A thread for the Sussex Family's General News not related to their charity work, current events, birthdays, etc...
Prince Harry sells ?50,000 hunting rifles as Dr Jane Goodall says 'Meghan doesn't like hunting' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8290871/Prince-Harry-sells-50-000-hunting-rifle-Dr-Jane-Goodall-says-Meghan-doesnt-like-hunting.html)
In USA is $62,000 and in UK pounds is ?50,000
Prince Harry flogs handmade hunting rifles worth ?50,000 after giving up hunting to please Meghan ? The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11557382/prince-harry-flogs-rifles-please-meghan/)
That so ridiculous idea on meghan I dont know if HM Queen,Prince Charles And William would have to says
It makes sense to him and his wife is all what matters.
Secondary is everything else, they won't be going to any countryside hunting and shooting.
I agree
@wannable. If Prince Harry has decided to give up shooting and hunting then there doesn't seem to be any reason for him to hold on to his rifles anymore. :)
According to the article from The Sun, he sold them five months ago. Prince Harry flogs handmade hunting rifles worth ?50,000 after giving up hunting to please Meghan ? The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11557382/prince-harry-flogs-rifles-please-meghan/)
QuoteHarry, 35, was also absent from the recent shoots at Balmoral and Sandringham. He sold his two British-made guns five months ago ? before he and Meghan, 38, quit the UK for a new life in North America.
A friend of the anonymous buyer said: ?He bought them because he wanted them, not because they belonged to Harry, but he was quite chuffed when he found out. They are beautiful examples and he?s very pleased with them but he?s not the sort of person who wants to boast about the royal connection.?
Quite, he already had it in mind by Jan 2020. And of course he was in holiday (Christmas season) all over Canada, or at least what we know of Toronto, then Vancouver.
Prince Harry 'sells ?50,000 shooting rifles and stops hunting to please Meghan' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-sells-50000-shooting-21981568)
I am American.
Long story and after I explain, while my explanation is part if this subject, my opinion of Henry ,the prince without a country.
People hunt .
I don?t.
I get why they do and that is ok.
If it is not your thing, then don't do it. No one is making you.
Some of us like to eat a hamburger or a fired piece of fish.
Ground beef is from the cow and the fish has a hook in its mouth to be caught or casted in a net.
Dont eat beef roast or fish if that is not your thing. No one is making you.
I totally disagree with the crazy, extreme , radical, just group PETA.
I believe in the ethical treatment if animals meaning lab mice to lab monkeys to should be ethincally fir medical tests. Any time you get sick or go to the doctor or take an over the counter med, it has been animal tested and people tested too.
So Henry bought these, which he should not have bought anyway, because he gave up hunting a few years ago.
His wife does not approve of that. That is ok. Spouses and part of being married is respect, compromise fir the others feelings and or communication about your feelings too.
Henry , the prince without a country, like, lol, where is he going to go hunting in Malibu or Beverly Hills
or Pacific Palasides or Calabasas. Wherever they live. All 4 places are rumored to be.
So he sold this expensive hunting rifles. Ok, fine. He should not have even ordered them really. He could have given them to one of his cousins or father. Henry , the prince , is not living in England or going back there so what is he going to do with them anyway wherever he had stored. I assume in England at somewhere.
If he wants to hunt, there are plenty of people who do it In the USA.
Not many hunt here in California. I am happy he is stopping. Vegan burgers are now pretty good. However, people will eat meat. I am just glad that wildlife has one less hunter on its trail.
Quote from: lk1957 on May 06, 2020, 09:47:26 PM
Not many hunt here in California. I am happy he is stopping. Vegan burgers are now pretty good. However, people will eat meat. I am just glad that wildlife has one less hunter on its trail.
There are restrictions on how one can hunt, so wildlife is not going to be decimated. I don't think that this vegetarian yoga loving blah blah Harry is the real Harry, and I feel he'll revert to his old self at some stage..
The article didn't say he is now a vegetarian, only that he sold his rifles 5 months ago. It later speculates that he has been influenced by Meghan with the anti hunt and shoot.
Quote from: wannable on May 07, 2020, 12:41:19 PM
The article didn't say he is now a vegetarian, only that he sold his rifles 5 months ago. It later speculates that he has been influenced by Meghan with the anti hunt and shoot.
I didn't mean it literarlly.. just that the Harry who has emerged in the past year, seems to me very different to his image/what was known of him before that. So I wonder if at some stage he'll revert to type...
Only if he separates or divorce her, there is a very high possibility that he will revert the majority of his habits to Harry pre marriage. Social behavior studies have this info in numbers, for both male and female. Reverting. For now they rather intake factory meat.
This also is applicable to influencers that have the followers and the power, like in my previous comment on the surface of Archie's bday video, Meghan appearing in shorts influence the American way, whilst the baby in diaper's rather than ''specially'' dressed for an occasion. Like ordinary people photographed for years in the USA going to a supermarket in PJ's, bathrobes and what not barely there clothing. This influence is hitting the UK during the covid19, I saw pictures in the DM of people lining up and in such drab.
Public figures know or don't realize that whatever they do, and will be for posterity, what they said, filmed, and it does influence small or big, it matters. Many celebrities are doing tik tok videos half naked, so many children and young adults of this woke era will probably think cool, let me release myself outdoors same.
Back to the rifles, it is interesting the comment sections; most in different manners of writing their comment - I put it all together as a majority think he will revert to his habits, the minority of the ''other'' type of comment is - and I belong there - basically the preservation of something that was his, this minority also came in different ways of writing the comment; from financially the person who purchased can and certainly will make a lot of money if he decides to sell or his generations to come with a piece of history in his household.
I think he will revert, he does not seem a very "fixed" personality... Since meeting Meghan he seems to have taken on all her ideas, and the move to California is almost certainly largely her idea. But will it last?
Lifetime announces plans to make a Prince Harry and Meghan Markle movie about Megxit | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8308159/Lifetime-announces-plans-make-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-movie-Megxit.html)
No cast been announced and no release date yet after Harry and Meghan quit spotlight UK
Although the article may be placed in the Sussex or Cambridge boards, I believe Mark Dyer was/is Harry's mentor, the Godfather of Archie, closer to Harry because he was younger, noted that Harry needed his guidance, etc.
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Healing the rift between Harry and William: The ex-Guards officer with the toughest peacekeeping mission on the planet... but he IS making progress
Former Welsh Guards officer Mark Dyer has a new role in repairing Prince rift
Relations became so sour 'they didn't talk for weeks' after Harry's 2018 wedding
Prince Harry this year turned his back on Royal life to live in Los Angeles
Mark Dyer became a mentor to Harry and William following their mother's death
Healing the rift between the Princes: The ex-Guards officer with the toughest peacekeeping mission | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8372557/Healing-rift-Princes-ex-Guards-officer-toughest-peacekeeping-mission.html)
I took some quotes and posted in other boards/threads to discuss there rather than here. For example: In the Diana board, her 20th anniversary August 2017. Note: I didn't know that there was a special celebration at Althorp and a situation happened with Harry and Meghan.
A very interesting article. We will never know the entire true story - even their biographers will not be given that kind of "sight". But it sure will be nice to see that they have warmed up to each other, and when there is finally trans-Atlantic visiting we can hope to see some of the old joking when they are together.
Do you.
That should be their attitude with each other now and when H married M.
Truly, there should not have been a riff.
Toxic people, you let go off.
Fo you.
Worry about you.
H is a grown man.
W had a wife and three kids. H is not his child.
I will say W was wrong. If there was scarpgate, he should have always been cheery to them the few formal times in public they were around each over the past two years.
I should say William is fed up, he and K are now the main workers of their generation in the Royal working party, and Harry has quit. I don't blame him.. esp if he feels that his brother is keeping away from him. Harry is not a child, he's a grown man. If he wants to be independent of the RF, leave them fine.. but don't expect them to be too pleased with it..
I believe so, with every little event, Harry and Meghan felt snubbed rather than pause, breath and think (article explains the examples of each situation, reaction of the Sussex's, and the meaning of each can't). The isolated themselves with their actions.
IMO, Meghan wanted to be the first in every situation versus the tradition, protocol of not only the BRF, but the Aristocracy, High Society ways of the British people.
Quote from: wannable on June 02, 2020, 12:25:45 PM
I believe so, with every little event, Harry and Meghan felt snubbed rather than pause, breath and think (article explains the examples of each situation, reaction of the Sussex's, and the meaning of each can't). The isolated themselves with their actions.
IMO, Meghan wanted to be the first in every situation versus the tradition, protocol of not only the BRF, but the Aristocracy, High Society ways of the British people.
That is your opinion. I think otherwise and there is no direct evidence of Harry or Meghan asking for anything at the Diana Memorial Service other than assertions by a journalist in a tabloid article.
She wouldn't have said that nobody asks her if she's Ok.
Quote from: wannable on June 02, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
She wouldn't have said that nobody asks her if she's Ok.
That wasn't in 2017, but over two years later and after the birth of her first child.
So you think the I'm not Okay is a short period of time she felt affected?
or a accumulation of tidbit experiences that Hotspur and Meghan created in their own minds that left them isolated? I believe this one, they wouldn't had registered so many items being just recently married.
My first experience of living in another country for work, early stamp of my CV :teehee:, Mexico, I asked out loud something of the sort 'Why are they like that', massive backlash, massive insult done innocently and most importantly lesson learned. Here or in the other thread I also said, living in a foreign country is not for everyone.
Bottom line, my opinion, Meghan never wanted to do this thing for the long haul. She was never planning on staying .
One year. After that year, FACT , not my opinion, she and H were getting their ducks in a row. About a year and a half, 16 months or, OUT.
January, throw down first.
Now, there is no problem. No ill will. MH and WK are not friends , friendly. They , safe to say dont communicate.
They wont be seeing each other.
Each couple has their own family, friends work, duties, LIFE.
Truly, H and W dont need a mediator or anything.
It is best to let people be , who have differences , move on.
There is no evidence that it was the Spencers who virulently objected to Meghan's presence at the Diana Service. If they had all disliked her so much then Diana's sisters would not have attended Archie's christening.
Meghan had experience in living in a foreign country. She lived in Canada, for seven years while filming Suits. She loved Toronto, didn't have a bad word to say about the country. Ever. Liked its gun laws, and made some good friends there.
However, in Canada the tabloid press did not go after her like sharks in a feeding frenzy. She wasn't attacked by the Press three times a day for over a year, nor did attacks on her begin as soon as she settled in Toronto.
I too have travelled and experienced different cultures. I lived in Malaysia for a while. I've lived in another country (Australia) than that of my birth for over half my life.
I can honestly say however, that I would not have been able to stand what Meghan went through in Britain from journalists and courtiers, some of it while going through pregnancy and new motherhood, all while my husband's grandmother, father, stepmother, and brother stood aside and ignored the distress, in spite of countless appeals by my husband. No, not for a trillion pounds.
It was one of the most shameful episodes of turning their backs on a new family member in BRF modern history, IMO, only Diana's treatment surpassed it. I would have been gone from Britain within three months and told the media why, in a statement backed by evidence.
Some of Meghans attacks were racist ugly stuff.
Some of her critics were not racist , but because of her antics. Harrys too.
Ok, I will say, I will go for it. Queen did right in a hands off attitude with MH. Whatever they wanted, however, they did.
Never has the Q done that.
uckP should have said, Meghan is new to or family and country. We wish there be no negative press on her as settles in her new life and role. Thank you.
Queen goofed. The say nothing attitude, as they have always used, did not work in the chess game, the war with her, Harry, and the media.
Her situation was unique.
Still MH would have left for America. The UK was never the longterm game plan.
Queen has battled them all successfully, but Honey, Meghan is a new battle she never faced.
After the tearful lip biting, Oscar performance of no one ask how am I , doe eyes on the verge of a tear drop...Queen should hav had a nice 20 minute tea with PCharles and Harry, Meghan. Queen should have bowed and bent down to get her azz kicked and her slapped face by Harry then instead of later. Least it would have been in private. Queen should have gladly eaten their shyt, and put out a simple supportive statement on MH . One sentence.
Changes happen. Queen failed to adapt. She never met a foe like Meghan.
Queen won the battle.
Meghan won the war.
Yes , Q and family now looks racist. Harry said he is nothing like them for he is so woke. Lol.Greta scam phone call.
Still, MH have their freedom . Their life. William and Harry are not close. MarkDyer or anyone else should not try to mediate between them. William is a fool for trying to mend because they are in different countries. Harry will win this .
William needs to go take care of his wife and kids. Harry is not a child and not his child.
Williams time was to say during, midway, ?We are so glad Meghan is in Harrys life and part of our family. She is a wonderful addition to our family and country.?
All Queen and the rest can do is shut up, back off, no communication, and let be.
At least , now as plans succeed or fail, the Q and the rest cannot be blamed for it.
Quote from: Curryong on June 02, 2020, 10:18:21 PM
There is no evidence that it was the Spencers who virulently objected to Meghan's presence at the Diana Service. If they had all disliked her so much then Diana's sisters would not have attended Archie's christening.
Meghan had experience in living in a foreign country. She lived in Canada, for seven years while filming Suits. She loved Toronto, didn't have a bad word to say about the country. Ever. Liked its gun laws, and made some good friends there.
However, in Canada the tabloid press did not go after her like sharks in a feeding frenzy. She wasn't attacked by the Press three times a day for over a year, nor did attacks on her begin as soon as she settled in Toronto.
I too have travelled and experienced different cultures. I lived in Malaysia for a while. I've lived in another country (Australia) than that of my birth for over half my life.
I can honestly say however, that I would not have been able to stand what Meghan went through in Britain from journalists and courtiers, some of it while going through pregnancy and new motherhood, all while my husband's grandmother, father, stepmother, and brother stood aside and ignored the distress, in spite of countless appeals by my husband. No, not for a trillion pounds.
It was one of the most shameful episodes of turning their backs on a new family member in BRF modern history, IMO, only Diana's treatment surpassed it. I would have been gone from Britain within three months and told the media why, in a statement backed by evidence.
What was so bad about diana's treatmetn that it was "even wrorse than Meghan's?"??
Diana was loved by the press and public until the last few years, even then she was never AFAICR subjected to really harsh abuse. If you mean the RF, they started out liking her and were firneldy to her, and withdrew from her, when she began to talk to the Press, but you'd kind of expect that...
They both used outside people rather than the firm. Once you go down that route, you get fired/ousted/lose favor/and the sort.
It always happens in any firm/company/organization, when someone goes rogue, that person eventually is not retained.
Once Harry and Meghan early into their marriage stepped KP, the red flags went running to all 3 households.
My first job experience, my boss (he was Vice President, 2nd in command) stepped the advise of the Co., next day he was never to be seen.
Quote from: QueenAlex on June 03, 2020, 09:54:24 AM
What was so bad about diana's treatmetn that it was "even wrorse than Meghan's?"??
Diana was loved by the press and public until the last few years, even then she was never AFAICR subjected to really harsh abuse. If you mean the RF, they started out liking her and were firneldy to her, and withdrew from her, when she began to talk to the Press, but you'd kind of expect that...
I'm not talking about the British public or really the Press, though columnists in the tabloids went after her particularly in the last couple of years of her life. I'm talking about the period when the marriage started to go sour, and courtiers and senior members of the RF could see it. What help and/or advice did Diana in particular, (who wasn't born into the BRF) get to get through the mess? What advice about Camilla did Charles (who WAS born within the system) ever get regarding his reuniting with a married woman as his mistress?
Diana went to the Queen about Camilla and the Queen did her usual ostriching and just threw up her hands and said 'Oh Charles! HE's hopeless!'. Very helpful!
What is the point of detaching yourself from your son and daughter in law's problems in such a fashion? And unlike running off with the dogs at Balmoral when Margaret wanted to talk to the Queen about the Townsend problem, this mattered constitutionally. A marriage breakdown of the direct heir proved in fact to be a terrible blow both in personal terms and to the prestige of the BRF.
It's one thing to not interfere in the marital problems of the family (and even Victoria didn't do that) and quite another to ignore and detatch in such a way that a person becomes not only troubled but isolated within the system. And Prince Philip only started 'marriage counselling' with Diana (but apparently not with Charles) when the marriage was irreparable.
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Quote from: wannable on June 03, 2020, 01:47:21 PM
They both used outside people rather than the firm. Once you go down that route, you get fired/ousted/lose favor/and the sort.
It always happens in any firm/company/organization, when someone goes rogue, that person eventually is not retained.
Once Harry and Meghan early into their marriage stepped KP, the red flags went running to all 3 households.
My first job experience, my boss (he was Vice President, 2nd in command) stepped the advise of the Co., next day he was never to be seen.
This equation between US/international business firms and the BRF that you persist with just doesn't hold up. I believe you place far too much emphasis on one sole remark made by King George VI about the BRF being 'the Firm'. I believe he would have been horrified by the idea of his family operating like a business.
Business firms/organisations are solely for profit and financial advantage for the firm (and its shareholders.) Yes, prestige and brand protection comes into it somewhat, but the prime aim is financial gain and profit.
That is very different from the BRF, whose senior figures do generate money for charity but not for themselves. Their main source of income comes from centuries old Duchies and from arrangements made with the govt over centuries (as per Crown land etc.)
The BRF is an extended family stretching over several generations and headed by a grandmother and greatgrandmother. There have been times when the monarch as HOS and the woman who is a mother and a grandmother have clashed and a compromise has been thrashed out. That is very very different from a business organisation (except perhaps for Ma and Pa stores.) What business organisation can you point to where every single executive (senior Royal) is a relative of the head of the firm and in large numbers?
What's more, the BRF don't operate like a business firm. Senior courtiers advise and often supervise Royal decisions on practically everything, even the Queen's, in a way that PA's of executives and heads of firms would not dare to do.
And the different courts often operate like personal fiefdoms and have done for many years. Sometimes they cooperate with each other sometimes not, and leaks go out to the Press. Clarence House and BP have clashed several times, and senior courtiers are bested. Sometimes it's personal. Short of boardroom takeovers that does not happen in private business.
In short there are huge differences between the way businesses operate and how the BRF does things, far more than there are similarities.
Incidentally, Harry was not asked to leave the RF. Things were thrashed out at Sandringham and he chose to leave for himself and his family. That is not like a resignation or sacking in business where there is little or no contact between the principals ever again.
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. I would expect nothing less.
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Enjoy.
Why is it necessary to start another thread about a short speech Meghan made on Zoom to pupils at at her old alma mater's Commencement ceremony? She addressed the current situation in a restrained fashion and then addressed the pupils about the future. She has a perfect right to speak, by invitation, there. She was after all School President when she attended the school.
Anyway, yes I have heard it thanks, and it has been praised even by the Press (and elsewhere) as a good and 'heartfelt' speech. It's on Aussie news sources as well.
By the way, the expression is 'HEAR Ye, HEAR Ye'.
I think it's a great speech for the people of the future, they are as she said 17, 18. Rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. Honestly it does merit a thread.
Thank you for sharing this
@FanDianaFancy. No doubt the events that Meghan witnessed as a tween left an indelible mark on her memory. Good to see hear using her excellent public speaking skills as she addressed the graduating Class of 2020 from Immaculate Heart High School. Traditionally the school holds its graduation ceremonies at the Hollywood Bowl and the graduates wear white dresses but with the current restrictions on large gatherings, they're holding a video ceremony. Meghan chose to wear white likely as a nod to the school's tradition.
Than you @Curry, Hear ye,Hear ye.
Thank you. Thst is what I get trying to post up first new info. Opps. and early morning or late night here when I did so.
Please mods, correct that. Ouch.
Yes though a new topic because it is current. If her school invited her, yes ,or she wanted to go post at her school, fine. . She has every right to do this and say what she likes to whoever , wherever , to Whenever she likes.
This is s free country.
She is a famous, private citizen.
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@FanDianaFancy I actually thought your Here ye Here came related to the famous song/lyrics of Pharrell Williams, T.I.P. which is purposely written as such, the song refers to POC, especially the black from the Commonwealth, and is appropriate for this BLM. Look it up, he sings about black people ''here'' (and now, makes reference about black soldiers too in the military). Edit to Add: If you think it was a mistake, please reconsider NOT changing the title.
I like it, when an ex alumni from their alma matter school and university get invited to any celebration, it's very cool. i.e. Wiliam and Kate have done this twice with their University. St. Andrews Kate in red inaugurating a new field and section, whilst receiving her original grad dissertation and in NYC for a fundraising carried out by the university at the MET.
Here is a photo from the IMHS' graduation in 2019.
Immaculate Heart celebrates class of 2019 - Park Labrea News/ Beverly PressPark Labrea News/ Beverly Press (https://beverlypress.com/2019/06/immaculate-heart-celebrates-class-of-2019/)
I believe there might be an old still photo of Meghan at her own IMHS graduation ceremony floating around online.
IMO her speech to the class does warrant its own thread as she is an alumna of the institution and considering the current circumstances they obviously impacted what she planned to address in her speech. Meghan was able to share her own memories as a middle school student and since she's currently residing in Beverly Hills/Los Angeles Co. is living with the challenges that the graduates and their families are facing: COVID 19 and the civil unrest related to the death of Mr. Floyd.
I don't know why her alma mater Immaculate Heart, High School & Middle School hasn't published her speech.
Immaculate Heart twitter account
Immaculate Heart (@IHPandas) on Twitter (https://twitter.com/IHPandas)
Immaculate Heart website
Immaculate Heart | A Private Catholic Day School for Girls, Los Angeles CA | Immaculate Heart High School & Middle School (https://www.immaculateheart.org/)
How strange
Meghan Markle's relationship with Royal Family showed 'warning' signs just four days after wedding | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8416983/Meghan-Markles-relationship-Royal-Family-showed-warning-signs-just-four-days-wedding.html)
Four days after wedding
I don't like Meghan and I don't like Lady CC. I think she goes by info that's given to her for whatever purpose. I can never warm up to her though after what she wrote about Diana.
