Who did what, when and how to Edward V and the Duke of York

Started by TLLK, March 31, 2015, 07:10:53 PM

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TLLK

Your theories on the disappearance of the York heirs to the throne.   :(

Macrobug

They were a threat to Richard 3 and to Henry 7 (especially after re - legitimizing his wife).

Not certain about Richard 3 but IMO Henry knew they were dead before legitimizing Elizabeth.  Does that mean he was guilty of their deaths....not necessary but he would have been pretty certain they were no longer a threat.  And so, likely had a good idea of what happened to them.
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TLLK

^^^ I agree that someone assured Henry VII that Edward and Richard would not be a concern prior to legitimizing the York princesses.  Who knew what happened and who was responsible has never been prove though the usual  lead back to Richard III, Margaret Beaufort along with other Lancaster supporters, the Duke of Buckingham. I doubt that anyone in the kingdom would have been happy with an underage monarch and a regency council considering that the country had experienced a similar scenario with Henry VI. Too many factions fighting for their "right" to the throne.

Henry VII still had to face claims from pretenders like Lambert Sinnel and Perkin Warbeck along with locking up and later executing Edward Warwick. His son later finished off his other Plantagenet relatives. :cry: 

Curryong

However Henry wasn't as bloodthirsty as many medieval kings, including his predecessor. Sim ele was given a job in the royal kitchens and later became the king's falconer.

As for Warbeck, he and Warwick conspired together in the Tower, with the assistance of government agents who wanted them gone, it's true. However, previously he had been allowed to live under guard at court, separate from his wife. This lasted for eighteen months and then he tried to escape. I don't know how many medieval kings would allow conspiracies and escapes by their enemies without executions.

When modern police investigate murders they find out who immediately benefits from this death. Who was Lord Protector? Who placed the Princes in the Tower in the first place? To whom did the Constable of the Tower owe allegiance in 1483? Not Buckingham, not Margaret Beaufort.

Who seized the throne and became King himself in his nephew's place? Not Buckingham. Not the Duke of Richmond.
Richard.
Richard, who felt that a minor on the throne would come under the influence of the Queen, his mother, and the hated Wydeville clan. Richard, who could see his power base shrinking by the day if his nephew ever became king.