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THAT scene in the Beverly Hills reboot :hehe: ... and this is supposed to be the strong , interesting woman who is ABOVE his other exes that include a lawyer who doesn't have anything like that flooding the Internet? MIND BLOWING ... NO WAY Liz and the people around her are that far gone to let this mess get ANYWHERE the Balcony ...
If Harry wants to marry Meghan he will do it. It will be a done deal. Queen will not block it. Will Harry want to marry her we'll see. To me it seems only a question when not if he'll propose to her. But we'll see.
^ The Queen will have a say in whoever and whenever Harry marries unless Kate becomes pregnant this Year and he can fly off to Africa like we all know he wants to ... not that it will get that far ... he can't stand her presence for more than a week ...
We'll see. My bet is firmly on 2017 engagement with Meghan.
^ Oh she will try ... too bad for her Harry doesn't want ball and chains around more than necessary ... the end will come when the younger blond I am sure he is texting will actually return his calls and he will have a full time bed warmer ... it's like some know nothing about Harry ... no way he is ready for marriage and certainly not to a middle aged divorce ...
Harry is going to marry Meghan, I have no doubts And will be the most charismatic and influential couple of royalty :hug: :hug: :wub: :wub:
Quote from: Eri on March 20, 2017, 02:14:38 PM
^ Oh she will try ... too bad for her Harry doesn't want ball and chains around more than necessary ... the end will come when the younger blond I am sure he is texting will actually return his calls and he will have a full time bed warmer ... it's like some know nothing about Harry ... no way he is ready for marriage and certainly not to a middle aged divorce ...
I doubt that. 35 is not middle aged, maybe it was when Henry VIII married Catherine of Aragon.
Quote from: Eri on March 20, 2017, 02:14:38 PM
^ Oh she will try ... too bad for her Harry doesn't want ball and chains around more than necessary ... the end will come when the younger blond I am sure he is texting will actually return his calls and he will have a full time bed warmer ... it's like some know nothing about Harry ... no way he is ready for marriage and certainly not to a middle aged divorce ...
You're sure Harry is texting with young blonde? :hehe: Let's get serious. Despite being older than him, biracial, American Harry still
defended her with an unprecedented statement something he wouldn't do for Chelsy or Cressie. He invited her to friend's wedding just few weeks ago. He wouldn't do that if he was bored by her.
She's reportedly about to meet HM. All points out to 2017 engagement. I can't wait to see them as Duke and Duchess doing some engagements.
^ The only place she will get to be Duchess of is Toronto ... like seriously ... this time last Year she was living with another mam with whom she has a civil union ... if Harry didn't marry Cressida who was perfect on paper he won't marry this very problematic woman not even her sister can stand ... the men in grey made Chelsy go away and Megan will have the same fate ...
Samantha Grant, Meghan's sister, has Muscular Dystrophy, a condition which can cause wild mood swings I understand, poor woman. That could very well explain Samantha going on ET and raving about her sister, comparing her to Diana, and then the bagging of Meghan by her. Other family members, including Samantha's own mother, full brother and child are estranged from her.
Quote from: Eri on March 20, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
^ The only place she will get to be Duchess of is Toronto ... like seriously ... this time last Year she was living with another mam with whom she has a civil union ... if Harry didn't marry Cressida who was perfect on paper he won't marry this very problematic woman not even her sister can stand ... the men in grey made Chelsy go away and Megan will have the same fate ...
Chelsy was free to leave. She was not forced to.
Duchess of Sussex is likely according to various journalists. Windsor would be too problematic for Harry and Meg. Duches of Toronto she won't be. :hehe:
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Prince Harry treats girlfriend Meghan Markle to romantic after-hours tour of Natural History Museum (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3137207/prince-harry-meghan-markle-natural-history-museum-tour/)
Excellent to see that Meghan is back in England, and that the couple are spending some of their time in cultural pursuits! :wink:
Quote from: Eri on March 20, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
^ The only place she will get to be Duchess of is Toronto ... like seriously ... this time last Year she was living with another mam with whom she has a civil union ... if Harry didn't marry Cressida who was perfect on paper he won't marry this very problematic woman not even her sister can stand ... the men in grey made Chelsy go away and Megan will have the same fate ...
Last year is not this year. And you are just guessing that the union was civil. Lol, you are sure that Harry is texting some young blonde, just as you were so sure that Harry and Meghan broke up in December. It is March and they are still together. He seems to be quite happy with the person he is with now and she as everyone can plainly see is not blond.
The sister appears to be cruel, opportunistic and her petty, jealous behaviour speaks for itself. The sister begs for attention and publicly attacks her own younger sister, no wonder MM ignores her. The sister seems to have poor or no relationship with other family members too, so who really cares about the opinion of someone like her. It is unfortunate that she has MD, however her rants are frequent about MM and not other family members. Plain and simple jealousy is an ugly behaviour, nothing to be proud of.
^ I will tell you what is nothing to be proud of ... that scene in Beverly Hills ... that anyone would find her worthy to be an Ambassador for the UK and a dignified representative for the Queen is mind blowing ... the fact that Harry can't do any better than her not even a younger version of Cressida makes him look pathetic and desperate ... someone like Leo wouldn't give Megan a second glance maybe because he has an actual job/talent and real money and as a result can pick and choose between very famous VS models ...
Why would he want a younger version of Cressida? Why must the woman look like Cressida?
So if she played a murderess with an axe Meghan would be a homicidal maniac in real life , or if she played a prostitute she'd be a two bit hooker in reality. Because she plays a silly and promiscuous girl on a TV show she isn't worthy to become an ambassador for UK interests? You didn't see a thing in that scene, it was all implied. It's called A.C.T.I.N.G.
I suppose Charles wanting to be a tampon in his mistress's knickers is something to be proud of and qualifies him to be the future King, does it? Or Prince Andrew being a very great friend of a man convicted of Paedophile offences is truly admirable. As is of course Kate showing her bare behind to the world on several occasions? Yes, very dignified! The BRF aren't so squeaky clean that Meghan playing a momentary risqué scene in a teenage tv series will throw mud over them all.
^ First of all and it has nothing to do with the topic at hand but it bothers me ... it's not Chuck's fault you don't get HIS SENSE OF HUMOR he is just humoring Cam in that phone call if you BOTHER to read the transcript without making thing up just for the sake of attacking him ... OF COURSE the man never wanted to be a Tampon :lol: it's ridiculous that anyone would think that ... as for what we are here to talk about ... attacking other members of RF including Harry who has a questionable past from racist remarks to thinking it's a good idea to get naked in a room full of strangers won't make Megan any less problematic ... again ... how anyone especially after how Cressida was treated can think this woman is worthy to join the Balcony is beyond me ...
^ Well Eri by your logic given the way Cressida was treated how can you justify Camilla being worthy to join the balcony given the way Diana was treated?.
Quote from: Curryong on March 20, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
Samantha Grant, Meghan's sister, has Muscular Dystrophy, a condition which can cause wild mood swings I understand, poor woman. That could very well explain Samantha going on ET and raving about her sister, comparing her to Diana, and then the bagging of Meghan by her. Other family members, including Samantha's own mother, full brother and child are estranged from her.
How very sad and thank you for sharing this information as it sheds some light on her behavior.
^ Or trying to spin why she hates Megan as much as the whole Internet does ... who knows ... one thing is for sure ... this will end in tears FOR Prince Dim ... it will be a long time before the public forgives him this time around ...
Do you think the public care that much about "forgiving Harry." People have their own lives to worry about.
Quote from: Eri on March 21, 2017, 12:05:04 PM
^ First of all and it has nothing to do with the topic at hand but it bothers me ... it's not Chuck's fault you don't get HIS SENSE OF HUMOR he is just humoring Cam in that phone call if you BOTHER to read the transcript without making thing up just for the sake of attacking him ... OF COURSE the man never wanted to be a Tampon :lol: it's ridiculous that anyone would think that ... as for what we are here to talk about ... attacking other members of RF including Harry who has a questionable past from racist remarks to thinking it's a good idea to get naked in a room full of strangers won't make Megan any less problematic ... again ... how anyone especially after how Cressida was treated can think this woman is worthy to join the Balcony is beyond me ...
Prince William had an "out of Africa" party which glorified colonial Africa. Prince Philip has made racist remarks for decades. Charles has a weird sense of humor. He married a woman knowing he preferred someone else. Kate had her wardrobe malfunctions which left very little to the imagination. Funny how you single out Harry.
No family is perfect. Roal family is so far from perfect it isn't even funny. If Camilla got in Meghan will easily get in. Nothing about being an actress is scandalous especially today. And in that particular scene nothing is shown or controversial. Nothing. Meryl Streep among sooo many actresses has done more racy scenes in movies.
@sandy you forgot Charles calling the Chinese appalling old wax works. I'm still waiting to hear from Eri as to her logic to why it is mind blowing for Meghan to be worthy of the balcony given the way Cressida was treated and she and Harry were over for Two Years with Camilla being worthy after the way Diana was treated and Diana was still with Charles through years of their affair.
Meghan is worthy of becoming Harry's wife if that is what he decides. Meghan has done nothing to Cressida nor Harry's other exes.
Quote from: Eri on March 21, 2017, 02:51:45 PM
^ Or trying to spin why she hates Megan as much as the whole Internet does ... who knows ... one thing is for sure ... this will end in tears FOR Prince Dim ... it will be a long time before the public forgives him this time around ...
The public is grateful for Harry supporting and bringing attention to many important causes, like the 3 charities he visited today in Leicester. Many were touched as his mother also visited one of the charities 26 years ago. Prince Harry visits Leicester | The Royal Family (https://www.royal.uk/prince-harry-visits-leicester)
I hope that Harry and Meghan will have much happiness.
Quote from: Eri on March 21, 2017, 02:51:45 PM
^ Or trying to spin why she hates Megan as much as the whole Internet does ... who knows ... one thing is for sure ... this will end in tears FOR Prince Dim ... it will be a long time before the public forgives him this time around ...
The whole internet doesn't hate Harry. Don't be ridiculous. You think people who are buying and selling online, or are on sites connected to cold crime cases or US politics or astronomy or antiques or a thousand other sites are all pounding their computers with rage because Harry is dating MM?
The only people who've expressed hatred of Harry are some silly little anons on Tumblr sites who can't get over the fact that Harry isn't dating the future Duchess of their dreams.
Well, I've got news for them and for you. People are still coming out to see Harry on his engagements and the walls of BP aren't going to be stormed by angry citizens on the day that he marries. Instead there will be crowds out to see him and his bride, just as there has been for every other Royal wedding over the last 100 years.
The BRF isn't going to collapse over this. Instead there will just be another Duchess out on engagements, another couple/family for the media to comment on and the anons will just have to adjust and suck it up.
^ His funeral ... I won't feel sorry for him ... I won't be the one to deal with anything ... Prince Dim will ... and trust me the mess he got himself into will make Fergie look like a child's play ...
What mess? He has a steady girlfriend. Because it's not some younger blonde, it does not mean they don't have a good relationship
^ The type of relationship they have is that she is only photographed in Toronto and no matter how much her team leaks of "romantic dates" in London no one sees her ... it's amazing there is no sightings of her in the age of Instagram and Twitter ... what is weirder is that some paps would travel all around the World to photograph her but they can't find her at Kensigton ...
Someone give this lady a bucket of water. The thirst is real.
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Eri, who do you think he should be with?
Wht type of person?
You truly are against MM. I thought, had he and Chelsy found their way back to each other, she could have made it.
Cressida was too young, flighty in style ,hobo chic, etc.
He should be with some marriageable young woman, not one that the RF is not likely to approve of and who would probably nto want to igve up her career.
I should think that Harry and Meghan will have spoken about her career and their future life together. She is supposed to have stated that she is quite willing to give up her career and undertake more humanitarian work.
She has a nice way with people. I've seen videos of her interactions with the public. Meghan is an excellent speech maker and has done quite a bit of charity work.
Why would the royals consider her unacceptable? Because she's American? Don't think so! Because she's older than Harry? Nothing either of them can do about that. According to friends they're in love. Because she's divorced? So are Charles, Camilla, Andrew and Princess Michael.
^^^Good points
@Curryong. A divorced woman is now the Queen of Spain. An unwed mother is set to become the next Queen of Norway when her husband ascends to the throne. The daughter of a dictator's cabinet member is now the Queen of the Netherlands. There is the possibility that a divorced woman will become the Queen Consort of the UK. All of these ladies have adapted to their new lives and perform their duties with apparent goodwill. IMHO.
Meghan Markle...I'm not seeing how the Windsors will find her "unacceptable."
Quote from: amabel on March 31, 2017, 07:31:11 PM
He should be with some marriageable young woman, not one that the RF is not likely to approve of and who would probably nto want to igve up her career.
I think if she wants to marry him she will give up her career. There would also be too many security risks for a wife of a royal who wants to work outside the UK. She is marriageable. Why wouldn't the royal family approve? They let Camilla in, a divorcee who was the other woman in Charles first marriage. And marrying a divorced Charles.
Thanks amabel for answering.
She is marriageable.
She is divorced, but had no children, was in a long term relationship with the man and a short lived marriage . She did not upsurp Harry's wife and play mistress with him or any man.
Harry is 5th in line and will never be King Henry # the whatever.
Any wife of Henry's will never be Queen Consort to him.
She is university with a degree and that is marriageable.
She is Harry's age just like Kate is W's age. A year or months older is not too old. Camila and Charles and Sophie ad Edward are all same age , if I am not mistaken.
She is pretty, thin, photogentic.
Lux hair. God skin Good teeth. Nice shape. Legs. No big American plastic boobs and big ole butt.
She has a career ...as an actress. Ehhhh. YES, she would quit in a NYC minute if Harry asked for engagement. Contract or not. So what!! She , PH can buy out the contract, undercover, giving her the money. The show will survive from the pr and some similar looking actress would be casted in a New York minute.
She has spoken before the UN. I saw the daily mail.com today, she is in Vanity Fair as one to watch for her causes. Emma Watson was in . MM has pics her of speaking to , meeting up close, PM Trudeau. A world leader. A plus there.
QEII has to approve. In reality, she will approve. In reality, she and TPTB would prefer an English girl of the nobility/aristos.
I GET THAT! I THINK THAT IS UNDERSTANABLE.
Thinking about how MM and PH met, and other people and things in my real life, it is like an odd force in fate but it seems somethings just were meant to be beyond anyone's control.
Kate went to SAU. Yeah, and yeah she wanted to be introduced to them. Teamed and met before Emilla as a friend...STILL all that , it was PW who had to want to date K. No one could make him like her. No one could make him date her.
PH and MM, maybe it is just one of those fate/universe things. Sometimes, , think about people you know , with their marriages, careers, it is just fate .
MM is American. That is hardly an unfriendly or unadaptable culture to Britian.
Roman Catholic. She can change that. Camilla was Roman Catholic.
Hmmmm, what else.
BLCK American. 1/2. She cannot change that. She will not have little brownie kids. Her phenotype is White an with any White guy, will have White kids. At mildest, slight, slight summer tan.
I thin MM and PH might be it. For his sake, I hope he has found his one.
MM, I will say, and I, we, know nothing about the lifestyle of BRF other than reading, but it is not entertainment world. Very strict rules set on traditions to keep the mystery behind the palace walls going to keep that class structure in place for hundreds, 600, 800, 1000 years or so. TO keep the people keeping the BRF and the rest, BRF have to do some very slight things . Really, show and cut ribbons. Act privately in public. Keep private life private. Small sacrifices they make to keep their place when you really think about it.
Can MM really understand what she is getting into in that public work part and in private, some things too?
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@Curryong , if PH marries her or someone else, I do not see him having a wedding like PAndrew had in the 1980's to rival that of PC and PD.
I think , because the BRF has to scale down at some point, PH's would be the turning point. I think it would be more like PE and Sophie.
Bea dn Eug seem in nohurry to marry , but PAndrew and Sarah would DEMAND nothing short of a wedding like theirs in 1980's.
1980s was a different time.
Now, you are talking Brexit, Scotland wanting to leave TheUK, maybe, and N.Ireland wanting to rejoin Ireland, maybe...cost of living...scaling back on the size of the monarchy as PC gets closer every year to the thrown, I do not see Westminster Abbey or St. Pauls and a national holiday and streets lined up and closed off and secure for days, weeks....etc.
I agree that Harry's wedding will be a scaled down version of William's. It most likely will be the Abbey or St George's on a Saturday to cause minimum traffic disruption. I certainly don't see St Paul's as a venue. However, it will be televised IMO.
You forget, I think, that Harry will be the last senior Royal to marry in this younger generation. The next big one is likely to be George's and that's decades away. He is also popular. People will turn out to have a look if it's a summer wedding, even during austerity and political uncertainty.
No-one cares really about the Yorkie princesses weddings. There may be an article or two in the media, especially in the Daily Fail, a spread in Hello or OK and that will be it, IMHO.
Or Charlotte could get married first. Princess Anne's got much attention in the seventies, the first of the Queen's children to get married.
Yes, Charlotte could indeed become popular and get married first. However, unless something extraordinary happens, her marriage and George's would have to wait until their university studies are completed at least, and that's a good couple of decades away. Due to Charles and William marrying and having children quite late (and Charles and Diana stopping breeding after two sons) there is a gap in prospective Royal weddings of senior royals for years into the future. As I said, Harry's will be the final hurrah of his generation of royals in the BRF.
Quote from: sandy on March 31, 2017, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: amabel on March 31, 2017, 07:31:11 PM
He should be with some marriageable young woman, not one that the RF is not likely to approve of and who would probably nto want to igve up her career.
I think if she wants to marry him she will give up her career. There would also be too many security risks for a wife of a royal who wants to work outside the UK. She is marriageable. Why wouldn't the royal family approve? They let Camilla in, a divorcee who was the other woman in Charles first marriage. And marrying a divorced Charles.
they only "let Camilla in " because she had been associated with charles for a long lifetime and it was obvious that he was not willing to give her up.. and Meghan is not only a divorcee, shes' American, has a career which presumably she likes and is older than Harry by a few years.
that's a minor problem, but I think that she may not rally want to give up acting and there's no way she could keep it up. she might not enjoy the royal routine after being her own woman for so long.
Camilla is Enlgish, upper class and knows the RF and knew what marriage to a royal would entail..
Meghan may thnk it is all glamourous and that she'd enjoy it, and then find it very restricting...
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Quote from: TLLK on March 31, 2017, 10:13:54 PM
^^^Good points @Curryong. A divorced woman is now the Queen of Spain. An unwed mother is set to become the next Queen of Norway when her husband ascends to the throne. The daughter of a dictator's cabinet member is now the Queen of the Netherlands. There is the possibility that a divorced woman will become the Queen Consort of the UK. All of these ladies have adapted to their new lives and perform their duties with apparent goodwill. IMHO.
Meghan Markle...I'm not seeing how the Windsors will find her "unacceptable."
I think that in sptie of recent years' scandals, (well in the 90s) the Windsors are still less keen on allowing marriages that might be considered controversial, than other royal houses. THeir attitude is that "It doesn't matter what the bicycling monarchies do, we have our ways and we will do things the way we want ot."
Camilla has proved ok, and I think that she's been accepted by the public as the future queen, but they consider each marriage carefully. Kate is reasonably OK, in spite of her middle class background, and her rather lazy ways, I think that they were relieved that she was scandal free, seemed to make Wm happy and ultra discreet. But someone who's job means they are in the public eye, like an actress is probably not going to be as discreet... and as an American Megan may not realy understand the Royal ways.
If she and Hary were together for 4 or 5 years, and she and he were a hapy couple, I'm sure th queen would be willing ot allow it, but they haven't.. and she's just too much IMO of an outsider for the RF to feel she's a good bet.
I think they (the Queen, the grey men at Buck house, full on monarchists etc.) may object to Harry marrying a divorcee as a first marriage. The bar is set lower for marriage #2, especially if it is unlikely/ impossible to result in children.
However, I don't think Meghan's first marriage is the main stumbling block, I think her media presence is. Meghan, or "her camp", leaked the relationship in the first place. If she had spent a year or so quietly cleaning up her reputation and then had been sprung on the world as engaged to Harry, a done deal, it would have been much better.
Meghan seems to think she can use the press to further her aims, which is a huge mistake. If she plays those games with the RF and the media she will lose. If nothing else it looks like she is woefully unprepared for royal life, which is why HM may tell Harry to wait a year or two. Time is not a Meghan's side for various reasons.
If I were to advise Meghan, I'd tell her to sit tight; stop leaking implausibly romantic stories of Christmas tree shopping and midnight dates at museums; tell her friends to shut it to the media and go about her normal business. Interest in her would fade if she just stayed quiet and did her job. And with a diminished media presence she's much more likely to get the tiara she so seems to want.
As I understand it, the RF/QUeen has now said that younger royals shodl be in a relationship for abt 5 years, and prove that it can last before she'd be happy with them getting married. So I think that youre right that time isn't on Megan's side.. if she's got to wait another few years. And I think that you're also right in saying that while the queen may tolerate a second marriage to a divorcee (Like charles') she'd prefer that if princes like Harry or William are getting married for the first time it is to an "never married" woman.
I agree too that if Meghan's "pushing" the relationship inot the public eye, (which someone whose job is actress might well do) that would also put off the RF, and their advisers...
There is no specific rule about how long royals should wait for marriage, that's just all conjecture. It was so hard for some people to believe that Prince Harry would even date Meghan. So many 'experts' saying it was just a fling. So many 'experts' said it was over in December; old or no pictures so they're no longer together.
Now people can't believe that Harry and Meg would continue to work together to release information as they want to. Harry already declared via his press office that, 'it's his life', but still some can only see an actress pushing the relationship. Meghan works and has also been supporting causes for years before she was involved with Harry. Now that she is dating PH there is more attention and also there are now other people who realise that they can capitalize on that.
there is no specific rule but it seems that the queen would prefer a couple to have given their relationship some years of testing, and i'd say that 3-5 years is a reasonable amount of time.
I doubt if Harry wants to "release information".. Royals don't as a rule..
What reputation has Meghan to 'clean up'? That she is a porn star, a drug addict, an axe murderer? It's quite insulting that because a woman is an actress she is automatically presumed to be a media ------ with minions feeding mountains of publicity to the media every day. We don't know who leaked the news of the relationship to Camilla Tominey (who first broke the story.) It could have been anyone who saw them together at Soho House in July.
Harry is pretty media savvy. He's dated for about seventeen years and I'm sure has come across plenty of users and social climbers in that time, including actresses. The idea that he would keep on dating and getting serious with a woman who just enjoys the publicity is laughable.
The Queen is said to not interfere at all with the private lives of her adult children and grandchildren. The idea that she goes around telling people in their thirties that they have to wait for five or seven years before they can wed is frankly ludicrous. Charles may well have counselled Harry to wait a year before proposing. That is all it would be though, just advice. As Richard Palmer stated about this romance--Harry's happiness will be paramount.
No, time is not on Meghan's side, if she and Harry want to have a family then they are likely to marry in the next year or two. And the Queen will give her permission.
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What reputation has Meghan to 'clean up'? That she is a porn star, a drug addict, an axe murderer? It's quite insulting that because a woman is an actress she is automatically presumed to be a media ------ with minions feeding mountains of publicity to the media every day. We don't know who leaked the news of the relationship to Camilla Tominey (who first broke the story.) It could have been anyone who saw them together at Soho House in July.
Harry is pretty media savvy. He's dated for about seventeen years and I'm sure has come across plenty of users and social climbers in that time, including actresses. The idea that he would keep on dating and getting serious with a woman who just enjoys the publicity is laughable.
The Queen is said to not interfere at all with the private lives of her adult children and grandchildren. The idea that she goes around telling people in their thirties that they have to wait for five or seven years before they can wed is frankly ludicrous. Charles may well have counselled Harry to wait a year before proposing. That is all it would be though, just advice. As Richard Palmer stated about this romance--Harry's happiness will be paramount.
No, time is not on Meghan's side, if she and Harry want to have a family then they are likely to marry in the next year or two. And the Queen will give her permission.
The queen very clearly has changed since the days of "not interfering" and just letting her children get on with whoever they chose to marry. Id say she learned bitter lessons then that she could nto just ostrich and leave tehm alone. So with the grandchildren IMO< she has been much more cautious and advised waiting and living with someone even if she probably as a Christian disapproves.
WIl and kate were a couple for several years before they got engaged.. Harry is older but has had few serious romances and is more of a thoughtless creature than Will ever was so i'd say the queen is definitely likely to adivse him to wait at least a couple of years. Its for their own good. She loves Harry and WIliam and wants them to make stable happy marriages, not like her own children did. and its for the good of the monarchy.
so I honeslty doubt if this relationship will end in marriage.
Quote from: amabel on April 01, 2017, 11:12:51 AM
there is no specific rule but it seems that the queen would prefer a couple to have given their relationship some years of testing, and i'd say that 3-5 years is a reasonable amount of time.
I doubt if Harry wants to "release information".. Royals don't as a rule..
I would say that when a couple is ready to make further commitment, they decide when is a reasonable time, as they know what is going on in their relationship.
RF and their press offices, release information whenever they want to, they have been for years. As time and also technology changes, the RF also have adapted. In more recent years, official engagement information is posted online in Court Circular. There are also preferred journalists and photographers that are sometimes used to release private information when the RF wants, example last year, Prince William and Kate went on private holiday with their children and released pictures about it, by a photographer of their choosing, when they were ready.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Queen imposes time lengths on the romances of her grandchildren. Kate waited for ever for William to propose, nearly eight years. If Harry and Meghan have to wait that long Meghan will be 44 and they would have to kiss goodbye to any thoughts of a family.
If Harry has had few serious romances William had fewer, one in fact, with a split in 2007 but otherwise stretched on and on.
Harry is no more thoughtless than his brother is and why you should doubt that this romance will be no good for the monarchy when Meghan has expressed her willingness to give up acting and she has already experience of humanitarian work, heaven knows.
Friends, Royal correspondents like Richard Palmer and others (who have contacts at KP) have described the couple as very happy and very serious about each other, which Harry himself emphasised by issuing a statement last November, so they all apparently disagree with you that this relationship won't end in marriage. We shall see.
Re: cleaning up her reputation. Now there's nothing wrong with Meghan's work, unless she wants to marry into the BRF. Since that's what she wants: she's got too many sex-scenes, too many near nude scenes, too many pics of her with her bra hanging out. Charity work: hmm, yes, but she should be digging wells and building health clinics, not holding the hands of little impoverished children while looking pretty. And preferably for an organisation that is less controversial that World Vision (which has a pretty shady reputation).
Who leaked the relationship? My money's on the woman who showcased her "Harry bracelet" on no less that five occasions on instagram in the weeks leading up to the leak. And Harry now leaking to the press? Really? Wasn't the excuse for him looking so miserable in the Jamaica photos that he hated the press? So would he really court press attention?
I think HM would tell Harry to wait if the woman he wants to marry does not seem ready to join the RF, because the happiness of her grandchildren are secondary to the stability of the monarchy to her.
Quote from: amabel on April 01, 2017, 11:27:13 AM
The queen very clearly has changed since the days of "not interfering" and just letting her children get on with whoever they chose to marry. Id say she learned bitter lessons then that she could nto just ostrich and leave tehm alone. So with the grandchildren IMO< she has been much more cautious and advised waiting and living with someone even if she probably as a Christian disapproves.
WIl and kate were a couple for several years before they got engaged.. Harry is older but has had few serious romances and is more of a thoughtless creature than Will ever was so i'd say the queen is definitely likely to adivse him to wait at least a couple of years. Its for their own good. She loves Harry and WIliam and wants them to make stable happy marriages, not like her own children did. and its for the good of the monarchy.
so I honeslty doubt if this relationship will end in marriage.
William said publicly ca. 2005 he was not ready to marry. I think William called the shots not the Queen about the wait to get engaged to Kate. Also there was a breakup in 2007.
Will can be very thoughtless. He is no saint.
Quote from: Tiddles88 on April 01, 2017, 01:33:28 PM
Re: cleaning up her reputation. Now there's nothing wrong with Meghan's work, unless she wants to marry into the BRF. Since that's what she wants: she's got too many sex-scenes, too many near nude scenes, too many pics of her with her bra hanging out. Charity work: hmm, yes, but she should be digging wells and building health clinics, not holding the hands of little impoverished children while looking pretty. And preferably for an organisation that is less controversial that World Vision (which has a pretty shady reputation).
Who leaked the relationship? My money's on the woman who showcased her "Harry bracelet" on no less that five occasions on instagram in the weeks leading up to the leak. And Harry now leaking to the press? Really? Wasn't the excuse for him looking so miserable in the Jamaica photos that he hated the press? So would he really court press attention?
I think HM would tell Harry to wait if the woman he wants to marry does not seem ready to join the RF, because the happiness of her grandchildren are secondary to the stability of the monarchy to her.
Holding a child's hand can be comforting to them, and all precious children are worthy of being comforted and attention given to them for their needs, even impoverished ones. Everyone has a part to play with charity work from the pretty people promoting the cause to the wonderful people doing other arduous hands-on work. The fact that someone does something should be respected, IMO.
Frankly, most of the time, the Royal Family gets dressed up to attend charities, so MM will fit right in with what they have been doing for years. From fancy tailored suits to designer or couture clothing and the finest jewelry, male and female members of the RF are always looking their best when visiting charities.
Ya'll I have friends that are British, there is no such rule, that Harry or anyone else has to wait 5 years to marry. Why even bother to entertain that comment? It's ridiculous! Some are just making up crap in an attempt to convince themselves that Harry won't marry Meghan that the Queen will not approve. She will not deny Harry. I don't care what you say. The most Harry will wait is a year and a half from the time they started dating and their year anniversary is fast approaching.
Meghan has publicised the plight of girls in India whose lives are made miserable by having no sanitary pads or facilities when they have their periods. Hardly looking glamorous with small children!
What charity work of any kind whatsoever did Kate do before she joined the BRF? A big fat zero! Yet she is acceptable!
As for sex and nude scenes they are par for the course in many many films and TV series now. We aren't living at the time of Grace Kelly. It's called acting and has nothing whatsoever to do with actresses' private lives. I suppose if Meghan played a prostitute or member of the demi-monde that would translate to her being like those women in real life! Absolutely ridiculous!
