behind Archie Skin Color Comment (https://people.com/omid-scobie-endgame-book-translation-pulled-shelves-naming-alleged-royal-made-comment-archie-skin-color-8407458)
Omid Scobie reacts as new royal book is pulled from shelves in The Netherlands | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/508505/omid-scobie-reacts-royal-book-pulled-from-shelves-netherlands/)
Publishers reveal when Omid Scobie's book will return to stores after 'royal racist' row | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840394/omid-scobie-endgame-dutch-version)
Piers Morgan savages 'liar' Omid Scobie over new book | TV & Radio | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1840251/piers-morgan-liar-omid-scobie-endgame-queen-camilla)
Omid Scobie accused by Queen's former press secretary of 'trashing' royals | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840438/omid-scobie-endgame-book-royal-family-dickie-arbiter)
Omid Scobie denies responsibility for 'naming of racist royal' in Endgame | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840156/omid-scobie-royal-book-endgame)
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-11-29/second-royal-in-alleged-racism-row-named-in-dutch-translation-of-new-book
Omid Scobie doubles down on race row and insists he didn't name 'royal racists' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/breaking-omid-scobie-doubles-down-31557538)
Royal race row in full - timeline from Meghan Markle's claims, Harry's denial and translation storm - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/royal-race-row-full-timeline-31552698)
Omid Scobie conspiracy theories - how 'Royal racists' were leaked in Endgame's Dutch version - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/omid-scobie-conspiracy-theories-how-31552706)
Omid Scobie's Endgame book already discounted by 50% as translation mystery rumbles on - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/omid-scobies-endgame-book-already-31554117)
All the times Meghan & Harry?s ?racist royal? story changed as two family members ?named? in book translation 'error' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24891340/seven-times-meghan-and-harry-changed-racist-royal/)
Second Royal Family member 'named as racist' in Dutch translation of Scobie's Endgame as thousands of copies are pulped | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24888736/another-royal-named-racist-omid-scobie-endgame/)
Quote from: Kristeh-H on November 26, 2023, 02:44:32 AM
Another interesting thing--when QEll was alive, the Sussexes never directly badmouthed her. Charles and William were the bad guys, while H and M always talked about how they respected the Queen, how they kept in contact with her, etc., etc.. Now that Charles is king, it seems like they might be trying to repair their relationship with him, while still painting William-and perhaps Anne now as well--as villains.
Well, I can admit when I'm wrong, and boy, was I wrong about this.... Rather than repairing their relationship with Charles, the Sussexes appear to be trying to gather the ashes and set them on fire again. It's been said before that 'this is it' for any hope of reconciliation, but now I do believe that 'this is, well and truly, it--the end'. Sadly, I think any one in the Royal Family would be foolish to have any further contact at all with the Sussexes. Cut them loose and be done with it.
Ah, your right about that yet with all the rage and anger of Harry and Meghan there is still another *BOOK* to come, let's not forget Meghan, her diaries that she kept while a working royal, all of less then 2 years must fill a few thousands pages.
So with the royal family NOT responding to Harry and Meghan it is making them more then anger now, they want a *response* and are not getting it and that is fueling the fire in them......there is NO turning back for the Sussex's ever now.......want holidays at Sandringham now.......LOL.
Oh the jealousies of Meghan .........she will never hold a candle to Catherine ever. Catherine knows just who she is 100%.....Catherine I bet does not rent space in her mind over Meghan....no need to! Oh to be a fly on the wall of the Sussex's.....LOL
Oh with the release of the names who made comments about Archie's skin color, now there is NOTHING left to hold over the heads of the royal family is there, it is out there and the royal family will deal with it personally like they have been doing. No more blackmailing the royal family Harry/Meghan.
After reading all over about the BOOK, one thing came to mind and was very clear......this comment came from elsewhere so mods if not allowed pls remove it and it is a partial comment with NO names attached...Harry and Meghan very much wants to force a public reaction from the King and the rest of the royal family and have been extremely frustrated and angered by the official policy of silence.
This is what is keeping them going on and on with books, interviews, reality shows, whatever comes to their minds........NOBODY across the pond is giving them the time of day or wanting them to be around at family events. NOBODY will ever TRUST them again and that is on Harry and Meghan only.....they did this to themselves, they burnt all bridges and the land is filled with sinkholes if they step across.
*Seeing that in the past they read everything about themselves and probably the entire royal family so maybe they are still doing the same and seeing how well William and Catherine are doing around the world is really peeving them off big time*.......almost daily. Oh the Jealousy is really blinding them to what they are missing and could of had. Oh well time moves on...
The trio will get angrier with the BRF because they are not giving them the attention soap opera drama of tit for tat they want.
I said the book was and is going to be angry and mad (lunatic), it surpassed both angry/mad, it is very dangerous to the point of people in uniform hawk eye or more...
The more this plays out and keeps going on as it has had for years now got me to thinking this lately, Harry is like a ticking time bomb and I would not want him around any immediate member of the royal family when he goes off. See, I base how Harry is right now like a pressure cooker, the lid blows off and out comes all the pent up emotional feelings that have been stuffed down for a long time now. I understand that as that is what happened to me, after over 20 years of emotional, mental, physical and sexual abuse by my ex, the damn lid blew sky high and I was ready to do the bastard in, only I ended up in a hospital for 3 months with a nervous breakdown...my ex was very lucky I was in that hospital for I was ready to take him down to hell. I would hate to see Harry get to that point yet there is the issue of *TRUST* when talking to him, anything of importance said around him or Meghan will end up in a book, the TV or in an interview and that will now for sure keep the royal family far away from him and Meghan and that is ON THEM for what they did. Harry strikes me as a man on a mission who will NOT let this go ever, he just won't period. So this soap opera will continue with no ending in sight.
Here is one thing about me.....I love dogs, I really really do and I only adopt ole senior dogs that have been abandoned, abused and dumped...I give them a fabulous home the last years of their lives, why, it is all because I *understand* these dogs, I get them, I know them and their fears, why, because that was me as a child and adult so I take that and make something positive out of it. I am on my 5 dog now since my divorce.....all my furbabies were fierce protective of me and their home till their end. And they all would *bite* anyone who came near them or me..........LOL....just ask some here where I live...they are in fear of Cinco.........LOL
Quote from: Nightowl on November 29, 2023, 11:20:01 PM
Ah, your right about that yet with all the rage and anger of Harry and Meghan there is still another *BOOK* to come, let's not forget Meghan, her diaries that she kept while a working royal, all of less then 2 years must fill a few thousands pages.
So with the royal family NOT responding to Harry and Meghan it is making them more then anger now, they want a *response* and are not getting it and that is fueling the fire in them......there is NO turning back for the Sussex's ever now.......want holidays at Sandringham now.......LOL.
Oh the jealousies of Meghan .........she will never hold a candle to Catherine ever. Catherine knows just who she is 100%.....Catherine I bet does not rent space in her mind over Meghan....no need to! Oh to be a fly on the wall of the Sussex's.....LOL
Oh with the release of the names who made comments about Archie's skin color, now there is NOTHING left to hold over the heads of the royal family is there, it is out there and the royal family will deal with it personally like they have been doing. No more blackmailing the royal family Harry/Meghan.
King Charles and Prince William said will not welcome Harry and Meghan to Sandringham next month of Christmas due bombshell interview not back to almost one year December 2022 of Harry and Meghan?s Netflix,Harry?s memoir last January 2023 they NOW Omid Scobie?s books insult to royal family not necessarily for that but Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace kept silent on Sussex?s drama for weeks,months and years but William not wanted interviews with press on Harry?s books and Netflix he is Prince of Wales but i understand he angry and he is upset on Harry wrote about William?s private life that not OKAY!!
Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace kept silent on Harry?s drama for weeks,months and years I don?t blame that
Quote from: Nightowl on November 30, 2023, 12:57:19 AM
After reading all over about the BOOK, one thing came to mind and was very clear......this comment came from elsewhere so mods if not allowed pls remove it and it is a partial comment with NO names attached...Harry and Meghan very much wants to force a public reaction from the King and the rest of the royal family and have been extremely frustrated and angered by the official policy of silence.
This is what is keeping them going on and on with books, interviews, reality shows, whatever comes to their minds........NOBODY across the pond is giving them the time of day or wanting them to be around at family events. NOBODY will ever TRUST them again and that is on Harry and Meghan only.....they did this to themselves, they burnt all bridges and the land is filled with sinkholes if they step across.
*Seeing that in the past they read everything about themselves and probably the entire royal family so maybe they are still doing the same and seeing how well William and Catherine are doing around the world is really peeving them off big time*.......almost daily. Oh the Jealousy is really blinding them to what they are missing and could of had. Oh well time moves on...
Yes don?t you remember when Harry sold soul according to express said
Quote from: Kristeh-H on November 29, 2023, 11:02:15 PM
Well, I can admit when I'm wrong, and boy, was I wrong about this.... Rather than repairing their relationship with Charles, the Sussexes appear to be trying to gather the ashes and set them on fire again. It's been said before that 'this is it' for any hope of reconciliation, but now I do believe that 'this is, well and truly, it--the end'. Sadly, I think any one in the Royal Family would be foolish to have any further contact at all with the Sussexes. Cut them loose and be done with it.
I don?t think so
King Charles and Prince William both will not repaired with Harry due William and Harry both been rifted back to 2019 but William and Harry both not speaking on the phone for years
Royal Family will never connect with Harry ever!!
Quote from: sara8150 on November 30, 2023, 01:55:09 PM
Yes don?t you remember when Harry sold soul according to express said
I think of it like this, Harry sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver like Judas did to Jesus.
Quote from: sara8150 on November 30, 2023, 02:04:42 PM
I don?t think so
King Charles and Prince William both will not repaired with Harry due William and Harry both been rifted back to 2019 but William and Harry both not speaking on the phone for years
Royal Family will never connect with Harry ever!!
Yes, they would be wise to not have any contact with Harry or Meghan again.
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Dutch translator of Omid Scobie's Endgame says the names of the two 'royal racists' WERE in the manuscript she was sent after author insisted he 'never submitted a book with them in it' | Daily Mail Online
Colleagues of the two ''experienced'' Dutch translators of Omid Scobie's book say it's ''unthinkable'' the women added names of the two ''royal racists'' into the transcript themselves.
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Quote from: wannable on November 30, 2023, 06:13:36 PM
Colleagues of the two ''experienced'' Dutch translators of Omid Scobie's book say it's ''unthinkable'' the women added names of the two ''royal racists'' into the transcript themselves.
I have to say that for experienced translators, this must be the stuff of nightmares. It leaves their publishers open to legal action.
I believe the translators and fully believe that Scobie is lying as he has before. I hope they have some proof to back up their word, but even if they don't, Scobie is known to have been dishonest, and I doubt that he (or the Sussexes) would pursue the matter legally as I can't imagine they would want to testify under oath.
