2015 Engagement List for Will, Kate, and Harry

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Curryong

Quote from: cinrit on March 13, 2015, 11:04:01 PM
Thanks from me, too, Canuck.  That's quite a list!  :)

Cindy

And from me too, Canuck. What a lot of work! :thumbsup:

Canuck

No problem, all!  Except for Will's trip it's never all that much work -- updating every few weeks make it easy.

Limabeany

So, Kate has worked 13 "days" and vacationed 15, two more days of work and she will have broken even! Go Kate!  :hehe:
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

Canuck

#78
I don't think there's anything scheduled for tomorrow, so here's an update as of the end of March.  Also, from earlier in the month, I added the receptions Will and Harry went to after the Afghanistan service.

JANUARY

Will
None

Kate
January 15: Clore Art Room opening
January 16: Fostering Network visit
January 19: Family Friends coffee
January 19: Kensington Aldridge Academy visit
January 19: Kensington Leisure Centre opening

Harry
*January 9: signed book of condolence for Charlie Hebdo
January 14: Coach Core graduation session
*January 23: met with 65 Degrees North (ice cap challenge team)

FEBRUARY

Will
February 24: investiture at BP
February 24: Royal Foundation Chairman's Dinner at KP
February 25: departed Heathrow for Japan
February 26: arrived in Japan/greeted by British ambassador
February 26: boat tour with Governor of Tokyo
February 26: tea ceremony in Hama-rikyu Gardens
February 27: lay wreath at Commonwealth cemetery
February 27: lunch with Emperor and Empress of Japan at Imperial Palace
February 27: meeting with Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Japan at Akasaka Palace
February 27: Innovation is Great launch in Tokyo
February 27: reception at British Embassy in Tokyo
February 28: visit to NHK Broadcasting Studio in Tokyo
February 28: visit to Innovation is Great display at T-Site Multimedia Store
February 28: visit to Smile Kids Park in Fukushima (with President of Japan)
February 28: dinner given by President of Japan

Kate
February 10: Bethlem and Maudsley school visit
February 11: KP reception for Palliative Care Programme for Children and Young People
February 12: visit to Ben Ainslie Racing Office in Whiteley
February 12: visit to site of new Ben Ainslie Racing Base Headquarters
February 12: reception for 1851 Trust at Spinnaker Tower
February 18: visit to Emma Bridgewater factory for EACH
February 18: visit to Action for Children at Cape Hill Children's Centre
February 24: Royal Foundation Chairman's Dinner at KP
February 25: received outgoing director of the National Portrait Gallery

Harry
February 1: RFU injured players training session
February 3: visit to Full Effect program
February 24: Royal Foundation Chairman's Dinner at KP
February 25: visit to Northumberland Wildlife Trust's Red Squirrels project
February 25: visit to Avondale House veterans charity

MARCH

Will
March 1: visit to Ishinomaki NewSea building
March 1: lay wreath at Hoyoriyama Hill Vantage Point
March 1: visit to Chime of Hope Market in Onagawa
March 1: visit Matsushima Airbase in Miyagi Prefecture
March 1: depart Tokyo and arrive Beijing/greeted by British ambassador
March 2: meeting with President of China
March 2: visit to Forbidden City
March 2: meeting with Vice President of China
March 2: opening of GREAT Festival of Creativity in Shanghai
March 2: received Founder/Executive Chairman of the Alibaba Group
March 2: received Chairman of Wanda Group
March 2: received Chairman of Sanpower
March 3: attended GREAT Festival of Creativity
March 3: Premier Skills event at Nanyang School
March 3: attend Education UK's Alumni Awards Ceremony
March 3: reopening of Heritage Building at Intercontinental Shanghai
March 3: International Wildlife Trafficking Meeting with NGOs
March 3: opened British Centre
March 3: Chinese premiere of the film Paddington
March 3: dinner for GREAT Festival
March 4: visit to Mengman Village, Xishuangbanna Dai Autonomous Prefecture
March 4: visit to Asian Elephant Sanctuary
March 4: visit to Wild Elephant Valley
March 4: visit to Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Gardens
March 4: attended Conservation on the Border Conference
March 4: departed Hong Kong for Britain
March 5: arrived at Heathrow
March 9: Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey
March 13: Afghanistan commemoration service at St. Paul's
March 13: reception at Horse Guards Parade
March 17: presentation of shamrocks to Irish Guards
*March 18: attend meetings with ambassadors with the Queen
March 27: visit to Stephen Lawrence Centre
March 27: visit to XLP in Gipsy Hill
March 27: visit to XLP mobile unit at Hazel Grove Estate
March 27: meeting of the Royal Foundation

