I thought it was time we had a thread totally devoted to Sentebale, Prince Harry's charity. Here's its homepage: http://www.sentebale.org/home/index.html
And this is the latest on Sentebale:
Sentebale - Lerato (http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/personalprofiles/princewilliamprinceharry/princeharry/casestudies/sentebale_lerato_719240365.html)
It's a sad, but sweet case study.
That's to bad Harry only has time to dedicate once or twice a year, in person.
So true, especially considering how often he visits Africa for social trips.
curious... I haven't had a chance to go through the links above... does it say he only visit once or twice a year, I know he's busy w/the military so it's sort of understandable?? And it would be nice if he could fit more into his schedule...
But if it doesn't say that, how do you know he doesn't visit when he's there on his own, like I said just curious... have you seen something elsewhere or what?
OT: @ Wannabe and PP
this thread is about Sentebale & Harry; being critical is alright, completely understandable, but sometimes your posts can come across as your picking a fight... and a little of that goes a long way... I know everyone has an opinion, again, I'm not saying we can't be critical, if it's constructive...
the criticizim comes with solutions...
I'm saying this because... well... it's just the constant bashing doesn't make posting here much fun...
maybe your not and I apologize...
I for one would like to have at least one thread where it doens't become another Harry warzone...
That's just me and if you don't agree then you don't, but I wanted to ask...
I mom always said if you dont' ask you won't know... :shrug:
anyway...
BOT: I hope they do another Polo match again at the beginning of the year like this year, It would be nice if they came to the West coast of the US to play. I know polo is/was big in SoCal... he could probably raise alot of $$ and that would be great for the charity... anyone else have any ideas on how Sentebale could raise money? I was thinking charity football match would be fun... anyone else...
It just seems a bit hypocritical of Harry to claim that Sentebale is so near & dear to his heart, yet he's only made 2 trips there in how many years? Meanwhile, makes several visits a year for social reasons. It's just a bit disheartening.
but you have no way of know what he does or doesn't do behind close doors... like I said being critical is ok, if you have something constructive behind it... so if you think he should do more, then what, what should he do?
IIRC, in the video of his Africa trip with his brother this summer, he said that it was an emotional return, as he hadn't been back since his GAP year. IIRC, his "busy schedule" prevented him from visiting Lesotho. However, he has made several trips every year since then, for personal reasons. He *could* have visited the children he claims are so near & dear to him, but he didn't.
It's great that he is raising money for them through the polo matches -- I'm sure the children benefit more from the money than his visits.
Until this summer, I was very impressed. But, I'm now doubting his sincerity.
Can you tell us exactly how MANY trips Prince Harry made to SA, for social reasons?
Can you tell us exactly how long those social trips were? 2 days 5 days etc..
Can you tell us exactly where he spent those times?
In the meantime, why not stop the Harry bashing. If you have nothing positive to give for this topic , don't comment. Prince Harry is supportive to his charity and gives time and his name to it.
I also agree Prince Harry doing a polo match in California sound like a terrific Idea. Perhaps it should not be the same venue for years to come, or at least increase the number of polo games he participates in for this cause. Perhaps 3 a year. THat can't be too tiring , surely.
SB, the media makes a circus every time Harry is involved personally with Sentebale. If he were more involved than what has been given to us, it would be nice that Sentebale or the palace PR machines would let us know, rather than the yearly rounds of administration, financial problems of that organization.
Positive outlook, to me is that no matter how and what legal and creative or non creative ways they raise the money, it will go to the Charity Harry supports and is patron to.
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,40177.0.html Sentebale appoints new chief executive
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,40150.0.html Sentebale - general information and stories of inspiration
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,44080.0.html Harry's Sentebale Charity - Billy Franks appeal
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,39907.0.html Sentebale saved from crisis by Lord Ashcroft donation
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,43983.0.html Sentebale's chief executive interviewed
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,46420.0.html Sentebale receives funding from UNICEF
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,44224.0.html Sentebale swindled by Conservative MP - UPDATE MP denies allegation
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,40603.0.html Sentebale: Inskips Fundraiser
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,37961.0.html Sentebale accused of 'failing' orphans
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,39636.0.html Sentebale accused of not honouring pledge to abused African children
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,44159.0.html Prince Harry hit by charity resignation
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php/topic,40208.0.html American friends of Sentebale polo match
and more...
Quote from: Kate on October 16, 2010, 10:27:46 AM
In the meantime, why not stop the Harry bashing. If you have nothing positive to give for this topic , don't comment. Prince Harry is supportive to his charity and gives time and his name to it.
Initially, I thought Harry would be much more hands on with Sentebale. It's disappointing that he hasn't made the time to be more involved. Maybe when he's in a relationship with someone who is supportive of his charity work, he'll be able to make the time to visit Lesotho more than when the cameras are rolling?
Chelsy is out of the picture as far as I'm concerned. :(
I have always felt your obvious dislike of the girl, was to do with the fact YOU were likely NOT accepted into her circle, if it is true that you do know her.
Now I doubt if you know Prince Harry's daily schedule and future schedule anymore then the rest of us. NOR do you know what transpires behind the scenes. SO why not give him the benefit of the doubt regarding how much time and effort he puts into his charity? :)
This is about Harry's inability to make the time visit the orphans he claims are so near & dear to him. I just don't understand why he couldn't, or wouldn't, make the time to visit them when he was a stone's throw away from them? I guess visiting them just wasn't a priority to him. At least he's using a hobby, polo, to raise funds for them.
Exactly, Pinkpearls. Kate, her feelings concerning Chelsy shouldn't be an issue in this thread. It's not what it's about.
That said, with his military duties, maybe he can only have a hands-on approach a few times a year at the most.
You are probably right, SF :flower:, however, now the tone of certain posters dealing with Prince Harry, seems familiar. Let's give the lad the benefit of doubt, for now.. IMO, he has a full plate, with his life..
Sadly, I expect as his military duties increase, he will have even less time for hands-on work with Sentebale, except perhaps the polo games. I wonder if there will be a 2nd Sentebale Polo Cup in Barbados again?
Agree to Disagree!!!!
NO ONE here absolutely knows PRINCE HARRY's schedule here or abroad except those close around him. Which to the best of my knowledge is NO ONE here, correct, so that said...
if you have concerns that he isn't doing enough fine, what would you have him DOING to correct it!!! If you think with what you do know that he's doing enough considering then, what kind of things would you like to see him do to improve the fundraising and awareness efforts.
@ Wannabe I know the issues that Sentebale have had, that is why I think that Hale starting this thread is great... too me it has seemed the Harry hasn't had the proper guidance on how to get things going, he's young and I think his family didn't serve him well in getting it started... now it seems since it has been merged with Wills charities, my hope is Harry will get better advise and do better raising awareness not just money...
Whether or not he is in a relationship is not the point of this thread... it's about a specific patronage of Harrys... so could we please keep the discussion there... what kind of events could he do, has anyone donated... etc..
So like I said in one of my previous post Polo is one of my ideas... my other was a football friendly with well know people, not necessarily celebrities... it my be more feasible as he wouldn't have to travel abroad to do it. He knows Beckham and has other connections... I think it could be fun... anyone else have any thoughts or ideas??
I'm just concerned that with his intense training, there will be less & less time to do anything other than fundraise. He missed opportunities to spend time there.
I noticed Sentebale has a JustGiving pages, but it doesn't look like it's a strong source of funds.
http://www.justgiving.com/sentebale
One couple asked for donations in lieu of wedding gifts -- they became engaged in Lesotho. How sweet!
http://www.justgiving.com/richardandfionawedding
Thanks for those links, PP...
Quote from: pinkpearls on October 16, 2010, 07:43:48 PM
I'm just concerned that with his intense training, there will be less & less time to do anything other than fundraise. He missed opportunities to spend time there.
I noticed Sentebale has a JustGiving pages, but it doesn't look like it's a strong source of funds.
http://www.justgiving.com/sentebale
One couple asked for donations in lieu of wedding gifts -- they became engaged in Lesotho. How sweet!
http://www.justgiving.com/richardandfionawedding
I'm afraid that will happen if he has an increase in military duties. Not to mention his royal engagements. I just hope he can find time to continnue to contribute to Sentebale.
No one really knows how many times Harry has visited. Some visits were not known for months afterwards because he visited secretly. Not all his visits are taken with a cameraman.
You also do not have to be physically in the place to help. He has done charity polo matches, concert money has gone towards the charity and other events have helped make money.
He has also taken his military buddies to the country to help build homes for the children.
Harry has a demanding job helping to protect our country which prevents him visiting whenever he wishes. He has said himself that he wishes he could visit more.
But he has helped make Lesoto a name most people know. It was an unknown country before Harry visited and thanks to him people all over the world now know what is happening there.