As for nakedness, well Kate's has been seen all over the Internet, especially when she chose to strip on a balcony on holiday and when she's been to windy airports. Also topless on holiday with William before she was married. And yet she's considered worthy of being a future Queen Consort!
Meghan has said nothing, given no interviews about Harry or the relationship. She hasn't even spoken about him to fellow cast members. She was certainly pilloried for putting two spooning bananas and an elephant jigsaw on her social media. How evil! What a fame .....! Wearing bead bracelets! Wow, she's beyond the pale!
Yes, because she's an actress, she hungers for fame and every single thing that has come out about the romance has come from her! And Harry, who is both media savvy and used to social climbers of all sorts, of course suspects nothing! She must be the greatest actress who ever lived if for nearly a year she has fooled him who knows her intimately!
Your money might be on Meghan but there's absolutely no proof whatsoever that you are correct.
And, as Richard Palmer has put it, to Harry's family his happiness is paramount. If he wants to marry her he will. If he wants to propose to Meghan in the next few weeks or months he will. And when he asks his grandmother for permission she'll say yes. The stability of the BRF doesn't rest with Harry's choice of wife anyway even though I believe Meghan will be a credit to them as a Duchess.
This isn't about Kate, her charity or her nudity, it about Meghan's. And it's not about how I see Meghan. It's about how Harry's 90 year old granny, who has always put the country and the monarchy first, might see it.
No, I don't know that Meghan leaked the relationship, but she sure as hell wasn't trying very hard to hide it. No, I don't know what Harry thinks of the leaks, but he wouldn't be the first man to be thinking with the little head, rather than the big one.
I liked the article she wrote about menstruation, it was very good, and certainly a step up from posing with smiling children, which smacked so hard of self-promotion I'm surprised she didn't find herself concussed.
Whatever rules HM has in place for the marriage of senior royals are most likely between her and her senior advisers. I grew up a hop, skip and a jump from KP, my best friend's mother was on the staff of Charles and Diana, and I know nothing. We're all just speculating here and unless someone wants to own up to being a royal/ royal insider, my speculation isn't inferior to anyone else's.
I dont think that it beggars belief that the queen is now more likely to keep an eye on her grandchildren and to try and ensure, for their sake and for that of the country, that they make good and stable marraiges. So I would quite believe that she has said that young couples should spend a few years together before they approach the ponit of getting married. and after Charles unhappy first marriage he would probably say the same thing that he would want his sons to live with their girlfriends and get to know them well before they marry...
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Quote from: Curryong on April 01, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Queen imposes time lengths on the romances of her grandchildren. Kate waited for ever for William to propose, nearly eight years. If Harry and Meghan have to wait that long Meghan will be 44 and they would have to kiss goodbye to any thoughts of a family.
If Harry has had few serious romances William had fewer, one in fact, with a split in 2007 but otherwise stretched on and on.
Harry is no more thoughtless than his brother is and why you should doubt that this romance will be no good for the monarchy when Meghan has expressed her willingness to give up acting and she has already experience of humanitarian work, heaven knows.
well its nothing to me, if Meghan is kept waitig for 3or 4 years - or doesn't have children. I don't think she's likely to be an assiet to the monarchy.. Kate's nothing great and she ISNT into a career and is enlgish and knows a certain amount aobout the RF. I don't believe that Harry is all that serious about her- I think that at heart, Harry does not want to get married htat badly.. and that while he's a nice guy and treats his girlfriends well enough, while they are around and stays firnedly with tehm afterwards, he's not the marrying kind
^^ Last year, Harry has already said, in interviews on television, that he would like to marry and have children. I'm sure he knows himself better than random people just gossiping about his life on the internet.
Quote from: amabel on April 01, 2017, 05:49:51 PM
I dont think that it beggars belief that the queen is now more likely to keep an eye on her grandchildren and to try and ensure, for their sake and for that of the country, that they make good and stable marraiges. So I would quite believe that she has said that young couples should spend a few years together before they approach the ponit of getting married. and after Charles unhappy first marriage he would probably say the same thing that he would want his sons to live with their girlfriends and get to know them well before they marry...
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Charles is not one to dispense marital advice.
Quote from: Curryong on April 01, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Queen imposes time lengths on the romances of her grandchildren. Kate waited for ever for William to propose, nearly eight years. If Harry and Meghan have to wait that long Meghan will be 44 and they would have to kiss goodbye to any thoughts of a family.
If Harry has had few serious romances William had fewer, one in fact, with a split in 2007 but otherwise stretched on and on.
Harry is no more thoughtless than his brother is and why you should doubt that this romance will be no good for the monarchy when Meghan has expressed her willingness to give up acting and she has already experience of humanitarian work, heaven knows.
well its nothing to me, if Meghan is kept waitig for 3or 4 years - or doesn't have children. I don't think she's likely to be an assiet to the monarchy.. Kate's nothing great and she ISNT into a career and is enlgish and knows a certain amount aobout the RF. I don't believe that Harry is all that serious about her- I think that at heart, Harry does not want to get married htat badly.. and that while he's a nice guy and treats his girlfriends well enough, while they are around and stays firnedly with tehm afterwards, he's not the marrying kind
Quote from: amabel on April 01, 2017, 05:49:51 PM
I dont think that it beggars belief that the queen is now more likely to keep an eye on her grandchildren and to try and ensure, for their sake and for that of the country, that they make good and stable marraiges. So I would quite believe that she has said that young couples should spend a few years together before they approach the ponit of getting married. and after Charles unhappy first marriage he would probably say the same thing that he would want his sons to live with their girlfriends and get to know them well before they marry...
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Quote from: Curryong on April 01, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Queen imposes time lengths on the romances of her grandchildren. Kate waited for ever for William to propose, nearly eight years. If Harry and Meghan have to wait that long Meghan will be 44 and they would have to kiss goodbye to any thoughts of a family.
If Harry has had few serious romances William had fewer, one in fact, with a split in 2007 but otherwise stretched on and on.
Harry is no more thoughtless than his brother is and why you should doubt that this romance will be no good for the monarchy when Meghan has expressed her willingness to give up acting and she has already experience of humanitarian work, heaven knows.
well its nothing to me, if Meghan is kept waitig for 3or 4 years - or doesn't have children. I don't think she's likely to be an assiet to the monarchy.. Kate's nothing great and she ISNT into a career and is enlgish and knows a certain amount aobout the RF. I don't believe that Harry is all that serious about her- I think that at heart, Harry does not want to get married htat badly.. and that while he's a nice guy and treats his girlfriends well enough, while they are around and stays firnedly with tehm afterwards, he's not the marrying kind
And exactly who are you to determine who is right for Harry and who is an asset to the monarchy or not?
^ amabel, it may not matter to you how many years Meghan waits to be married. However, I'm sure it's of importance to both Harry and Meghan, nor do I think the Queen would insist on her grandson waiting while his girlfriend's childbearing years go by into her forties.
All we have to go on as far as Harry's wish to get married and have a family are concerned are quite a few interviews he's given since his early twenties in which he's expressed his longing for a family. Unless he's lying through his back teeth (don't think so) then he does want to settle down with a wife and children.
As for not knowing anything about Britain, Meghan has visited the UK many times and has lived with Harry at KP in Nottingham Cottage. It beggars belief that during that time they didn't go to see Harry's brother William and sister in law Kate when they stayed at Apartment IA for Royal engagements. I also believe that Meghan has been told by Harry about life in the BRF.
If the royal families concerned had the same belief system as you, that foreigners were no good for the country or Royal House, then Crown Princess Mary of Denmark (Australian, had to learn the language) Queen Maxima of the Netherlands (Argentinian, had to learn the language) Queen Sylvia of Sweden (German-Brazilian, had to learn the language) Grand Duchess Marie Theresa of Luxembourg (Brazilian, had to learn the language) Charlene of Monaco (South African, has to learn the language) and Princess Grace of Monaco (American, had to become proficient in French) would not have been able to be married. These were all commoners and all adjusted to life in their adopted country. At least Meghan speaks the same language as Harry!
well of course it doesn't matter to me whether they have children or not. why should it?
as for the queen I think she' thinks long term nad will want to ensure that Harry makes a marriage that is happy and lasting..
she does not want any more divorces.
there's a lto of difference between living in a country and visiting it.
as for the other countries, I don't care who their royals marry, but I think that the brtisih are more insular and its possible that a foreign woman marrying a senior royal wont go down well with ethter the RF or the public.
As for Harry I think he may on one level "want a family " (and he's harldly likely to say no he doesn't want one), but I don't think he's relaly that keen to give up his freedom. He may marry but I suspect it wont be for a while yet. If he were really red hot eager have children, he'd problaby have settled and got married by now.
IMO, Harry seems happy and might have found the person he wants to marry and start a family. The Queen married a foreigner, 70 years later, I'd say that it has worked out well for her and RF.
Philp wasn't "a foreigner". he was a foreign prince, who was related to the queen, anad part of the extended RF. Even so, some British royals and courtiers did not like him. but up to WWI, royals usually married other royals which meant marrying foregn princes/princesses. Different ot a senior royal marrying a citizen of another country, who probably has little real knowledge of the UK or the duties of a princess.
Harry may be happy, but that doesn't mean that he has found the person he wants to marry
Quote from: amabel on April 02, 2017, 03:50:07 PM
Philp wasn't "a foreigner". he was a foreign prince,
Not the correct sort of "Foreigner" then
@amabel ?
Just the *Royal* foreigners allowed?
Quote from: amabel on April 02, 2017, 03:50:07 PM
Philp wasn't "a foreigner". he was a foreign prince, who was related to the queen, anad part of the extended RF. Even so, some British royals and courtiers did not like him. but up to WWI, royals usually married other royals which meant marrying foregn princes/princesses. Different ot a senior royal marrying a citizen of another country, who probably has little real knowledge of the UK or the duties of a princess.
Harry may be happy, but that doesn't mean that he has found the person he wants to marry
In Phillip's case he spent nearly half of his lifetime in the UK by the time he proposed to Elizabeth. He had British family members (mother, maternal relatives), spoke the language, was educated in a British school, and served in the British navy. He was probably the "foreign" non-Catholic prince who understood the UK and the BRF better than any other eligible prince at that time. However it has been reported that QEQM and Queen Mary would have been happier if Elizabeth had married someone from the British aristocracy.
Quote from: TLLK on April 02, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
Quote from: amabel on April 02, 2017, 03:50:07 PM
Philp wasn't "a foreigner". he was a foreign prince, who was related to the queen, anad part of the extended RF. Even so, some British royals and courtiers did not like him. but up to WWI, royals usually married other royals which meant marrying foregn princes/princesses. Different ot a senior royal marrying a citizen of another country, who probably has little real knowledge of the UK or the duties of a princess.
Harry may be happy, but that doesn't mean that he has found the person he wants to marry
In Phillip's case he spent nearly half of his lifetime in the UK by the time he proposed to Elizabeth. He had British family members (mother, maternal relatives), spoke the language, was educated in a British school, and served in the British .
Exactly, as I recall he became a British subject, and had served in the B Navy.. and was well aware of what Britian was like and what the RF was like. Hardly the same as someone who's spent a few holidays here..
^^ Unlike the ones that live here and pay taxes to make/made this Country function?
Another example of the *vagina* lottery!
Phillip is Greek. He was born and raised in Greece. (I think)
^^^Phillip had Greek citizen ship but was of mostly German descent. He was born on the island of Corfu but the family was forced to flee Greece shortly afterward. He has stated that he doesn't speak Greek but understands a little of it. During his childhood he lived in France, Germany and finally the UK. His parents had separated when he was very young and he lived with various relatives and his older sisters' families. His maternal grandfather had become a naturalized British citizen and had renounced his old German titles. The founder of his boarding school in Germany was forced to leave because he was Jewish and founded a new school in Scotland. Phillip attended Gordonstoun and later joined the British navy. It was during his training for the Royal Navy that he met Princess Elizabeth. He later renounced his Greek titles to become Lt. Phillip Mountbatten.
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Quote from: amabel on April 02, 2017, 09:00:35 PM
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Quote from: amabel on April 02, 2017, 03:50:07 PM
Philp wasn't "a foreigner". he was a foreign prince, who was related to the queen, anad part of the extended RF. Even so, some British royals and courtiers did not like him. but up to WWI, royals usually married other royals which meant marrying foregn princes/princesses. Different ot a senior royal marrying a citizen of another country, who probably has little real knowledge of the UK or the duties of a princess.
Harry may be happy, but that doesn't mean that he has found the person he wants to marry
In Phillip's case he spent nearly half of his lifetime in the UK by the time he proposed to Elizabeth. He had British family members (mother, maternal relatives), spoke the language, was educated in a British school, and served in the British .
Exactly, as I recall he became a British subject, and had served in the B Navy.. and was well aware of what Britian was like and what the RF was like. Hardly the same as someone who's spent a few holidays here..
Yes he had hardly any connection to Greece considering that he was only a few months old when the family had to flee. His childhood was spent in France and Germany, but his formative years were spent in the UK.
Anyhow back to Meghan I doubt that her American background should be an issue. There are Canadian, Austrian and Danish ladies who married into the BRF throughout the years without any real problems.
Quote from: SophieChloe on April 02, 2017, 09:58:46 PM
^^ Unlike the ones that live here and pay taxes to make/made this Country function?
Another example of the *vagina* lottery!
He may not have been a foreigner when he married Liz, but someone like him wouldn't be welcome in today's Britain.
Quote from: Yale on April 02, 2017, 11:44:47 PM
Phillip is Greek. He was born and raised in Greece. (I think)
No Greek blood whatsoever, as far as I know
I am tired of this situation being compared to C&C situation ... apples and oranges ... Chuck had been with Cam all his adult life by the time they got married and she was (no matter what some thing of her) an upper class British woman who had been around the Royals and shared their interests that is why she blended extraordinarily well with them ... she isn't a woman who leaked her relationship with Prince Dim through her PR and Instagram and brought in lawyers and drama from Day one of her relationship to keep her man's attention ... she had Chuck's attention alright ... and doesn't have videos like Megan has around the internet ... the fact that the same people who crucified Cressida for God knows what reason think this middle aged divorce would be a good addition to the RF is mind blowing :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: ... to answer the question I was asked ... I think Chelsy is a good idea and I truly believe the two will eventually find each other again latter in life and will eventually marry ... SHE is his Cam for sure ...
Keep banging your head Eri and hopefully you will see the light. :eureka!: Charles was able to marry Camilla and Harry will be able to marry Meghan if that is what he desires.
Quote from: Eri on April 03, 2017, 10:02:42 AM
I am tired of this situation being compared to C&C situation ... apples and oranges ... Chuck had been with Cam all his adult life by the time they got married and she was (no matter what some thing of her) an upper class British woman who had been around the Royals and shared their interests that is why she blended extraordinarily well with them ... she isn't a woman who leaked her relationship with Prince Dim through her PR and Instagram and brought in lawyers and drama from Day one of her relationship to keep her man's attention ... she had Chuck's attention alright ... and doesn't have videos like Megan has around the internet ... the fact that the same people who crucified Cressida for God knows what reason think this middle aged divorce would be a good addition to the RF is mind blowing :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: ... to answer the question I was asked ... I think Chelsy is a good idea and I truly believe the two will eventually find each other again latter in life and will eventually marry ... SHE is his Cam for sure ...
She was his mistress and a married mistress for years. Meghan is a divorcee and dating Harry. She was never the other woman.
Quote from: amabel on April 03, 2017, 05:39:32 AM
Quote from: Yale on April 02, 2017, 11:44:47 PM
Phillip is Greek. He was born and raised in Greece. (I think)
No Greek blood whatsoever, as far as I know
No his ethnicity is mostly German.
Being a divorce is the least of her issues ... that is not why the majority including her own sister dislike her and she has tanked Prince Dim's popularity ... I gotta laugh at those who think I would have issues with this marriage ... I say bring it on ... Harry deserves every thing that will happen to him ... it's Liz I feel sorry about ...
Quote from: TLLK on April 03, 2017, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: amabel on April 03, 2017, 05:39:32 AM
Quote from: Yale on April 02, 2017, 11:44:47 PM
Phillip is Greek. He was born and raised in Greece. (I think)
No Greek blood whatsoever, as far as I know
No his ethnicity is mostly German.
of course. And it was a hell of a long time ago, when Mostly Royals still married each other, so they were simultenously foreigners but usually related. So Philip knew the score about being Royal, he knew England well . Even so, many of the RF didn't take to him or the courters.
I think that a foreigner, not of royal birth, marryring into the senior royal family now, would have a hard time of it...
Quote from: tiaras on April 03, 2017, 04:23:03 AM
Quote from: SophieChloe on April 02, 2017, 09:58:46 PM
^^ Unlike the ones that live here and pay taxes to make/made this Country function?
Another example of the *vagina* lottery!
He may not have been a foreigner when he married Liz, but someone like him wouldn't be welcome in today's Britain.
^ Sadly.
I'm disgusted by my Country at the moment. Farage and his ilk have a lot to answer for.
Like Donald Trump, Meghan has exposed our society in all its nakedness. We can no longer claim to be morally superior or even particularly tolerant. As far as I am concerned; the moment someone gets legal citizenship they cease to be a foreigner. To call them so is a tad unkind and rather illogical. Speaking of the Germanic Windsors and Phil the Greek doesn't make sense for people who have been in this country for nearly a century.
Good God its a nickname. PHilip IS a foreigner in that he's mostly german and Danish In blood and was born in Greece...
I know it is a nickname. Just like "big ears" but when you really think about those names, they do not say good things about the people that coined them.
BTW virtually everyone in Britain today is foreign if we strictly follow bloodlines. People come and go.
^ Speechless ... there are no special qualities to this publicity seeking nightmare ... his past girlfriends like Chelsy , Flee and Cressida are all better looking than her and would have made better Royals compared to this woman ... too bad none was as desperate as Megan is ... maybe Chelsy ... one Day ...
^ Without getting into an argument about something that has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand I was just illustrating the differences between Cam and Megan and why the first blended in perfectly with the Royals while the latter wouldn't that is all ... please don't make this about things that happened 30 + years ago ... no one cares ... The Royal family is a very difficult set up to marry into and even Di and Sarah who grew up around them didn't survive ... Kate who chased after it :Jen: for a decade seems to have the same difficulties with one difference ... a very pushy family who will help her cope whenever it gets too much for her for their own gain ... I can't see Megan last one Day in that environment ...
How do you know how Meghan will do as a royal? You forget that Camilla (whom I did not bring up on the thread but responded to someone else) had to wait 8 years after Diana's death and a few years after the Queen Mother's to marry into that family. The Queen Mum would not welcome her with open arms. I would not say Camilla is the most popular royal ever to put it gently. Just because Harry did not marry one of the "younger blondes" does not mean Meghan will be a flop.
Quote from: Eri on April 04, 2017, 10:47:39 AM
^ Speechless ... there are no special qualities to this publicity seeking nightmare ... his past girlfriends like Chelsy , Flee and Cressida are all better looking than her and would have made better Royals compared to this woman ... too bad none was as desperate as Megan is ... maybe Chelsy ... one Day ...
Publicity seeking... :lol: she's doing it all wrong then.If she was desperate or publicity seeking like you said,I was/am expecting her to be papped everywhere she goes,posting regularly on her Instagram.She's doing the opposite of that and also beauty is in the eye of the beholder,in my opinion,she's Harry's best looking gf.You keep wishing for Chelsy and Harry to the back together even though its obvious she isnt interested and neither is he.If they were, they would have when he was single,they didn't
If Meghan and Harry marry I think she could hold her own. No one can survive the ups and down of Hollywood if they aren't strong minded and tough enough to realize the pros and cons of the game. Meghan would be a great duchess if they got married .She has been doing charity work before she meet Harry. Whereas Kate has never had to face the ups and downs of being an fully working adult that why she is having a difficult adjusting to her royal duties unlike Meghan who knows .
Ha ha. You people are too funny :teehee: :lol: How Camilla has entered into the Meghan saga is beyond me. Perhaps we can also blame her for the Syrian chemical weapons.
As far as engagement rings go, I've always thought Harry's fiancée might choose rubies as a contrast to Kate's Big Blue. If Meghan is The One then I hope for emeralds actually, as I think she would suit them. Previous generations ie the Queen, Queen Mother, seemed to go for solitaire diamonds in their engagement rings. I have nothing against diamonds at all (open to offers here!) but love colour, so that would be my preference.
Years ago I saw a photo of a foreign royal's engagement ring that I loved. (Can't remember the woman in question.) It consisted of a string of small heart shaped rubies chasing each other around the gold ring, with tiny diamonds in between. Unusual and very pretty.
From the ROoSS archieves: Here are the ruby engagement rings.
@Curryong-I think you described the one that belongs to the Princess Clothilde of Savoy.
The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Flashback Friday: Royal Engagement Rings (http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2010/06/flashback-friday-royal-engagement-rings.html) (Scroll down a tad to see the ruby ones.)
I would love to see another ruby engagement ring! There have been some exquisite ones through the years.
^ Thank you TLLK. I guess that is it. However, I could have sworn I saw a ring with lots of ruby hearts chasing each other. Anyway, ruby or emerald (maybe emeralds are considered unlucky as engagement rings, there don't seem to be many of them,) I'm hoping for something gorgeous and unusual!
Like I said before. I am waiting to see more about Meghan before making my mind about her. At the moment I do not really know much about her but I gather many British people are not particularly enamored by the match. Harry seems serious enough with an announcement to the press to protect her but I have long learnt not to trust the press with the truth so everything with a pinch of salt.
Re the engagement ring. I think Ruby would actually look nice on Meghan. Diamonds have been done and done and done. It is good to try something else IMO. BTW just saw that pink diamond they sold for 77m. Frankly speaking, I saw nothing in it to merit such a price. Maybe for jewels, beauty is in the eyes of the purchaser.
Quote from: Curryong on April 06, 2017, 01:06:39 AM
^ Thank you TLLK. I guess that is it. However, I could have sworn I saw a ring with lots of ruby hearts chasing each other. Anyway, ruby or emerald (maybe emeralds are considered unlucky as engagement rings, there don't seem to be many of them,) I'm hoping for something gorgeous and unusual!
I had not know that emeralds were considered unlucky so that would explain why they seem to be rare among Western engagement rings. I wonder if an orange or yellow diamond might be a choice for a royal bride? Maxima is the only one that I know of that has an orange diamond though. With Meghan's coloring I think a yellow diamond might be lovely , but she might find it rather limiting.
Yes of course Emeralds re unlucky because they are green. So are opals unless they are your birth stone.And if Meghan were to marry Harry(not htat she will) she'll need all the luck she can get).
Le sight ... again C&C had no matter what some think of it a 40 + years long relationship when they got married it was clear she wasn't going anywhere ... no one in Liz's inner circle is that far gone to let a divorcee who just last Year was in a CIVIL UNION and was LIVING with another man and has pictures and videos like the ones Megan has on the Internet ... not that anyone that counts is giving this a second thought ... she will be gone pretty soon ... all it will take is for one of those girls I am sure Harry is texting to actually answer ... anyone who knows anything about Harry knows what I am saying is true ... this is amazing ... it's like some didn't see the man grow up and don't "know" him ... he gets bored pretty easily and as many children of divorced parents seems very weary about marriage ... he won't marry someone he meet last July ...
Camilla was in a marriage with another man (with children) while she was sleeping with Charles. (By the way they didn't have a 40year+ relationship when they wed. That would have meant the relationship began in the mid 1960s when they were teenagers.)
Meghan was in a defacto relationship with Cory the chef which ended (according to the Toronto Star) in May last year. She saw Harry in the June at Soho House and the relationship deepened in July. Lots of people have that sort of dating history and maybe Harry and Meghan will end up married for forty years, unlike his father with his disastrous first marriage.
Or maybe it wotn. I don't believe that she'll be acceptable to the RF...
Why won't Meghan be acceptable to the BRF, which already has four divorcees in its senior ranks?
^^ Yes, Prince Charles, the heir to the throne, who actually will be king is onto his second marriage to a previously divorced woman. However, it is convenient for some people to ignore that fact and just keep harping about MM being divorced.
Princess Anne remarried in Scotland as well. And no big fuss was made about her being a divorced woman.
Megan has more issues than Vouge that have nothing to do with her being divorced ... it is rumored both Chelsy and Cressida were pushed away because they didn't hold up to very important occasions Chelsy looking like a pure mess at Will's wedding Cessida at WE Day were it was clear people that count were watching ... now imagine how those same people feel about Megan's pictures and that scene in the Beverly Hulls reboot :coy: ... no way this woman will be allowed anywhere near the Balcony ... like no way ...
Quote from: Curryong on April 06, 2017, 09:33:43 AM
Why won't Meghan be acceptable to the BRF, which already has four divorcees in its senior ranks?
Because she's American, she's a career girl and an actress to boot, has a divorce, probably knows nothing bout the RF or UK, and seems to have some controversial relatives...
Amabel, Kate's uncle Gary at Villa Bang Bang was also controversial and Kate has a stripper cousin who performed an act with a crown. Everyone knows that Samantha Grant (a half-sister Meghan has met once in the last 23 years) has mental issues. As for being an actress, that certainly won't stop Meghan marrying Harry. Why should it? It's a profession like any other. She has her own money, quite a lot apparently. I've read she's worth around $7 million, more than Kate's ever earned.
She is American, why is that an objection, she's no Wallis Simpson. She's divorced yes, like four senior members of the BRF.
Meghan has lived in Canada, a Commonwealth country for a long time, has visited the UK several times and has stayed for weeks at KP with Harry, where she has probably met William and Kate. So she does know about Britain and the BRF.
Oh, for heaven's sake Eri, Meghan was lying on a European beach (where going topless is considered perfectly natural) while she was on holiday. Kate and Pippa have both been photographed topless while they were on holiday as well. Anyone would think Meghan had posed for photos for men's magazines. Those ones that Radar pretended were her were fakes.
As for the silly Beverley Hills tv episode it was on commercial television and didn't show anything anyway. It wasn't *** by a long shot and there are plenty of actresses that have been in worse scenes. I remember years ago a naked Glenda Jackson (an extremely fine actress) was in a simulated sex scene that caused a stir as it was the first on screen in the commercial cinema. Meghan's is nothing to it.
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Oh, for heaven's sake, Meghan was lying on a European beach (where going topless is considered perfectly natural) while she was on holiday. Kate and Pippa have both been photographed topless while they were on holiday as well. Anyone would think Meghan had posed for photos for men's magazines. Those ones that Radar pretended were her were fakes.
As for the silly Beverley Hills tv episode it was on commercial television and didn't show anything anyway. It wasn't porn by a long shot and there are plenty of actresses that have been in worse scenes. I remember years ago a naked Glenda Jackson (an extremely fine actress) was in a simulated sex scene that caused a stir as it was the first on screen in the commercial cinema. Meghan's is nothing to it.
Harry is dating Meghan and it is more serious than ever from what I just read . All of this debating back and forth won't change a thing. Even if Harry knew, it would not impact Harry's choice. Do you really think he cares that you
@amabel and
@Eri object or why?
^ Harry's funeral ... I don't care ... what I do care is he doesn't damage the RF with his choices ... his future is settled ... he will be nothing more nothing less than just another Andrew ... all he could do if he was smart is marry a Sophie type to compliment him and blend well within the RF family he had that with Cressida and even Flee but he blew those options and that is why he is desperate enough to be stuck with this middle age divorce and her problematic family ... someone Leonardo Di Caprio or Ben Affleck wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole because unlike Harry they have talent , a job and REAL money so they have options ... it's quite sad if you think about really ... Harry doesn't ... not even a 23 years old Cressida type will date him and will go for a man with a real carer and real money ... which is what got Harry into this mess in the first place ... the much younger more attractive brunette he REALLY wanted didn't return his calls anymore ... never forget:
Prince Harry secretly dated English model while wooing Meghan Markle | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3908986/Harry-SECOND-hottie-Prince-secretly-dated-English-model-wooing-American-actress-Meghan-Markle-don-t-look-alike.html)
Prince Harry 'was secretly dating David Gandy's ex Sarah Ann Macklin while wooing American actress Meghan Markle' (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2125412/prince-harry-was-secretly-dating-david-gandys-ex-sarah-ann-macklin-while-wooing-american-actress-meghan-markle/)
I don't see how Flee and Cressida are superior to Meghan. They had their own PR buzz going so if you knock Meghan for it, why not complain about them too. In any case Cressida and Harry are over and have been for some time now. Harry has to select his own wife and he can't be talked into "taking Cressida back." Maybe she would not go back in all probability. Again, Meghan is not Middle aged unless there is a time warp going on and we are back in the days of Henry VIII.
Why trash Harry because he did not choose Cressida? Would you have praised him if he had? I wonder...
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Quote from: Eri on April 06, 2017, 11:38:55 AM
Megan has more issues than Vouge that have nothing to do with her being divorced ... it is rumored both Chelsy and Cressida were pushed away because they didn't hold up to very important occasions Chelsy looking like a pure mess at Will's wedding Cessida at WE Day were it was clear people that count were watching ... now imagine how those same people feel about Megan's pictures and that scene in the Beverly Hulls reboot :coy: ... no way this woman will be allowed anywhere near the Balcony ... like no way ...
Chelsy did not look like a mess. She dressed like the other young women her age did. Bea and Eugenie were the most outlandish however. Chelsy did not want to marry Harry. Why knock Chelsy. While we are at it, Cressida showed up looking sloppy but she was praised as being a wonderful dresser. I guess it depends who one likes better. Now Chelsy is being tossed under a bus. Too bad.
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Quote from: Curryong on April 06, 2017, 12:32:04 PM
Amabel, Kate's uncle Gary at Villa Bang Bang was also controversial and Kate has a stripper cousin who performed an act with a crown. Everyone knows that Samantha Grant (a half-sister Meghan has met once in the last 23 years) has mental issues. As for being an actress, that certainly won't stop Meghan marrying Harry. Why should it? It's a profession like any other. She has her own money, quite a lot apparently. I've read she's worth around $7 million, more than Kate's ever earned.
She is American, why is that an objection, she's no Wallis Simpson. She's divorced yes, like four senior members of the BRF.
Meghan has lived in Canada, a Commonwealth country for a long time, has visited the UK several times and has stayed for weeks at KP with Harry, where she has probably met William and Kate. So she does know about Britain and the BRF.