A Sussex silence even more damning than the 'royal racist' stink bomb: MAUREEN CALLAHAN's devastating takedown of Harry and Meghan's cowardly refusal (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12806599/MAUREEN-CALLAHAN-royal-racists-Harry-Meghan-Scobie-cowardly-silence.html)
Palace 'utterly dismayed' as Piers Morgan NAMES two royals at centre of race row: Furious officials take legal advice after Omid Scobie's book (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12807773/Two-senior-royals-mistakenly-identified-Omid-Scobies-book-having-concerns-Archies-skin-colour-named-UK-TV-Monarchy-utterly-dismayed-officials-legal-advice-fury-grows-translation-error-spiteful-stunt.html)
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle should distance themselves from Omid Scobie's explosive book as race row deepens, say royal experts - 'The Sussexes (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12810811/Harry-Meghan-ways-Royal-experts-demand-royal-couple-distance-Omid-Scobies-explosive-book-race-row-deepens.html)
Kate Middleton and Prince William ignore fallout from Omid Scobie race row as they arrive hand-in-hand at the Royal Variety Performance | Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12810801/Kate-Middleton-ignores-fallout-Omid-Scobie-race-row-puts-sleek-display-teal-gown-Royal-Variety-Performance-Prince-William.html)
William and Catherine ignore press interviews due bombshell claims but don?t wanted listens about gossip,negative stories,negative comments and negative feedback
Dutch translator of Omid Scobie's Endgame says the names of the two 'royal racists' WERE in the manuscript she was sent after author insisted he (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12810565/Dutch-translator-Omid-Scobies-Endgame-says-names-two-royal-racists-manuscript-sent-author-insisted-never-submitted-book-it.html)
Yes, Omid Scobie is the author of that poisonous book but it's shameful Harry and Meghan who are REALLY to blame for the nasty 'royal racists' (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12809171/Scobie-author-shameful-Harry-Meghan.html)
Omid Scobie says names of two 'royal racists' in Endgame's Dutch translation have been 'known for a long time' and insists he 'never submitted book (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12810133/omid-scobie-royal-racists-known.html)
Palace 'considers all options' in royal race row stoked by Omid Scobie's book Endgame, sources say with King determined to 'get on with business' as (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12808999/palace-race-row-omid-scobie-endgame.html)
King brushes off Omid Scobie race row: Charles jokes 'he's alright... just about' as Palace considers legal action - after Piers Morgan named two (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12808575/King-Charles-Omid-Scobie-book-Endgame-Harry-Meghan-royal-racists.html)
Omid Scobie says he's 'as frustrated as everyone else' after 'royal racists' were named in Dutch translation of Endgame - as he insists he's been (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12809093/Palace-race-row-omid-scobie-endgame-Morning.html)
Palace 'utterly dismayed' as Piers Morgan NAMES two royals at centre of race row: Furious officials take legal advice after Omid Scobie's book (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12807773/Two-senior-royals-mistakenly-identified-Omid-Scobies-book-having-concerns-Archies-skin-colour-named-UK-TV-Monarchy-utterly-dismayed-officials-legal-advice-fury-grows-translation-error-spiteful-stunt.html)
Kate Middleton, Prince William Ignore Questions on Royal Book Scandal (https://people.com/kate-middleton-prince-william-ignore-questions-endgame-book-royal-variety-performance-red-carpet-watch-video-8409204)
King Charles Says He's 'All Right... Just About' amid Book Controversy (https://people.com/king-charles-says-hes-all-right-royal-book-endgame-controversy-8409189)
King Charles don?t wanted nonsense on Omid Scobie?s book same Prince William but article said Prince Harry got shocked on Omid Scobie?s books got bombshell about Harry?s family and expect his mother the Princess Diana
Prince William Almost Didn't Invite Prince Harry to Windsor Walkabout (https://people.com/prince-william-close-not-inviting-prince-harry-windsor-walkabout-led-by-king-charles-book-claims-8408283)
King Charles shares first words since release of new royal book Endgame | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/508607/king-charles-makes-first-appearance-dubai-since-endgame-book/)
Palace considering all options after King Charles and Kate named in Archie 'skin colour' row | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/palace-considering-all-options-after-charles-and-kate-named-in-archie-skin-colour-row-13019749)
Royals and race: inquiry under way into naming of Charles and Catherine in new book | Monarchy | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/30/inquiry-naming-king-charles-catherine-duchess-sussex-kate-royal-book-race-harry-meghan)
The Daily Express has chosen not to name the 'royal racists' - it would be wrong | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840928/express-not-name-royal-racists)
'Omid Scobie's royal racist claim is absolute b****cks ? this is what really happened' | Express Comment | Comment | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1840713/Omid-scobie-royals-comment-book)
'I'm a royal expert and King Charles has only one way to respond to Omid Scobie's Endgame' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840775/king-charles-response-omid-scobie-endgame)
Omid Scobie insists 'he's the victim' in Endgame row and claims he's been unfairly treated | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1840699/omid-scobie-endgame-interview-response)
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-11-30/how-does-the-royal-family-respond-to-the-royal-racist-row
Kate Middleton and King Charles dragged into royal racism row as pair accused in Omid Scobie Endgame - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/breaking-kate-middleton-king-charles-31564564)
'The Royal Family must follow the late Queen's example and tackle the racism row head on' - Russell Myers - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/the-royal-family-must-follow-31569900)
'Kate Middleton will be damaged more than Charles after being dragged into royal race row' - expert - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/kate-middleton-damaged-more-charles-31566719)
Names of royals in 'racism row' were in Endgame manuscript, Dutch translator claims - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/names-royals-racism-row-were-31567106)
Piers Morgan explains reason why he decided to name royals in Endgame racism row - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/piers-morgan-explains-reason-decided-31569402)
King Charles issues strained seven-word response amid Endgame royal racism row - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/breaking-king-charles-issues-strained-31562073)
Omid Scobie accused of 'spewing bulls**t' over naming of royals in 'racism' storm as pair are revealed | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24900535/omid-scobie-naming-king-charles-princess-kate/)
Names of royals in ?racism? storm WERE in Endgame manuscript, Dutch translator claims as Omid Scobie branded a ?liar? ? The Sun | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24910990/omid-scobie-royals-book-dutch-translation/)
Omid Scobie doubles down & insists he NEVER named royals in 'racism' storm - but Piers slams 'lying lickspittle' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24894020/omid-scobie-talks-endgame-royal-family-racists/)
Omid Scobie wouldn?t know the truth if it slapped him round his chops, Piers Morgan hits back in ?racist royal? row | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24904467/omid-scobie-piers-morgan-racist-royal/)
Brazen Omid Scobie REFUSES to apologise to the two senior 'racist royals' named in his discredited book: 'Frustrated' author slams 'irresponsible (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12812097/Omid-Scobie-REFUSES-apologise-two-senior-royals-book-accused-racist-tense-BBC-interview-Dutch-translator-Endgame-confirms-two-names-manuscript.html)
JAN MOIR: It beggars belief to suggest Harry's family implied that a non-white baby wouldn't be welcome | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12811923/JAN-MOIR-beggars-belief-suggest-Harrys-family-implied-non-white-baby-wouldnt-welcome.html)
RICHARD KAY: There's a sense of shock inside Palace circles after two royals are publicly identified as the supposed 'racists' in Omid Scobie's book. (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12811893/shock-palace-Omid-Scobie-Royal-Family.html)
Unbelievable hurt and pain Harry, Meghan, and Omid have caused to the royal family with this book. Karma will someday take huge bits out of the 3 of them for sure....for what you put out to the world will come right back to you and it will not feel good.
Quote from: Nightowl on December 01, 2023, 01:15:55 PM
Unbelievable hurt and pain Harry, Meghan, and Omid have caused to the royal family with this book. Karma will someday take huge bits out of the 3 of them for sure....for what you put out to the world will come right back to you and it will not feel good.
I?m completely agreed with you but this books is 100% is lied,bombshell and mores plus insults the royal family absolutely unacceptable and unnecessarily for that but Prince William and his wife Princess Catherine ignore press during events at Royal Variety Performance they wont answer questions about Omid Scobie?s book but William is Heir and also he is future sovereign one day but William not wanted nonsense about bombshells books of Omid Scobie and his brother?s book also but William said on Omid Scobie and Harry?s book will straighten to books store not shipping to Buckingham Palace nor Kensington Palace but William and King Charles will not read on Omid Scobie?s books or Harry?s books just ignore them but members of the Royal family will not read of Omid Scobie?s books and Harry?s books also kept silent
To be honest, I think it already is. I could be wrong (as I have been before!), but Harry and Meghan do not seem like happy people at all, imo. Of course when they go out for photo ops, they can put on a happy face (Meghan is better at that than Harry), but their words and actions are not those of people who are content and at peace with themselves.
And they have so much--beautiful, healthy children, plenty of money to live comfortably, a lovely home. But instead, they seem to live in resentment and jealousy, always wanting more, always wanting the world's sympathy and admiration but instead turning more and more people away from them.
They couldn't have what they really wanted--Half In, Half Out--picking some royal events to participate in and then making their own fortune, with government funded security wherever they went. And since then, they have been searching and seeking for money, fame, and goodwill, but they just don't have much to offer beyond their own bitter viewpoint.
At least that is how it seems to me.
The trio are being heavily criticized worldwide by black people!. I do not think the palace will respond to 'malignant narcissism'. The trio are literally rock bottom sick.
The trio are willing participants in Machiavellian games, scheming underhandedly and unscrupulously planting the next seed - that seed has a purpose in the future.
Let me go to Oprah and leave a nebulous hazy cloudy accusation of racism. When the moment is in desperate need I will 'pick' who (m) the racist is. The trio are so see-through, the majority of people who weren't interested in royalty are seeing the situation in disbelief bombarded in mainstream and social media and commenting for the first time unfavorably to the accusations, meaning the trio must be in panic mode playing yet again the victimhood gone wrong.
I think it is great this is happening in the sense that there must be a definitive breaking point when something goes really wrong. When lunacy is let loose 1, 2 and a 3rd time with no repercussions it is very very dangerous to all parties, mostly to the perpetrators, one wouldn't know what direction of harm they will go.
This isn't a brush away business, this is a very serious situation where the adults in the room will need to think hard what next. Depending on the direction the adults in the room will take will determine the future of the trio whom are mentally ill basket cases. IMO the trio are capable of using next Archie and Lily - it should not at all costs reach to this stage ever.
In reference to small publishing company in the Netherlands and the home office free lance professional translator, this is not the first time the ''duo'' (Trio) use little people with obviously zero power whatsoever to defend themselves resulting in lose their jobs.
There are many examples of zero repercussions with the collateral damage the Sussexes have been doing and keep on doing - everytime this lunatic harm is 'growing' bigger, hence my above comment. They've planted several seeds and then wait to strike to use those seeds when in need. Someone very smart in SM numbered the seeds, and when each 'so far' has been used (hopefully it doesn't get to A & L, seriously). Every single time there is people who are collateral damage - mostly the loss of a job of a little random person, the family income.
That woman translator is the collateral damage, Omid is spreading it in his interviews making her the faulty party no matter what her CV says of a quarter of a century of experience.
Palace could take legal action in race row: King Charles is taking allegations 'very seriously' and 'considering all options' - as questions remain (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12815833/Palace-legal-action-Omid-Scobie-book-King-Charles-taking-allegations-seriously-aids-hunt-Royal-leaker.html)
Diana's personal protection officer KEN WHARFE who worked with Royal Family for two decades rubbishes claims they are racist | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12815343/Dianas-personal-protection-officer-Royal-Family-rubbishes-racist.html)
Meghan insists she DIDN'T leak names of 'royal racists' to Omid Scobie: Sources close to the Duchess of Sussex - who named pair in a letter to King - (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12813423/meghan-markle-omid-scobie-not-leak-names-royal-racists.html)
Omid Scobie 'has done his master's bidding' as Harry and Meghan are Endgame author's 'meal ticket so he wouldn't do anything to upset them', expert (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12813675/Omid-Scobie-masters-bidding-Harry-Meghan-Endgame-authors-meal-ticket-wouldnt-upset-expert-tells-PALACE-CONFIDENTIAL.html)
Meghan insists she DIDN'T leak names of 'royal racists' to Omid Scobie: Sources close to the Duchess of Sussex - who named pair in a letter to King - (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12813423/meghan-markle-omid-scobie-not-leak-names-royal-racists.html)
Trevor Phillips calls Omid Scobie's allegations about 'racist royals' 'nonsense' - amid growing backlash at his relentless twisting of the knife - and (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12813625/trevor-phillips-omid-scobie-racist-royals-allegation-nonsense-race-row-dutch-endgame.html)
Debate breaks out on GMB as a journalist says royal should discuss 'unconscious bias' amid Omid Scobie race row - but historian says playing the blame (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12813545/Debate-breaks-GMB-journalist-says-monarchy.html)
U.K. Politician Defends Two Royals Named in Royal Book Scandal (https://people.com/two-senior-royals-named-amid-endgame-book-controversy-defended-politician-8409772)
How the Palace got stuck in Scobie-gate (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67589069)
Omid Scobie dismisses need to say sorry to Royal Family after book 'error' named King and Kate in 'skin colour' row | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/omid-scobie-dismisses-need-to-say-sorry-to-royal-family-after-book-error-named-king-and-kate-in-skin-colour-row-13020167)
Buckingham Palace hints at legal action after royals named in race row | Monarchy | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/01/buckingham-palace-hints-legal-action-royals-named-race-row-king-charles-harry-meghan)
Daily Express receives 90% reader support for not naming royals in racism row | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1841261/daily-express-reader-support-not-naming-royals-racism-row)
Victoria Derbyshire furious as Omid Scobie refuses to apologise for racism row | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1841065/victoria-derbyshire-newsnight-omid-scobie-endgame)
Charles & Harry's relationship 'beyond repair' as BBC names King as royal in 'racism' row just before landmark speech | The (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24923830/charles-harry-relationship-beyond-repair-royal-racism-row/)
After the despair Charles must have felt this week, has he reached the real endgame with his errant son? | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24923816/meghan-harrys-ever-changing-story-king-charles-race-row/)
Omid Scobie's 'racist royals' claim branded 'nonsense' by Trevor Phillips who says it's normal to discuss a baby's (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24920988/omid-scobies-racist-royals-claim-nonsense-trevor-phillips/)
Omid Scobie's book is full of petty falsehoods - all I see is a King working tirelessly | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24923966/king-charles-omid-scobie-endgame-arthur-edwards/)
I think this book is back firing on the Sussex's and Omid for sure, and NOBODY believes a word out of Meghan's mouth, she is just making herself look like a fool and lair.
