Princes William and Harry to learn 'truth’ of Diana murder claims

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PrincessOfPeace

QuoteWhen Scotland Yard confirmed in August that it had begun an investigation into claims that Diana, Princess of Wales was murdered by a member of the British Armed Forces, no one was more surprised than members of the Royal family.

Now, the Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry are to be told whether there was any truth in the sensational new allegations.
More: Princes William and Harry to learn 'truth’ of Diana murder claims - Telegraph

pagtwashin

I have never seen any of this. Yes she was bulimic.  She experienced despondency. Nobody has ever diagnosed her as misery from Borderline Personality Disorder,  In any case since psychiatric reports are secret it is extremely unlikely that any of this might ever be affirmed by a specialist.


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sandy

Penny Junor was the one who said she had Borderline Personality Disorder. Junor has no qualifications to make diagnoses and she adores Charles and Camilla.  She got treatment for an eating disorder and got it under control.

Trudie

Quote from: pagtwashin on April 16, 2014, 07:17:06 AM
I have never seen any of this. Yes she was bulimic.  She experienced despondency. Nobody has ever diagnosed her as misery from Borderline Personality Disorder,  In any case since psychiatric reports are secret it is extremely unlikely that any of this might ever be affirmed by a specialist.


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What does Diana's mental state have to do with this thread or the article?. I firmly believe Diana was murdered in what was staged as a car crash. Diana had an eating disorder which as successfully treated before she died and as for this quack armchair diagnoses by Penny Junor she is as qualified as any member on this forum without a medical license to make such claim in her unabashed hatred toward Diana.



sara8150

Let Diana rest in peace and leave William and Harry alone! If the brothers wanted comments on his mother's accident or NOT! But Diana been gone for 17 years since 1997..

William and Harry wanted truth on his mom's accident and need justice so badly!! And his mom wouldn't bring back it's hard for brothers

But Paris and London authority would cover this story on late Diana,princess of Wales like 24/7 I don't think so!

FanDianaFancy

I am a fan of PD.
The Penny  Junors who take  on these  wild  accusastions of  attacking a dead woman in order to  gain favor and/or keep for with King Charles and Queen Camilla to be  ARE NOT ENDEARING themselves to  PW and PH.

This  reprot  is  awful  for them.
People like  the Penny Junors  are  awful people.

Facts FACTS are:
PD  was not manic depressive, schzo, Bi-Polar, crazy,etc.
She  had  an eating disorder  during her  early  20's  due to the pressures  of  she had Charles and Camilla, new mom, lack of self-esteem, no  good, solid personal life of  a husband, mother, etc.

She had. Had. past tense. She  sought treatment and  found herslef, got it together way back when she had  this eating disorder in the 1980's. Early 1980's.

She  loved her sons and was a good mother. That cannot be disputed even it it is by  some low  people here, there,  wherever.

The princes lost their mother, they loved very much  at  PW's teen years and PH's preteen years.

PD  died   , was killed in a car crash because she did not take the proper security  she needed being PD. Being mother to PW adn PH. Being jsut who she was.
She  should have taken her own security team. TRJ was not a security team.
her fault.

Andre Paul was off duty, then called on-duty.  He was drunk. His fault.

DF  should  have, could, stayed at his home at the  Paris -Ritz.
His fault.

PD  could have, should have insisted that they  ,it being alte, the paps  were on them, just stay at his home at  P-R Hotel. Her fault.
Andre Paul  drove that tank of  automobile  and crahsed it like a tin can which  is  nearly  impossible to do unlesssssss, you drive at rapid speed and lose control and hit  metal walls, concrete walls and  he did. His fault.

The paps  on motorcycles...their fault.

There is  enough fault there to go around.

The real story  is simply  it  was a tragic   accident.

Some people like conspiracies  for everything.  Really, things can just happen as they  happen.  They simply happen as they are. No conspiracy.