He has set up a charity to help and whenever he can he visits and has raised millions.
@ M_K well said :friends:
Quote from: pinkpearls on October 16, 2010, 05:01:26 AM
It just seems a bit hypocritical of Harry to claim that Sentebale is so near & dear to his heart, yet he's only made 2 trips there in how many years? Meanwhile, makes several visits a year for social reasons. It's just a bit disheartening.
Whenever Harry goes to Africa he ALWAYS visits at Sentebale. Sadly that isn't always reported in the press.
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/newsandgallery/focus/prince_william_and_prince_harry_to_visit_botswana_lesotho_an_1164738177.html
QuotePrince Harry visited Botswana and Lesotho in July 2008 whilst participating in the Burnaby Blue Foundation expedition. He has also visited privately on a number of occasions.
Incidentally, I created this topic by way of keeping everyone updated on what is happening with Sentebale.
Thankyou for those links and info Hale.
I have always found it frustrating that the press has always tried to find fault in Sentebale. Harry is doing an amazing thing
He is. Just because he isn't doing much by some people's standards doesn't mean he isn't giving it all he's got. :thumbsup:
I am so impressed with Harry and his charity work. :yesss: To start up an organization like this and to try and help people well he deservs kudos for that. I am certain he does wish he could visit more, but its not like he can relocate to Lesotho at a moments notice. Its hard to do international development/charity work. It takes time and effort, I do wish the press would rememer that instead of try to find fault with him and his work. It may not be perfect, but sheesh at least its something.
Harry doesn't have to physically be in Africa in order to be "hands-on" with Sentebale. I think that people are saying that getting down there and mucking around in the mud is more important then raising hundreds of thousands of dollars by going out and doing charity polo matches or asking for donations or simply putting his name on it and getting the word out. IMO, that stuff, while it doesn't require him to be in Africa and doesn't give him "face time" with those people he is helping is just as, if not more important then visiting. I have to admit, I don't think that Harry accomplishes much by going down there himself, especially when it turns into the media circus that some members seem to think is either necessary (so he can "prove" to us that he was there), or helpful.
I'm putting this in Harry's section because the reporting is mostly about him ( :)), and the video is of Harry. Nice big pictures, and the video, of course! You may have to wait a few seconds for the video to appear.
QuotePrince Harry yesterday hosted a charity polo tournament to raise money for African children - but it was brother Prince William who claimed the trophy.
The Duke of Cambridge and his little brother lined up on opposing teams for the Sentebale Polo Cup, which was played in pouring rain and strong winds at Coworth Park near Ascot, Berkshire.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/06/13/prince-william-and-prince-harry-play-charity-polo-match-pictures-and-video-115875-23198713/#ixzz1P9hvcqjn
Cindy
Thanks for sharing Cinrit. Doesn't my baby sound great???? :yesss: :yesss:
Quote from: Hale on June 13, 2011, 12:22:27 PM
Thanks for sharing Cinrit. Doesn't my baby sound great???? :yesss: :yesss:
:postcount:
Quote from: cinrit on June 13, 2011, 11:45:43 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/06/13/prince-william-and-prince-harry-play-charity-polo-match-pictures-and-video-115875-23198713/#ixzz1P9hvcqjn
that last pic of Harry...I spy with my little eye, something beginning with B :huh2:
^^^Haaaha haaahahaha....was trying to figure out what the heck you where talking about and then I clicked...hehehehehehe
Quote from: MissComplexSimplicity on June 13, 2011, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: cinrit on June 13, 2011, 11:45:43 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/06/13/prince-william-and-prince-harry-play-charity-polo-match-pictures-and-video-115875-23198713/#ixzz1P9hvcqjn
that last pic of Harry...I spy with my little eye, something beginning with B :huh2:
Jeez ... you guys! :sarcastic: LOL!!
Cindy
:laugh10: :lmao3: :teehee:
^ Steady on, guys. Let's not get tooo excited ! ...
Harry's looking and sounding great. Couldn't have been too much fun in all that rain!
Quote from: MissComplexSimplicity on June 13, 2011, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: cinrit on June 13, 2011, 11:45:43 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/06/13/prince-william-and-prince-harry-play-charity-polo-match-pictures-and-video-115875-23198713/#ixzz1P9hvcqjn
that last pic of Harry...I spy with my little eye, something beginning with B :huh2:
Head of out the gutter please :)
Don't they have protective gear?
^That's what I was going to say :)
Here's a cute video of the Sentebale polo cup.. not sure if it has been posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rylsb9ihTSE
Quote
Acutely aware of the difficulties that his charity for African orphans has encountered in the past, Prince Harry has made two significant appointments.
Mandrake can disclose that the 26-year-old Prince has recruited a former boss of the computer giant IBM to join the board of Sentebale, along with a respected top accountant. "It is always beneficial to get new minds on board," Harry's spokesman tells me.
Larry Hirst, who was appointed as a business adviser to the then prime minister Gordon Brown after he retired as chairman of IBM, will join Nigel Cox, a former audit manager at PricewaterhouseCoopers, on the board of the charity, which the Prince established in 2006.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/8713226/Prince-Harry-brings-new-minds-into-his-charity-for-African-orphans.html
Hope this is good news for the charity and that these new appointments enable Sentebale to go from strength to strength.
:nod: Wonder if he's planning a trip to Africa anytime soon or doing something for the East Africa famine refugees?! i think this is the perfect timing to visit Africa, Kenya would be a perfect place.
Quote from: MissComplexSimplicity on June 13, 2011, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: cinrit on June 13, 2011, 11:45:43 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/06/13/prince-william-and-prince-harry-play-charity-polo-match-pictures-and-video-115875-23198713/#ixzz1P9hvcqjn
that last pic of Harry...I spy with my little eye, something beginning with B :huh2:
Quote from: WOW on August 07, 2011, 06:11:39 PM
Unless she had a baby with Harry :unsure:
.....I am Soooooooooo confused ?????......What picture or other media is referenced to a baby??????..........
^^I think they are talking about his bulge.
His bulge & there was a joke about Hale having harry's baby.
....Ok I get it now !!!..............Whew I thought I had missed something B-I-G......in reference to the baby thing !!!!!......and for the bulge thing I better not comment..........LOL...... :girlblush:.....
I just found out that Sentebale has their own YouTube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/SentebaleCharity
^Thanks for posting the youtube link!
Indeed, many thanks! :D
" Prince Harry visits Oxfam to replace contentious charity boss: Prince Harry leads a shake-up of his charity for African orphans which sees his chief executive replaced by the Number Two at Oxfam. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9015154/Prince-Harry-visits-Oxfam-to-replace-contentious-charity-boss.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9015154/Prince-Harry-visits-Oxfam-to-replace-contentious-charity-boss.html)
Sentebale seems to be ill-fated with a yearly 'problem'.
Contentious charity boss...I'm curious to the cause of disagreement, argument, quarrels and/or disputes.
I have heard that charity doesn't go hand-in-hand with The Apache.
I agree , there is always something off in that organisation ,but what do you mean by doesn't go hand in hand?Do you mean Harry doesn't care or as in his training doesn't allow him to be more involved??
Every organization has it's problems its only that Harry's are reported ...other than that it seems the people in charge when the boss is away aren't exactly the people he should have trusted running things so good for him replacing them hope it all works out for the best.
With respect, we don't know if there are any problems with Sentebale. Kedge Martin, for all we know could have been made a better offer. Prior to joining Sentebale she worked for Well Child for 9 years which as you know Harry is a patron of. Her association with Sentebale, Harry's personal charity could have made her name in her field. Royal associations have a way of attracting attention.
In my view, his demise with Sentebale comes weeks after the financial report published by The Telegraph (there is a thread about that around November 2011), which somewhat said that they had only profited around GBP 1.5 during 2011, GBP 1 million was used for charity, the remaining for salary and operational expenses -- that would be in charity world "bad results". One shouldn't spend for salaries and operational expenses out of the total income in charity more than 10%.
:thanks: for that wannable. As you know I've been off the forum for awhile.
You're welcome
I'm impressed that there will be a polo match in Brazil , proceedings going to Sentebale. This is one charity that Prince Harry will be part of all his life, IMV...Looking forward to it!
I love this charity! This is wonderful news.
^ Echoed, Blue Clover.
I recall reading that Harry was besotted by Sentebale. It's not easy starting a charity from scratch and for this reason I'm at times disapointed by the press coverage it receives.
In the end they have got themselves to blame by hiring the wrong people and letting costs go up.They need to start running more efficiently and hiring people who don't charge as much.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/st-regis-hotels-resorts-champions-polo-in-brazil-with-st-regis-connoisseur-nacho-figueras-prince-harry-2012-02-01 (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/st-regis-hotels-resorts-champions-polo-in-brazil-with-st-regis-connoisseur-nacho-figueras-prince-harry-2012-02-01)
Talks about Sentebale and a charity polo match with Nacho Figueras.
