Prince Harry gets over split from Chelsy Davy with lookalike Gemma

mousie_kins · October 10, 2010, 08:47:37 PM

You could make up a million stories about what has happened and in all likelihood they would all be wrong

We have also had a story today that Chelsy is moving on with Dan. So in my view they are both moving on.

The press have used 'sources' from both Harry and Chelsy's friends but I doubt any of their friends are talking

Chelsy is happy and moving on, Harry is happy and moving on and no one is talking.

So it would be nice if the posters who use every Harry and Chelsy thread as an excuse to bash Chelsy could move on too

pinkpearls · October 10, 2010, 08:50:44 PM

IMO, the Chelsy & Dan story is just to demonstrate that Chelsy was willing to give up Africa and make a future for herself in the UK, but Harry didn't want a future with her.

Hale · October 10, 2010, 10:17:07 PM

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/10/10/prince-harry-gets-over-split-from-chelsy-davy-with-lookalike-gemma-115875-22622261/

Finally, I'm beginning to believe there maybe a possibility that the break up stories are true. Dean Piper doesn't publish many stories about the Royals, but since I first came across him via the forums I've been following what he writes about the celeb/club circuit and I must say he appears to one of those few journos who endeavour to make an effort.

It was Dean Piper who Chelsy told that Harry had cheated on her last time they broke up. It was a direct quote. I wouldn't dismiss this story so easily as some would like. Still we just have to wait and see what transpires.

I only hope for the RF's sake that Chelsy signed a confidentiality agreement.

sandy · October 11, 2010, 12:18:45 AM

I don't think Chelsy would do a tell all even if she didn't sign a confidentiality agreement. I think she will always care for Harry and I think she's the type to move on. She would also have much ot lose if she did as perhaps her royal gf predecessors have come to realize.

I somehow don't think CHelsy will get involved or marry Dan. I think she'll take a few years down the road to marry--but as I said I can't predict the Harry-Chelsy relationship and I'm not ruling out they're trying again, maybe once more, but who knows?

And maybe Harry isn't ready to settle down with anyone either--if he can't be faithful no way should he think about getting married at least in hte not so distant future.

sandy · October 11, 2010, 12:29:08 AM

Quote from: pinkpearls on October 10, 2010, 08:10:47 PM
Sure, they could still be fond of each other... or Chelsy could be a woman scorned and she could be behind the negative comments about Harry. I think the key is that Chelsy wanted marriage, whereas Harry wanted to
keep having fun. Now, Harry has found himself enjoying the company of several women... maybe Chelsy is behind the negative comments because she is hurt that she was so easily replaced?

I would not say Harry's flings are "replacements" for CHelsy. She and Harry were not a fleeting relationship--it lasted for 6 years. How could it actually be said that Harry has a new GF on the same plateau as Chelsy if they were apparently just 'pick ups' and he was not seen with these alleged lady friends on any serious dates nor did they get to be introduced to his family like Chelsy was. I think it premature to say that CHelsy was "replaced" and I don't think human relattionships are like chess piees and "interchangeable". ALl relationships are unique.

ANd if Harry enjoyed the compay of "several women" and prefers this he could have had any woman or women he wanted in quantity but he chose to have a steady relationship with Miss Davy.

Why must Chelsy be a "woman scorned" and again a break up is not a competitive sport. I think both were sad since they were together so long and I sympathize with both of them. Harry might pick up the phone and want to call her and vice versa but then feels said since they are now apparently apart. I feel sorry for them and I'm not ready to make one of them a sort of scapegoat. It's a sad thing for a young man and young woman and I sympathize.

I also don't think CHelsy wanted marriage nor did Harry want marriage now. They met when they were young and apparently broke up and they are still young. I don't think either were ready to get married.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 12:31:37 AM

It's not fair to say Harry is incapable of being faithful to anyone, just because he wasn't faithful to Chelsy. Harry & Gemma are reportedly enjoying a "no strings" relationship. I have a feeling whomever he becomes serious with, he'll have gotten the cheating ways out of his system.

He tried to break up with Chelsy once, and she didn't want to be disregarded as a fling. He treated her as gentlemanly as he could, while enjoying his bachelorhood.

It seems like Chelsy expected more from Harry than he could offer her.

Quote from: sandy on October 11, 2010, 12:29:08 AM
I also don't think CHelsy wanted marriage nor did Harry want marriage now. They met when they were young and apparently broke up and they are still young. I don't think either were ready to get married.

