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Title: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 19, 2017, 10:03:34 PM
The Duchess of Cornwall to star in Strictly Come Dancing?s Christmas special ? Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/charlesandcamilla/the-duchess-of-cornwall-to-star-in-strictly-come-dancings-christmas-special-91782)

QuoteThe Duchess of Cornwall will feature in the Christmas special of BBC One?s Strictly Come Dancing it has been revealed.

Camilla will host a special Strictly event at Buckingham Palace, and the cast and crew will be on hand to film the occasion.

The festive episode will be broadcast on Christmas Day, and along with the usual dances, will feature a film showing a tea dance at the Palace, hosted by the Duchess.

The stars of Strictly Come Dancing will also be at the event which will highlight the importance of exercising as people get older.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 20, 2017, 04:38:42 PM
I hope not.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 20, 2017, 06:52:16 PM
I think it is a great idea actually. Older people must stay active and that palace is actually the people's property. It is a great way to bring them back in . Strictly is a nice family program and I doubt it will cause offense to anyone at the palace. Would have been wonderful for the late Bruce to be there.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 20, 2017, 06:57:48 PM
Harry is criticized for dating an actress (by some in the media and in comments). I don't think Camilla going on the show would go over well either. Camilla can always exercise without going on TV.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 20, 2017, 07:34:41 PM
Camilla is not the first or last member of the BRF to be on TV. Nothing happens at BP without the queen's approval so if this is going ahead then the queen gave it the all clear. And of course, she is the one that ultimately  matters when it comes to decision-making about the use of that palace.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 20, 2017, 08:10:34 PM
Charles and Camilla appeared on a weather report show. One time. They don't spend a lot of time in "show biz."
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 20, 2017, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: royalanthropologist on November 20, 2017, 06:52:16 PM
I think it is a great idea actually. Older people must stay active and that palace is actually the people's property. It is a great way to bring them back in . Strictly is a nice family program and I doubt it will cause offense to anyone at the palace. Would have been wonderful for the late Bruce to be there.
I agree that dancing is a great form of exercise for seniors. It provides cardio benefits, helps with maintaining balance and is a great form of social interaction. With many people living longer, it's best to keep them fit for as long as possible.
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Dance as Therapy

Dance exercise also can be effective physical therapy for seniors. Dance therapy improves gait and balance in seniors, which can decrease your risk of falling, according to the April 2010 Science Daily. Dance therapy encourages seniors to move in different directions from everyday movement. This helps improve overall balance, stamina and walking speed which are major risk factors in falling. Dance therapy classes are offered in many hospitals and health centers.

Now when my own generation becomes seniors, well we'll just have to reintroduce the Pogo and the worm.  :lol: Mosh pits and stage diving might be out of the question by then. :P

I also agree that HM the Queen would have had the final word and approval for Camilla to participate as well as deciding if BP could be used for the episode. :Jen:
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: LouisFerdinand on November 20, 2017, 11:03:08 PM
Will the Duchess wear a tiara?
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 20, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
I doubt it. The Queen would probably find it disrespectful
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 21, 2017, 05:52:34 AM
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on November 20, 2017, 11:03:08 PM
Will the Duchess wear a tiara?
I doubt that she would as tiara wearing events are mostly limited to state occasions ie: Opening of Parliament and State Visit banquets.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 22, 2017, 09:00:37 AM
Quote from: sandy on November 20, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
I doubt it. The Queen would probably find it disrespectful

Queen is the boss and if it goes ahead the boss is fine with it. Everybody else does not really matter.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 22, 2017, 02:26:25 PM
I was referring royal, to the question of her wearing a tiara (responding to Louis Ferdinand. Check out the context of that reply. It was not referring to her "going ahead with it" but the question of wearing a tiara in this venue.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 22, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: royalanthropologist on November 22, 2017, 09:00:37 AM
Queen is the boss and if it goes ahead the boss is fine with it. Everybody else does not really matter.
I agree @royalanthropologist and if the "boss" okays the event and the dresscode, then as you say it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 22, 2017, 03:13:02 PM
I can't see the Queen wanting Camilla to wear a tiara at the event. Why would Camilla even consider wearing a tiara?
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 22, 2017, 03:16:11 PM
If a royal lady has  an event  that specified for gala attire on the invitation then I could see why the Queen would approve the choice.  :shrug:

However I do not believe that the Strictly Come Dancing  event one will call for gala attire. More than likely it will be a day dress or a cocktail one. :)
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 22, 2017, 03:18:34 PM
She will probably wear one of those "evening wear" outfits (velvet) with jewelry as she usually does for similar events.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: FanDianaFancy on November 22, 2017, 07:53:03 PM
I did not read the article.
I only read posts from you all.
No. Camilla will not appear in a tutu, tights, dance dress, ruffled skirt, or one of the Qll?s tiaras on. Dancing cake entertainment British tv show.

