Books, films, exhibits, and television programs about Diana Part 2

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Duch_Luver_4ever

Welcome to Part 2 of Books, films, exhibits and television programs about Diana.

  The Previous topic can be found here. Books, films and television programs about Diana

So this will have to tide us over till the board comes back. What did you all think of the 2 recent specials about Diana?
"No other member of the Royal Family mattered that year, or I think for the next 17 years, it was just her." Arthur Edwards, The Sun Photographer, talking about Diana's impact.

Mike

Dancing with Diana: Princess wowed audience in surprise appearance

Dancing with Diana: Princess wowed audience in surprise appearance - 48 Hours Videos - CBS News

Where is the Diana forum?
Mark Twain:
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it."
and
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."


wannable

Quote
EDEN CONFIDENTIAL: First viewings of Spencer, a harrowing new film about Diana, have caused outrage, with Hollywood star Kristen Stewart portraying the Princess as an emotionally unstable woman who self-harms and breaks down in front of a young Prince William.

But writer Steven Knight claims his screenplay is informed by 'first-hand accounts' from people who were intimately acquainted with 'those involved'.

Speaking after a screening at the Curzon Mayfair, Knight says he 'promised not to reveal their names', but adds that there is 'oddness in every family in the world'. The film is about 'distilling the madness of this particular family'.

Let's hope the Queen doesn't take back Knight's CBE.

Curryong

Who?s  ?outraged?? The innumerable self proclaimed ?royal experts? and ?tabloid commentators? that crawl out of the woodwork at every opportunity, giving us their breathless opinions, mainly on the Sussexes? Or who? The reviews I?ve read of the film aren?t overwhelmingly critical. In fact they aren?t bad at all, praising various aspects of the film, including Stewart?s acting, and criticising others, the work of dispassionate film reviewers doing their job.

If the British (and US, Commonwealth) public want to go and see the film then they?ll go and see it, regardless of the opinions of the self-appointed media defenders of Diana and her sons. Their indignation is in itself is both hilarious and ?hypocritical? (an accusation often levelled by the above at Harry for years.) If they don?t like the look of it then the public won?t go to see it and the film will fail.

As for the RF, the Queen won?t be taking any action, and neither will the rest. There?ll be almost certainly no public statement. Harry and William are unlikely to watch this or any other film about their mother. They have their own memories.

wannable

Another one

Diana (2021) - IMDbhttps://www.imdb.com ? title
18 hours ago ? The dazzling and devastating life of Princess Diana takes center stage in this original musical, filmed in advance of its official Broadway opening.
Rating: 4.5/10

Netflix claims their subscription went up.

TLLK

'Diana: A True Musical Story' Details: Everything to Know About the Princess Diana Broadway Show

QuoteDiana: A True Musical Story, a new production about the late Princess of Wales, had to postpone its opening due to the coronavirus outbreak. While originally set to open March 31, 2020 the show is now scheduled to debut on Broadway this November. The musical originated at the La Jolla Playhouse in California and later this year, it will play at the Longacre Theatre to a much larger audience. However, you'll be able to see the new musical from your own home at an earlier date. Here is everything we know about Diana:
The musical premiered on Netflix ahead of the Broadway opening.

A filmed version of Diana is now available to stream on Netflix. The new Diana movie was filmed in 2020 without an audience at the Longacre Theater and features the original Broadway cast.

?The chance to share our show, first with Netflix?s global audience, and then welcoming a live audience back on Broadway, is something we?ve all been dreaming about for more than a year. We could not be more thrilled to finally share both the film and the Broadway musical with the world,? the Diana producers said in a joint statement.

LouisFerdinand

@TLLK, Thank you for the mention of Diana: Princess of Wales by Penny Junor.


Curryong

Why? That book only went up to the birth of Prince William and, according to Goodreads readers, contained very little that hadn?t been published before. Penny was always a Charles fanatic and even what she wrote in 1982 was full of innuendos about Diana?s instability, moods etc. I have Junor?s book ?Charles, Victim or Villain?? and it?s more of the same.

Of all the bios published about Diana that I?ve read  I?d place Junor?s only slightly ahead of Lady CC?s and that?s only because of the latter author?s downright lies about her subject as well as her bias. Junor?s merely has her bias oozing out of every page.

TLLK

Quote from: Curryong on October 13, 2021, 11:11:21 PM
Why? That book only went up to the birth of Prince William and, according to Goodreads readers, contained very little that hadn?t been published before. Penny was always a Charles fanatic and even what she wrote in 1982 was full of innuendos about Diana?s instability, moods etc. I have Junor?s book ?Charles, Victim or Villain?? and it?s more of the same.

Of all the bios published about Diana that I?ve read  I?d place Junor?s only slightly ahead of Lady CC?s and that?s only because of the latter author?s downright lies about her subject as well as her bias. Junor?s merely has her bias oozing out of every page.

@Curryong- @LouisFerdinand had asked the board in his earlier post which was in the Part 1 thread, if anyone knew which were some  of the first books written about the Princess of Wales and this was the one that I'd found.

You can find his post on Page 16 and my reply on page 17 the old thread. Books, films and television programs about Diana

Curryong

Ooh, right, TLLK. Sorry I misunderstood the question. I didn?t read the last posts in Part 1.

Having said that, and I do apologise for it, I stand 110% behind what I said about Junor?s book. I was a fan of Diana from the beginning, before the engagement, and read everything I could about her. I remember the first Diana bios were very much cut and paste jobs from press reports about the engagement, wedding etc, and to a certain extent that remained true until after the mid 1980s when rumours about the Charles/Diana marriage were gathering apace.