I think it , whatever it is , is funny. I think everything about Suessex team is just funny.
They are happy with their lives and their choices. We all should be do lucky.
Quote from: oak_and_cedar on June 14, 2020, 09:28:36 PM
I don't like Meghan and I don't like Lady CC. I think she goes by info that's given to her for whatever purpose. I can never warm up to her though after what she wrote about Diana.
Of course she "goes by information given to her", all writers do. How else would they find out things? However she also seems to make up some things that are pretty bizarre and incredible, to say the least.. such as that the queen mother was born to a surrogate, the Bowes Lyons' cook. So its hard to take her too seriously as a writer.
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Quote from: FanDianaFancy on June 14, 2020, 11:16:20 PM
I think it , whatever it is , is funny. I think everything about Suessex team is just funny.
They are happy with their lives and their choices. We all should be do lucky.
What is "funny" about them? Either they are a couple who felt they had to leave the UK because they were so unhappy here, which isn't funny...or they are a couple who chose to drop out of their duty life some time ago and who let the RF down. That's not funny.
I don't know if they are happy with tehir choices.. They should be at present but then again I think they may be finding that life in Canada and life in LA has its problems and that being free to make their own life choices and work isn't going to work out that well...
Reactions from the IHHS Class of 2020 for their three guest speakers. Please click on the article to read the graduates' responses. :happy:
Three High-Profile Speakers Surprise Immaculate Heart Grads | Los Feliz Ledger (https://www.losfelizledger.com/three-high-profile-speakers-surprise-immaculate-heart-grads/)
QuoteLOS FELIZ?After the COVID-19 pandemic threw a wrench into Immaculate Heart High School?s more than 60-year tradition of hosting their commencement ceremony at the Hollywood Bowl, school officials quickly arranged for a trio of surprise speakers to honor this year?s graduates?including a United States Congressman and two famous alumni.
QuoteStudents and parents who tuned into that virtual ceremony?which was promptly removed from the internet following its airing?were treated to surprise messages from Congressman Adam Schiff, Tyra Banks, who graduated Immaculate Heart in 1991, and the Duchess of Sussex, Meghan Markle, who graduated Immaculate Heart in 1999.
Thank you, TLLK. I wondered after I posted whether I had put it in the right thread. Obviously I didn't! :P
Being bi-racial gives her a very creditable point of view, and it is obvious she spoke from the heart and true experience. Perhaps she was even able to convince some people that racism is more prevalent than they knew. I give her a lot of credit.
I can't find the other thread on Lady Colin Campbell. I've searched under every term possible here, including just her name.
Lady C says that she 'knew that Meghan was trouble from the start'. Yeah, that sounds really fair and balanced, lol! What was that she said just recently about her rooting for Meghan to do well when she joined the RF? Contradicting yourself there, Lady Colin.
Nor does the Sunday times reviewer think this will be a balanced or impartial book, describing it as a mixture of bizarre anecdotes, gossip and innuendo.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lady-colin-campbell-i-knew-meghan-was-trouble-from-the-start-pbnkq03kv
Both books will incline in favor (Finding Freedom, in 7th hardcover and 9th kindle Amazon's Best Seller) and unfavorable (Meghan and Harry by Lady C, 1st kindle surpassed the 1Million and 2nd hardcover Amazon's Best Seller followed by Lady in Waiting 3rd, 4th and 6th paperback, kindle and hardcover, Anne Glennconner)
After the Times shot at her book, Lady C clashes horns with host Philip Schofield on British morning TV.
Lady Colin Campbell brands Phillip Schofield 'ignorant' as he criticises her Meghan and Harry book | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8450805/Lady-Colin-Campbell-brands-Phillip-Schofield-ignorant-criticises-Meghan-Harry-book.html)
Lady C wouldn't know truth if it jumped up and bit her on the nose! These British journalists and TV hosts know her of old. They know what her record is on biographies of royals and others. She's always been known as a purveyor of gossip and innuendo and this new book is the same. I don't know any serious book reviewer who would call her bios credible, so looking forward to reviews in the broadsheets, if there are any!
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Quote from: wannable on June 21, 2020, 02:30:18 PM
Both books will incline in favor (Finding Freedom, in 7th hardcover and 9th kindle Amazon's Best Seller) and unfavorable (Meghan and Harry by Lady C, 1st kindle surpassed the 1Million and 2nd hardcover Amazon's Best Seller followed by Lady in Waiting 3rd, 4th and 6th paperback, kindle and hardcover, Anne Glennconner)
So the criteria is, don't bother about any credibility as an author, don't worry about whether the truth is printed or not in a supposed serious biography, don't worry about the reputation of people slammed in Lady C's books, just so long as she is Number One on Amazon and will be tearing the Sussexes to shreds everything is OK is it?
You do know what Lady C's reputation is as a biographer in the UK? That she is best known in Britain for stints on 'Celebrity Come Dancing' and 'I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here!'? About the withdrawals and altering of previous books due to libel threats, that her ex husband, Lord Colin, was so ashamed about the rubbish she wrote about Charles and Diana's marriage that he personally wrote to Prince Charles to apologise?
She calls others vulgar and liars and liars but her own background and her own antics don't stand up to the slightest scrutiny. And she is not close to any members of the Royal Family or true aristocrats. The last she really knew were the Argyll family.
The mother in law Margaret, Duchess of Argyll, whose name Lady C loved to drop, was divorced by her husband during one of the most sordid divorce scandals in my lifetime. A woman who did what she did and had it photographed in a bathroom is someone Lady C enjoyed talking about in her early years as an author! That's the standard Lady C is on, all right!
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The woman who Lady C name-dropped so much, her step-mother in law. An admirable woman in every way, as can be seen here!
Duchess of Argyll was pregnant at 15, had 88 lovers during marriage and took infamous porn picture (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3821698/duchess-of-argyll-scottish-pregnant-lovers-porn-picture-divorce/)
He took a risk, lost, she's an expert, calm composed said It's not a hagiography, I'm not a minister of propaganda, it's the truth by interviewing people at sussex events. Gave examples, he had no retaliation or the pizzazz like piers who'd had insisted, if it were his show....
Shofield's risk pushed her to no. 1 and 2, whilst the other books went further back. He gave her the opportunity to gaslight the other books as hag and propaganda.
Schofield called Lady C 'patronising' at the end, when he bade her goodbye. And she was and is. And, like I said, she would not what truth was if it bit her on the nose!
Colin Campbell is by no means an aristocrat nor is she in real royal circles. A marriage by sheer luck that lasted a week turned into a title that has been milked for years. The books are all based on nothing but gossip not interviews. The Argylls direct link with the royal family was Princess Louise Daughter of Queen Victoria and the families ties died with her over 80 years ago As Louise had no children.
Well, I've got my paws on Lady C's book today. Friends I'm staying with lent me their Kindle, and the book is on there, bought as a joke by them. I've read it.
My verdict on this serving of twaddle? What you might expect from Lady Colin judging by her past writings. A scattering of unnamed sources, 'a Prince', 'a cousin of the royals', 'a courtier' etc, all unnamed, along with what appears to be an all encompassing trawl of tabloid articles, social media outlets including Tumblr, plus the opinion of the author, almost invariably unflattering to both Meghan and Harry.
A sample. She states that Harry in asking formal permission to marry, told his grandmother the Queen that he intended to marry Meghan 'And if you don't like it you'll just have to suck it up'. Yes, that sounds exactly like how Harry would speak to the grandmother he reveres and respects!
Lady C further asserts that 'a Prince' was present at this meeting and told her that Harry told his grandparents that 'they would be accused of racism if they did not agree to the marriage!'
Apparently that threat worked !! as a few pages later Lady C states that 'the Queen and Prince Charles were particularly delighted with her virtues, not the least of which was her colour'. Source, same unnamed Prince. (It is one of Lady C's claims, long asserted on social media sites, that the BRF 'wished to appear diverse' and that is mainly why the Sussex marriage was allowed.)
Tons more, on the same lines as above.
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There have been assertions on social media for two years that Harry and Meghan were ordered out of Charles's garden party after 15 minutes by Charles and Camilla, a few days after their wedding.
Lady Colin's take on it is, supposedly garnished from a Household official who told her at a dinner, that 'after 15 minutes of mingling and greeting, Meghan turned to Harry and said 'Harry, this is boring. Let's leave.' He said 'No, we have to stay'. Meghan then repeated (according to this unnamed official) 'We've done our bit, everyone knows we've been here. Let's go!' Harry again reiterated that they were to stay, and they moved on among the guests.'
I do not believe this story, mainly because newly wed Meghan was anxious to keep a good relationship with Charles and this would have appeared as a terrible and rude snub.
I'm planning to read all of the books, including Andrew's.
Lady C today is No. 1 in UK, USA, Canada and Australia.
I plan to read these books as well, keeping in mind as I read that nothing in life is black and white, and much of what is written is subjective and shaded by authors' opinions.
PS: Since she is American, I doubt Meghan would have said "we've done our bit". That is a British expression, or at least, it is not used in New England. We might say "We've done our share", or "we've done all we were supposed to do". Just sayin'.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on June 25, 2020, 08:34:22 PM
I plan to read these books as well, keeping in mind as I read that nothing in life is black and white, and much of what is written is subjective and shaded by authors' opinions.
PS: Since she is American, I doubt Meghan would have said "we've done our bit". That is a British expression, or at least, it is not used in New England. We might say "We've done our share", or "we've done all we were supposed to do". Just sayin'.
Yes, many though not all biographies are influenced by authors' opinions. However, most reputable biographers try their hardest to check facts that they intend to publish and not get stuff direct from sites set up on the Internet to attack their subjects. I have never for instance read a bio of a current show business personality and thought to myself 'I read this on so and so's Twitter or Tumblr page', whereas I did so lots of times with Lady C's book.
She is also wholeheartedly partisan in her defence of Tom Markle senior, (she quotes a grandson and daughter in law of his that she invited to her house to stay who have been estranged from him for years and 'quotes' their praise of him) and of Charles in his marriage to Diana. Indeed she has hardly a good word to say about Diana as a wife and mother.
What is more, it is extremely unusual for an author to so completely dislike their subject (short of the subjects being cut-throat businessmen or criminals) as this author blatantly does with Meghan. What is more, it is very very rare for someone to write a bio on a person they have gone on TV interviews and consistently criticised for up to two years before.
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Quote from: wannable on June 25, 2020, 03:38:24 PM
I'm planning to read all of the books, including Andrew's.
Lady C today is No. 1 in UK, USA, Canada and Australia.
Gossip sells. You can write a dozen best sellers (which Lady C hasn't) and still not be a well regarded author. And that is especially true in the non-fiction sphere, where to a certain point you live and die on verifiable and sourced FACTS appearing in your biographies.
Making money isn't the be all and end all of existence, even when writing books, or at least it shouldn't be to anyone with any integrity. IMO that leaves Lady C well out of the frame.
I read her Diana biography. It was very one sided. It's too bad that the Spencer family didn't/couldn't sue on behalf of Diana. IMO
I'm going to try to read her book in a couple of months and see what it's about.
Angela Levin, certainly no fan of Meghan btw, was at Prince Charles's garden party. She says here on this Twitter that she was there, Harry was asked to give a short speech, that they did not want to take attention away from Charles and that's why they only stayed for a short while. They were NOT told to leave.
She's a biographer and journalist.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/angelalevin1/status/1276174493447307264?s=21)
And, btw, the young man who interviews Lady Colin on her so unbiased videos spruiking her book is no more a Prince than I am.
He calls himself Prince Leon of Breithen Thurn. However someone on TRF did a check on his title and it died out in the male line in the 19th century. There is no trace of him in the Almanach de Gotha (the bible of nobility) no on genealogy bases online.
So the co-spruiker of this terrible book is as false an aristo as Lady Colin herself is. Very apt!
Meghan gave a fun little message of support on the America's Got Talent finale for a contestant named Archie.
Meghan Markle Surprise Appearance on AGT Finale | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-makes-surprise-appearance-on-agt-finale/)
Good for her! She looked like she was really enjoying it - completely natural. Hope Archie's life keeps improving!
Prince Harry heartbreak: Duke's godmother Lady Celia Vestey dies 'suddenly' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1366800/prince-harry-godmother-Lady-Celia-Vestey-dies-royal-family-latest-news)
QuoteLady Celia, wife of Lord Samuel Vestey, was one of the six godparents chosen by Prince Charles and Princess Diana for Prince Harry in 1984
Harry would undoubtedly have attended the funeral in a non Covid year, even when living in California. However, with the restrictions on numbers for funerals in the present circumstances, perhaps just a wreath, or Charles, whose friend she was, may do the honours for self and son. Lady Celia had a large family, I believe.
@Curryong-Yes I do believe that he'd have been there or requested someone to represent him if this was not in the midst of a pandemic. From my reading over the years, the Wales brothers have made efforts to be present at funerals for those who played a significant role in their lives especially their nannies.
REBECCA ENGLISH reveals Queen took 'two seconds' to freeze out Harry from cenotaph ceremony | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9105239/REBECCA-ENGLISH-reveals-Queen-took-two-seconds-freeze-Harry-cenotaph-ceremony.html)
Queen 'decided within two seconds to ban Prince Harry from laying Cenotaph wreath' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-decided-within-two-seconds-23250284)
It takes 2 seconds, 1 1000 2 2000 to say No. This is news. :xmas1:
:teehee:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev0-paLXcAAndKR?format=jpg&name=medium
I have just noticed that the Queen's latest 2 statements; previous to the last (removal of honour titles and patronages) was directed to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Today's statement is Harry, Meghan and Archie.
I think she knows these 2 will never stop talking or trashing the BRF.
I do not believe that Harry and Meghan will say anything more in public about their lives as working royals or relationship with any member of the royal family. The Oprah interview was it IMO.
By the way, so glad to hear that Piers Morgan has quit his TV programme GMB. His ITV bosses wanted him to apologise after the remarks he made about not believing that Meghan had had suicidal thoughts. There were 40,000 complaints from viewers. I watched a clip of him raving on about it, interrupting others etc.
This is the BEST NEWS I?ve had about a public figure in a long time.
Piers Morgan quits GMB latest - Live updates as Meghan Markle racism row sees host sensationally exit ITV show (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14287635/piers-morgan-quits-gmb-meghan-markle-alex-beresford-latest/)
Part 1 , their autobiography. Part 2, OprahInterview.
Part 3 mental health crusaders and anti racism talking heads.
I am not sure if Oprah closed her magazine, but if not, then I see Megan writing for Oprah or other media.
The Netflix show , their first , might be about mental health. Big , in fashion, hot button issue.
No.
The USA CNN and talking head daytime tv shows ate all pro Megan. Sharon Osborne has The Talk, daytime tv show.
Megan n harrie too, have received a good 2-3 months mileage out of this . If they add to it, fine. If not, the media is on it here and in TUK for months to come.
Piers obsession with hating Meghan detailed below. Hundreds of his rants shown.
Piers Morgan quits: Good Morning Britain?s obsession with Meghan Markle revealed (https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/piers-morgans-obsession-with-hating-meghan-markle-revealed-in-a-photo/news-story/45c53a177a5dc6a24faec110cde0cc0a)
Yes. Piers needed to hold back a long time ago like , January 1, 2021.
He should not have responded on this OprahInterview at all.
He could have been snarky and said on sir, isn?t nice. Isn?t that great. Super. He should have been writing and speaking.
Why can he not and others do ?
The times we are in.
Megan is riding popular support in most of the media. If media does not agree, they have been less vocal.
No one wants to be accused of racism. To not agree with Megan , you are a RACIST AND NEED YOBE CANCELED.
The climate we are in now. People in media are actually calling BFR racist.
Oh what about Harry wearing a Nazi costume, his racial slurs?
That is NOT the narrative that fits.
^ HMQEII ''Some recollections may vary''
Unauthorized caricature, after BBC received note from Harry and Meghan referencing 'we don't want old white men' to comment about us.
Harry initiating race conversation with family members, BP family Christmas lunch Dec 2017...finally we will have biracial non pasty white children with freckles and red hair. Queue in the members who commented. You heard it here first.
A little satire based on the Oprah interview. This time the Queen of Daytime TV sits down with Queen Elizabeth I. Yes QEI. :lol:
CRAIG BROWN: Great Oprah Interviews From History - Queen Elizabeth I | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9349151/CRAIG-BROWN-Great-Oprah-Interviews-History-Queen-Elizabeth-I.html)
I've seen several, technology wonders. :notworthy:
Disclaimer: In the Sussex's board, 'Apology' thread, which clearly is a satire/parody initiated with a media link listing the material things the UK gave the couple, my comment of unathorized is a Direct Private Message with a ''political'' caricature emailed to me with a spam address, the author, which is very highend caricature, signed it xxxBanskyUknow, meaning Bansky is unknown with name/last name. So please take it as you will. Usually satires may mean according to Oxford dictionary is a use to expose and discredit vice or folly. This last sentence added as conclusion. Ends.
Quote from: TLLK on March 11, 2021, 03:13:17 PM
A little satire based on the Oprah interview. This time the Queen of Daytime TV sits down with Queen Elizabeth I. Yes QEI. :lol:
CRAIG BROWN: Great Oprah Interviews From History - Queen Elizabeth I | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9349151/CRAIG-BROWN-Great-Oprah-Interviews-History-Queen-Elizabeth-I.html)
LOL! The biggest laugh I've had in a long time! Thanks so much for sharing!
Prince Harry agreed to MARRY ME, claims furious woman duped by conman? who now wants royal arrested (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14637474/indian-woman-punjab-court-prince-harry-wedding/)
Indian lawyer demands Prince Harry is arrested for 'breaking promise of marriage' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9466269/Indian-lawyer-demands-Prince-Harry-arrested-breaking-promise-marriage.html)
Woman catfished by fake Prince Harry tries to sue royal for 'promising to marry her' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/woman-catfished-fake-prince-harry-23909708)
Oh dear. I've seen actual posts from people on royal discussion forums claiming that a member of a royal family promised to marry them, but I have to say that this is a first. I hope that she receives the mental health care that she needs.
Yes I remember a regular on a certain gossipy royal forum who was insistent that she was an accepted fianc?e within the BRF, as well as other bizarre claims about individual members over the years. I think the judge in this case was a compassionate soul. However, it is amazing that obviously spoof and fake royal websites gain so many followers.
The fact the man who proposed to her was Prince Harry MIDDLETON should have given the woman pause :blink:
I'd be more embarassed then anything to take this to court. It can't look good to the public that a Lawyer was duped like this, or tries to take it to court. I would think it would hurt her practice.
Yes I have seen plenty of people claim royals are in love with them. But to try and take one to court to force them to marry her? Thats a new one. Not to mention Harry was already married. She wants him arrested and forced to enter a bigamous marriage?
^^^"Son of Prince Charles Middleton???" I agree
@TudorQueen that the attorney who filed this claim is also going to be hurt by the fallout.
Fortunately the court rejected the application but tried to reason with her.
QuoteThe court rejected the application saying it was not proven that she had been speaking to Prince Harry, but they also tried to be sympathetic to the woman, pointing out that many fake profiles exist on social media which cannot be relied on as proof that conversations with real people had taken place.
The practice of creating fake profiles in order to deceive victims often by offering romantic promises is known as catfishing.
Quote from: TudorQueen on April 14, 2021, 05:47:13 AM
The fact the man who proposed to her was Prince Harry MIDDLETON should have given the woman pause :blink:
I'd be more embarassed then anything to take this to court. It can't look good to the public that a Lawyer was duped like this, or tries to take it to court. I would think it would hurt her practice.
Yes I have seen plenty of people claim royals are in love with them. But to try and take one to court to force them to marry her? Thats a new one. Not to mention Harry was already married. She wants him arrested and forced to enter a bigamous marriage?
Im agreed with you,
@TudorQueen
US Magazine on its cover had a picture of The Duchess of Sussex with the caption: America's First Princess.
How can Meghan be the first Princess from the United States? What about Grace Kelly?
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Quote from: LouisFerdinand on June 17, 2021, 11:06:01 PM
US Magazine on its cover had a picture of The Duchess of Sussex with the caption: America's First Princess.
How can Meghan be the first Princess from the United States? What about Grace Kelly?
:Jen: :Jen: :Jen: :Jen: :Jen: :Jen: :Jen: :Jen: :Jen:
Actually neither of the above was America?s first Princess. It was this lady. She attended King William IV?s Coronation.
Catherine Willis Gray - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Willis_Gray)
Queen Noor, Lee Radziwill, Rita Hayworth, the Miller sisters, Princess Sarah Zeid.
The big difference seems to be that most of the royal women lived abroad during their marriage. Add the Hereditary Princess of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the list.
A few have/did live in the US during their marriage but their husbands were members of defunct houses and were in exile themselves. Like Marie Chantal and her sister Alexandra's husbands
The only other American married into a still reigning monarchy I can think of who lived in the US is Princess Sarah Zeid of Jordan. Her and her husband live in the US.
Sarah and her husband may be too far away from any throne to have made the radar screen of US magazine.
Yes, but the title of this thread is ?America?s first Princess?. That is, Americans who became Princesses by marrying Princes, Ruling and otherwise.
Therefore surely whether these men were in exile or came from defunct Houses or whether the couples lived in the US is beside the point, IMO. It appears to be the FIRST American woman who married a Prince that is wanted, and I think that would be Catherine Gray, though there may well be some earlier Princess than her, who knows.
Quote from: Curryong on June 17, 2021, 11:12:30 PM
Actually neither of the above was America?s first Princess. It was this lady. She attended King William IV?s Coronation.