Why is it so quiet from their fan base.........maybe they realize this is really now the Endgame for the Sussex's.
William needs to consider Henry dead.
A no body, a nothing.
William should never see nor even speak ,via staff , to Henry again.
The only time Henry could be in William?s orbit is for KC funeral. Even then, William should not look at Henry, see him, talk to him. William should have Men in Grey Suits keep Henry away.
What Henry n his wife have done , said: Oprah, Finding Freedom, The Cut, Spare, Netflix reality tv show, Bradbury 2 interviews, End Game plus Henry n his wife?s little zingers such as, ? Service is universal,?
? The Queen does not own the word, ? royal, ? have all been filled with jealously, anger,bitterness, hatred , viciousness, etc.
YES THIS IS THE END GAME. THE END OF THE GAME.
For William, this about Catherine will follow her negatively until the days she dies decades , 40 plus years from now. Racist ACCUSATIONS are things not to be taken lightly and once accused of this, it is a PERMENANT STAIN LASTING FOREVER.
NEXT, William?s children, who he loves more than anything, will be accused of racism should Henry n Williams children ever meet.
Unfortunately, in many families as the children become adults, things change and in some cases, sadly true, the siblings just part ways.
I do not like KC, but he does not deserve this.
It is hard for a parent to consider a living , but lost, adult child DEAD, but KC needs to do this. Sever , cut ties with Henry.
Anything KC does or says in communication to Henry is subject to be leaked to the press.
End the game.
For KC, the BRF, his deceased parents , the govt, the country, and himself have been destroyed by Henry.
End the game and take the power awa by no communicating.
Megan knows how to do this. Her father, who by all accounts was good and close to her, is as good as DEAD to her.
After the engagement , Thomas was a no body, a nothing to Meg.
Yesyesyes the man talked to the press and got paid for trying on a tux, etc.
I really think he has some cognitive issues.
Henry did not put in place staff, etc. to help Thomas, manage him if you will. Thomas is fat, old, slow and just no longer useful. Gooooodbye, bush- bye.
In the Netflix reality tv show, Megan said they both loss their fathers. Yes, so be it. KC needs to be be lost, get lost.
End this game.
Could a lot of this book be about *revenge* for HM denied the Sussex's the *half in/half out* that they wanted to badly? I don't think they realize how lucky they are, they have millions in the bank, an estate with so much land and all the finer elements of life, they have friends, family there, so what the hell is their problem? Harry I believe is still living with anger and rage at his family across the pond, he wants what Harry wants now and being spoiled since a small child know no difference that you can't always get what you want in life even a royal prince. Meghan, she wanted and landed her cash cow for sure and yet I feel jealousy is a big part of her character. She never took the time to learn about the hierarchy of the royal family, like Harry, Meghan wanted what Meghan wants when she wants something all because Harry is a royal prince. Their demands, treatment of staff and not listening to how the royal family works (that is all on you Harry for not being honest with Meghan) is what got them where they are at today. Seeing how William and Catherine are in the world daily must really give them nightmares for this could of been part of their life and they just up and threw it away.........They *ran* and that there makes them look weak and insecure when you can not stand up and face your problems in life....
I miss this sites post approval you could click on for posts.
I agree with everyone.
I like how the site has two sections.Sussex fans and Non- Sussex fans. Everyone can post in peace.
The collateral damage of Omid is professional translator Ms. Saskia Peeter. Saskia said she's been crying since this happened.
This has to stop. This has to be the final , last destructive time that BRF, namely W, K, KC , C, gives Henry a chance to destroy them.
Never complain and never explain.
Ostrich and bury your head in the sand.
Carry on.
1950, 1940, 1990 even .
What can KC do, but he needs to do something?
The walk to see the people with Sussex invited with Wales was not a good idea.
The car ride back, only the four of them were in the car do who leaked that.
Official BRF site needs to remove them.
No communication by KC. As father, if he is so hopeful, if it is so hard for him to break away, his staff could issue a public statement. Happy Birthday, etc.
I do not know, but enough is enough.
Quote from: Nightowl on December 02, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Could a lot of this book be about *revenge* for HM denied the Sussex's the *half in/half out* that they wanted to badly? I don't think they realize how lucky they are, they have millions in the bank, an estate with so much land and all the finer elements of life, they have friends, family there, so what the hell is their problem? Harry I believe is still living with anger and rage at his family across the pond, he wants what Harry wants now and being spoiled since a small child know no difference that you can't always get what you want in life even a royal prince. Meghan, she wanted and landed her cash cow for sure and yet I feel jealousy is a big part of her character. She never took the time to learn about the hierarchy of the royal family, like Harry, Meghan wanted what Meghan wants when she wants something all because Harry is a royal prince. Their demands, treatment of staff and not listening to how the royal family works (that is all on you Harry for not being honest with Meghan) is what got them where they are at today. Seeing how William and Catherine are in the world daily must really give them nightmares for this could of been part of their life and they just up and threw it away.........They *ran* and that there makes them look weak and insecure when you can not stand up and face your problems in life....
Yes, I think a lot of Harry and Meghan's actions since leaving have been about getting revenge. Obviously, the following is only my opinion, but the Sussexes both seem like vengeful people who hold onto grudges for any (real or perceived) slight and try to 'get back' at people.
Harry seems to place all blame for his parents' unhappy marriage on his father and Camilla while ignoring Diana's faults and questionable actions, and he seems to have never been able to come to terms and move on, as William has. I don't think Harry has the maturity to accept that Charles (and Diana) may have tried and did try to do their best raising the boys, but they both had a lot of emotional baggage from their own pasts. Harry can't accept that, and forgive Charles, and he doesn't even see that Diana wasn't perfect and may have made some mistakes too. So yes, I think he really despises Charles and Camilla and would like to hurt them in any way he can. And that's a sad and terrible thing, but that is what I have come to believe.
I think Harry and Meghan are extremely jealous of William and Catherine. By his own admission, Harry has always been resentful of William being the heir. They are both envious and insecure about the Wales couple outranking them, and I believe Meghan is jealous of Catherine's popularity and her success in her role. I think the Sussexes believed that their star power would outshine William and Catherine's, and that while the Wales would officially outrank them, that they would be seen as dull and stodgy and Harry and Meghan would be the true stars, that they would be given plum engagements and be allowed to do as they pleased, and they would be everyone's favourites.
And yes, I think Meghan had unrealistic expectations of royal life, and sadly Harry seemed pretty clueless as well. I think they always imagined having some version of Half In and Half Out, having some time to build their brand and their personal fortune. It must have been a very bitter pill to swallow when that was denied. Plus, of course, they need money and lots of it. They want to live the lifestyle of the rich and famous so they had to figure out how to fund it, and unfortunately trashing the Royal Family has been the only thing that has paid off in a major way.
I think everything they've done (including cooperating with Scobie) has been based on jealousy and anger, a desire for vengeance, and a need and desire for money.
It was their only income to date, trashing Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine (and the Waleses children, Yikes)
I am very curious if George will ever see/visit uncle Harry like the Queen and Charles received once in a blue moon the Duke of Windsor.
Quote from: wannable on December 02, 2023, 03:45:35 PM
It was their only income to date, trashing Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine (and the Waleses children, Yikes)
I am very curious if George will ever see/visit uncle Harry like the Queen and Charles received once in a blue moon the Duke of Windsor.
At this point, I think it is very doubtful that any of the Wales children will see the Sussexes. I do not think their parents would want them to or would allow it as long as they are minors. If you mean when George is an adult, well, we will have to wait and see. Anything is possible. But I think George, Charlotte, and Louis will feel great love and loyalty to their parents and I doubt they would have any wish to associate with people who have treated their parents cruelly.
I do not see why or how the Sussex children and Wales children will ever meet or should.
There is no reason for them to do so.
The parents are at war or at last very trustful, disconnected, strangers to each other.
KC has seen Arch n Lil as many times as you can count on one hand.
I would think WilliamCatherine will never have their children meet Sussex kids as a sacrifice to the media. If they should meet as children, Sussex parents will put forth rumors of the meeting saying the children were racist.
Ok, that is going too far so sad fact is the children WILL NEVER know EACH other. Saddest for Sussex kids because they will never know their heritage or be a part of that uniqueness plus have an extended family of cousins from Will, Bea, Eug , Zara,etc.
The Sussex kids have play cousins in Megan?s friends? kids.
My prediction , Sussex meeting KC , lol, when Megan rids herself of dead weight, that dummy H, Atch, Herry, he will seldom see the children. Like with Angelina Jolie, in a divorce, the ex is also the ex , divorced by the mother for the children of the father. Brad Pitt no longer has children. The all hate his guts and he is dead to them.
Thomas is a no one, a nobody , dead to Megan.
What you marry how the spouse parent?s are treated is what your treatment will be too when the divorce happens.
Jon Voight is dead to Jolie and Pitt is dead to his former children.
Harry, lol, will be considered dead by his children.
?divorce, the ex is also the ex , divorced by the mother for the children of the father. Brad Pitt no longer has children. The all hate his guts and he is dead to them.
Thomas is a no one, a nobody , dead to Megan.
What you marry how the spouse parent?s are treated is what your treatment will be too when the divorce happens.
Jon Voight is dead to Jolie and Pitt is dead to his former children.
Harry, lol, will be considered dead by his children.? End quote FanDianaFancy.
What a wonderful sentiment to hope for between a man, Harry, who has shown nothing but love to his children and love and loyalty to his wife.
And those sentiments about Brad Pitt aren?t true either. The only one of his six children he?s estranged from (apparently) is Maddox. He sees the other five regularly, according to this report..
Where Does Brad Pitt Stand With His Children After Angelina Jolie Divorce? - SHEfinds (https://www.shefinds.com/collections/brad-pitt-children-relationship-angelina-jolie-messy-divorce/)
?As part of his current custody agreement, the Ad Astra actor, 59, reportedly regularly sees daughter Shiloh, 17, and twins Vivienne Marcheline and Knox Leon, 15, with a source telling InTouch: "He?s on good terms with them." The source also said that he regularly speaks with Pax, 19, and Zahara, 18, adding, "He lost a lot of precious time with them during the custody battle, and he?s determined not to miss any more."
But Brad?s relationship with 22-year-old son Maddox still needs to be worked on, if we are to believe the latest reports. "He loves Maddox dearly, and even though they?re still estranged, Brad will always hold out hope for reconciliation," the source added, while InTouch also reported that a rep for Pitt had no comment when asked about his relationship with Maddox.?
Dead to them?
It is typical in the social media sphere from extreme fans both camps to say dead for x.
It started with the bbc radio guy who is forever jobless paid his sin but it was not enough basically the radical sussexsquad want him D. And on and on a bunch of deserved redundancy as well as undeserved collateral damages.
Probably king George and the Princess Royal Charlotte will give Uncle H an audience
The firm 1000 history can help them to see what worked and what not with for example the Duke o and Duchess of Windsor. They are after all buried at frogmore burial grounds.