Oh, for heaven's sake Eri, Meghan was lying on a European beach (where going topless is considered perfectly natural) while she was on holiday. Kate and Pippa have both been photographed topless while they were on holiday as well. Anyone would think Meghan had posed for photos for men's magazines. Those ones that Radar pretended were her were fakes.
As for the silly Beverley Hills tv episode it was on commercial television and didn't show anything anyway. It wasn't *** by a long shot and there are plenty of actresses that have been in worse scenes. I remember years ago a naked Glenda Jackson (an extremely fine actress) was in a simulated sex scene that caused a stir as it was the first on screen in the commercial cinema. Meghan's is nothing to it.
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Oh, for heaven's sake, Meghan was lying on a European beach (where going topless is considered perfectly natural) while she was on holiday. Kate and Pippa have both been photographed topless while they were on holiday as well. Anyone would think Meghan had posed for photos for men's magazines. Those ones that Radar pretended were her were fakes.
As for the silly Beverley Hills tv episode it was on commercial television and didn't show anything anyway. It wasn't *** by a long shot and there are plenty of actresses that have been in worse scenes. I remember years ago a naked Glenda Jackson (an extremely fine actress) was in a simulated sex scene that caused a stir as it was the first on screen in the commercial cinema. Meghan's is nothing to it.
the iconic actress Meryl streep had nude scenes. And she's not bashed and trashed. Meghan can't win with some
Quote from: Yale on April 06, 2017, 03:08:44 PM
Harry is dating Meghan and it is more serious than ever from what I just read . All of this debating back and forth won't change a thing. Even if Harry knew, it would not impact Harry's choice. Do you really think he cares that you @amabel and @Eri object or why?
Do you really think that I care what Harry thinks? Or anyone else come to that?
Ya know sometimes I wish Harry would log on here and tell certain ones to stay the so and so out of his business or personal life!
@ Yale I have to agree with you. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks about Meghan other than Harry. No matter who Harry dates or marries is going to liked by everybody and it doesn't matter Harry is unlikely to be King so his choice of a wife is his business and his alone.
@Curryong Sure Jamie Dornan and Dakota Johnson do those Fifty Shades movies but they are not trying to be Royal ... Megan is ... they also do other movies and people go "sure they do those movies but they do have acting chops" I can't say the same for Megan ...
Quote from: Trudie on April 06, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
@ Yale I have to agree with you. It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks about Meghan other than Harry. No matter who Harry dates or marries is going to liked by everybody and it doesn't matter Harry is unlikely to be King so his choice of a wife is his business and his alone.
@Trudie-I agree. As long as they are faithful, supportive and loving partners in marriage then I don't see what the issue is regarding Harry and Meghan.
Quote from: Eri on April 06, 2017, 09:33:14 PM
@Curryong Sure Jamie Dornan and Dakota Johnson do those Fifty Shades movies but they are not trying to be Royal ... Megan is ... they also do other movies and people go "sure they do those movies but they do have acting chops" I can't say the same for Megan ...
and you know Meghan is how? <_< People went to see the movie because of the books not because of the actors who were mediocre at best
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Quote from: Eri on April 06, 2017, 09:33:14 PM
@Curryong Sure Jamie Dornan and Dakota Johnson do those Fifty Shades movies but they are not trying to be Royal ... Megan is ... they also do other movies and people go "sure they do those movies but they do have acting chops" I can't say the same for Megan ...
How can Meghan "try to be royal" all by herself. Harry is interested in her and they are still together. It is up to them. It is amazing how women are trashed to bolster royal men. Harry wants to be with her.
Meghan has just shut down the Tig. Hmmm....
Meghan Markle Is Shutting Down Her Lifestyle Website, The Tig (http://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-is-shutting-down-her-lifestyle-website-the-tig-its-time-to-say-goodbye/)
Meghan's closing The Tig is a significant move I think. If it had been done for taxation purposes or because she was tired of it I think she would have left an archive and the message wouldn't have been so sudden. She's done the same with her IG so I think something's up.
Quote from: Curryong on April 07, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Meghan's closing The Tig is a significant move I think. If it had been done for taxation purposes or because she was tired of it I think she would have left an archive and the message wouldn't have been so sudden. She's done the same with her IG so I think something's up.
I posted about this on the "About Meghan board. I thinking the two are taking the necessary steps to plan their future together.
Good for them both! According to the new insiders news is they are waiting for after pipa wedding to announce their news.
I saw new photo of them from last weeks or so at a French website called parismatch,
the photo look like it was taken in country side not just because of their outfits they had on but the surrounding look different from. Cute photo both seem happy. It must be from their country romantic weekend getaway. Sadly those photo are only allowed to be printed in France not here in the U.K.
You can go to the website to view if those photo are still on site.
Quote from: Yale on April 06, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
Ya know sometimes I wish Harry would log on here and tell certain ones to stay the so and so out of his business or personal life!
As a public figure his personal life is bound to be commented on by the public.. and I feel I'm quite entitled to comment on it..
Now that she has closed the Tig site, I'm sure they'll announce their engagement soon, the relationship must be very serious. What happiness !!! :flower: :flower: :hug: :hug: :crazylove: :cloud9: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :D
Quote from: Cat00 on April 08, 2017, 06:40:11 PM
Now that she has closed the Tig site, I'm sure they'll announce their engagement soon, the relationship must be very serious. What happiness !!! :flower: :flower: :hug: :hug: :crazylove: :cloud9: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :D
why it is a serious relationship because she closes a site? tere coud be numerous reasons for her doing so.
There could be other reasons for closing The Tig other than a run-up to a Royal engagement. It could be for taxation reasons or because Meghan has grown tired of it and/or is sick of dealing with the media trolls who have hung around the site in attack mode since last October/November.
However, closing it is a big deal. It has been said that The Tig, because of its promotions, used to earn Meghan the equivalent of $100,000 a year. That's a very useful addition to her salary.
What is more significant IMO (and, besides Harry's statement in November) is the scarcity of new posts on The Tig since last year and on her social media in general including her IG. She hasn't even left an archive on The Tig, which is highly unusual in these cases.
Discretion is the first thing demanded of a Royal girlfriend. In spite of assertions otherwise, Meghan herself has done nothing, said nothing since the romance became serious, even in the face of provocations from half-siblings, trolls and the DM. It's for these reasons and others that people watching this romance unfold regard The Tig closing as a marker along the road to an engagement.
How much money does she NEED? I don't know what this "Tig" is.. but perhaps her closing it is an attempt at discretion. I'd say it sounds more likely that she's fed up with the unpleasant interest it is apparnelty getting.
You probably made mistake, no such photo, if existed, would be all over internet ... sorry
I don't see why she would close her blog if they are engaged ... it doesn't make sense since it's the least controversial thing about her and it makes it look like she has an income ... she wouldn't want to be seen as just another useless person in their mid 30's wanting to live off the British tax payer's money ... Kate is forgiven for it because she is George's mother ... Megan will never have that luxury ... anyways ... wake me up when she leaves Toronto and Suits ... then we would have something to talk about ...
It makes perfect sense to MM to shut down her blog so that is what is more important. I found her blog lovely. However, the tabloids found her blog to be a source of income by creating click bait articles. Last week alone, the DFail misused at least 3 posts from her blog to make up fake articles. It didn't matter if what she posted was 3 years ago, the DFail made headlines look like she had just written it.
She closed the Tig because:
a) the rehabilitation of Meghan Markle has begun. She will no longer be associated with frivolous things. First goes the Tig, next (after Suits has finished filming) the acting career. She'll focus on charity work, maybe even get a paid job in a charity. Slowly the internet will be scrubbed of references to her previous life. And then... :king: The engagement between HRH Prince Henry of Wales and Ms Meghan Markle, of the Wellcome Trust (or whatever charity), will be announced. Most people will not remember connect her to "that actress Harry used to date".
-OR-
b) Harry and Meghan have split, with no chance of them ever getting back together. There will be no statement, but sooner or later Harry will be seen with another woman and the world will know. Meghan is bracing herself for it and withdrawing from social media for a while until people start to forget about her and Harry. Once Harry is coupled up with someone else and the dust have settled, she'll resurface with a new blog. Most people will not remember that Harry once dated an actress.
I don't know why Meghan did it, but I'm sad the Tig closed up shop didn't leave an archive, there were loads of recipes there I wanted to try :no: (I did make one and it was delicious).
If she was likely to be getting engaged to Harry, its likely that she would get rid fo a blog, which smacks of self promotion..
^ I agree
@amabel. ! Just like Kate wanting to be called "Catherine" prior to marriage.
The signs are there for all to see.
Let's hope she doesn't feel the need to forget herself and become mute and a bag of bones.
^ It doesn't mean she is getting engaged ... she would get rid of Suits first if that is the case ... not that she doesn't want her relationship with Harry to be very serious very fast but I can't see it happening while she lives on the other side of the World ... it could be like someone else said she got tired of every world she spit on that blog being used against her ...
She can get off the show Suits right after any engagement. That is possible.
QuoteMeghan Markle has just shut down her blog for an unexpected reason
Meghan Markle surprised everyone this weekend when she announced the end of her successful lifestyle blog: The Tig.
Created three years ago, The Tig – founded by Meghan Markle – was a lifestyle website and brand, focused on travel, food, fashion and beauty, boasting a strong following of like-minded individuals.
On Friday, however, Meghan made the decision to close her blog down, posting a heartfelt message to her website, entitled 'Farewell, Darling'.
Read more:
Meghan Markle just shut down her blog for a very unexpected reason (http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/entertainment/people/meghan-markle-blog-497131#UYeRbuXAWh0ZZWkG.99)
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QuoteHave your say: should Prince Harry marry?
They've been dating for the past ten months and Prince Harry and Meghan Markle show every sign of taking their romance to the next level. Friends say the pair are besotted with each other and they take every opportunity they can to spend time together despite living and working 3,500 miles apart in London and Toronto.
Last week, Meghan, 35, announced the closure of her successful lifestyle blog The Tig after three years, adding fuel to speculation that she and Harry, 32, are on the verge of announcing an engagement.
HELLO! readers have been following the couple's story avidly and now here's your chance to answer four burning questions about the royal romance...
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle poll: Should they marry? (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2017041138022/prince-harry-meghan-markle-poll/)
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QuoteIs Prince Harry about to pop the question? Meghan Markle gives up her lifestyle blog
They are only four sentences, but they have triggered further speculation that something significant is about to happen in the life of Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle.
In a brief statement posted online the American actress has announced that she is to discontinue her online blog The Tig.
Markle, who has been dating the Prince for nearly a year and has been increasingly photographed with him in London and elsewhere, said it was time to "say goodbye" to the blog after three years.
Read more:
Is Prince Harry about to pop the question? Meghan Markle gives up her lifestyle blog (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/prince-harry-pop-question-meghan-markle-gives-lifestyle-blog/)
I think people are desperate for Harry to get married and are literally jumping the shark with this one just like they did with Cressida ... again ... if he didn't marry Chelsy or even Cressida who was a very similar scenario to that of his parents I can't see him marry someone he got with last June/July ... I find it mind blowing anyone would think so ...
Agree. harry's romances seem to follow a pattern of being long distance, or with an actress. He clearly is into the stage and is possibly happy in a long distance relationship
Meghan' s blog is about as interesting as the pictures of her going to yoga class published today. I actually came back from doing the same thing in Toronto. Hardly interesting. :teehee: I don't think that there is all that interest in her anyways considering these pictures were taken Saturday and only now they are being published.
I am happy that she is focusing on humanitarian work. Although there are conflicting opinions of how valuable celebrities are with their causes. The world does not need another fluff blog that talks about superficial things of her promoting her friend's businesses.
The end of her blog means nothing if she is still filming Suits. That show is also boring. I could not get through it on Netflix especially since I kept looking for landmarks of Toronto acting as NYC.
Photos of Meghan going to yoga have been published several times before, so naturally there's little interest. However, are you saying that if she flew to London next weekend and she and Harry were pictured going into a glamorous club or restaurant together, all dressed up, that there would be no interest?
There's certainly been loads of interest in this romance in tabloids, magazines and all over social media, including gossip sites. Here in Australia the two of them, separately and together, have been on the front page of Australian magazines. So, not boring readers here, (or in Britain, where they've also been featured.)
The Tig was quite a successful blog and the fact she's closed it is significant IMO. It's been said that it earned her in fees and kind about $100,000 a year in income. As for its content, I don't follow such blogs, but from what I did see of it it was no better and no worse than any others.
As for Suits, you may not find it interesting. However, it's been picked up for its seventh season, so it must be doing something right. Even for cable networks seven years isn't a bad run.
Quote from: Eri on April 11, 2017, 01:16:23 PM
I think people are desperate for Harry to get married and are literally jumping the shark with this one just like they did with Cressida ... again ... if he didn't marry Chelsy or even Cressida who was a very similar scenario to that of his parents I can't see him marry someone he got with last June/July ... I find it mind blowing anyone would think so ...
Why would people be "desperate" for Harry to marry. Most have their own lives but wish Harry well. Why would his relationships with his previous girlfriends be an indicator of what happens with Meghan? Men have relationships but they don't have to marry each of these women.
People can be desperate for him to marry or not and to marry MM or not. PH will marry who he wants when he wants.
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She closed the Tig because:
a) the rehabilitation of Meghan Markle has begun. She will no longer be associated with frivolous things. First goes the Tig, next (after Suits has finished filming) the acting career. She'll focus on charity work, maybe even get a paid job in a charity. Slowly the internet will be scrubbed of references to her previous life. And then... :king: The engagement between HRH Prince Henry of Wales and Ms Meghan Markle, of the Wellcome Trust (or whatever charity), will be announced. Most people will not remember connect her to "that actress Harry used to date".
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Quote from: Eri on April 11, 2017, 01:16:23 PM
I think people are desperate for Harry to get married and are literally jumping the shark with this one just like they did with Cressida ... again ... if he didn't marry Chelsy or even Cressida who was a very similar scenario to that of his parents I can't see him marry someone he got with last June/July ... I find it mind blowing anyone would think so ...
Why would people be "desperate" for Harry to marry. Most have their own lives but wish Harry well. Why would his relationships with his previous girlfriends be an indicator of what happens with Meghan? Men have relationships but they don't have to marry each of these women.
People certainly DO seem to be very kene for harry to marry. People on this forum have always been insisiting that Harry "really loves" one or other of his old girlfreinds and is going to get back with and marry her. now he has a new girl and people are at it again insisiting that YES YES he WILL marry Meghan.
^ I was thinking more about the press ... they are desperate for Harry to marry because since Charlotte's birth it's been very boring on the Royal front ... what I find mind blowing are Royal reporters who actually have a relationship with Harry and know him since his first breath saying he will marry on Twitter ... I don't know if they do it for viewership or they really think it :hmm: ...
QuoteMeghan Markle is bent on keeping fit as she heads to a yoga class in Toronto after shutting down lifestyle website The Tig
MEGHAN Markle headed to yoga class this weekend during some off-time from filming the seventh series of Suits.
The 35-year-old actress, who is currently in a romance with Prince Harry, wore a striped T-shirt, black leggings and a mac as she walked to the Toronto venue.
Meghan, whose mum is a yoga instructor, has been practising the discipline since she was seven years old.
Read more:
Meghan Markle is bent on keeping fit as she heads to a yoga class in Toronto (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3313250/meghan-markle-is-bent-on-keeping-fit-as-she-heads-to-a-yoga-class-in-toronto-after-shutting-down-lifestyle-website-the-tig/)
^ It's amazing how as Yoga addicted as she is she is never sighted on a Yoga class on Twitter or pictured while she is supposedly basically living with Harry at KP ... you would think she would enroll in one given all the time she supposedly spends in London ... she is only visible while in Toronto amazing that ... in our social media obsessed society she is never sighted with or without Harry while she is in London might be because you can only be pictured at the place you actually are ...
Maybe she has a yoga instructor visiting her and does not attend the classes.
^ Seems like an unlikely scenario to me ... she is not a prisoner ... if she actually spend any time in London she would be seen like she was when she was actually there ... the truth of the matter is she is not tolerated in London for more than a week and she knows it or she would already left Toronto as desperate as she has been since Day one of this so called relationship ...
Sometimes celebrities hire personal trainers because they want to not because they want to "hide." Just who does not "tolerate" her in London?
I quite enjoyed Meghan's blog, I thought it was a nice light hearted read, a little break from all the craziness of the day. I'm glad I got to save some of the recipes that were of interest to me, before Meg shut her blog down.
I really liked Suits Season 6, part 2. IMO, it was much more improved over previous seasons that I didn't enjoy watching as much. And I'm looking forward to Suits season 7, back on TV July 12th, yeah! Hopefully It will have the fast paced storylines of season6.
Quote from: Maria5583 on April 12, 2017, 12:45:01 AM
Meghan' s blog is about as interesting as the pictures of her going to yoga class published today. I actually came back from doing the same thing in Toronto. Hardly interesting. :teehee: I don't think that there is all that interest in her anyways considering these pictures were taken Saturday and only now they are being published.
I am happy that she is focusing on humanitarian work. Although there are conflicting opinions of how valuable celebrities are with their causes. The world does not need another fluff blog that talks about superficial things of her promoting her friend's businesses.
The end of her blog means nothing if she is still filming Suits. That show is also boring. I could not get through it on Netflix especially since I kept looking for landmarks of Toronto acting as NYC.
Quote from: sandy on April 12, 2017, 11:08:43 PM
Sometimes celebrities hire personal trainers because they want to not because they want to "hide." Just who does not "tolerate" her in London?
I don't think she spends much time here, she anad H seem to meet abroad mostly..
^ It's like any of his other relationships :orchid: ... I don't care if he is 50 the man won't commit that easily and if he does it won't be to this middle aged divorce who has brought nothing but drama and bad PR to him since the beginning of their so called relationship ... we know Harry doesn't like drama or "needy" women who want him to act like an actual boyfriend ... Megan will be history the minute she asks for "more" ...
I think once he does find a nice woman and commits himself he'll be a good husband but I don't think that he's that serious about her... and I think he enjoys being free. However he may find that around 40 he's kene to have a family and settle into full time royal life and he will be likely to marry then
I'm happy that Harry and Meghan are together and that they get to spend time together, mainly away from prying eyes. :nod:
^ The only place she gets to spend her time is in Toronto on her Daily pap stroll ... back in London ... Harry only thinks of her when he feels lonely and needs his bed warmed ... she is not tolerated more than necessary ...
^^ She has also been working. Cast of Suits have been on set in Toronto and also filming around the city. Royals don't routinely publish where they are spending their private time. And it's usually when they have returned from a trip that we may find out about it, if we do at all.
Quote from: Eri on April 13, 2017, 06:57:17 AM
^ It's like any of his other relationships :orchid: ... I don't care if he is 50 the man won't commit that easily and if he does it won't be to this middle aged divorce who has brought nothing but drama and bad PR to him since the beginning of their so called relationship ... we know Harry doesn't like drama or "needy" women who want him to act like an actual boyfriend ... Megan will be history the minute she asks for "more" ...
No he hasn't. I don't see any "bad publicity." How do you know he won't commit?
Quote from: amabel on April 13, 2017, 07:30:56 AM
I think once he does find a nice woman and commits himself he'll be a good husband but I don't think that he's that serious about her... and I think he enjoys being free. However he may find that around 40 he's kene to have a family and settle into full time royal life and he will be likely to marry then
And how do you know he hasn't met that "nice woman"?If he wasn't serious about her,you think Meghan would be dating him?also,why pursue her?She would have dropped him like a hot potato if this was all fun and games to him.No way she would wasting her time on him when there are better men out there that she can get with.But,I dont know what Meghan thinks or wants and neither do you about Harry.
Well guess what, harry is with her in Canada right now and he will be spending the Easter with meg and her mom and dad! So this wedding is happening either you like it on not.
Prince Harry Secretly Visits Meghan Markle Ahead of Easter | E! News (http://m.eonline.com/news/843341/prince-harry-secretly-visits-meghan-markle-ahead-of-easter)
He will not be going to Church with his families instead chill with meg dad or maybe asking for his daughter hand if he has not already done that, so let wave our hat for the right one harry chosen .😜😁
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Quote from: amabel on April 13, 2017, 07:30:56 AM
I think once he does find a nice woman and commits himself he'll be a good husband but I don't think that he's that serious about her... and I think he enjoys being free. However he may find that around 40 he's kene to have a family and settle into full time royal life and he will be likely to marry then
And how do you know he hasn't met that "nice woman"?If he wasn't serious about her,you think Meghan would be dating him?also,why pursue her?She would have dropped him like a hot potato if this was all fun and games to him.No way she would wasting her time on him when there are better men out there that she can get with.But,I dont know what Meghan thinks or wants and neither do you about Harry.
I said "I think"..
and why should she not date him on a light hearted basis? He's a nice young man, not very bright but good hearted and he's probably fine for a romance.
I think they are beyond the light hearted basis of first dates. I think they are serious.
I wasn't really surprised to see that Harry had nipped over to Toronto to see his girl at Easter and maybe share an Easter egg or two. Lovely to see that they try to see each other whenever they can.
I wish Harry would cease this cloak and dagger stuff though. I know he hates paps and the press and doesn't want to give them ammo for articles. However, the cat is well and truly out of the bag regarding his and Meghan's relationship. I'd just like to see the couple take a stroll in the sunshine, visit a cafe for brunch, go to a local cinema together. Toronto is by all accounts a very laid back sort of place and they wouldn't be hassled.
Quote from: good221 on April 13, 2017, 06:42:03 PM
Well guess what, harry is with her in Canada right now and he will be spending the Easter with meg and her mom and dad! So this wedding is happening either you like it on not.
Prince Harry Secretly Visits Meghan Markle Ahead of Easter | E! News (http://m.eonline.com/news/843341/prince-harry-secretly-visits-meghan-markle-ahead-of-easter)
He will not be going to Church with his families instead chill with meg dad or maybe asking for his daughter hand if he has not already done that, so let wave our hat for the right one harry chosen .😜😁
I read this article. Now, where does it say that her mother and father will be around for Easter?
Quote from: Curryong on April 13, 2017, 09:35:46 PM
I wasn't really surprised to see that Harry had nipped over to Toronto to see his girl at Easter and maybe share an Easter egg or two. Lovely to see that they try to see each other whenever they can.
I wish Harry would cease this cloak and dagger stuff though. I know he hates paps and the press and doesn't want to give them ammo for articles. However, the cat is well and truly out of the bag regarding his and Meghan's relationship. I'd just like to see the couple take a stroll in the sunshine, visit a cafe for brunch, go to a local cinema together. Toronto is by all accounts a very laid back sort of place and they wouldn't be hassled.
I agree. The cloak and dagger stuff is ridiculous. Why issue such a public statement pretty much confirming the relationship and then seek around? The last time Harry was allegedly in Toronto they spent the time holed up on her house and the same is the case in London. What kind of a relationship is that?Harry is so paranoid. I would not want to be with anyone that doesn't want to go out in public with me.
Toronto is a laid back city. There was a silly article a while back about Meghan being the darling of Toronto, and that's just not true. Very few people know and care about celebs here and there are bigger celebrities that live here than Meghan, but no one talks about it because this is a city of almost 3 million people. I live around the corner from an internationally known former supermodel and I have only seen her 2 times in the 9 years I have lived here. We are too busy rushing around. Meghan could be nice but no one would recognize her prior to her relationship with Harry and even now. A multi-relational girl in Toronto? Who isn't!
Consequently, it is mind-boggling to me that paps at always at her door, especially at night. Someone must alert them. I wonder who? :lol::teehee:
That photo looks awfully grainy and amateurish, not a pap shot at all. People who were with him on the plane, people who saw him at Toronto airport, those who spotted him in a car going to Meghan's house could have phoned E news. There were probably dozens who knew Harry was going to Toronto.
What matters is that the Tumbr Queens (so-called) have been proved wrong again and again. He broke up with her in December, he hated her being at Skip's wedding, he's cut her out of his social media, all the photos are old or photoshopped. It goes on and on. What's going to happen if they get engaged. BP are lying?
So true, the tumblr tools that keep living in denial about harry and Megan even now Claiming that these new photo that is clear to be old one or calling Megan a booty call just to make their sick self happy are wrong.
New article from twitter clearly state the Queen gave harry permission to go, since William will be spending his Easter with the Middleton so it seems the royal house approved their relationship over those other B.s. nay say.
I only know her parents are going because of another article that I read earlier I will go back on the eye witness twitter page and paste it here so you all can read it for yourself, at least her parents are sticking together and be supportive of Megan over her money hungry sister, brother, nieces.
^ I don't think the Queen gives a flying wotsit about Harry's relationship until he's ready to pop the question, which probably won't be for a while yet.
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@Maria5583, I wonder who alerted the media... And not just the media, but E! News, so they could another get a nice exclusive. I wonder who.... :coy:
I agree Tiddles that I don't think she'll worry bout it until he starts saying he wants to get engaged. And I would say that he wotn consider that step for at least another year and ideally more. (if he ever does). I am sure they queen has other things to think about than Harry's romances..
Quote from: Tiddles88 on April 14, 2017, 07:37:29 AM
^ I don't think the Queen gives a flying wotsit about Harry's relationship until he's ready to pop the question, which probably won't be for a while yet.
Like @Maria5583, I wonder who alerted the media... And not just the media, but E! News, so they could another get a nice exclusive. I wonder who.... :coy:
In a day and age when anyone can take a picture and sell it, amateur or professional, IMO, it's not that challenging to understand. Everyone is looking for exclusives, to be the first to report on any story, that's why there are also so many embellished stories.
It's a holiday weekend and for those that believe PH & MM are in a relationship, (there are still some who believe they broke up in December, lol), it doesn't take a rocket scientist to assume that he would visit her. I had already alluded to that in my earlier post yesterday, "royals don't usually publish where they are spending their private time". And no, even if I could have, it wasn't me who took the photo and sold it to E! News.
Toronto maybe a laid back city, however when there is money to be made for the "story of the day", paps know when and where to turn up. TO, isn't referred to as Hollywood North for nothing.
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Prince Harry flies to Toronto for secret visit to see girlfriend Meghan Markle for Easter break
Prince Harry has flown to Toronto to pay a secret visit to his girlfriend Meghan Markle to spend Easter with her.
He arrived at her home with a large sports bag on Wednesday night with his face covered by a baseball cap.
It is a few weeks since the pair last saw each other
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Prince Harry flies to Toronto for secret visit to see girlfriend Meghan Markle for Easter break (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/13/prince-harry-flies-toronto-secret-visit-see-girlfriend-meghan/)
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QuotePrince Harry Secretly Visits Meghan Markle Ahead of Easter
On the road again!
E! News has obtained exclusive pictures of Prince Harry arriving at Meghan Markle's Toronto home Wednesday night. With a large duffel bag in hand and a baseball hat to conceal his face, Harry made his way into his girlfriend's abode ahead of Easter weekend.
Read more:
Prince Harry Secretly Visits Meghan Markle Ahead of Easter | E! News (http://www.eonline.com/news/843341/prince-harry-secretly-visits-meghan-markle-ahead-of-easter)
You know, Lady Deb, I find it really hard to believe that someone just happened to hang around in the alley behind Meghan's house with a camera on the off chance that a ginger shadow would sneak in the back. And those photos are not taken on a mobile phone, given the darkness and the distance.
Btw, why was Harry sneaking in the back? He loves this woman, yes? Wants to marry her? Then he shouldn't be slinking around like an alley cat, or illicit lover. I sort of pity Meghan if this is how her beloved treats her.
^^I don't know why he entered through the back. Perhaps is his security staying in the back? I remember back in November when all the news crews were hanging around her house, the back of the house seems to be where the garage parking is, and the front looked to be permit parking.
Frankly, if it was me, I wouldn't care that he came to the back entrance, I'd just be happy that he traveled to come and spend some time with me.
Quote from: Eri on April 13, 2017, 10:48:10 AM
^ The only place she gets to spend her time is in Toronto on her Daily pap stroll ... back in London ... Harry only thinks of her when he feels lonely and needs his bed warmed ... she is not tolerated more than necessary ...
This coming from someone who said this relationship would be over, what was it, December 2016? It is now the middle of April 2017 and they've almost been together a year. And you need to just be quite!! You sound ridiculous. Harry doesn't know you exist!! You don't know him or how he feels about anything!
^^ Article accompanying the pics said the car dropped Harry off, so parking has nothing to do with it. And if he's going to be pictured either way... there no need for discretion. He shouldn't treat her like a dirty secret. If security was the issue, they should have been whisked away now that has been revealed that he's in her house, to a safe and lovely place, 5* hotel maybe, to enjoy each other's company. But lo and behold, Meghan's out and about, going to yoga and looking glum.
I don't believe the narrative that we have been presented, that they're besotted with each other, that they're planning to wed. I believe that they are in a relationship (I don't buy the photoshop theories), but I do think the shine is off. Meghan may be having second thoughts, royal life is not a fairytale after all, and Harry maybe not all he's cracked up to be, once you get past the prince bit.
I think she can't help looking glum, the photos I've seen she always seems to look sullen or glum so perhaps its just her natural expression. I think they may be "besotted" but I am still sceptical how long it will last. She may well find that when she considers it all, giving up her freedom to marry a second son, when she wont evne be queen but will still have the restrictions and the duties, isn't such a great bargain
There are dozens of photos on the Internet of Meghan looking happy and smiling broadly and there are videos of her interacting cheerfully with people.
Sophie was a career woman and gave it up to marry a third son, and the youngest of four. Edward was never going to be King. She presumably doesn't regret her life and finds many of her royal duties satisfying.
It's said that in Charles's reign he intends to streamline the Royal family and he, his wife, his sons and their wives will be in the spotlight while his siblings take a back seat and the Kents etc will be retired.
There will be plenty of work to do as a member of the BRF for someone as charity oriented as Meghan, (who helped out in LA soup kitchens as a schoolgirl and has continued on with speeches at the UN and visits to Africa and India etc.) Why shouldn't she find such work satisfying when (if) she's Harry's wife?
Sophie was hardly a brilliant success as megahn is supposed to be. And most importantly she's Britsih. And Given that Sophie ended up £1M in debt but because she's a royal has been able to shrug it off adn do royal duties, she's darned lucky and no doubt knows that she's lucky..