Catherine Willis Gray - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Willis_Gray)
@Curryong, Catherine Murat was an interesting lady to learn about. I knew one of Napoleon I's sisters had married a Murat. However, I had not memorized the Murat descendants.
well I dont know if you'd count a Murat as royal.. but there is Queen Noor of Jordan who is American and married to a reigning King, as far as I know. ANd of course Grace Kelly who married a reigning prince and lived in Europe all her married life.
Thank you all for the very interesting facts! I think this goes to show how little research the media do on the stories they put out there in "prime time" viewing.
Instead of having received the title of Duchess of Sussex, picture Meghan as Duchess of Connaught.
Meghan's potential title of the Duchess of Connaught has been met with fury - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCKN1k_wUqc)
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on July 25, 2021, 11:01:32 PM
Instead of having received the title of Duchess of Sussex, picture Meghan as Duchess of Connaught.
Meghan's potential title of the Duchess of Connaught has been met with fury - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCKN1k_wUqc)
When did the Queen or BP ever state that Harry was going to be Duke of Connaught? It was only ignorant parts of SM who suggested this. I?d say the vast majority of British people knew/know that Connaught is in the Republic of Ireland and has therefore been out as a royal title for generations.
Even if the grey men fell down on the job in advising, the queen has been in her job too long for such a thought to cross her mind. It's not like she would suddenly forget what parts of Ireland she was the queen of.
Despite not being able to play a political role being a royal is still very political. You have to know how to play the game of public opinion.
The media just likes to stir up drama whenever possible. And they sadly know there are those who will blindly follow.
This is a thread for random, general chat that doesn't fit in else where and really doesn't need to be a new thread. If you are unsure, just send a mod a note. If you do start a thread and it should be in this one, it really isn't a big deal to move it over. So don't be afraid to post.
Her 40th birthday milestone is this coming 4th August
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Inside Meghan Markle's low-key 40th birthday organised by Oprah's party planner
Prince Harry's wife, the Duchess of Sussex Meghan Markle, wants Oprah Winfrey's famed party planned Colin Cowie to organise celebrations for the big day - but it won't be as showy as her famed baby shower in 2019
A source said: ?Megan wants a small gathering. About 65 people are invited, her closest friends and family. Colin was recommended to her by Oprah who always puts on fabulous parties.?
Inside Meghan Markle's low-key 40th birthday organised by Oprah's party planner - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/inside-meghan-markles-low-key-24660996)
QuoteA source said: ?Megan wants a small gathering. About 65 people are invited, her closest friends and family. Colin was recommended to her by Oprah who always puts on fabulous parties.
Wear a mask. 😷 65? Well. Okay! Scarlett. A breeding ground for delta variant. :orchid:
QuoteFabulous parties
What is this 1920? ?. Wait! Never mind. :orchid: Making epidemiologists job more difficult by being stupid. :orchid:
Who said any birthday party, low key or otherwise, is going to take place? A London tabloid? Enough said! Considering all the other birthday parties of Harry?s that were reportedly arranged and described in great detail, including themed ones over the years, not one of which occurred, I think we can really trust a British tabloid with the truth about this one.
I?ll wait until Thursday and see whether anything comes out that is Santa Barbara based about Meghan?s 40th birthday, thanks.
I'm sure that many of these facts about the Sussexes are known to our members and guests, but you might find a new item of trivia in this article.
41 Facts About Meghan Markle and Prince Harry You Probably Didn't Know (https://www.newsweek.com/facts-meghan-markle-prince-harry-you-probably-didnt-know-1592338)
This was one bit of trivia that I didn't know about Meghan.
Quote41. Meghan Knows How to Fire a Gun
The duchess did a one-day firearms training session in British Columbia, Canada, in 2009 as part of her preparation for a role, The Sun reported.
The newspaper printed a picture of Meghan holding a handgun and pointed out that after it was taken she went on to star as FBI agent Amy Jessup in Fringe and Leah Montoya in CSI: Miami.
The Mirror is being creative, the real story is Barak Obama birthday (USA Media), same 4th August as Meghan, his camp has confirmed that this coming weekend there will be a bash for 500 people at Martha's Vineyard Mansion. Harry and Meghan are rumoured to be invited, she as a guest of honour because they share same date.
The media storm in the USA is because Obama and Biden and both teams had blasted Trump when he had his bday with about the same amount of people, 470, same area location. :happy15:
Page Six
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There are no plans for a big party for the Duchess of Sussex, who only recently gave birth to her daughter Lilibet, we?re told.
Markle turns 40 on the same day former President Obama celebrates his 60th birthday, which will be followed by a huge bash at his Martha?s Vineyard home over the weekend. The Sussexes are not planning to attend Obama?s party.
While it was rumored that Markle is having a grand bash with Oprah Winfrey?s A-list party planner Colin Cowie at the helm, this is absolutely not happening.
Both Harry and Markle are still on parental leave following the arrival of their daughter, nicknamed Lili, in June. Things will be quiet with their newborn and their 2-year-old son Archie ? especially amid the worsening Covid-19 situation in their new home state of California, we?re told.
Meghan Markle planning 'low-key' 40th birthday with Harry, children (https://pagesix.com/2021/08/02/meghan-markle-planning-low-key-40th-birthday-with-harry-children/)
Quote from: wannable on August 03, 2021, 02:03:37 PM
Page Six
How on earth do these stories get published without some sort of oversight???!!!
Page Six breaks a lot of stories including Harry's book deal.
Well that was a bit surprising. While channel surfing my husband found a rerun of "Deal or No Deal" and I saw Meghan Markle in a bright green dress opening her case!
I guess that decades? old re-runs are as much a feature of US TV as they are here. I sometimes watch a show called Tipping Point and the longtime 40 year old host occasionally goes back to being 27! Meghan was only in her mid twenties then and apparently loathed the job on Deal or no Deal. But a gig?s a gig I suppose in that business.
Those streaming services have so many old programs, ncluding game shows. She was on the show in 2006 so that was 15 years ago now. I turned it off just before the Christmas 🎄 special.
I guess that the new TV movie about the Sussexes, Escaping The Palace, (which I doubt I?ll bother to watch) will probably be bobbing up on TV in another ten years or so. As far as old shows go, occasionally you get a pearl. I do sometimes watch old series made from works by Dickens or Austen etc, or about the US Civil War as well as a few b+w films when I?m in the mood. Many royal documentaries can be found on YouTube anyway.
The trailer is off-putting.
Will Meghan and Harry Take Snoop Dogg Up on His Thanksgiving Invitation? | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/10/meghan-and-harry-snoop-dogg-thanksgiving-invitation)
QuoteIn 2010, Prince Harry was in the middle of planning a bachelor party for his older brother, Prince William, when the Mirror reported that Harry had invited Snoop Dogg to perform at a ?low-key but fun? party featuring ?mini-burgers, fish and chips.? He was unable to attend, but soon thereafter the rapper staged his own royal party in the music video for the 2011 song ?Wet,? where the Cataracts, a producing duo, played the role of the princes. (In a tweet at the time, he said he hoped it would be the soundtrack for the ?stag-do.?)
It seems that interaction might have actually sparked a friendship. ?Harry and William are my boys,? Snoop Dogg told the Mirror this week. ?As soon as I knew they were fans I reached out to them, and we?ve been cool ever since. I look out for them and they can reach out to me whenever they want they know that. I look out for them, and they can reach out to me whenever they want.?
He also praised Harry and his wife, Meghan Markle, for the bravery behind their royal exit. ?I said Prince Harry had big balls when he didn?t invite [Donald] Trump to his wedding,? the rapper said, referencing a 2018 interview where he discussed their guest list. ?And now, for real, I say he?s got an even bigger set of balls. Him and Meghan are living their lives like they want and that can?t be an easy thing with the whole world judging them. They got to live life their way ?they get a lot of respect from me for that.?
Snoop also invited the pair, who live outside of Los Angeles, to his home for Thanksgiving. ?If they want to come over for Thanksgiving dinner they are in for something special. They can come over to Snoop?s crib,? he said.
:happy: :tg3:
At least Snoop has learned how to peel a potato since appearing with Martha Stewart in 2008.
Snoop makes Mashed Potatoes | Snoop Dogg | Martha Stewart - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ocre0kXgvg)
If Harry and his family turned out to have had Thanksgiving with Snoop Dogg, complete with photos, then I will be having dinner with the Governor General of Australia this year. You heard it here first!
Send us photos of you with the Hurleys
@Curryong! :D
Yes, I will be sure to post those at the event itself.
@Curryong-I knew that I could count on you! :high5:
The Sussexes were seen in March leaving the property in a black Range Rover with Meghan in the passenger seat and her mother Doria Ragland in the back.
DailyMail.com last week revealed the couple flew home from NYC in a private jet owned by Guthy-Renker.
More: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle visited estate of beauty mogul Bill Guthy multiple times this year (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10058425/amp/Meghan-Markle-Guthy-Renker.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top&__twitter_impression=true)
So what if they visited the estate on several occasions. The couple know plenty of incredibly wealthy people. They were pictured driving away from the estate once in March. It?s now early October. Trust the Fail to put the worst possible connotations on everything. And Meghan?s signed nothing with/for his company yet. So wait and see.
Today in History:
Gerts Royal
2 years ago, Prince Harry?s last official engagement of 2019, before the Sussexes departed for Canada.
We were told at the time the couple were beginning their Christmas holiday break early for some ?family time.?
Source: Sussexsquad, Archie at the chicken coop
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Aww. Super cute photo of Archie with his flock. He's a chick magnet.
I've placed the source, which is not a photographic agency, taken with a Toshiba camera (probably Harry or Meghan), because there is a very thin line right across the picture, once seen, it looks like 2 chickens 🐔 have been photoshopped or something?!
Quote from: wannable on November 18, 2021, 03:18:35 PM
Today in History:
Gerts Royal
2 years ago, Prince Harry?s last official engagement of 2019, before the Sussexes departed for Canada.
We were told at the time the couple were beginning their Christmas holiday break early for some ?family time.?
I fully expected them to return to the UK as full time residents, but as we all know that wasn't the family's plan.
Quote from: wannable on November 18, 2021, 07:13:03 PM
Source: Sussexsquad, Archie at the chicken coop
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEfKqqZVQAEm70q?format=jpg&name=small)
I get not wanting your children to be public but what's the point of continuous shots of the back of Archie's head? Clearly I'm missing something.
It?s artsy. <_<
Continuous? How many photos of Archie taken from behind have you seen? I can only recollect about two, not counting this one, since the Sussexes moved to LA. and he?s now two and a half.
And exactly how many full face photos have we seen of Eugenie and Jack?s August and the Tindalls? son Lucas?
The Sussexes were reportedly spotted returning from their Veteran's Day trip to NY/NJ to LAX on a commercial flight.
Meghan and Harry fly commercial: Members of the royal family snuck a five-hour flight from New York to Los Angeles | 711Web (https://711web.com/meghan-and-harry-fly-commercial-members-of-the-royal-family-snuck-a-five-hour-flight-from-new-york-to-los-angeles/)
QuoteDuke and The Duchess of Sussex They were spotted flying back home in The On a business trip after a short trip to New York earlier this month.
Meghan and Harry spent three days in the Big Apple to celebrate Veterans Day and attend events in the city before returning on November 13.
A photo shared online by one of the other passengers appears to be appropriate Prince Harry Wearing a face mask, he leaves the plane after landing in Los Angeles.
It comes after the couple were accused of hypocrisy in September when they returned home from a Climate change Happened on a private plane.
The passenger wrote on social media: ?Well this might sound unreasonable and I can?t get a good picture and get it [sic] You could say this could literally be anyone? but? Prince Harry and Meghan were on our flight to Los Angeles last night!
Meghan shopping this past Wednesday
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/16/16/51875201-10317221-She_wore_a_brown_Massimo_Dutti_wool_coat_Tamara_Mellon_boots_LeS-a-5_1639672833100.jpg)
The 1st Montecito Car Parade of Lights
Harry and Meghan donated for their neighborhood parade.
1st Annual Montecito Car Parade of Lights - Montecito (https://www.montecitojournal.net/2021/12/14/1st-annual-montecito-car-parade-of-lights/)
:xmas26: That was a generous act from the couple to help with the car parade.
It?s a lovely idea and all looks like terrific fun for locals following an horrendous year. Glad to see the Sussexes were among the first to donate.
Events like this are always great. But since covid even more important. Fun and festive way to celebrate with your neighbors after a very long 18 months. Social distance and such but still together.
Great to see Meghan and Harry contribute to it. Hopefully they and the kids got out to see it.
I did manage to find a little article on the first time event. I'm guessing that the reason that this type of parade hadn't been held before is because Montecitio is very hilly and there isn't much space for people to gather to view it. The "shopping zone" where Meghan was photographed is very small when compared to neighboring Santa Barbara. However now that it happened, perhaps people might reconsider for the future and it can be held again.
The DM article has photos of the event. Residents Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'were first to donate' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10323687/Residents-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-donate.html)
Holiday Magic Parade - Montecito (https://www.montecitojournal.net/2021/12/02/holiday-magic-parade/) :xmas4:
QuoteThis Saturday, December 4, Montecito Association presents the first annual Holiday Magic Parade of Lights. Twenty-five cars and vehicles, decked out in their holiday finery, will parade through Montecito beginning at 5:30 pm.
The parade route will leave Upper Manning Park, turn onto North Jameson and onto Coast Village Road, through the roundabout onto Hot Springs Road, and end in the Upper Village via East Valley Road. There will be electric cars, vintage cars, and a 1937 firetruck, La Boheme dancers in cars, cars from Cold Spring School and Montecito Water District, Sheriff?s vehicles, and many others. Santa will also be in tow.
?It?s truly a community-based parade, and I am blown away by the sponsorship,? said MA executive director Sharon Byrne, who is organizing the event. ?It?s a beautiful thing to see.?
Residents are encouraged to stand on the parade route and cheer on the vehicles, especially along Coast Village Road and in the Upper Village.
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First look at baby Lilibet: Harry and Meghan release Christmas card | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10339953/First-look-baby-Lilibet-Harry-Meghan-release-Christmas-card.html)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Share First Photo of Lilibet Diana | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-lilibet-diana-first-photo-holiday-card/)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry FINALLY share photo of baby Lilibet as they release Christmas card | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20211223128971/meghan-markle-prince-harry-share-christmas-card-photo-2021/)
Harry and Meghan: First picture of couple's daughter Lilibet is released | World News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/harry-and-meghan-first-picture-of-couples-daughter-lilibet-is-released-12502915)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Christmas card has ADORABLE picture of Archie or Lilibet | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1540380/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Christmas-card-picture-Archie-Lilibet-Sussex-Royal-Family-news)
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle share first photo of Lilibet in 2021 Christmas card - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-prince-harry-meghan-markle-25773376)
Meghan Markle & Prince Harry reveal first glimpse of Lilibet on Christmas card with Archie as they share sweet message (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17127989/meghan-harry-reveal-lilibet-sweet-christmas-card-archie/)
Prince Harry, Meghan share 1st photo of daughter Lili in Christmas card photo | GMA (https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/prince-harry-meghan-share-1st-photo-daughter-lili-81914285)
See Prince Harry, Meghan Markle's 2021 Holiday Card With Archie and Lilibet (https://www.today.com/popculture/see-prince-harry-meghan-markles-2021-holiday-card-archie-lilibet-rcna9774)
Harry and Meghan share first picture of daughter Lilibet in holiday card - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/23/uk/harry-meghan-christmas-card-lilibet-intl-scli/index.html)
Meghan Markle, Prince Harry release holiday card featuring first photo of daughter Lilibet Diana | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/meghan-markle-prince-harry-release-holiday-card-first-photo-daughter-lilibet-diana)
This is their first beautiful picture (finally)
alexilubomirski
Verified
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Archie and Lilibet.
This is one of those rare and special projects, that one is fortunate enough to be a part of.
To be able to continue the story of this family whom I first photographed as an engaged couple, then on the day of their wedding, as a married couple and now seeing their love manifest into two beautiful children, has been a delightful honour.
Anyone who has seen my #AllLoveSeries, will know that one of the greatest joys I receive from photography, is when I am able to photograph "love" in some form or another.
To be trusted by your subjects enough, to open themselves up and have their connection documented and translated into an image, is one of the greatest gifts a photographer can have.
This day with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex was one such joyous experience, and one that I feel extremely privileged to have been invited to capture. X
Quote from: wannable on December 23, 2021, 02:50:17 PM
This is their first beautiful picture (finally)
I have to agree that this is their best family photo to date. :happy:They all look relaxed and happy in this photo. Lilibet's ruffled bottoms and matching white dress are classic baby girl looks. I'm guessing that she might have inherited Meghan's darker hair but at this age it's hard to really know. Those cheeks could rival Luxembourg's Charles! :vday2: Archie's red hair seems to be a tad darker than his Papa's though. He's definitely looking older and has lost that toddler look as he matures into a pre-schooler. :xmas2:
I agree
@TLLK Charles of Lux has found a rival for his cherub cheeks. :hearts:
Such a great photo. They all seem so happy and relaxed, enjoying their family.
Archie has definitely changed and growing into a little man. And if his hair keeps going, will not be such a bright carrot top as dad is.
I am not always a fan of the 'traditional little girl' look but I admit I am smiling. Her little ruffled bottoms are sweet. So happy to see her.
I like the couple continue to use their engagement photographer. They clearly have a comfortable relationship with him. And he is talented.
Prince Harry goes barefoot in trendy Christmas photoshoot with Meghan Markle, Archie and Lilibet | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10340019/Prince-Harry-bares-sole-Duke-Sussex-goes-barefoot-trendy-Christmas-photoshoot.html)
Meghan Markle shows a relaxed style in Christmas card photo with Prince Harry, Archie and Lilibet | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10339977/Dressed-Duchess-Meghan-Markle-opts-black-polo-neck-relaxed-jeans-Christmas-card.html)
Prince and Meghan Markle show baby Lilibet's face - and Archie has red hair | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10340139/Prince-Meghan-Markle-baby-Lilibets-face-Archie-red-hair.html)
Archie is mini dad!!
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Holiday Family Photo: All the Fun Details | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-archie-lilibet-holiday-card-fun-details/)
Royal fans are all saying the same thing about the first photo of Lilibet | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20211223129632/royal-fans-say-same-thing-first-photo-lilibet-meghan-markle-prince-harry/)
Harry and Meghan release first photo of Lilibet on Christmas card | Prince Harry | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/23/harry-meghan-first-photo-lilibet-christmas-card)
Archie takes on sweet trait from Prince Charles by calling Harry 'papa' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1540542/Archie-meghan-markle-prince-harry-Christmas-card-prince-Charles)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry back on 'front pages internationally' with Xmas card | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1540526/meghan-markle-prince-harry-christmas-card-lilibet-diana-debut-archie-royal-vn)
Meghan Markle's redhead family history unveiled as Archie proves recessive gene in photo | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1540484/meghan-markle-christmas-card-archie-ginger-redhead-prince-harry-spt)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry praised for funding Christmas event in neighbourhood | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1540132/meghan-markle-prince-harry-praised-funding-christmas-parade-montecito-california-ont)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Christmas card has ADORABLE picture of Archie or Lilibet | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1540380/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Christmas-card-picture-Archie-Lilibet-Sussex-Royal-Family-news)
Royal fans amazed by Archie's hair in new snap - and notice familiar feature in Lilibet - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/royal-fans-amazed-archies-hair-25774244)
The five hidden signs in Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Christmas card - and what they mean (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17130502/five-hidden-signs-harry-meghan-christmas-card/)
Meg & Harry beam 'Lili made us a family' as they share first pic of daughter (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17127989/meghan-harry-reveal-lilibet-sweet-christmas-card-archie/)
Meghan Markle & Prince Harry 'celebrate freedom from painful' royal life with 'idyllic' Christmas card, expert claims (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17128970/meghan-markle-prince-harry-celebrate-freedom-christmas-card/)
Royal fans amazed by Archie?s hair in Meghan and Harry?s new Christmas card - and they love Lilibet?s too (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/17131219/fans-love-archie-lilibet-hair-meghan-harry-xmas-card/)
That is a beautiful Xmas card, showing a very happy laughing family. They are so comfortable together and the two children, including red headed Archie, are adorable.
Finally, a normal picture. Yes the children?s faces are slightly filtered, but,their right to privacy. AGAIN, I APPAULD SUSSEX for keeping the children as private as possible starting from infants. When the children get good in their grade school years to teen years, the public and media will mostly not know what they truly look like so the kids can to Disney with friends and their families or school trips and things.
If Jacqueline K O could keep her children private here in the USA after 1969/1970, MegHen can.
This is a nice family picture. Lovely family. Beautiful children.
Harry and Meghan used this clever trick to protect Archie and Lili?s privacy | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20211224129648/harry-meghan-clever-trick-archie-lilibet-privacy/)
Sad to read that the author of the Meghan Markle Review has decided to end this blog. :( Admittedly it wasn't one that I followed as frequently as others ie Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor, Luxarazzi, Gert's Royals or Royal Central, but I did appreciate reading different points of view. Sadly too many of these blogs have been disappearing in recent years. The author admits that she'd stopped writing as frequently during the pandemic, but had started up again as lock downs ended. She lists her two reasons why she stopped, but did mention that she'd consider writing about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex on her sister blog Kate Middleton Review if needed.
Why I won?t be blogging about Meghan anymore ? Meghan Markle Review (http://meghanmarklereview.com/2021/12/why-i-wont-be-blogging-about-meghan-anymore/)
An opinion shared by many imo.