The link doesn't work.
QuoteFebruary 01, 2012 09:05 AM Eastern Time
St. Regis Hotels & Resorts Champions Polo in Brazil with St. Regis Connoisseur Nacho Figueras & Prince Harry
St. Regis Continues Its Commitment to Polo around the World with The Sentebale Royal Salute Polo Cup in Sao Paolo, Brazil this March
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide, Inc. (NYSE: HOT) announces today that the St. Regis brand will expand its partnership with Sentebale, by joining the charitable polo match played in Brazil for the first time this March. The Sentebale Royal Salute Polo Cup aims to raise support for the improved healthcare and education of the children of Lesotho, and will have HRH Prince Harry, playing for the Sentebale team, against St. Regis Connoisseur Nacho Figueras, who will captain the St. Regis team.
"As an ambassador for Sentebale and St. Regis, I am looking forward to playing polo against Prince Harry in Brazil to help raise funds or this very worthy cause."
"As our global portfolio grows, so does the global nature of our guests. Particularly a new generation of affluent Brazilians, who are increasingly staying with the St. Regis brand around the world, so we are thrilled to have the opportunity to host an exciting day of polo on their own turf, with Sentebale," says Paul James, Global Brand Leader, St. Regis Hotels & Resorts. "With the World Cup and the Olympics on the horizon, this is an electric time to be in Brazil and we are looking forward to an exhilarating polo match, which is sure to raise awareness and funds for Prince Harry's charity."
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120201006084/en/St.-Regis-Hotels-Resorts-Champions-Polo-Brazil
I think Nacho Figueras is hot, what a lovely guy.
QuotePrince Harry's first official visit to Brazil will include a match of international polo, with the Sentebale Royal Salute Polo Cup on Sunday 11th of March, marking the finale of the Royal Tour.
Taking place in Campinhas, Sao Paulo State, the match will be a star-studded event both on and off the field with leading Argentine player Nacho Figueras heading up the St. Regis Team, rivaling the Sentebale Team which will include Prince Harry.
http://www.livingpolo.com/news/334070-sentebale-royal-salute-polo-cup/
Yes Nacho is very attractive. Thanks for the links Wannable. :thumbsup: Hope Harry does well, but above all hope they raise lots of cash for Sentebale.
You're welcome. Prince Harry will be finalizing today playing charity polo. Then he will be on a 3 day holiday, possibly in Pantanal.
First photos of Prince Harry in Sao Paolo, Sentebale charity polo
http://twitter.com/#!/SkyNewsRoyal/status/178866426998829056/photo/1/large
^ It looks rather empty.
Nacho Figueras interviewed by Paul Harrison, Sky News. He said politics of Argentina doesn't interfere with sport (polo), that a boy!
http://twitter.com/#!/julesskynews/status/178864446410731521/photo/1/large
^How can you tell it is empty? :teehee: editI mean fact is up until now MILLIONS have come out for him just saying...
Wannabe, he doesn't look like he's ready to play polo in that first pic, so maybe this was before the crowds got there?
The initial photo has no public in the background, despite the kick-off/arrival of HRH Prince Henry to the polo field, part of the event. (One arrives in style when the public is already there waiting for him/the game. Subsequent photos may possibly tell otherwise, i.e. if the public are in some stands :)
The public area is not in that direction, that's all. Here's a few pix of the spectators:
http://twitter.com/#!/julesskynews/status/178893126608490496/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/#!/julesskynews/status/178893126608490496/photo/1)
http://twitter.com/#!/julesskynews/status/178875359931019264/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/#!/julesskynews/status/178875359931019264/photo/1)
More photos http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.236336449796692.51234.121783024585369&type=3
Sentebale official Facebook page
The polo match started, you can view the Sentebale official Facebook page, they are up-dating or follow the royal correspondents (through twitter) touring with him; Paul Harrison @SkyNewsRoyal, Rebecca English @RE_DailyMail, Simon Perry @ SPerryPeopleMag
Too late to edit and add: The Sentebale team won over the St. Regis team http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=236436416453362&set=a.236336449796692.51234.121783024585369&type=3&theater
^ Trophy.
Whisky Royal Salute was the biggest benefactor of this Sentebale charity polo.
^ :laugh10:
QuoteHaving won over Brazil, now Harry's charity sees record gains of £2.1m to complete remarkable turnaround
Three years ago its future seemed uncertain, but just as Prince Harry has blossomed so, too, has the cause that he set up in memory of his mother.
Fresh from the triumph of his trip to the Caribbean and Brazil, the Prince has returned to learn that his personal charity Sentebale has recorded its best ever set of financial figures.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2114189/Prince-Harrys-charity-Sentebale-sees-record-gains-2-1m.html#ixzz1p2rcWHxE
Good for him, the staff of Sentebale :thumbsup:
Congratualations to Sentebale.
As for the Daily Fail's comments.........I now question everything they say. This is partly due to the fact they have ignored the fact that Harry started the charity from scratch. The Charities commission themselves said that it takes approximately 5 years for a charity to establish itself and because every so often the Daily Fail will publish an article to say how badly Sentebale is doing.....this despite the fact that Harry received an award in Germany on behalf of Sentebale's charitable efforts.
There is no pleasing them. Still, it keeps Harry's charity in the limelight.
Congrats indeed! This is great news for Harry's charity and even better his intention to expand the work Sentebale does for other disadvantaged children, not just in Lesotho.
As for the Daily Fail, who cares? (Well, I do, actually. Fisticuffs.)
Love some of the above comments (Hale, Lothwen, Macro.) I'd just like to add that I may need to brush up with the boxing gloves, gals. :catfight:
Wow! That is incredible news. Why isn't this type of news all over the place? It may encourage others to do goodworks.
Totally agree! The press has always wanted to play good cop, bad cop with William and Harry and I find that such a shame!
ITA! It is such a shame that the press feels it necessary to play them against each other. There is only two of them.
The Daily Mail was so obvious during Harry's Jubilee tour it was embarassing. The first story they ran had the headline "Party Prince" and pictures of him drinking. When the majority of the comments blasted them for that, the next story was very flattering to Harry, praising his compassion and his ease with his role. Then the third story they ran was all about how William had advised Harry on his trip.
That third story was embarrassing and silly.
The story in the DM about drinking rum and being the Party Prince was toned down because of a complaint from Harry's people And the one in the Sun tabloid which was worst was pulled from the paper Harry never drank what they said he did. The media had to correct the story because it was not true That lie would have hurt Harry, the tour and Sentebale It is one of the few times that St James place has protected Harry and they did it quickly
Sentebale is affiliated with Klosters Snow Polo 18th-22nd January 2013
Klosters Snow Polo (http://www.klosterspolo.com/en.html)
I wonder if this is where Harry will be making his first appearance post-Afghanistan?
I hope they raise lots of money for this good cause.
:goodpost: Me too! :nod:
QuoteWSU News Student's designs shown in Prince Harry charities fashion show
A Washington State University student was one of the featured designers at the Feb. 2 Royal Fashion Show benefit for two charities of England's Prince Harry of Wales.
Gordon Stumpo of Denver joined nearly 40 fashion students from around the world who had submitted entries for a design competition preceding the show, which was hosted by charities Pink Ribbons Crusade and Sentebale. The competition was judged by all-star designers and popular contestants from the TV series "Project Runway." Winning designs were showcased at the Bella Collina Towne and Golf Club in San Clemente, Calif.
WSU News Center - Student's designs shown in Prince Harry charities fashion show (http://news.wsu.edu/pages/publications.asp?Action=Detail&PublicationID=34895&TypeID=1)
"Sentebale is pleased to announce the Sentebale – Stories of Hope exhibition, will open at Getty Images Gallery, London on 26th July 2013 until 10th August, showcasing images by Getty Images' award-winning royal photographer Chris Jackson of Sentebale's work in helping the vulnerable children of Lesotho."
Sentebale | Sentebale announces photography exhibition (http://sentebale.org/sentebale-announces-opening-of-photography-exhibition/)
@Sentebale Prince Harry to attend private view with @ChrisJack_Getty at Sentebale #StoriesofHope exhibition @gettygallery on 25th July
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Sentebale on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/63898625)
Closing Day at San Diego Polo to Benefit Prince Harry's SENTEBALE
Sentebale
Sunday, September 29, 2013 from 12:30 PM to 7:00 PM
Rancho Santa Fe, United States
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Arriving in Lesotho, singer Joss Stone delighted locals with a live performance before paying a visit to impoverished communities that have been assisted by Sentebale, the charity set up by Prince Harry and Prince Seeiso of Lesotho to help those affected by extreme poverty, HIV and AIDS.