Meghan was brought up in a different culture, and it is possible that she's not so taken with the British royal family as someone Englsih would be..
She might think that giving up her acitng (actors love to act) and her charity work that she can do in whatever way she chooses, plus taking on the formality of royal life, the move to a different culture and the intrusion of the British Press, is not something she wants to do.
^ Well, if Meghan believes all that and thinks all that (and she has said not a word about her views on the BRF) then it's truly remarkable that she is in a serious relationship of almost a year with a British prince, especially a senior Royal who must have talked to her about his family and his relatives and duties. He issued an unprecedented statement on her behalf last year.
Meghan has stayed with Harry at KP and has not been put off by the security measures etc. You would think that not knowing anything about the BRF after all that she must be blind, deaf and dumb. In your mid 30s you don't usually form a relationship with a single male for nearly a year, just for kicks and she hasn't run screaming for the hills yet!
However, you are determined to believe that she knows nothing of Britain, nothing of the BRF and the two aren't serious. If they become engaged in the next few months I shall be interested in your reactions to this event.
I will be mildly annoyed that I was wrong, but I wont care very much...
Quote from: Tiddles88 on April 15, 2017, 07:29:47 AM
^^ Article accompanying the pics said the car dropped Harry off, so parking has nothing to do with it. And if he's going to be pictured either way... there no need for discretion. He shouldn't treat her like a dirty secret. If security was the issue, they should have been whisked away now that has been revealed that he's in her house, to a safe and lovely place, 5* hotel maybe, to enjoy each other's company. But lo and behold, Meghan's out and about, going to yoga and looking glum.
I don't believe the narrative that we have been presented, that they're besotted with each other, that they're planning to wed. I believe that they are in a relationship (I don't buy the photoshop theories), but I do think the shine is off. Meghan may be having second thoughts, royal life is not a fairytale after all, and Harry maybe not all he's cracked up to be, once you get past the prince bit.
I did not read the article. I saw the report on local Toronto television and people in the neighbourhood said security vehicles were parked at her house.
You see Meghan as looking glum going to yoga, I see her as just not smiling for the photographer. I don't know what Harry's or Meghan's thoughts are. I believe that they are in relationship, whether they are planning to get engaged or wed, I guess we'll all find out sometime in the future.
^^ I remember back last year there were pics of her smiling and some used to say she enjoys the attention,shes so smug etc and now that she doesn't smile,those people are now saying there trouble in paradise,her and Harry have broken up etc... :notamused: she can't win
I do remember how happy she looked when Harry came to see her in November. She was practically glowing. She hasn't looked that happy for a long time now.
And why is she going to yoga alone when the man in her life is in her house? The man that she hasn't seen in weeks. They should be snuggled up watching films, chatting, cooking together, being happy... instead here's Meghan, off to yoga.
I'm wondering, you ladies who support the view that they're super happy together and heading to the alter at 96 miles/hour, if the situation was reversed. If there was a whole host of photos of Meghan looking happy, and the photos from the Jamaica wedding showed Harry, smiling and attentive to his lovely lady... Would you have laughed if someone said they were unhappy with each other? Or would you have agreed that "a photo is a moment in time, it shows us nothing about their relationship"? "He was probably laughing at a joke the waiter made"? Or does it only count if the evidence shows what you would like to see?
Quote from: Tiddles88 on April 15, 2017, 03:49:07 PM
I do remember how happy she looked when Harry came to see her in November. She was practically glowing. She hasn't looked that happy for a long time now.
And why is she going to yoga alone when the man in her life is in her house? The man that she hasn't seen in weeks. They should be snuggled up watching films, chatting, cooking together, being happy... instead here's Meghan, off to yoga.
I'm wondering, you ladies who support the view that they're super happy together and heading to the alter at 96 miles/hour, if the situation was reversed. If there was a whole host of photos of Meghan looking happy, and the photos from the Jamaica wedding showed Harry, smiling and attentive to his lovely lady... Would you have laughed if someone said they were unhappy with each other? Or would you have agreed that "a photo is a moment in time, it shows us nothing about their relationship"? "He was probably laughing at a joke the waiter made"? Or does it only count if the evidence shows what you would like to see?
Evidence? He invited her at his friend's wedding last month. He came to Toronto to spend Easter with her. It's the only evidence we have. And it's the only evidence we need.
@Tiddles88 I interpret life and things differently from you. Some see a glass half empty, I see a glass half full. Personally, sometimes when I'm happy, I have a huge grin, beaming ear to ear, most of the time I'm happy and content in life, but no huge grin, I'm still happy, that's just me. Back to Meghan, I've seen pictures of her smiling and laughing recently.
Why can't a woman go to yoga even if her boyfriend is in town? Perhaps Harry was tired and having a snooze, so M kept her yoga time? Perhaps H had a conference call or meeting with one of his charities and she went and did her own thing? Why can't a person be happy and still do their own thing for a couple of hours, if that? I guess that's my personal, glass half full, cup runneth over view on life. There's 24 hours in a day, a few minutes at yoga to me doesn't determine whether someone is happy or not, or whether someone is snuggling, chatting and being happy for the remaining 22-23 hours in a day. Meghan has been in England and Harry still kept his public appearances. Perhaps they are just that comfortable with each other and with life.
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@California_dream said if M was smiling some would and have criticized her for being smug, now she's not smiling, she must be glum. I say, a picture captured M walking on Wednesday with her yoga mat. End of story for that moment in time.
The narrative, which we have been told ad nauseum, since they went public is: Harry and Meghan are besotted with each other. They are the hottest couple this side of hell. They have decided to marry and are planning to announce this to the world soon.
Is there any evidence of any of these things?
They are a couple. They do spend time together. I do not dispute that. What I am arguing against is that sugar sweet narrative. Honestly, I see nothing to indicate that these two people are even in love, let alone are planning to marry.
I doubt they would stay together if they were not in love.
^ Well, Tiddles, what about the statement Harry released last November from Kensington Palace, as proof that Harry feels that Meghan is special?
I have followed Harry from his teens and therefore through the Chelsy and Cressida B years. Harry was in love with Chelsy for a long time and she was pursued by paps and sometimes attacked in the press. Harry, who was very young, issued no statement on her behalf.
The attacks on Cressida were not so much by the media as by the fandom on Tumblrs and Twitter and forums and it was pretty rough. No statement by KP/Harry though.
Indeed, it is very very rare for the Royals to issue any kind of statement which refers to their private lives especially their love lives. William and Kate dated for practically nine years with short off breaks. Those were Pre Leveson Inquiry days and Kate had to sometimes face dozens of paps a day when she ventured out of the London flat she lived in, and that went on for years. No statement.
No other Royal has done this, not even Charles, when his fiancée Diana was being photographed night and day. I'd say that makes Meghan and the relationship special in Harry's eyes.
What do you expect them to do to prove their love. Come out wearing hearts and flowers and wreathed with smiles every time they're in public? Harry to give long interviews about his love for Meghan?
When did William and Kate ever do that and they've now been married six years with two children? Have you ever seen the Queen and Prince Philip (nearly 70 years married) kissing and cuddling and talking about their love? Or Charles and Camilla? Thats not something royals do.
This is a long distance relationship between two people in their 30s. Harry has said for years he wants to settle down, and Harry and Meghan make the effort to see each other whenever they can. So long as they know what their feelings are for each other then it really doesn't matter about anyone else.
What are they going to say next when there is a wedding, that it didn't happen? Oh! I know! "It wasn't Meghan he married." You all are just being ridiculous!! Curryoung and others, why do you bother? Seriously!!??
Meghan has ended her association with Reitman's clothing stores.
Meghan Markle quits her Reitmans ambassador role | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4414730/GIRL-TOWN-Markle-quits-clothing-ambassador-role.html)
Quote from: Curryong on April 16, 2017, 12:27:51 AM
Meghan has ended her association with Reitman's clothing stores.
Meghan Markle quits her Reitmans ambassador role | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4414730/GIRL-TOWN-Markle-quits-clothing-ambassador-role.html)
I think they are already engaged! They just have not announced it yet and they won't until after she finishes filming "Suits'" season 7. First her blog now this and they offered a lucrative contract to renew I understand. Wow! Something is going on!!
Quote from: Curryong on April 15, 2017, 09:49:52 PM
^ Well, Tiddles, what about the statement Harry released last November from Kensington Palace, as proof that Harry feels that Meghan is special?
I have followed Harry from his teens and therefore through the Chelsy and Cressida B years. Harry was in love with Chelsy for a long time and she was pursued by paps and sometimes attacked in the press. Harry, who was very young, issued no statement on her behalf.
The attacks on Cressida were not so much by the media as by the fandom on Tumblrs and Twitter and forums and it was pretty rough. No statement by KP/Harry though.
Indeed, it is very very rare for the Royals to issue any kind of statement which refers to their private lives especially their love lives. William and Kate dated for practically nine years with short off breaks. Those were Pre Leveson Inquiry days and Kate had to sometimes face dozens of paps a day when she ventured out of the London flat she lived in, and that went on for years. No statement.
No other Royal has done this, not even Charles, when his fiancée Diana was being photographed night and day. I'd say that makes Meghan and the relationship special in Harry's eyes.
What do you expect them to do to prove their love. Come out wearing hearts and flowers and wreathed with smiles every time they're in public? Harry to give long interviews about his love for Meghan?
When did William and Kate ever do that and they've now been married six years with two children? Have you ever seen the Queen and Prince Philip (nearly 70 years married) kissing and cuddling and talking about their love? Or Charles and Camilla? Thats not something royals do.
This is a long distance relationship between two people in their 30s. Harry has said for years he wants to settle down, and Harry and Meghan make the effort to see each other whenever they can. So long as they know what their feelings are for each other then it really doesn't matter about anyone else.
They should tattoo each other names on their foreheads.Perhaps Meghan should wear a 'I heart Harry' shirt and vice versa :lol:
Anyone that has been following Harry for even a bit can tell you that the media has speculated about Harry getting married to each of his girlfriends. Most recently with Cressida and they unexpectedly broke a short time later. So trying to assume that everything means that they are getting married, is futile because it has happened countless times before with other girlfriends. Both of which, seem to have walked away because they could not stand the speculation, lack of privacy. They were smart girls in my opinion.
I think that people that claim to be fans of the relationship are the most harmful for the relationship. Let it happen naturally, slowly and without expectations. I bet that's how Harry and Meghan are trying to do things considering having Meghan signup for a restrictive royal life can not be taken lightly when she did not go up in it. Getting engaged less than a year into a relationship is quick for most relationships is fast, it is especially so to get married into the royal family. Princess Diana could attest to that, I am sure. I don't think Harry is stupid. He knows that he needs to be cautious of who he selects to marry. If it is meant to be, it will be, regardless of what people say is happening or not happening. None of us really know what is going on. It is simply speculation on here and with the media. Harry getting married sells more newspapers than Harry getting to know Meghan and taking their relationship slowly.
I just read, Harry took Meghan away somewhere this weekend for Easter!!
Quote from: California_dream on April 16, 2017, 07:48:33 AM
They should tattoo each other names on their foreheads.Perhaps Meghan should wear a 'I heart Harry' shirt and vice versa :lol:
LOL, Then there would be chatter, is it a heart, or a circle or a big W? Then complaints, wearing a heart is childish, she's wearing a circle, she wants in Harry's circle. No she wants a round red ring. No, it's 'I W Harry', she's just smug, saying she Won Harry. She wore a $500 'I Won Harry' designer shirt, she should have bought material and thread and made her own shirt, cuz its not right to support charities if you wear expensive clothes. Or it really is a heart, but she wasn't smiling and didn't place her hand over her heart, no she doesn't really heart Harry, LOL!
well I don't enyvy her. the fans who championed Cressy or Chelsey will be up in arms..
Harry is with Meghan. He loves her. Who cares who's up in arms opposed to it?
All of you against this and complaining act as if you a vested interest and a say in his relationship! And you don't! There is not a thing any of you can do about it!!
@Maria5583 Talking about the possibility of an engagement isnt going to make it happen and i doubt Harry and Meghan care what we discuss about them
Prince Harry will have Meghan Markle by his side at Pippa Middleton's wedding
http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/12017041722251/12017041722251prince-harry-meghan-markle-date-pippa-middleton-wedding/
He acts so ashamed of her ... it's embarrassing for her that at 35 she is someone a man sneaks in their home for you know what and nothing else and won't act as a proper boyfriend in the Daylight ... it's embarrassing for him no real celeb wants him given that he seems so keen on them ... even Mollie King tolled him where to go ...
Quote from: California_dream on April 16, 2017, 07:42:32 PM
@Maria5583 Talking about the possibility of an engagement isnt going to make it happen and i doubt Harry and Meghan care what we discuss about them
true talking about it wont make it happen..
https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2017/04/17/meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-royal-riddle-govani.html
On set, where the energy is unsurprisingly different this year, a source close to production informs that they're bending over backwards to keep "Meghan happy," but there is also a sense that she's dissolved into a world of herself. She worries that she has only "users," not real friends, and has been preoccupied to some extent with some of the inter-family strife — i.e. an older half-sister who has announced plans to write a not-so-agreeable tell-all!
(Regarding Harry's photos visiting Meghan) It also didn't escape my attention that the grainy images were released exclusively by E!, which is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns the USA Network, the network that runs the show Suits.
Quote from: Curryong on April 15, 2017, 09:11:45 AM
^ Well, if Meghan believes all that and thinks all that (and she has said not a word about her views on the BRF) then it's truly remarkable that she is in a serious relationship of almost a year with a British prince, especially a senior Royal who must have talked to her about his family and his relatives and duties. He issued an unprecedented statement on her behalf last year.
Meghan has stayed with Harry at KP and has not been put off by the security measures etc. You would think that not knowing anything about the BRF after all that she must be blind, deaf and dumb. In your mid 30s you don't usually form a relationship with a single male for nearly a year, just for kicks and she hasn't run screaming for the hills yet!
theres'a lot of difference between payng a visit and signing up for life. and a lot of difference between knowing SOMETHING about a country and a lifestyle and actually committing to that place..
Of course she hasn't said anyting about the BRF, she would be monumentally foolish to do so.
QuoteMeghan Markle ends her Reitmans contract in yet another sign of an impending engagement
Just over a week since Prince Harry's girlfriend, Meghan Markle shut down her lifestyle blog The Tig, it has come to light that the Actress has also ended her contract with the Canadian fashion brand Reitmans.
Miss Markle had a contract with Reitmans which she was the face of two collections of her own which both sold out as soon as her relationship with Prince Harry came to light in October 2016. She also acted as a Brand Ambassador for the store.
Reitmans reportedly wanted to extend their contract with the Actress but she turned them down. The fashion brand offered a large salary increase but she could not be swayed.
Read more:
Meghan Markle ends her Reitmans contract in yet another sign of an impending engagement – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/meghan-markle-ends-her-reitmans-contract-in-yet-another-sign-of-an-impending-engagement-80591)
Quote from: psm on April 18, 2017, 10:52:21 AM
https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2017/04/17/meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-royal-riddle-govani.html
On set, where the energy is unsurprisingly different this year, a source close to production informs that they're bending over backwards to keep "Meghan happy," but there is also a sense that she's dissolved into a world of herself. She worries that she has only "users," not real friends, and has been preoccupied to some extent with some of the inter-family strife — i.e. an older half-sister who has announced plans to write a not-so-agreeable tell-all!
(Regarding Harry's photos visiting Meghan) It also didn't escape my attention that the grainy images were released exclusively by E!, which is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns the USA Network, the network that runs the show Suits.
No surprise there ... she always stuck me as a diva and very unpleasant to people she has no use of ... no surprise she came with a lot of negativity from Day one even though she was relatively as famous as my cousin is ... she has been very mean to people on the way up if you ask me ...
I have no doubt that they will be engaged soon. Meghan left the website, stop sell clothes at the virtual store ... why would she do that? She will continue in Suits until the contract ends :hug: :hug: :hug:
I don't know. ....it almost feels like she's doing this to make herself available for engagement, so that the idea will be in Harry's mind
I don't think she'd burn bridges unless there was some indication from Harry or they had a talk about their future.
If he takes her to Pippa's wedding, I do believe he wants to marry her.
Quote from: sandy on April 18, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
I don't think she'd burn bridges unless there was some indication from Harry or they had a talk about their future.
She can always return with a new life style blog and WHEN they break up the offers will pure in ... this is all smoke and mirrors by a desperate woman who can only dream Harry is THAT moronic ... he is but not that moronic ... she has all to gain here WHEN they break up her carer will be bigger than it ever was ...
You mean IF they break up. Nobody is a fortune teller on this board as far as I know.
I don't see Meghan as "desperate." She does not base her whole existence on Harry and has a career.
well she had to have a carreer didn't she? She only met harry A year or 2 ago.
Quote from: sandy on April 18, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
I don't think she'd burn bridges unless there was some indication from Harry or they had a talk about their future.
Agree. H&M have their plan, we'll all learn about it soon enough when they are ready. Harry seems very protective of Meghan and their relationship. He has experienced first hand how hard it is living in the public eye, the constant scrutiny and fake stories. Meghan has now experienced some of this with the horrendous amount of fake stories that have been generated about her, probably at a level that she had never thought of before.
^ I am really incredulous at this "I don't like this news so it is fake" culture we live in right now ... Megan did pose for questionable pictures , has her own sister telling us a lot about how she is and the only acting she has ever done is THAT scene in the Beverly Hills reboot ... those are facts ... the fact you don't like it doesn't make it "fake" ...
Right Eri it is all the gospel truth because that is what you want to believe. Meghans family and even her sister's mother has come out in her defense. Meghans sister from all accounts is a bitter nasty and jealous woman if her own mother refutes what she has to say about her half sister and her success then yes her sister is selling fake stories after all what does her sisters mother have to gain?, Meghan is not her daughter. So what if Meghan has posed for questionable pictures this is 2017 and there have been worse scandals attached to the royals and there were topless pictures of Sophie going around when she dated Edward they married anyway.
I think Harry is now mature enough to know what he wants in a relationship. You act as though you have an investment in this and I am sorry to tell you no one has except for Harry. Who Harry marries has no impact on the country he is now so unlikely to be king he should have the freedom to marry like any other British citizen.
Quote from: amabel on April 18, 2017, 07:17:40 PM
well she had to have a carreer didn't she? She only met harry A year or 2 ago.
Not necessarily. Kate built her life around Will for about 8 years doing little. Meghan did not up and quit her career when she met Harry to be on call for him.
Meghan has a career unlike Kate who never really had one.
Well a lot of us love to criticize Kate here, but really are we comparing the careers of Kate, who started dating the future king of England at university to a woman who met a Prince at the age of 35?
Of course Meghan had to have a career, that does not make her special or better than Kate.
She is great at networking, married a producer and apparently got her lucrative job partly through the connections (I haven't watched Suits, but I asked my friends who do and they don't think she is a good actress). Her job also allows her to be free for what seems to be at least half of the year. It is not like she is working 9 to 5. She's just spent three months in London with Harry, a person with a regular job wouldn't have been able to do that. I don't get the impression of a workhorse here.
We don't know what Kate would have done had she not met William or met him at an older age. However, already Meghan turned down the Reitman contract (in December btw not now, it's only been reported now) and had to shut down The Tig. Her other social media have gone very quiet. All these adjustments within a few months of dating a guy who will never be the king, you know unlike the person Kate dated. She's also left her dogs to go live with Harry for three months.
So dating a prince requires sacrifices or keeping a prince means you adjust all your life accordingly, choose whichever explanation you'd like. Kate has been criticized for living her life for William, I see Meghan doing something similar. She still works for Suits however, and she has to, she has a contract. And unlike Kate who did not need an income, Meghan does need a job to sustain her lifestyle.
While at it, I have the same issue when people say Meghan does charity and Kate has never done so. Meghan started her charities in the last two or three years, so at 32 or 33 years old. That makes her better than Kate, who hadn't done charity until the age of 29, how? Especially when you consider that through social media and blogging, Meghan tried to build a new public image and charity for celebrities is PR 101.
I see a lot of people jumping on the Meghan ship because they dislike Kate. Well, to me, Kate, with her discretion started to look better in comparison.
Quote from: Eri on April 18, 2017, 09:49:04 PM
^ I am really incredulous at this "I don't like this news so it is fake" culture we live in right now ... Megan did pose for questionable pictures , has her own sister telling us a lot about how she is and the only acting she has ever done is THAT scene in the Beverly Hills reboot ... those are facts ... the fact you don't like it doesn't make it "fake" ...
The fact is you do not understand what I was referring to. It has nothing to do with what I like or not. There have been numerous examples of fake articles that all of the British tabloids, magazines, online blogs etc have created articles about that were not true. One simple example was back in February, when Meghan was photographed buying flowers near KP, numerous articles from various media about Meghan wearing a H ring for Harry. However there never was an H ring (fake news), in fact it was a double arrow ring by Missoma.
Oh, come on, Kate had years and years before she became engaged to William. She knew they would not marry at a young age. William implied in an interview that he wasn't thinking of marriage until he was older. He had to train and then go through military service first. What did Kate do precisely when she graduated, apart from keep herself free in case William wanted her?
She had a silly little part time job at Jigsaw, which lasted no time at all, and to which she was, according to fellow workers, hardly devoted. She also floated around, photographing pieces for her parents' company catalogue. You can hardly call that a career, at all.
She didn't know, at least until after 2007 that their romance was going to end in marriage. Did Kate throw herself into any charity work AT ALL two to three years before she married (or before) No, she didn't! She wasn't called Waity Katie for nothing! The Queen supposedly once asked 'What does Kate DO?' I'd love to know what the reply was. 'Well, er um, you see she can't really have a job because William has to see her when he can.'
This scenario lasted for years and years and it was said Kate once said she regretted not getting a job before she married, at 29. Not 20 not 22, 29! You can't compare that to someone in an extremely insecure profession who has at least got a resume of some work. I know a couple of struggling actresses and their lives mostly consist of audition after audition without getting anywhere.
So your friends consider Meghan a bad actress. Opinions can be extremely biased by all sorts of things can't they? She has at least been in Suits for six, coming up seven seasons. Her fellow actors and actresses in Suits have said that they enjoy their breaks throughout the year by relaxing with their families. Does that make them lazy too?
Kate's the epitome of laziness, and how she can ever be compared to someone who has only just finished contracts with Reitman's and ended The Tig is unbelievable.
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Oh, come on, Kate had years and years before she became engaged to William. She knew they would not marry at a young age. William implied in an interview that he wasn't thinking of marriage until he was older. He had to train and then go through military service first. What did Kate do precisely when she graduated, apart from keep herself free in case William wanted her?
She had a silly little part time job at Jigsaw, which lasted no time at all, and to which she was, according to fellow workers, hardly devoted. She also floated around, photographing pieces for her parents' company catalogue. You can hardly call that a career, at all.
She didn't know, at least until after 2007 that their romance was going to end in marriage. Did Kate throw herself into any charity work AT ALL two to three years before she married (or before) No, she didn't! She wasn't called Waity Katie for nothing! The Queen supposedly once asked 'What does Kate DO?' I'd love to know what the reply was. 'Well, er um, you see she can't really have a job because William has to see her when he can.'
This scenario lasted for years and years and it was said Kate once said she regretted not getting a job before she married, at 29. Not 20 not 22, 29! You can't compare that to someone in an extremely insecure profession who has at least got a resume of some work. I know a couple of struggling actresses and their lives mostly consist of audition after audition without getting anywhere.
So your friends consider Meghan a bad actress. Opinions can be extremely biased by all sorts of things can't they? She has at least been in Suits for six, coming up seven seasons. Her fellow actors and actresses in Suits have said that they enjoy their breaks throughout the year by relaxing with their families. Does that make them lazy too?
Kate's the epitome of laziness, and how she can ever be compared to someone who has only just finished contracts with Reitman's and ended The Tig is unbelievable.
I just read that Meghan now as a security detail, a team of people protecting her. They were picking her up and dropping off, waiting and then taking her home. When did that happen?
There were rumours ages ago that the Suits production team were giving Meghan extra protection. I think it was last year when there was all that ruckus after the KP statement. It could have flared up again with threats we don't know anything about. We all know there are nutters around everywhere and she's been attacked horribly on social media. Meghan might have received some specific threats. One thing we do know and that is these are not RPOs. No girlfriend is offered protection of that sort until an engagement is officially announced. That may be coming shortly, but not quite yet.
I watch Suits, I like it and Meghan's acting. I'm looking forward to the new season that's scheduled to start in July.
What is wrong with networking? One can even take courses that teach how to network successfully. Meghan has spoken about how she auditioned for numerous roles and didn't get the part or the tv pilot was not successful, until Suits. It is a huge accomplishment to be on a show that is starting it's 7th season, there are many actors, actresses, directors that would love to be in that position. There are too many misogynyst bullies out there who try to belittle women and their accomplishments. Meghan's co-worker, Sarah Rafferty has also spoken about how she found out about the show via a friend, she auditioned and got the role, successful networking IMO.
Acting may not be a 9-5 job, however there are times when you can be on set until the early hours of the morning, or other times you are not on set for a day. Where I live school teachers are off the summer months, June to September, so there are regular jobs that can give time off for a certain time period.
When Meghan was with Harry, we are aware that she went on a charity trip to India, wrote speeches and an article for Time magazine. I get the impression that she works hard and also enjoys leisure time, sounds like a well rounded person to me.
Quote from: psm on April 19, 2017, 12:52:03 AM
Well a lot of us love to criticize Kate here, but really are we comparing the careers of Kate, who started dating the future king of England at university to a woman who met a Prince at the age of 35?
Of course Meghan had to have a career, that does not make her special or better than Kate.
She is great at networking, married a producer and apparently got her lucrative job partly through the connections (I haven't watched Suits, but I asked my friends who do and they don't think she is a good actress). Her job also allows her to be free for what seems to be at least half of the year. It is not like she is working 9 to 5. She's just spent three months in London with Harry, a person with a regular job wouldn't have been able to do that. I don't get the impression of a workhorse here.
We don't know what Kate would have done had she not met William or met him at an older age. However, already Meghan turned down the Reitman contract (in December btw not now, it's only been reported now) and had to shut down The Tig. Her other social media have gone very quiet. All these adjustments within a few months of dating a guy who will never be the king, you know unlike the person Kate dated. She's also left her dogs to go live with Harry for three months.
So dating a prince requires sacrifices or keeping a prince means you adjust all your life accordingly, choose whichever explanation you'd like. Kate has been criticized for living her life for William, I see Meghan doing something similar. She still works for Suits however, and she has to, she has a contract. And unlike Kate who did not need an income, Meghan does need a job to sustain her lifestyle.
While at it, I have the same issue when people say Meghan does charity and Kate has never done so. Meghan started her charities in the last two or three years, so at 32 or 33 years old. That makes her better than Kate, who hadn't done charity until the age of 29, how? Especially when you consider that through social media and blogging, Meghan tried to build a new public image and charity for celebrities is PR 101.
I see a lot of people jumping on the Meghan ship because they dislike Kate. Well, to me, Kate, with her discretion started to look better in comparison.
Quote from: psm on April 19, 2017, 12:52:03 AM
Well a lot of us love to criticize Kate here, but really are we comparing the careers of Kate, who started dating the future king of England at university to a woman who met a Prince at the age of 35?
Of course Meghan had to have a career, that does not make her special or better than Kate.
She is great at networking, married a producer and apparently got her lucrative job partly through the connections (I haven't watched Suits, but I asked my friends who do and they don't think she is a good actress). Her job also allows her to be free for what seems to be at least half of the year. It is not like she is working 9 to 5. She's just spent three months in London with Harry, a person with a regular job wouldn't have been able to do that. I don't get the impression of a workhorse here.
We don't know what Kate would have done had she not met William or met him at an older age. However, already Meghan turned down the Reitman contract (in December btw not now, it's only been reported now) and had to who
I agree that IMO she's hardly particularly wonderful. She had to work, as I presume she needs to earn her living, unlike Kate who is from a rich family, and was dating the future King from early on.. Kate had no need of a career and while I dotn admire her lack of work-fullness, I don't see that Meghan's anything speiclal
Its admraible that she's ambitious, however, I don't know what her acting is like but it seems ot be in one TV series.. and her blogging and charity work seem to be the sort of thing that actresses and celebs "DO" nowadays, for PR.. I don't know how much time she spends on them or how much they mean to her. Perhaps if and when she is better known, other than "harry's new squeeze" there will be a bio that gives some interesting details.
As for Kate, yes she's not a worker never has been. So I've never understood why people seemed to think she was going to be soemthing wonderful in terms of her charity and royal work.. but this does have a plus side in that she does not have a career that she was going to miss, when she married Will. Meghan is an actress and usually actresses love to act, and she may find she hates the idea of giving it up. Even Grace Kelly who reputedly longed to get away from Hollywood, found that she was upset that her position meant that she could not do the occasional movie or bit of acting..
And Kate IS discreet, whereas Meghan's job forces a certain amount of needing to deal with the press and her public on her..
Quote from: Curryong on April 19, 2017, 03:03:44 AM
There were rumours ages ago that the Suits production team were giving Meghan extra protection. I think it was last year when there was all that ruckus after the KP statement. It could have flared up again with threats we don't know anything about. We all know there are nutters around everywhere and she's been attacked horribly on social media. Meghan might have received some specific threats. One thing we do know and that is these are not RPOs. No girlfriend is offered protection of that sort until an engagement is officially announced. That may be coming shortly, but not quite yet.
It's amazing 22 years old Chelsy AND Cressida did very well without security in a City like London even though I am sure they had nutters on them too ... but this 35 years old snowflake needs security in relatively quite Toronto REAL celebs go for tranquility ... me thinks she builds all this dramatics to keep Harry going ... that is the only way she could keep his attention for this long ... too bad for her it won't work forever ... Harry doesn't like dramas for too long ...
Actors on the Suits tv show have spoken about the increased security that is in place since Harry and Meghan began dating. One actor also spoke about the increased paps hanging around outside the studio where they film. The production team got the security.
You may not like her, however some of us do, and more importantly Harry and Meghan make a wonderful couple.
How exactly? they don't spend much time together.. its not clear what interests they share.. they are not even seen together much in the public realm,,, andI don't suppose they have talked about their private relationhsipp...