That author had a long hiatus of not writing about Kate either, long before lockdown. There was some statement given about personal reasons for not blogging for weeks. I remember following the two blogs in the months after Meghan?s marriage but haven?t followed either for about a year and a half. .
I disagree with some of the remarks she?s made, about Harry especially, and about the reasons for their leaving the RF. IMO there is a lot more to come out about that in future years. One of the reasons I?m looking forward to reading Tina Brown?s book and Harry?s. However, this author of Meghan?s Review is more than entitled to write about who and what she likes.
I agree fully with the blogger. It?s her blog, her opinion and if the topic doesn?t spark interest (actually to the point of boredom and anger) then why blog?
Meghan is no longer a working royal. Her blog style is fashion, patronages, appearances....
This type of blog has its viewers; royal watchers that can have a quick 'something to learn' about fashion (what the subject has worn, where to purchase, cost), patronages and appearances (quick review where the subject went, what was the purpose) all in one place rather than reading half to a dozen or more articles with Royal Rota reportings. Although some like to read (for example ME, Wannable) the dozen, check instagram, check super quick twitter of what RR's have to say/they are direct/live at the duty, so each EYE and EAR captures a breaking news, a curiosity, a fill in the blank of what the see and hear.
Going to ask a touchy question here, *Does having a title be it Duchess, Countess, Princess or Baroness make you a royal person? Do you have to be born a royal to be a royal person? I know that Anne, Beatrice, Eugenie are all blood born royals and should be awarded the courtesy of that......yet for other women in any royal family, does a title make you just like someone born in a royal family or not? Just curious is why I am asking!
Quote from: Nightowl on December 29, 2021, 01:13:01 AM
Going to ask a touchy question here, *Does having a title be it Duchess, Countess, Princess or Baroness make you a royal person? Do you have to be born a royal to be a royal person? I know that Anne, Beatrice, Eugenie are all blood born royals and should be awarded the courtesy of that......yet for other women in any royal family, does a title make you just like someone born in a royal family or not? Just curious is why I am asking!
The vast majority of Duchesses, Countesses, Baronesses etc have the (courtesy) title because they have married Into the aristocracy and their husbands are Dukes, Earls etc. Most of these, and their wives, aren?t royals. They?re aristocrats, unless they get a Barony for services to politics, arts and so on. Mrs Thatcher was a Baroness in her own right because of that and she certainly wasn?t royal. Royal Dukedoms are the exception.
As with the above, most Princesses around the world have the title because of their husbands. Wives in all cases take their status from their husbands, so, for instance the wife of the heir to the Throne and his daughters in law are most certainly regarded as royal due to that.
However, although not by precedence, Princesses of the Blood like the Princess Royal, Beatrice and Eugenie (and foreign born princesses born in the same sort of position) have the title by virtue of their parentage and therefore that is considered superior to being a married-in, in that your HRH can never be taken away by divorce. Your father and/or mother?s status is what mattered.
Curryong:
Thank you so much, I needed lesson in regards to how titles work for non royal born women. I get confused at times on what means what with all the protocols that are in place. Sometimes I wonder why Sarah is still called the Duchess of York when she is divorced from Andrew as she is not a born royal woman. I only see born royal woman today as Princess Anne, Beatrice, Eugenie, and now Charlotte. :flower:
Sarah has lost her HRH because of her divorce. she is known as Sarah Duchess of York not HRH THE Duchess of York. Meghan sitll has her HRH but she and Harry have had to give up using it in business situations, and she is no longer a working royal... so presumably her blogger follower does not consider her to be of interest any more.
Quote from: Amabel2 on December 29, 2021, 09:03:16 AM
Sarah has lost her HRH because of her divorce. she is known as Sarah Duchess of York not HRH THE Duchess of York. Meghan sitll has her HRH but she and Harry have had to give up using it in business situations, and she is no longer a working royal... so presumably her blogger follower does not consider her to be of interest any more.
So this: If a non royal woman loses her HRH (Her Royal Highness) part of the title then she is then treated just like she was before marriage.....right? Oh so darn confusing......yet the same divorced woman who just lost her HRH can still keep her title be it Duchess, Countess, whatever and use it? Why not just take the whole darn title off her in a divorce and the same for a man......go back to what you were before the marriage sounds so much simpler then using just *half* a title. And on top of it all who curtsy to whomever and who walks in front of whomever. How do these women ever get it right and still breath......just glad it is not me as I like the simpler life which is breathing when I want.........LOL Thanks you for the info.......So I am thinking and correct me if I wrong, that someone who has a title with NO HRH, then it is an empty title meaning nothing.......One thing I learned is that there are *lots* of princes and princesses running around Europe with half a title ......My title it just *Ms* and would not change it for all the money in the world.....or for any man.
Not really sure what you mean. In the UK (continental royals have their own rules) the loss of the HRH is rather a big thing. It is within the queen's gift and it signifies a certain status and closeness to the monarch. So when Diana lost hers after her divorce, she was not that happy about it. It meant that she would not be curtsied to by other royals, and I think that it was the beginning of a realisation for Diana that walking out and getting a divorce was going to affect her adversely, that she was basically losing her royal status.
When royal women in the UK are divorced, they are losing their royal status but they can still use their husband's title as a surname.. just as the wives of peers do. So Diana was Diana Pss of Wales.. and Fergie was Sarah Dss of York.
It is essentially an empty title though.. but it provides some status. One wouldnt expect the ex wife of the Pr of Wales to go back to Lady Diana Spencer..
To retturn to Meghan, she hasn't lost her HRH but she and Harry have been told that they can't use it for business purposes. I dont think that there is any restiction on them using it in a social setting but as they now live in the US and have given up their royal duties I suppose that this blogger feels they are not senior royals any more and she doesnt want to blog about Meg... plus she's disappointed at the way they behaved.
We understand that there is an interest in American politics on Meghan's part. I'm of the opinion that if that materializes she should not be permitted to use HRH in the world of politics, either.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on December 31, 2021, 11:56:10 PM
We understand that there is an interest in American politics on Meghan's part. I'm of the opinion that if that materializes she should not be permitted to use HRH in the world of politics, either.
I cna't see that she would do that. While one can hold a title in the US, as far as I can see, if one is involved in politics, one can't use a foreign title. And it would probalby go down badly anyway. I would imagine alos that the queen has forbidden the use of hte HRH in any kind of public activity such as money making or politics.
So after 01/01/2022 article about their comms, the next day we get this :laugh: (IF these stories are true/pan out, the couple probably want to further stop the leaks)
The Daily Mirror (originator) says the couple are selling Montecito home because they aren't over the moon with that property.
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Megxit from Montecito mansion? Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'plan to leave ?11m California home and find somewhere new' - because they're 'not over the moon' with luxury property
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle want to move from their California mansion
Insiders claimed the couple are now looking at other places to raise children
Comes after they spent their first Christmas as a family in the sprawling mansi
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'plan to leave ?11m California home' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10362167/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-plan-leave-11m-California-home.html)
The DM format is better to read.
Also from the Daily Mirror, Archie's nursery school, which also says they are moving out/selling. For clicks they separated 2 articles.
For my preferred format reading, the Daily Mail
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Meghan and Harry are sending Archie, two, to Californian nursery teaching 'emotional literacy' and 'how to be kind' and his classmates have no idea he's royal, fellow parent claims
Archie goes a nursery which teaches 'emotional literacy' and 'kindness'
California school also teaches Spanish, music, dance, theatre and coding
Classmates have no idea that Archie or his parents are royal, fellow parent says
Meghan and Harry are sending Archie to a nursery with 'emotional literacy' lessons | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10362437/Meghan-Harry-sending-Archie-nursery-emotional-literacy-lessons.html)
Can?t afford it?
@wannable-Wow I didn't expect to see two artcles from "unnamed sources" immediately after the story in the Daily Telegraph regarding the couple's plan to verify the stories. Yes they need to shut this down very quickly. :unsure:
QuoteBut unnamed ?sources? will no longer speak for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, their team have promised.
The Sussexes? communications team at Archewell will speak on the record or not at all, as fans of the couple are warned to pay no heed to mystery ?sources? claiming to talk for them in the press.
However I am not surprised that Archie is attending a nursery school now. He gets some socialization with kids his age and a wee bit of independence along with early literacy, math, fine and gross motor etc etc etc... :yesss: I am a fan of early childhood education.
Quote from: Macrobug67 on January 02, 2022, 07:32:48 PM
Can?t afford it?
SALT-State and local taxes are steep in CA so if the story is true, it could lead them to consider a smaller more affordable home in the area.
While I am not sure who the "inside source" is, I would say from the description that Archie and Lilibet are enjoying an idyllic childhood in Santa Barbara Co. :happy:
Archie, Lilibet?s low-key lifestyle in Montecito mansion: Insider (https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/923879-archie-lilibet-s-low-key-lifestyle-in-montecito-mansion-insider)
QuoteAn inside source just shed some light into the lives Meghan Markle and Prince Harry?s children are leading out in Montecito.
According to OK! Magazine, Archie has already taken after his father and has adopted the habit of going barefoot.
Reportedly, ?Instead of a castle, they live in a mansion in Montecito overlooking the Pacific Ocean? and it has a ?cool playhouse in their garden and Archie loves running around the lawn with the dogs. He?s at the age where he can?t keep still.?
However, in moments where he does find the time to sit still, he becomes a very doting big brother to Lilibet who is his complete opposite since ?Lili likes to sit back and take everything in.?
The source also gave fans some insight into her features and admitted, ?So far, she has her mother?s dark hair, and she loves to smile, coo and blow bubbles. Nannies say she's really an angel!"
Not only that, while ?Harry sees a lot of himself in Archie Lili takes after Meghan? so there?s an even mix in their household.
Not only that, given their connections within Hollywood?s inner circle, they have already started going on playdates with kids from around the neighbourhood and ?Meghan and Harry include Archie and Lili in all of their socializing, so they have a few famous friends of their own.?
Up till now, ?They?ve had playdates with Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom?s 16-month-old, Daisy, and David Foster and Katharine McPhee?s baby boy, Rennie [10 months], as well.?
However, the duo has still to become aware of their parents? fame and fortune because, ?They will make sure Archie and Lili get a diverse education and want them to be able to express what?s on their mind."?
"Growing up royal, Harry was often discouraged from saying what he felt, but he won?t dissuade his own children from doing that. With any luck, Archie and Lili will learn how to treat people with kindness and generosity.?
Jonathon S was mentioned when I clicked on it. I?ve read this Jonathon person?s articles before and he is a US correspondent who often speaks on GB TV news channel about the Sussexes and hasn?t been flattering. So if he wrote it it?s a turnaround.
However, I don?t know that I believe this article. I do believe they are happy and content in California and that their family life is great. But Nannies were mentioned and I dont believe they employ any fulltime ones. And play dates with celebrities? children who happen to have been mentioned in news reports in the last six months and no other neighbours?
Quote from: Curryong on January 11, 2022, 02:54:09 AM
Jonathon S was mentioned when I clicked on it. I?ve read this Jonathon person?s articles before and he is a US correspondent who often speaks on GB TV news channel about the Sussexes and hasn?t been flattering. So if he wrote it it?s a turnaround.
However, I don?t know that I believe this article. I do believe they are happy and content in California and that their family life is great. But Nannies were mentioned and I dont believe they employ any fulltime ones. And play dates with celebrities? children who happen to have been mentioned in news reports in the last six months and no other neighbours?
I believe these "nannies" who are very likely the "inside source" for the article, are not necessarily employed by the Sussexes but are in fact the nannies of their lesser known/private citizen neighbors that they've had play dates with and then they chat with each other via text or in-person. The play dates are likely with Archie's pre-school classmates who have nannies too and they chat about their encounters with the public/private families. Those employed by the public figures: Katy Perry, and Orlando Bloom, The Sussexes etc...would likely have NDAs but the private ones might not be bound to any such legal document. An opportunity to share some upbeat news about Archie and Lilibet would probably provide one or more of the nannies with some extra income.
If the Sussexes choose to do so, the could take legal action against the outlets that published the story or they might choose to let this go. The information is pretty generic and very positive. :happy: However they might use this as an opportunity to discover who was the "inside source" and avoid them in the future.
Quote from: TLLK on January 02, 2022, 08:19:17 PM
@wannable-Wow I didn't expect to see two artcles from "unnamed sources" immediately after the story in the Daily Telegraph regarding the couple's plan to verify the stories. Yes they need to shut this down very quickly. :unsure:
However I am not surprised that Archie is attending a nursery school now. He gets some socialization with kids his age and a wee bit of independence along with early literacy, math, fine and gross motor etc etc etc... :yesss: I am a fan of early childhood education.
Agree about ECE.
Quote from: Amabel2 on December 29, 2021, 12:54:47 PM
Not really sure what you mean. In the UK (continental royals have their own rules) the loss of the HRH is rather a big thing. It is within the queen's gift and it signifies a certain status and closeness to the monarch. So when Diana lost hers after her divorce, she was not that happy about it. It meant that she would not be curtsied to by other royals, and I think that it was the beginning of a realisation for Diana that walking out and getting a divorce was going to affect her adversely, that she was basically losing her royal status.
When royal women in the UK are divorced, they are losing their royal status but they can still use their husband's title as a surname.. just as the wives of peers do. So Diana was Diana Pss of Wales.. and Fergie was Sarah Dss of York.
It is essentially an empty title though.. but it provides some status. One wouldnt expect the ex wife of the Pr of Wales to go back to Lady Diana Spencer..
To retturn to Meghan, she hasn't lost her HRH but she and Harry have been told that they can't use it for business purposes. I dont think that there is any restiction on them using it in a social setting but as they now live in the US and have given up their royal duties I suppose that this blogger feels they are not senior royals any more and she doesnt want to blog about Meg... plus she's disappointed at the way they behaved.
Titles matter. Titles are earned or born to or married.
I am generally speaking of all titles some people may have :
Lady, Princess, Prince and the rest of those .
Doctor, Judge, First Lady, President, CEO, CFO, COO, etc.
Titles are a curtesy way to address someone who has just the ordinary, everyday titles of Mr., Mrs., Ms.
To Sarah, Meg, Andrew, not using that HRH means no one curtsy?s , bows to them. I wonder ob Meg n Harrys Unofficial official USA Royal Tour , lol, did they have people bow and curtsy.
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Royal Privacy and Security Throughout the Years (http://www.royalinsight.net/forum/index.php?topic=67501.0)
The local Montecito paper says it was a local Realtor that invented the Montecito home sale, apparently he didn't know the lie was going to be worldwide news.
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Source of the newspaper cuts: Omid Scobie
Now, I hear that Prince Harry and Meghan want some of the screen pair?s stardust to rub off on themselves.
I can reveal that the royal couple contacted Holland and Zendaya out of the blue and asked to meet.
'Tom and Zendaya were rather bemused, from what I hear,' one of Harry's old friends tells me.
'Tom had never met Harry or spoken to him in his life, so didn't know what they wanted.'
Nevertheless, the actors agreed to meet the Sussexes, who live in Montecito, California. 'The meeting took place,' claims the source.
More: Meghan and Harry's secret meeting with stars Tom and Zendaya - The Mail
What a load of absolute crapola! The Fail have excelled themselves in the BS awards with this one by grabbing some scraping of Hollywood gossip, or more likely made it up themselves, and pushed it out on a slow news day.
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on January 29, 2022, 02:24:38 PM
Now, I hear that Prince Harry and Meghan want some of the screen pair?s stardust to rub off on themselves.
I can reveal that the royal couple contacted Holland and Zendaya out of the blue and asked to meet.
'Tom and Zendaya were rather bemused, from what I hear,' one of Harry's old friends tells me.
'Tom had never met Harry or spoken to him in his life, so didn't know what they wanted.'
Nevertheless, the actors agreed to meet the Sussexes, who live in Montecito, California. 'The meeting took place,' claims the source.
More: Meghan and Harry's secret meeting with stars Tom and Zendaya - The Mail
If the meeting has taken place, then I hope that Tom and Zendaya had an enjoyable time with the Sussexes.
Quote from: TLLK on January 30, 2022, 05:21:28 AM
If the meeting has taken place, then I hope that Tom and Zendaya had an enjoyable time with the Sussexes.
My thoughts exactly, TLLK - one hardly knows whether to believe anything in the media about them anymore, so just hope that if true and for whatever reason it happened, that it was a good visit.
Prince Harry and his cousin Princess Eugenie are at Sofia Stadium to watch the Super Bowl 🏈.
Quote from: TLLK on February 14, 2022, 02:03:10 AM
Prince Harry and his cousin Princess Eugenie are at Sofia Stadium to watch the Super Bowl 🏈.
Photo of them together in the watching crowd.
Prince Harry Attends Super Bowl with Princess Eugenie | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-first-super-bowl-cousin-princess-eugenie/)
Nice to see the two cousins enjoying some quality time. Now do either know football enough to understand or just there for half time :laugh10:
I suspect Eugenie is in town for work (I believe she went back). Her gallery is taking part in an art show in Beverly Hills that starts Thursday. Many of her 'US holidays' as they were painted by media were work trips for such events.
Frieze Los Angeles | Frieze (https://www.frieze.com/fairs/frieze-los-angeles)
Nice she could combine work with pleasure if it is. Hopefully get in some time with Meghan and kids too.
I don?t know about Eugenie but if you you know a lot about both codes of Rugby, and Harry does, then you?d be able to pick up games of grid iron quite easily. Rugby is an ancestor of Rugby type games that were taken across the Atlantic in the mid-19th century and earlier and converted . My husband and son have never played grid iron, or rugby (Victoria is an AFL State) but they both watched the game today, and followed it easily, noting it?s similarity to Rugby. I believe Harry?s attended games of grid iron when in the US anyway, years ago.
Quote from: TudorQueen on February 14, 2022, 09:30:44 AM
Nice to see the two cousins enjoying some quality time. Now do either know football enough to understand or just there for half time :laugh10:
I suspect Eugenie is in town for work (I believe she went back). Her gallery is taking part in an art show in Beverly Hills that starts Thursday. Many of her 'US holidays' as they were painted by media were work trips for such events.
Frieze Los Angeles | Frieze (https://www.frieze.com/fairs/frieze-los-angeles)
Nice she could combine work with pleasure if it is. Hopefully get in some time with Meghan and kids too.
I agree that since she was going to be in Los Angeles most likely for work, that she should spend some time with the Sussexes.
Considering their ages, the half time show line up was spot on for their demographic. :D
Here's some photos of Prince Harry in the victorious Rams' locker room with the Lombardi trophy. Yes the NFL's trophy is positively minuscule when compared to its NHL counterpart. :wink: (0ops..no masks visible on anyone in the photos. As of Sunday 2/13/22 it was still required by the state and Los Angeles Co. health departments regardless of vaccine status. )
https://twitter.com/RamsNFL/status/1493670192089485313
Prince Harry is spotted wearing a cowboy hat on solo visit to famous Texas rodeo - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/prince-harry-spotted-wearing-cowboy-26412161?podsave=)
Before Woke era: Trouble in paradise
After Woke era: He (and her) are having each their own me time.
Like his older brother Prince William, Prince Harry worked on a farm during his gap year. William at a Cornish dairy farm and Harry at an Australian cattle farm , so he's familiar with some of the skills required to herd livestock. However I expect that the only bull riding he might have done over the past weekend was probably on a mechanical one. Fort Worth is famous for its cowboy related museums, attractions and nightlife.
Prince Harry Reprises Past Role as Cowboy at Texas Rodeo (https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-reprises-past-role-cowboy-texas-rodeo-fort-worth-hat-fort-worth-1685773)
Actually (and I?m surprised Newsweek journalists didn?t know this) Australian cattle properties are called neither ?ranches? nor ?farms? but ?cattle stations?.
I agree Harry was probably having some fun on a mechanical bull. A young male relative of my husband?s went to some bar in Texas when he was visiting the US and had a go on the mechanical bull they had there.
How I would love to see pictures of the baby and Archie right now - at almost 1 Lili must be so adorable, and I'd love to see Archie's continuing resemblance to his father. It's always so interesting to catch those similarities. I understand why they don't want their childrens' faces to be easily recognized for security's sake; I'm just saying I'd love to see them.
Archie and Lilibet have birthdays coming up soon, so we might see a pair of photos released.
James Corden reveals he and Prince Harry's children have play dates | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10811435/James-Corden-reveals-Prince-Harrys-children-play-dates.html)
QuoteJames Corden has praised Prince Harry as a devoted husband and father and revealed their children have play dates together.
The chat show host, 43, has become pals with Harry and his wife Meghan Markle and lives just an hour and a half away from the couple's sprawling mansion in Montecito, California.
Speaking to The Sun, James revealed he and wife Julia Carey have been for dinner with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and their kids also spend time together. sked if he had been to the couple's ?11million home, James said: 'I have. It was more a sort of play date scenario [with the kids]. Then we went out for dinner after, it was lovely.'
James and Julia are parents to children Max, 11, Carey, seven, and Charlotte, four, while Prince Harry and Meghan share Archie, three, and Lilibet, 11 months.
Quote from: TLLK on April 24, 2022, 05:42:01 PM
Archie and Lilibet have birthdays coming up soon, so we might see a pair of photos released.
That would be nice, but they seem intent on not showing the children's faces. We shouldn't expect to see a photo that would show what they look like.
An opinion piece from The Spectator World.
The unremarkable Meghan Markle - The Spectator World (https://spectatorworld.com/topic/remarkable-meghan-markle/)
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Was spotted? In real time during the outing, aggressive publicists at Archewell were shopping and circulating copy and photos to media, getting instant pickup by Yahoo News, People, Elle, and other outlets worldwide.
It?s hard to sell these days to friendly media. Something so blatantly disgusting with criminal deaths, editors will sellout the celebrity.