'Prince Harry is such a good, genuine person so when he or Prince William ask me to do anything, I know it's coming from a good place and I pay attention.
'Coming here, you realise it's not going to fix the whole of Lesotho, but it'll fix a lot for a lot of people.'
Starkey Hearing Foundation has built a powerful partnership in Lesotho with Sentebale, a charity founded by Prince Harry and Prince Seeiso to help the landlocked nation's most vulnerable children.
Sentebale (http://sentebale.org/)
This was posted at the first post in the thread, PoP, thank you for the reminder. :)
Good to hear Charles is getting involved; father-son moment!
Thank you snokitty for sharing the link. Enjoyed the video where Harry greets his father, step-mother and grandmother. He executes a near perfect plie to kiss his granny on the cheek before his bow.
Mr. Keightley is IMO a talented landscape architect and I like the background information that he shared regarding the plants and the inspiration for the design. While I believe he'd like to have used native plants from Lesotho I can understand the need to substitute European ones for the garden.
He and Charles must have had a great time tinkering with that and giving their opinions!
this is an example of Harry being smarter than his brother in terms of what he does - this exhibit will be seen by thousands who come to the flower show - giving a great impression of Harry and his charity in the public's mind. Harry looks more active than his brother. The impression made is what counts.
Plus it is nice to see him and his Dad working together. More positive images of Harry compared to Will. Even if Will worked as much or even more - Harry just does stuff that has more exposure and is more appealing.
Fair enough PR entitlement, just like last year, he will be photographed inauguration day, credits to the people who actually make the sentebale garden happen, from the architect to the men and women who get down and dirty.
Allegedly he plans, it may be his dad or the staff, he probably only nods a head movement of yes and no, and a two second signature.
Who is paying for the garden? Who pays for the plants and the people who actually do the work? Do Mr. Keightley and the workers donate their time? Does the money for it all come from W,K, & H's foundation, or is it funded by taxpayers?
What will Harry do, besides showing up when the Queen attends?
Maybe Harry could just do a youtube video of what he might like the garden to look like. It would save a lot of work and time. But then, no jobs for unskilled workers, hardly any money for charity. But videographer and editor would get paid. But the taxpayers might have to support more scroungers in the form of unemployed gardeners.
Aargh! Economics, thou art a heartless b***h!!
Quote from: Rebound on November 19, 2014, 12:16:24 AM
Maybe Harry could just do a youtube video of what he might like the garden to look like. It would save a lot of work and time. But then, no jobs for unskilled workers, hardly any money for charity. But videographer and editor would get paid. But the taxpayers might have to support more scroungers in the form of unemployed gardeners.
Aargh! Economics, thou art a heartless b***h!!
:notworthy: :goodpost:
Well, if Charles gives Balmoral to the UK, and if it costs 3million per year to operate, you may wish for a RF to take it back. And if you get a republic, you may end up with Sandringham and Windsor as well. The RF has a monetary effect on the country, both plus and minus.
I guess I didn't make my point very well. I was trying to say that the economic impact of the RF hasn't really been examined. Perhaps further study would show that they add more to the economy than people think. If the UK doesn't have a RF, there won't be a Harry's garden. That would have economic impact on the profits of the garden show and fewer gardeners would be employed. If Harry isn't a royal getting good PR for his charity or for the military, it has economic impact. It isn't just a matter of they cost taxpayers' money. They also generate money through charities, duchies, and good will. Yes, good will has an economic impact.
When a member of the RF visits a town, it generates money for the town. People come to see them and spend money on gas, flowers, signs, food, maybe lodging, maybe decide to visit historic places in town, or shop. Sometimes buildings are repaired, and the town spruces up. All that is a benefit to the area.
It isn't just a matter of being called a subject. I don't think the royals think of people that way, at least the younger royals don't.
The royals have a cost, and a benefit. That's the way I see it.
:goodpost: Rebound. I totally agree!
Snokitty, I thought republicans thought those studies were worthless because they show that the RF doesn't cost very much. That is in purely monetary terms.
The Sentebale chelsea flower show of this year was sponsored by the company B&Q, all proceeds were divided; 20 percent to Harry's charity Sentebale, 80 percent to the B&Q company.
Something for Harry's charity, rather than nothing. I personally think it was a bad negotiation. Perhaps no other company was interested in negotiating the partnership sponsorship, as they usually would absorb the costs of personnel, all the material, etc. so Sentebale had no other choice but to signed the contract. By February 2014 I recall reading Sentebale was in trouble about the display as sponsor wanted to back out, almost cancelled.
Ah, I didn't know about those real studies. I'd love to read them. I'm very interested in economic cost/benefit analysis and economic impact. Also interested in how benefits are measured, since benefits include more than monetary benefits. Can you direct me to that/those study/studies?
Quote from: wannable on November 19, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
The Sentebale chelsea flower show of this year was sponsored by the company B&Q, all proceeds were divided; 20 percent to Harry's charity Sentebale, 80 percent to the B&Q company.
Something for Harry's charity, rather than nothing. I personally think it was a bad negotiation. Perhaps no other company was interested in negotiating the partnership sponsorship, as they usually would absorb the costs of personnel, all the material, etc. so Sentebale had no other choice but to signed the contract. By February 2014 I recall reading Sentebale was in trouble about the display as sponsor wanted to back out, almost cancelled.
80% of the profits to the sponsor?! How does the show distribute the profits, I wonder. Does each garden get a piece of the charge to visitors? 20% of the profit of their portion of the gate for Sentebale. That is a bad deal. Doesn't sound like something Charles would get involved with. Well, at least the company is sponsoring the material and workers. And, if the UK tax laws are similar to the US, would probably deduct the probable loss. Lots of probabilities!
Each flower, plant on display have a price. The contact B&Q for total show sale, 20 percent was for Sentebale. In the UK companies donating, sponsoring, partnership involving money cost for charity are tax exempt. There are countries that include tax exemption to other items other than charity, example donating, sponsoring sport individual, a team, a field practice.
Quote from: Rebound on November 19, 2014, 04:23:24 AM
Well, if Charles gives Balmoral to the UK, and if it costs 3million per year to operate, you may wish for a RF to take it back. And if you get a republic, you may end up with Sandringham and Windsor as well. The RF has a monetary effect on the country, both plus and minus.
I guess I didn't make my point very well. I was trying to say that the economic impact of the RF hasn't really been examined. Perhaps further study would show that they add more to the economy than people think. If the UK doesn't have a RF, there won't be a Harry's garden. That would have economic impact on the profits of the garden show and fewer gardeners would be employed. If Harry isn't a royal getting good PR for his charity or for the military, it has economic impact. It isn't just a matter of they cost taxpayers' money. They also generate money through charities, duchies, and good will. Yes, good will has an economic impact.
When a member of the RF visits a town, it generates money for the town. People come to see them and spend money on gas, flowers, signs, food, maybe lodging, maybe decide to visit historic places in town, or shop. Sometimes buildings are repaired, and the town spruces up. All that is a benefit to the area.
It isn't just a matter of being called a subject. I don't think the royals think of people that way, at least the younger royals don't.
The royals have a cost, and a benefit. That's the way I see it.
:goodpost: :xmas1
@Rebound
This is so interesting, wannabe. Thank you. I had no idea about the complex nature of flower shows! Sorry for my total ignorance about this. Are the plants and flowers for sale to the public? Can someone buy an entire garden for themselves, or do the gardens go to the sponsor of the garden? That would make the selection of plants so much more difficult for a Sentebale garden because the garden is intended to be used, not just displayed.
I guess I have no idea how Lesotho's climate compares to GB. It must get cold there--I remember Harry and Will wearing cloaks and giving mittens to kids. Maybe it is a lot more dry?
^ F1 race is this Sunday, tomorrow is just practice, Saturday likewise.
QuoteEXCLUSIVE: Setting up charity to help African children was an 'emotional roller coaster' says Prince Harry
Prince Harry vowed to help the troubled children in Lesotho
Set up charity Sentebale to aid victims of extreme poverty
At the start, he and team were 'pretending we knew what we were doing'
In 2008 the charity almost went bust, despite raising millions
But now they have learned from their mistakes
Read more: Prince Harry reveals setting up Sentebale was 'emotional roller coaster' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2842942/Prince-Harry-reveals-setting-charity-help-African-children-emotional-roller-coaster.html#ixzz3JemIksGE)
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Harry interviewed. I hate saying I told you so, but viola, numbers and decisions, a couple of months ago I was bashed for saying Harry has made wrong costly decisions, including both north and south walks.