Reportedly, Chelsy wanted commitment and Harry wouldn't give it to her... sooooo.. looks like Harry DIDN'T want to marry her.

IMO, Chelsy was never the "marrying kind" for Harry, but he had fun with her. Hope she enjoyed the ride!

sandy · October 11, 2010, 12:36:10 AM

I don't think it known whether or not a "relationship": is going on with Gemma. It's all tab gossip at this stage, whether they will or will not embark on a relatioship remains to be seen. If they do, and she looks like his ex I have a feeling it will be very brief and she will be a rebound.

I don't think it can be decidedly known who broke up with whom and if Harry "tried to break up with her or not." The couple knows and I doubt they will ever blab to the media about intimate, personal details.

Nobody also knows what Chelsy "expected" from him.

Chelsy should not be scapegoated-- It takes two to make a relationship and both of them are human beings and I don't see Harry as the "perfect" one by any means. They were a couple in a relationship, they did not tell anyone their relationship details. And I'm not buying inot hearsay gossip. And she may not necessarily have been this desperate woman who wanted a ring. Not all women are helpless beings --women can be the ones who do the dumping as well. If CHelsy were so desperate she would have stayed in he UK and not gone home ot her family.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 12:37:56 AM

Chelsy has confided in Dean Piper before, so there is difficult to doubt his exclusive... Chelsy wanted commitment and Harry wouldn't give it to her.

Nothing wrong with that! They just weren't meant to be!

sandy · October 11, 2010, 12:41:41 AM

Again, it's hearsay. Nobody knows what Chelsy wants or wanted. I don't reall seeing her directly giving "her side" of the story to any magazine where it is definitively known that SHE said it. Until then it's all hearsay and projections of how people want to view her--in some cases she is always the 'bad guy' As I said it tkes two to make a relationship.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 12:45:29 AM

Yes, it takes 2 for a "relationship" and according to Dean Piper, Harry didn't want to do his part. It seems like Harry enjoyed having a party girlfriend with a voluptuous figure on his arm at clubs and events, and since Chelsy wanted to be "really, really famous," she was happy to go along for the ride. They enjoyed vacations & drunken nights, but a relationship needs more than that.. Harry, to his credit, was honest with Chelsy that he didn't intend to marry her, so Chelsy broke up with him.

About Gemma... looks like she graduated law school & then began practicing... hmm.. that's quite a work ethic!

sandy · October 11, 2010, 12:54:23 AM

Chelsy met his father, was at his side at royal events including the Diana concert. He was with her for 6 years. He could have gotten someone more volumptuous and more glamorous but he chose her to be his GF and accompany him to important events i his life.

How can it be positively known that Harry "told her" he didn't intend to marry her. Unless they were taped how can this possibly be known or stated as a "fact." Maybe she didn't want to marry him. Why are men like these perfet people and women made to look like desperate people who desperately want marriage. It's the 21st century and woman generally have some gumption and women should be credited with not being always "at fault" in a breakup

It is not a contest nor a sporting event--it's an alleged breakup yet one is instantly scapegoated and Harry must have been the one to do the kicking to the curb
.
I think Gemma is too old for him and will go the way of nats and Caro two gir
ls who were raved about last year and these "relationships" came to nothing.

I think it unfair to minimize or scorn a relatioship or ascribe motives which probably have no basis in fact (as far as I'm concerned) when truly only the couple know about it. And why would CHelsy be demonzed by saying she wanted to be famous? THere are many actresses and models who said the same thing and married prominent men but are praised for this. And how is it known Chelsy actually said this.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 12:57:48 AM

Well, some could say that Chelsy was a convenient date who made herself available to escort Harry when needed.

At least Harry didn't pull a "bait and switch" and keep her hanging around.

sandy · October 11, 2010, 01:00:16 AM

Who are the "some people" I imagine the "some people" don't care much for her in the first place to make such contentions.

Harry had his choice of "convenient dates" if he picked up the phone and could get a supermodel or actress to go out with him. But he chose Chelsy.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 01:02:28 AM

Maybe Chelsy was the only girl willing to be consistently cheated on?

Back to GEMMA!

Sadly, I suspect we won't see many pictures of her. She seems to be a woman of discretion & class. There weren't even any pics of them leaving Mahiki's last night :(

sandy · October 11, 2010, 01:06:26 AM

Oh I think a supermodel or actress would have LOVED to be Harry's escort had he given them the chance.