Kate
March 9: Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey
March 11: visit to Turner Contemporary gallery
March 11: visit to Resort Studios in Margate
March 12: visit to set of Downton Abbey/Ealing Studios
March 13: Afghanistan commemoration service at St. Paul's
March 17: presentation of shamrocks to Irish Guards
March 18: visit to Home-Start at Brookhill Children's Centre
March 27: visit to Stephen Lawrence Centre
March 27: visit to XLP in Gipsy Hill
March 27: visit to XLP mobile unit at Hazel Grove Estate

Harry
March 13: Afghanistan commemoration service at St. Paul's
March 13: reception at Guildhall
March 18: reception for Walking for the Wounded
March 21: rugby match between England and France

TLLK


Macrobug

Thanks Canuck  :flower:

I think you missed PW attending the receptions of the ambassadors with QE.
GNU Terry Pratchett

Canuck

Thanks for the reminder, Macrobug!  I've added that to Will's list (with an asterisk, since it's not listed in the CC).

cinrit

Thanks, Canuck. :flower: 

SC, do you mean the engagements are close together?  Why does that matter?

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

cinrit

Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

Canuck

Doing multiple engagements in one day does have some advantages.  For one thing, it can save money (especially when some travel is required, e.g. Kate doing two engagements in Margate in one day, rather than traveling out there on two separate occasions).

TLLK

^^^I agree Canuck. Some of the kingdoms are quite small ie: Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands so it is easier for their royals to visit various provinces/cities. Spain, the UK, etc...have longer distances to consider when they're visiting.

Canuck

Time for an end-of-the-month update.

A note on Harry:  the online CC hasn't been updated yet with Canberra info, so we don't have a definite count of exactly how many discrete engagements they're counting.  But all of the press information KP released said it was one engagement (visiting the Australian War Memorial), with the rest (like having his picture taken as he reports for duty) presumably being military rather than Royal work.  I've counted it as one engagement in accordance with KP's press releases; if the CC later shows something different, I'll update accordingly.

JANUARY

Will
None

Kate
January 15: Clore Art Room opening
January 16: Fostering Network visit
January 19: Family Friends coffee
January 19: Kensington Aldridge Academy visit
January 19: Kensington Leisure Centre opening

Harry
*January 9: signed book of condolence for Charlie Hebdo
January 14: Coach Core graduation session
*January 23: met with 65 Degrees North (ice cap challenge team)

FEBRUARY

Will
February 24: investiture at BP
February 24: Royal Foundation Chairman's Dinner at KP
February 25: departed Heathrow for Japan
February 26: arrived in Japan/greeted by British ambassador
February 26: boat tour with Governor of Tokyo
February 26: tea ceremony in Hama-rikyu Gardens
February 27: lay wreath at Commonwealth cemetery
February 27: lunch with Emperor and Empress of Japan at Imperial Palace
February 27: meeting with Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Japan at Akasaka Palace
February 27: Innovation is Great launch in Tokyo
February 27: reception at British Embassy in Tokyo
February 28: visit to NHK Broadcasting Studio in Tokyo
February 28: visit to Innovation is Great display at T-Site Multimedia Store
February 28: visit to Smile Kids Park in Fukushima (with President of Japan)
February 28: dinner given by President of Japan

Kate
February 10: Bethlem and Maudsley school visit
February 11: KP reception for Palliative Care Programme for Children and Young People
February 12: visit to Ben Ainslie Racing Office in Whiteley
February 12: visit to site of new Ben Ainslie Racing Base Headquarters
February 12: reception for 1851 Trust at Spinnaker Tower
February 18: visit to Emma Bridgewater factory for EACH
February 18: visit to Action for Children at Cape Hill Children's Centre
February 24: Royal Foundation Chairman's Dinner at KP
February 25: received outgoing director of the National Portrait Gallery

Harry
February 1: RFU injured players training session
February 3: visit to Full Effect program
February 24: Royal Foundation Chairman's Dinner at KP
February 25: visit to Northumberland Wildlife Trust's Red Squirrels project
February 25: visit to Avondale House veterans charity