If it weren?t death related MM wouldn?t be slammed like this. Even the local Santa Barbara papers are badmouthing the Sussexes since this past Sunday.
I doubt very very much that people anywhere are poring over Meghan and her visit to the memorial tutt-tutting, while reading. And in fact her visit was welcomed there by several locals.
The crime involved was a massacre of young children, an occasion all to familiar in a nation of gun nuts who refuse to give up their weapons however many innocents are killed. It?s that fact that?s the crime not anything Meghan, who has been anti guns for years, has done.
People are turning off media reports spruiked by newspapers etc. Print media has been dying a slow death for at least twenty years. This is especially true of younger people. And people mistrust media reports more and more.
Growing numbers avoiding news as too depressing: report - Japan Today (https://japantoday.com/category/world/growing-numbers-avoiding-news-as-'too-depressing'-report)
?The depressing state of the world is leading people to switch off from the news, the Reuters Institute reported on Wednesday.
The combined impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, Russia-Ukraine war and cost-of-living crisis have led to declining interest in the news, a survey by the British research group found.
Across 46 countries surveyed and 93,000 participants, it found the share who said they actively avoided the news had increased from 29 to 38 percent since 2017.
The numbers doubled in some countries, including Brazil (54 percent) and Britain (46).
Young people in particular found the news to be a downer, but the chief reason for avoiding the news was its repetitiveness, especially around COVID and politics.
"I actively avoid things that trigger my anxiety and things that can have a negative impact on my day," a 27-year-old British respondent told the researchers. "I will try to avoid reading news about things like deaths and disasters."
Others said the news led to arguments they would rather avoid, or a feeling of powerlessness, while many young people said they found it hard to understand.
Lead author Nic Newman said the findings were "particularly challenging for the news industry".
Perhaps calmer and nicer events are in order.
True that about depressing news.
What I find most distressing is people, like the young woman quoted, avoiding reading about things that could upset them or ruin their day. How will things ever get better if we all hide out heads in the sand? True journalism could make a comeback if greed would not interfere - this is just one thing we could address.
Hear Hear......Greed has taken over the world and the it is hard to believe any newspaper or TV or anyone these days.
Harry and Meghan baby-photo fallout shows they were right to leave Britain and the royals ? The Irish Times (https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/people/2022/06/07/harry-and-meghan-baby-photo-fallout-shows-they-were-right-to-leave-britain-and-the-royals/)
?Why would Harry and Meghan choose to put their family through more curtain-twitching, tight-lipped vitriol and barely disguised racism?and all because they knew what they?d like to do with their own lives??
Money?
I thought after stating 17 lies to Oprah, whaaaaat et all, they wouldn?t ever come.
Meghan Markle's obstetrician who helped deliver Lilibet shuts her practice with little notice | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10942103/Meghan-Markles-obstetrician-helped-deliver-Lilibet-shuts-practice-little-notice.html)
The supposed request by the Sussexes to have a photo of Lilibet taken with the Queen when they met was a pack of lies started by the media. The article below examines the sources for the non story. Might have known that Angela Levin would be there in the midst of it. She?s never met Meghan and last saw Harry to speak to when she was writing a book about him (prior to Meghan being in the picture) in 2017.
Were Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Not Allowed to Take Photo of Queen and Lilibet? (https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a40375725/meghan-markle-prince-harry-rejected-lilibet-queen-photo-scandal-explained/)
The NYPost examines Angela Levin, Prince Harry's biographer...Anyway, I don't think there's a picture of Lili and Granny. The Sussexes aren't special anymore, 2nd row, none working royals, none senior royals, etc. They'd need to come to Balmoral like everyone else to take a group picture with Granny. Prince George is the Special One (or a baptism picture of Lili and Granny, which isn't a given! Granny doesn't go to every baptism...)
The reality is, a 15 minute (family) meeting isn't enough time to get intimate. To date, 15 minute meetings are used for 'internal' business/progress report.
10 hours ago22:54 Rosie Jempson
'So deeply appreciated' Meghan Markle sends wishes to US mums in 'moving' tribute
MEGHAN MARKLE has reached out to a group of mothers campaigning for gun law reforms in the United States in what the organisation's leader called a "moving" gesture.
The Duchess of Sussex, who lives in California with Prince Harry and their young children, three-year-old Archie and one-year-old Lilibet, last month travelled to Texas to lay flowers at the memorial of the Uvalde school mass shooting.
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I applaud Meghan and everyone else who speaks out to get this gun issues under control and my view about guns is this: The only time this will be solved is when a child or grandchild is killed by a madman with a gun who is the child of a congressman/woman in my congress as this issue has to hit them square in the eyes to make them understand the horror so many parents have faced, than and only than will they do something. I am sorry if this upsets people here. Yet my gov is dumb, blind and plain stupid about guns. GREED has taken over my gov as this is all about money.
A lot of mental health problems and a divided country.
Switzerland and pre war Ukraine have similar 2nd amendment (everyone owns a gun) no deranged kid with a history of being bullied goes mayhem (sic, the story repeats, different dude). The worse thing I find is that all the cases of looneys are known to people in uniform, but no surveillance.
Quote from: wannable on June 24, 2022, 01:51:57 AM
A lot of mental health problems and a divided country.
Switzerland and pre war Ukraine have similar 2nd amendment (everyone owns a gun) no deranged kid with a history of being bullied goes mayhem (sic, the story repeats, different dude). The worse thing I find is that all the cases of looneys are known to people in uniform, but no surveillance.
You don?t think that most countries in the western world don?t have citizens with mental health problems? Because they do! And yet they do not have the terrible ongoing gun violence of the US, week after week, month after month, year after year, for many many decades. They have very strict gun laws, and it shows in their figures.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
People from the Right who approve of lax US gun laws always bring Switzerland up in their examples. Switzerland has a militia but also has extremely strict rules on where these rifles, guns and ammunition are stored (and it?s not usually multiple guns we are talking about here either.) Permits are extremely hard to obtain.
There is a chasm between Switzerland and other First World countries and the US with regard to guns and that is that an armed militia has been in the US since the 18th century and was enshrined in that country?s Constitution since the beginning.
From then on gun violence was fed by the Wild West, a violent Civil War and guns being constantly glorified in more modern pop culture in songs, countless Westerns, gangster movies and vigilante films, pouring out through constant TV programmes and Cinemas into US hearts and minds.
Add to that a history of exceptionalism and individualism as in ?No government going to push Me around and tell Me what to do!?
No other Western country has that history nor does any other First World country have the equivalent of the powerful NRA and its lobbyists in Congress.
Switzerland Gun Laws: Why the Country Has Fewer Gun Deaths Than the US (https://www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-2)
?In 2000, more than 25% of Swiss gun owners said they kept their weapon for military or police duty, while less than 5% of Americans said the same.?
?The Swiss have strict rules for who can get a gun, and take firearm training very seriously.?
Thank you for a great informative post and I completely agree with you. For many years mow I have watched the slow decline of my country right before my eyes......Greed, Entitlement, Egos, all about money and power have become a way of life here....Trump showed the world just what the US is all about and most people here could care less,, I won't be around to see my country collapse yet I strongly believe it will in time. History does have a way of repeating itself as we all have seem in the decline of monarchies throughout the world.
Quote from: wannable on June 24, 2022, 01:51:57 AM
A lot of mental health problems and a divided country.
Switzerland and pre war Ukraine have similar 2nd amendment (everyone owns a gun) no deranged kid with a history of being bullied goes mayhem (sic, the story repeats, different dude). The worse thing I find is that all the cases of looneys are known to people in uniform, but no surveillance.
Yes and the mental health issue is one that gets cut in all budgets here.....where does that money go....someone's pocket I gather. A person 18 cam go buy any gun he wants yet the same person cam can't buy a beer, that is for 21 year olds......as my sister told me so many times *there is mo cure for stupid*, that is my congress, their bank accounts has to come first instead of the lives of children in my country. I am furious at my congress, raging mad more like it. Yet one vote wouldn't change a thing.....
Quote from: Curryong on June 24, 2022, 02:23:31 AM
You don?t think that most countries in the western world don?t have citizens with mental health problems? Because they do! And yet they do not have the terrible ongoing gun violence of the US, week after week, month after month, year after year, for many many decades. They have very strict gun laws, and it shows in their figures.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
People from the Right who approve of lax US gun laws always bring Switzerland up in their examples. Switzerland has a militia but also has extremely strict rules on where these rifles, guns and ammunition are stored (and it?s not usually multiple guns we are talking about here either.) Permits are extremely hard to obtain.
There is a chasm between Switzerland and other First World countries and the US with regard to guns and that is that an armed militia has been in the US since the 18th century and was enshrined in that country?s Constitution since the beginning.
From then on gun violence was fed by the Wild West, a violent Civil War and guns being constantly glorified in more modern pop culture in songs, countless Westerns, gangster movies and vigilante films, pouring out through constant TV programmes and Cinemas into US hearts and minds.
Add to that a history of exceptionalism and individualism as in ?No government going to push Me around and tell Me what to do!?
No other Western country has that history nor does any other First World country have the equivalent of the powerful NRA and its lobbyists in Congress.
Switzerland Gun Laws: Why the Country Has Fewer Gun Deaths Than the US (https://www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-2)
?In 2000, more than 25% of Swiss gun owners said they kept their weapon for military or police duty, while less than 5% of Americans said the same.?
?The Swiss have strict rules for who can get a gun, and take firearm training very seriously.?
It's not the thread, hence my generalization. But the USA has mental health facilities at a 'price', the ratio of 'free' services in communities is very poor considering 1/5 people in the USA suffers from MH issues. All people in 'uniform' are also overwhelmed 365 days of the year. Switzerland has the best free healthcare, including mental health.
Then, consider both the subjects of this board/thread they had or are still battling their own mental health issues, said by themselves or lie #18 (and 19). Oprah Interview.
NOTE: IMO both Harry and Meghan are working on their MH issues. The only couple that didn't bring their children to the Trooping of the Color. Yesterday confirmation came that all the children were 'behind the scenes' except the Sussex children. Lot's of caretakers, special menu lunch for the children, etc. etc. etc.
Why did the couple exclude their children from the other children?
70 British Royal Family members at Buckingham Palace, Trooping of the Color.
Again, IMO these are the special moments where ''all'' can meet and greet, get to know each other. Why did the couple keep their children excluded in Frogmore? We wouldn't need to see Harry and Meghan shushing children that aren't theirs. They'd be busy with their own, enjoying the cousins, etc. Even if Archie won't remember (or maybe yes) he'd have his real first with the entire extended family. Sad IMO. Very sad.
^^Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with the US having the worst gun death rates in the Western world. And Meghan has supported gun law reform for many years, long before the Oprah interview. She was expressing her sympathies with those mothers as a mother herself as was stated in articles about her visit and the letter she wrote.
Nor does what was said in the Oprah interview last year have anything whatsoever to do with 18 year old American loners being able to buy weapons as easily as I in Australia am able to buy some apples at my local greengrocers, and then shooting children to death at a local school. Unless you are suggesting that the Sussexes are responsible for mental health facilities in the US.
Apparently the Tindall children did go to Lilibet?s birthday party, along with other children. We don?t know that August Brooksbank or Sienna Mozzi were at Horseguards either. And as it?s been reported that Archie goes regularly to kinder in Montecito and will be going to school there in a couple of years and has regular play dates with friends children I doubt he is living a secluded life!
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Harry and Meghan are seen pulling into Oprah's Montecito home over the weekend | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10958157/Harry-Meghan-seen-pulling-Oprahs-Montecito-home-weekend.html)
A business visit with their Archewell COO.
Oprah 2.0?
Meghan Markle hints at political ambitions in Gloria Steinem interview | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10964227/Well-going-DC-soon-Meghan-Markle-hints-political-ambitions-Roe-v-Wade-interview.html)
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Meghan Markle talks pregnancy and 'feminist' husband Prince Harry in intimate new interview | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220629144114/meghan-markle-roe-v-wade-prince-harry-feminist/)
Meghan Markle pictured looking worried and fearful in emotional personal moment | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220629144161/meghan-markle-new-photo-looking-worried/)
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Meghan Markle hints at trip to Washington DC as she pledges to 'show up' for her causes | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1632696/meghan-markle-news-duchess-sussex-politics-row-v-wade-prince-harry-latest)
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-06-29/us-abortion-ruling-tells-women-they-dont-matter-meghan-says
Meghan Markle shares 'sentiment of despair' with Harry over US abortion ruling - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/meghan-markle-shares-sentiment-despair-27356490)
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Meghan Markle hints at political ambitions branding Supreme Court Roe v Wade decision 'a blueprint for reversing rights' | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19036985/meghan-markle-political-ambitions-roe-v-wade/)
From bandwagon to bandwagon (support), from one tragedy to the next...IF she only would stick to 'projects' until something of it happens (good or bad, but stick in there, try/work for it...like i.e. William with Brit homelessness, which I admire but why can't the government give the Brits better treatment than illegal immigrants; who receive housing, food, edu).
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61988785
Prince Charles had ?very emotional? first meeting with Lilibet according to ?royal source? and on another topic CH briefing praises the Sussexes for their ?financial independence? as the annual Royal Finances report on RF official expenditure appears.
Quote from: wannable on June 29, 2022, 04:42:54 PM
From bandwagon to bandwagon (support), from one tragedy to the next...IF she only would stick to 'projects' until something of it happens (good or bad, but stick in there, try/work for it...like i.e. William with Brit homelessness.
Or perhaps Harry?s work with military vets, eh, but we won?t mention that! And Meghan was known for working for and speaking about disadvantaged women?s issues long before she joined the BRF. At the time she became engaged she was described by the British media as a ?feminist and an activist?.
Quote from: Curryong on July 01, 2022, 01:05:54 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61988785
Prince Charles had ?very emotional? first meeting with Lilibet according to ?royal source? and on another topic CH briefing praises the Sussexes for their ?financial independence? as the annual Royal Finances report on RF official expenditure appears.
I can imagine that it was a very emotional time for grandfather Charles and step-grandmother Camilla to reunite with his grandson Archie and meet little Lilibet for the first time. :wub:
I think Charles has learned from his past mistakes with both sons now on how to be a better parent and a wonderful grandfather, seeing him with Louis made me laugh silly...Louis has a strong attachment to his grandfather and that is given back by Charles. And I am sure that Charles was thrilled to meet both Harry's children and I sure hope he learned something positive during that time together instead of being resentful like he has been.
I've read a couple of stories that the Sussex family traveled to the popular resort town of Jackson Hole, Wyoming for the Independence Day Weekend. It's very close to Yellowstone National Park. :happyusa:
https://www.visitjacksonhole.com/
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry spotted in Wyoming with Archie | Woman & Home | (https://www.womanandhome.com/us/life/royal-news/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-spotted-at-4th-july-parade-in-wyoming-harry-and-archie-are-so-cute/)
QuoteAn eagle-eyed fan took to Instagram to share that they'd spotted the couple out and about with little Archie. The Instagram post read, "Funny story...we are in Jackson Hole WY at their 4th July Parade. The big tough guy told us twice that he was saving seats for his family. I'm ok already, do you want us to move? (which of course we wouldn't do) He said Oh No, I just want you to know."
"I thought well it must be the royal family (very sarcastic thinking)! A minute later Prince Harry and Meghan Markle walk up with Little Archie! I thought well dang it is the royal family. The big guy is the body guard. Megan is gorgeous and Harry and Archie are so cute."
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on June 27, 2022, 09:35:15 PM
Harry and Meghan are seen pulling into Oprah's Montecito home over the weekend | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10958157/Harry-Meghan-seen-pulling-Oprahs-Montecito-home-weekend.html)
She wasn't home, so who did they visit? Oprah is in Nashville since June 2022, her dad passed away 2 days ago, was asked about her father and said she was with him since last month. Info disclosed today by herself.
Oprah detailed her June and July whereabouts; North Carolina to Nashville (all in instagram). Today she came back home/California with her pet dog in a private jet.
Quote from: wannable on July 16, 2022, 11:10:27 PM
Oprah detailed her June and July whereabouts; North Carolina to Nashville (all in instagram). Today she came back home/California with her pet dog in a private jet.
So? Meghan and Harry are probably often at Oprah?s Montecito home whether Oprah?s there or not. They may well use some of the rooms as interview rooms for projects, watch a movie in the screening room, enjoy the gardens etc.
The Queen 'has invited Harry, Meghan and their children to Balmoral this summer as she extends an olive branch to the Sussexes... but other members of the Royal Family won't be around'
The Queen has reportedly invited Prince Harry and Meghan Markle and their family to spend time at Balmoral Castle this summer.
According to Neil Sean, NBC, Prince Harry changed his phone number and none of the senior royals have the new one.
Quote from: Curryong on July 16, 2022, 11:16:47 PM
So? Meghan and Harry are probably often at Oprah?s Montecito home whether Oprah?s there or not. They may well use some of the rooms as interview rooms for projects, watch a movie in the screening room, enjoy the gardens etc.
Why would Harry and Meghan to use Oprah's home when she is not there? They have a 14 bathroom room home to have movies in, and gardens that are eminence with their chickens no less, their children have a wonderful play ground, so why go anywhere when you have your own piece of heaven? If they do that then they sure do not appreciate what they have....all at the expense of a huge inheritance and maybe bank of dad.
Quote from: wannable on July 24, 2022, 06:53:18 PM
According to Neil Sean, NBC, Prince Harry changed his phone number and none of the senior royals have the new one.
LOL........that is so childish and immature ......maybe they finally get the picture that the royal family is way pisssssssssssssssssssss************* off at them as they should be. Both *Betrayed* their family on TV in front of the entire world......I think that is a damm good reason to be very angry and furious.
Quote from: wannable on July 16, 2022, 11:10:27 PM
Oprah detailed her June and July whereabouts; North Carolina to Nashville (all in instagram). Today she came back home/California with her pet dog in a private jet.
That is just so stupid to tell the world where your going to be anytime, just a sign of an insecure person who needs applause/love/whatever from strangers..... social media has created monsters who can not find life without approval by people they do not even know.....
Quote from: wannable on July 24, 2022, 06:53:18 PM
According to Neil Sean, NBC, Prince Harry changed his phone number and none of the senior royals have the new one.
I truly hope that is not a true story. Otherwise they are dependent on having to contact a third party ie British Consulate in Los Angeles or Santa Barbara Co. Sheriff to relay emergency news such as when the DoE passed away.
I also would like to think it is not true yet just look at the decisions Harry keeps making all the time, he does NOT think before speaking or doing anything any more, impulsiveness runs his life it seems like. He is a very angry man and mostly at the royal family it seems like for whatever reasons he has. Moving across an ocean to a new country with a wife and child does not bring peace, happiness or being content, that all has to come from within our own heart and soul and by the choices we make for our lives. Harry has not found that yet I believe all my his decisions and words all of which as I have said have consequences. He has yet to learn that nor really suffered those consequences of his actions and when he does someday then it will be very hard on him, very very hard when he hits bottom.
Quote from: Nightowl on July 24, 2022, 08:18:56 PM
Why would Harry and Meghan to use Oprah's home when she is not there? They have a 14 bathroom room home to have movies in, and gardens that are eminence with their chickens no less, their children have a wonderful play ground, so why go anywhere when you have your own piece of heaven? If they do that then they sure do not appreciate what they have....all at the expense of a huge inheritance and maybe bank of dad.
None of which cost Oprah anything or costs any taxpayers in the US a penny. While the Cambridges in Britain have Anmer Hall, huge house, huge gardens, huge estate, an enormous apartment with two kitchens and god knows how many bathrooms at KP in London and will be moving into Adelaide Cottage at the end of summer. That is three homes, courtesy of Grannie, the British taxpayer and the bank of dad. Not to mention a cottage on the Balmoral estate they use sometimes.
The knowledge of these three homes when many ordinary people can?t afford one is hardly likely to go down well with the British taxpayer, when the family move into AC in a couple of months. There?s already been a backlash about it and many would be entitled to ask ?What does this extremely wealthy couple (by an enormous inheritance and the bank of Dad and Grannie) want with three homes when Anmer and KP will be lying idle for months but will still need ongoing repairs and maintenance.??
Quote from: Nightowl on July 25, 2022, 09:37:31 AM
I also would like to think it is not true yet just look at the decisions Harry keeps making all the time, he does NOT think before speaking or doing anything any more, impulsiveness runs his life it seems like. He is a very angry man and mostly at the royal family it seems like for whatever reasons he has. Moving across an ocean to a new country with a wife and child does not bring peace, happiness or being content, that all has to come from within our own heart and soul and by the choices we make for our lives. Harry has not found that yet I believe all my his decisions and words all of which as I have said have consequences. He has yet to learn that nor really suffered those consequences of his actions and when he does someday then it will be very hard on him, very very hard when he hits bottom.
I sadly have to agree with you about Prince Harry's emotional state.
Oprah would need to confirm their acquaintance as a token, but so far when asked directly she denied being home and much less in the state of California. She went further to declare a weird tribute to her father, thanking her dad and God that she was raised by him rather than her Mom, if not she wouldn?t be who she is.
Quote from: wannable on July 24, 2022, 06:38:17 PM
The Queen 'has invited Harry, Meghan and their children to Balmoral this summer as she extends an olive branch to the Sussexes... but other members of the Royal Family won't be around'
The Queen has reportedly invited Prince Harry and Meghan Markle and their family to spend time at Balmoral Castle this summer.
Neil Sean says they will go if Harry wins the home office police protection case.