Not sure where this belongs but I found the Sentebale annual reports via another board. Looks like it isn't doing bad after all.
http://sentebale.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Sentebale-Annual-Report-Accounts-2012131.pdf
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I have arthritis too
@Rebound :hug:
Quote from: wannable on November 21, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
^ F1 race is this Sunday, tomorrow is just practice, Saturday likewise.
QuoteEXCLUSIVE: Setting up charity to help African children was an 'emotional roller coaster' says Prince Harry
Prince Harry vowed to help the troubled children in Lesotho
Set up charity Sentebale to aid victims of extreme poverty
At the start, he and team were 'pretending we knew what we were doing'
In 2008 the charity almost went bust, despite raising millions
But now they have learned from their mistakes
Read more: Prince Harry reveals setting up Sentebale was 'emotional roller coaster' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2842942/Prince-Harry-reveals-setting-charity-help-African-children-emotional-roller-coaster.html#ixzz3JemIksGE)
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Harry interviewed. I hate saying I told you so, but viola, numbers and decisions, a couple of months ago I was bashed for saying Harry has made wrong costly decisions, including both north and south walks.
There is nothing here to indicate the north and south walks were wrong decisions, it appears to be your opinion. There is nothing to say that Harry PERSONALLY made the wrong decisions either.
Yes it is, he will say it in a few years, heart in sleeve interview. I've said it before financial numbers does all the talking.
Quote from: wannable on November 21, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
^ F1 race is this Sunday, tomorrow is just practice, Saturday likewise.
QuoteEXCLUSIVE: Setting up charity to help African children was an 'emotional roller coaster' says Prince Harry
Prince Harry vowed to help the troubled children in Lesotho
Set up charity Sentebale to aid victims of extreme poverty
At the start, he and team were 'pretending we knew what we were doing'
In 2008 the charity almost went bust, despite raising millions
But now they have learned from their mistakes
Read more: Prince Harry reveals setting up Sentebale was 'emotional roller coaster' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2842942/Prince-Harry-reveals-setting-charity-help-African-children-emotional-roller-coaster.html#ixzz3JemIksGE)
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Harry interviewed. I hate saying I told you so, but viola, numbers and decisions, a couple of months ago I was bashed for saying Harry has made wrong costly decisions, including both north and south walks.
Thank you for sharing the link wannable. IMHO I have more respect for him for admitting there were errors in the charity set-up and that they were dangerously close to "going bust."
Exactly, and agreed! Rather than leaving it to the trustees to explain numbers.
Back to the this trip, this Sentebale polo charity match is great because all in all fully sponsored, so the net profit is a financial hit. It's when the costs are met with what was earned, substract the costs and oh no, that's where the problem arises. Financial numbers are an easy reading to me.
Quote from: wannable on November 21, 2014, 12:41:32 AM
Yes it is, he will say it in a few years, heart in sleeve interview. I've said it before financial numbers does all the talking.
The numbers prove what he said, not your opinion that he is solely responsible for that. Your statements that he is solely responsible for that and that his south and north pole treks were a costly mistake are either unfounded or your judgement/opinion.
Harry certainly isn't solely responsible for Sentebale's early troubles. We all learn from our mistakes, costly and otherwise, including Harry, as he's admitted.
Mostly yes, he has great ideas, some of what I've mentioned in the past not financially sound, hence the bad result. He sounds grown up in this interview, perhaps he will take a No when an adventure cost may be too risky. Invictus , like what I said of walking with the wounded activities he has brainchild could possibly fall in default. No numbers published, but I predict if repeated, government budget will take in the cost via military branch, ouch situation being carefully thought.
Quote from: wannable on November 21, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
I hate saying I told you so, but viola, numbers and decisions, a couple of months ago I was bashed for saying Harry has made wrong costly decisions, including both north and south walks.
I was referring to this post
@Curryong No one has said or implied that Harry doesn't make mistakes, have they? And, again I ask
@wannable why were the north and south walks costly mistakes for Harry? I have never heard that before.
Other countries offered to host it in the coming years, so it can't be as bad as painful economically as you predict
@wannable
I just posted the financial numbers for Sentebale and it was placed in the proper thread. The numbers clearly show the organization is doing well. It did have hiccups in the past but that was common knowledge. No where did anyone posts numbers for treks but merely expressed an opinion and slammed the rest of us for not finding the phantom information. So if anyone finds the financials for the treks and show that they were a loss then please I'd like to read it as well. If not, then all of that discussion is only talk with nothing to back it up and nothing to gloat told you so about. :wink:
the problem for the charity was 1) they did not raise enough money - in their early years they were raising about 250,000 pounds a year compared to over 2 million now 2) they had very high administrative costs which supposedly have been reduced now - seems to me Harry thought hiring big guns to run the charity and paying them lots would assure success. I think he discovered he had to do more of the fundraising and he also got a new director.
So - early going errors - righted now. I really do not see how the Antarctic trips had anything to do with this - that was for WWTW and are about creating positive images of disabled vets - showing that disability is not a barrier to achieving - doing a job. Their intent is not fundraising per se and I think Harry's involvement was well worth the investment of time - the events got much more attention because of his involvement and it did his image good too.
Not to mention he looked great with that beard.
Invictus will always require other support - attendance can defray the cost but the US version has always gotten private corporate, foundation and Pentagon support - it simply - especially re: the training costs - is not going to be a money maker. But that is not it's intent. Without massive corporate support Paralympics is not supporting itself and Olympic teams also need a lot of fundraising. Again though - the purpose of Invictus justifies the effort to find financial backing for it. Wounded Warrior Games do not even try to make a profit - admission to all events is free whereas Invictus did try to make some money by charging for admission. It is apparent a great deal of time was invested in getting those Games going - but I suspect anyone watching would agree it was time well spent given the results that were looked for. And again - it certainly boosted Harry's reputation.
I do know that the walking with the wounded and Invictus are separate from Sentebale. I was generalizing in bad decision results of each, which I have mentioned in the past.
The walks awareness didn't bring returns, the little return of 100K, Pippa singlehandedly did better with her bike or snow walk trek, with little cost from the gross to net profit. Financial results is a point for WWTW to ponder, I am 100 percent sure they already did, as Mount Everest was cancelled not because of weather, fundraising to send the signed up wounded warriors was money collection short. When one wants to do a PR marketing tool investment to create awareness, there has to be returns at a certain point. With the unstable market and economies, returns are expected in 6 to 12 months. The idea is defeated, if returns for a big group of people walking is 100K.
As I said, no numbers for Invictus to date, it's a great awareness, a great idea, there hasn't been to date am official confirmation of who, what and where it will take place again.
QuoteSetting Up Charity to Help African Children Was an 'Emotional Roller Coaster' Says Prince Harry
Ten years ago Prince Harry went on gap year trip to the AIDS-ridden southern African kingdom of Lesotho and vowed to devote the rest of his life to help the troubled children he met there. Today he played in a $1million polo match in the Middle East to raise funds for the continuing work of the charity he helped set up following that life-changing visit.
Speaking after the match to Mail Online the fourth-in-line to the throne candidly admitted that the last decade had been an 'emotional roller coaster' but said that he was hugely proud of what they had achieved.
Harry confessed that when Sentebale had started off he and his team were 'pretending we knew what we were doing' and mistakes had been made.
Indeed in 2008 the charity almost went bust, despite raising millions from the proceeds of a television documentary and a star-studded Princess Diana memorial concert. There were repeated and damaging claims that too much money was being wasted in setting up the charity's African operation and too little being given to needy projects on the ground.
The prince told Mail Online: 'It started really really small....a very small group of us saying we're not going to use the funds for other people, it's going to be all for the kids and pretending we knew what we were doing.
'Ten years down the line we have made a couple of mistakes and in turn learned from our mistakes and now we know that actually, by speaking to the core problem, which in this case is the children themselves.... you get a really good taste of whether you're achieving it or not.
More: Prince Harry reveals setting up Sentebale was 'emotional roller coaster' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2842942/Prince-Harry-reveals-setting-charity-help-African-children-emotional-roller-coaster.html)
Cindy
Where are those numbers for the WWTW? Still waiting...
Pippa's book is for profit, those trips are funded on the front end to allow those service members funds to train and pay for their flights, etc to accomplish the feat. I should hope that a for profit venture pulls in more money than a not for profit.
Even if the numbers had been low, their expenses were covered by sponsors, the event was to create awareness and raise funds for the charity, why would Harry consider both treks a costly mistake
@wannable ?
Walking with the wounded financials 2011
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends58/0001133558_ac_20111231_e_c.pdf
Walking with the wounded financials 2010
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends58/0001133558_ac_20101231_e_c.pdf
Walking with the wounded financials 2012
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends58/0001133558_AC_20121231_E_C.pdf
WWTW 2014 Cumbrian challenge
http://walkingwiththewounded.org.uk/support-the-walk/wwtw-events/cumbrianchallenge2014/
None of these financials show any financial trouble so those statements are just opinion and not based in fact.