MARCH

Will
March 1: visit to Ishinomaki NewSea building
March 1: lay wreath at Hoyoriyama Hill Vantage Point
March 1: visit to Chime of Hope Market in Onagawa
March 1: visit Matsushima Airbase in Miyagi Prefecture
March 1: depart Tokyo and arrive Beijing/greeted by British ambassador
March 2: meeting with President of China
March 2: visit to Forbidden City
March 2: meeting with Vice President of China
March 2: opening of GREAT Festival of Creativity in Shanghai
March 2: received Founder/Executive Chairman of the Alibaba Group
March 2: received Chairman of Wanda Group
March 2: received Chairman of Sanpower
March 3: attended GREAT Festival of Creativity
March 3: Premier Skills event at Nanyang School
March 3: attend Education UK's Alumni Awards Ceremony
March 3: reopening of Heritage Building at Intercontinental Shanghai
March 3: International Wildlife Trafficking Meeting with NGOs
March 3: opened British Centre
March 3: Chinese premiere of the film Paddington
March 3: dinner for GREAT Festival
March 4: visit to Mengman Village, Xishuangbanna Dai Autonomous Prefecture
March 4: visit to Asian Elephant Sanctuary
March 4: visit to Wild Elephant Valley
March 4: visit to Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Gardens
March 4: attended Conservation on the Border Conference
March 4: departed Hong Kong for Britain
March 5: arrived at Heathrow
March 9: Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey
March 13: Afghanistan commemoration service at St. Paul's
March 13: reception at Horse Guards Parade
March 17: presentation of shamrocks to Irish Guards
*March 18: attend meetings with ambassadors with the Queen
March 27: visit to Stephen Lawrence Centre
March 27: visit to XLP in Gipsy Hill
March 27: visit to XLP mobile unit at Hazel Grove Estate
March 27: meeting of the Royal Foundation

Kate
March 9: Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey
March 11: visit to Turner Contemporary gallery
March 11: visit to Resort Studios in Margate
March 12: visit to set of Downton Abbey/Ealing Studios
March 13: Afghanistan commemoration service at St. Paul's
March 17: presentation of shamrocks to Irish Guards
March 18: visit to Home-Start at Brookhill Children's Centre
March 27: visit to Stephen Lawrence Centre
March 27: visit to XLP in Gipsy Hill
March 27: visit to XLP mobile unit at Hazel Grove Estate

Harry
March 13: Afghanistan commemoration service at St. Paul's
March 13: reception at Guildhall
March 18: reception for Walking for the Wounded
March 21: rugby match between England and France

APRIL

Will
April 25: Gallipoli wreath laying ceremony

Kate
None

Harry
April 6: visit to Australian War Memorial
April 22: arrived in Istanbul
April 24: reception on HMS Bulwark
April 24: attended international service at Abide
April 24: attended Commonwealth and Ireland service at Helles
April 24: attended French service at Morto Bay
April 25: attended dawn service at ANZAC Cove
April 25: attended breakfast reception
April 25: attended Australian service at Lone Pine
April 25: attended Service of Thanksgiving at the 57th Regiment Memorial
April 25: attended New Zealand service at Chunuk Bair
April 25: arrived in UK from Turkey
April 26: presented prizes at London marathon

Curryong

Thank you very much for collating all that, Canuck. Good grief, William certainly excelled himself in March, but then went back to his usual numbers in April. Interesting too, that Kate had ten engagements in March, cramming them in before going into retirement in April.

Canuck

I think that's because of the other things they were doing.  Will seems to have spent the bulk of April getting through his helicopter training so it would be done before the baby came.  Kate, obviously, started her maternity leave at the beginning of the month, in line with how BRF maternity leaves generally go (stopping engagements a few weeks before the due date). 

Harry is actually in the same boat -- he did a bunch of engagements in April, but all but two came in that two-day period he was in Turkey for the commemorations.  Otherwise, he's been tied up with his military work. 

Limabeany

"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

TLLK

Quote from: Canuck on April 30, 2015, 03:01:27 PM
I think that's because of the other things they were doing.  Will seems to have spent the bulk of April getting through his helicopter training so it would be done before the baby came.  Kate, obviously, started her maternity leave at the beginning of the month, in line with how BRF maternity leaves generally go (stopping engagements a few weeks before the due date). 

Harry is actually in the same boat -- he did a bunch of engagements in April, but all but two came in that two-day period he was in Turkey for the commemorations.  Otherwise, he's been tied up with his military work. 
Great summary of the April events and in the months before @Canuck.

Canuck

As I've said repeatedly, everyone is free to come to their own conclusions about what things constitute "work".  But I'm making a list of engagements, and the BRF has always included arrivals and departures from foreign travel in its reporting of engagements. 

TLLK

Quote from: Canuck on April 30, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
As I've said repeatedly, everyone is free to come to their own conclusions about what things constitute "work".  But I'm making a list of engagements, and the BRF has always included arrivals and departures from foreign travel in its reporting of engagements. 
And I predict that you'll repeat this again for May, June, July...etc... :P

Limabeany

#93
I have to agree, how can "departed Heathrow for Japan" be an engagement for William? That is embarassingly absurd of Kap and the BRF.

And, for Kate, how can "going to Ben Kingsley racing office" and "going to Ben Kingsley Headquarters" be two separate engagements???  :orchid:
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

Lady Adams

"To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing." --Elbert Hubbard, American writer

Canuck

Quote from: Limabeany on May 01, 2015, 01:52:50 AM
I have to agree, how can "departed Heathrow for Japan" be an engagement for William? That is embarassingly absurd of Kap and the BRF.