Which Royal and their girlfriend do talk about their private relationship before the engagement interview? Charles and Diana didn't, William and Kate didnt either and the Queen and Philip certainly never let the nation into their feelings, ever.
Apart from skiing, what hobbies did people know about William and Kate sharing in their early dating years, (or know of now) and how many photos were taken of them together?
What particular hobbies did Philip and the Queen share in their courting years? They were separated by Philip's naval career even after the war had finished. And they of course have been married for nearly 70 years now.
I'm sorry you're missing the point. what I meant was "how can we tellt that Harry and Meghan are a "great couple". They aren't seen pursuing any hobbies together.. so it is not clear what interests they share and enjoy. NATURALLY they haven't talked abuot their romance.. since they are keeping it discreet. THey live well away from each other, so they are not able to spend much time together..
Well, people probably called Princess Elizabeth and Philip a great couple when they were first outed together. Nobody ever asked what hobbies and interests they shared or why they weren't often together because of his naval career and her Royal duties. Nobody questioned their rightness for each other in spite of little or no shared hobbies.
William was away from Kate for weeks at a time during his military training. These two didn't seem to have too many common interests together either, though people fawned over them. However, both couples married and had children and have remained together in spite of it, as no doubt will Harry and Meghan.
Quote from: psm on April 19, 2017, 12:52:03 AM
Well a lot of us love to criticize Kate here, but really are we comparing the careers of Kate, who started dating the future king of England at university to a woman who met a Prince at the age of 35?
Of course Meghan had to have a career, that does not make her special or better than Kate.
She is great at networking, married a producer and apparently got her lucrative job partly through the connections (I haven't watched Suits, but I asked my friends who do and they don't think she is a good actress). Her job also allows her to be free for what seems to be at least half of the year. It is not like she is working 9 to 5. She's just spent three months in London with Harry, a person with a regular job wouldn't have been able to do that. I don't get the impression of a workhorse here.
We don't know what Kate would have done had she not met William or met him at an older age. However, already Meghan turned down the Reitman contract (in December btw not now, it's only been reported now) and had to shut down The Tig. Her other social media have gone very quiet. All these adjustments within a few months of dating a guy who will never be the king, you know unlike the person Kate dated. She's also left her dogs to go live with Harry for three months.
So dating a prince requires sacrifices or keeping a prince means you adjust all your life accordingly, choose whichever explanation you'd like. Kate has been criticized for living her life for William, I see Meghan doing something similar. She still works for Suits however, and she has to, she has a contract. And unlike Kate who did not need an income, Meghan does need a job to sustain her lifestyle.
While at it, I have the same issue when people say Meghan does charity and Kate has never done so. Meghan started her charities in the last two or three years, so at 32 or 33 years old. That makes her better than Kate, who hadn't done charity until the age of 29, how? Especially when you consider that through social media and blogging, Meghan tried to build a new public image and charity for celebrities is PR 101.
I see a lot of people jumping on the Meghan ship because they dislike Kate. Well, to me, Kate, with her discretion started to look better in comparison.
What has Meghan done that has been indiscreet? :blink: Good your friends dont like her acting but what does that have to do with the conversation?
For someone that most of you just knew back in November,you sure know alot about her personal life.This is a woman that has talked about her struggles in getting jobs and how she used to go from auditions to auditions in her beat down car and you suggest she got suits through her ex husband,how do you know? or did you you just make it up. :notamused: Even if she got suits from her ex husband's connections, the producers obviously liked her enough to keep her character for 7 seasons rather than stop it.
"There's none so blind as those who will not see"
It's obvious that Meghan and Harry are in a very serious relationship, she's a mature woman, not a little girl, she would not abandon her job, her source of income, If she was not safe. She and Harry must have talked about it, nobody would give up such important things were it not for a good cause
This is an excellent article and I believe it.
Prince Harry?s Love Meghan Markle 'Accepted' By Royal Family - Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-harrys-love-meghan-markle-accepted-by-royal-family-w477446)
It's amazing 22 years old Chelsy AND Cressida did very well without security in a City like London even though I am sure they had nutters on them too ... but this 35 years old snowflake needs security in relatively quite Toronto REAL celebs go for tranquility ... me thinks she builds all this dramatics to keep Harry going ... that is the only way she could keep his attention for this long ... too bad for her it won't work forever ... Harry doesn't like dramas for too long ...
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you are always talking about Meghan's age, what's your problem? you have 15 years? Because to find a woman of 35 years "old", you must be a teenager. Harry is 32 years old, Chelsy 31 ... anyway, everyone is in the same age group. "Dull" Cressida is 28 years old, is also not a little girl, not to mention that she appears to have much more . So, your attacks in relation to the age of Meghan are unfounded
35 is young today. 35 was considered middle age in medieval times.
Its quite some time since Harry was with Chelsy.. so I assume she was in her 20s whne they were dating..
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Quote from: Curryong on April 19, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
Well, people probably called Princess Elizabeth and Philip a great couple when they were first outed together. Nobody ever asked what hobbies and interests they shared or why they weren't often together because of his naval career and her Royal duties. Nobody questioned their rightness for each other in spite of little or no shared hobbies.
William was away from Kate for weeks at a time during his military training. These two didn't seem to have too many common interests together either, though people fawned over them. However, both couples married and had children and have remained together in spite of it, as no doubt will Harry and Meghan.
I'm not talking about Will and Kate or the queen and Philip. I'm saying "how can people be so sure that Meghan and Harry are a great couple?" when it is a private and long distance relationship... and they're not seen together very much...
Quote from: sandy on April 19, 2017, 07:31:16 PM
35 is young today. 35 was considered middle age in medieval times.
Or even elderly!!! People often married in their teens so a 35 year old could easily be a grandparent.
^ And 35 year olds are sometimes grandparents today unfortunately! Maybe I'm reading too much tabloid stuff!
Victoria and Albert were grandparents for the first time at 39 of course, when the future Kaiser Bill was born to their eldest daughter Vicky Princess Friedrich, and I suppose that was pretty young even by 19th century standards.
We are so furtunate in the 21st century that most of us in the West, with good luck, can hope to see our 80th birthdays. Even a hundred years ago 40 was considered middle age and 70 was old, old. 35 certainly isn't middle aged nowadays.
Elizabeth Taylor became a grandmother at age 39. She married at a young age and so did her son so she was at a young age to be a grandmother. But Elizabeth Taylor was young and glamorous and not "middle aged."
QuoteAnd 35 year olds are sometimes grandparents today unfortunately! Maybe I'm reading too much tabloid stuff!
Have had the opportunity to see that more than once as a teacher. :no:
Back to Harry and Meghan's relationship. If they're keen on starting a family then they do need to keep an eye on the calendar/clock. While many women do become first time mothers in their mid-late thirties, they wouldn't want to wait too long.
No, indeed. If there's an engagement this year and a wedding next Spring there will be time for two offspring perhaps, if they're very lucky. My daughter waited until she was in her mid thirties to marry. No luck conceiving so IVF was tried, thankfully only once, and bingo, twins.
I know there are all these stories of celebrities having babies into their late forties, and good luck to them if it really does happen easily like that. However, look at the trouble Sophie Wessex had in producing two live, healthy children.
@Curryong-Like your daughter I was in my mid-thirties when I married. We were very fortunate that I was able to have two easy pregnancies without needing intervention, but others that I know have struggled past thirty.
Good on you, TLLK! Yes, some who marry later have no trouble producing babies. It is a fact though that fertility decreases year by year in one's thirties and as Harry especially has always said he's looking forward to having a family, best that the couple marry reasonably soon IMO, and start practising!
This is absurd ... besides the fact that no one around Harry is as INSANE as a wedding happening this Year ... Sophie is Sophie and other women in their 40's have children without issues ... we don't know if age was a factor in Sophie's issues but I don't remember her having children in her midd 40's :unsure: ... besides ... the fact she is 35 doesn't mean he has to marry her this Year ... absurd ...besides ... he just SAYS he wants a wife and children his lips say it but his actions say otherwise or he wouldn't date this very unsuitable woman ... because Harry acts on a vim he would always be made to wait to marry and I can only imagine even more with this one who let us not forget was basically married with a another man just last Year ...
The plot thickens with H and MM and only these two know the plot.
With her toning things down and sort of having outs in her career, well...hmmm...I wonder. We wonder. Everyone wonders and will just wonder and that is that.
Quote from: amabel on April 19, 2017, 07:33:20 PM
Its quite some time since Harry was with Chelsy.. so I assume she was in her 20s whne they were dating..
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I guess you did not understand what I meant. It's obvious that Chelsy was younger when he dated Harry, just as Meghan , but now everyone is in the same age group. Eri loves to say that Meghan is old, as if Harry's ex-girlfriends were still young girls and Harry too, so I'd say that.
I also don't understand why people talk so much about pregnancy. Today women have children more and more later. George Clooney's wife is 39 years old and is pregnant with twins, a very famous television presenter here in my country is 43 years old and pregnant. My sister had her second child at age 37, it is not because Sophie had problems that other women will also have and Meghan seems to be very healthy (mind and body)
Chelsy was 19 when they started dating and she seemed to handle all the attention and abuse better than Megan Cressida , was 23 when they started dating and she too seemed to handle all the attention and abuse better than Megan ... it seems to me this one is a drama queen about all the "attention" she would have killed for this time last Year only to keep Harry's interest ... she would have been history a long time ago without the dramatics and she knows it ... he can't tolerate her for more than 10 Days ... I hope we finally cleared what my post was all about ... it seems some jump on my posts without reading anything of what I read just wrote just because they don't agree with my now known opinions without bothering to read my comments ...
Eri why are you so obsessed with Harry's exes? This forum is called Harry&Meghan.Forget his exes,that's why they are exes because he is dating Meghan now.
. Meghan is doing just fine and I don't see her as a drama queen, she has an established career and as an actress would need PR, they just can't hide out. She is not history and maybe never will be.
^^ Two examples of what I just said ... at this point I don't get if it's my fault because English isn't my first language or if my posts are even read at all ... who knows ... but looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool @ Megan being an accomplished actress wonder what movie you saw with her or if you knew Suits existed before she posted those bananas on her Instagram ...
She still is an actress in a TV show. I did not grade her as an actress. the fact is she is in a TV show watched by audiences. She has an established career and even if you don't like her acting, others do.
Quote from: LadyLenox on April 20, 2017, 01:58:34 PM
Eri why are you so obsessed with Harry's exes? This forum is called Harry&Meghan.Forget his exes,that's why they are exes because he is dating Meghan now.
Hmm I seem to rembmer endless posting about "Harry's exes" in the past few years, till this Meghan came along with people insisting that "Their" girl was about to renew her romance with Harry.. so obvioulsy, some of his fans are indeed obsessed with the idea of his getting Married and if he's not in a relationship, they go on about his previous girlfriends and insist that he's going to soon be married ot whichever one they favour.
'Wow I have missed a lot but somethings never change N
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Sorry my I pad is acting strange I think Meghan is lovely and Harry will marry her before the year is over . Used to the lime light and she can give a speech . Hate to pick on Kate but she sounded terrible today Good luck to them
I think that until, or unless, we see Meghan moving to England, that all this talk about marriage is a bit premature.
I don't think she'd move before an engagement happens.
I think she should move to England if she is interested in a long term relationship with Harry ... the Transatlantic relationship they have now would end in disaster if they marry without at least living together for a while ... I will start thinking they have something different from his previous relationships if they survive 2017 and she move to London ... until then all signs point to the fact this will end sooner than his other relationships ...
^^ I think Meg should move to London when she and Harry think that it is best. As they are in a relationship they will know when it is the most appropriate time to live together.
They should move in together after they are married.
QuotePrince Harry asked if he is 'happier' with Meghan Markle in his life – see his response
Prince Harry has been fervently speaking out about mental health this week, even revealing that he sought counselling following the death of his mother Diana, Princess of Wales. The Prince has been spilling his thoughts for his Heads Together mental health campaign, but when it comes to answering questions about his love life, Harry is keeping his cards close to his chest.
When asked by Sky News' Rhiannon Mills whether he was feeling "happier" now that he had a certain lady in his life, Harry tactfully dodged the question about his girlfriend Meghan Markle, bringing the interview back to his mental health campaign. "You seem in a really good place at the moment, you seem very focused on what you want to do, but you also seem to be very happy. Is that partly to do with having a lady in your life?" asked Rhiannon.
"I think, I think the point that we've learnt over this campaign is that if you talk, if you're able and comfortable enough to be able to talk about certain issues, certain experiences, then you come out of it a far better person," replied Harry. "But you're in a good place at the moment?" asked Rhiannon. "Yeah, of course, I'm in a good place, we're all in a good place and we want the UK to be in a good place as well," said Harry.
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Quote from: Yale on April 21, 2017, 12:56:17 PM
They should move in together after they are married.
eh? I'd say they shoudl be trying out their relationship on a steady basis, if they are relaly thinking of marriage. They should be discreetly living together for a while
I just think it would be a lot for her to move AFTER they got married. She'd be jumping into royal life, while also getting used to living in a different country.
It would have to be after they get engaged IMO.
Quote from: Eri on April 21, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
I think she should move to England if she is interested in a long term relationship with Harry ... the Transatlantic relationship they have now would end in disaster if they marry without at least living together for a while ... I will start thinking they have something different from his previous relationships if they survive 2017 and she move to London ... until then all signs point to the fact this will end sooner than his other relationships ...
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There is no "requirement" for living together first in the royal family. It is their business. Unless the two are committed to a future together, I doubt they would just live together to check off some hypothetical requirement that they live together first. I see no such "signs."
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Quote from: amabel on April 21, 2017, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: Yale on April 21, 2017, 12:56:17 PM
They should move in together after they are married.
eh? I'd say they shoudl be trying out their relationship on a steady basis, if they are relaly thinking of marriage. They should be discreetly living together for a while
I don't think that is necessarily a requirement for every couple. Kate and William lived together only intermittently. She was mostly living with her parents and spent weekends with William. They did not set up permanent residence together pre engagement. It is up to the couple not some hypothetical "rules."
Quote from: Lothwen on April 21, 2017, 08:24:48 PM
I just think it would be a lot for her to move AFTER they got married. She'd be jumping into royal life, while also getting used to living in a different country.
well not that IMO it will happen but yes. I would imagine that given she's American as well as not from a family that knows the RF, the QUeen and Harry would be particularly keen for her to spend as much time iwht H as possible before they do get engaged...so that she'll have a solid relationship with him..A long distance relationship iwht a few bits of being together in between other commitments isn't really a great basis for getting used to normal married life...
Living together pre marriage is not a prerequisite for a good marriage. It is up to the couple. They may want children and want to get married sooner than later. Sophie and Edward waited and she had some childbearing issues after they married and wanted to start a family. Harry and Meghan are not in their twenties and considering that perhaps don't want to wait a few years living together first.
I'm excited. She is American born and raised and half black and will be a British princess. That will be significant and an extremely positive way!!! I read somewhere that Afro Brits are excited about Meghan and the prospect of having the first British princess of color in the BRF. I need to try and find it. Ya'll it is just as big as having the first Black President of the United States elected in 2008. Seriously!!!
Except neither Meghan or Obama are black.It makes it seem like their white parent never existed when that's said.They are both mixed,not black.It is exciting although not the first time it's happened.
Quote from: LadyLenox on April 22, 2017, 04:27:03 PM
Except neither Meghan or Obama are black.It makes it seem like their white parent never existed when that's said.They are both mixed,not black.It is exciting although not the first time it's happened.
I am not going to debate this but on this we disagree. It is exciting though.
What's exciting about it exactly? She's just a bit different, to some of Harry's other girls. she's an actress.. like lots of people.. including one of H's previous girlfriends. What Is exiciting about it.. and I agree that she is mixed race like Obama
I get the distinct feeling that many of her majesty's subjects are not quite ready for a part-black, divorced, publicity-hungry, social media-posting, aspiring American actress as a royal princess; but we will wait and see. The monarchy has admitted much, much worse in its midst over the years so I supposed Meghan cannot do any worse. As far as I can tell she is not about to stab Harry in the middle of the night or perform a strip tease at a state banquet so I reckon she will ok.
how likely is it that any woman a prince marries is going to do either of these things? Or which wives have done something like this? I think that Meghan may find adjustment hard if she does marry him.. and that's a reason why I think that he is not ready to marry her and the queen may advise waiting. She is from a different culture, she's not lived in the UK ever. She has a career, and actresses generally like to act so giving it up is hard. Even Grace Kelly, who was said to hate Hollywood found that she missed acting and was disappointed when she realised that she could not go back ot it.. She is as you've said "Publicity hungry" and may nto be able to adjust to the less "Publicity chasing" upper class ways of the British culture..
She is divorced... She's not very young and so adaptable.. IF she's into blogging IMO she has something to sell or she really thinks the world wants to hear her thoughts.. - not awlasy advisable for a royal...
Harry and Meghan determine if or when they are ready for marriage. She is not "publicity hungry" she is doing what other performers have done since the first movie fan magazine, used publicity. She can't hide out and disappear. I don't see why she is knocked for that. How is it known she is reluctant not to act anymore? There have been other divorced people marrying into the royal family.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on April 22, 2017, 09:41:22 PM
I get the distinct feeling that many of her majesty's subjects are not quite ready for a part-black, divorced, publicity-hungry, social media-posting, aspiring American actress as a royal princess; but we will wait and see. The monarchy has admitted much, much worse in its midst over the years so I supposed Meghan cannot do any worse. As far as I can tell she is not about to stab Harry in the middle of the night or perform a strip tease at a state banquet so I reckon she will ok.
I would not say "many" in this day and age. Unless civilization has backslided. She is an actress and they do use publicity and don't sit home like wallflowers. PRoduction companies promote her show and they don't want their actors and actresses hiding out.
Kate already stripped down to her underwear with filmy top at University and her photo of her on the catwalk has been seen umpteen times as well as her fashion malfunctions. She is no wallflower herself.
The royals use social media now, even the Pope does. Nothing "sinful" about that.
So she's part black? So what. She and Harry will have beautiful children if they get married.
Sandy, don't bother and they can say and think whatever they want. I am tired of responding to such ridiculous comments!! I say that only because they act as if their dislike of Meghan and their opinion would make a difference to Harry even if he knew how they felt .
Meghan is American and a black woman a as well as white that makes her unique and special. British citizens can like it or lump it if they don't approve, because Harry IS going to marry Meghan of that is what he wants to do and all of us know it! That KP statement he had released last year basically told anyone in the world that disapproves of Meghan for whatever reason to gotta hell. And the Queen is not going to tell Harry "No" He cannot marry Meghan. And I would bet my bottom dollar he has already spoken to his grandmother about marrying Meghan.
I am also tired of it being brought up about her being divorced!!!!! Charles is divorced and he married to a woman who is divorced and HE IS STILL heir to the throne! Therefore ,that argument and case is CLOSED!
I'm also not sure why her divorce is continuously brought up as well? Half of his family is divorced and so many other UK citizens.How long will the BRF have to pretend they are perfect when they aren't? Harry is 32,he wasn't going to find a woman his age that wasn't divorced or a virgin.People think another Diana will come waltzing into his life and that's not happening.I can't imagine Harry wants an arranged marriage with anyone.If he begged her to date him then he is her type and he knew that and is still with her.Anyone else's opinion is mute to him so these people can cyberbully her all they want behind their computer screens but it's not changing the fact that she gets the ring.
Quote from: Yale on April 23, 2017, 01:04:27 AM
Sandy, don't bother and they can say and think whatever they want. I am tired of responding to such ridiculous comments!! I say that only because they act as if their dislike of Meghan and their opinion would make a difference to Harry even if he knew how they felt .
Meghan is American and a black woman a as well as white that makes her unique and special.
how does that make her unique and special? There are problaby millions of mixed race americans. She is just one of many...
English humor can be a bit confusing. If you really read my last message carefully, you will see that I am actually supporting Meghan. Not everything is literal or to be taken literally. :thumbsup:
Quote from: LadyLenox on April 23, 2017, 01:23:49 AM
I'm also not sure why her divorce is continuously brought up as well? Half of his family is divorced and so many other UK citizens.How long will the BRF have to pretend they are perfect when they aren't? Harry is 32,he wasn't going to find a woman his age that wasn't divorced or a virgin.People think another Diana will come waltzing into his life and that's not happening.I can't imagine Harry wants an arranged marriage with anyone.If he begged her to date him then he is her type and he knew that and is still with her.Anyone else's opinion is mute to him so these people can cyberbully her all they want behind their computer screens but it's not changing the fact that she gets the ring.
The positon of the Monarch as Supreme Governor of the C of E means that while it is not forbidden for him to divorce, or remarry after a divorce, it is still an issue. and who says he begged her to date him?? Harldly likely..
I also find it absurd to talk about divorce. What's the problem Meghan be divorced, if several people in the royal family are too? And even more absurd, is to say that Meghan is not so young. Harry is 32, what want? He date an 18 year old girl ?? He's only 3 years younger than her. For me, Meghan is perfect! She will know how to handle the media, she seems strong, focused and mature
Quote from: amabel on April 23, 2017, 08:54:46 AM
Quote from: LadyLenox on April 23, 2017, 01:23:49 AM
I'm also not sure why her divorce is continuously brought up as well? Half of his family is divorced and so many other UK citizens.How long will the BRF have to pretend they are perfect when they aren't? Harry is 32,he wasn't going to find a woman his age that wasn't divorced or a virgin.People think another Diana will come waltzing into his life and that's not happening.I can't imagine Harry wants an arranged marriage with anyone.If he begged her to date him then he is her type and he knew that and is still with her.Anyone else's opinion is mute to him so these people can cyberbully her all they want behind their computer screens but it's not changing the fact that she gets the ring.
The positon of the Monarch as Supreme Governor of the C of E means that while it is not forbidden for him to divorce, or remarry after a divorce, it is still an issue. and who says he begged her to date him?? Harldly likely..
Well the British royals don't think so. Charles was divorced, Anne was divorced, Andrew was divorced, Margaret was divorced. Charles married for a second time to a divorcee. Anne married again after her divorce.
I am going to just throw this out there....
Now no one has said a word especially Meghan and Harry, but if Meghan is written out this season of "Suits" then Harry has already proposed to her and she accepted. I doubt she'd leave that show then he'd propose. He would want to catch her off guard as to not suspect something to surprise her. All we have to do is wait and watch.
I think he already proposed and she accepted. They are engaged.
AGAIN. Pardon me for repeating.
Aslo, just commenting on some points some of you brought up.
. Her divorce. She is divorced. She was married before.
1- HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE BEAT THIS SUBECT?
Hardly a stance or issue when the Heir, PC, divorced his wife, and married a divorced woman and the whole PC, PD and Rotweiller story. Yes, I said Rotweiller and I cannot be edited by the moderators for that because PD referred to Camila as a Rotweiller. Camilla also referred to PD as " That Ridiculous Creature."
MM being divorced is hardly an issue in 2017 when PC , the heir is divorced and Queen Camilla to be and all that drama of their being.
2--------PH , THANK GOD, will never be or have a chance being King Henry #____ of England because of the deaths of PC, PW, George and Charlotte due to beheadings, mysterious deaths, the Plague and those things.
PH will never be King Henry #____ of England. Someone brought up about the Monarchy/Monarch, but he is not going to be the Sovereign/King/Monarch because , as of 2017, he is way down the list as number 5th in line. I would not be surprised f PW and PK have another child and stop at 3 being from a family of 3. Then again, she has her pair, one of each so maybe 2 is it for her.
3-------LIVING TOGETHER. Because she is in a unique situation , I would think not. She and PH are an older couple and if, when they get engaged, it will be wedding planning time, TTB tutoring her, living in a secure place for protection form paps, media etc., like St.JP, KP, BP. They do not have years to date that long for years and live together for years. When people get of a certain age, it is make up your mind about each other or move on. Find and date people who have your same interests .
PW and K lived together with the friends while in college. Then they moved in together. Correction here to some of you. After college, lets say, PW and K visited each other for long periods of time, LOL!!!
No London Marathon for our Royal in waiting :hehe: ... it must be because while she is OK for a bozzy weekend with Tom she will never be OK to be seen anywhere near Will or Kate ... whoever thinks this woman will be his wife is in for a huge disappointment ... everything is possible of course ... but all signs point to the fact this will end even sooner than his other relationships ...
Eri, and I get it, you do not approve of MM. Ok. That is ok.
Some boozy weekend with Tom was Tom's wedding and really an inside place for PH to showcase MM.
This was not a boozy weekend in LAS Vegas with Tom marrying in some Elvis /Britney Vegas chapel on the strip with about five people in attendance.
MM has visited PH at KP a few times. Rumor has it , she met with PW and K. PH is close with PW/L. Any woman would have to be a fit with them .
^Problem is she in not in London long enough to build a steady relationship with Harry let alone meet Kate ... COME ON NOW ... some think just because he put a statement on a whim like he does most things and he is 32 he will marry someone he met last July ... what I say to that is that is it seems to me those people know NOTHING ABOUT Harry ...
How do others know how much time they need to build a steady relationship? It is up to them not outsiders looking in. How do you know what Harry thinks or what he's like?
Quote from: sandy on April 24, 2017, 01:36:03 PM
How do others know how much time they need to build a steady relationship? It is up to them not outsiders looking in. How do you know what Harry thinks or what he's like?
That is just what I have been saying!!! THANK YOU!! I am serious!! Some of these posters are acting like women scorned! It's as if they have some sort secret crush on Harry and they don't want anyone to have him especially an half black American woman, which is what I really think all this is REALLY coming from. I would have more respect for their opinions if they would just admit it instead of making silly comments like the relationship would be over by December 2016 or that Harry is just using Meghan as a bed warmer. If that was the case, she not have attended his best friend's wedding with him! Some of you need to get a grip.
^ Some think it will be over soon and some think they will marry soon ... neither is right ... that's the fun of it all we speculate about a total stranger's life ... we don't know ... the press married him off to Chelsy when he had her as his plus one at his brother's wedding which tops a fun weekend in Jamaica or has she been taken to a Royal Duty near the Yorks like Cressida was ... see ... in both cases even though the press and some people married him off in the past he broke up with both his girlfriends a short time later ... so we don't know what will happen or what Harry's plans are again that's the fun part we are all here for ...
Whatever "some" think. It is up to the couple. How do you know who is "right"? Chelsy and Harry came off a "cooling off period" in 2011 and I don't recall optimism by the press re: a possible marriage. But again past relationships are not really relevant here. Harry does not have "cookie cutter" girlfriends who do the same thing, or Stepford girlfriends.
Harry is not doomed to repeat the same actions with the girlfriends all acting the same way and Harry acting the same way. this is not the Twilight Zone.
It definitely is up to the couple. :thumbsup:
But, I think he won't marry her because of her dysfunctional family. Her sister publishing a smear book on her even before she's engaged to Harry displays some serious messiness in the Markle family. I think the relationship will run its course by late 2017 year or early next year.
^ Meghan has seen the woman once in the last twenty three years. Samantha is a half sister who has been ranting about her since late last year. If Harry was going to give up Meghan because of that he would have done so before now. Anyway, in Samantha's latest rave about the book she stated that it was going to be a tribute to her half sister.
Quote from: tiaras on April 25, 2017, 07:17:06 AM
I think the relationship will run its course by late 2017 year or early next year.
That's really too bad- honestly, that's a lot of time to waste in a relationship at their age. If Harry has any desire to have kids, he's probably making more strategic relationship decisions at this point in life. He ain't no spring chicken, as they say!
Quote from: tiaras on April 25, 2017, 07:17:06 AM
It definitely is up to the couple. :thumbsup:
But, I think he won't marry her because of her dysfunctional family. Her sister publishing a smear book on her even before she's engaged to Harry displays some serious messiness in the Markle family. I think the relationship will run its course by late 2017 year or early next year.
Well the royals are not exactly "wholesome" themselves--lots of skeletons in the closet. Harry has his own issues as does his family. I don't think people will pay attention much to the book. And Kate and William married despite Uncle Gary's confessions which were really embarrassing.
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Quote from: tiaras on April 25, 2017, 07:17:06 AM
I think the relationship will run its course by late 2017 year or early next year.
That's really too bad- honestly, that's a lot of time to waste in a relationship at their age. If Harry has any desire to have kids, he's probably making more strategic relationship decisions at this point in life. He ain't no spring chicken, as they say!
She is wasting her time more than he his ... but who knows ... not everyone wants children ... she had a marriage and a semi marriage if she wanted kids I think she would have at least one by now ... she is in it for the publicity as she is seasoned enough to know nothing of relevance is going to happen between them ... as for Harry ... his lips say he wants children but his actions tell otherwise ... again it's a good thing Harry WON'T be tied down as not everyone wants to change dippers ... you would think people would have learned what happens when you pressure someone to marry at any cost with someone ... ANYONE just because he is a certain age from his father ... this is ridiculous ... let the man live ...
Meghan is the one to judge if she's wasting time or not. It's her business. Harry wants children and I think Meghan does too or else she'd have broken up with him. She had a marriage that broke up there is no such thing as a "semi marriage." How do you know what she's in it for? You think the worst of her in any case. So you are saying Harry is pretending to want children?! How do you know? He did not have to say he wanted children but he did. Harry won't have to change diapers, royals have nannies to do that. Let the man live?! Really?! So why do you make judgment calls and ascribe motives for Harry and Meghan being in Their Relationship.
Sandy, Harry and Meghan relationship will surpass this year and 2018 into marriage. If Harry was worried about Meghan's family he would have ended by now and you know this so why even respond to such comments?
Posters are saying anything to convince themselves that this relationship is not real and you's think they knew him on a personal level judging by their comments.
Quote from: tiaras on April 25, 2017, 07:17:06 AM
It definitely is up to the couple. :thumbsup:
But, I think he won't marry her because of her dysfunctional family. Her sister publishing a smear book on her even before she's engaged to Harry displays some serious messiness in the Markle family. I think the relationship will run its course by late 2017 year or early next year.
Thankfully Harry has a much more reliable and supportive sibling in William. However, Harry doesn't come from a perfect family either, yet another thing he shares with Meghan. Both of Harry's parents participated in interviews and books that caused pain and embarrassment for their family. It was after the separate television interviews by Prince Charles and Princess Diana that The Queen allowed them to proceed to divorce.
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@Lady Deb I'd not considered that this was something that the couple have in common.