Harry gave a speech while collecting an award saying it WAS due to weather not funds. They actually managed to get there so they had plenty of funds to get them there. It was just too dangerous. Here is a snippet of the documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgLT4VASPzY
Prince Harry Sentebale Call to action - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsU2FtG1O8w)//
at 1 am Harry will share a secret - to demonstrate that kids with HIV should not "feel shame"
How does this help those kids ? Do the kids there receive a donation ?
How many of them have laptops, phones and ipads to go through this website and see how many supporters they have, isn't it better to hold a workshop or something more beneficial for the kids ?
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Sentebale Appeal is fundraising for Sentebale (https://www.justgiving.com/feelnoshame/)
Emphasis should be put on raising money.
About 5% of Lethoso's population has internet access. Based on my knowledge of current trends in net access, I strongly suspect almost all of that will be via smartphones.
Prince Harry set to reveal secret as part of World Aids Day | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2855555/What-secret-Harry-reveal-Prince-set-reveal-personal-charity-campaign-reduce-stigma-HIV.html)
What do you think this could be?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-prince-harrys-secret-royal-4725238
So much buildup for that? :hmm:
Well, we did find out that Joss Stone once peed herself, so if they ever *do* get together, there'll be something for people on the more virulent anti-anyone-dating-Harry tumblrs to get incensed about.
I wasn't expecting much, so I'm not disappointed. He wasn't going to share anything that was really secret. I doubt anybody will share anything shocking or revealing, and it's kind of a strange campaign. Kids in Lesotho have something that is considered really shameful in their culture--AIDS. A guy who is nervous about speaking in public won't impress them.
I suppose the purpose is to bring attention and money to Sentebale.
I think if William or Kate had said something so boring and run-of-the-mill, they would have been skewered.
^Actually, William did do this, and I've seen more chatter about #FeelNoShame than #WhoseSideAreYouOn.
I'm going to start a timer: how many posts does it take before Will and Kate are brought into a Harry thread (in an effort to make Harry look bad or Will and Kate look good)?
I, for one, think this was a lovely idea on World Aids Day.
Yah, boring secret.
It's an O.K campaign. There are things he could have done to make this a more successful campaign, like having a twitter account of his own, using it to tweet #feelnoshame and the link Sentebale Appeal is fundraising for Sentebale (https://www.justgiving.com/feelnoshame/) to the donation page, having it circulate that way would have reached more people than just a video message.
A better secret perhaps, lol ? :hehe:
They did manage to raise £231, hope the amount keeps going up.
^You have a better understanding of IT networking, Harry contact Tiara. :xmas15:
On a similar note, I really liked when he played a game with the HIV Lesotho kids of who do you want to be. More insightful of Harry's inner secret thoughts; live in Africa, photographer and surfer. It made the papers worldwide, same time a pic of him with the kids at the Lesotho centre, Sentebale named.
For a second I thought that it was going to be a much bigger secret. Hardly worth calling it a secret if it's something disappointing like that!
Harry and I share something in common then, I'm a hopeless public speaker. You can visibly see the page shake when I perform speeches (which thankfully hasn't been very often), though Harry is probably much better at me than public speaking. Anyone is better than me at public speaking. :wink:
Awww, I knew it was something related to his charity. But that still didn't stop me from hoping for something juicy.
I was hoping along the line of 'Prince Harry to hold a ball at his castle to find his princess and all the maidens in the land are invited!!' :Jen: :Jen:
Explanation: I had my nieces for the weekend and we watched Disney cartoon back-to-back :vday2: :vday2: :vday2:
^LOL v_voom With 5 granddaughters, I think I've seen every Disney, Barbie, Sophia, My Little Pony, H2O episode, etc. etc. at least 10 times each. "Did you see Rainbow Dash's face, Nana? Rewind it, rewind it!" Sigh.
Lady Adams, it is axiomatic that W&K will always appear on Harry threads, and vice versa. They are inextricably bound forever. (See, I know a few big words :hug: :xmas17:)
^ 5 granddaughters??? Wow! Your life must be full of laughters and princesses dress up every weekend! :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower:
Video: Watch: Celebrities reveal secrets for Prince Harry's HIV charity on World Aids Day - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-harry/11264590/Watch-Celebrities-reveal-secrets-for-Prince-Harrys-HIV-charity-on-World-Aids-Day.html)
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@snokitty I agree 100% with the writer. :xmas10:
Well, he'll be packing soon to be a wildcat Lynx retraining soonish as in January, max March 2015. Although his colleagues will be one year ahead of him.
The article is a polite slap in the face, matter of fact, none of the shames I've read should be compared with aids, hiv. Not a chance of dying.
Not everyone has a sexually transmitted disease, a deep dark secret or has robbed a bank. What is personal to one person may not be to another, but, IMO, he fell short and diluted the message.
For what it's worth, he did something rather than nothing.
Fact from WHO, 35 million infected with HIV/AIDS worldwide.
Wish Harry and staff a safe trip to Lesotho.
Harry at the Maliba Lodge, it's the only 5 star hotel in Lesotho.
At work with Prince Seeiso
Maliba Lodge (@MalibaLodge) on Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/malibalodge)
^^^Gorgeous location! I can see why it earned a 5 star rating. Harry is a lucky man to be staying in such a beautiful place. Looks like the photographer caught Harry at the right moment as the hotel photo is odd with him looking down.
Yes trip advisors recommends it and its sister lodge by the river, great holiday destination. The virtual tour of the siight is very helpful, simple comfy looking place. Love horseback riding.
Double post auto-merged: December 08, 2014, 11:11:43 PM
Another pic of Harry at work
Instagram (http://i.instagram.com/p/wWoaWGnXjz/)
Prince Harry Looks Dapper at Sentebale Christmas Carol Service | Prince Harry : Just Jared (http://www.justjared.com/2014/12/12/prince-harry-looks-dapper-at-sentebale-christmas-carol-service/)
Thanjs
@wannable &
@snokitty for the pictures.
Quote from: wannable on December 12, 2014, 11:11:56 AM
Prince Harry Looks Dapper at Sentebale Christmas Carol Service | Prince Harry : Just Jared (http://www.justjared.com/2014/12/12/prince-harry-looks-dapper-at-sentebale-christmas-carol-service/)
Dapper... Not quite, he really needs a fitted suit or two... :Jen:
Excellent progress being made on the children's center.
Apparently Harry has not been in Lesotho. From Rebecca English:
Quote@Nal74861325 apologies for late reply. No, Prince Harry hasn't been in Lesotho, I am told.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/575566077385666560)
The only place I saw the claim he was there was from that HWalesWire twitter, and she wouldn't say why she thought it was true. From pictures on the group's Facebook page, it looks like a friend of his was at Sentebale, but no Harry with him.
Which should confirm Harry's appearance at the Afghanistan service.
he visited a barracks in Colchester on the 11th -
Instagram (https://instagram.com/p/0F4Iq2D7-P/)//
Thanks
@cate1949. BTW anyone notice the woman in the background looks very similar to Harry's aunt Sophie? :D
The landscape architects were able to substitute some plants that would survive in an English summer to fill in for the native Lesotho plants. It was a lovely display for the flower show.
^I can see why it won People's Choice. It looked like a lovely, peaceful space and I would love to sit in one of those porch chairs and just watch the garden. The only other one I liked was the perfumer's garden--the concept was very similar.
Congrats to Matt Keightley--beautiful garden.
Sentebale's annual financial report
http://sentebale.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/SB-Report-and-Accounts-13_14_TO-FILE.pdf
I think this is absolutely fantastic, and long may it continue.
Some more money for Sentebale. Excellent!
Quote from: snokitty on June 02, 2015, 03:02:27 AM
@Sentebale @Sentebale
QuoteOur school bursary programme supports students in education including providing school fees, uniforms & equipment Sentebale | School Bursaries (http://bit.ly/1crURKW)
6 students in our bursary programme achieved such high grades this year they automatically qualify for a university place - congratulations!
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Lesotho's Bureau of Statistics estimates that approximately two thirds of schoolchildren don't complete their secondary education. There are many reasons for this, such as children staying at home to look after ill parents or siblings; families being unable to afford school uniforms and materials, and children living in remote areas being far from the nearest school.
To address these challenges, Sentebale provides bursaries within the community grant programme. These cover the costs of school fees, uniforms, nutritional support and education materials. This not only ensures many children continue their education, it also means they receive a hot meal (often the only food they have all day) and protection in a safe place to learn.
Addressing real issues that impact these students' lives is the right way to help ensure that they can continue their schooling.