For the same reason arriving in Istanbul is an engagement for Harry:  the BRF has always listed international arrivals and departures in the CC.  Which isn't intended to be a definitive list of "this is all of the work done by members of the Royal family", though because of engagement tallies being popular in the press there's a tendency to report it that way. 

QuoteAnd, for Kate, how can "going to Ben Kingsley racing office" and "going to Ben Kingsley Headquarters" be two separate engagements???  :orchid:

I explained that back when those engagements were first posted.  Those are two separate locations in two different cities -- one is the current base of operations where Kate visited to see the racing technology and press were not allowed because they didn't want their racing secrets to be given away.  The second was the visit to the construction site for the new headquarters, where Kate met with student artists working on the mural as well as some of the construction workers.

tiaras

#96
I agree with @snokitty but this is how the system's run. So, the problem is not specifically William and Kate it is with the system. The Monarchy as a whole in contemporary times raises a lot of questions, but as long as there are no complains and protests to overthrow them, they will remain and continue.

Also @Canuck was just explaining and answering your Questions.

Limabeany

#97
Quote from: Canuck on May 01, 2015, 03:24:02 AM
Quote from: Limabeany on May 01, 2015, 01:52:50 AM
I have to agree, how can "departed Heathrow for Japan" be an engagement for William? That is embarassingly absurd of Kap and the BRF.

For the same reason arriving in Istanbul is an engagement for Harry:  the BRF has always listed international arrivals and departures in the CC.  Which isn't intended to be a definitive list of "this is all of the work done by members of the Royal family", though because of engagement tallies being popular in the press there's a tendency to report it that way. 

QuoteAnd, for Kate, how can "going to Ben Kingsley racing office" and "going to Ben Kingsley Headquarters" be two separate engagements???  :orchid:

I explained that back when those engagements were first posted.  Those are two separate locations in two different cities -- one is the current base of operations where Kate visited to see the racing technology and press were not allowed because they didn't want their racing secrets to be given away.  The second was the visit to the construction site for the new headquarters, where Kate met with student artists working on the mural as well as some of the construction workers.
I disagree @Canuck  and I wasn't talking about Harry, but about two specific incidents, I don't see why you used Harry because I did not mention Harry or William's arrivals, surely you can defend William on his own merits without using Harry, Harry's departure from Heathrow is not an engagement, why should it be for William!? Departing Heathrow is hardly reasonable to call an engagement unless Cameron went to say goodbye personally. And, I didn't question William's arrival, why didn't younuse that to defend William instead of Harry who was not mentioned. 

As for Kate... It was part of the same engagement on the same day in Portsmouth. Not traveling to different cities or even different charities. What next? Departing KP will be an engagement for William and going from room to room separate engagements for Kate?

http://www.ybw.com/pictures/kate-middleton-visits-ben-ainslie-racing-portsmouth-9893
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

Canuck

I'm not telling you what to do.  If you want to not count any or all of the engagements listed, by all means go ahead.  But when someone says that theres an error in the list (like two engagements actually being the same thing, for example), I'm obviously going to respond and explain why those things are listed as they are. 

@Limabeany, the first Ben Ainslie office visit was not in Portsmouth.  It was at the old office in Whiteley, 11 miles from Portsmouth.  Press were not allowed at that part, but Ben Ainslie talked about it in articles so it's confirmed that it happened.

As for airplane arrivals and departures, I mentioned Harry because he's the only one who had one of those added this month.  But the same applies to Will, Kate, and every other member of the BRF:  when arriving or departing on international trips, the CC lists those things.  That means the engagement totals published at the end of the year--for everyone--include those things.  I agree they're not separate work, but if you want an apples-to-apples comparison with people like Charles, Anne, Sophie, or even Diana's old tallies, then you'll want to include those things in your tally from the younger Royals.  If you want a number that just includes what you think is real work, then you may not want to include them (or include only the ones where the arrival/departure included meeting with a dignitary).  But either way, I'm going to keep listing them.

Canuck

Or perhaps people don't agree as to a single "point" in keeping track of engagements, which is why I started a thread of my own.

Yes, someone could look at the CC.  But it's a very badly designed website, and searching through for each of the younger Royals and tallying up separate engagements (as well as identifying those that never made it onto the online CC, which happens semi-regularly) is time-consuming and annoying.  I wanted to keep a running list somewhere that would let people see at a glance every engagement for all three of W/K/H, as a more convenient reference.  If you don't find it helpful, then by all means don't use it.  I do find it helpful, and hopefully some of the other members of this forum do as well.