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Offline Hale

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Sentebale
« on: October 16, 2010, 06:13:09 AM »
I thought it was time we had a thread totally devoted to Sentebale, Prince Harry's charity.  Here's its homepage:  http://www.sentebale.org/home/index.html

And this is the latest on Sentebale: 

Sentebale - Lerato

It's a sad, but sweet case study.
 


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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 06:54:27 AM »
That's to bad Harry only has time to dedicate once or twice a year, in person.
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 08:16:09 AM »
So true, especially considering how often he visits Africa for social trips.
 


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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 10:53:31 AM »
curious... I haven't had a chance to go through the links above... does it say he only visit once or twice a year, I know he's busy w/the military so it's sort of understandable??  And it would be nice if he could fit more into his schedule...
But if it doesn't say that, how do you know he doesn't visit when he's there on his own, like I said just curious... have you seen something elsewhere or what?  

OT: @ Wannabe and PP
this thread is about Sentebale & Harry; being critical is alright, completely understandable, but sometimes your posts can come across as your picking a fight... and a little of that goes a long way... I know everyone has an opinion, again, I'm not saying we can't be critical, if it's constructive...
the criticizim comes with solutions...
I'm saying this because... well... it's just the constant bashing doesn't make posting here much fun...
maybe your not and I apologize...
I for one would like to have at least one thread where it doens't become another Harry warzone...
That's just me and if you don't agree then you don't, but I wanted to ask...
I mom always said if you dont' ask you won't know... :shrug:  

anyway...

BOT:  I hope they do another Polo match again at the beginning of the year like this year, It would be nice if they came to the West coast of the US to play.  I know polo is/was big in SoCal... he could probably raise alot of $$ and that would be great for the charity...  anyone else have any ideas on how Sentebale could raise money?  I was thinking charity football match would be fun... anyone else...
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2010, 11:01:26 AM »
It just seems a bit hypocritical of Harry to claim that Sentebale is so near & dear to his heart, yet he's only made 2 trips there in how many years? Meanwhile, makes several visits a year for social reasons. It's just a bit disheartening.
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2010, 11:09:38 AM »
but you have no way of know what he does or doesn't do behind close doors... like I said being critical is ok, if you have something constructive behind it... so if you think he should do more, then what, what should he do?
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2010, 11:22:10 AM »
IIRC, in the video of his Africa trip with his brother this summer, he said that it was an emotional return, as he hadn't been back since his GAP year. IIRC, his "busy schedule" prevented him from visiting Lesotho. However, he has made several trips every year since then, for personal reasons.  He *could* have visited the children he claims are so near & dear to him, but he didn't.

It's great that he is raising money for them through the polo matches -- I'm sure the children benefit more from the money than his visits.

Until this summer, I was very impressed. But, I'm now doubting his sincerity.
 


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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2010, 04:27:46 PM »
Can you tell us exactly how MANY trips Prince Harry made to SA, for social reasons?
Can you tell us exactly how long those social trips were? 2 days 5 days etc..
Can you tell us exactly where he spent those times?

In the meantime, why not stop the Harry bashing. If you have nothing positive to give for this topic , don't comment. Prince Harry is supportive to his charity and gives time and his name to it.

I also agree Prince Harry doing a polo match in California sound like a terrific Idea. Perhaps it should not be the same venue for years to come, or at least increase the number of polo games he participates in  for this cause.  Perhaps 3 a year. THat can't be too tiring , surely.
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2010, 06:18:29 PM »
SB, the media makes a circus every time Harry is involved personally with Sentebale.  If he were more involved than what has been given to us, it would be nice that Sentebale or the palace PR machines would let us know, rather than the yearly rounds of administration, financial problems of that organization.

Positive outlook, to me is that no matter how and what legal and creative or non creative ways they raise the money, it will go to the Charity Harry supports and is patron to.

http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,40177.0.html  Sentebale appoints new chief executive
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,40150.0.html  Sentebale - general information and stories of inspiration
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,44080.0.html  Harry's Sentebale Charity - Billy Franks appeal
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,39907.0.html  Sentebale saved from crisis by Lord Ashcroft donation
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,43983.0.html  Sentebale's chief executive interviewed
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,46420.0.html  Sentebale receives funding from UNICEF
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,44224.0.html  Sentebale swindled by Conservative MP - UPDATE MP denies allegation
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,40603.0.html  Sentebale: Inskips Fundraiser
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,37961.0.html  Sentebale accused of 'failing' orphans
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,39636.0.html  Sentebale accused of not honouring pledge to abused African children
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,44159.0.html  Prince Harry hit by charity resignation
http://royalinsight.net/forum/index.php/topic,40208.0.html   American friends of Sentebale polo match  
and more...
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2010, 08:38:49 PM »
In the meantime, why not stop the Harry bashing. If you have nothing positive to give for this topic , don't comment. Prince Harry is supportive to his charity and gives time and his name to it.


Initially, I thought Harry would be much more hands on with Sentebale.  It's disappointing that he hasn't made the time to be more involved.   Maybe when he's in a relationship with someone who is supportive of his charity work, he'll be able to make the time to visit Lesotho more than when the cameras are rolling?
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2010, 09:57:49 PM »
Chelsy is out of the picture as far as I'm concerned. :(
 I have always felt your obvious dislike of the girl, was to do with the fact  YOU were likely NOT  accepted into her circle, if it is true that you do know her.