Quote from: wannable on December 03, 2023, 12:38:10 AM
Probably king George and the Princess Royal Charlotte will give Uncle H an audience
The firm 1000 history can help them to see what worked and what not with for example the Duke o and Duchess of Windsor. They are after all buried at frogmore burial grounds.
We don?t know whether there will be a British monarchy by the time George ascends the throne, especially if William lives to his grandmother?s age. Considering that many Brits under 35 now are not exactly fervent monarchists, a situation not likely to improve in the decades to come.
And it is extremely unlikely that Charlotte and Louis as spares won?t be encouraged into private life and careers not full time royal duties. It?s been said that William wants an even more pared down roster of full working royals than his father. That means himself, Kate (be good to see them doing between 300 and 400 engagements a year, lol) and George the heir, if and when he marries, and it?s to be hoped that he marries someone who wants to partake of royal duties for the rest of her life, because if she doesn?t there will be trouble!
Now, I do think it's possible that the Wales and Sussex children will meet eventually. But I don't think they will be close. There will be the question of loyalty to their parents for each set, not to mention that they will grow up living very different lives and far apart, and won't have much in common.
Every old generation says that of the new one. Then the new one grow old and wise
The constitutional monarchy keeps the politicians basically in check
I do not think the Sussex children will ever meet the waleses
IMO they are being raised to be like their parents as they are and have plotted since 2018. The megxit.
"The Sun on Sunday has translated significant excerpts of the now- recalled Dutch version and we can reveal that the changes from the English edition go much further than just naming the two royals.
A number of quotes appear, attributed to "sources close to the Sussexes" - but they have been changed or omitted from the English book." -
Bombshell claim 'heartless' Prince William denied Harry chance to fly to Queen's deathbed deepens rift between brothers | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24930053/prince-william-denied-harry-chance-fly-queens-deathbed/)
Does anyone remember that William waited for Harry over an hour and that also William and those with him when he got to Balmoral that HM had already passed on, it was NOT just Harry who missed seeing HM before she died.....why blame it all on William as Harry of course NEEDED Meghan to be with him as he can not handle life on his own, poor little boy playing at being a real man who is weak and insecure without his wife to hold his hand and tell him what to do. Grrr, Harry has become a very disgusting human being and that is being nice to him.
I do remember hearing from the start that the plane waited an hour for Harry, and that was because he was arguing with Charles over whether or not Meghan could come. Also, that Her Majesty had already passed by the time William, Andrew, and the Edinburghs arrived at Balmoral.
But I was unclear on if the delay caused them to miss being at her side when she went. Do we know if William and the others would have been there if their plane had departed on schedule? Because if Harry's poor behavior did cause Andrew and Edward to miss being at their mother's side when she died, I would think they would have a difficult time ever forgiving that.
^ YES, all the royal rota was working two weeks straight from start to beginning. All the big, medium and small media outlets recorded the ''timeline'' of the day the late Queen Elizabeth II died. The timeline of William, Andrew, Edward and Sophie sitting at the tarmac whilst top staff telling Harry who was going and who wasn't going, having to resort to photographing a sad Catherine on the school run to pick up the children, etc. etc. etc. for Harry to understand that if he were to go it had to be him without the wife. Of course this timeline of events DOES bring other analytic articles of why did Harry insist in going with Meghan when both snubbed the Q during four year invitations. Only in death to what? Well the logical thing for anyone to think is to sell her death, because they already were selling half truths/half lies or full lies about her, stoking the fire and what not. For Harry and Meghan to get angry that the press analyze their actions is their own fault. Once you behave bad once, the second, third and numbering times will always be dubious.
*****
The trio are mentally ill - whatever 'type' of narcissism from overt, covert, antagonist, communal or malignant, it doesn't matter a narcissist is a narcissist. They will never ever stop - they get exited doing self harm/harm to others. The duo's employees are afraid to tell them the reality - objective truth rather than their warped subjective truth.
An example:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAX25QyXQAAexE7?format=jpg&name=small)
So, if I was an employee of the Sussexes, I'd show them the ''numbers'' which is the objective truth. There IS an ''upside'' here, the British Royal Family. Thanks to the duo (the trio), every time they trash Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine their polls improve, the worldwide 'curiosity' of why did the duo/trio trash them - worldwide read, find out more about the Senior Working Royals, a free publicity favorable to the monarchy, etc. This has been proved since Megxit. The duo's ''numbers'' are getting worse and worse until when?!
That the duo/trio do not want to see it has to do with mental illness, hence my lunacy reference - previous comment.
^^I think that the way Harry and Meghan treated both his grandparents in the last years of their lives is despicable period. For Meghan to make fun of HM with her curtsey was disgusting and made Harry look more like a fool just sitting there letting her do it....His grandparents gave them a very expensive wedding, Charles walked Meghan half way down the aisle for heaven's sake, they had everything handed to them and they turn around and treat HM and Prince Philip like yesterday's garbage that they step on...........NO way in hell should the royal family ever forgive that...*Period*.
And what they are doing now.......well, they have Nobody to blame but themselves if people shun them and don't want anything to do with them and the wedding in June, that there goes to show how people will not want them around for fear everything will be in a book or on TV if they talk to the Sussex's. Boy did they misjudge the book and the public big time.......it is coming back to hit them were it hurts the most...
^ That is why I also said in my lunacy reference comment that I actually think it is great this happened, a breaking point in the BRF 'long game' happens (ed) and we have to wait and see what direction/decisions the monarchy will go. And depending on that direction/decision....1000 year old firm with historical references of what when good, what can be improved, etc.
I see many fans in distress - understandably, BUT patience is key. The BRF know what they are doing, they know how to play the long game, yes there may be a bit of trials, mistakes, no one is perfect - meaning mind and body may be affected, but it is part and parcel of the 'constitutional monarchy'. There is NO QUESTION about it. Yes, part of the fan distress is ''but family should be first'', privately yes, but when two members go rogue publicly, the constitutional monarchy supersedse it.
I am glad you mentioned that about mental illness, I do believe Harry is suffering mentally, he gave up all he KNEW....everything for Meghan, his life, his country, his heritage, his traditions, his family, he just threw it all away for Meghan who makes fun of his grandmother, who has *NO* respect for those she can not control. It is all about her needing attention, admiration, money and position in life to suit what she wants her life to be. They really misjudged the reaction of the public to this book and it is coming back to bit them in the butt now. I can not fathom who would ever trust them again, believe in them and yet they need to make a living to keep up that lifestyle.
Now least we forget, there might be another book once all the drama of this book calms down, Meghan keep diaries during her time in the royal family........oh what those diaries could tell, right! I have already seen talk on the internet about those diaries so in a year or two maybe another book.
I can not see how the royal family can continue like this day in and day out with all the hell from Harry, Meghan and Omid, something has to give as this is mentally and emotionally damaging for everyone to live with this drama. Charles in not a young man either, I cut lots of people out of my life including family all because it was harmful to my mental health and believe me it was the best thing I could do for myself.
It's a fact. Criminal or lunatic behaviour has been professionally studied for centuries.
No common sense/socially acceptable behaviour in society act or behave privately or publicly as the duo (trio) have done. The multiple studies show that only mental illness people have done what the duo has done. 🤷🏻♀️
The laws impede the family to intervene. The laws in the USA has to be voluntarily or the legal binding husband or wife, or the government social services in the couple's case. The Biden government IS protecting someway ''Prince Harry'', by now or after Spare if there weren't any protection many questions would have been answered in reference to his drug taking, addiction, and the very public actions the duo have done since Megxit. This is a general acceptance known by both political parties.
Quote from: wannable on December 03, 2023, 02:26:39 PM
^ YES, all the royal rota was working two weeks straight from start to beginning. All the big, medium and small media outlets recorded the ''timeline'' of the day the late Queen Elizabeth II died. The timeline of William, Andrew, Edward and Sophie sitting at the tarmac whilst top staff telling Harry who was going and who wasn't going, having to resort to photographing a sad Catherine on the school run to pick up the children, etc. etc. etc. for Harry to understand that if he were to go it had to be him without the wife. Of course this timeline of events DOES bring other analytic articles of why did Harry insist in going with Meghan when both snubbed the Q during four year invitations. Only in death to what? Well the logical thing for anyone to think is to sell her death, because they already were selling half truths/half lies or full lies about her, stoking the fire and what not. For Harry and Meghan to get angry that the press analyze their actions is their own fault. Once you behave bad once, the second, third and numbering times will always be dubious.
*****
The trio are mentally ill - whatever 'type' of narcissism from overt, covert, antagonist, communal or malignant, it doesn't matter a narcissist is a narcissist. They will never ever stop - they get exited doing self harm/harm to others. The duo's employees are afraid to tell them the reality - objective truth rather than their warped subjective truth.
An example:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAX25QyXQAAexE7?format=jpg&name=small)
So, if I was an employee of the Sussexes, I'd show them the ''numbers'' which is the objective truth. There IS an ''upside'' here, the British Royal Family. Thanks to the duo (the trio), every time they trash Charles, Camilla, William and Catherine their polls improve, the worldwide 'curiosity' of why did the duo/trio trash them - worldwide read, find out more about the Senior Working Royals, a free publicity favorable to the monarchy, etc. This has been proved since Megxit. The duo's ''numbers'' are getting worse and worse until when?!
That the duo/trio do not want to see it has to do with mental illness, hence my lunacy reference - previous comment.
then who leaked it. The boogeyman
then who leaked the car ride from the walk both couples did after QE died and really, that presentation was phoned and not necessary? Santa Claus.
Regardless of what the Sussex's say (as it is very hard to believe any thing from them as we all have read their lies time and time again) it had to be from the Sussex's camp...the car ride, does anyone really think that William and Catherine would spell anything about the car ride, they of all people have kept their mouths shut and zipped for years now so it had to be Harry and or Meghan or both. I really believe Meghan wanted the names released now, it is the holidays and they are getting free publicity over this, they are in the news daily regardless of good or bad news, it is still making them seem like they are still part of the royal family. The Sussex's don't realize they have lost the most important thing in the world to people, *TRUST.... that is something a person gains in tiny drops and lost in huge buckets when betrayed never to be gained back again*, that came from someone I love dearly, my sister. They are done for and the only way to be back in the news is through the royal family and Harry with all his anger and rage at them for not what, saying sorry or anyother ills he has thought of will never stop tormenting the royal family, this will go on for the rest of his life as that is *all he knows* so he will become seem as a very disturbed prince with an empty title as the title Duke of Sussex's means nothing now that he is no longer a working royal.
Do you think that Kate saying that the looking at the flowers at Windsor with Harry and Meghan after the Queen?s death was ?one of the hardest things? she had ever had to do? and it was reported she told friends that, came from the Sussex camp?
Because I certainly don?t. It sounds like it came from Kate to me. And if she told friends that months later then she could very well have been either telling friends that there was silence in the car, or intimating it was so to KP staff or to the King?s staff. After all that?s how members of the RF get their messages out to the RRs and through the media to the general British public. And she may well have so resented being told to do it all by the King?s PS that she could have told several people and so it spread.
Kate says Windsor walkabout with Harry and Meghan was 'the hardest thing' she ever had to do | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-11949903/Kate-says-Windsor-walkabout-Harry-Meghan-hardest-thing-do.html)
?The Princess of Wales told a senior royal it was so difficult for her because of the 'ill-feeling' between the couples, veteran royal correspondent Robert Jobson says. (He is an RR and author of the book ?Our King?.)
The new book, called Our King - serialised in The Daily Mail and The Mail on Sunday this weekend - lays bare the inside story of the Royals' war with the Sussexes before, during and after Megxit.
?Kate and William's appearance with Harry and Meghan to greet well-wishers and view the flowers outside the gates of Windsor Castle came two days after the Queen's death at the age of 96 in September last year.
?To many, the couples' joint walkabout - said to have been William's idea to put on a show of unity - might have seemed like some kind of reconciliation. (It?s later been revealed that it wasn?t William?s idea; Charles wished the Waleses to do it. And the Sussexes werent too keen on the idea either, but both couples did it.)
But Mr Jobson says sources close to the royal family have confirmed to him that was an 'illusion'.
'Catherine later admitted to a senior royal that, such was the ill feeling between the two couples, the joint walkabout was one of the hardest things she'd ever had to do,' he writes.?