Richard Eden says they aren?t going
Quote from: Curryong on July 26, 2022, 05:03:25 AM
None of which cost Oprah anything or costs any taxpayers in the US a penny. While the Cambridges in Britain have Anmer Hall, huge house, huge gardens, huge estate, an enormous apartment with two kitchens and god knows how many bathrooms at KP in London and will be moving into Adelaide Cottage at the end of summer. That is three homes, courtesy of Grannie, the British taxpayer and the bank of dad. Not to mention a cottage on the Balmoral estate they use sometimes.
The knowledge of these three homes when many ordinary people can?t afford one is hardly likely to go down well with the British taxpayer, when the family move into AC in a couple of months. There?s already been a backlash about it and many would be entitled to ask ?What does this extremely wealthy couple (by an enormous inheritance and the bank of Dad and Grannie) want with three homes when Anmer and KP will be lying idle for months but will still need ongoing repairs and maintenance.??
The crown estate castles, palaces, including Sandringham and Balmoral where royals gravitate have security in place since ages ago. The Sovereign Grant are moneys from the yearly earnings of the crown estates revenue.
The amount of the Sovereign Grant is equal to 15% of the income account net surplus of the Crown Estate for the financial year that began two years previously.
Harry and Meghan's fears for their 'hipster' chickens after warnings about a giant mountain lion prowling close to their $14m Montecito mansion
The couple were ordered to lock down their $14.6million mansion in Montecito
They were also told their flock of chickens could be an easy target for the beast
The mountain lion was caught on a homeowner's security video prowling nearby
The clip showed the animal skulking down a homeowner's driveway and past car
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/09/20/61227563-11096433-image-a-179_1660073144279.jpg)
My daughter graduated from UC Santa Barbara where on occasion the students and faculty/staff would receive a warning that a cougar/mountain lion had been seen on CC cameras prowling around the campus. The Sussexes and other residents of Montecitio,CA live in the foothills so it's not surprising that someone's camera picked up a prowling predator.
I hope the authority do the right thing with a tranquilizer dart and also take care of it. Too many incidents around the world with hungry wild animals approaching residential areas.
In another note, a happy one El Jefe, the Jaguar that use to live in the Arizona desert, last seen 8 years ago, was seen today again crossing the borders Mexico/USA.
The Associated Press
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They call him "El Jefe," he is at least 12 years old and his crossing of the heavily guarded U.S.-Mexico border has sparked celebrations on both sides.
Hopefully the animal won't be harmed and all residents in the area, including pets, will be safe. They can be quite big, unlike the bobcats we have where I live.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry: Royal wedding was more popular than Princess Diana's | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/1653995/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-wedding-princess-diana-viewing-figures-popularity)
A lot of that was due to the Internet and streaming services of course. However, ?Not only is it the most watched royal wedding of all time, but it was also actually the third most watched event in history. The Betway Digital PR team have conducted some research into the most watched TV events in human history and found that two royal weddings made it into the top 10 most watched events.?
? Even though Charles and Diana's wedding was back in the 1980s, it is still one of the most watched live streamed events the world has seen with a total of 750 million viewers tuning in to watch the fairy tail wedding.
However, 37 years later, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's wedding was watched by a whopping 1.9 billion people, making it the third most watched event in history.
This meant that it was watched by 25 percent of the global population.?
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on August 10, 2022, 01:57:05 AM
Hopefully the animal won't be harmed and all residents in the area, including pets, will be safe. They can be quite big, unlike the bobcats we have where I live.
I totally agree and really hope the people in that area don't harm that cat, after all we humans are taking away the land that so many animals need to survive on. Even mountains are being filled with mega homes and condos all searching for green space and where does that leave the 4 legged animal now? So they come into the area where the houses looking for food which is normal for them. We need to give some of that land back to the animal kingdom for without them we humans can not survive either.
^ In 3 years booed. The Sussexes are a perfect study of what not to do, the everlasting effect of their really bad behavior .
How and what can they do so people forget they 🤥
The problem with lying is the person has to constantly remember about it to keep up versus living God honest truth, one is relaxed and truly free.
They squandered the huge privilege of royalty and the goodwill of the masses. MM finds herself now voted in the USA within the 25 most H people. Can?t even write the word here because it?s forbidden, so the link would break.
Quote from: wannable on August 12, 2022, 01:10:33 PM
^ In 3 years booed. The Sussexes are a perfect study of what not to do, the everlasting effect of their really bad behavior .
How and what can they do so people forget they 🤥
The problem with lying is the person has to constantly remember about it to keep up versus living God honest truth, one is relaxed and truly free.
They squandered the huge privilege of royalty and the goodwill of the masses. MM finds herself now voted in the USA within the 25 most H people. Can?t even write the word here because it?s forbidden, so the link would break.
You?re right about that,
@wannableMeghan can vote in American because she is American born but Harry don?t because he born in UK its laws
Quote from: wannable on August 12, 2022, 01:10:33 PM
^ In 3 years booed. The Sussexes are a perfect study of what not to do, the everlasting effect of their really bad behavior .
How and what can they do so people forget they 🤥
The problem with lying is the person has to constantly remember about it to keep up versus living God honest truth, one is relaxed and truly free.
They squandered the huge privilege of royalty and the goodwill of the masses. MM finds herself now voted in the USA within the 25 most H people. Can?t even write the word here because it?s forbidden, so the link would break.
Telling the truth even when it hurts is one of the most important parts of a person's character. I learned that the hard way and now have no problems telling the truth even if it hurts me and has. I really don't get Meghan, she won the gold Welsh ring and destroyed all that went with it for what........MONEY and more money and fame in LaLa Land of fake people (Hollywood). This is NOT in my opinion (which does not mean anything to anyone but me), going to turn out good for them ever. Karma has a way of biting back unseen and when it hits, then they will realize their mistakes. Harry has shown how weak and insecure he really is.....his anger at the world and the royal family and HM of all people is destroying the young man I used to admire.....
Quote from: Nightowl on August 12, 2022, 04:21:02 PM
Telling the truth even when it hurts is one of the most important parts of a person's character. I learned that the hard way and now have no problems telling the truth even if it hurts me and has. I really don't get Meghan, she won the gold Welsh ring and destroyed all that went with it for what........MONEY and more money and fame in LaLa Land of fake people (Hollywood). This is NOT in my opinion (which does not mean anything to anyone but me), going to turn out good for them ever. Karma has a way of biting back unseen and when it hits, then they will realize their mistakes. Harry has shown how weak and insecure he really is.....his anger at the world and the royal family and HM of all people is destroying the young man I used to admire.....
I'm not sure they will realize heir mistakes. They have not been good at accepting responsibility when it is indicated. But maybe I'll be proved wrong.
The thing is that both Harry and Meghan *feed* off each other as do the people they employ do the same for and with them. I believe they live in their minds in a very tiny world with only them as the inhabitants s and everything they do must be about them and how they want everyone and everything around them to be what they want. Harry from what I have seen about him throughout his life as never accepted responsibility for anything he has ever done and Meghan, well she is an actress and knows the way to play people.....we all see it in her smile that is frozen in time when with the royal family. What I don't get is this woman *married into this family* and she helps create this hell for her husband against the family she just married into.........talk about arrogance and ego out of control is unbelievable. I just look at it like they certainly are showing the world just the kind of people they are and are not.....
I guess I am in the low class of people for money and titles just never meant much to me and that has gotten me into more trouble than ever. Being an ole Irish lady even in today's world, I have and still at times experience racism and snobbery at my door and it still affirms to me that money does not buy class nor dignity nor graciousness so just turn your back to that and walk away head held high is my motto. The Sussex's lack class and dignity and graciousness in how they treat first of all their families and that says a lot about them first of all.
^ Thinking in the grand scale, their actual lifestyle and living standards, I wish them well. Seeing things in perspective (it's inevitable when seeing things in the grand scale, planning, etc) they both will need to make shedloads of money to maintain their actual lifestyle.
Prince Harry is reportedly in Mozambique.
https://twitter.com/emorier/status/1559975681240535041?cxt=HHwWgsC4qb7nkqYrAAAA
QuotePrince Harry is in Vilankulos
My guess he?s there on behalf of Halo, the landmine charity of which he is patron. Harry visits Mozambique every few years (bar the Covid years) to take a look at what Halo have achieved. He may also be taking a look at a new public swimming pool the Sussexes donated money to in honour of Archie?s birthday in 2019.
Quote from: Curryong on August 18, 2022, 12:25:54 AM
My guess he?s there on behalf of Halo, the landmine charity of which he is patron. Harry visits Mozambique every few years (bar the Covid years) to take a look at what Halo have achieved. He may also be taking a look at a new public swimming pool the Sussexes donated money to in honour of Archie?s birthday in 2019.
Have pictures yet
Clubmozambique.com has pictures.
He was with friends for 3 days in the tourist areas.
The Duke of Sussex spent three days in Vilankulo recently.
Prince Harry stayed at the Vilanculos Beach Lodge, one of the best in Vilankulo, where he was seen in conversation with Yassin Amuji, the President of the Tourism Association in the district.
During his three-day stay, the Prince reportedly explored the area in the company of friends, travelling to some of the many tourism destinations there.
?We were unable to determine for sure the real purpose of this brief stay in Vilankulo, one of the best tourist destinations in Africa and in the world, but we have learned from anonymous sources that Prince Harry often visits this tourist spot?.
When contacted, the management of Vilanculos Beach Lodge refused to provide any details, as it must protect the privacy and security of its guests.
Club website or try social media to see the pictures of Harry at the beach, they aren't official but amateur pics, hence the media hasn't reported on the visit. It's very likely a private holiday with a bit of Travalyst research, tourism.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g479219-d12239197-Reviews-Vilanculos_Beach_Lodge-Vilanculos_Inhambane_Province.html
Tripadvisor gives the Vilanculos beach lodge a 4.5 star rating. The place looks like a great place to vacation. There's beach and jungle.
I hope that Prince Harry and his friends enjoyed his trip to the Viankulo Beach Lodge.
Prince Harry makes surprise three-day solo visit to Mozambique | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11123709/Prince-Harry-makes-surprise-three-day-solo-visit-Mozambique.html)
Prince Harry Makes Surprise Visit to Africa as President of African Parks (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-makes-surprise-visit-africa-welcome-us-officials/)
Prince Harry spotted at luxury holiday resort as Duke prepares for tense royal reunion | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1657127/Prince-Harry-news-Duke-Sussex-Mozambique-Vilankulo-Vilanculos-Beach-Lodge-latest-pictures)
Prince Harry takes secret trip without Meghan Markle or children ahead of UK visit - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-harry-takes-secret-trip-27774203)
Prince Harry flies 20,000 miles in surprise visit to Mozambique before being spotted at luxury beach lodge | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/19549649/prince-harry-mozambique-luxury-beach-lodge/)
This is the kind of thing he is so good at - being an ambassador, connecting, welcoming and all-around people person, especially effective for a cause close to his heart. A good use of his talents. I only hope he doesn't lecture because he will be preaching to the choir, and I don't think they'd like that.
Okay this story gets a big side eye from me as it seems far too early to have a "vow renewal." Typically that's something that is saved for milestone anniversaries ie: silver or gold.
MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/lilibet-and-archie-to-be-given-special-roles-in-meghan-and-harrys-upcoming-ceremony/ar-AA10N674?ocid=UE01DHP&li=AAnZ9Ug)
QuoteMeghan Markle and Prince Harry are planning to renew their vows in a ceremony in America, an insider has claimed. The source said the couple have been hoping to hold such a ceremony ever since starting their new life in the United States but the pandemic got in the way. Meghan and Harry were also keen to hold the ceremony after the Queen's Platinum Jubilee was over, the insider said.
Quote from: TLLK on August 18, 2022, 11:03:12 PM
Okay this story gets a big side eye from me as it seems far too early to have a "vow renewal." Typically that's something that is saved for milestone anniversaries ie: silver or gold.
MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/lilibet-and-archie-to-be-given-special-roles-in-meghan-and-harrys-upcoming-ceremony/ar-AA10N674?ocid=UE01DHP&li=AAnZ9Ug)
I doubt it very much as well. IF this story has any legs at all and they are looking for any sort of venue anywhere it?s more likely to be for Lili?s christening.
Prince Harry spotted at luxury holiday resort as Duke prepares for tense royal reunion | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1657127/Prince-Harry-news-Duke-Sussex-Mozambique-Vilankulo-Vilanculos-Beach-Lodge-latest-pictures)
A spokesperson for Harry said his visit was in his role as president of conservation NGO African Parks.
?They added that the Duke welcomed and co-hosted a group of US officials, conservationists, and philanthropists to tour protected wildlife and nature areas.
Harry is not thought to have been joined by his wife for the trip to the African nation.
According to the Instagram account @moz_paparazzi, he viewed tourist attractions with friends and spoke with the President of the Tourism Association in the area Yassin Amuji during his visit.?
Well, I was wrong about the charity in my previous post lol, but it certainly wasn?t a holiday trip. He had the protected wildlife and Parks of Africa in mind, and I?m sure Harry did an excellent job in hosting US philanthropists and conservationists around.
Wow!
@wannable-Thank you for the link to the resort's photos. No matter which of his Africa focused patronages was his reason for visiting, Harry certainly had incredible accommodations there.
IMO this is the first time in a very long time he looks dancing happy eyes to mouth! Africa is Harry, Harry is Africa. I only wish he could live there, he seems to be the happiest when in that continent.
Can he burn that old grey t-shirt?!
Quote from: wannable on August 20, 2022, 03:01:00 PM
IMO this is the first time in a very long time he looks dancing happy eyes to mouth! Africa is Harry, Harry is Africa. I only wish he could live there, he seems to be the happiest when in that continent.
Can he burn that old grey t-shirt?!
But also, the cause is one he truly embraces, and he loves connecting to people.
Quote from: TLLK on August 18, 2022, 11:03:12 PM
Okay this story gets a big side eye from me as it seems far too early to have a "vow renewal." Typically that's something that is saved for milestone anniversaries ie: silver or gold.
MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/lilibet-and-archie-to-be-given-special-roles-in-meghan-and-harrys-upcoming-ceremony/ar-AA10N674?ocid=UE01DHP&li=AAnZ9Ug)
It might be true. The couple isn't only royal watchers/royal reporting links. To keep up with their drama, one has to read the hollywood reporters, it is where this news was born, read what Sunshine Sach put's out there and read royal reporters.
Three fronts! They are toast literally.
Hollywood reporting allegedly/rumors usually pan out to be true, that snake infested school yard has too many ears, mouths that run to the hollywood media reporters.
What my family member who works for one of the biggest entertainment industry operator says it the couple at this point in time LOST the power of production freedom with Netflix, the position has been inverted and the streaming service giant is now in control. The pressure includes demanding all sorts of do this do that, film it or else the other 70% of the moneys is a no you won't receive it.
The Pearl rumor came out to be true. I read it, LA hollywierd news, posted months ago about people defecting, the slowness of it. A couple of months after posting the comment, it happened.
Spotify is allegedly done, finished. They have the Markle tapes and it is shelved for now. When shelved, the entertainment industry will use it if she rises or a downfall, either situation gets a tuning to the podcasting service.
Meghan Markle rocks 'I voted' sticker as she shares rare new picture | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20221108156442/meghan-markle-new-picture-i-voted-midterm-elections-2022/)
QuoteThe Duchess of Sussex has called on her fellow Americans to get out and vote, sharing that she had also voted on Tuesday November 8.
"Today is Election Day in the US! Time to get out and vote. Text ARCHEWELL to 26797 to find your polling location and make sure you are ready to vote," Meghan wrote on the Archewell website, alongside a picture of herself in a cream jumper with an 'I voted' sticker placed on her chest, and blue rain jacket.
I would like to add that mail in ballots are also accepted as long as they're postmarked for Nov. 8, 2022. These ballots can also be dropped off at designated drop off locations too. All Californians who are registered to vote, receive mail in ballots. We're experiencing the first real winter storm of the season, so this is an option if voters do not wish to wait in line.
I?m glad that Meghan has urged her fellow Americans to get out and vote, perform their civic duty. I have a feeling that these mid terms are going to be desperately important, especially in defending women?s abortion rights and gay freedoms so dearly won. I just don?t want to see the country swing to the right in Trump triumphalism even before 2024.
As a citizen of a country where compulsory voting is required I?m facing another dilemma altogether. The Victorian State election is coming up in a couple of weeks. I?m a Labor supporter and have been all my life but I simply cannot vote for this incompetent and complacent Labor Govt headed by a Premier who is mired in corruption. No less than four different Inquiries into his methods are ongoing at the moment and I?m mystified as to why he?s personally so popular.
On the other hand the Liberal Opposition is blundering, inexperienced and weak. So I?m between a rock and a hard place here. I?m tempted to go to the booth and write a protest on my ballot paper, making it ineligible, difficult as I am very keen on exercising my democratic rights.
Quote from: Curryong on November 08, 2022, 08:43:58 PM
I?m glad that Meghan has urged her fellow Americans to get out and vote, perform their civic duty. I have a feeling that these mid terms are going to be desperately important, especially in defending women?s abortion rights and gay freedoms so dearly won. I just don?t want to see the country swing to the right in Trump triumphalism even before 2024.
As a citizen of a country where compulsory voting is required I?m facing another dilemma altogether. The Victorian State election is coming up in a couple of weeks. I?m a Labor supporter and have been all my life but I simply cannot vote for this incompetent and complacent Labor Govt headed by a Premier who is mired in corruption. No less than four different Inquiries into his methods are ongoing at the moment and I?m mystified as to why he?s personally so popular.
On the other hand the Liberal Opposition is blundering, inexperienced and weak. So I?m between a rock and a hard place here. I?m tempted to go to the booth and write a protest on my ballot paper, making it ineligible, difficult as I am very keen on exercising my democratic rights.
I was sorry to read in your post how disillusioned you are, though I know that ALL governments, local up to national, have some measure of corruption. It all sounds so familiar to what we are experiencing here. It bothers me so much - especially the biased and unethical media. I wish you well and hope things will go better for you all in "Oz".
I do have to note that when I am heading to the polls, which I did just a few hours ago, I always feel better about things. No matter how bad things get I never get over the feeling of pride and sense that everything will be ok when I arrive at the polling place in my town. We are a diverse town and people of all ages, all dressed differently, and all looking different from each other, are walking into or leaving the building. They are all taking time out of their day to do their important civic duty and I am happy to be one of them. I hear your concerns for us in America, but I can assure you that American women, just as so many around the world, will not ever give up one iota of the progress they've made. I have two grown daughters and I see how free they are of that traditional old boy system, even though there is still a long way to go. And as for abortion, more than 76% of Americans believe in the right to choose. The truth is that Americans were lazy after Roe v. Wade triumphed...we had decades in which to generate an amendment to protect our right to choose and we failed. Roe v. Wade was not constitutional, and it was just a matter of time before it was overruled. I hope we will see some progress now instead of just hysteria and blaming it on everyone else. Always interested in Australia - I admire it so much. In a free country sometimes the bad guys triumph, but if people can freely go to the polls and vote against the negative things that they see, the good will prevail.
Thank you for your good wishes for us in Oz, Princess Cassandra. Our Premier Andrews leaves me cross and frustrated rather than sad really, especially as he remains popular though perhaps less so than earlier this year, so perhaps the corruption Inquiries have done something to dent the Teflon image. Corruption hasn?t been a big thing here in Oz a lot of the time, but I have decided to not vote for my local MP as he is as complacent as the rest. As, like you, I am usually very happy at living in a democratic society, voting this time will give me no pleasure. My husband and son are voting Liberal for the first time in their lives but I just can?t.
I have noted the more liberal opinions on gay rights and abortion among the ordinary population in the US, UK, Western Europe, Aus and NZ over the last twenty years or so and that gives me great hope for Millennials and Gen Z?s. It?s just that sometimes politicians don?t listen to their electorates. (BTW abortion rights and universal health care are not challenged here, thank Goodness.)
The repeal of Roe vs Wade was a great shock to me, watching from afar, as is the current make-up of the US Supreme Court, and the eagerness of certain States to follow the recent Supreme Court?s direction. I feel for those women who are now forced to travel to other States to access a Family Planning Clinic. It must be heartbreaking. And I agree, people in general are lazy about defending hard won rights. In our house in Oz we, and no doubt people all over the world we are following the US mid term election results with great interest.
The Sussexes attended Sir Elton John's last concert in Los Angeles last night. They shared a short video.
https://twitter.com/hrrysgreysuit/status/1594596664538722304?s=61&t=ppQEmtUBPvW517vWSlH9ig
Discussion of anything related to any of the Sussexes' televised interviews should be continued in this thread linked below. Further off topic posts will be removed.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex interviews, TV and other media events Part 3 (http://www.royalinsight.net/forum/index.php?topic=95348.0)
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Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's 'paper-free' 'holiday season' card does NOT mention Christmas | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11548691/Meghan-Prince-Harrys-sparkling-paper-free-holiday-season-card-does-NOT-mention-Christmas.html)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Share Holiday Card (https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-2022-holiday-card/)
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle release Christmas card hours after Netflix documentary | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20221217159823/harry-and-meghan-2022-christmas-card/)
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry share 'joyful' Christmas card but no Archie or Lilibet | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1710623/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Christmas-Archie-Lilibet-Doria-Ragland-ont)
Harry and Meghan share 'joyful' Christmas card after stinging Netflix royal documentary - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-harry-meghan-share-joyful-28754311)
Harry & Meghan release 'holiday season' card featuring pic of couple at awards bash - but it FAILS to mention Christmas | The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/20784338/harry-meghan-holiday-season-card-christmas/)
No pictures of Archie and Lilibet due security reasons and protect but without permission from Harry and Meghan
If there had been a family portrait with the two Sussex children released for Xmas the anti Sussex brigade would have been screaming ?They showed their kids on the Netflix documentary, now they?re on their Christmas Card. So they?re commercialising their family AGAIN.?
The joyful holiday digital card is free.