Gemma is just the subject of gossip. If anything she'll be a transitional and will be history relatively soon. I think Harry will not be in a hurry and know that he needs to date a few people before ruishing into a relationship. He was in one for 6 years.

Maybe there were not pics because they ddn't leave together and she bores Harry.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 01:09:30 AM

Maybe she bores Harry, or maybe she is a discreet woman?

Since she deleted her facebook account, I would suspect that she isn't interested in Harry to just become famous. In fact, her deleted FB account suggests that she doesn't like the attention... as opposed to being a girl who flaunts it.

sandy · October 11, 2010, 01:13:13 AM

SO if a woman is "discreet" she can't be seen publicly with the man she's dating?

Maybe Gemma has an agenda wth Harry annd isn't an innocent. I don't think she'd want to be his rebound relationship though. Being a rebound isn't fun.

FB is used for different things. Is the motive for FB really to "get attention>" If so I know a lot of people who like attention (they sure don't act like iti though). People in their eighties and nineties have FB accounts and I don't see them as seeking the spotlight, just keeping in touch with the grandkids and such.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 01:15:16 AM

Maybe Gemma is a woman who enjoys a party, but isn't an exhibitionist & needn't broadcast her private life... or become famous for who she is dating.

sandy · October 11, 2010, 01:19:40 AM

I never saw Chelsy as an "exhbitionist" nor did she "broadcast" anything. It's still hearsay from so called "friends". And anyone dating a prince is in the spotlight--so how is it known that Gemma doesn't want the spotlight, she's a blank slate as far as I'm concerned... IF that's all Chelsy really wanted out of Harry, it would have been. been over after a few weeks. I think Harry should be credited with being discerning. And a 6 year relationship is nothing to sneeze at.

And so Gemma wouldn't be "famous" if she dated Harry. She would surely get her name mentioned. And if she were so not into "being famousz" why would she want to date Harry? She would be "famous" if she were seen wth him after all.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 01:26:36 AM

Gemma deleted her FB account within HOURS of the news report... instead of being an exhibitionist & using FB as her own personal PR tool, she has chosen to be discreet.

Plus, it looks as though she went from law school straight into a career -- nice! No gap years for her! Great to see Harry with someone who has more to offer than just a party girl, uni lifestyle.

sandy · October 11, 2010, 01:29:59 AM

Well nobody heard of Gemma before this article mentioned her. ANd removing the FB account certainly didn't stop the press from gossiping about her nor her being a subject on some royal boards. Nobody knows why she removed FB.

And is Harry "with" this person? Or is she a "pickup? Did he talk to her at some club and is everyone he talks to "with him?" So far there are no pics of them on real dates. And yes, there would be.

Gemma was in a night club? So how is it known she's "not" a "party girl?" What was she doing at the club if she didn't like "night life?" And again, the girl is an unknown and I nobody knows about her habits, loifestyle, etc.

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 01:32:57 AM

Maybe Harry has learned how to be discreet... and if Gemma is discreet, she would take precautions to AVOID being papped together.

She's a pretty girl ... older than Chelsy, but she has clearly aged MUCH better!

mousie_kins · October 11, 2010, 01:34:32 AM

The only reason we had FB pics of Chelsy is because people hacked into her and her friends accounts.

Chelsy when on a modelling shoot said she wanted to be famous - a famous model not a GF to a Prince.

Chelsy at the beginning would not even say they were dating

Chelsy has been said in many articles not to want marriage or to be a Princess

Gemma is just a name linked at the moment just like many others. We do not know anything about her or any relationship

pinkpearls · October 11, 2010, 01:36:45 AM

So far, Gemma has taken steps to AVOID publicity.

Chelsy has relished in it.

Gemma's a lady... who actually practices law. TEAM GEMMA!

sandy · October 11, 2010, 01:37:48 AM

Harry discreet? ! He was pictured coming out of the club a few days ago and his escapades reported.

I don't see how Gemma "aged better" than Chelsy. I think Harry needs a younger woman not an older one.

Nobody knows a thing about her. Perhaps Gemma knows there is nothing to report about the "relationship" with Harry and is not in any pics with him to begin with. I think it way too soon to project this woman as any serious contender for Harry. I think he is in no hurry to get married and she would have a looong wait if she even GETS to go on real dates with him.

Why Team Gema? She I think would be a rebound if anythng. Why not wait until there is somethjing more tangible. I don't think Gemma is any serious contender any more than Nats or Caro. Why rush Harry into another relationship right away? They don't generally pan out if they are rebounds.