Princess Education

[LuisVillegas]

Good morning,

I am building a conceptual model on woman identity and princess education is a cornerstone in it. Can you tell me which are the 10 most important characteristics of Princess education?

Best wishes of health, happiness and welfare,

Luis


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[princessealiénor]

for a crown princess, a princess from a royal family or other princesses?

[LuisVillegas]

Hello, Princessealiénor!

What is the difference?

[princessealiénor]

a crown princess is the future monarch (princess Victoria of Sweden she is the first crown princess on her own right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria,_Crown_Princess_of_Sweden
a princess from a royal family is like princess Madeleine of Sweden

a princess (HRH like princess Beatrice and Eugenie of York or HS like Charlotte Casiraghi etc.)

[princessealiénor]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.royalty/browse_thread/thread/86a3e9cd53ef0085

I found that in anotehre site!

[princessealiénor]

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9801E4DA173AEF33A25752C0A9629C94699FD7CF&oref=slogin

[Jenee]

I think it is safe to say this poster is not coming back...

[LuisVillegas]

Why my message "Princess Education" was blocked???

I posted it in various message boards due to the low number of replies.

I am still on this issue. I just come back to this forum weekly, not daily.

Can I continue my discussion???

[Jenee]

:shrug: I assumed you were a spammer

[princessealiénor]

1. A princess has to learn to respect the other one.
2.                         be generous with her compatriotes
3.  has to be well educated, well-mannered and in the same time down to earth and normal (they always want to be normal)
4. being dutyfull
5. try to cope with the media attention
6. a princess can party but I think that discretion is a must

There is no reason to post 6 times in a row, when one will do

[LuisVillegas]

Interesting insight, Princessealiénor. I have some more questions for you:

Do you agree that princesses can be role models? Can they be women models to pursue?
Do you think they have a strong sense of feminity? Why or why not?
Do you agree that an ideal / dream of a woman is to be a princess?
What other important values do you think most princesses have?

Best regards,

Luis R. Villegas H.
LVVL1000 (at) hotmail.com

[princessealiénor]

I agree with the fact that they can be role models and above all crown princesses (futur reigning queen or:and the wife of a crown prince)
because they are following by press and paparazzi and cameras. I don't that to be drunk in public is a good idea (example: William and Harry), of course they can party with their friends!

Princesses can be women models to pursue and more precisely in fashion  but that's not an obligation! we can pursue their models in charity for example, the way they want to help people.

If they have a strong sense of feminity depend of their personality if they are crown princesses, people want that their princesses to have a strong sense of feminity.

I do not agree that an ideal is to be a princess.

for me they have to be humble, down to earth, being a woman of our time (they also keep traditional values)

here some example of princesses (born into a royal family or married to a crown prince)

http://www.royalcourt.se/royalcourt/theroyalfamily/hrhcrownprincessvictoria/biography.4.396160511584257f2180001679.html
http://www.royalcourt.se/royalcourt/theroyalfamily/hrhprincessmadeleine/biography.4.396160511584257f2180004579.html


http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_en_fam_mary
http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_en_fam_marie
http://www.casareal.es/sar_princesa/index-ides-idweb.html

about Queen Rania , she married a prince whom becomes King
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Rania
http://www.queenrania.jo/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margrethe_II_of_Denmark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Beatrix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elisabeth_II

more precisely what sort of princess Luis you are focusing?
a crown princess like Victoria of Sweden, a crown princess whom married a crown prince (Letizia, Mary, Maxima, Mathilde, etc.), a HRH or HIRH(born into a royal family/ imperial family) like Madeleine of Sweden, Beatrice of York, a HH princess, a HS princess (Caroline and Stephanie of Monaco)

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[LuisVillegas]

Hello, Princessealiénor.