It wasn't quite the same, albeit it was stupid behaviour ont eh part of Diana and Charles. they were in a unique situation and both probably felt they had no option but ot go public about their marriage ot get the Queen to agree to a divorce. however Meghan's sister seems to be that "difficult family member" that a lot of celebs have, who make money "dishing the dirt" on her famous silbing. Roseanne Barr's sister did the same I believe. I'd say the queen's very uneasy about letting Harry wed someone who has a volatile sister who might be writing tell all books about her, for years to come.
^ I don't see how people can write 'tell all' books about people they have seen once in a quarter of a century. And considering Samantha's behaviour I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan has decided never to see her again.
Let's make this clear.
Samantha is a half sister to Meghan. She moved out of her father's house at seventeen when Radia (Meghan's mother) was expecting a baby.
Samantha didn't like having a black stepmother and told school friends she was the maid.
From then on Meghan saw Samantha at family get togethers only. When Meghan was twelve Samantha moved back home for a couple of months, because she was between houses.
Following this, Meghan saw her irregularly at extended family occasions. Then, about 2O years ago probably as a result of developing MS, Samantha started quarrelling with her relatives.
This began to include Meghan, who a few years ago happened to support Samantha's then teenage daughter who claimed her mother was abusive and left home because of it. Meghan has supported her niece through her Uni days and until now.
Samantha has continued to rage on Twitter about her relatives. She threatened to write a tell-all book about 'growing up in a bi-racial household'. As we know, that ended for her when Meghan was born.
Attacked by the media for latching on to her half sister and then attacking her on Twitter, Samantha then stated it was going to be a 'tribute book' to her half sister. She'd previously said the title was going to be 'Growing up with Princess Pushy' Her own relatives' revelations have shown that title to be ludicrous.
yes we all have embarrassing relatives. But the fact that this woman is prepared to write a book must unnerve the RF...
Why would it unnerve them? If she writes anything libellous after they are married it will doubtless be banned in the UK as other books about the royals have been.
The tabloids will be told that Meghan and Samantha haven't spoken more than once in decades, and her sister knows nothing about her adult life, and they'll tell their readers so, or they won't get interviews, photo ops with Harry and his new wife.
Richard Palmer, who has links within the Royal Household was told months ago that Meghan's relatives (the two that had spoken out, one favourably, one not) were regarded as an irritant, but that Harry's happiness was paramount.
Hey, Curryong I've been meaning to ask, why do you call Meghan's mum Radia? Wikipedia says her name is Doria? Or is that wrong?
For God sake ... I don't get all the name calling her sister gets ... I didn't need her to see Megan is a pushy social climber there was no breaking news there ... I love how her gun trotting brother is totally OK for Megan's two fans but her sister who says some things they don't like is called all sorts of names ... oh to be a fly on the wall if my man Phil meets those people ... not that it will ever get that far ...
It's me! I always forget Meghan's mum's name when I'm typing fast! :blush:
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Oh, Meghan has plenty of fans. There are several on here, more than two and some on other forums. When people get used to her after the engagement there'll be more.
^ lol, I was hoping I'd caught some insider knowledge :wink:
Quote from: Curryong on April 26, 2017, 07:39:41 AM
It's me! I always forget Meghan's mum's name when I'm typing fast! :blush:
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Oh, Meghan has plenty of fans. There are several on here, more than two and some on other forums. When people get used to her after the engagement there'll be more.
She has with her the same people who I noticed spend their Days name calling and abusing Cressida ... which is mind blowing since her crime was being an actress and having Instagram ... now the MILLIONS not liking this woman are being called jealous and wanting to date Harry a balding man with no real money , a job or status given the existence of George and Charlotte but those same people disliked Cressida for that very same reason ... jealousy ... I remember the same girls lusting after her brother Jacobi called him anything but the devil after she had the nerve to date Harry ... I am here just laughing at those people because I am sure they are just trying to save face after laughing at pointing at Cressida after she DUMPED HIS BEHIND saying he would do 1000 times better but here he is stuck with a middle aged divorcee ... KARMA is A WONDERFUL thing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ...
Harry is with Meghan now, the exes are irrelevant. Harry has "real money" and a "job."
^ Feel free to tell me what J.O.B has he taken on ... Harry has no real money and let's get real here that is why he is still to find a woman that bares with his antics long term ... Megan will run like the others did once they spend more than 7 Days together and she realizes he is even less relevant than Andrew as Andrew is actually son of a MONARCH ... let's get real here this woman won't sign up for a life of walking three steps behind Kate ...
Quote from: Curryong on April 26, 2017, 06:54:20 AM
Why would it unnerve them? If she writes anything libellous after they are married it will doubtless be banned in the UK as other books about the royals have been.
The tabloids will be told that Meghan and Samantha haven't spoken more than once in decades, and her sister knows nothing about her adult life, and they'll tell their readers so, or they won't get interviews, photo ops with Harry and his new wife.
I'm sure they don't want Harry to be marired to a woman who has a very volatile relative.. who needs to be staved off with lawsuits.
^ or two... Samantha Markle Grant is one thing, I think most people see her as a bitter, greedy woman. But Thomas Markle Jr is another problem. Can you imagine the headlines if he is arrested for assault, or DUI or... anything really, post royal wedding? Poor Meghan, it's not her fault, but I do believe it will be held against her.
whos' that? a brother?
^ Yep, Meghan's half brother. He got arrested in December? January? For holding a gun to his girlfriend's head.
He and his son gave an interview in November, I think it was, saying only nice things about Meghan, but also indicating that if Harry hurt their sister/aunt they'd "deal with him", which was cringe worthy and very very tacky.
^ Meghan's half brother was cleared of those charges. It didn't go to court. Again, Meghan hasn't seen him for years. He and his girlfriend are the ones who provided British tabs with photos of Meg as a child and in her early teens. They didn't have any later ones.
Harry AND his brother won't be employed in civilian work after July when William leaves EAAS. They'll be full time royals, that's how royalty in Britain works. The Queen will die eventually and then Harry will be the son of a monarch. By the latest calculations Harry has about £40 million, and there will be more when the Queen and Charles pass on. Relevant? He's a senior Royal and as a future King's only other son and other brother and uncle to the next two Harry will still be in the spotlight.
@ Curryong no matter how much you explain that Harry is a senior royal and his job is supporting the monarchy or that he will be the son of a Monarch is totally alien to a certain someone. Lets face it even his worth is all fake since his income is from Trusts set up by his mother and the QM not to mention he inherited money from his grandfather the 8Th Earl Spencer. As for walking three steps behind Kate well even as Queen Consort Kate will have to walk a step behind William as that certain posters man Phil has done for the last 60 odd years. So why bother explaining. I personally think Harry is quite taken by Meghan and she is quite taken by Harry they have only been together almost a year and they seem to make being together a priority when both have time off. Meghan at the moment has contractual obligations to Suits so filming takes up much of her time.
Quote from: amabel on April 26, 2017, 06:20:48 PM
Quote from: Curryong on April 26, 2017, 06:54:20 AM
Why would it unnerve them? If she writes anything libellous after they are married it will doubtless be banned in the UK as other books about the royals have been.
The tabloids will be told that Meghan and Samantha haven't spoken more than once in decades, and her sister knows nothing about her adult life, and they'll tell their readers so, or they won't get interviews, photo ops with Harry and his new wife.
I'm sure they don't want Harry to be marired to a woman who has a very volatile relative.. who needs to be staved off with lawsuits.
who are "they?" Kate had her infamous Uncle but married William anyway.
Prince Charles can hardly refuse Harry his request to marry Meghan, if Harry so chooses--Charles would come off as a hypocrite if he did. I doubt "they" will keep Harry from marrying Meghan.
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Quote from: Eri on April 26, 2017, 04:25:55 PM
^ Feel free to tell me what J.O.B has he taken on ... Harry has no real money and let's get real here that is why he is still to find a woman that bares with his antics long term ... Megan will run like the others did once they spend more than 7 Days together and she realizes he is even less relevant than Andrew as Andrew is actually son of a MONARCH ... let's get real here this woman won't sign up for a life of walking three steps behind Kate ...
Harry's job is being a senior royal. He was in the military like his brother was. Harry has "real money". He won't live in a cheap apartment with Meghan supporting them. He is wealthy. Harry will be the son of a monarch at the time Charles becomes king. In fact, Charles was not the son of a monarch until 1952. HE was born the son of the heiress presumptive.
well the more he is a "senior royal" surely the more important it is that he does not have a wife who seems to have more than one embarrassing relative. of course everyone has one, but the sort who write books or get in trouble wit the police, are a serious embarrassment to soemoene in Harry's positon.
Samantha hasn't written any books yet, it's doubtful if she even has a publisher. She just says she is going to do these things and they often don't come to pass. She just rants on and on on her Twitter page, and no-one not even the British tabloids are taking any notice any more.
As for Tom Markle Jnr. he had a quarrel with his girlfriend, it was fixed and he didn't end up in court and the charges were dropped. He's a man in middle age, hasn't done anything unlawful before or since, and has been quiet about his half sister since his arrest, which he was embarrassed about.
Kate had her uncle and a strip teasing cousin who did gigs in the US with a crown on her head. Embarrassing, yes, but it didn't reflect on Kate, and Samantha's rantings won't reflect on Meghan.
What's she going to write about? 'When Meghan was 14 (which was when I last saw her), she really liked pink lipstick...' Yeah, riveting stuff!
I'm sure she can make stuff up. Yes Kate has embarrassing relatives and she's a bad enough addition to the RF.. she's not active, she's dull and there's a streak of vulgarity.. at best she is just adequate..
since the RF is likely to be stripped down to the 2 boys, and their wives, I think that it matters a lot that if H marries, he gets a wife who is sutiable and good for the RF. I dotnt beleive Meghan will be but I'm done arguing.
^^ But it does reflect on Kate. How many times have we heard about her uncle, her stripper cousin and Casa Bang Bang in this thread alone? Every time someone talks about Kate and suitability to be in the RF, or Meghan and suitability to be in the RF, Uncle Gary, stripper cousin and Casa Bang Bang is brought up. If Meghan marries into the RF, her family, bitter Samantha, drunk Thomas jr, her parents bankruptcies... non of it is her fault and all of it will be held against her. This is one of the reasons sane people, who know what will happen, do not wish to marry a royal.
He just held a gun on his girlfriends head why can't people leave him alone? :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: Like seriously? I bet MA Midds is very pleased now Days ... Harry managed to get involved with a family that makes the Midds look classy ... I almost feel sorry about anything I have ever said about Pipps ... well almost ...
This thread and this forum and other Royal forums and blogs are for a niche in the Internet, though. The vast majority of people posting the Internet and the population of the UK and Commonwealth don't spend their days thinking about the royals or their relatives.
How many times in the past few years does Gary and Casa Bang Bang come up in conversations anyone on here has had with those who don't post on such sites? How many times have articles about him been in the tabloids in the past couple of years?
These relatives are novelties for a while when the Royal relationship is new and then they gradually recede so they're not talking points any more except occasionally on Royal forums and suchlike.
Quote from: Eri on April 27, 2017, 07:34:51 AM
He just held a gun on his girlfriends head why can't people leave him alone? :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: Like seriously? I bet MA Midds is very pleased now Days ... Harry managed to get involved with a family that makes the Midds look classy ... I almost feel sorry about anything I have ever said about Pipps ... well almost ...
Prince Philip had sisters who were married to Nazis. This is not mentioned much today. Philip got to marry the next monarch nevertheless.
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Quote from: amabel on April 27, 2017, 05:16:21 AM
I'm sure she can make stuff up. Yes Kate has embarrassing relatives and she's a bad enough addition to the RF.. she's not active, she's dull and there's a streak of vulgarity.. at best she is just adequate..
since the RF is likely to be stripped down to the 2 boys, and their wives, I think that it matters a lot that if H marries, he gets a wife who is sutiable and good for the RF. I dotnt beleive Meghan will be but I'm done arguing.
Charles hired an expensive spin doctor for his second wife. It took him 9 years after his divorce to marry her. There was a whole lot more fuss over her than there ever be with Meghan. Three of four of the children of the Queen are divorced. So they are not suitable either?
I think Meghan if anything will do better than Kate whose work ethic has been criticized and she was referred to as a WAG in the press for a time.
^ Megan has no work ethic to speak of as well ... her only "job" that has gotten any attention is THAT scene in the Beverly Hills reboot ... I see no difference between the two women other than the fact Kate can actually hold on to a man ... if Megan gets in Kate wins as she will be the "good Princess" as Megan makes her look good ... after the initial honeymoon with the press it would be brutal to the point Sarah would send Megan flowers ...
@ Eri How can you honestly say Meghan has no work ethic? Unlike Kate Meghan has been self supporting and working during her romance with Harry. Kate on the other hand has never worked a hard day in her life being supported by her parents during her dating years with William and having a short part time stint at Jigsaw. I have to wonder what it really is about Meghan that you so dislike?. Is it her racial makeup? the fact that she actually earns a living? or you wish you were her and dating Harry.
Quote from: Eri on April 27, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
^ Megan has no work ethic to speak of as well ... her only "job" that has gotten any attention is THAT scene in the Beverly Hills reboot ... I see no difference between the two women other than the fact Kate can actually hold on to a man ... if Megan gets in Kate wins as she will be the "good Princess" as Megan makes her look good ... after the initial honeymoon with the press it would be brutal to the point Sarah would send Megan flowers ...
She has a job and a career. Kate just waited for the ring for ten years. Doing very little. Kate had to "hold on to a man" for 10 years and put everything else on hold. Which is rather odd in this day and age. Did he "hold on to a woman" and do little, no he went on with his life and worked. Is there some sexism going on here in that analysis?
Again not Meghan's fault but...
Meghan Markle Niece Sparks New Royal Nazi Scandal (http://radaronline.com/photos/meghan-markle-niece-sparks-new-royal-nazi-satanic-scandal/)
^ Ah, yes, Radar, such a credible news source. One that produced fake nude photos of Meghan and has a new scandal every week to show why Meghan is a scandalous and unsuitable person. They've been at the reputation shredding since November and still have found nothing that Meghan has said or done that would make her a bad person.
@Curryong-In the meantime there are at least 2 consorts to reigning monarchs who had family members who were registered Nazi party members: Phillip-His German brothers-in-law and Sweden's Silvia-Her father. Princess Michael also had a father who was a Nazi.
Queen Maxima's father was a cabinet member of Argentina's junta government in the 1980's.
Most people recognize that these actions were done by others and not those who have actually married into the British, Swedish and Dutch royal families.
So in the end you could have a black sheep family member and still be a valued member of a royal family. Your relative's actions should not be a "dis-qualifier."
yes but Philips sisters and brothers in law were totally persona non grata, for many years.. and he was a royal....
^ A couple of Philip's sisters visited privately though with their families, amabel, and Philip visited them.
Yes, Maxie's father doesn't attend Royal events in the Netherlands and neither did Prss Michael's father in Britain. It's not as if any of Meghan's family, parents included who've said nothing, are going to be waving to the populace from the BP balcony. I've got a feeling that this info comes from Samantha M's rantings and dates from this girl's mid teen years when often people from unstable homes go a bit cuckoo.
Quote from: Eri on April 27, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
^ Megan has no work ethic to speak of as well ... her only "job" that has gotten any attention is THAT scene in the Beverly Hills reboot ... I see no difference between the two women other than the fact Kate can actually hold on to a man ... if Megan gets in Kate wins as she will be the "good Princess" as Megan makes her look good ... after the initial honeymoon with the press it would be brutal to the point Sarah would send Megan flowers ...
The reboot scene you mentioned is only popular with those that dislike MM, who trip over themselves over mere seconds, a blip of a silly scene. The job that got Meghan a lot of attention is Suits, a successful television show that is currently in its 7th year of production. Meghan is part of the 6 member main cast, and that is not something made up by people like me that like her. Here are the links to the Suits show website if you don't believe me.
Suits - Watch Full Episodes | USA Network (http://www.usanetwork.com/suits) and Cast & Info | Suits | USA Network (http://www.usanetwork.com/suits/cast)
Quote from: Trudie on April 27, 2017, 05:28:19 PM
@ Eri How can you honestly say Meghan has no work ethic? Unlike Kate Meghan has been self supporting and working during her romance with Harry. Kate on the other hand has never worked a hard day in her life being supported by her parents during her dating years with William and having a short part time stint at Jigsaw. I have to wonder what it really is about Meghan that you so dislike?. Is it her racial makeup? the fact that she actually earns a living? or you wish you were her and dating Harry.
Isn't it obvious how? It should be!! She makes crap up with nothing to back it up that's worth a damn that is! I don't why you all even bother??
The documents at the Radar link are dead funny, there's a nazi contract (what? lol!), a sad little letter to Satan and a pathetic attempt at writing a bombmaker's handbook. It's not even very damaging, but this nonsense sticks and unless she gets the UK papers onside, it will be rehashed and all most people will remember is "Meghan - nazi scandal" without the pathetic details of the "scandal". (IMO the pro Bremain photo she posted on Instagram in July is far more damaging to her chances of marrying Harry).
Re: her work ethic - If she really sat around in Nott Cott for four months with only a short fact finding mission to India and no other "work", then she's not the epitome of someone hard working, is she? But Kate, but Kate...? If Bartleby the scrivener Kate is the yardstick that people's laziness is measured against, then we're clearly not putting the bar high enough.
IMO, more mature people see the tabloids for what they are, rubbish and not exactly reference material for intellectuals. It's already been reported that The Daily Mail has been banned by Wikipedia as a reliable source.
Regarding work ethic, I see no problem with MM taking a break on her own terms. She is employed full time on a television show, that films for certain time periods, as they break up the work year quarterly. In between, M travelled, worked on her blog, maybe she did other things or did nothing. No different from some of my family members who are school teachers. Some take the entire 2 months off in the summer, others work summer school. None are lazy, IMO, they just use their time differently.
Prince Harry horses around at exclusive Ascot polo event | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4480130/Prince-Harry-horses-exclusive-Ascot-polo-event.html#ixzz4gJdTXGgh)
Harry and William are playing polo in the Audi Polo Challenge today but what has caught the media's attention is Meghan's presence at the match.
:nod:Thanks TLLK for posting that juicy link I hope the most vocal here that disapprove and have nothing nice to say about Meghan are sitting down when they see this.
Meghan looks fabulous! I love her dress. Nice to see her at Harry's polo match and glad to see that she is with Harry's closest friends.
Thanks for the link, TLLK. It's great that Harry's back has recovered and he can play polo again, terrific that Sentebale will get a cheque out of this and even more marvellous that Meghan, looking very good in a chic dress and blazer, was there to see Harry participate. No wonder that in one photo Harry and his horse were both beaming! I think we are on our way to an engagement here, folks!
I love her dress too!!Harry seemed so happy and Meghan looked so beautiful.
I think these two are already engaged people!
Meghan looks beautiful and super elegant. Commitment soon, sure! :hug: :hug: :hug: :wub: :wub: :wub:
Official KP news about today's Audi Polo Challenge
Kensington Palace (@KensingtonRoyal) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2017%2F05%2F06%2Feddie-redmayne-matt-smith-host-famous-faces-watch-prince-harry%2F)
The brothers have been participating in the event for ten years now to raise funds for their charities.
Yes, and I'm sure Harry thought about the cheques to WellChild and to Sentebale if his back gave a couple of twinges today! That's what it's all about isn't it, even if we do enjoy the fact that Meghan was watching the contest, and of course, being extremely impressed by the skill of one rider in particular! :lol:
I love the hug and kiss. :D
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry SO loved up as they kiss and hug after the Audi Polo Challenge - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-loved-10375268.amp)
Quote from: Lady Deb on May 07, 2017, 04:57:33 PM
I love the hug and kiss. :D
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry SO loved up as they kiss and hug after the Audi Polo Challenge - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-loved-10375268.amp)
It's on Twitter too.
peppersmint on Twitter: "? https://t.co/wAYVymk3Oa" (https://twitter.com/_peppersmint_/status/861263044105646080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout-meghan.freeforums.net%2Fthread%2F5%2Fmeghan-prince-harry%3Fpage%3D36)
Terrific! Always good to see some hugs and kisses in the Spring sunshine. It did wonders for Harry's performance on the polo field as well! I expect they had a romantic dinner later on, perhaps at Mark Dyer's pub. I expect to see Meghan as Harry's plus 1 at the wedding of the year in a couple of weeks and an engagement announcement soon.
I think they are a great couple.
Quote from: Curryong on May 07, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
Terrific! Always good to see some hugs and kisses in the Spring sunshine. It did wonders for Harry's performance on the polo field as well! I expect they had a romantic dinner later on, perhaps at Mark Dyer's pub. I expect to see Meghan as Harry's plus 1 at the wedding of the year in a couple of weeks and an engagement announcement soon.
I'm guessing that they're already engaged but that there won't be an engagement announcement until after the June activities: Garter Ceremony, Trooping the Color, Ascot etc...
Finally! After 6 months of this silliness, we have a photos of them together looking happy. Hopefully now that the cat is well and truly out of the bag, he'll stop treating their relationship like a dirty, little secret.
Ok.
May we all agree on some FACTS FACTS on something around here, LOL!!!
They are not ever together ...he is never seen with her...he took her to some faraway wedding.
He has publically said he is dating her and she has kind of said so. He took her front and center to a friends wedding with aristos/nobility/landed gentry there and cell phones, paps.
She has been photographed with him in London leaving some show/play/restaurant.
She was photographed there shopping.
It was reported they went vacationing...his stops in Toronto...her stays at KP.
It was reported that , makes sense, she met W and K.
NOWNOW, we see her OFFICIALLY, at a major sporting event.
Ok.
Is this enough FACTS FACTS for some of us that they are a couple?
Yes, she looked lovely. Good dress. jacket. Nice choice. Not reveling. Not thin. Not formal. Not too much leg. Longer back/shorter front=good choice. No neck,round neck in other words, no boobage.
:blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
Meghan Markle and boyfriend Prince Harry kiss in touching embrace before he takes to polo pitch with William (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3503019/meghan-markle-and-boyfriend-prince-harry-kiss-in-touching-embrace-before-he-takes-to-polo-pitch-with-william/)
Quote from: Eri on April 26, 2017, 07:25:33 AM
For God sake ... I don't get all the name calling her sister gets ... I didn't need her to see Megan is a pushy social climber there was no breaking news there ... I love how her gun trotting brother is totally OK for Megan's two fans but her sister who says some things they don't like is called all sorts of names ... oh to be a fly on the wall if my man Phil meets those people ... not that it will ever get that far ...
You're right about Meghan...
But the sister-in-law and the stepmother of Harry are too... so what? she's no better or worse than other women who married into this family... she's even media savvy like the others... she's very close to a PR guy who leaks favorable stories to US weekly... smart gal... she's way smarter than kate IMHO
BUT Her ambition will come bite her in back (exactly what's happening with kate)
Kate waited ten years for the ring and did not do anything much on her own except very sporadic part time jobs. Meghan has a career. But if she marries into the royal family she will have to give that up. She and Harry may want to start a family right away if they marry. IF she shows more willingness to work, it may make things more difficult for Kate who has done the minimum
QuoteMeghan Markle cheers on Prince Harry at polo - see the photos!
Meghan Markle was the talk of the polo on Saturday when she attended a high-profile match in Ascot to watch her boyfriend Prince Harry compete. The Suits actress looked stunning in an elegant black dress by designer Antonio Berardi, a white blazer and shades. Meghan could be seen applauding Harry from the royal box at the Audi Polo Challenge, held in support of WellChild and Sentebale. The exclusive event was attended by several celebrities, including Eddie Redmayne, Tom Hardy and Matt Smith. Reports say Prince William was also at the game.
Until now Meghan, 35, and Prince Harry have kept a low profile in the early days of their romance. But Meghan's presence at the polo this weekend appears to be a sign that the actress, who lives in Canada, is now ready to attend public engagements with Harry and their relationship is becoming more serious. The pair have been together for ten months and are believed to be attending the wedding reception of Pippa Middleton together this month. They make every effort to see each other regularly, with Harry, 32, flying out to Toronto recently to see his girlfriend. In the past month, Meghan has shut down her lifestyle blog The Tig and ended her role as ambassador to Canadian clothing company Reitmans – signs that she is preparing for a future with her Prince.
Read more:
Meghan Markle watches boyfriend Prince Harry at polo in Ascot (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2017050738717/Meghan-markle-attends-polo-ascot-with-prince-harry/)
According to the Express the question of Meghan's divorce and different faith (though I think she will almost certainly convert to the C of E) would nor prevent a wedding at Westminster Abbey. The Abbey authorities were apparently asked by the newspaper.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'CAN marry at Westminster Abbey' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/804138/prince-harry-meghan-markle-engagement-rumour-royal-wedding-Westminster-Abbey)
Guess who is in London for a wedding!!
Meghan Markle Arrives in London for Pippa Middleton's Wedding | E! News (http://www.eonline.com/news/853266/meghan-markle-arrives-in-london-for-pippa-middleton-s-wedding)
So Meghan has arrived early to see Harry and get herself ready for this momentous wedding! The tabloids will be going crazy this weekend. Five royals, a high profile bride, a girlfriend, AND news outlets screaming about portaloos, glass houses, plus imminent engagements.
By the way, good looks are very subjective things.
Harry had a fandom all the way through his twenties which William (who was regarded as hot for five minutes in his very early twenties before his hair started to drop out at 23) never did. Harry has a certain something, which has been discussed many times on Royal forums. He's not conventionally handsome though tall and with a good physique.
However, if you look back through the history of any of the Royal forums' archives there are comments from numerous females about Harry being full of life and personality which IMO transcends handsomeness and show that many girls were admiring of his looks.
The tumblrs and twitters that have burst into flames since Harry started dating Meghan have been illuminating, if only because if Harry wasn't popular then these females wouldn't care so much. They're invested in him. The hatred of Meghan in these sites wouldn't have been so intense if they didn't care, for a start!
Quote from: sandy on May 08, 2017, 10:46:47 PM
Kate waited ten years for the ring and did not do anything much on her own except very sporadic part time jobs. Meghan has a career. But if she marries into the royal family she will have to give that up. She and Harry may want to start a family right away if they marry. IF she shows more willingness to work, it may make things more difficult for Kate who has done the minimum
Agree with you. She'll have a awful time in Balmoral and Sandringham with her royal in-laws. Maybe even more awful than Diana and Kate experiences combined... not sure if harry will stand up for her as William does for Kate.
Kate's ambition is biting her in back. Same thing will happen with Meghan.
IF they marry Harry and Meghan will start their family within a year of the wedding. IMO anyway.
Sara, Sussex, United Kingdom, moments ago
Its highly amusing that social climber Pippa has spent so much money and gone to so much trouble to be the centre of attention and she is going to be completely upstaged by yet another social climber in the form of Harry's publicity hungry girlfriend. What classy company the royal family is keeping these days.
Read more: Meghan Markle gets ready for Pippa Middleton's wedding | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4522694/Meghan-Markle-preens-spa-London.html#ixzz4hYK8RZaX)
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They all deserve each other IMO
Ok , the facts FCT.
Pippa IS NOT going to be upstaged at her wedding. The only person to share and upstage her will be James Matthews, the groom. Pippa and James family and friends are not going to be looking, whispering , taking pictures with MM, someone they NOE even know. They only people at the wedding of Pippa and James who know MM are PW, PK, and PH.
MM is simply PH's date/plus one.
MM is not going to upstage Pippa no more than Cressinda the plus one of PH and Chelsy the bridesmaid upstaged Lady Percy at her wedding.
YES, the media is looking to get a pic of PH and MM leaving or entering the church or driving away.
Pippa has no more control of that than MM does.
Pippy the social climber ....yeahyeah, not really. She is a rich girl marrying a rich guy. Who should she marry? The butcher, baker, candlestick maker? LOL!!! Difference of opinion here with USA folks vs. UK folks. Pippa is marrying a man of her station in life. She has never dated a titled man. her folks worked hard, lucked out, found an opening in the market and are self-made multimillionaires. That moved their kids into another world from which their folks grew up in. Really, if they are social climbers, then Sophie, Dofwhatever is too. Sophie is the real Cinderella, Middle Class girl who as an older woman, early 30's met up by fate to PEdward and these two just were a good match an their history is theirs.
Pippa, future Lady something, so be it. She was going to MARRY RICH!!! And why should she not?
Yes, some career ventures of hers, ehhhhh, too much looking like a come up off her sister and brother-in-law, but then so what. Then again, it was just an extension off her family business. Also, she works for a living. PW ,QEII and PCharles do not pay for her, ok. People chose to buy or not.
MM is WITH PH. More facts facts. Can we now rest it until ...until an announcement that they spilt or are engaged.
IMO, I think she might be his one.
IMO, I think it will be really hard for her, as it is for all outsiders, from the press and people, but with PH supporting her and TPTB guiding her and her listening to them and MM not reading any praise -positive press nor negative, she can make it. Ten year mark for, then she can finally ...breathe a bit outside the palace walls.
I hope Pippa & James have a lovely day! If anyone is going to upstage them, I think it will be the adorable Cambridge children, and since they are Pippa's nephew and niece, she probably won't mind.
Other than pictures of George & Charlotte, I'm only interested in seeing pictures of Harry & Meghan, hopefully we'll get some clear pictures of them together. We've seen so few pictures of Harry & Meg together, and it seems they spend around every 2-3 weeks together whether in a London or Canada, they've just been so private and I do respect that.
None of her. I assume she was there. So his girlfriend is going t wait at home while he goes to this wedding? No. I assume he fixed it for her, Pippaw, etc., to have her leave late from the church, out a backdoor, under a canopy, etc. Walking between the racks of flowers to not be photographed, something. She is not a bad rash, but just too much press of Pippapoos and James day ....too bad that she cannot be just a normal girlfriend.
^ Sigh, so back to being a dirty little secret again? :(
I think she wasn't there. I think she wasn't invited to any of it. And that's why Harry left right after the ceremony.
Two or three media outlets have now stated that Meghan is at the evening party and that Harry drove back to London to pick her up and take her there. It's odd that Meghan couldn't have stayed at a nearby hotel (taking Harry's tux with her as well) instead of remaining an hour and a half away.
I think it's very odd behaviour to only invite someone to an evening party afterwards and not the main reception even. However, maybe Meghan can do that to Pippa when her time comes!