The let her RIP, well , yes when it comes to this  stuff  of  the Muslims did. PC did it. The  BRF did it.
Nonsense. All of it.

FACTS' If she were alive, she  would be very proud  of  PW's life and PH's life as men.
She  would have been close to her children and they to her.

Sad it happend as it did.

Her legacy  is  her sons. Her passions for her work then. Her imapct   on the things she did and causes she supported.
Her grandchildren.


Her sons and grandchildren can be proud  to be from her.


Queen Camilla

Diana had an eating disorder while still in school.

Diana died because she wasn't wearing a seat belt.


sandy

QC you were not at the scene--you don't know the circumstances. The seat belt could have been malfunctioning that day.  Diana did not just get into a car and say gosh, I think I'll risk my life and not buckle up. You have no idea what happened. Diana was never blamed for causing her own death.  Diana died because she was in a car accident.  And the inquest never blamed Diana for it so why should you even if you don't care for the woman?

An eating disorder is treatable. Diana was happy and healthy in school and pre marriage as testimony from her employers and friends. There are no skin and bones photos of Diana as a teenager. The skin and bones photos came after the marriage. It is on record.  Stress from a lying cheating husband and his mistress can bring on bulimia if a person is predisposed to it. Her sister had it too and also got it under control.

Limabeany

According to the rental company, the seat belt did not work and according to Mercedes Benz, they were denied access to the vehicle to inspect it after the crash to find out if the car had a problem...
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

cinrit

I've never read anything about the seat belt not working.  Considering that no one was wearing seat belts, were they all not working?  It's hard to imagine a limousine rental company would allow a car to be rented and driven with seat belts malfunctioning. :o

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

sandy

I read about the seat belts not working in some articles. It should be recalled that this was a last minute switch of cars and drivers and the auto they used had just only recently been repaired. But what's the point of blaming Diana for not putting on the belt (and they could possibly not have worked and she would not cackle and think hey I think I'll risk my life and not buckle up--nobody knows what was said to her or what she said in the car--Rhys Jones has selective memory). The ruling was an auto accident not that Diana did not put on her seat belts. And nobody knows if she would have survived with the seatbelts on in any case. What did her in was the long long trip to the hospital--I think if she had gotten to the hospital sooner she would have had a chance and I am not the only one who commented on the overlong trip to the hospital. When I see news reports about accidents and people airlifted from them I think why could not Diana have been airlifted?

Limabeany

Quote from: cinrit on April 25, 2014, 02:37:22 PM
I've never read anything about the seat belt not working.  Considering that no one was wearing seat belts, were they all not working?  It's hard to imagine a limousine rental company would allow a car to be rented and driven with seat belts malfunctioning. :o

Cindy
The ones in the back weren't working and that was the only Mercedes available for rental left at that time in the company when it was rented, but it was not originally rented for this purpose, there was a last minute switch of cars...

Agreed, Sandy, at that hour of night, it was, at best, a 15 minute trip to the Hospital, I read, yet, it took over an hour...
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

cinrit

Is there an official ruling about that?  The two passengers in the front seat weren't wearing seat belts, either.  It was initially believed that the PO was wearing one, but it turned out he was not.  Nor was the driver.

Either way, urban legend or fact, Diana was not wearing a seat belt and it did contribute to her death.  But no one is blaming her for not wearing one.  In almost every (maybe every) accident report, if there is a fatality, it is reported whether or not the person was wearing their seat belt.  It's not meant as a critique, only as a fact to maybe inspire more people to remember to wear theirs.

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

sandy

Some reports say Rhys Jones wore seatbelts. Logically as a security officer he would have told all in the car to buckle up. He lost some of his memory so what happened among the people in that car will never be truly known so it is not fair to conclude Diana is to blame because she didn't "buckle up." Maybe she did but the seatbelts were broken in the back.  There may not have been ample opportunity to inspect the car given that it was a last minute replacement.

I would not say that "nobody" blames Diana for not wearing them. The posts about this by some IMO sound very judgmental and it is used to slam Diana.