Another time, your insight was very interesting. Your question about what sort of princess I am focusing is difficult to answer and let me tell you why:

As I said before, I am building a conceptual model on woman identity. This model tries to define and explain the existence of a typical woman. It is divided in three parts. One of those parts tries to explain in brief words which are the ideals (ideal values or characteristics) of a woman. So far, I have considered the next items: Feminity, External Beauty, Internal Beauty, Elegance, Intelligence, Pleasure, Wisdom, Desire, and Wealth. However, I am not sure these may be the best possibilities for a woman. So, I decided to begin a search for the "ideal model" or "ideal role model" of a woman in society. I finally got to the royal princesses, but I have not selected a specific role of a princess.

Summarizing, I am interested in the ideal values / characteristics of a woman, and I am thinking that a princess may have these. What do you think? Am I searching in the right direction? What other role model should I consider? Where can I find these ideal values or characteristics?

Best regards,

Luis R. Villegas H.
LVVL1000 (at) hotmail.com

[princessealiénor]

I like Queen Rania as an example, a role model, she was before a princess

[Kuei Fei]

Royal females are usually taught to be polite and courteous and careful as to what they say at all times.

It's not all about simply being hugely academic or highly accomplished in terms of career. Royal born princesses are usually toughened from birth, they have to do things and master things their less illustrious peers are exempt from. They have to put up with more, master etiquette and international protocol, understand their lives are not entirely their own, take a broader view of things and show their vulnerabilities as little as possible. Since they are living representatives of their countries they have to be on their best behavior and their childhoods are geared toward teaching them these things.

A lot of commoner women don't do well because they have to get used to losing a private life, doing things they normally wouldn't find enjoyable and since it's not part of their nature to not have a say in their life, that's where the problems occur. The press sympathizes, but I don't anymore.

Lots of people think Alexandra of Denmark was a perfect princess, but I think she was largely a failure. If each and every single royal female walked away because of infidelity or not feeling fulfilled, royal families would have fractured a long time ago. In the past royal princesses understood their lives were sacrifices to politics and I wonder what a lot of modern women would have thought at having to leave their native land without seeing it ever again and being in a family that only needed them because they represented a large territorial or diplomatic gain.

Modern princesses are incredibly lucky that they have the life they have and I really don't sympathize with a lot of them who marry in and don't even bother to stick with something less than fulfilling or because they want to have a say over their daily itinerary or want to see their children.

[princessealiénor]

http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,32172.0.html

[LuisVillegas]

Princessealiénor,

If you were asked to describe Queen Rania with ten words, which would those be?

Luis R. Villegas H.
LVVL1000 (at) hotmail.com

[princessealiénor]

generous, down to earth, dutyfull, well educated, well mannered, respectfull, discret,

[LuisVillegas]

Thank you, Princess Ealiénor.

I will use your input in my conceptual model. Would you like to add something else?

Best,

Luis R. Villegas H.
LVVL1000 (at) hotmail.com

[LuisVillegas]

Anyone else? Someone that would like to talk about princesses' education and values?

[princessealiénor]

you have to ask the other members of this forum, because you just have my view

[Jenee]

I am building a conceptual model on woman identity and princess education is a cornerstone in it. Can you tell me which are the 10 most important characteristics of Princess education?

In no particular order:
1. Poise
2. Diplomacy
3. Economics
4. Politics
5. Current events (obviously, this is an ongoing process)
6. History
7. The Arts
8. Business
9. The art of conversation and public speaking
10. Erm. Grammar. Grammar is always good

:wink:

Do you agree that princesses can be role models? Can they be women models to pursue?
Do you think they have a strong sense of feminity? Why or why not?
Do you agree that an ideal / dream of a woman is to be a princess?
What other important values do you think most princesses have?

1. Yes - everyone is a role model to someone.  A Princess, or anyone who is in the public eye, will have a greater effect on a greater number of people, and therefore needs to keep in mind that she IS a role model and should act like one.

2. I think that is up to the individual and not dependent on whether they are a Princess or not.

3. I disagree.

4. A strong sense of loyalty to crown and country. I think CP Victoria is the ideal Princess- that woman is amazing!

[LuisVillegas]

Thank you for your valuable insight, Jenee.

If you were asked to describe CP Victoria with ten (or less) words, which would those be?

Best,

Luis R. Villegas H.

[LuisVillegas]

Anyone else? Someone that would like to talk about princesses' education and values?