William is calling on Sun readers to pen a poetic tribute

Started by Kritter, February 02, 2018, 01:37:50 PM

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Kritter

Write a poem to honour our fallen heroes from World War I and have it read out by Prince William ? plus win ?2,000

QuotePRINCE William is calling on Sun readers to pen a poetic tribute to the casualties of our armed conflicts over the past century.

The competition, A Poem To Remember, will mark the 100th anniversary of the end of World War One, plus the opening of the new ?300million Defence and ?National Rehabilitation Centre for injured servicemen and women.

WOW William is really putting himself out there.    :laugh10:

wannable

The Wales brothers have teamed up with the SUN for ages, 15 years plus.  The plan matures with years. 

Duch_Luver_4ever

First hes not doing enough, now hes doing something and its not enough, perhaps his private secretary needs to consult with the thread posters to see if his schedule passes muster...sheesh!!
"No other member of the Royal Family mattered that year, or I think for the next 17 years, it was just her." Arthur Edwards, The Sun Photographer, talking about Diana's impact.

Kritter

Asking someone else to write a poem that he will read.    :laugh10:  Some people really need to get over themselves.

royalanthropologist

It does sound a tad patronizing and self-absorbed but maybe it is just me being negative.
"In the past, people were born royal. Nowadays, royalty comes from what you do"...Gianni Versace

TLLK

Asking a talented writer who is a UK citizen to write a poem to honor the veterans of WWI seems like a reasonable and respectful request IMO.  :shrug: Especially since it will be read at an event to open a new rehabilitation facility for veterans. There are many descendants of WWI veterans and other military campaigns who might like to have this opportunity to honor those who made incredible sacrifices for their nation.

QuoteThe winner will receive ?2,000 and be present when Prince ?William reads their poem at the opening of the centre.

The Prince said: ?The centenary year of the end of the First World War is a very appropriate year to be launching a national poetry prize.

?Many of the memories of that conflict, and our understanding of it, have been shaped by the remarkable poetry ?written by those caught up in that struggle.

?As Patron of the appeal to build the Defence and National Rehabilitation Centre, I?m delighted to help launch this competition to find a new poem that, inspired by those earlier works, will have its own modern-day perspective on service, conflict and humankind?s ability to overcome adversity.

Curryong

Yes, I think it's reasonable. It would also be appropriate, one would have thought, for the British Poet Laureate to come up with something, heart rending, nostalgic, patriotic or whatever for the official occasion in November.

However I'm not holding my breath. The woman, Carol Ann Duffy, who occupies this national position is the opposite of all that the holders of this office were in the past. Doesn't like the BRF, isn't particularly patriotic, is not interested in war and won't write unless inspired by her own muse.

As a creative person myself, (I paint) that's fine IMO for a private individual (and she is a prominent poet) but not for someone who is supposed to use their poetic vision to inspire and illuminate national life and big events.

TLLK

 Thank you for the information about the current Poet Laureate @Curryong. I wonder if that was why it was opened to the public to compose a poem to honor the veterans, rather than requesting one from her. Especially if WWI, patriotism and the military are topics she would be uncomfortable writing about.

royalanthropologist

He he. Maybe I am just being a bit negative...happens sometimes :hehe: (wrong side of the bed kind of thing :teehee:)
"In the past, people were born royal. Nowadays, royalty comes from what you do"...Gianni Versace

TLLK

Also there is a possibility that the poet could be a patient at a rehabilitation center or the spouse or child of a current military veteran.

Kritter

There are a lot of things he could do for the Vets other than giving one person 15 minutes of fame. If he wants to help the Vets he can ask his Brother what he should do to help.

wannable

Of course William will read it, if not it won't be published.  That's the point, public figure, there's interest, a none public figure, no interest.  The brothers have done different kinds of military charity help with the SUN.

TLLK

Yes @wannable raising interest in the opening of the new rehabilitation center, focusing  upon the centenary of the end of WWI, drawing attention to the needs of veterans as well as providing a new or even published poet with the opportunity to share their work with the nation.

Both of the Wales brothers are considered military veterans with Harry having seen combat action.  The both have patronages that are aimed at helping active duty or veteran members of the British Armed Forces. 

Patronages: Prince Harry | The Royal Family

Patronages Prince William

wannable

 Yes, specifically with the SUN the brothers do take turns to help conjunctly in what both parties (SUN/Prince William or Harry) decide to do  :nod:

On a side note: Tinted vehicles spotted near Berks this afternoon, seems the Middleton clan are having a belated happy birthday celebration for Carole Middleton.

Kritter

Harry is the one who the public thinks of where the Military is concerned & wishing the same for William is not going to make it so.

Even if Willy had been allowed for combat action he never would have made it through. They are Brothers but are very different types of Humans.

TLLK

More about the poem appeal/competition.

Prince William launches ?modern-day? Wilfried Owen poetry competition ? Royal Central

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Wilfried Owen will always be remembered, by the young and old, as the greatest poet-fighter of the First World War. His famous line ?My subject is War, and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity??- inscribed on a memorial in the Poets? Corner in Westminster Abbey- perfectly captures a life full of battlefield-inspired sentiments.