Now I doubt if you know Prince Harry's daily schedule and future schedule anymore then the rest of us. NOR do you know what transpires behind the scenes. SO why not give him the benefit of the doubt regarding how much time and effort he puts into his charity? :)
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2010, 10:01:06 PM »
This is about Harry's inability to make the time visit the orphans he claims are so near & dear to him. I just don't understand why he couldn't, or wouldn't, make the time to visit them when he was a stone's throw away from them?  I guess visiting them just wasn't a priority to him. At least he's using a hobby, polo, to raise funds for them.
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2010, 10:08:51 PM »
Exactly,  Pinkpearls.  Kate, her feelings concerning Chelsy shouldn't be an issue in this thread.  It's not what it's about.

That said, with his military duties, maybe he can only have a hands-on approach a few times a year at the most.

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2010, 10:38:41 PM »
You are probably right, SF :flower:, however, now the tone of certain posters dealing with Prince Harry, seems familiar. Let's give the lad the benefit of doubt, for now.. IMO, he has a full plate, with his life..
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2010, 12:59:48 AM »
Sadly, I expect as his military duties increase, he will have even less time for hands-on work with Sentebale, except perhaps the polo games. I wonder if there will be a 2nd Sentebale Polo Cup in Barbados again? 

 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2010, 01:35:20 AM »
Agree to Disagree!!!!

NO ONE here absolutely knows PRINCE HARRY's schedule here or abroad except those close around him.  Which to the best of my knowledge is NO ONE here, correct, so that said...
if you have concerns that he isn't doing enough fine, what would you have him DOING to correct it!!!  If you think with what you do know that he's doing enough considering then, what kind of things would you like to see him do to improve the fundraising and awareness efforts.

@ Wannabe I know the issues that Sentebale have had, that is why I think that Hale starting this thread is great... too me it has seemed the Harry hasn't had the proper guidance on how to get things going, he's young and I think his family didn't serve him well in getting it started... now it seems since it has been merged with Wills charities, my hope is Harry will get better advise and do better raising awareness not just money...

Whether or not he is in a relationship is not the point of this thread... it's about a specific patronage of Harrys... so could we please keep the discussion there...  what kind of events could he do, has anyone donated... etc..

So like I said in one of my previous post Polo is one of my ideas... my other was a football friendly with well know people, not necessarily celebrities... it my be more feasible as he wouldn't have to travel abroad to do it.  He knows Beckham and has other connections... I think it could be fun... anyone else have any thoughts or ideas??
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 01:43:48 AM »
I'm just concerned that with his intense training, there will be less & less time to do anything other than fundraise. He missed opportunities to spend time there.

I noticed Sentebale has a JustGiving pages, but it doesn't look like it's a strong source of funds.

http://www.justgiving.com/sentebale

One couple asked for donations in lieu of wedding gifts -- they became engaged in Lesotho. How sweet!
http://www.justgiving.com/richardandfionawedding
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2010, 02:01:58 AM »
Thanks for those links, PP...
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2010, 02:19:39 AM »
I'm just concerned that with his intense training, there will be less & less time to do anything other than fundraise. He missed opportunities to spend time there.

I noticed Sentebale has a JustGiving pages, but it doesn't look like it's a strong source of funds.

http://www.justgiving.com/sentebale

One couple asked for donations in lieu of wedding gifts -- they became engaged in Lesotho. How sweet!
http://www.justgiving.com/richardandfionawedding

I'm afraid that will happen if he has an increase in military duties.  Not to mention his royal engagements.  I just hope he can find time to continnue to contribute to Sentebale.
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2010, 04:30:17 AM »
No one really knows how many times Harry has visited. Some visits were not known for months afterwards because he visited secretly. Not all his visits are taken with a cameraman.
You also do not have to be physically in the place to help. He has done charity polo matches, concert money has gone towards the charity and other events have helped make money.
He has also taken his military buddies to the country to help build homes for the children.
Harry has a demanding job helping to protect our country which prevents him visiting whenever he wishes. He has said himself that he wishes he could visit more.

But he has helped make Lesoto a name most people know. It was an unknown country before Harry visited and thanks to him people all over the world now know what is happening there.

He has set up a charity to help and whenever he can he visits and has raised millions.

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2010, 05:03:07 AM »
@ M_K well said :friends:
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2010, 06:27:07 AM »
It just seems a bit hypocritical of Harry to claim that Sentebale is so near & dear to his heart, yet he's only made 2 trips there in how many years? Meanwhile, makes several visits a year for social reasons. It's just a bit disheartening.

Whenever Harry goes to Africa he ALWAYS visits at Sentebale.  Sadly that isn't always reported in the press.

 http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/newsandgallery/focus/prince_william_and_prince_harry_to_visit_botswana_lesotho_an_1164738177.html

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Prince Harry visited Botswana and Lesotho in July 2008 whilst participating in the Burnaby Blue Foundation expedition. He has also visited privately on a number of occasions.

Incidentally, I created this topic by way of keeping everyone updated on what is happening with Sentebale.
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2010, 06:42:15 AM »
Thankyou for those links and info Hale.

I have always found it frustrating that the press has always tried to find fault in Sentebale. Harry is doing an amazing thing
 

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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2010, 06:57:31 AM »
He is.  Just because he isn't doing much by some people's standards doesn't mean he isn't giving it all he's got. :thumbsup:
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Re: Sentebale
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2010, 07:53:09 AM »
 I am so impressed with Harry and his charity work.  :yesss: To start up an organization like this and to try and help people well he deservs kudos for that.  I am certain he does wish he could visit more, but its not like he can relocate to Lesotho at a moments notice. Its hard to do international development/charity work. It takes time and effort, I do wish the press would rememer that instead of try to find fault with him and his work. It may not be perfect, but sheesh at least its something.
 

 

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