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Quote from: Nightowl on December 04, 2023, 09:07:55 AM
**she could very well have been either telling friends that there was silence in the car**,
You do not know that for a FACT, that is an assumption your part. I take it as since the Wales have kept their mouths shut for *YEARS* now why would they all of sudden talk....they didn't as the code of silence in this situation is made of a tough lady, HM. Opening their mouths puts them in a tit for tat situation and that they have NOT done yet the Sussex's just don't know when to shut their mouths as we all have heard and read these last few years.
I can believe that the walkabout was the hardest thing the Wales did after all just look at how deeply the death of HM affected the entire royal family expect for the Sussex's and I do NOT believe Meghan had any remorse in her for HM and what the other family members were going through, Harry and Meghan did not want to visit HM in her last years, they turned down all her invites and yet Harry has some nerve wanting Meghan with him at Balmoral, I honestly believe there is till very hard feelings because of that. He really messed up that trip and has some nerve blaming William. Oh Karma is doing her thing right now.
Then why did Kate ?suddenly talk? about ?the walk at Windsor being ?the hardest thing she had done? after being silent for years as you put it? Robson didn?t accuse the Sussexes of being behind that revelation. He states in his Charles biography that she spoke about it to ?another royal. So that royal recipient presumably tattled to Robson and probably others about it, or a member of staff or a courtier who overheard it did.
And if Kate was prepared to let that get into the public domain why not other things? The truth is that people in the Royal Households leak like a sieve to RRs things that they wish to get out into the public domain. And sometimes staff get paid to tell the media what they?ve heard at first, second and third hand. That has always happened at least since the War, and has been more prevalent than ever in the past thirty years. How else do you think the story about Kate and the walk got out? That Robson made it up specially for his book, lol!
I have no doubt at all that the Sussexes, at least Meghan and probably both, are behind this book. It's just like with the first book--way too much personal information for it to come from anyone else.
Quote from: Curryong on December 04, 2023, 10:14:34 AM
Then why did Kate ?suddenly talk? about ?the walk at Windsor being ?the hardest thing she had done? after being silent for years as you put it? Robson didn?t accuse the Sussexes of being behind that revelation. He states in his Charles biography that she spoke about it to ?another royal. So that royal recipient presumably tattled to Robson and probably others about it, or a member of staff or a courtier who overheard it did.
And if Kate was prepared to let that get into the public domain why not other things? The truth is that people in the Royal Households leak like a sieve to RRs things that they wish to get out into the public domain. And sometimes staff get paid to tell the media what they?ve heard at first, second and third hand. That has always happened at least since the War, and has been more prevalent than ever in the past thirty years. How else do you think the story about Kate and the walk got out? That Robson made it up specially for his book, lol!
I don't know for sure Catherine said that, it was reported in the news, it could be fake for all I know. Yet if she did say it, I would agree with her, why walk with people that hate you, why waste your precious time on earth being in the company of people that betrayed the country, the monarchy and the royal family?
I have NO idea who gets paid what in the royal family and if you know of staff that gets paid please let us know since you reported royals paid staff to leak info about them.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on December 04, 2023, 10:18:52 AM
I have no doubt at all that the Sussexes, at least Meghan and probably both, are behind this book. It's just like with the first book--way too much personal information for it to come from anyone else.
I agree with you 100%, both Harry and Meghan's DNA is all over this book and even it they shut it out to the heaven's nobody is going to believe them as they did it with the 1st book, Finding Freedom, think they cound *freedom* yet, I sure don't. In fact they are looking very desperate for that royal connection label right now to increase their bank account no doubt.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on December 04, 2023, 10:18:52 AM
I have no doubt at all that the Sussexes, at least Meghan and probably both, are behind this book. It's just like with the first book--way too much personal information for it to come from anyone else.
I haven?t bought it yet. It?s going to be a birthday present for me delivered in a few days. But apparently Scobie gives sources. And I know from decades of royal watching that there are plenty of sources in the Royal Households ready and willing to talk about other royals, other Households at any time, sometimes on behalf of their royal employers and sometimes just if the price is right.
This latest conversation comes from Robert Jobson's book, Our King.
Robert knows the 'timeline' as all the royal rota the day the Queen died - W, A, E and S sitting in the jet at the tarmac over one hour whilst H was dealing with his wife, meanwhile the Sussex Camp issued a first official communication that the couple were going to Balmoral, after a few hours they issued a second and final communication H was going alone. By the time the couple finished discussing or fighting - the Jet did not wait for him any longer and took off.
In Omid's book he rewrites the story gaslighting W is mean, didn't answer H, etc. etc. full blame to his brother. The RR notes of the timeline: It wasn't William's decision, it was Charles and his household who told H the wife can't go to the Q deathbed.
In Robert's book he does use the objective truth about the timeline and adds Catherine had a hard time with the Windsor walk, considering the behaviour of the duo 48 hours ago. One has to consider that Catherine was close to the Q, she did not skip any of the family holiday gatherings, was trusted to take the private family pictures, I'll go further with a pointer by a small handful of RR's stating that the Q and C had a private conversation - no one knows what was spoken, the Q had ordered everyone out of her bedroom (Balmoral). The RR notes: Catherine was included to go to Balmoral, but because of the decision that the Q did not want to see Meghan, her son Charles was dealing with H telling him the condition to go. Charles requested Catherine to sacrifice going, so Meghan won't go. This is where allegedly the Q had a private no witnesses phonecall with C.
So after saying that, IMO Robert does have his staff sources within the palace walls. Omid does not - he has zero.
ETA: There is too much information from both camps to date that indicate that both Harry and Meghan have a serious envy, obsession and rivalry with William and Catherine. It is all in the duo's heads alone.
There are many mistakes in Omid's book
He claims that Carole and Mike use their daughter's status by taking advantage of the Windsor airport waiting room, Camilla Tominey yesterday said that Carole and Mike have never used the W watiting room, but Doria has. She goes on stating that Meghan has an obsession with Catherine and named a long list of things that happened, which was so see through. It's pay per view but some people have shared the Archive of the article. He claims Catherine had 6 PA's in 6 years, Camilla Tominey said 100% ALL the RR's know there were 3 in 6, 2 years per each. That Omid is blatantly lying about 6. This push back by all RR's and surprisingly by many US and Australian journalists who are let's say wiser now after a few years learning is causing Omid's book to not reach best seller.
Today, Sir Trevor Phillips masterpiece essay in the Times gives a double slap to Omid. I believe this article will be available for everyone to view in a few hours due to public request to let the article be free from pay per view.
BREAKING:
REVEALED: Omid Scobie's UK agent 'DID send draft manuscript naming two 'royal racists' to be translated into Dutch', exposing under-fire author's weasel words that he had 'never submitted a book that had those names in it' - as Palace mulls legal action
Meghan seriously damaged her credibility with "Finding Freedom".
Scobie's credibility isn't looking great either.
^Harry, Meghan and Omid's credibility are shot. Watch them go deeper desperate in the next few days. I hear a Christmas picture of the Duo's family to be issued tomorrow the 5th (King Charles Diplomatic Reception at BP) or the 8th (Catherine's Christmas at Westminster Abbey that is now a yearly thing). IF it's true - I am betting on the 8th. According to Neil Sean, WMA has ordered Meghan to make a family Christmas picture that is ''clear'' to see rather than woke. This is to cover/forget the Variety red carpet stories popping up in every corner of the USA, IOW she was a plus one of her agent at the event, table 12.
For what it's worth in reference to The Telegraph, Camilla Tominey's latest, Rebecca English, Richard Eden vocally express that their palace staff contacts have said that it was since Meghan entered the scene - they had to cover and hide many stories - in other words protect the duo's bad behaviour and in their head's rivalry/nemesis they had with W&C. That the then Duke and Duchess of Cambridge had it very seriously horrible with the shenanigans from H&M.
One has to consider Valentine Low and Tom Bower's book describing the Sussex Survival Club quotes about H&M.
Off to work, have a nice start of the week everyone.
Quote from: wannable on December 04, 2023, 12:02:26 PM
BREAKING:
REVEALED: Omid Scobie's UK agent 'DID send draft manuscript naming two 'royal racists' to be translated into Dutch', exposing under-fire author's weasel words that he had 'never submitted a book that had those names in it' - as Palace mulls legal action
I will say that, as of now at least, I don't think the Palace should take legal action. That gives Scobie's book more dignity and weight than it deserves, and more people are supportive of the Royal Family anyway. I think they've said enough with the classic "Recollections may vary," and there's no need for them to comment further.
Although it is entertaining to think of Scobie having to testify about his sources under oath.
Now, whether the Dutch translator and publishers should consider legal action is another matter. By saying that they made such a serious mistake, or just simply pulled two names out of thin air for the fun of it--I think he has (attempted to) damage their reputation which could have financial ramifications and be a legal matter.
Thank you so much Wannable for all this info, the plane mess got me to see that Catherine was extremely beloved by HM and she gave up seeing HM to help Charles when his mother died. There is so much hate, jealousy and disrespect coming from the Sussex's to the royal family that it makes me wonder how anyone could support them knowing how mean spirited and hateful they are in character, maybe they do this to other people that have what they want so they attack anyone to get what they want.......hope that makes sense to you. They are the most disgusting human beings ever...I so feel sorry for their children living in that environment.
Does the fans dare (.) now seeing how Omid has LIED and LIED over and over again....book sales are not what they expected either....so money is not flowing into their bank accounts.
SHAME on the Sussex's .......again, another fake book! Are publisher's that desperate for a new book on royals to print that they would risk their reputation on printing a book of LIES *again*?
Quote from: wannable on December 04, 2023, 12:27:31 PM
^Harry, Meghan and Omid's credibility are shot. Watch them go deeper desperate in the next few days. I hear a Christmas picture of the Duo's family to be issued tomorrow the 5th (King Charles Diplomatic Reception at BP) or the 8th (Catherine's Christmas at Westminster Abbey that is now a yearly thing). IF it's true - I am betting on the 8th. According to Neil Sean, WMA has ordered Meghan to make a family Christmas picture that is ''clear'' to see rather than woke. This is to cover/forget the Variety red carpet stories popping up in every corner of the USA, IOW she was a plus one of her agent at the event, table 12.
For what it's worth in reference to The Telegraph, Camilla Tominey's latest, Rebecca English, Richard Eden vocally express that their palace staff contacts have said that it was since Meghan entered the scene - they had to cover and hide many stories - in other words protect the duo's bad behaviour and in their head's rivalry/nemesis they had with W&C. That the then Duke and Duchess of Cambridge had it very seriously horrible with the shenanigans from H&M.
One has to consider Valentine Low and Tom Bower's book describing the Sussex Survival Club quotes about H&M.
Off to work, have a nice start of the week everyone.
I guess we will see if any Sussex Christmas pictures appear over the next few days. :wink:
I certainly do believe that Palace staff had their hands full trying to deal with Harry and Meghan, who frequently behave like spoiled children. I definitely remember reading that staff saying it was like dealing with a couple of teenagers and I believe it based on Harry and Meghan's own words and actions.
Quote from: Curryong on December 04, 2023, 10:14:34 AM
Then why did Kate ?suddenly talk? about ?the walk at Windsor being ?the hardest thing she had done? after being silent for years as you put it? Robson didn?t accuse the Sussexes of being behind that revelation. He states in his Charles biography that she spoke about it to ?another royal. So that royal recipient presumably tattled to Robson and probably others about it, or a member of staff or a courtier who overheard it did.
And if Kate was prepared to let that get into the public domain why not other things? The truth is that people in the Royal Households leak like a sieve to RRs things that they wish to get out into the public domain. And sometimes staff get paid to tell the media what they?ve heard at first, second and third hand. That has always happened at least since the War, and has been more prevalent than ever in the past thirty years. How else do you think the story about Kate and the walk got out? That Robson made it up specially for his book, lol!
This isn't about Catherine talking for this woman has NOT opened her mouth in public unlike the Sussex's so there is NO blame on Catherine at all. Please produce the names of staff that got paid to leak the lives of the Wales okay....you keep mentioning it so there must be PROOF of who is doing it?