I think it's great that the Centre at Sentable incorporates the name of Diana in its dining hall, but also that the Welcome Centre there bears the name of Olga, Harry's old nanny.
Olga was an important part of the young Princes' lives during the years when the Wales's marriage was in free fall. I was glad to see William made sure he attended her funeral. Harry was unable to do that as he was serving in Afghanistan. She must have been in his thoughts though as he was in hers to the last. Shortly before Olga died she wrote to him, worrying about his safety.
^ That's what riding on strange polo ponies will do for you!
^ I've got a feeling that this young girl's life was publicised by another tab a couple of years ago at a time there was a bit of trouble with the administration of the Sentebale charity. I can't remember what the Sentebale people said at the time in mitigation of their seeming neglect of her. Harry would be extremely upset about it, I'm sure.
I have to wonder if these scenarios were considered at the launch of Sentebale? The realities of keeping track of patients, providing distribution of much needed supplies and access to healthcare professionals are difficult in a mountainous region where remote villages are the norm.
One of few person in harry's circle I really like , and often like the other good people around him not treat well
Happy birthday Seeiso
Prince Harry to Host Coldplay at Kensington Palace - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/prince-harry-host-coldplay-kensington-palace/story?id=39375184)
Harry is on a roll!!!!! :notworthy:
Very nice :-)
It nice to see harry do what he does best,he reminds me of his mother with all the charity work.I think he truly puts his all in to his charities.I saw that peter and autumn where their, it looked like jecca Craig was standing behind them in the picture.
Court Circular
7th December, 2016
Prince Henry of Wales, Patron, Sentebale, this morning attended the Charity Day at Icap plc, 2 Broadgate, London EC2.
His Royal Highness later received Mr. Peter Fearnhead (Chief Executive Officer, African Parks) at Kensington Palace.
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That reminds of the young boy who was just an infant in Lesotho, when harry was 19. According to him, wrote 8 letters throughout the years and has never heard back from harry.
SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE: Prince Harry's charity makes £4.4m | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4539810/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Prince-Harry-s-charity-makes-4-4m.html)
Congratulations to Sentebale on this extraordinary accomplishment!
What a wonderful result, and well done indeed to the organisers and workers of this charity. Harry must be over the moon with those figures. He enjoys those polo matches which bring in some quite large donations as well.
Kensington Palace @KensingtonRoyal 19h19 hours ago
Prince Harry will visit the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine on Monday 10th July.
Kensington Palace @KensingtonRoyal 19h19 hours ago
HRH will hear more about the School's global efforts to tackle HIV and will attend an HIV-focussed roundtable discussion led by @Sentebale.
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I'm glad to see that Harry is back and going to keep himself busy, especially with his commitment to the fight against HIV. He sees the tragic results of this infection every time he stays at Lesotho. So many orphans, and AIDS still ravages so many parts of Africa.
Court Circular 6th November:
Prince Henry of Wales, Patron, Sentebale, this evening held a Dinner at Kensington Palace.
Prince Harry joins England rugby fans to remember the fallen (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/11/prince-harry-joins-england-rugby-fans-remember-fallen/)
Don't know why this is in a Sentebale thread :lol: but yes, Harry attended a rugby match of which he is patron, to some criticism, on a day which actually commemorates the almost one million British and Empire war dead of 1914-18
. However he didn't get as much criticism as William who hasn't done anything for the Remembrance commemorations yet and didn't attend the concert either (Harry did at least turn up to a poppy ceremony outside Westminster Abbey yesterday.)
Nor as much as Kate, whom the Express complained looked glum at the British Legion concert. And Harry did meet with volunteers from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission who help care for the war graves and keep records accurate. An absolutely vital job.
Ahh!!! I meant to post it in the engagement thread. 😞
Sorry
@Curryong .
Yesterday, no news if Prince Harry went.
QuoteJoin Sentebale for the 2017 Christmas Carol Concert!
Join Sentebale for a Christmas Carol Concert at 7pm on Monday 11th December, in the stunning surroundings of St Mary Abbots Church on Kensington Church Street
Join us for an evening of festive fun to celebrate and raise awareness of Sentebale?s work with children affected by HIV in southern Africa.
The programme will include an array of ever popular Christmas carols, together with performances from soprano Laura Wright, one of the biggest selling classical artists of this decade, and the St Mary Abbots Primary School choir.
Olivia Grant, star of hit Channel 4 drama series Indian Summers, will be one of our readers at this special event.
Immediately after the concert, guests are invited to join Sentebale for seasonal refreshments.
We hope you can join us for a magical and memorable evening to mark the festive season.
All proceeds from the 2017 Sentebale Christmas Carol Concert will support our programmes of education and care for children and young people affected by HIV in southern Africa.
Sentebale?s Saturday clubs now reach over 3,700 children and young people living with HIV with the tools and knowledge they need to manage the virus and live a full, happy, healthy life. At the same time, our residential camps enable those young people who continue to struggle with their HIV-positive status to receive intensive support in a safe, secure environment, whilst making friends with peers facing similar challenges.
Fundraising initiatives like the Carol Concert enable Sentebale to continue the delivery of this vital work, and give even more children affected by HIV the bright future they deserve.
The Sentebale 2017 Carol Concert is generously supported by Mandarin Oriental Hotel Group, Camp Kerala and Moyses Stevens.
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Sentebale Chairman Johnny Hornby will be live on the @BBCWorld channel at 14:00 GMT today. He will discuss Sentebale co-founder The Duke of Sussex' commitment to the charity's work with children and young people to change the tide of the #HIV/AIDS in Southern Africa. Tune in!
I don't think they are dropping Harry.
Quote from: sandy on January 14, 2020, 06:59:11 PM
I don't think they are dropping Harry.
Is Harry dropping them? How will he fit in all this with his money making?
This was Harry's pet project since he was a teenager. I doubt he's giving this up.
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Quote@Sentebale chairman Johnny Hornby says despite the situation being "difficult", he has Prince Harry's "wholehearted commitment" to the charity going forward.
Hornby also credited Meghan for supporting the charity too.
Quote from: TLLK on January 15, 2020, 02:30:41 AM
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That's good to hear!
I dotn think Harry realises how much work he and Meg wil have to do, to achieve financial independence. (Unless they are just going to live off Charle for the rest of their lives). to get the money for private security, donating to charity etc flying around is going to be a hard job..and they may have to cut back on the sort of engagements that were part of tehir lives as royals.
I think they thought it out and have advisers.
They will still be doing royal duties.
Quote from: sandy on January 15, 2020, 02:12:11 PM
I think they thought it out and have advisers.
They will still be doing royal duties.
I think it is quite obvious they don't have advisers and they hadn't thought it out, hence the big talks at Sandringham. And it may not be that easy to fit in royal duties with making money...
They do not have to release who they are working with. I don't have any doubts they have advisers. . If they are going to earn their own money or some of it without the royals they would have to go outside BP to talk to business and financial advisers.
All the Sentebale donors are British nationals, the biggest donor is Elton John. IF the rest of the Brit donors feel dubious after the we quit shenanigans, untrustworthy royals who will not be Working Royals, Harry must seek donors from other countries.
Quote from: sandy on January 15, 2020, 02:23:51 PM
They do not have to release who they are working with. I don't have any doubts they have advisers. . If they are going to earn their own money or some of it without the royals they would have to go outside BP to talk to business and financial advisers.
Sandy if they have advisers, why did they make such a mess of their decision, not telling the queen and forcing a set of talks that entailed Charles and William having to dash off to Sandrignham. If they have advisers they aren't very good.
No, it's not the advisers, it's the couple. The couple blank anyone who doesn't agree with any of their ideas, and seek new Yes Sir people.
Why would they pay advisers without speaking to them and listening to them?
Quote from: sandy on January 15, 2020, 02:28:41 PM
Why would they pay advisers without speaking to them and listening to them?
Because they do what they want....Ih hope the charity does not go downhill....
@amabel-Yes as
@sandy pointed out they do have advisers but I am concerned that they have chosen not to listen to their advice regarding two major decision in the last six months:1. They were advised to delay the announcement of their lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday which was made while the couple were still on a very successful tour. 2. Last week's they were advised to also delay the announcement that they were stepping back from senior royal status until they came to an agreement with the BRF, the British and Canadian governments regarding security, residency, housing, use of their titles, etc...
QuoteNo, it's not the advisers, it's the couple. The couple blank anyone who doesn't agree with any of their ideas, and seek new Yes Sir people.
Unfortunately based upon their recent decisions and subsequent actions, I have to agree with you.
I was talking Financial advisers for their future earning plans.
Well time will tell with this also, charities and their foundation, those who stay and those who are fired or quit. Get into these employees shoes, in the real world, when shat hits the fan in a company, a subordinate makes a scandal against the boss, surely all the employees will be nervous about their own future.