In other words, the Press kept a tight handle on the fairy tale narrative until it became impossible for them to do so, and so my advice to anyone regarding Diana bios is to stay away from very early ones except for contrast and compare coverage purposes. 

TLLK

@Curryong-Apology accepted.  :shake: Perhaps you could recommend  early biographies of Diana that you found to be better?

Curryong

No, I can?t I?m afraid. Most of the early bios were generic and peddled the fairytale aspect. I remember getting one of the wedding from the library which must have been published early and had photos and recounted details I?d forgotten. No jumping on the Internet for clips on YouTube or other streamers in those days!

And we didn?t get a really full rounded picture of Diana?s life from the Press or anybody else until after the mid 1980s when the tabloids had lost control of the ?everything is marvellous? narrative and things started to come out which gave a picture of the true state of affairs.

I was exactly the same as everyone else and thought it was all wonderful until stories started appearing of Charles spending a great deal of time away from his family. I didn?t swallow the KoolAid about the fairy tale marriage  after more vivid accounts of the couple?s lives together began appearing. And I didn?t and don?t totally believed Morton?s book either. Don?t like completely one-sided accounts of anyone. To me the Housekeeper?s Diary (banned in Britain) was more authentic.

If Junor had more information than she wrote in that early account I don?t know. However I?ve never read any book of hers about Diana and Charles that hasn?t ever so subtly shaded Diana while seemingly praising her or that hasn?t made copious excuses for Charles?s behaviour during his marriage.

LouisFerdinand

Did any of the authors who wrote a book about Princess Diana actually interview her father Earl Spencer?



Princess Cassandra

Quote from: LouisFerdinand on October 14, 2021, 10:43:36 PM
Did any of the authors who wrote a book about Princess Diana actually interview her father Earl Spencer?
Wasn't he still recovering from a stroke when she was married, and he died before their marriage ended, so probably not.

sara8150

Quote from: LouisFerdinand on October 14, 2021, 10:43:36 PM
Did any of the authors who wrote a book about Princess Diana actually interview her father Earl Spencer?

QuoteWhen her dad had stroke since 1978 till 1992 for 14 years and he died in 1992 due heart attack and pneumonia

In 1978, Spencer had suffered a severe stroke, from which, at one stage, he was not expected to recover, and which kept him in hospital for eight months. Shortly before his death he was hospitalised for pneumonia.He died of a heart attack in 1992, and was succeeded by his son Charles.

I don?t think Diana interview her dad it?s Andrew Morton

sara8150

Quote from: Princess Cassandra on November 05, 2021, 06:09:56 AM
Wasn't he still recovering from a stroke when she was married, and he died before their marriage ended, so probably not.


Yes her dad never missed his four children got married and birth of grandchildren till his death in March 1992 before Diana and Charles got separated in November 1992 after Diana?s dad death

Curryong

I don?t think that anyone seeing Earl Spencer escorting his daughter down the aisle at St Paul?s on Diana and Charles?s wedding day would have said that here was a man in top physical condition. One of the reasons that John Spencer was so devoted to his wife Raine, appalling though she was in several other respects IMO, was that she expended huge amounts of time and energy in getting him well again after his stroke. There was nothing she wouldn?t try to get him back to normal.

Unfortunately I don?t think he was the same man after his stroke in 1978 in spite of all the TLC. Between 1978 and 1981 I believe his and his wife?s sole focus was in getting better. Although he was always very jolly when encountering people and talking briefly about Diana in the run up to the nuptials I don?t think he would have been capable of a long sit down interview.

His speech, memory and comprehension had to be brought back to scratch, and that was so for several years. Courtiers who met him around the time of Diana?s engagement described him as nice, jolly but rather ?out of it? for much of the time.

In those first busy years of Diana?s marriage she and her father probably didn?t meet that often for long discussions on her marriage. Afterwards, as the union disintegrated Johnny probably didn?t want to do interviews about his daughter and son in law.

sara8150

Quote from: Curryong on November 05, 2021, 07:58:48 PM
I don?t think that anyone seeing Earl Spencer escorting his daughter down the aisle at St Paul?s on Diana and Charles?s wedding day would have said that here was a man in top physical condition. One of the reasons that John Spencer was so devoted to his wife Raine, appalling though she was in several other respects IMO, was that she expended huge amounts of time and energy in getting him well again after his stroke. There was nothing she wouldn?t try to get him back to normal.

Unfortunately I don?t think he was the same man after his stroke in 1978 in spite of all the TLC. Between 1978 and 1981 I believe his and his wife?s sole focus was in getting better. Although he was always very jolly when encountering people and talking briefly about Diana in the run up to the nuptials I don?t think he would have been capable of a long sit down interview.

His speech, memory and comprehension had to be brought back to scratch, and that was so for several years. Courtiers who met him around the time of Diana?s engagement described him as nice, jolly but rather ?out of it? for much of the time.

In those first busy years of Diana?s marriage she and her father probably didn?t meet that often for long discussions on her marriage. Afterwards, as the union disintegrated Johnny probably didn?t want to do interviews about his daughter and son in law.

Absolutely I?m agreeing with you


Curryong

Harry doesn?t have any influence over Netflix productions like ?The Crown? and what so-called ?Royal experts? (who appointed them, lol) demand is of no relevance whatsoever. Neither Harry, the producers of ?The Crown? nor the audience who view it, won?t be losing one moment of sleep over what this ragtag collection of Journalistic hacks and commentators want to happen or not happen.