Quote from: wannable on December 04, 2023, 12:27:31 PM
^Harry, Meghan and Omid's credibility are shot. Watch them go deeper desperate in the next few days. I hear a Christmas picture of the Duo's family to be issued tomorrow the 5th (King Charles Diplomatic Reception at BP) or the 8th (Catherine's Christmas at Westminster Abbey that is now a yearly thing). IF it's true - I am betting on the 8th. According to Neil Sean, WMA has ordered Meghan to make a family Christmas picture that is ''clear'' to see rather than woke. This is to cover/forget the Variety red carpet stories popping up in every corner of the USA, IOW she was a plus one of her agent at the event, table 12.
For what it's worth in reference to The Telegraph, Camilla Tominey's latest, Rebecca English, Richard Eden vocally express that their palace staff contacts have said that it was since Meghan entered the scene - they had to cover and hide many stories - in other words protect the duo's bad behaviour and in their head's rivalry/nemesis they had with W&C. That the then Duke and Duchess of Cambridge had it very seriously horrible with the shenanigans from H&M.
One has to consider Valentine Low and Tom Bower's book describing the Sussex Survival Club quotes about H&M.
Off to work, have a nice start of the week everyone.
That is to be *expected* anymore, every time there is a royal event the Sussex's must do something, show pictures of what who knows, talk to a reporter, work on another book and tell everyone about it, just something to make it look like they are important to the royal family and world, well it has become clear that is how they operate, and nobody pays attention to them expect their fan club who are just the same type of characters they are....and we all know what they are like by now.
Mental illnes, it must be a sorry sight to get love, admiration and feelings of greatness from strangers that you will never really know in a personal manner..that is being every insecure and weak within yourself as a person.....the trio are mentally sick and it is showing up in all that they do now......just more LIES on top of more LIES. I would think that other royal families in the world are watching this and thinking we do not want these people in our lives ever.
Omid Scobie's book Endgame drops out of Amazon's top 100 list and sits behind the Beano Annual and Diary of a Wimpy Kid - as copies disappear from (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12822849/omid-scobie-endgame-book-drops-amazon-100-list.html)
REVEALED: Omid Scobie's UK agent 'DID send draft manuscript naming two 'royal racists' to be translated into Dutch', exposing under-fire author's (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12821593/Omid-Scobies-UK-agent-sent-draft-Endgame-manuscript-naming-two-royal-racists-translated-Dutch.html)
Trevor Phillips calls Omid Scobie's allegations about 'racist royals' 'nonsense' - amid growing backlash at his relentless twisting of the knife - and (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12813625/trevor-phillips-omid-scobie-racist-royals-allegation-nonsense-race-row-dutch-endgame.html)
Biden name drops Prince Harry and his role in the Invictus Games as the Royal Family is embroiled in the fallout from Omid Scobie's race revelations - (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12811869/Biden-drops-Prince-Harry-royal-racist-row.html)
That good for President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden
Quote from: Nightowl on December 04, 2023, 12:47:48 PM
This isn't about Catherine talking for this woman has NOT opened her mouth in public unlike the Sussex's so there is NO blame on Catherine at all. Please produce the names of staff that got paid to leak the lives of the Wales okay....you keep mentioning it so there must be PROOF of who is doing it?
So you do think that RR Robert Robson is a liar in reporting what Kate said to another Royal. Its in his latest biography of Charles called ?Our King?. Well, Kate had better sue him then and do it quickly as the bio has been published.
And reporters never reveal their sources. The RRs often speak to members of the Royal Households and quote ?a source? in their articles and books when writing about a story. They certainly don?t just rely on what the Press Offices tell them. And money does sometimes change hands for very important information.
The now disgraced Dan Wootton used Christian Jones who worked for the Sussexes then the Waleses and that was how, according to the Byline Times, Wootton, then an editor of the Sun, got the information exclusively that the Sussexes were departing for Canada.
According to the Byline Times the conduit was Jones?s domestic partner, a male, who was given 4000 pounds for it. As Neil Sean always says in his tittle tattle ?of course we have to say ?allegedly?. Wootton certainly didn?t get his exclusive from the official KP Press Office of the time.
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I am not going to do tit for tat with you, I don't know as much about anything in life like you do, so keep it. I don't pretend to know all about royals, I like learning from positive resources, not negative ones.
Harry and Meghan have destroyed their very souls for money and fame, so let them, yet as we all have SEEN their way is all about trashing the royal family, they have NOTHING else to see sell in life. Nothing positive, they have EMPTY titles as they mean nothing now since they left the firm....what great works have they done, what have they produced for the long game, *nothing*. Done
Nobody should take Catherine Windsor walk as a weakness or something negative. It is the resilience she had to endure walking with the duo 48 hours after they behaved so badly thinking about themselves without a thought. Everyone knew in the royal family once the narcissists deployed their first statements
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Super Crass 🤡 because of that duo statement the entire famous timeline. Note that during the day the Q died nobody issued a statement but the Californians. The delusional duo actually think themselves the most important thing of the day. That is why I said they even wanted to sell the Q death. The duo in their head are more important than her.
It is actually via Jobson a public message to the duo, you have no chance of ever getting close to the future Queen. Adios 👋
Quote from: wannable on December 05, 2023, 02:16:38 AM
Nobody should take Catherine Windsor walk as a weakness or something negative. It is the resilience she had to endure walking with the duo 48 hours after they behaved so badly thinking about themselves without a thought. Everyone knew in the royal family once the narcissists deployed their first statements
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Harry and Meghan are going to Balmoral
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Super Crass 🤡 because of that duo statement the entire famous timeline. Note that during the day the Q died nobody issued a statement but the Californians. The delusional duo actually think themselves the most important thing of the day. That is why I said they even wanted to sell the Q death. The duo in their head are more important than her.
It is actually via Jobson a public message to the duo, you have no chance of ever getting close to the future Queen. Adios 👋
It was Scobie that issued that statement not Harry or Meghan. And What makes you think that Harry or Meghan want to ?get close? to Kate at all, though Kate certainly wanted and enjoyed Harry?s friendship when she first joined the RF. Giggling on the BP balcony at Harry?s jokes, anyone?
And Kate is not Queen yet. It could well be another twenty years + and a lot can happen in the UK in two decades, when William and Kate will be in their sixties.
And it is clear. When the King or King?s PS ?requests? something she and William jump. Andrew needed a lift back from church. Request from Charles, followed by requisite jump of Andrew into the Wales?s car. Whether they liked it or not. The same with the Windsor walk. Request from King?s PS to William. Jump. Whether they like it, want to or not in the future. Jump.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on December 04, 2023, 12:35:40 PM
I will say that, as of now at least, I don't think the Palace should take legal action. That gives Scobie's book more dignity and weight than it deserves, and more people are supportive of the Royal Family anyway. I think they've said enough with the classic "Recollections may vary," and there's no need for them to comment further.
Although it is entertaining to think of Scobie having to testify about his sources under oath.
Now, whether the Dutch translator and publishers should consider legal action is another matter. By saying that they made such a serious mistake, or just simply pulled two names out of thin air for the fun of it--I think he has (attempted to) damage their reputation which could have financial ramifications and be a legal matter.
Yes I agree that the Dutch translators and publishers might consider legal action now that the truth has been revealed.
Quote from: Curryong on December 05, 2023, 03:04:57 AM
It was Scobie that issued that statement not Harry or Meghan. And What makes you think that Harry or Meghan want to ?get close? to Kate at all, though Kate certainly wanted and enjoyed Harry?s friendship when she first joined the RF. Giggling on the BP balcony at Harry?s jokes, anyone?
And Kate is not Queen yet. It could well be another twenty years + and a lot can happen in the UK in two decades, when William and Kate will be in their sixties.
And it is clear. When the King or King?s PS ?requests? something she and William jump. Andrew needed a lift back from church. Request from Charles, followed by requisite jump of Andrew into the Wales?s car. Whether they liked it or not. The same with the Windsor walk. Request from King?s PS to William. Jump. Whether they like it, want to or not in the future. Jump.
No, I disagree.
Omid Scobie
@scobie
A Sussex spokesman confirms that Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex will be traveling to Scotland.
8 Sep 2022
Omid Scobie
@scobie
8 Sep 2022
Replying to
@scobie
*spokesperson
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In reference to Jumping, that is why the Sussexes quit or are made redundant. More than sufficient evidence that as a team or independent, someway or another there is a quitting or redundancy situation.
Quote from: TLLK on December 05, 2023, 05:24:11 AM
Yes I agree that the Dutch translators and publishers might consider legal action now that the truth has been revealed.
I rather hope they do. Whatever one thinks of Harry, Meghan, and the Royal Family, Scobie's behavior here against the Dutch translator/publisher is indefensible.
The publisher and translation Union in the Netherlands have the involved publisher/translator's back, the vote was 100% with the parties involved in that country. I read the article (with Google translate) yesterday, it was posted via X by the unions.
So on grounds of reputation they are good to further their small publishing company and the female translator caught in Omid's intention of making her the collateral damage. She was saved by Omid's UK Agent public confession. Salvaging whatever is left of the UK agent's own career.
After having said that, I'd have a go to recover the moneys to balance the expense the publisher had already done by publishing the first manuscript draft that was given to them, which had the names and other dozens of quotes that are not in the final manuscript (worldwide minus the Dutch), and a tidy compensation to the mental anguish Omid caused to the Translator. I also believe to sue Omid, they will need financial backers.
Also with the latest article of WME horrified about Endgame and associating it with Meghan. So basically WME also feels that Meghan's hands are all over that book. :unsure:
WME allowing the media to publish such a story, usually it's a preliminary statement of ending their relationship.
OUCH, the very famous newspaper The Hill has a thumbs down view of the Sussexes
Washington D.C., USA
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4340466-a-montecito-yankee-in-king-charles-court/
That is interesting that even that newspaper devoted to congress would have their say about the Sussex's. So what are they plotting next, a picture or something to try to bring the media attention on them when the royals have their next event? Or how about another Book or maybe Oprah can do another interview......she sure has stayed quiet inregards to them hasn't she...no public support from O's mouth at all nor GK for that matter. Being snarky this am.......need coffee...LOL
Quote from: wannable on December 05, 2023, 05:19:15 PM
OUCH, the very famous newspaper The Hill has a thumbs down view of the Sussexes
Washington D.C., USA
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4340466-a-montecito-yankee-in-king-charles-court/
From two extremely right wing contributors.
And that was to be expected!
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Scobie complains about having to rush his book to get it to the publishers, which is no excuse for a plethora historic inaccuracies. Actually it's a rubbish book - how he can say George III abdicated in 1820 - although I suppose he did abdicate life, meaning he died in 1820,
^ He didn't rush the book, he announced he was writing the book June 2022 to June 2023 is one year, basically the timeframe for any 'good' author.
Omid Scobie's book Endgame sold just 6,448 copies in Britain in its first five days despite storm of controversy - and has now plunged to 215 on the (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12831833/omid-scobie-book-endgame-prince-harry.html)
Omid Scobie insists controversial Endgame was 'written at lightning speed' (despite announcing book in July last year) amid fallout from race row (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12831539/omid-scobie-endgame-book-racist-royals.html)
Omid Scobie's 'unsure' body language deepens debate over royal race row | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1842838/omid-scobie-endgame-meghan-markle)
Omid Scobie mocked over Endgame sales by fellow royal author | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1842562/omid-scobie-endgame-sales-royal-family)
Dutch copy of Omid Scobie's Endgame to be auctioned off after book was pulled from shelves | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1842379/omid-scobie-endgame-dutch-version-auctioned)
King Charles, William and Kate held meeting after Omid Scobie bombshells | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1842114/royal-family-live-prince-harry-meghan-markle-endgame)
King Charles and Kate Middleton to meet tonight after being named in Omid Scobie book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/king-charles-kate-middleton-meet-31597797)
Omid Scobie's race-row sparking book Endgame sells just over 6,000 copies - and is already at half price | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24971554/omid-scobie-endgame-flop-sales/)
Quote from: wannable on December 06, 2023, 01:56:06 PM
Dickie Arbiter LVO 🇬🇧
@RoyalDickie
Scobie complains about having to rush his book to get it to the publishers, which is no excuse for a plethora historic inaccuracies. Actually it's a rubbish book - how he can say George III abdicated in 1820 - although I suppose he did abdicate life, meaning he died in 1820,
^ He didn't rush the book, he announced he was writing the book June 2022 to June 2023 is one year, basically the timeframe for any 'good' author.