100 million USD requires a lot of giving. It is a hefty price to pay.
I expect that the couple have two cards for the holidays. The Archewell one is for their business. They likely have a family one that is just for close friends and family.
Quote from: wannable on December 17, 2022, 01:39:06 AM
The joyful holiday digital card is free.
100 million USD requires a lot of giving. It is a hefty price to pay.
Yes
Quote from: TLLK on December 17, 2022, 01:53:34 AM
I expect that the couple have two cards for the holidays. The Archewell one is for their business. They likely have a family one that is just for close friends and family.
Harry and Meghan didn?t mention about children
In the Xmas greeting the Sussexes stated ?from our family to yours?. ?Family? includes one?s (minor) children.
Quote from: wannable on December 17, 2022, 01:39:06 AM
The joyful holiday digital card is free.
100 million USD requires a lot of giving. It is a hefty price to pay.
BTW, Neil Sean (contributor to FOX and sister mainstream media by state in the USA) said last night that Netflix is sitting on a lot of unedited footage, they can easily and are thinking of making another 6 hour episodes to ''earn back'' the moneys they paid the Sussexes. It will all depend in how much money Netflix makes back to May 2023 (Coronation) with the first season/6 episodes, if Netflix doesn't earn back the moneys, they allegedly will go ahead to juice it for a second season, the Sussexes signed a contract, they wouldn't be able to stop Netflix IF they go ahead.
My above comment is an educated guess, I mean, for those who have worked as an employee ''one has to deliver to the company what one is paid'' if not, usually one is made redundant. The Neil Sean comment, I just watched it today with morning coffee :orchid:
Quote from: Curryong on December 17, 2022, 02:40:35 AM
In the Xmas greeting the Sussexes stated ?from our family to yours?. ?Family? includes one?s (minor) children.
Harry and Meghan not mention about children in Christmas portraits due security reasons
It's been a while but hello everyone!
For the most recent topic, it makes sense. If people watched the documentary, then they got plenty of seeing Archie and Lili. So for the Xmas card, just a simple photo and framing as it as more of an professional thing. Which also makes sense since now Archewell is going in-house.
Friends and family probs got a different Xmas card.
I don't think they're not mentioning the kids due to security reasons, they just chose not to this year.
Here's a rather odd comparison between Denmark's Crown Princess Mary and the UK's Duchess of Sussex. :blink:
Royals: Meghan Markle could learn lessons from Princess Mary of Denmark | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11560597/Royals-Meghan-Markle-learn-lessons-Princess-Mary-Denmark.html#comments)
Similarities: Both are slim, attractive, brunette, university educated women from English speaking nations who left behind their careers, families, friends and moved to a new adopted nation then married into their respective royal families. :thumbsup:
BIG difference: Mary married the direct heir to the throne and is the future Queen Consort. Meghan married the younger son and was expected to play a supporting role to the current and future monarch(s).
IMVHO the better comparison should have been between the Duchess of Sussex and Denmark's Princess Marie who is married to QMI's younger son, Prince Joachim. Marie like Meghan also is slim, attractive, brunette, university educated woman who left behind her career, family, friends and moved to a new adopted nation and married into the royal family. Unlike Meghan though, she did have to learn another language.
Now if they wanted to compare the Duchess of Sussex with other biracial women who married younger sons in European royal/princely families, there's also Denmark's Countess Alexandra fka Princess Alexandra who was previously married to Prince Joachim. There's also Lichtenstein's Princess Angela who is married to Prince Maximilian.
Quote from: sara8150 on December 17, 2022, 02:36:15 AM
Harry and Meghan didn?t mention about children
That's correct because the card from Archewell is likely for business associates and not family/friends.
Meghan Markle was seen in new clothes worth ?79,000 in 2022 | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10818001/Meghan-Markle-seen-new-clothes-worth-79-000-2022.html)
What does the cost of Meghan?s wardrobe have to do with Fail journalists, or indeed with anyone in the UK, as was pointed out in the comments? Neither she nor Harry take one penny from the taxpayers of Britain, nor are they working royals any more. So what possibly could be the motive of this rag for detailing all the items of clothing on her engagements? Wouldn?t be because they hopefully could then crow at all the extravagance, as compared to Kate, could it? Well sadly for them, no, because Kate?s wardrobe costs soared in 2022. To whip up some more hatred for her, because in spite of stepping away from Britain and royal duties (which they bang on about in every article to do with the Sussexes) she has the temerity to enjoy herself and wear some nice designer clothes at the same time? Almost certainly, because clickbait is what drives these tabloids.
And the gratuitous sneers accompanying the cost totals in the article are typical of this rag. How does she pay for these things, she must, hint hint, be taking freebies or doing deals with designers.
Again, what does it have to do with tabloid journalists or commentators or the British public how Meghan dresses herself or what this couple spend in their private lives. It?s their money, they don?t live in Britain, they are private citizens, so tabloids minding their own business might be a great idea in future. However, I?m not holding my breath!
A space filler, Harriet needed her salary
Anyway, 79K is nothing considering a full year 2022 mostly ensconsed at Montecito!
^ ETA, thinking about it a bit longer, Probably 5 years worth of commoner clothing. I've really turned into a Marie Kondo giving away/blessings in return (comment I mentioned a few days ago). But understandably, MM has a life standard that she (and Harry) would like to keep. Once you live a certain lifestyle it is hard for the psych to lower that standard.
I 'used' to dress very very power house (I'm giving away half of that too before moving, every 5 years approx), post pandemic, I started to dress more pant suits with low to mid ''rubber' heals/bike to the office, at least 2/5 days a weeks. It was easy to mentally prepare for this, 2 years of track pants, almost commando with a dressy shirt for zooms calls and flip flop around the house, curfew dog walks of 20 min/1 km circumference around the house premises, if caught outside that 1KM, well the police ticket can be significant to hurt 'serious pocket money' which otherwise would be used for something fun, VIP recliner chair at movie theatre eating sushi type of expense.
The Sussex family along with all of their Montecito neighbors have been issued an evacuation order by the County of Santa Barbara due to the incoming storm. The land is still unstable from the 2017 wildfires burning away much of the vegetation and that has not completely grown back. The Montecito Community had to be evacuated during the winter storm season six years ago. Good luck to all of the residents in SB Co. who are having to evacuate.
https://twitter.com/countyofsb/status/1612556977464393734?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
QuoteMMEDIATE EVACUATION ORDER issued to the ENTIRE MONTECITO COMMUNITY. Includes all 15 zones of the Montecito Community, all Toro Canyon & Padaro Lane residents in the Carpinteria-Summerland Fire Protection District & all residents of Sycamore Canyon in the City of SB and Montecito
I recall their house suffered a mudslide years ago, original American owner. A lot of money was reinvested to divert any future mudslides, original American owner in order to sell it to the Russian. The wife of the original owner couldn't live there any longer after the experience.
I think the information goes here but Jeremy Clarkson partnership with Amazon has ended and he posted another non-apology on instagram.
Apparently, he did email Prince Harry to apologies on the 25th of December.
Which, is wrong on so many levels as it was Meghan who was attacked via his paper. The truly sad part was that in his instagram apology, he said he apologized to both people.
https://twitter.com/_PeterHunt/status/1615063072032362501
^ Response from their team.
He apologized and yet they didn't accept. It's a good warning.
In other news, the 'fake' summit suggested by The Times has been confirmed to come from Montecito camp. IOW, Roya Nikkhah still has a window of 'faith' in the couple.
Well, he didn't give an actual apology. He tried to play it off.
He also didn't give the so called apology to the actual person he used violence words against, but her husband. Who isn't named Meghan. So it was a non-apology. He said he did it in a rush (meaning the article) but this wasn't the first nasty thing he wrote, so it's not real. To accept an apology, you have to actually think the people giving it, mean it. Not even I believe Clarkson so I doubt they would or a lot of people (not saying all) would either.
I don't have much to say about the Summit other than, it's more likely that it came from the Royals. That's who Roya bats for. There's no confirmation that it came from the Sussex's. Harry saying he wanted to talk, has already come from his mouth without the royal reporter playing middle man. She can keep her faith and take it back to the "palace sources" "royal insiders" "senior aides" and "friends of the royals"
In the article that came out, it talks about speaking to Harry alone and then bringing the wives in. Harry has made it clear that he found it appalling that they'd have the first summit without Meghan and it was her life and future being talked about. So, when another article is floated that says the summit will include Harry and Meghan as equal partners and Meghan an after-thought, because it's her life as well. That's the article I'll believe.
The 3 are nasty :sarcastic: so they can be angry gaslight or hug their drama bad behavior.
There are some RR giving out the little window of faith article for the couple. The summit idea is Sussexes.
Quote from: wannable on January 17, 2023, 01:01:51 AM
The 3 are nasty :sarcastic: so they can be angry gaslight or hug their drama bad behavior.
There are some RR giving out the little window of faith article for the couple. The summit idea is Sussexes.
That?s your opinion I guess. Any viable proof, because I very much doubt it myself for several reasons? One of them being that neither The Times nor Royah are friends of the Sussexes. At all. So why they would say the couple are anxious for a Summit with the King, Heaven only Knows. I doubt Harry has spoken to this RR for three years or more. This particular newspaper has better contacts at BP than most and almost invariably follows the Palace line re anything Sussex.
That would be so perfect.
No summit and each to their own.
Quote from: wannable on January 17, 2023, 03:11:34 AM
That would be so perfect.
No summit and each to their own.
And what if there are ideas about a summit going around King Charles?s brain (for whatever reason?) Charles sometimes doesn?t listen to the Palace Pooh Bahs, just goes ahead and does his own thing as he did with Camilla?s rehabilitation by Bollard. And that?s maybe that?s why the Times has caught a whiff of something brewing from Palace lackeys.
It is fake as I said, but I?ll bite, lawyers first conditioning and covering all angles and beyond, like a NDA forever.
Harry gets angry, more disgraceful behavior affecting himself.
Quote from: wannable on January 17, 2023, 01:01:51 AM
The 3 are nasty :sarcastic: so they can be angry gaslight or hug their drama bad behavior.
There are some RR giving out the little window of faith article for the couple. The summit idea is Sussexes.
Of course the summit idea is from the Sussex's..who else has anything to gain but only them. They have LIED continuously from one LIE to the next LIE, they threaten, they backtrack their own lies, they swear up and down they did not leak anything yet their own reality show, Harry's book is all leaks given he says it is his *truth*. His so called Truth is a LIE all the way around it. They are desperate for a response from the royal family, so that they can still be seen as royals, people might have a title like a Duke or Prince, yet that does not make them royals for you have to actually be in the family. Well news break, Harry and Meghan RAN away from the royal family, attacked the royal family, dish dirt on the royal family in front of the entire world (why don't their fans see that, oh, maybe they are blind), and then Harry had the nerve to drag his brother's children into his hell...children of all things, that is called *desperation* on Harry's part and it is not working. Attacking his brother's children is one way to never have a reconciliation with his brother. Harry is so desperate at this stage he is pitiful and showing how weak he really is. I don't hate Harry, I pity the little boy playing at being a decent man which he is not. Oh karma is so going after both of them one day!
I'll bite further, IMO based on historical facts and speculation (from Social Media personalities; historians, political journalists, long time RR's) of similarity IF Charles enters a ''summit'' with the duo, Rishi Sunak incoming (Winston Churchill) will intervene. Charles cannot put his son over the 'Constitutional Monarchy' of the United Kingdom, Charles has to think not only about his Kingship but that of William, because any decision that is 'long term' will affect the heir's 'kingdom' too. As I said, the Constitutional Monarchy IS part and parcel of the UK Government.
That is why in the last couple of years of HMQEII, she involved both Charles and William in certain aspects and points that have long term effect/affect that concerns the 'Constitutional Monarchy'.
So after making a 'quick' reference of the Constitutional Monarchy, IF it comes to a ''Sussex Summit'' scenario, the speculation is William is the sound board of Charles 'weakness' and 'feelings of guilt' with Harry, the latter is malignant narcissist using the weakness of his father. The speculation is William said the 'Constitutional Monarchy lawyers' will draw the fake summit if there's ever one, note I didn't say BRF Lawyers, but Constitutional Monarchy Lawyers. After all, William will have to deal with his brother, even after the passing away of Charles. Charles cannot have any summit without William. Both have to agree the ''terms''. Number 10 is with William. Charles cannot place the Constitutional Monarchy in ridicule, mockery worldwide.
This is all IF Charles, there are equal number of RR, political journalists who say Charles will place the Monarchy (DUTY) above all.
Charles many moons ago knows that he cannot be giving more 'fuel' to his son to blabber to the mass media.
OTHERS TAKE MANDELA?S NAME IN VAIN, NOT HARRY AND MEGHAN
I applaud the work the royal couple does inspired by my grandfather. I abhor those who exploit his legacy for personal gain.
Others Take Mandela?s Name in Vain, Not Harry & Meghan - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/nelson-mandela-name-prince-harry-meghan-markle/672762/)
Quote from: wannable on January 17, 2023, 02:57:15 PM
I'll bite further, IMO based on historical facts and speculation (from Social Media personalities; historians, political journalists, long time RR's) of similarity IF Charles enters a ''summit'' with the duo, Rishi Sunak incoming (Winston Churchill) will intervene. Charles cannot put his son over the 'Constitutional Monarchy' of the United Kingdom, Charles has to think not only about his Kingship but that of William, because any decision that is 'long term' will affect the heir's 'kingdom' too. As I said, the Constitutional Monarchy IS part and parcel of the UK Government.
That is why in the last couple of years of HMQEII, she involved both Charles and William in certain aspects and points that have long term effect/affect that concerns the 'Constitutional Monarchy'.
So after making a 'quick' reference of the Constitutional Monarchy, IF it comes to a ''Sussex Summit'' scenario, the speculation is William is the sound board of Charles 'weakness' and 'feelings of guilt' with Harry, the latter is malignant narcissist using the weakness of his father. The speculation is William said the 'Constitutional Monarchy lawyers' will draw the fake summit if there's ever one, note I didn't say BRF Lawyers, but Constitutional Monarchy Lawyers. After all, William will have to deal with his brother, even after the passing away of Charles. Charles cannot have any summit without William. Both have to agree the ''terms''. Number 10 is with William. Charles cannot place the Constitutional Monarchy in ridicule, mockery worldwide.
This is all IF Charles, there are equal number of RR, political journalists who say Charles will place the Monarchy (DUTY) above all.
Charles many moons ago knows that he cannot be giving more 'fuel' to his son to blabber to the mass media.
It seems, however, that even if the king and/or other members of the RF don't consciously provide any fuel, there is drama created over whatever they have done or not done in the past as well as the present, and there are inconsistencies and doubtful statements spewing like gunshot into the air. That's why my opinion is that there should not be a summit. They have to keep ignoring him, sad and cruel as it may seem.
What is there to talk about? Harry has shown that he's spiteful, cruel, dishonest, and generally unpleasant... and greedy for money.
Has Prince Harry ever heard Lynn Anderson sing
Rose Garden? In the song she sings "on a silver platter". Does Prince Harry want everything on a silver platter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW8iFCwYNVg
I also hope there isn't a summit.
I don't trust anyone not to on the BRF side not to go their favorite royal reporter.
Spend Archie's birthday, celebrating him and focusing on him and move on from people who don't really care and refuse to care. Only travel to the UK when needed for WellChild and etc and other times, sneak in and out with no contact with the family like they did for Invictus in April so by the time someone leaks, they'll already be out of the country.
It works out for everyone.
What are tehy needed for, Harry and Meghan? They are living in the US now, there's really no need for them to visit the UK, the charities there can manage without them and the only reason for them to com to the UK is if they sincerely want to see the RF, which IMO they dont.
Here's a list of Prince Harry's remaining UK based patronages/charities according to the British Monarchy site. (The site has stated that it is undergoing updates) However many of them are no longer listed ie: Well Child He is still noted as being their Patron. https://www.wellchild.org.uk/about-us/who-we-are/our-patron/
https://www.royal.uk/The-Duke-of-Sussex
Meghan doesn't have any listed on her page though she still is patron of Smart Works. The Duchess of Sussex - Smart Works (https://smartworks.org.uk/about-us/our-team/patrons-ambassadors/the-duchess-of-sussex-5/)
The couple can still remain in contact with their patronages and support them remotely from the U.S. The pandemic certainly showed that this can happen and they can appear via a video or link at an event.
I dont see the point other than they want to keep up a bit of contact with the UK in case they have to come back. They are not popular, they have a job to do in the US.. ie to make money, and why not concentrate on that? Im sure the charities they have kept up with, will find other patrons.
Well, they'll visit for in-person events, such as Harry at WellChild, though he didn't get to attend due to the passing of the Queen.
I'm assuming, he'd try to be there in-person this year since last year didn't happen.
If Smart Works does an event and Meghan wants to be there, it's her right but she's been helping and working remotely. If it's something like the One Young World again, she'd be there in person.
Also, Meghan had a life in the UK before the BRF, she liked to travel and she has friends in the UK.
Harry also his people in the UK, his mother is buried there and the like.
So they reasons to come back and visit and a lot of those reasons have nothing to do with the BRF. Unless it's a higher profile thing like WellChild, they should be able to get in and out without anyone batting an eye.
And if their charities wanted other patrons, they would've found them by now.
If the media and royal watchers who hate/dislike them can keep quiet and ignore them on any visits, then it won't be a problem.
Harry while maybe not liking everything about the country, has a love for it and I'm assuming wants to show their kids some things. He'll be back, I just think as long as it's a not a major event and as long as he doesn't contact or tell anyone in the BRF anything, they'll be able to get in and out without people knowing just like before the past Invictus.
They had made it to The Hauge before anyone knew they were in the UK. They managed to squash the pearl clutching of "THEY'RE GOING TO IGNORE THE QUEEN" and took the wind out of the sails of the british media all in one go.
As long as they keep their travel plans like that then there will be no issues.
The Sussexes will see their friends in the UK and can travel privately.
As for their remaining patronages, they will work it out with the organizations.
Speaking of patronages and charities, there are still the ones which numbered over 1 000 from the late Queen and DoE that will be distributed among the working BRF. I guess that there is a slim chance that the Sussexes will be approached by one or more of the organizations.
Honesly who would want them for patrons? When you kknow that they will if it suits them make up some nonsense about the people they meet, or just not really want to meet people.
The WellChild 'parents' would need to be a very significant majority to say no to the organizers of the award.
I tend to think that the organization will keep him, only because all 'white' uniforms will agree that he has a combination of troubles. Families with terminally ill children CAN relate, understand lesser worries i.e. troubled people.
Frankly I think that Harry made it clear that he did not enjoy or want to do the royal charity work, he's also made ti clear that he still found it amusing that he mocked a disabled woman..I cant imagine poeple wanting to see him turning up at any events.
That also has to be taken into consideration from chief organization head (s). He has contradicted himself as I posted a couple of weeks ago.
From being ''forced'' to work
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 20, 2023, 10:32:35 PM
I also hope there isn't a summit.
I don't trust anyone not to on the BRF side not to go their favorite royal reporter.
Spend Archie's birthday, celebrating him and focusing on him and move on from people who don't really care and refuse to care. Only travel to the UK when needed for WellChild and etc and other times, sneak in and out with no contact with the family like they did for Invictus in April so by the time someone leaks, they'll already be out of the country.
It works out for everyone.
Well that is one thing I agree with you on, yet not going to happen as Meghan has to have her face front and center...I think (could be wrong) that the last time they were here and riding in a car with all windows up for security reasons (?) Meghan on her side rolled the window down and waved to the crowds......that woman is so insecure and weak that the only way she feels good about herself is to be seen out front and center for anyone who applauds her. Yes she will go down in history in the royal family and it will not be good. At least Edward/Wallis and Andrew have kept their mouths shut and did not lie about the royal family......History always repeats itself so I see a repeat of E/W here with H/M. Meghan should be very ashamed of herself as she is no woman to look up to about being honest, gracious, kind or compassionate, everything she does is for Meghan, not the event or the people involved.
Quote from: Nightowl on January 23, 2023, 04:40:54 AM
Well that is one thing I agree with you on, yet not going to happen as Meghan has to have her face front and center...I think (could be wrong) that the last time they were here and riding in a car with all windows up for security reasons (?) Meghan on her side rolled the window down and waved to the crowds......that woman is so insecure and weak that the only way she feels good about herself is to be seen out front and center for anyone who applauds her. Yes she will go down in history in the royal family and it will not be good. At least Edward/Wallis and Andrew have kept their mouths shut and did not lie about the royal family......History always repeats itself so I see a repeat of E/W here with H/M. Meghan should be very ashamed of herself as she is no woman to look up to about being honest, gracious, kind or compassionate, everything she does is for Meghan, not the event or the people involved.
Well, I don't agree with you. People were cheering, she wanted to be nice and waved. I'm going to assume that Meghan knows more about the scale of her security and if that was okay or not more than you. The rest of what you said is just a tangent of dislike and to that I can only shrug my shoulders and move on.
I can say, "That's not going to happen." Is a moot point because it already has happened as I detailed in what you replied too.
Moving on because I don't see meaningful discussion to be had about it.
Lorren Khumalo, Harry & Meghan's nanny, did an interview on The Breakfast Club. She spoke a bit about H&M towards the end but it's really about her life and goals. It's a very interesting interview and she's very inspirational.
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Episode 4 - An International Women?s Day Women Won?t Forget (Meghan Markle, GMB and Women?s Rights) (https://www.thegalcode.com/1144901/8153242)
Also a podcast from way back that mentions Meghan during the Smart Works event.