By the way there are rumours, via a Royal reporter or two, that there will be some photos of the reception released.
All I can say, we can is is hmmm. MM is n London and so is at some of J and P Matthews wedding. I assume, P and James Matthews , like brides and grooms, want all their guests and their plus ones to be at ease and have a enjoyable time. Too bad the media is just too much that MM could not have gone to the wedding ceremony. To me, if you miss the wedding ceremony, you miss it all. The ceremony/vows/wedding of the bride and groom is this part. The reception, we call it in the states, is just the after party.
Some people skip the vows/ceremony/wedding and go straight for the party/reception.
I think MM could have gone to the wedding ceremony and sneaked in and out ...even in a crate if need be!! LOL!!!
Rumors and nasty media reports abut Pippypoopua not wanting any pus ones was simply not true. PEug had her plus ne . James Midds has his forever faithful plus one, Donna.
Many others we do not know had their plus ones.
I'm more than a bit frustrated that Meghan wasn't invited to the actual service, which is the main part of a wedding for me. A party can happen any old time.
Still, maybe Pippa can be paid back in kind when it's Meghan's turn to shine on HER wedding day! A reception invite only for Pippa, and an invite for the wedding for James Matthews only!
I would have liked a couple of photos of Harry and Meghan together, I have to admit. So we go back to hide and seek and the press baying and them seeing each other occasionally but never going out to be photographed. I liked it so much better in the Chelsy days, plenty of photos, PDAs, lots of different occasions of the couple going out. Instead we get this cloak and dagger stuff occurring. It's ridiculous!
Quote from: Curryong on May 20, 2017, 11:44:23 PM
I'm more than a bit frustrated that Meghan wasn't invited to the actual service, which is the main part of a wedding for me. A party can happen any old time.
Still, maybe Pippa can be paid back in kind when it's Meghan's turn to shine on HER wedding day! A reception invite only for Pippa, and an invite for the wedding for James Matthews only!
I would have liked a couple of photos of Harry and Meghan together, I have to admit. So we go back to hide and seek and the press baying and them seeing each other occasionally but never going out to be photographed. I liked it so much better in the Chelsy days, plenty of photos, PDAs, lots of different occasions of the couple going out. Instead we get this cloak and dagger stuff occurring. It's ridiculous!
Meghan doesn't know Pippa or the other Middletons except for Kate and not even her well enough to get a personal invite. Come on now! She would have gone as Harry's plus one! Plus ones don't get an invite, they do as a guest of the who was invited and that would Harry here. Meghan probably did not go so that all the attention stays on the bride and her and Harry. And she's right because I only wanted to see her (Meghan) I don't care about Pippa Middleton.
Hate to be the party downer but in reality Pippa is just about as royal as I am. Sisters of royal wives are not and have never been royalty. Not even sure it can be classed as a society wedding since non of the principle parties are actually titled in any way. Perhaps a celebrity wedding is the best way to describe it. Even then Pippa is not exactly a Kardashian level celebrity. Her fame came as a result of wearing a rather figure-hugging dress at her royal sister's wedding. Maybe that counts as a big achievement these days.
Having said that, the bride looked nice and the flower girls/boys looked sweet too. I just wish the media was not turning this into the wedding of the century because it is not. Sorry.
@Tiddles88 How is she a "dirty secret"? Meghan doesn't know Pippa and Pippa vise versa,they've never met or spoken to one another so why should she have been invited?It wasn't Meghan and Harrys day but Pippa's and only the media/reporters were saying she was going to both because Harry was going,Meghan's side has said before she isnt going to church but only the reception.Anyways, I'm glad she didn't go,hopefully this OTT attention on the relationship would stop
^ Meghan is his girlfriend. His official girlfriend, as per the statement from KP. So why is he acting as if they are illicit lovers? Sneaking in through the back door of her house, creating distance on photos. Look at the difference in how he treats her when he knows they are being photographed v. how he treats her when he thinks they're all alone.
He wants his privacy with Meghan? In that case why the statement? He could have protected her in better ways. Ways that worked. Are Harry and his press advisers so painfully dumb that they didn't realise that confirming the relationship would raise the interest in them as a couple? It's like his late mother telling the press: "You'll get a big surprise with the next thing I do. Now leave me alone!". Well, that didn't work out so well for her; A few weeks late she was dead, chased to death by a flock of papps, hoping to get a scoop.
Moreover, Meghan clearly wants the relationship to be known, as is her right. (Before someone tells me that's not true: Go to her instagram and count how many times she published a photo of the "Harry bracelet" in the weeks before they were outed, then go further back to pre Harry and see how few times she published that type of picture before. In addition, many, many sources "close to the couple/ close to the suits star are clearly Meghan and her closest friends. Look at the last few days alone. Meghan arrives at Heathrow and is whisked away to KP, no photos and yet the story's published, so there's only one possible source: Meghan. Yesterday the headline said "Meghan WILL go to the wedding", it didn't look very likely, but it was true. Who was the source? I wonder.)
So, why not just go out in the sun with her? No need to publicly copulate with her or anything. I would happily have traded the photo of them kissing in the polo car park with a photo of them food shopping or enjoying a cup of coffee in a public park. I liked the beach photos from Jamaica, because while they were not what Lainey and others made them out to be (That was not frolicking in the water by any definition of the word), with a few exceptions, they seemed to show a normal couple on holiday together.
Full disclosure: I'm not a Harry-fan, he ticks all the boxes of my dislikes (casual racist - check, bloodsport fan - check, arrogant - check, self entitled - check, self pitying - check). When he started dating Meghan, I actually started liking him a little, he seemed to have finally grown up and got his act together. But, every time I think more kindly of him, he goes and treats her like a secret mistress again. This cloak and dagger stuff is just turning my stomach and it's not fair to Meghan. And then there's her...
In the beginning, I really liked Meghan, but the more I read about her, the more it seems like she's just phoney, whose press have built her up to be more than she is. Hard working? She's got at most a part time job, well paid, but allows her to spend months on end loafing around in London (in a house that I and my fellow tax payers pay for the maintenance of and have no access to). Does charity? Does she really? One two day trip to Rwanda, where she wrote an article and forgot to promote the charity, instead promoting the Tig; one trip with USO; one telethon, and one trip to India, where again she forgot to give proper details about the charity. And now, one of her colleagues has had to take over her charity work, because Meghan does not have the time for it any longer...
But the most grating thing of all is that for all Meghan's feminist female self empowerment talk, she drops all that she says matters to her because of a man. So little girls everywhere - take note. Build something up that is yours, defend your rights and those of your sisters, and maybe, just maybe, you get to abandon it all at the behest of some rich prince, who will want to kiss you secretly in a car park when he thinks no one is looking. And if you're a good girl he might even marry you, which is important because then you'll be a princess!
And with this rant I'm bowing out of this story. I've had enough of these two.
what is Harry doing wrong now exactly? Yes he' seems to be indicating that she is a serious romance, but he wants it to be reasoanAlby discreet and NOT splashed over the papers or pictured everywhere, till that has to happen, ie when they get engaged. If Megan has any sense she will want the same. I don't know much about her, but I am alos a bit sceptical that she's as wonderful as people seem to see her. yes she's ambitious and hard working but her career is one that she wil have to give up on marriage. Will she want to do that? Will she like the fact that in the future her publicity will be for her as a member of the RF not for her acting career? Is she dedicated ot her charity work? I don't know, it seems to me now that most actors and actresses seem to do a bit of charity work so it is hard to know how much they do or how sincere they are in being dedicated to it.
I think she would be willing to give up her career if she and Harry decide to get married. She will need to understand too that as the wife of a senior royal, she could be expected to do full time royal duties and not have outside work.
she would have to give it up and live the life of a senior royals wife. Lots of flak from the press and the internet. Restrictions on what she can do. No more freedom..
Meghan would know all about the restrictions of Royal life already. She and Harry would have already discussed them. She knows the score. It's not as if she's seventeen and just started dating Harry. Meghan has stayed at KP and seen the restrictions there. She's met Kate and seen the formality which surrounds Royal life.
Meghan has already stated, in previous interviews before she met Harry, that she had difficulties getting roles because of her biracial background before Suits. The fact is that roles for women over 40 dry up in the acting business, something I'm sure she's very aware of. She knows the realities of show business. As she's lived in Canada for years she's well aware of the Commonwealth, of the Royal family and even of money with the Queen's head on it. Meghan will be fine.
Canadian people not exactly hero worship royals or give much thought about them or the Queen being their head of state...
Lot of difference between seeing Harry at times and knowing about the RF and life in Britain from brief expxerinece nad talking to H. and actually being committed to live it.
^ No person married into the BRF actually knew/knows what it feels like until they are married and in it. Diana didn't know, Fergie didn't, Sophie didn't and Kate didn't. So they were just as inexperienced, just as ignorant of the life style as Meghan will be. She's probably a quick learner. Actors usually are.
Also, I know Canadians aren't ra-ra about the monarchy. Neither are Aussies. (Even so, both countries still retain the Queen as head of state.) All the same, living in a Commmonwealth country for any length of time does give a different perspective on things than living longterm in a republic like the US. (The Westminster system of government, for a start.)
Why people are so negative about this woman and think she won't commit, won't adapt, won't do this, won't do that, is beyond me.
I think the negativity is because of nationality, race and profession. I know that the PC position is not to talk about these things but the reality is that people just then opt to hide behind generalized objections. Ultimately it is Harry's choice. If he is denied the right to marry the woman he loves, you could end up with a repeat of the Charles, Diana, Camilla love triangle.
If push comes to shove I think Harry would marry Meghan in contravention of the Royal Marriage Act and take himself and heirs out of the succession. However, I don't believe that the Queen will refuse permission, and those that don't like Harry's choice will just have to suck it up, I guess.
She's a social climber AND publicity hungry as Camilla, Carole, Kate, Pippa as far as I'm corcerned. I dont put any of those 4 woman on a pedestal. I'm Not going to start with Meghan.
William seemed to want to marry an aristo and dropped Kate so he could pursue one. She turned him down. I think these women are the ones they are stuck with.
They all know as play their royal men. Meghan is no better or different. Meghan is as smart as Camilla and Carole.
All of us deserve to have privacy and have control over our own lives, Harry and Meghan included. I'm sure at some time all of us have gone to a wedding and enjoyed ourselves without having our faces plastered all over the press, just because Harry and Meghan are public figures doesn't mean that they shouldn't be able to enjoy themselves in private.
They attended Pippa's wedding together and hopefully had fun celebrating. When they choose to share some of their private time together with the general public is up to them. Harry has already stated on official palace letterhead that Meghan is his girlfriend, no secret about that. In the meantime they try to enjoy their privacy and there's nothing at all wrong with that, it's their lives. What is so difficult to understand?
If Meghan were to convert to the Anglican faith, would she be baptized and confirmed in the denomination?
Yes, of course. She would be baptised then confirmed in private ceremonies after taking instruction in the Anglican faith.
Kate was baptised in the C-of-E as a baby but not confirmed, so in the run-up to the wedding she brushed up on the tenets of the Anglican faith with a senior clergyman, and was then confirmed.
I remember being confirmed in my early teens after weeks of instruction (and years of Sunday School earlier) and wearing a white silk dress for the ceremony which consisted of rows and rows of little girls being brought up to the Bishop of Lincoln for a blessing in Lincoln Cathedral. Meghan's confirmation, like Kate's, will be much more private than that, however.
I'm not sure how adult confirmations work but as a child being confirmed (Catholic) in the church is a pretty big ceremony which parents attend.
It's very similar to this:
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I remember being confirmed in my early teens after weeks of instruction (and years of Sunday School earlier) and wearing a white silk dress for the ceremony which consisted of rows and rows of little girls
Anglican confirmations are different as every Christian denomination has their own traditional rites and rituals that are similar but vary slightly. Btw I think Meghan is lovely but he's not going to marry her. He didn't bring her out publicly like Chelsy or even Cress. Is he ashamed to be seen with her? It makes me wonder if he's not sure himself of the relationship.
^ I'm not quite sure whether you took any notice of the early dating years of William and Kate, Tiaras, but there were hardly any photos for years. A skiing holiday, the occasional casual walk, no PDAs.
After the more casual years of PDAs and Chelsy, who was pursued constantly by paps, Harry tried a more conservative approach with Cressida after the Verbier photos of them hugging on the ski slopes. I remember the fandom as it was in those days turning on Cressida, calling her names and at the same time hanging for photos! There aren't that many photos of Harry and Cressida either, at weddings or on dates.
Frustrating as I find it, Harry seems to have turned to his brother's dating approach since the Chelsy days and delights in keeping the Press guessing. I don't think it says anything about his feelings for Meghan but certainly a lot about how he feels about the media poking their nose into his private life. I still think they will marry but we aren't likely to get many glimpsing of them out on dates until the engagement announcement, IMO.
QuoteI don't think it says anything about his feelings for Meghan but certainly a lot about how he feels about the media poking their nose into his private life. I still think they will marry but we aren't likely to get many glimpsing of them out on dates until the engagement announcement, IMO.
I wholeheartedly agree
@Curryong. I doubt that Harry was happy about the paparazzi intrusion during the last wedding they attended so the couple found a way to cope with it during Pippa and James' wedding.
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Quote from: LouisFerdinand on May 23, 2017, 12:49:10 AM
If Meghan were to convert to the Anglican faith, would she be baptized and confirmed in the denomination?
@Curryong is correct because as I understand it Meghan is was not baptized into any Christian denomination. After taking religious instruction she could receive all of her sacraments in one ceremony.
Their year anniversary is coming up SOON!! Is it this month, June or July?
If she had previously received the sacrament of Baptism in a different religion, is it necessary that Meghan receive Baptism in the Anglican faith?
I'm not an expert on the theological requirements of the Church of England. :D However, it is my belief that most denominations of the Christian church do require baptism first before a confirmation ceremony can take place. Sometimes people don't know whether they were baptised and where. They then, after asking older family members, can look up the baptismal registry of the church concerned.
In the case of Meghan I have a strong suspicion that she wasn't baptised as a baby. Her parents had a mixed marriage as Tom Markle was or is Jewish. I don't believe Meghan's mother is Jewish, nor do I ever remember reading what religion if any she had when they married. I believe they married civilly as there's been no documentation that they married in a synagogue.
If Meghan wasn't baptised when she was young it's my understanding she could ask for it to be done at the beginning of her confirmation ceremony, after consultation with the clergy involved. That is, if she wishes to convert to the Church of England.
QuoteHowever, it is my belief that most denominations of the Christian church do require baptism first before a confirmation ceremony can take place. Sometimes people don't know whether they were baptised and where. They then, after asking older family members, can look up the baptismal registry of the church concerned.
Yes I agree
@Curryong that baptism would be required by any Christian denomination before confirmation. AFAIK most of the foreign royals and commoners who married into the family and were of a different Christian denomination were not required to be re-baptized though. However in Meghan's case this would be a necessary first step.
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on May 24, 2017, 12:23:54 AM
If she had previously received the sacrament of Baptism in a different religion, is it necessary that Meghan receive Baptism in the Anglican faith?
Baptism is only the rite of entry to one relgion, Christianity
Quote from: amabel on May 24, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on May 24, 2017, 12:23:54 AM
If she had previously received the sacrament of Baptism in a different religion, is it necessary that Meghan receive Baptism in the Anglican faith?
Baptism is only the rite of entry to one relgion, Christianity
Why is any of this important?? Meghan does not need to convert to marry Harry so why discuss it? Besides the topic is boring.
I disagree
@Yale. I do believe that if Harry and Meghan marry that she will choose to join the CoE and would require the necessary instruction to do so.
I agree TLLK. I think it would make things very difficult within the BRF and with the public, considering that Harry is high profile, for Meghan to be of another religion or denomination.
Her agent emailed a questioner in April with a denial that Meghan is Jewish. I don't believe she's Roman Catholic. I think Meghan's religious beliefs are fluid and she probably takes bits and pieces from each and maybe from Buddhism too as her philosophy in life.
Charles is interested in other religions and there wouldn't be any problem with Meghan maintaining an interest in Judaism after her marriage if that's how she feels (she attended a synagogue in LA with her dad as a very young woman.) It would just be very much easier for future children and attending church with the family etc, if she is accepted into the Church of England.
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on May 24, 2017, 12:23:54 AM
If she had previously received the sacrament of Baptism in a different religion, is it necessary that Meghan receive Baptism in the Anglican faith?
As a practicing Anglican I was baptized as a baby and my confirmation took place during the regular Sunday service with the Bishop of the NY Diocese officiating at the service my best friends mother who was baptized and confirmed Catholic was received into the church as a member. I hope this helps.
If she's never been baptised or received any formal religious training I think she will be pressed to consider becoming formally a Christian and a member of the Anglican communion.
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Quote from: Curryong on May 22, 2017, 06:42:27 AM
^ No person married into the BRF actually knew/knows what it feels like until they are married and in it. Diana didn't know, Fergie didn't, Sophie didn't and Kate didn't. So they were just as inexperienced, just as ignorant of the life style as Meghan will be. She's probably a quick learner. Actors usually are.
Why people are so negative about this woman and think she won't commit, won't adapt, won't do this, won't do that, is beyond me.
because as you've just pointed out Diana and Fergie were both upper class, of courtier background, and TEHY didnt' know much about the monarchy or adapt well to the lifestyle.. so someone from a very different culture, who is clearly ambitious and a career girl, may well have more difficulties. or may simply feel that the loss of her freedom is too big a price to pay for being iwht Harry or for the social status of being a Princess.
In Anglican Sacraments in Wikipedia.org, it was stated:
People baptized in other traditions will be confirmed without being baptized again unless there is doubt about the validity of their original baptism.
However, Sarah and Diana had other issues going on which we all now know about which eventually impacted on their lives as members of the BRF. Diana was a roaring success in her public life, it was the relationship with Charles and the deadliness of the formal Royal life as it was lived then at BP, Balmoral and Sandringham that she couldn't stand.
For Fergie, the country life lived in the rural Royal homes fitted her down to the ground, even if she found the several changes of clothing a day a pain. It was as a Royal Duchess carrying out her duties in a dignified and restrained way that she found difficult.
And, as I said, there were other issues going on, abandonment for both by their mothers in childhood, the lack of what they felt was any support from the family or TPTB about their troubles fitting into the lifestyle etc etc.
However, things have changed quite a bit since those days. Sophie was allowed to live with Edward, she was allowed to join in holidays, attended family weddings with him etc. Sophie has a happy marriage and attends her royal duties well IMO. Kate was allowed to live with William at Anglesey before marriage. She's been allowed to slip into Royal duties slowly, too slowly IMO, but that's another matter. She is now doing more. With the exception of being as wooden as hell she has been all right, except for several Marilyn moments.
I think we sometimes look at what Diana and Fergie faced in the early 1980's and think nothing has changed. However, the huge formality of private lives lived by senior royals, with the exception of Queen and consort and Prince Charles, has changed. Camilla doesn't live at her private home as she does at CH and Highgrove. Beatrice and Eugenie apparently do their own housework.
The Queen was reportedly very surprised when she visited Anmer to see how much of the Cambridges' life was played out in the kitchen of their home. Now, you can say that is taking 'normality' too far and you wouldn't get an argument from me. However, as far as the Royal family's private lives are concerned I don't think any American would be disturbed by it. In more formal settings I think Meghan knows which fork to use, and for an actress, changes of clothing would be a doddle. She would make an attempt to join in conversations around the dinner table, I'm sure.
As for Royal engagements, I can't see this woman jumping about at an engagement and saying loudly 'Oh, how CUTE! This is sooo OLD' if she visited an ancient building in the course of her travels around Britain! Like other members of the family she will be given briefings. She's used to reading and absorbing scripts. She can already make speeches and is used to meeting and greeting. Do you think Kate knows reams of British historical facts and can reel them off, or William or Harry for that matter? And when would they do so? It's enough to have an outline and then fill things in yourself according to your interests, like Sophie with military history.
Asking someone if they are well or about their background is no different basically if you're an actress greeting fans than a Royal on walkabout. Meghan has a lovely, cheerful and easy way about her when chatting to people. I've seen many clips of her with the public and haven't seen her lost for words once.
Of course there is a lot to absorb. There is with anyone who marries into the royal family. However, a lot of mistaken assumptions were made about their being able to cope when Diana and Sarah joined the family. The BRF and TPTB have learned since those days. Meghan will learn all about Britain and British ways during her engagement and she will be eased into Royal duties, as Sophie and Kate were, after marriage, not thrown headlong into it, as D and S were.
As an actress Meghan got voice and public speaking training. I think her speech is better than WIlliam, Harry and Kate. Actors and actresses study speech and voice. I think Meghan will excel at speaking if she joins the royal family.
QuoteMeghan will learn all about Britain and British ways during her engagement and she will be eased into Royal duties, as Sophie and Kate were, after marriage, not thrown headlong into it, as D and S were.
:goodpost: It does appear that the BRF and TPTB have learned their lessons regarding the newly married members into the BRF. Also I like that you pointed out
@Curryong that Meghan should be given the opportunity to adapt to a new country as well as a new way of life. Mary, Maxima, Stephanie, Marie etc... were given the necessary time and space to adapt to their adopted nations as well. (Fortunately for Meghan she's had a head start on the language.) :wink:
Kate did not need all that "easing." She had ten years to date William and she was much lauded for her University Degree. Sophie did not get as coddled. DIana's problem was on the domestic front. Sarah had her own issues. I don't think the royals learned a thing if they thought "work" was the root cause of the issues of Charles and DIana. Meghan if she marries Harry may be starting a family sooner rather than later because theoretically she would be 36 if she marries Harry. Her perspective if she becomes pregnant after the marriage (right away) will be somewhat different. Kate and William waited two years to have their first baby. Sophie had childbearing issues but eventually had two children.
^ Yes, indeed, TLLK. I've always thought, probably wrongly, that the Scandinavian languages must be extremely hard to master, the Romance languages perhaps not so much. Therefore I've always had an extra bit of sympathy for Crown Princess Mary in that direction, (as well as going through the Scandi winters!) I remember ages ago meeting a Danish couple who, though they liked Mary, felt she still had trouble with the Danish accent. However, Denmark and Australia. Could two countries be more different? Did Mary know very much at all about Denmark and Danes when she arrived there? Doubt it! And yet Mary has thrived, borne children, carried out Royal duties, and is popular!
Charlene of Monaco seems to struggle with French and consequently with some of her Royal duties. Her husband at least is quite used to English and that's their language of choice in private, I'm sure. Perhaps it shouldn't be. Often just plunging into something because you simply have to is the way to go.
I just think that so many of the difficulties that Meghan faces have been overstated. There are Americans (just as there are in all other nationalities) who aren't interested in other nations' culture and way of life. There are other Americans, and I've met several in my lifetime, who are deeply interested. Specifically, Americans who are Anglophiles (and Meghan would be among them as she's dating an Englishman) are usually eager to learn all they can.
As for giving up certain freedoms, Sarah felt it in particular and often travelled to get away, in spite of the fact that she had been used to being around Royal circles (somewhat) before marriage. Meghan isn't used to Royal circles nor the British way of life. However, neither is she Fergie, and there is no reason to think that she will react in the same way.
QuoteYes, indeed, TLLK. I've always thought, probably wrongly, that the Scandinavian languages must be extremely hard to master, the Romance languages perhaps not so much. Therefore I've always had an extra bit of sympathy for Crown Princess Mary in that direction, (as well as going through the Scandi winters!) I remember ages ago meeting a Danish couple who, though they liked Mary, felt she still had trouble with the Danish accent.
I concur
@Curryong. Mary had a difficult task ahead of her when she started to learn Danish as an adult. After puberty when the vocal folds are not as elastic, it is difficult to fully master a new accent. I'm sure that is why multi-lingual Prince Henrik could never sound like a Danish native. Similar comments have been made about Mathilde's and Maxima's Flemish/Dutch pronunciations too.
Pippa's wedding was beautiful and no, imo Meghan didn't deserve to be there. Only 120 people could fit into the church and over 300 were at the evening party. That makes over 100 people who didn't get to be in the church. Let's stop acting like Meghan deserves special treatment. I also just saw a segment on Wendy Williams where Meghan wanted to go on her show right before the relationship story broke. This woman is a grade A opportunist and I hope TPTB get rid of her soon because Harry isn't thinking with the right head.
Get rid of her?! They let Camilla in who is IMO the biggest opportunist of all. If Harry and Meghan decide to marry, they will get permission. Kate also was an opportunist, putting her life on hold for ten years to get the ring.
^Do you seriously think that Meghan wouldn't hold for ten years? :lol: She is so desperate it's obvious for everyone but Harry to see it. She is an opportunist because sh tried to get famous off the back of Harry. Kate and Camilla have always been discrete. As much as I think Camilla shouldn't be queen simply for breaking up the marriage of her predecessor, but she has loyalty to Charles and will always back him. Meghan is in this for self and has been since day 1. As soon as she realizes this isn't the Disney fantasy she hoped it would be, she'll bolt. This relationship won't go past this year simply because they don't have the personalities for longevity of relationships. Besides her marriage failed which increases the likelihood of her second and all subsequent marriages failing. :thumbsdown: Good to know that even her fans notice how much of an opportunist this woman is.
Looking forward to Harry and Meghan's engagement, are we? Coming soon!
Quote from: HsHCharlene on May 27, 2017, 03:58:41 PM
^Do you seriously think that Meghan wouldn't hold for ten years? :lol: She is so desperate it's obvious for everyone but Harry to see it. She is an opportunist because sh tried to get famous off the back of Harry. Kate and Camilla have always been discrete. As much as I think Camilla shouldn't be queen simply for breaking up the marriage of her predecessor, but she has loyalty to Charles and will always back him. Meghan is in this for self and has been since day 1. As soon as she realizes this isn't the Disney fantasy she hoped it would be, she'll bolt. This relationship won't go past this year simply because they don't have the personalities for longevity of relationships. Besides her marriage failed which increases the likelihood of her second and all subsequent marriages failing. :thumbsdown: Good to know that even her fans notice how much of an opportunist this woman is.
The only thing is MEghan has a full time job. Kate had sporadic part time jobs since she graduated. Apparently Meghan is not going to quit her job until or if an engagement happens.
WHy wouldn't Camilla back Charles? She worked to get where she is today for years. Camilla was an opportunist because as Prince of Wales' mistress she had power and influence she also was an opportunist when she tried to "befriend" Lady Diana and undermined Diana every step of the way. Diana was willing to "back Charles" but Camilla wanted to be the one to "back him" and she succeeded. How is it not known that Meghan would not "back Harry?"
Meghan is in no way desperate like Kate was .Meghan has a steady job and continues to live her life while dating a prince.I can't wait for the announcement she will make a wonderful modern duchess.
Quote from: Valentina18 on May 27, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
Meghan is in no way desperate like Kate was .Meghan has a steady job and continues to live her life while dating a prince.I can't wait for the announcement she will make a wonderful modern duchess.
I hope you are wrong regarding an announcement. However, whether they marry or not, Meghan is a winner in the publicity area of her life. I like Prince Harry but I feel that Meghan is more worldly and experienced in many ways that The Prince is not! His heart rules; her head rules, IMO.
Quote from: Curryong on May 27, 2017, 04:05:16 PM
Looking forward to Harry and Meghan's engagement, are we? Coming soon!
No, not at all. really can't see ither Meghan or Kate as wonderful royal duchesses..
Quote from: Eri on March 20, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
^ The only place she will get to be Duchess of is Toronto ... like seriously ... this time last Year she was living with another mam with whom she has a civil union ... if Harry didn't marry Cressida who was perfect on paper he won't marry this very problematic woman not even her sister can stand ... the men in grey made Chelsy go away and Megan will have the same fate ...
Has there ever been any interviews of the man she was living with, before P. Harry came on the scene? And what about her Ex? Has he ever b een approached to give an interview, anywhere..?
There have been stories that when the British tabloids were in hysteria mode, when the story just broke and after the November KP statement Meghan's ex husband and ex boyfriend Cory were indeed approached with offers of large sums to tell-all to them. The two Tumblr queens who have hated Meghan from the beginning were joyfully predicting at that time that one or the other of these men was going to spill the beans about her momentarily. Didn't happen! They're still waiting!
Meghan is 35 years old. To hear people talk about her you would think she'd had hundreds of men and cheated on the lot of them. In fact, as happens sometimes she had lived with her future husband for several years before marriage and the union when it happened was brief and failed. Meghan did not ask for maintenance.
The chef Cory supposedly cooked for the Trudeaus, with whom Meghan is friendly and it was at their house, according to this concocted and made-up story, that Meghan passed a note to Harry with her phone number on it. In fact, I read the Toronto Sun quite a bit and there was a blind item in it that said that a prominent chef was saying at the beginning of June that he and his girlfriend had split up weeks before. This split was apparently quite amicable as Meghan continued to rent Cory's house.
Meghan didn't go to England until June, by which time she and Cory had finished their relationship, and a civil union is not like a marriage. I lived with my husband before marriage for a year and we certainly didn't regard each other as husband and wife.
There's a whole heap of slanderous rubbish with no proof at all that has been written about this woman and her past, and these two poisonous Tumblr witches have been right there stoking it up. Anyone can say anything they like about others on the Internet and there is little or no policing in some of these Tumblr and Twitter sites. It's like the Wild West!
Quote from: HsHCharlene on May 27, 2017, 01:46:27 PM
Pippa's wedding was beautiful and no, imo Meghan didn't deserve to be there. Only 120 people could fit into the church and over 300 were at the evening party. That makes over 100 people who didn't get to be in the church. Let's stop acting like Meghan deserves special treatment. I also just saw a segment on Wendy Williams where Meghan wanted to go on her show right before the relationship story broke. This woman is a grade A opportunist and I hope TPTB get rid of her soon because Harry isn't thinking with the right head.
Promoting is what actors and actresses do. Meghan is no different from those in her field of work who promote their TV shows, movies, charity work, blogs etc. That's why so many talk and entertainment shows have actors and actresses on their shows, it is mutual promotion. IMO, it is Wonderful that Harry has so far shown that he is above simple-minded people and can appreciate a good person like Meghan for all of the qualities that she has, and she has been able to do the same towards him, despite all of the mean-spiritedness from other people.
Where to start?
We none know MM or PH so all we can d is what the meida is doing is sit back and wait, watch.