Do you think that perhapes Omid needs a history lesson and a new dictionary to know what the word abdicate means? With this book he is done for for good now.....his choice, his decision and his consequences! Now let the Sussex's suffer the same.
Quote from: Nightowl on December 06, 2023, 11:28:30 PM
Do you think that perhapes Omid needs a history lesson and a new dictionary to know what the word abdicate means? With this book he is done for for good now.....his choice, his decision and his consequences! Now let the Sussex's suffer the same.
I?m agreed with you
Quote from: wannable on December 06, 2023, 01:56:06 PM
Dickie Arbiter LVO 🇬🇧
@RoyalDickie
Scobie complains about having to rush his book to get it to the publishers, which is no excuse for a plethora historic inaccuracies. Actually it's a rubbish book - how he can say George III abdicated in 1820 - although I suppose he did abdicate life, meaning he died in 1820,
^ He didn't rush the book, he announced he was writing the book June 2022 to June 2023 is one year, basically the timeframe for any 'good' author.
I?m agreed with you
It sounds like Scobie was sloppy and lazy in doing any research for his tabloid novel. Many of these 'inaccuracies' are things that could have been checked and corrected pretty easily--if he had so desired. One must conclude that Scobie does not care much for writing truthful and accurate facts, hmm?
Very much so, it tells me that the cheesy Finding Freedom was written mostly by Carolyn Durand, and Omid was the receptor of Jason Knauf 30 plus emails and messages via his ex bosses Harry and Meghan
So Omit admits.
He lied 🤥
Is anybody surprised by Omid's *Lies*? We all suspected this, he lied as did the Sussex's about the *Finding Freedom* book and even Meghan got caught and went to court over that, so this book is supposed to be truthful when there are comments that are in the book that only the Sussex's knew about, the whole darn lives of the Sussex's have been a LIE. I was thinking about their wedding, who was invited, lots of Hollywood and it did not darn on me at the time yet with eveything that has gone on with them, they KNEW they were leaving the royal family even before the wedding, They just bid their time till they got up and ran away without telling anyone till after the fact...Instead of going to Balmoral for Christmas they ran to Canada first......I mean everything about this couple has been nothing but lies and revenge against the royal family .........just how many more years does anyone think they will keep this up with another book (Meghan's) and more interviews and podcasts or TV reality shows....will we be here 5 maybe 10 years from now still talking about the Sussex's Lies and books? Did anyone think that this has gone on this long, almost 4 years......
He is another narcissist.
First he did this:
Omid Scobie took the extraordinary step of swearing on his own life, and his family's, on live TV last night that the naming of two royals in the Dutch version of Endgame is not a 'stunt' to shift more copies of his book.
Then he did this:
Royal author confirms an 'early and uncleared text' of his book Endgame was sent to Dutch publishers who included the names in their translation.
^In the latter, he is patronising yet again in two instances; he doesn't apologize his first public declaration blaming the translators and placing an omen on his parents, he also states that people should not focus on his initial lie and his intention of collateral damage of civilian casualties livelihood BUT that people - the focus should be centered thanks to him about an open discussion about the British Royal family and Racisim. Pushing Meghan's - recollections may vary. Condecending - dilusion of grandeur, I am superior to you. Read the tone of it 🤮
On another note, after us the public having access now of a HMQEII/Sir Edward Young letter to RAVEC - I am understanding and much more convinced of what I said a few weeks ago in reference to Lady C said she knows more than what she herself said she can't publicly state, that the right appropriate and proper party (ies)/individual (s) will disclose in the immediate and mid future. My point in all this is what we can find/disclose as lies that have been made public by the duo inconsistent versions and their subjective vs objective - there seems to be a lot of secrets from the duo that we do not know ''yet''.
Lady C gave month/year of disclosures from appropriate individuals, I am now thinking NDA's that will effectively end, freedom to disclose. I support it, because ''that Sir Edward Young RAVEC letter'' brings to thought - how can a couple and their accomplices be so immoral to 'no matter what' destroy people with defamation, libel and slander.
This letter is a scandal to Harry who dedicated a page to Sir Edward Young, calling him a Bee and slurred him and 2 other Most Senior Staff. It wasn't enough he insulted him directly stating - he wants to ensure that his grandmother, the Queen, is ''protected'' and has the ''right people around her''. Then the Duo traduces their Sussexsquad to speak badly/hateful comments. Basically, the letter has OPENED EYES to many people in reference to basically the BRF/staffers involved in the duo's defaming - to keep composed, hold your tongue, keep calm and carry on - Grey rock them. Hold Hold Hold. WOW!!!
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on December 09, 2023, 10:38:32 AM
So Omit admits.
I like that nickname--he certainly does seem to 'omit' a lot of truth from his statements.
Sir Edward Young wrote to the Parliamentary Sec because he was obliged to. It was an agreement that had been formulated between all the royals at the ?Sandringham Summit.? The other senior royals had obviously agreed that Harry needed security. And so the Queen?s Private Secretary wrote the letter. His personal feelings towards Harry didn?t come into it. He was obliged, by his position at Court, to write that letter. A communication that states the Queen?s wishes about Harry?s security. If he had not done it he would have been obliged to resign.
Again I say, Sir Edward?s private feelings about the matter didn?t come into it. That however does not mean that he and other senior courtiers did not express negative feelings about the Sussexes to others at Court or that they did not act privately against the couple at times, allowing leaks to occur by others.
How do you write a minute note
Date and time of the meeting.
Names of the meeting participants and those unable to attend
Acceptance or corrections/amendments to previous meeting minutes.
Decisions made about each agenda item, for example: Actions taken or agreed to be taken. Next steps
Sir Edward Young is career professional with 20 years of experience working with/for a Monarch.
What were you expecting? He should not do what his boss asked him to do? What have an employee if the thought process is to rebel!?
What is your point? Harry trashed him, Harry is beside himself for the fool he is. Sir Edward Young did not trash Harry, he is more of a man, UP and Harry low
****
IMO the H sussexsquad fans in social media were happy yesterday, today realized - no surprise - angry with Jason Knauff, angry with Sir Edward Young. Wait for it, more to come, 100% sure of it now.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on December 09, 2023, 04:57:04 PM
I like that nickname--he certainly does seem to 'omit' a lot of truth from his statements.
:goodpost: :yesss:
Harry was born a royal prince yet he does not act like even a decent human being for the way he has treated his grandparents who gave him all he has in life. Harry is a bloody fool and does not deserve a darn thing from the royal family for after all he and wife RAN away to Canada, leaving the royal family the behind them with their LIES and NOBODY can put a spin on that they didn't LIE ever. We all here have seen how they are with those that don't OBEY them, give them what they want (hell what do they want), Harry know darn well that the royal family will NEVER play tit for tat ever so he uses that to try to get back at the royal family yet he sure in the heck wants the trappings and perks and money and fame of the royal family now doesn't he. Talk about being a hypocrite and 2 faced LIAR is now his reputation in life for the whole world to see.....nobody is knocking on his door asking him to work for them or wishing them a Merry Christmas for if someone did, it would be front page news.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on December 09, 2023, 04:57:04 PM
I like that nickname--he certainly does seem to 'omit' a lot of truth from his statements.
Touche! That is a very witty comment
@FanDianaFancy !
ROYAL ROW Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry
He suggests Meghan was insulted at Palace aides assigning Her Maj?s black equerry to make her ?feel comfortable?.
In his book Endgame, Scobie claims the suggested appointment of the Ghana-born Lieutenant Colonel ?stood out like a sore thumb?.
Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/25000706/omid-scobie-queen-elizabeth-racism-row-meghan-black-equerry/)
Omid stating that the Equerry stood out like a sore thumb is racist.
Combine this rejected help with other books of her rejecting Lady Susan Hussey, the then Sophie Wessex. White or black, old or young. It seems that unwittingly Omid is giving reason to Valentine Low/Tom Bower with the sing song that everyone tried to help her but she never wanted it. She had something against each help provided, then they gave her to pick her own help, the rest is history. It is the let them hang themselves adage.
Quote from: wannable on December 10, 2023, 02:39:38 PM
ROYAL ROW Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry
He suggests Meghan was insulted at Palace aides assigning Her Maj?s black equerry to make her ?feel comfortable?.
In his book Endgame, Scobie claims the suggested appointment of the Ghana-born Lieutenant Colonel ?stood out like a sore thumb?.
Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/25000706/omid-scobie-queen-elizabeth-racism-row-meghan-black-equerry/)
Omid stating that the Equerry stood out like a sore thumb is racist.
Combine this rejected help with other books of her rejecting Lady Susan Hussey, the then Sophie Wessex. White or black, old or young. It seems that unwittingly Omid is giving reason to Valentine Low/Tom Bower with the sing song that everyone tried to help her but she never wanted it. She had something against each help provided, then they gave her to pick her own help, the rest is history. It is the let them hang themselves adage.
Never insulted late Queen Elizabeth?s equerry unbelievable to Meghan definitely low blow!! 👎🏻
No matter King Charles or Prince William chosen any equerry races for jobs with future sovereign or current sovereign but im wishes Omid need kept his mouth shut up!! And Omid should not write about royals private business and royals private life that not okay with that
Is it the beginning of the end for Brand Sussex? PR experts say Meghan and Harry are facing a make-or-break 2024 because Hollywood has already 'had (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12840955/Meghan-Harry-Omid-Scobie-Hollywood.html)
'Hard to believe' that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry weren't aware of details in Endgame | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1844272/meghan-markle-prince-harry-endgame-omid-scobie)
The eight bombshells removed from new Dutch edition of Omid Scobie's Endgame | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1844203/omid-scobie-endgame-dutch-edition-new)
Omid Scobie's Endgame rereleased in Holland with 'hundreds' of changes | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1844013/omid-scobie-endgame-dutch-version-royal-racists)
Royal Family sends Omid Scobie a ?warning shot? over Endgame | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1843238/royal-family-omid-scobie-warning-shot-pr-experts)
Harry and Meghan 'distance' themselves from Omid Scobie as reunion with royals 'set back' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/harry-meghan-distance-themselves-omid-31644138)
'Sussex camp' make 'hundreds of changes' to new version of Omid Scobie's book - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/sussex-camp-make-hundreds-changes-31643907)
How ?classy? Kate Middleton will 'punish' Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after Omid Scobie ?racism? bombshell | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24974923/kate-middleton-punish-harry-meghan-markle-omid-scobie-book/)
Omid Scobie branded 'factually incorrect' by Dutch publisher after claiming he wasn't to blame for 'racist royals' leaks | (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24998022/omid-scobie-branded-factually-incorrect-publisher-endgame/)
Via friends of the Sussexes, directly from the Sussexes, it doesn't matter. The endgame is to ruin the monarchy and most importantly to ruin William and his family.
Basically IMO the trio, especially the duo are in the top 10 horrible parents. They have zero empathy of the titanic 'extra' job they have placed W and C in explaining the children, include the school principals, teachers and parents towards the students about the Omid' defamation.
This type of treachery is also going to affect their own children - it has - but this is another level.
The prince may have received up to $20 million in advance, according to reports, but despite topping the charts, only sold 1.2 million hardcovers.
He would have had to sell double to have made back the advance.
Bestselling celeb memoirs by Britney Spears, Prince Harry and others may have failed to earn back advances: report (https://nypost.com/2023/12/16/news/bestselling-celeb-memoirs-by-britney-spears-prince-harry-and-others-may-have-failed-to-earn-back-advances-report/)
^ Bravo for being a best seller BUT Lady C was right - I had made a comment around Jan 2023 in the RIF about what she had to say. Penguin Random House sent books in 'bulk' rather than pre orders from bookstores worldwide. Books that weren't sold were returned, but then at that time the marketing and PR strategy was to 'count' the bulk like if it were already sold, which was not.
The above article says that to be a 'financial success' Harry and Penguin would have had to sell the double of the 1.4Million books, roughly 3 million.