With a mission to revive those memories, Prince William has officially kicked off the search for the modern-day Wilfried Owen, as he announced the launch a new competition to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of WWI. The competition is created by the Defence and National Rehabilitation Centre (DNRC), which is celebrating opening a new clinical rehabilitation centre for the Armed Forces in the Midlands.

?A Poem to Remember?, the name of the new competition, will seek to reflect today?s understanding of service and humanity?s readiness to overcome challenges.

Duch_Luver_4ever

Quote from: Kritter on February 03, 2018, 11:02:07 AM
There are a lot of things he could do for the Vets other than giving one person 15 minutes of fame. If he wants to help the Vets he can ask his Brother what he should do to help.

Its not about giving one person 15 minutes of his time, that time will be broadcast and printed so thousands can enjoy it, and it will raise awareness and give thanks for those who served in the great war, a historic event that greatly shaped both the UK and the RF.
"No other member of the Royal Family mattered that year, or I think for the next 17 years, it was just her." Arthur Edwards, The Sun Photographer, talking about Diana's impact.

wannable

@Kritter Wishing the same for William...Nobody needs to wish good or bad, both brothers have done this charity act with the SUN, and it is effective, it is not a case of a successful or failed military charity of one brother towards another.   It simply is they both have been there, done that, and it works. 

This joint venture with the SUN is NOT new, that you feel the need to wish William whatever you feel for him.

TLLK

QuoteIt simply is they both have been there, done that, and it works.
:nod: @wannable


Kritter

I can have whatever opinion of William I wish & I don't like him because he is a whiner lazy & ungrateful to the people that provide his lifestyle for him. Maybe Harry & Meghan will help him grow up.   :shrug:

Harry has done more for the Military especially the injured & screaming about both Brothers will not change that.

TLLK

More information on the late Wilfred Owens and the new rehabilitation center that is due to open in 2018.

Wilfred Owen - Wikipedia

Prince William launches poetry competition to find a Wilfred Owen for new generation

QuoteThe DNRC, which is funded by charitable donations, will succeed Headley Court as the UK?s leading facility for the clinical rehabilitation of sick and injured members of the Armed Forces later this year.

The building project was initiated by the late 6th Duke of Westminster, who had a distinguished 40 year service in the British Reserve Army and is said to have cared deeply about the treatment provided for those who volunteer for their country.

The state-of-the-art facility, which will be run by the Ministry of Defence, is situated near Loughborough and is designed to provide neurological and complex trauma care, and a full suite of rehabilitative facilities, together on one site.

The Duke of Cambridge and his brother Prince Harry were both major supporters of Headley Court, photographed there speaking to those undergoing rehabilitation on numerous occasions.

https://www.thednrc.org.uk/

QuoteWhen people think about rehabilitation, it is only natural for them to do so in terms of their own experiences, or those of the people closest to them. For most, this will consist of some physiotherapy sessions or an exercise programme to be followed either at their local community hospital, the local gym or at home.

For some though, such as those who have suffered major trauma ? people who have suffered very serious injury or wounding ? rehabilitation means a great deal more than this and in these cases, access to specialists and equipment not available at local level ? referred to as clinical rehabilitation ? is required.

NHS England, the Department of Health (DH) and the British Society for Rehabilitation Medicine (BSRM) use the following definition:

'Rehabilitation is a process of assessment, treatment and management by which the individual (and their family and carers) are supported to achieve their maximum potential for physical, cognitive, social and psychological function, participation in society and quality of living.'

Kritter

That is another point it really isn't about the military but finding a poet he likes. He needs to do something worth while instead of always latching onto something someone else does all the time.

TLLK

I  disagree @Kritter.  IMHO @Duch_Luver_4ever has summed up the reason for the campaign with this statement.

QuoteIts not about giving one person 15 minutes of his time, that time will be broadcast and printed so thousands can enjoy it, and it will raise awareness and give thanks for those who served in the great war, a historic event that greatly shaped both the UK and the RF
[/b] Also it will be presented at the opening of the new state-of-the-art rehab facility for wounded service personnel.

I would add that it is also an opportunity to recognize those who have raised the funds to build the new facility, to give due to those who will be treating them,  to honor those who are no longer with us and a chance to pay tribute to the service personnel who make the choice to join the armed forces and serve their nation.


The majority of the BRF men are Armed Forces veterans: DoE, PoW and DoY-Royal Navy, DoCam-RAF/SAR, Prince Harry, DoK and Prince Michael-Army so I'm not surprised to see that the HM's grandsons are involved in patronages that support military veterans.

Kritter

I disagree there are all types of remembrances for those who fought in war already so one more does nothing. The ones who really need some remembering from leaders all over are those who are still living with the tragedies that wars have brought into their lives.

Yes they all put the uniform on but with the exception of Harry none of them really know what war is.

TLLK

 I believe that you are misinformed. The DoE- WW2 and DoY (Argentina)are both combat veterans who saw battle action. Regarding. events that honor veterans we will have to agree to disagree as I believe that there are not enough of them.