Former monarchies historic discussion: France, Germany, Russia etc..

[Amabel2]

Is it just me? I know the jewels were stolen and they were the property of the Hesse family, but I feel a bit iffy that they were ex Nazis, who were going to hold onto their jewels when Germany was in ruins...
it would be nice if one thought that the family would use some of their jewels to help their fellow Germans

[Curryong]

Is it just me? I know the jewels were stolen and they were the property of the Hesse family, but I feel a bit iffy that they were ex Nazis, who were going to hold onto their jewels when Germany was in ruins...
it would be nice if one thought that the family would use some of their jewels to help their fellow Germans

I don?t know that the entire Hesse family were ex Nazis, in fact it?s extremely doubtful that most of them were. The two who were the most virulent, Christoph, married to PP?s sister, and one of his brothers, certainly fell into the camp of believing that the Nazis were the way out of Germany?s humiliations after WW1.

Both seemed to believe, in the beginning, anyway, that Hitler would restore the nobility and royal Houses of the former Imperial Germany, something many former Imperial royals believed, including at least two of Kaiser Bill?s sons. There is some evidence though that Christoph was disillusioned by the time he was killed in a flying accident in Italy in 1943. PP remembered him as a soft spoken and rather gentle sort of character.

I don?t think that the Hesses were alone at all in hiding and burying jewellery, plate and other precious possessions as the war progressed. They may well have been terrified of Nazi looters, then the Russians and the probable chaos of another defeat.

I don?t know either that the Hesses of that particular branch were tremendously wealthy. The jewels may have been thought of as collateral if they lost everything else. And I don?t know that robbing others is fine and dandy if the victims are not the greatest people in the world. That?s questionable to say the least, isn?t it?

[Amabel2]

I did not say that at all

[LouisFerdinand]

Empress Eugenie of France had Louis Vuitton's company make the expansive monogrammed
luggage necessary to transport her enormous wardrobe from place to place.   

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[LouisFerdinand]

Princess Pauline Bonaparte Borghese was a sister of Emperor Napoleon I of France.   
When Prince Camillo Borghese sent his wife Pauline notes addressed to the "Princess   
Borghese" she sent them back. She opened only those addressed to   
"Her Imperial Highness the Princess Pauline". 

[LouisFerdinand]

Archduke Franz Ferdinand wanted to have the navy modernized.   
He wanted long-term military chiefs to retire. He wanted an alliance formed with the Russian Empire.
Emperor Franz Joseph did not like these demands.

[LouisFerdinand]

King Louis XIV of France dressed up as the sun for a theatre performance at Versailles     
Mary Evans LOUIS XIV, called Le Roi Soleil (1638-1715). 10682394

[LouisFerdinand]

In 1555 the English seaman Richard Chancellor was received by Tsar Ivan IV.   
Mary Evans RUSSIA/CHANCELLOR VISIT 10074976

[LouisFerdinand]

Elizabeth of Hainaut (1170-1190), Queen of France, was the wife of King Philip II of France.
    She was just a girl when she arrived at the French court.     
Isabel de Henao, La Desdichada "Reina-Ni?a" que fue Amada por su Pueblo, Reina Consorte de Francia. - YouTube

[LouisFerdinand]

Tsar Alexander II of Russia set up the zemstvo system, which allowed for the local self-government, and ended some of the privileges of the nobility.

[LouisFerdinand]

King Frederick I of Wurttemberg reigned from 1806 to 1816.   
King Frederick I with Emperor Napoleon I of France in Stuttgart in 1805   
Mary Evans Frederick I., 6.11.1754 - 30.10.1816, King of 10457452

[LouisFerdinand]

John (Johan) I was the King of Sweden from 1216 until 1222.     
He was crowned in 1219 and issued a charter of privileges for the Swedish bishops.

[LouisFerdinand]

Hugh Capet (c. 939-996) was the King of the Franks from 987 to 996.   
Immediately after his coronation, Hugh began to insist for the coronation of his son Robert.   
The archbishop answered that two kings cannot be created the same year.

[LouisFerdinand]

During his reign Tsar Peter III of Russia withdrew from the Seven Years War.     
10 Interesting Facts about Peter III of Russia - YouTube

[LouisFerdinand]

King Ludwig II of Bavaria with his ship Tristan near Berg Castle in 1867     
Mary Evans Ludwig II, 25.8.1845 - 13.6.1886, King of Bavaria 10439421

[LouisFerdinand]

Rudolph of Habsburg (1218-1291) sought to recover the many imperial possessions which   
had been lost since 1245. He saw to it that the taxes laid upon the imperial cities and towns were duly paid.

[LouisFerdinand]

When Empress Eugenie of France took the waters at Schwalbach in the   
Duchy of Nassau, she travelled incognito as the Comtesse de Pierrefonds.

[LouisFerdinand]

Prince Charles Ferdinand d'Orleans (1820-1828) was a son of King Louis Philippe I   
and Queen Amelie of the French. He was created Duke of Penthievre.

[LouisFerdinand]

Unification of Italy: King Victor Emmanuel II   
Unification of Italy: Victor Emmanuel II (1820-1878), first King of Italy from February 1861, shaking Leopold II, Grand Duke of Tuscany, out of Italy.

[HistoryGirl2]

Hugh Capet (c. 939-996) was the King of the Franks from 987 to 996.   
Immediately after his coronation, Hugh began to insist for the coronation of his son Robert.   
The archbishop answered that two kings cannot be created the same year.

Lol old post, but I just saw it and it made me chuckle. Such interesting and dynamic times?

[LouisFerdinand]

Lol old post, but I just saw it and it made me chuckle. Such interesting and dynamic times?

Even if King Hugh's son had had an early coronation, what guarantee is there that King Robert would reign successfully?

[HistoryGirl2]

No guarantees in those days. That thought popped into my head the other day when I was reading up on the death of Alfred the Great. I guess you just did anything possible to bolster the argument for your chosen successor, but things could always change once a ruler died.

[LouisFerdinand]

Maximilian I was Holy Roman Emperor from 1508 until 1519.   
In 1508 Maximilian, with the assent of Pope Julius II, took the title Elected Holy Roman Emperor,   
thus ending the custom that the Holy Roman Emperor had to be crowned by the Pope

[LouisFerdinand]

In 1289 King Denis of Portugal signed the Concordat of Forty Articles with Pope Nicholas IV, swearing to protect the Church's interests in Portugal.

[LouisFerdinand]

Whatever happened to Napoleon I's only legitimate son?   
Whatever Happened To Napoleon's Only Legitimate Son? - YouTube