So to make it simple - Harry won, Penguin lost. Harry was paid an 'advance' by Penguin. Penguin can't retract the advance moneys, therefore H won but P lost 'financially. To date: Neil Sean said last night that for the 3 remaining books - IF H and M want the ''money deal left over'' no ghostwriter to save money - they will have to write it themselves, then a P editor will review the final draft, grammar corrections, legal department, print.
EXCLUSIVE: Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too white' for a divorcee, writes INGRID SEWARD in her revelatory new book
Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13038249/Prince-Philip-called-Meghan-DoW-reminded-Duchess-Windsor-Queen-thought-Givenchy-wedding-dress-white-divorcee-writes-INGRID-SEWARD-revelatory-new-book.html)
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on February 02, 2024, 05:12:20 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too white' for a divorcee, writes INGRID SEWARD in her revelatory new book
Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13038249/Prince-Philip-called-Meghan-DoW-reminded-Duchess-Windsor-Queen-thought-Givenchy-wedding-dress-white-divorcee-writes-INGRID-SEWARD-revelatory-new-book.html)
Read both of those quotes before, she?s repeating gossip from at least three years ago. And Ingrid has always played favourites with RF members since she first edited the glossy mag ?Majesty?. When Harry became engaged Ingrid did nothing but whitter on about Americans? table manners and how Meghan would have to learn how to hold her knife and fork ?properly?. She had been happy when Cressida B was dating Harry though, as Cressida?s mother and she were and are best friends.
So nothing Seward has to say about either of the Sussexes is at all unbiased.
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on February 02, 2024, 05:12:20 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too white' for a divorcee, writes INGRID SEWARD in her revelatory new book
Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13038249/Prince-Philip-called-Meghan-DoW-reminded-Duchess-Windsor-Queen-thought-Givenchy-wedding-dress-white-divorcee-writes-INGRID-SEWARD-revelatory-new-book.html)
Good lord!!
I?m sure late Duke of Edinburgh was right about Meghan is wicked and definitely Duchess of Windsor if Wallis was here today from heaven and she will not approve Meghan but im not judge Duke of Edinburgh because Prince Philip wouldn?t approved his grandchildren married divorce woman like Wallis Simpson but Meghan broke the rules and cross the line on late Queen Elizabeth and members of the royal family
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on February 02, 2024, 05:12:20 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too white' for a divorcee, writes INGRID SEWARD in her revelatory new book
Prince Philip called Meghan 'DoW' because she reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor... and the Queen thought her Givenchy wedding dress was 'too (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13038249/Prince-Philip-called-Meghan-DoW-reminded-Duchess-Windsor-Queen-thought-Givenchy-wedding-dress-white-divorcee-writes-INGRID-SEWARD-revelatory-new-book.html)
I had read about the Queen questioning why Meghan had opted for a white gown and veil for her second wedding.
The news that the DoE found Meghan reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor is new information for me.
Quote from: TLLK on February 03, 2024, 10:57:18 PM
I had read about the Queen questioning why Meghan had opted for a white gown and veil for her second wedding.
The news that the DoE found Meghan reminded him of the Duchess of Windsor is new information for me.
Seward has written this before, in her 2020 book ?Prince Philip revealed?. Apparently though it was gossip. She didn?t get it from the horse?s mouth so to speak.
Why Prince Harry?s Relationship with Prince Philip Still Hasn?t Recovered: ?This Has Been a Great Shock? | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/10/prince-harry-prince-philip-relationship)
And as for white gowns and veils for second weddings, although I didn?t do that myself twenty three years ago (too old!) those views, I believe would be typical of people of the late Queen?s generation. Those views weren?t and aren?t held by younger people. I could point to dozens of women in the public eye who have remarried in the past decade or so after being divorced and have worn white. What about Letizia of Spain for instance. Or was she excused being non virginal because she was marrying a future King?
And, just to point out, it was Prince Harry?s first wedding. So he was supposed to have a hole in the corner wedding with no fuss and his wife in a suit or something, according to SM people at the time simply because he was marrying a divorcee? Ridiculous.
Quote from: wannable on December 10, 2023, 02:39:38 PM
ROYAL ROW Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry
He suggests Meghan was insulted at Palace aides assigning Her Maj?s black equerry to make her ?feel comfortable?.
In his book Endgame, Scobie claims the suggested appointment of the Ghana-born Lieutenant Colonel ?stood out like a sore thumb?.
Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/25000706/omid-scobie-queen-elizabeth-racism-row-meghan-black-equerry/)
Omid stating that the Equerry stood out like a sore thumb is racist.
Combine this rejected help with other books of her rejecting Lady Susan Hussey, the then Sophie Wessex. White or black, old or young. It seems that unwittingly Omid is giving reason to Valentine Low/Tom Bower with the sing song that everyone tried to help her but she never wanted it. She had something against each help provided, then they gave her to pick her own help, the rest is history. It is the let them hang themselves adage.
Quote from: wannable on December 10, 2023, 02:39:38 PM
ROYAL ROW Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry
He suggests Meghan was insulted at Palace aides assigning Her Maj?s black equerry to make her ?feel comfortable?.
In his book Endgame, Scobie claims the suggested appointment of the Ghana-born Lieutenant Colonel ?stood out like a sore thumb?.
Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/25000706/omid-scobie-queen-elizabeth-racism-row-meghan-black-equerry/)
Omid stating that the Equerry stood out like a sore thumb is racist.
Combine this rejected help with other books of her rejecting Lady Susan Hussey, the then Sophie Wessex. White or black, old or young. It seems that unwittingly Omid is giving reason to Valentine Low/Tom Bower with the sing song that everyone tried to help her but she never wanted it. She had something against each help provided, then they gave her to pick her own help, the rest is history. It is the let them hang themselves adage.
Omid Scobie drags the Queen into racism row & suggests Meghan Markle was insulted at aides assigning Her Maj?s equerry | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/25000706/omid-scobie-queen-elizabeth-racism-row-meghan-black-equerry/)
Nothing,no one was good enough or enough from the day they got married.
There was nothing TQ n PC could have done to give, say, do, make , appease, please Megan n Harry too.
FC was not good enough. Harry living at the very small apt which was for one and temp , same place as others had stayed in was wrong. The wedding was wrong. ?in Oprah interview, they just wanted and did a private one just before with Archbishop. PC walking her down the aisle and support?to throw racism accusations at him.
When someone does not like you for whatever reason you have to be together , there is not a thing one can give , show, make , do , buy , say, etc to the one.
The latest book on BRF n MH by Seward, ehhhhh, say it is hearsay.
Ok. FACTS
What facts we do know is Ms wedding gown was blinding white. Lilbet Elizabeth was trademarked before the baby was born so about.
And a whole lot of shady stuff about MH we have all said before.
No-one is saying that Meghan?s wedding gown wasn?t blinding white.
However to the late Queen and her generation white for weddings was associated with virginity, and therefore white shouldn?t be used for second weddings. I pointed out in my last post that isn?t a view shared by many people under 50 years of age today. Hundreds of people have worn white and a veil for their second weddings in the last two decades or so, including Letizia at her wedding to the then future King of Spain.
Plus one could ask if every bride floating down the aisle at a first wedding in white and a veil would inevitably be a virgin. Extremely doubtful nowadays imo.
And if Queen Elizabeth had felt so strongly about the matter she would have said something to Meghan herself, not to one of her own elderly cousins.
So report are Harry is on his way, now, today, right now to see King Charles.
Well?..ehhhhhh?so if KCdid not have cancer, Harry and mouth piece, bestie, insider Omit ?.the rest of Sussex team , would be business as usual.
As when PP died and Harry was promoting his Oprah interview, the BRF will do as they did with him. Appease, be civil at a distance. Same as when QE died.
When there is a serious illness or death, Ido not buy the toxic,evil ones good graces. You nod, be polite, happy to see them to appease them, but focus is on those who are in your world and recovery, etc.
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on February 05, 2024, 06:45:14 PM
So report are Harry is on his way, now, today, right now to see King Charles.
Well?..ehhhhhh?so if KCdid not have cancer, Harry and mouth piece, bestie, insider Omit ?.the rest of Sussex team , would be business as usual.
As when PP died and Harry was promoting his Oprah interview, the BRF will do as they did with him. Appease, be civil at a distance. Same as when QE died.
When there is a serious illness or death, Ido not buy the toxic,evil ones good graces. You nod, be polite, happy to see them to appease them, but focus is on those who are in your world and recovery, etc.
Charles is his father, and there is much to that connection, no matter what has occurred over the past few years.
But it is not past years. It is now. Current. Omit , their friend, just took a nice knife stab at BRF.
Sussex main meal ticket is say some dirt on BRF. We like that stuff here in the USA. Just last year, Kerry Kennedy said, her own words,?..about awarding M due to overcoming racism, even via her married in family.
Right now, for now, for the next month or so Harry will probably give a cease fire. Omit will be on call to issue dirt as he did today.
See Omit?s Twitter regarding KC health.
It never ends and will never end. With a don like Harry, in the throes of his anger, depression, bitterness, all one can do is smile, nod, keep conversation cute, keep at arms length a time limit too.
I am sure, I hope Harry is not alone withKC and there is a time limit.
I know, no way Catherine will want to see him. She can use her recovery as an excuse.
Oh for him to see the Wales kids?.her parents are keeping them fir a week or?.between school ,ohhhh, another time. I would think William would only see him in front of aides and for a time limit.
Henry is simply not to be trusted.
Ex. The fiasco as the Q was dying with him wanting to bring Meg too.
The Qs anniversary celebration?no one was around to celebrate Lilbits birthday?drama leaked to the world of how awful to not create bonds of family.
The walk when QE passed away.
There is n always will be drama.
:goodpost:
And Harry will be Harry as usual, so keep a tape recorder near by to keep what is said between Harry and any other member of the royal family private. This is sad to think and say yet this is a money making situation for the Sussex's as that has been their main goal since they left, after all the drama they created while Prince Philip was dying and the last years of HM's life, and her funeral, who in their right mind think they are to be *Trusted* even in this sad situation? Harry takes orders or whatever from wife, so just be extremely careful of what is said around him.
It would be nice to think this could open a pathway to reconciliation, but unfortunately, Harry is just not trustworthy. He and Meghan had no respect or consideration for Prince Philip on his deathbed, nor for Queen Elizabeth as she was suffering the loss of her husband and then in her final years. So I hope Charles and the rest of the family will know to be very careful around Harry.
Iagree with both of you. By reports, it seems seeing his dad was all 45 mins at Clearance House
KC n C went then from BuckPal to Sandrigham.
Omid Scobie
@scobie
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Jan 23
A different vibe to the last time we saw PM Andrew Holness with members of the Royal Family?
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Omit knife jab at KC n BRF when MegHen was in Jamaica forMarley movie.
Ah, Omid, always classy...
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on February 07, 2024, 12:36:19 AM
Iagree with both of you. By reports, it seems seeing his dad was all 45 mins at Clearance House
KC n C went then from BuckPal to Sandrigham.
If Charles is receiving chemotherapy or radiation treatment then he is probably going to Sandringham to rest as such treatments are debilitating. However, there?s nothing stopping them seeing each other when Charles is next in London to see the PM and attending to other matters in a few days,, nor is there reason to suppose that Harry is banned from visiting Sandringham. Harry is due in Canada on the 14th -15th of this month in the run up to the next scheduled IG. Up till the 12th he could spend time at either of the above locations.
Quote from: Kristeh-H on February 06, 2024, 01:59:07 PM
It would be nice to think this could open a pathway to reconciliation, but unfortunately, Harry is just not trustworthy. He and Meghan had no respect or consideration for Prince Philip on his deathbed, nor for Queen Elizabeth as she was suffering the loss of her husband and then in her final years. So I hope Charles and the rest of the family will know to be very careful around Harry.
Yes, it is sad yet Harry and Meghan both brought this on themselves by back stabbing the royal family in the back with all their hate and lies. They have nobody to blame but themselves now. I care what is happening to Charles right now as he has the responsibility of the kingdom on his shoulders to take care of and Thank Goodness there is William who also has the responsibility of his family with Catherine in recovery right now....Harry, just go back to Ca and play polo and gather eggs from the chickens in your yard and leave the royal family in peace. Your most certainly not wanted in the UK for any reason. No royal duties for you ever again as so many of my friends have said on royal forums and social media.