Andrew had the scandal. Harry didn't.
@sandy-
QuoteI was talking Financial advisers for their future earning plans.
Unfortunately based upon their recent actions, I am not sure that they will choose to listen to any financial adviser. As you must recall the couple had not consulted anyone in the BRF (Charles/QEII/British and Canadian government) to ensure that they would continue to receive funding from the Duchy of Cornwall-Charles, the continued use of Frogmore Cottage-QEII, security-British and Canadian taxpayers/governments. How would a financial adviser know how to begin unless these major expenses were guaranteed to be covered by the aforementioned parties? :shrug: If the answer was no to any that I mentioned, this would have a very large impact on their personal fortunes.
We still don't know the answers on security, Duchy funding and Frogmore Cottage use.
How can Prince Harry give a definitive answer on any of his own personal contributions to Sentebale if he doesn't know who is providing for his security, staff funding and UK residence? Will he be required to pay for his own travel expenses?
If they pay for a financial adviser they will listen.
Anyway the details are still being worked out.
@sandy-I am glad that you're feeling confident that they will because right now, their recent actions strongly suggest that are that they are not listening to their advisers.
I am just saying why pay an adviser if you don't make him or her work for the money. It's not confidence it is old fashioned practicality.
Quote from: sandy on January 15, 2020, 02:38:29 PM
Andrew had the scandal. Harry didn't.
Andrew has nothing to do with this. Sentabele is a charity that Harry set up and I hope he doesn't lose touch with it.. but he may find he hasn' got time for it
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@sandy-All of their advisers are paid for from the allotment provided to them via Sovereign's Grant/Duchy of Cornwall and based upon their recent actions it would appear that they still have chosen not to listen to them.
Quote from: sandy on January 15, 2020, 02:44:51 PM
I am just saying why pay an adviser if you don't make him or her work for the money. It's not confidence it is old fashioned practicality.
But they havent' listened to advisers up to now. They do what they want to, and then hope that everyone else will fall in with it. Harry has very little idea Im sure what is required to make a lot of money..
@amabel-Unfortunately based on the reviews of the couple's statement, reportedly the couple's figures were not adding up to the real cost especially in the area of security.
Quote from: TLLK on January 15, 2020, 02:52:41 PM
@amabel-Unfortunately based on the reviews of the couple's statement, reportedly the couple's figures were not adding up to the real cost especially in the area of security.
Frankly I doubt if Harry has the least idea about money. Meghan, I assumed wouldl be more aware of it.. but Im not quite sure. I think that to make the sort of money they will need they will have to commercialise which will make them unpopular in the UK.. and they'll have to commit to it.. and I feel that Harry may find that his UK charities and Sentabele suffer a bit because he can't give them the time. Charles may setp in and make up the loss of money but that's going to impact on his helpng other royals or his own charities. and it will look like he has to shell out, in order to stop them from beig too commercial.
And there lies the crux of the couple. All the Royal Rota have said in different periods of time developing the couple's troubles with family, friends, staff (everyone is toxic minus them), the latest was Dan the Man who was sitting on their bombshell since Dec. 28 2019, his BP source told him for a second article he did explaining how he was chosen break the news/exclusive
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JUST like with the very worst Hollywood celebrities, its clear there is only one major requirement when working for the Sussexes: The ability to say: Yes, Sir!
This is what you have to understand about Harry and Meghan, a close associate of the deeply troubled royal couple told me over the New Year break.
If you dare to raise any questions about whatever mad-capped plan or idea they have, youre immediately sidelined.
Theyll blank you and find someone else who will agree with whatever it is they want to do.
But, they quickly added: If it all goes spectacularly wrong, have no doubt that youll be the one blamed.
Now, however, there is finally no one else to blame.
The media has always derided the Sussexes.
Quote from: amabel on January 15, 2020, 09:06:45 AM
I dotn think Harry realises how much work he and Meg wil have to do, to achieve financial independence. (Unless they are just going to live off Charle for the rest of their lives). to get the money for private security, donating to charity etc flying around is going to be a hard job..and they may have to cut back on the sort of engagements that were part of tehir lives as royals.
Quote from: sandy on January 15, 2020, 02:38:29 PM
Andrew had the scandal. Harry didn't.
Andrew does not have anything to do with Senetable.
Andrew does not have anything to do with any charities, lol.
MegHen have advisors. They hired them. Their BP staff. MegHens agents/ lawyer. Seecthe daily mail.
I think MegHen want to keep some BRF causes.
Grenfell, Senteble, Invictus.
I assume they also want to be at celebrity galas such as The Lion King premiere which aided a cause for saving elephants .
Anything American celebrities like this, they want and the American celebrities want.
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QuotePrince Harry had a meeting with his patronage @Sentebale today.
One area of focus for the charity raising the funds to extend the programmes into Botswana.
That is an excellent idea. Harry uses part of the money raised each year by his polo matches to raise funds for Sentabale.
Yes it is and to carry on Sentebale's focus on AIDS/HIV education message in Botswana would be beneficial to the region.
A good idea is to make an independent count circular for both Harry and Meghan; 3 Meghan, 2 Harry, 1 Together.
Prince Harry's speech at the Sentebale event tonight in London.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOrQ9H4WoAAKO_L.jpg
Video of his speech tonight.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex on Instagram: ?at tonight?s dinner for supporters of Sentebale in London Video ? SussexRoyal? (https://www.instagram.com/p/B7hGUztJA0F/)
Sentebale has been his pet project since he was a teen. It's good to see he's continuing with it.
Quote from: wannable on January 18, 2020, 03:55:34 PM
A good idea is to make an independent count circular for both Harry and Meghan; 3 Meghan, 2 Harry, 1 Together.
That is not acceptable and would be not acceptable by MegHen. They are independent of TheBRF.
Their life, cause, etc. are independent of interference of TheBRF.
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Quote from: TLLK on January 19, 2020, 11:45:30 PM
Prince Harry's speech at the Sentebale event tonight in London.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOrQ9H4WoAAKO_L.jpg
Video of his speech tonight.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex on Instagram: ?at tonight?s dinner for supporters of Sentebale in London Video ? SussexRoyal? (https://www.instagram.com/p/B7hGUztJA0F/)
He is such a damn spoiled, whiny baby.
You got what you want now shut up.
I do understand why Harry selected the Sentebale event last night to give his speech, he probably feels very close to the membership and felt comfortable in their presence. I wish him well. :thumbsup:
In his farewell speech, could someone explain to me why Harry called The Queen or the Crown as the person who will always be his "Commander in Chief"? That is Donald Trump at the moment. Who wrote that? Does he know what country he is in?
Quote from: lk1957 on January 20, 2020, 07:50:18 PM
In his farewell speech, could someone explain to me why Harry called The Queen or the Crown as the person who will always be his "Commander in Chief"? That is Donald Trump at the moment. Who wrote that? Does he know what country he is in?
The Queen is the Head of the Armed Forces in Britain. That is why the British (and Australian, NZ and Canadian) navy and air forces have the prefix 'Royal' in front of them.
The army doesn't, but that is for historical reasons, and partly because for many centuries in Britain there was no standing army. Men were recruited and trained to fight in county militia regiments in the 17th, 18th and early 19th centuries and the centuries before that.
Nevertheless the Queen is Commander in Chief of the Army as well. Every recruit to the armed services, every new young officer fights in her name and recites an oath of loyalty to monarch and Crown when they begin their service to Queen and Country. They serve Elizabeth II and in her name as monarch. So Harry was quite correct in his reference.
Commander-in-chief of the British Armed Forces - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-chief_of_the_British_Armed_Forces)
@Curryong-Thank you for the information for the British, Australian, New Zealand and Canadian armed forces.
Quote from: Blue Clover on January 20, 2020, 02:41:52 PM
I do understand why Harry selected the Sentebale event last night to give his speech, he probably feels very close to the membership and felt comfortable in their presence. I wish him well. :thumbsup:
I, too, wish him well. I watched the speech and it seemed to me he was quite subdued. He said it wasn't what he wanted, but what he wanted was not possible. I guess he did not think ahead of time that what he proposed was impossible, and that surprises me. If it was just himself I think he would have stuck it out as he was brought up, managing his PTSD and depression and picking and choosing projects that had much to do with the military and children. I don't think he hid these issues from his family. But now his major issue was what was happening to his wife, which as we all know reminded him too much of what had happened to his mother. He has given up so much for Meghan now. We really don't know her very well, but we hope and think she is worthy of his sacrifices.
There is no record of whatever diagnoses Harry got from a professional so his exact medical conditions can only be speculated about. If Harry went to a professional, and the doctor gave him diagnoses those records are confidential.
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