It went to Diana's grave with her what happened re the seatbelts.

The fact that it took her so long to get to the hospital should not be overlooked. That is why accident victims are airlifted to get them help ASAP not put in a very slow ambulance that does not have all the help that the patient would need to survive.

cinrit

There's a difference between how French medical teams handle car accidents of this magnitude, and the way the U.S. handles them.  The ambulance drivers followed France's regulations by trying to stabilize Diana on the scene before leaving.  Diana also went into cardiac arrest and had to be resuscitated via CPR before the ambulance could leave the scene.

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

TLLK

Quote from: cinrit on April 25, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
There's a difference between how French medical teams handle car accidents of this magnitude, and the way the U.S. handles them.  The ambulance drivers followed France's regulations by trying to stabilize Diana on the scene before leaving.  Diana also went into cardiac arrest and had to be resuscitated via CPR before the ambulance could leave the scene.

Cindy
This is true. I'm not sure how this is handled in the UK ,but there are big difference between the U.S. and France with the procedure. My brother was killed in a car accident in 1992. The jeep he was a passenger in was sideswiped by another vehicle. Seat belts were only available in the front seats and my brother was seated in the rear. The accident occurred near a California Highway Patrol office so they were on the scene very quickly as were the fire/paramedic units. He was just minutes away from the Univ. of California Irvine Medical Center which was the regional trauma center. Unfortunately he sustained almost identical injuries as Diana. He was 23, she was 36. Both were young and healthy which would have prompted any trauma team to work for as long as possible. However, their injuries were just too severe and loss of blood (exsanguination) would have been a leading cause of death. Fortunately there were no other fatalities in my brother's accident.

The rate of speed, the narrow lanes and support structures in the Pont de Alma tunnel, lack of car restraints more than likely all played a part in the deaths of three people that evening.  :no:

cinrit

I'm sorry about your brother, TLLK.  Losing a sibling is so heartbreaking.

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

Limabeany

I'm sorry, TLLK.  :hug:


True... There's much more to that...
Quote from: sandy on April 25, 2014, 04:34:54 PM
The fact that it took her so long to get to the hospital should not be overlooked. That is why accident victims are airlifted to get them help ASAP not put in a very slow ambulance that does not have all the help that the patient would need to survive.
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

SophieChloe

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

Eri

TLLK  :hug: ...as for Di I am no expert but Ive heard that her injuries didn't permit the ambulance to go on full speed or she would have died in the ambulance again given the severity of her injuries that makes sense to me but again I am no expert ...

SophieChloe

I suppose we will never know why they took that decision.   That is why questions will always be asked.   
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

Limabeany

Quote from: Eri on April 25, 2014, 07:57:50 PM
TLLK  :hug: ...as for Di I am no expert but Ive heard that her injuries didn't permit the ambulance to go on full speed or she would have died in the ambulance again given the severity of her injuries that makes sense to me but again I am no expert ...
As I said, once, I am no believer in conspiracy theories but the amount of inconsistencies, questions and preventing people from further investigating convinced me there is stuff to hide and very few would have a reason to ask for and obtain those favors... The ambulance couldn't go on full speed because of her injuries? That is when they are supposed to go full speed...
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

Eri

^ But when you have internal bleeding you can't be on a speeding ambulance or you would die in the ambulance but I guess someone who knows more than me can explain it better ... besides that she did go on the Hospital and they operated her for an hour (if I am not mistaken) so ...

Limabeany

Over an hour versus fifteen minutes, I don't think anything can justify that...
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

cinrit

I believe they stopped twice to give her CPR, so that would slow them down.  Also, the impact had thrown her heart to the right side of her chest, tearing some pulmonary vein which affects both the heart and the lungs.  She was bleeding massively internally, so yes, any bump or sudden start/stop would have killed her immediately.  Once the ambulance left the scene of the accident, they got to the hospital in about 30 minutes.

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.