I listened to Lorren?s interview on the Breakfast Club. Thanks for posting it. What a great interview! Her work at the Portland Hospital her first meeting with Harry who was barefoot and wearing jeans and how different Lorren found him from what she had expected, the hug etc. I hadn?t realised she had been widowed, had a grown daughter had left her Church. It was so interesting.
Quote from: Curryong on January 23, 2023, 09:51:55 PM
I listened to Lorren?s interview on the Breakfast Club. Thanks for posting it. What a great interview! Her work at the Portland Hospital her first meeting with Harry who was barefoot and wearing jeans and how different Lorren found him from what she had expected, the hug etc. I hadn?t realised she had been widowed, had a grown daughter had left her Church. It was so interesting.
Np! And yes, she's lived such a full, if not painful life at times. And the goal she has open her shop is truly admirable. She seems to be a good person and I'm glad Harry and Meghan had someone like her to look after Archie.
I really enjoy the fact that the interview was centered around her and not a lot was given to the Sussex's, she sounds like she's going to have an amazing platform going forward and I'm happy she managed to realize her dream of working for them.
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 23, 2023, 10:09:02 PM
Np! And yes, she's lived such a full, if not painful life at times. And the goal she has open her shop is truly admirable. She seems to be a good person and I'm glad Harry and Meghan had someone like her to look after Archie.
I really enjoy the fact that the interview was centered around her and not a lot was given to the Sussex's, she sounds like she's going to have an amazing platform going forward and I'm happy she managed to realize her dream of working for them.
Yes, Lorren seems to have thoroughly enjoyed her time with the Sussexes. I?m sure she?ll always have happy memories. The big surprise for me is that for some reason I thought she was a young person in her twenties when I first heard about her, but she then talked about her adult daughter in this chat.
Quote from: Curryong on January 23, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
Yes, Lorren seems to have thoroughly enjoyed her time with the Sussexes. I?m sure she?ll always have happy memories. The big surprise for me is that for some reason I thought she was a young person in her twenties when I first heard about her, but she then talked about her adult daughter in this chat.
Fair enough for her (along with good genes and probs a good skin-care plan) but she could've had her daughter young-ish? Like I'm 27 (turning 28 this year) and my mom had me when she was 16. So people are shocked that I'm her adult daughter.
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 23, 2023, 10:48:55 PM
Fair enough for her (along with good genes and probs a good skin-care plan) but she could've had her daughter young-ish? Like I'm 27 (turning 28 this year) and my mom had me when she was 16. So people are shocked that I'm her adult daughter.
Yes, it can happen like that. My elder daughter had my first grandchild when she was 19, and personally, as the only surviving child of older parents, I?m glad to see the warm closeness between my daughter and her daughter (who is your age exactly!) I do think that genetics has something to do with it as well. And my presumption somehow that Lorren would be a young nanny to Archie.
Prince Harry was spotted walking with his childhood friend Nicky.
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 25, 2023, 03:49:27 PM
Prince Harry was spotted walking with his childhood friend Nicky.
I presume this is in or near Montecito? Even California would be a bit chilly in January!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnUEBkgX0AIUJk9?format=jpg&name=small)
Nicky Scott married Yuki Oshima (daughter of a Japanese Billionaire) 2014, a few months before Harry and Cressida broke up. I'm not sure Harry went to the wedding in Tokyo.
Nicky spends his year; London, Hawaii, Tokyo, making stopovers in LA, California.
Quote from: Curryong on January 25, 2023, 07:23:20 PM
I presume this is in or near Montecito? Even California would be a bit chilly in January!
Yep in Montecito! As pictured above, he's buddled up a bit (and I call it a bit because I'm a wimp when it comes to the cold)
I wasn't sure about posting the photo or not, I was trying to find a news article that mentioned it and had photos. I thought I saw one on twitter but I couldn't find the photo.
I know more than one poster is going to snicker and scoff (Yes you
@Macrobug67!) but it's a chilly 61 degrees Farenheit today in Montecito and that's typical for the region this time of year. (My daughter lived in Isla Vista next to UCSB for four years and found it damp and cold this time of year.)
Now Prince Harry seems to have quickly adapted to Central Coast weather in the past few years after life in the UK so I'm not surprised that he's bundled up. Meghan lived in Illinois and Toronto so she's lived in much colder climates. However the fog does linger along the coast and that just adds to the chill.
Montecito, CA Weather Conditions | Weather Underground (https://www.wunderground.com/weather/us/ca/montecito)
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 25, 2023, 08:32:59 PM
Yep in Montecito! As pictured above, he's buddled up a bit (and I call it a bit because I'm a wimp when it comes to the cold)
I wasn't sure about posting the photo or not, I was trying to find a news article that mentioned it and had photos. I thought I saw one on twitter but I couldn't find the photo.
Yes I hate the cold too. One of the reasons I migrated to Australia!
Quote from: Curryong on January 25, 2023, 08:43:01 PM
Yes I hate the cold too. One of the reasons I migrated to Australia!
Yes! And you being from NORFOLK would know coastal cold!!!
Quote from: changemhysoul on January 25, 2023, 08:32:59 PM
Yep in Montecito! As pictured above, he's buddled up a bit (and I call it a bit because I'm a wimp when it comes to the cold)
I wasn't sure about posting the photo or not, I was trying to find a news article that mentioned it and had photos. I thought I saw one on twitter but I couldn't find the photo.
It's an intriguing photo...look at the three wrapped boxes he is carrying. It's also nice that he is just having a nice walk with a friend and doesn't look upset or serious.
Quote from: Curryong on January 25, 2023, 08:43:01 PM
Yes I hate the cold too. One of the reasons I migrated to Australia!
Guess you won't be moving to central New England, then! Although, we have had a warmer than usual January. It will be about 38F today.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on January 27, 2023, 01:30:54 PM
Guess you won't be moving to central New England, then! Although, we have had a warmer than usual January. It will be about 38F today.
That is good, if your interested...I do believe, I saw a tweet that said it might be a book(s) called LOTUSLAND- Coffee Table Book
"A beautifully crafted volume on the world-renowned gardens of Lotusland?the first such book in more than two decades and the first ever magnificent tribute to this international treasure."
I'm going to post the will they won't they travel to the UK/Coronation in their general chat until May 6 (group event).
The Daily Express is making a 'government' claim this time.
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Prince Harry and Meghan ARE invited to King's Coronation but have just weeks to respond
EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have been included on the Coronation guest list as the King is keen to make amends with his youngest son, it can be revealed.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will be invited to the King's Coronation this spring, it can be revealed. A detailed plan is underway to ensure the couple do not overshadow the proceedings in any way, a Whitehall source said, after Harry levelled allegations and criticism at the Royal Family in his memoir, Spare. ''They're on the list and planning is well underway to make sure the proceedings run as smooth as possible - without any drama'', they said.
The Palace is currently working in close consultation with No10 and the Foreign Office to finalise the guest list.
RSVP is mandatory until first week of April
Prince Harry and Meghan are on the King's Coronation guest list | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1733379/prince-harry-meghan-markle-news-coronation-invite)
I suppose a freed seat can be allocated to someone else if a person doesn't RSVP.
this is a little random thing,
during the commercials for the superbowl, it featured photos of Harry and Meghan's wedding and the duo at the Jubilee
https://twitter.com/i/status/1625119201215275009
Tubi Free Movies Free TV commercial
a little random and happy but happy valentines day to everyone and a very special celebration for both Harry & Lili's pregnancy announcements.
Quote from: changemhysoul on February 13, 2023, 02:22:39 PM
this is a little random thing,
during the commercials for the superbowl, it featured photos of Harry and Meghan's wedding and the duo at the Jubilee
That?s lovely and reminders of past happy times!
Will they won't they, Coronation. Harry wants a meeting with Charles and William before leaving Montecito.
Harry and Meghan are 'undecided' about whether to attend the King's coronation as duke demands meeting with his father and Prince William before leaving his Montecito home
Harry and Meghan have not decided if they will attend the coronation in May
The couple are expected to be invited despite their fallout with the Royal Family
Daily Mirror
They (the media) should just get over it. Whoever is in the royals PR camp should just let it go and stop talking about how Charles wants Harry there.
We're not not even at the end of the February. Honestly, Harry has already given everyone an out during his interviews and it can be blamed on him.
One, he stated him and his wife and therefore his kids are team. The media and whoever else going on about how only Harry is wanted back, sneaking him and out while Meghan stays behind and etc, isn't going endear him to coming.
Two, he already stated what he wanted, an apology to his wife and for the family to actually address the fact that they let information relating to him and his family leak constantly. (Giving up titles, stepping back, crying and etc.)
Three, he said without that, he won't be there.
Four, the royal PR, media and whoever and etc are saying the family won't do that.
Therefore, Harry and Meghan won't be there.
If they just firmly state that it won't be happening, there is no need to count the days, constantly put out articles, constant media-play. We have the answer. Harry wants an apology, they feel they don't need to give one (which is fine, I'm not here to argue that point, it is what it is.) Which leads us too, Harry and Meghan won't be there. No need to wonder about it. Ponder of it. I'd take both of these camps making it clear what will and won't work as the answer.
Harry and Meghan stay home and celebrate the most important event in their family for that day.
Charles and co won't have to worry about them.
And the media still gets what they want because once the day passes, they'll have all of the time to make their money from articles about the Sussex's not being there, being mad that they're not there while saying it was wonderful event because they weren't there.
So, until something actually comes from either side in a statement released by them, I'd take it as Sussex's not going.
Perhaps it is media fill in the box for a paycheck, and they are taking advantage of Harry's Spare 'tour' of interviews where he stated several things related to the British Monarchy; apology for Meghan in order to go to the Coronation, I'd like to work for the British Monarchy via the Commonwealth if Pa asks.
If I was H, I'd go for the big moneys allegedly being offered by several US media to be a 'easy' reporter 'in studio'. Easy = H signaling to live editors to pan him, he wants to make a comment. It's a win win situation IMO. He makes loads of moneys, rather than being ignored by the BRF. Surely he knows they ignore him because he runs his mouth immediately after any type of 'exchange' with a senior royal. Also the trashing of Camilla and Catherine is not a man thing to do.
Yeah, I don't think so. It'd be pointless for Harry to do a live about the coronation because he doesn't actually know how one is ran? It'd make no sense imo. Now, if he had some deep know-all about how these things go, then it would make sense. But hey, if it's something he would like doing, by all means, have fun. Also, the BRF have been doing everything but ignore him imo.
I've also made my feelings clear, seeing as Harry isn't the only person who goes running to the papers once they get information, Harry can play the game as his family plays the game. I just respect him more because he willing to say it with his chest.
I'd say yeah, Camilla got it bad but eh, I don't feel to bad for her as she re-hired someone who broke the trust of the young princes. In fact, I'd say it's pretty graceful to of Harry to say that she only did it because she needed to survive as the mistress, then girlfriend, then wife of Charles and it points to a bigger issue within the media and the institution/family. Kate, didn't get it nearly as bad some people might like to try and paint it. In fact, Harry talked fondly of her hidden funny said and only talked about her actions. If her actions were so bad that them being revealed, makes people think he's trashing her. It says more about her as a person than Harry. Kate didn't get trashed as much as people want to say that. Camilla got it worse by far and even then, Harry didn't just call her villian but painted her as a victims of circumstance.
In fact, he gave a lot of humility and grace to his family that I, personally would not have. He treated him as a human beings with flaws and all but when the family is suppose to modeling / are being held to the standard of being perfect, appointed by god and what people should look too.....treating him like human beings can come off as trashing.
To bring it back to the Coronation and not Spare because I don't want the thread to derailed and complaints about him and his writing about Camilla and Kate are more reserved for the book thread (I think, I just don't want to get a warning or take it too far)
Harry has already given everyone an out, take it.
He wants apology, they don't want to give apology, therefore he won't be showing up and they don't have to worry about him appearing. So, Harry gets the peace to enjoy the most important event and have fun with Archie and family. Charles gets Harry not being there and a peaceful event and the media gets something to write about.
We move on and there's nothing to lord over the Sussex's head for a "will they, won't they." for a good few years.
Allegedly it will be an ''easy'' reporter status rather than a historian reporter status. Easy reporting includes ID people he surely knows and what kind of anecdote he can state in reference to the ID'd people. The scary part would be 'my memory is my memory, I will curate it as I see fit. The drug and alcohol abuse in his life is factual science of taking a big effect on the brain depending on the quantity of intake.
In reference to trashing women, the couple should have immediately registered ''the first and second and that's it reaction'' of the royal family, minus Eugenie. The first reaction is the Queen's official statement and the second is William. The registered indication the couple should have noted was that 'you can't break the unity of this family'. But historically, the couple insisted in trying to break that unity and so far have failed to the point of ignoring him. Every time the couple do a media outburst, the deafening silence should be an indication, and yet they intimidate that the next one will be 'bigger'.
Oh, I didn?t realize the coronation was on the same day as Archie?s birthday, I just thought his birthday was around the same time. Then there?s definitely no reason to go. There never really was to begin with. He doesn?t like what they did. He?s no longer a working member of the family. And it?s Archie?s birthday? I would have already said no way Jose from the get. He?s superfluous at the coronation; not so at his son?s birthday.
That is the hope of the monarchists and I dare say equating it to UK surveys, the general population. But the but is Harry said he and Meghan will go to the coronation only if the Royals apologize to her. The rest is media allegations.
Quote from: HistoryGirl2 on February 15, 2023, 04:05:13 PM
Oh, I didn?t realize the coronation was on the same day as Archie?s birthday, I just thought his birthday was around the same time. Then there?s definitely no reason to go. There never really was to begin with. He doesn?t like what they did. He?s no longer a working member of the family. And it?s Archie?s birthday? I would have already said no way Jose from the get. He?s superfluous at the coronation; not so at his son?s birthday.
his son will have loads of birthdays, there's only one coronation.
I read HistoryGirl2 comment as Harry is unneeded, redundant to the Coronation, but and needed and required to Archie's birthday.
Two optics from ''Publicist CEO' experts:
1. Harry thinks the royal family will apologize as he demands OR
2. Harry is clever making that demand knowing his family will not apologize but creating a great quantity of media buzz with the will they won't they. As I said in previous comments, the media will be taking 'advantage' of his quote, stretching it to a gazillion articles, usually they do, according to publicist experts, it's an old tactic to be front page news.
ETA: According to publicist experts, whichever 1 or 2 optic, both are distracting, both create disturbance among a majority of a population that are clearly happy with a Constitutional Monarchy as form of Government. IF he doesn't get the apology (No.1), he doesn't care to lose, he already created a nuisance in the minds of British citizens, No. 2 is happening since 1 plus month ago since he said he demanded an apology.
^Correct,
@wannable. My comment was based on Harry not being needed at the coronation. He?s not a necessary component from the perspective of the RF. He?s no longer a functional component of the firm. So, if he went, it?s really only because *he* would wanna go, not because he *has* to. And based on how he?s spoken about the family, I wouldn?t know why he would want to, so I tend to think he?ll be invited and decline to attend.
I think he'll still go, unless he really feels that he will get a cool reception.. and Im sure the RF will be outwardly polite.
He's always creating drama and tends to find reasons to be upset and complain. If he doesn't get the apology and Welby doesn't intervene, I'm not so sure that he will attend. That way he can retain his anger and air more dirty laundry while being relieved that he didn't have to go and not be given a prominent role.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle in Standoff With Royals Ahead of Coronation
WILL THEY WON'T THEY
Harry has suggested he won't attend the coronation without a family sit-down. Given that none is forthcoming, will the couple blink or skip the biggest global event of the year?
Tom Sykes
Royalist Correspondent
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, Still Waiting For That Apology, Ponder Coronation Options (https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-still-waiting-for-that-apology-ponder-coronation-options)
Quote from: Amabel2 on February 16, 2023, 04:30:40 AM
I think he'll still go, unless he really feels that he will get a cool reception.. and Im sure the RF will be outwardly polite.
Yes if they choose to attend then I expect that the BRF members will be civil but wary. I expect that the members of the family will simply limit their conversations with the either or both of the Sussexes to generalities.
At this point in time, I don't see an in person meeting happening in the months leading up to the Coronation. If these are the terms that Prince Harry has made, then I don't see him wanting to budge from his position.
American Radar Online taking advantage from Harry's Coronation quotes in Spare
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Sources spilled that the Duke of Sussex, 38, is mulling going solo to London for the 90-minute ceremony ? provided he gets a front-row seat and isn?t shunned as a total outsider.
But Meghan, 41, finds it appalling Harry is even considering the palace?s one-sided plan, a source spilled. ?Apparently, she finds this proposal insulting and typically manipulative, since it?s forcing Harry to choose between his current family and attending the coronation,? spilled a source.
Quote from: wannable on February 16, 2023, 01:45:27 PM
American Radar Online taking advantage from Harry's Coronation quotes in Spare
Radar Online. Oh, pleeeze! The website that stated there?s was pornography involving Meghan circulating on the Internet in 2017 and were constantly promising to show it at any minute but somehow, hardly surprisingly, never did. Yes, they are a really creditable and viable source with reference to Harry and BP. I don?t think!!
Quote from: wannable on February 16, 2023, 01:45:27 PM
American Radar Online taking advantage from Harry's Coronation quotes in Spare
I'm not sure if this is the most reliable source of information.
Quote from: TLLK on February 16, 2023, 01:23:50 PM
Yes if they choose to attend then I expect that the BRF members will be civil but wary. I expect that the members of the family will simply limit their conversations with the either or both of the Sussexes to generalities.
At this point in time, I don't see an in person meeting happening in the months leading up to the Coronation. If these are the terms that Prince Harry has made, then I don't see him wanting to budge from his position.
I think he'll come. He knows the RF are not pleased wiht him, and a lot of te public and media as well, but I feel that whatever he does, he reckons he will look good in the eyes of his supporters. If he doesn't come, he'll say that he didn't get the apology and he doesn't want to be there - if he does come, h e'll say that he got an apology but was still stuck in the back row, and that Charles whined to him when they were talking and Will woud barely talk to him... NO matter what Charles does, H will spin it to make himself look good. If Ch doesnt invite them he's a racist, if he does, he is afraid of Harry's saying awful things about him to the press
I think if an American network pays him the right price x 3days (or just 1 day), he's staying put in Montecito.
Katie Nicholl was paid GBP250,000 for 3 hours...how much would a Prince get paid?
Of course KN earned - meritocracy that commanding and still record breaking Royal Reporter money after working hard for 8 years really following William and Kate at clubs, pubs, public areas outside from the agreed no go zone of St. Andrews, Party Pieces, Jigsaw, Sandhurst, etc. Then doing her bit visiting Kate's childhood and teenage schools, homes, activities, wrote the first Kate book. Completely justifiable and merit to it, but surely Prince Harry will break that record payment if hired and accepts the commentator role.
I don't know if the photos are recent or not but there were photos going around on twitter of Harry, taking a bike ride with Archie.
I have look through the Netflix doc but I don't they're from there.
Quote from: changemhysoul on February 23, 2023, 08:54:37 PM
I don't know if the photos are recent or not but there were photos going around on twitter of Harry, taking a bike ride with Archie.
I have look through the Netflix doc but I don't they're from there.
If Archie looks nearly four years old and is on his own bike then they are probably recent. There are photos of the two of them together on bikes of course but those tend to be quite old. I?d take a look myself but my iPad is playing up!
Quote from: Curryong on February 23, 2023, 10:36:46 PM
If Archie looks nearly four years old and is on his own bike then they are probably recent. There are photos of the two of them together on bikes of course but those tend to be quite old. I?d take a look myself but my iPad is playing up!
Archie wasn't on his own bike but a little seat attached to Harry's bike. It was hard to tell age/looks but it could be old. It was just new to me and I was sure I hadn't seen it in the doc but hey, a nice stroll around is always fun.
I'm assuming it would go here, about Frogmore.
Put out Harry, despite liking him or not on a cottage, a so-called gift that he's paying rent on for Andrew who liked to hang out with convicted pedo's and sex offenders. A man who couldn't even denounce said sex offender when it came down to the wire. After he managed to keep his security despite stepping back before Harry.
If there was anyway to take back all the effort they put into making that place a home. When they have all of their stuff shipped back, I hope they take anything that they paid for that can be taken.
That's all I have to say on the matter.
Barred from access to police security, there's just one space that meets the Sussexes' security needs when visiting the UK Frogmore Cottage. Soon, that will no longer be an option.
The inside story of King Charles's "cruel" eviction of Harry and Meghan
Omid Scobie
He also said the couple have not received a Coronation invitation.
Meanwhile the couple were out and about last night
Pictures Page Six
The invitations haven?t been sent out yet. The latest reports say they?ll be sent next week.
And judging by the tabloid media one would think that bailiffs came in and chucked the Sussex family, kids, dogs and everything out on their collective ears, along with all their possessions. You can?t physically evict people who aren?t present to be evicted.
And it appears he ASKED the Sussexes to move out so Andrew can move in. Whether Andrew and Fergie are willing to do so with a 75 year lease in hand at Royal Lodge is another matter. Way to get on the right side of his two royal nieces he?s reputedly so fond of.
AND no dukedom for Edward which was widely expected. Great family relationships all round from the new King. .
Omid forgot to add in his Yahoo! Article that with no UK domicile Harry effectively will also lose counselor of state status. Although there is sufficient grounds to disqualify him.
There?s nothing to stop the couple from leasing an apartment in Windsor or near the outskirts of London.
Harry and Meghan having a date night, in high spirits and both beaming. Harry happy about the great success of Spare.
Meghan Markle, Prince Harry have first night out since 'Spare' released (https://pagesix.com/2023/02/28/meghan-markle-prince-harry-have-first-night-out-since-spare-released/)
Closing this thread and opening a new one as we're close to 15 pages. Discussion of Frogmore Cottage is to continue in the new thread.