Oe day, PH will get married.
Will it be MM?
MM and PH know.
Rumor was that Cheksy was the one. Rumor wa sCressida was the one.
I'll bet. Whoever PH is with WILL be the one because one of them, LOL, will be The One.
Commons sense there.
Ok, MM waiting for 10 years No. She cannot. She will be 45 by then. PH, 44 or so. MM works a job she has to be there for and is contractual committed too and cannot go and leave and does as she wishes.
K waited for 10 years and worked for her family and her family's friend so that she could leave for PW whenever he beckoned. :-)
PH has a woman here , a real woman in every sense of the word. Career. Been on world stage before as in meeting, TPBT like PM Trudeau. Photographers. In some real magazines. Has her charitable causes she supports. Graduated from college.Yes, she has been married before. Yes, she lived with a boyfriend. Well, she is 35 and not 18, 19.
Kate had boyfriends before PW and Kate and Pippa lived with their husbands first .
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MM would do well as a Duchess, Senior BR.She has a lot going for her.
PH's support and listening to the TPTB would most impt and never reading any of her press for 10 years , LOL!!
MM would face a challenge in that the role is not Disney Princess at Disneyland. Kate saw BRF in the papers and tv while growing up in England and saw the role closeup somewhat for 10 years. she and her mother a d sister, esp her mother were shredded by the media too. Carole and Pippa still are to a point.
The media is eating MM alive already , from day one. It is going to be far worst for MM.
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Quote from: HsHCharlene on May 27, 2017, 01:46:27 PM
Pippa's wedding was beautiful and no, imo Meghan didn't deserve to be there. Only 120 people could fit into the church and over 300 were at the evening party. That makes over 100 people who didn't get to be in the church.
Promoting is what actors and actresses do. Meghan is no different from those in her field of work who promote their TV shows, movies, charity work, blogs etc. That's why so many talk and entertainment shows have actors and actresses on their shows, it is mutual promotion. IMO, it is Wonderful that Harry has so far shown that
so what are these great qualities? She's an actress in a TV show, not exactly Mrs Siddons. She works reasonably hard. SHe's got a blog, I gather, and does some charity work, so do a lot of celebs including Madonna. She is from America, from a very different culture to the RF, and who knows whether she will wish to adapt, or be able to? Harry likes her but he has had other girlfirends who have both seemed fairly bland.. and the relationships haven't worked out.
Ot: Pippa's arms looked like they were ready to hulk out of the mini sleeves. Meghan had a head start on the language? :hmm: Is she going to pick up an accent too like Gwyneth and Madonna? :lol: *grabs popcorn*
I don't think that Gwyneth and Madonna are much liked in the UK anyway. Ok she's an English speaker, and many Englsih like Americans. OTOH a lot of English are very snobbish about Americans.
Madonna and Gwyneth are not as popular here in the US.
Who is British on here? I want someone how knows about citizenship laws who knows what they are talking about. I will send you a PM with my questions.
I'm sure the whole citizenship process will be sped up if she marries into the BRF. The process is entirely different if you marry a british person of course.
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Become a British citizen: If your spouse is a British citizen - GOV.UK (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/if-your-spouse-is-a-british-citizen)
If you're married to, or the civil partner of, a British citizen, you can apply for citizenship if:
you're 18 or over
you're of sound mind, you're able to think and make decisions for yourself
you're of good character, for example you don't have a serious or recent criminal record
you've met the knowledge of English and life in the UK requirements
you've been granted indefinite leave to stay in the UK (this means there's no specific date that you have to leave) or permanent residence if you're an EEA national (and you have a permanent residence card or document that shows you have permanent residence)
you meet the residency requirement
Unless your spouse or civil partner works abroad either for the UK government or for an organisation closely linked to government, you must usually also have:
lived in the UK for at least the 3 years before your application is received
spent no more than 270 days outside the UK in those 3 years
spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months
not broken any immigration laws while in the UK
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I'm sure the whole citizenship process will be sped up if she marries into the BRF. The process is entirely different if you marry a british person of course.
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Become a British citizen: If your spouse is a British citizen - GOV.UK (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/if-your-spouse-is-a-british-citizen)
If you're married to, or the civil partner of, a British citizen, you can apply for citizenship if:
you're 18 or over
you're of sound mind, you're able to think and make decisions for yourself
you're of good character, for example you don't have a serious or recent criminal record
you've met the knowledge of English and life in the UK requirements
you've been granted indefinite leave to stay in the UK (this means there's no specific date that you have to leave) or permanent residence if you're an EEA national (and you have a permanent residence card or document that shows you have permanent residence)
you meet the residency requirement
Unless your spouse or civil partner works abroad either for the UK government or for an organisation closely linked to government, you must usually also have:
lived in the UK for at least the 3 years before your application is received
spent no more than 270 days outside the UK in those 3 years
spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months
not broken any immigration laws while in the UK
I wasn't concerned about her becoming a citizen of Britain. The British embassy said that Meghan would be allowed to keep her US Citizenship.
Yeah i think she might go for dual citizenship,that's a possibility too.
Well, she is on her way to England 6/23. See TDM. Someone cut and paste it.
According to the DM Meghan was at Toronto international boarding a plane bound for London about ten hours ago. Funny thing is, nobody saw her land on the other end! I'm wondering whether they're meeting up elsewhere somewhere before London, or she was hustled through VIP at London airport and the paps didn't catch her. Harry's due back on the 29th for a BP gig with the Queen and other members of the family for Commonwealth leaders awards, he usually returns from overseas for these engagements the night before.
Meghan Markle arrives at Toronto airport for London flight | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4644506/Meghan-Markle-arrives-Toronto-airport-London-flight.html)
Do you believe Harry's engagement to Meghan will be announced before Queen Elizabeth II goes to Balmoral?
No, afterwards. According to a reliable poster on another forum who has relatives who live/work in BP Harry's already been to see granny and has received permission. He guesses the announcement will be around the beginning of September, but who knows. I do think it's more likely to be late this year than next.
Quote from: HsHCharlene on May 27, 2017, 03:58:41 PM
^Do you seriously think that Meghan wouldn't hold for ten years? :lol: She is so desperate it's obvious for everyone but Harry to see it. She is an opportunist because sh tried to get famous off the back of Harry. Kate and Camilla have always been discrete. As much as I think Camilla shouldn't be queen simply for breaking up the marriage of her predecessor, but she has loyalty to Charles and will always back him. Meghan is in this for self and has been since day 1. As soon as she realizes this isn't the Disney fantasy she hoped it would be, she'll bolt. This relationship won't go past this year simply because they don't have the personalities for longevity of relationships. Besides her marriage failed which increases the likelihood of her second and all subsequent marriages failing. :thumbsdown: Good to know that even her fans notice how much of an opportunist this woman is.
She cannot hold on for 10 years because she does not have the time being that she is 35. K and W were 21 or so.
She did not get famous off of being with PH these , this past year.
She is a college university graduate. An actress on a show she had before meeting PH and NO, it is not porn, whatever. Geesch, some of us make her seem like she makes Vivid movies.
Camilla was never PRIVAELTY discrete. All of those inside the nobility knew about Camila from day 1.
Kate had no reason to be discrete because she was a young, singe woman involved with a young single man.
MM has not spoken to the media about her private life with PH.
MM and Disney princess? I do not know for the public knows nothing about her as far her thoughts, speech in real life, etc. I have said I hoe IF he marries her, she can adapt , really understand YES her life will have riches and privileges beyond this world, but the price will be costly and she can have accept that if she can. No, her kids cannot go to Compton to visit their grandmama. YES, she will have to take on some BRF work. No, her American private life as she knows will not be. Her kids names, schools, her hoes are all picked out for her to choose from. Time will tell...if IF PH marries her. IF she can handle that life. If she prepares for way before time.
I predict MM will have PH's back if they marry. He , like PW, seems to have only been involved with women who are private abut them and "have their backs."
@Curryong, Can one presume that the engagement of Henry Charles to Meghan is a definite?
^ Of course not. Nothing is ever definite, especially in matters of the heart. But, they are still together after a year or more, they are mature adults and Harry presumably wants a child/children before he's forty! If he splits with Meghan that would mean another period of looking for someone who could cope with Royal life, public attention and who he could fall in love with and they with him. Then two years or so of courtship before marriage.
He's been proactive in Meghan's defence, (the November KP statement) and they've taken a great deal of trouble to see each other whenever they can. Most observers believe they're in love and expect an engagement this year and a wedding next year. As we don't know either of them I think that's as much as we can ask for.
@Curryong Meghan never rented Cory's house because she has her own.I also dont think they met in Toronto
@HsHCharlene how is Meghan desperate? How has she tried to use Harry. Shes shut down her blog,doesn't promote her show and you rarely ever see her anymore yet she's using him? Seriously.... I'm pretty sure with all that has happened, that 'disney' fantasy stopped a long time ago.
Quote from: HsHCharlene on May 27, 2017, 03:58:41 PM
^Do you seriously think that Meghan wouldn't hold for ten years? :lol: She is so desperate it's obvious for everyone but Harry to see it. She is an opportunist because sh tried to get famous off the back of Harry. Kate and Camilla have always been discrete. As much as I think Camilla shouldn't be queen simply for breaking up the marriage of her predecessor, but she has loyalty to Charles and will always back him. Meghan is in this for self and has been since day 1. As soon as she realizes this isn't the Disney fantasy she hoped it would be, she'll bolt. This relationship won't go past this year simply because they don't have the personalities for longevity of relationships. Besides her marriage failed which increases the likelihood of her second and all subsequent marriages failing. :thumbsdown: Good to know that even her fans notice how much of an opportunist this woman is.
Harry and Meghan have been together a year now. Is that all you got?
^ They were seen together at Paddington Station in London last night. Could be going anywhere, even Heathrow, from there. I hope she is staying longer in London and we see them at Wimbledon but the Canadian national holiday celebrations are ended and Meghan could well be heading back to work.
Did Harry buy Meghan this painting? It was 'for someone special'.
Did Harry buy this painting to seal the deal with Meghan? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4678240/amp/Did-Harry-buy-painting-seal-deal-Meghan.html)
Quote from: California_dream on July 02, 2017, 07:41:07 AM
@Curryong Meghan never rented Cory's house because she has her own.I also dont think they met in Toronto
@HsHCharlene how is Meghan desperate? How has she tried to use Harry. Shes shut down her blog,doesn't promote her show and you rarely ever see her anymore yet she's using him? Seriously.... I'm pretty sure with all that has happened, that 'disney' fantasy stopped a long time ago.
I'm sure if the relationship doesn't end in marriage, her having had a thing with a Prince isns't going to harm her movie career...
Quotehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4679250/amp/Prince-Harry-BST-Hyde-Park.html
Return of the party prince! Harry drinks beer and snaps selfies as he enjoys The Killers in Hyde Park without girlfriend Meghan Markle
I don't think he's cheating on her. The young woman of the selfies is dating someone else.
Quote from: Minerva on July 09, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
Quotehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4679250/amp/Prince-Harry-BST-Hyde-Park.html
Return of the party prince! Harry drinks beer and snaps selfies as he enjoys The Killers in Hyde Park without girlfriend Meghan Markle
Ah that would be a fun show to see as an outdoor concert!
All seems quiet with them. Broken up?
Together keeping everything very private and quiet?
Was she there at his house atKP when he went to the State Banquet
Just speculation, so far...
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Are ''Fast Approaching'' an Engagement | E! News (http://www.eonline.com/news/868286/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-are-fast-approaching-an-engagement)
Prince Harry reportedly suggested that he and Meghan Markle elope - AOL Lifestyle (https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2017/07/20/prince-harry-meghan-markle-elope-report/23039946/)
Us Magazine claims there will be an August engagement.
Having a tangential interest because of the Diana connection, I dont follow this daily, im curious if the others have an idea on whats left before they announce an engagement?
Do you think theres any vetting/getting to know each other etc. issues, or do you think its a timing issue(ie making the announcement to coincide with their desired wedding date for either logistical or their work schedules)?
I do think that there will be an announcement later this year. That friend I've spoken of before who has family working at BP is still convinced it will be September. However, if it is it will have to be some time before the IG in Toronto as I can't see Harry allowing his private life to overshadow the Invictus Games, his baby.
Nothing much is happening in August except Meghan's birthday, and they are sure to be together for that, so maybe late August, or even October for an announcement if my forum friend is wrong. I can't see it being a November call as the Queen and Duke's 70th wedding anniversary is then, and that's a biggie.
thanks
@Curryong so im guessing your thinking the delay is just due to them finding the right spot in everyones schedule?
To a certain extent I think engagement announcements and the scheduling of weddings is always a priority when anyone in the Royal family wants to commit, bizarre as this sort of planning often appears. It's more complicated in Harry and Meghan's case because they live and work across the Atlantic from each other and can't see each other that often.
With Kate and William there was always the knowledge that, after they reunited in 2007, they would eventually settle down together, it was just a question of time. With them it just stretched out for eight years because of their youth when they met.
It's not helped in Harry's case because, since the years when he and Chelsy were together his relationship with the media has soured. William was always cautious and there were very few photos taken of he and Kate together in the majority of those years. That made their fans incredibly frustrated, but the paps were always around Kate.
With Harry and Meghan, a couple in their thirties with their own schedule and their own work, it's become incredibly difficult to get any sort of true soundings on their relationship. Most of Harry's friends are married and settled down and no longer clubbing, Harry's no longer doing that, so there's no gossip from people close to Harry, in the club scene or from the polo, or anywhere really. It's silent and then one or the other of them just bobs up in each other's city.
However, the concensus is from Royal watchers and Royal correspondents etc that Harry's ready to settle down, wants a family etc and so, as Meghan will be 36 in August, there's likely to be a wedding sooner rather than later, even though they have only been dating 14 months or so now. Therefore an engagement is expected over the next few months and it's just a question of schedules from all concerned.
Prince Albert of Monaco Gives Prince Harry Relationship Advice (http://people.com/royals/prince-alberts-relationship-advice-for-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-keep-calm-and-carry-on/)
Meghan has apparently flown into London with her mother ahead of her 36th birthday next week.
Meghan Markle is in London ahead of 36th birthday (http://us.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2017072841015/Meghan-Markle-in-London-ahead-36th-birthday/)
I wanted to post all has been quiet with MM and PH so maybe they are not really together anymore.
THEN , the article about her mother going to London for MM's birthday...that sounds suspicious.
:crazylove:
Why would her mother need to be in London ? Her daughter, an adult, has a birthday but chose to celebrate the day with her boyfriend. That happens to adults all the time and they celebrate with their family , parents before or after.
Ohoh!!!!
Could it be?
Time will tell.
It could be soon
It does look like she could be there for the announcement. Or if not, just wants to see England. I just got back from a cousin's wedding in Northumberland and loved being there again. If it is an announcement, where is the dad? I knew she was estranged from her siblings, at least one, but I didn't think she was estranged from her father. Maybe he'll come later. Maybe not a good thing to have her family at her wedding.
I think her parents will need to be there at the wedding. I think they will go if there is a wedding.
newbie here, hello everyone :hi:
just want to point out that that article about megs and her mom going to london was posted late july. not long after that article was published e news published an article saying harry had flown out to toronto to celebrate her birthday with her and her friends. the article also claimed that after that they flew out to africa to work on sentebale and e news could confirm they were also at harry's favorite rhino watching spots. anyway, that article was quickly pulled down. a few days later it surfaced that harry has been in sicily this entire time and he recently got back to the UK yesterday. so who knows what they'll do for her bday, if they do anything :shrug:
Hi cilla, and welcome,
Meghan is probably in Toronto. They are still filming the last episode of Suits before they take the short break in August that they do each year. The episode before that wrapped on the 24th July. There has been photo after photo each year of Meghan celebrating her birthday with her cast mates. Her birthday falls about a week before the break. Harry has been in Sicily at Google camp, arrived back in Britain as you say, yesterday. Better than hanging around waiting for Meghan to finish long hours of filming.
That of course might not prevent Meghan from going to Britain this weekend. However, IMO, it's more likely that she and Harry will reunite when she has her longer break.
Happy to see that PH and MM are are Africa together celebrating her birthday. Front cover picture in tomorrow's Sun
Harry and Meghan in Africa together. I'm so happy to see this and they look great together. Hope she had a lovely birthday as well.
Prince Harry puts a tender arm around Meghan Markle and gives thumbs-up as they head off on African safari to celebrate her 36th birthday (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4174187/prince-harry-puts-arm-around-meghan-markle-while-travelling-to-destination-popular-for-proposals/)
Meghan and Harry look so happy on the cover.They make such a cute couple.
Prince Harry and Megan, enjoy this time together, your only young once :flower: May God bless you both.:flower:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Head to Africa — Where William Proposed to Kate
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Birthday Vacation (http://people.com/royals/prince-harry-meghan-markle-birthday-vacation-africa/)
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle celebrate her 36th birthday with African safari!
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle holiday in Africa on her 36th birthday (http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2017080541281/prince-harry-meghan-markle-african-safari-36-birthday/)
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'Ethnically ambiguous' Meghan Markle reveals the racist abuse she suffers - as she enjoys a romantic getaway with Harry in Botswana
Meghan Markle speaks about being 'racially ambiguous' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4765754/Meghan-Markle-speaks-racially-ambiguous.html)
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'Africa became a place of calm' Prince Harry takes Meghan to Botswana for special occasion
Prince Harry takes Meghan Markle to Botswana for a 'special occasion' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/837456/meghan-markle-prince-harry-africa-botswana-proposal)
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle holiday: Odds slashed on royal engagement
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle: Odds on engagement during holiday | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/837452/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-latest-holiday-Botswana-engagement)
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are on holiday in Africa
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are on holiday in Africa | NEWMYROYALS & HOLLYWOOD FASHION (http://www.newmyroyals.com/2017/08/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-are-on.html)
There are apparently a whole load of press photographers headed for Botswana, where they believe Harry and Meghan are headed. I remember Harry and Chelsy having a river holiday there in a houseboat where they were pursued every inch of the way by press, on land and on the river. We don't know whether Harry and Meghan are in Botswana or where they are, but I hope they evade the media.
Look at the face of tenderness that Harry looks at her in the photos :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :hug: :hug:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/nintchdbpict000343606758.jpg?strip=all&w=888&quality=100
Yes, that is luuuurve all right and beautiful to see! :crazylove: Of course the Tumblr witches are saying it's all photoshopped. I knew that would be the reaction. I'm longing for the engagement announcement, at least partly because the stupidity will then cease.
I am curious who is saying it is photo shopped. Of they are happy. They are on the beginning of a vacation. This is the happiest I've seen Harry look with her.
Of course they're happy at being together. It's just nutters on Tumblr who refuse to believe that this romance is for real.
I'm still chilling that champagne. :partaay: :lol:
Some people on the Daily Mail message boards talk about photoshopping. They are in denial
^^^The DM comment section is filled with some truly bizarre statements at times. :wacko:
I'm not sure confirmation bias and ableism is the best way to hammer home the point that Rachel and Harry are well suited.
Personally think that a referendum on the future of the monarchy after HMQEII is the way forwards. In this way any member of Britain's most famous family can marry whosoever they wish without worry to the taxpayer.
I think Charles will succeed, and since it is William who is next In line, I think the monarchy will certainly last inot his lifetime but I amnot sure if either of the sons are so committed ot the monarchy that they will work really hard, and commit to it, and so if there was a scandal, a war, a big crisis of some kind, they might be willing to "let it go" wihout any protest.
Unseen photos of Meghan Markle are revealed | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4783306/Meghan-unmasked-Unseen-photos-Harry-s-girlfriend.html?mrn_rm=rta-fallback&login#readerCommentsCommand-message-field)
Includes a few photos of Meghan as a teen and young adult. :)
^ Yes, I saw that. I think the DM is playing bad cop/good cop again in their usual way, in the run-up to a presumed engagement, with broad hints about exes and abrupt divorces, California lifestyles and Canadian ice hockey players, mixed with nice offerings from friends. Hoping to provoke clickbait of course, at a quiet time for the royals.
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Mike Tindall says Meghan 'will be fine' once she joins the Royal Family. I think it was nice of him to say that.
Mike Tindall says Meghan Markle will be “absolutely fine” joining The Royal Family – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/mike-tindall-says-meghan-markle-will-be-absolutely-fine-joining-the-royal-family-86821)
I read somewhere a while back about how excited Afro-British are about a woman of color becoming a member of the BRF. Could not find that bu this was posted on another board:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/12/if-prince-harry-marries-meghan-itll-be-a-game-changer-for-black-people-in-britain-6838944/#ixzz4pYKbdKDu
Meghan Markle's last romance before Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4787292/Truth-Meghan-s-romance-Prince-Harry.html)
@Curryong -A bit of that good/bad cop thing in this article too.
This is something the Daily Fail does incessantly with celebrities and royals they feel are quite controversial and so will attract plenty of clicks. A few compliments followed by a stab in the back and vice versa.
They're being a bit unfair to M however, as she is a private citizen at the moment, and really what business is it of the DM's if she did dump her boyfriend for Harry? As a single woman she wasn't obligated to her chef boyfriend, who has really said absolutely nothing against her. Neither as her ex husband.
If the DM editorial staff has thoughts that they are going to give Meghan the Duchess of York treatment after marriage, setting up rivalries with Kate etc then I think they'd better think again. Harry's no Andrew, he's a live wire, who's likely to issue plenty of Press Complaints. Meghan doesn't appear to be anti-litigious herself. Nor is the scene so favourable to the Press as it was in the 1990s.
QuoteIf the DM editorial staff has thoughts that they are going to give Meghan the Duchess of York treatment after marriage, setting up rivalries with Kate etc then I think they'd better think again
Even if Harry were to file a complaint, I sadly believe that it will happen as those stories just generate the income that the press wants. :no: Consider at the recent story from Paul Burrell regarding Diana and Kate or anything that involves even fashion between the royal ladies. :shrug:
Kate broke up with her boyfriend around the time she met William. She was not given such a hard time by the media
Kate press harrassment: Articles and video from 2007-2010
Stop harassing Kate, pleads William - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1539043/Stop-harassing-Kate-pleads-William.html)
Kate 'settles' press harassment claim - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1547678/Kate-settles-press-harassment-claim.html)
Kate Middleton's complaint about the Mirror to the PCC | Media | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/media/2007/mar/30/pressandpublishing.themonarchy1)
Kate 'settles' press harassment claim - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1547678/Kate-settles-press-harassment-claim.html)
Kate Middleton suffers paparazzi harassment on her birthday - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhByqJeXNag)
And there was that lawsuit re: the Middletons on the tennis court. Harry complained about how Meghan was treated. So maybe there will be wedding bells for them.
What I meant was TLK Kate was not given a hard time over breaking up with a boyfriend when she met WIlliam. There seem to be more complaints about Meghan and her previous boyfriend breaking up.
@sandy-Why would we compare the non-existent press coverage of Kate's college break up with Harry Ropner to a pair of public figures like Meghan and her previous boyfriend Cory Vitellio? :shrug:
It was covered in the press or else how would anybody have known? I never heard of Cory and Meghan until she started dating Harry. I don't follow the show Suits.
Yes but why would you compare the press coverage about the breakup of public figures Meghan and Cory to the non-existent one for a pair of college students-Kate and Harry?
Kate was no ordinary student. But I still did not hear of Meghan and Cory until she started seeing Harry.
QuoteKate was no ordinary student.
Of course she was until she was identified as William's girlfriend prior to that she was just another student at St. Andrew's.
It took quite a while for Kate to be identified as William's love interest as far as I remember, though I admit I didn't follow the romance closely. Of course there were embargoes on the media while Will remained at university, but I believe the couple did go out with friends a lot, which did mask things for nearly a year after they dated.
I think the first sign that Kate and William were dating seriously came with photos on a skiing holiday they took together with Charles. The couple were very much protected by the embargo and by university life which allowed a fair bit of freedom. I really can't remember an awful lot of press intrusion when William and Kate were living together in Wales either.
Harry, because he never attended Uni, never got those embargoes. He and Chelsy were rather naive and were photographed together often though she certainly didn't like being chased around by paps. He tried different tactics with Cressida like going almost completely underground which didn't really work either, and the secrecy has continued with Meghan. It irritates me somewhat because, although I do understand a desire for privacy while building a relationship, I feel it doesn't allow much if any time for the British public to get used to them being a couple in love or for people to get to know her before an engagement announcement.
TLLK, I know the relationship between Victoria and Daniel was a long one before they were allowed to marry, but were they seen out together a lot and photographed in those early years? I didn't take that much notice at the time, and know that the Swedish media is nothing like the British!
I do know that Felipe's engagement to Letizia came as quite a surprise to the general populace, as did Gui and Stephanie of Lux's and Pilippe and Mathilde's of Belgium in their respective countries. There was none of this constant speculation that senior British royals are subjected to.
I recall it was soon after the 21st birthday party of WIll when people thought he was dating Jecca. Kate's name started appearing in the news and her pictures and those pictures of her modeling in the see through dress at University where then it was thought she was his girlfriend. The rumors started and to confirm them after a while, there was that skiing picture of their hugging on the slopes. She only lived with him in Wales much later on right before the engagement was announced. As I recall it was for weekends since he was in the service and she was living for the most of the time with her parents.
QuoteIt took quite a while for Kate to be identified as William's love interest as far as I remember, though I admit I didn't follow the romance closely. Of course there were embargoes on the media while Will remained at university, but I believe the couple did go out with friends a lot, which did mask things for nearly a year after they dated.
@Curryong-Exactly right as their friendship and later romantic involvement took time to take hold. So their relationship was noticed by the press long after Kate and Harry would have broken up so comparing that break up with Meghan and Cory's doesn't really make sense.
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QuoteTLLK, I know the relationship between Victoria and Daniel was a long one before they were allowed to marry, but were they seen out together a lot and photographed in those early years? I didn't take that much notice at the time, and know that the Swedish media is nothing like the British!
I do know that Felipe's engagement to Letizia came as quite a surprise to the general populace, as did Gui and Stephanie of Lux's and Pilippe and Mathilde's of Belgium in their respective countries. There was none of this constant speculation that senior British royals are subjected to.
TBH
@Curryong I don't really know how often they were photographed together but that may have been limited to Scandinavian and German publications. Victoria seems to be very well-liked and respected by the home press so I get the feeling that their relationship didn't warrant the same tabloid frenzy that her peers in the UK, NL, Spain, Norway and Denmark received while they were dating their future spouses. (Considering the fact that the press may have played a partial role in Victoria's eating disorder, they may have been chosen to hold back.) Belgium's press seems to have been taken by complete surprise that Phillipe was dating at all!
IMO the Spanish language tabloid press seems to be as aggressive as the English language ones and they too have a very large audience. W-A and Maxima's relationship introduced an entire continent to other European royals besides those in Spain so that brought more attention to royal romances. Felipe had been previously linked with a Norwegian model before Letizia but that relationship ended after Haakon and Mette-Marit's wedding. He and Letizia had a short but intense dating period before announcing their engagement which seemed to take everyone in Spain by surprise.
Both Kate and Meghan had previous relationships (Meghan also a divorcee). Meghan and Harry could very well succeed as a couple but time will tell.
I remember before the Kate stories came out the papers had the story of WIll and Jecca's "pretend engagement" in Africa.
According to the Daily Fail local newspapers in Botswana reported that Harry and Meghan (and RPOs) crossed the Botswana border at a small border post a few days ago. The Fail reports that local officials have been asked to look out for them as they are believed to be heading for the Victoria Falls to round up their holiday.
What a fantastic sight the Falls must be. I've seen Niagara but I wouldn't mind seeing these at all!
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle round off African holiday | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4824730/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-round-Africa-holiday.html)
Marriage. I believe so. Time will tell. As for MM, her ex boyfriend, ex husband, MM is a C-D list actress on a cable tv show, Suits, on A&E channel. That channel is so so. The show is so so.
It is not a hot cable tv show like Power on HBO.
I am not taking a dig at MM.
There is nothing wrong or bad about the show, Suits, A&E, or MM being C/D list actress.
If anything, this all works out in her favor being with H in that she is not AmyAdams,ScarletJohanson, etc. known.
According to a local Zambian newspaper Harry and Meghan have now left Zambia (presumably for London.) This short article is very detailed. It says they took a helicopter ride over the city of Livingson and the Victoria Falls. (How fantastic would that be!) It also states that they are believed to have stayed at a Lodge (very much under the radar apparently) and refers to Meghan as Harry's fiancee!
Prince Harry leaves Zambia – The Mast Online (https://www.themastonline.com/2017/08/28/prince-harry-leaves-zambia/)
Meghan Markle engagement to Prince Harry exposes 'quiet' racism - NBC News (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/world/amp/meghan-markle-engagement-prince-harry-exposes-quiet-racism-n825516)
^ I have thought a lot of the negativity about Meghan has been because of this underlying factor. Harry has already spoken of his disgust for that behavior & rightly so.
I for one I am glad the bigots have been exposed. Unfortunately the monarchy has to rely on the support of bigots sometimes so they try to appease them. I always like it when the true Britain is exposed in all its glory rather than trying to project an image of a civilized tolerant society that does not exist.
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I for one I am glad the bigots have been exposed. Unfortunately the monarchy has to rely on the support of bigots sometimes so they try to appease them. I always like it when the true Britain is exposed in all its glory rather than trying to project an image of a civilized tolerant society that does not exist.
What does that mean? Are you saying that British society is full of "bigots"?
Well IMO it seems that is the biggest problem though not expressed by some on this forum. The most vocal IMO is her being American an actress etc is a falsehood it is good old fashioned bigotry. So Meghan is mixed raced last time I looked she was as beautiful and human as a total Caucasion who like the rest of us breathes, eat, speaks, loves the same as anyone else. Harry chose a woman based on her personality and shared his interests not her racial profile looking at the two of them together this is love at it's most beautiful and I can see a very strong marriage ahead.
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Quote from: amabel on December 04, 2017, 11:15:46 AM
What does that mean? Are you saying that British society is full of "bigots"?
Amabel it is not just the British it is rampant here in the States as I am sure you have read.
but that's not what Royalantrhopolist said. Or at least that was what I undertsood her to be saying, that British society is "full of bigots"....underneath a fa?ade of being "civilised.."
^ That was my impression too. Bigotry is a world problem though.