That is beneath her title and station in life.
Yes, pushing exercising for the elderly like herself is a good idea, and perhaps, there will be at the start of the show, a film video clip of he, smartly dressed in a suit , seated in one of her drawing rooms, giving a brief , scripted message about elderly exercising.

Diana danced in dancing ballet clothes to show love to her husband as a surprise to him but that was then. Diana as young, fitted. It was tasteful. It was not tv. It was still pushing it.

You are not going to see. Camilla sweating like a pig , huffing and puffing dancing.
Just like the awful, illegal paparazzi, intrusive shot of Diana at a private gym, opened legged on weight machine, was undignified, this would be the same for Camilla.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 23, 2017, 05:34:06 AM
Agreed and nothing of the sort has been suggested. Camilla knows how to conduct herself as the future consort of the UK and she actually acts her age so you won't be seeing funny antics.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 23, 2017, 07:04:31 AM
Funny antics? She and Charles do much mugging and trying to look "cute." 
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 23, 2017, 09:55:25 AM
There is an option of looking away or ignoring them? The people that Camilla invited are happy to be there and the boss also is happy so the rest is irrelevant noise.

Then thing about "mugging" and "trying to look cute". Just weird and irrelevant to the event or thread.

[gmod]Calling Members out on their opinions as being "weird" or "irrelevant" is totally unacceptable here on the Forum. Please cease to do so. [/gmod]
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 23, 2017, 12:35:27 PM
No it is not weird just because you think it is.

They do mug and try to look cute. Plenty of evidence. Camilla even crossed her eyes for a photo at the last tour she had with Charles
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 23, 2017, 12:45:44 PM
I actually think it is quite weird and irrelevant to this topic.

The stars are arriving, the queen okayed it and Camilla is happy to attend or preside or participate depending on their plans.

[gmod]Calling Members out on their opinions as being "weird" or "irrelevant" is totally unacceptable here on the Forum. Please cease to do so. [/gmod]
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 23, 2017, 12:59:54 PM
No it is not irrelevant and weird just because you say it is.

It is just more PR for Camilla. NOthing more nothing less.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 23, 2017, 01:19:26 PM
That statement about PR makes me suppose at least 3 things:

1. Ignorance about "Strictly Come Dancing"
2. Ignorance about the Osteoporosis charity
3. Ignorance about Camilla

Not everybody lives their lives on the back of PR scoops. There are much more important things to think about, particularly if you are the second most senior woman in the BRF.
[gmod] This post is extremely insulting. Are You suggesting that @sandy is "ignorant"? Again, unacceptable here. If you continue to post in this manner your posts will need to be checked in advance of posting. [/gmod]
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 23, 2017, 01:47:52 PM
No it is all PR. So a charity can be publicized, so the show can be publicized, and PR for Camilla. What else is there to know?

If there is no PR the charity would not be as well known, the show will be publicized so people will watch and more attention to Camilla.

Everything is PR. Why do you think Charles has PR? For fun?

Camilla has gotten PR since 1997 beginning with Bolland. No she's not "above it." Charles apparently thinks she needs it.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 25, 2017, 07:24:45 AM
Proves my point entirely. [edited] about how, why and for whom the event was organized.

[gmod]Please stop inferring that those that do not agree with you are "ignorant". Enough.[/gmod]
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 25, 2017, 12:43:06 PM
no, it does not "prove your point." My point is very valid.

THe royals use PR to promote themselves. Plus the causes they represent would want to be mentioned in the media. And the show needs PR.

Camilla still has PR and she had that interview and the birthday present of the Junor book to try to promote her as a "humanitarian." Does not work for some. This is another PR opportunity for Camilla whose promotion began (via PR) with her association with Bolland (Charles paid him well).

Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: royalanthropologist on November 25, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
Wrong. This is a charity event organized by the strictly come dancing team and the osteoporosis charity of which the DOC is a long term patron. I think it says more about the critical commentator than the Duchess that they seek to turn this into a PR event. The comments about grinning are just plain nasty but again freedom of expression.

The fact that some question the "humanitarian" credentials of someone in public life is entirely their choice but it does not stop Camilla from doing her work and she does it very well. Thankfully Camilla is unlikely to ever meet her most determinedly rabid critics in person, so they will be saved from being troubled by her presence at charity events. I doubt she really cares either way. Plenty of fish in the sea sort of thing...

Members of the royal family are routinely called upon to head charities and to attend evens in order to highlight good causes. This has been the system for years and it is ridiculous to pretend as if the DOC is the first member to ever do this.

Plus queen is happy, charities are happy, patron is happy. I think those parties are much more important than anyone that wishes to look out for Camilla's physical and character faults. If it does not work for them fine; but it will definitely not stop people from inviting Camilla to their events because she does her work very well as a royal consort.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 25, 2017, 03:52:28 PM
No, Right.  It is  a PR event. If it were not there would be no photos shown. The royals do have PR.

No the comments of observations of mugging are not "nasty." It is evident.

Camilla has to work, it is what she signed up for. But the royals WANT events they are involved with publicized. They are Public Figures.

How happy the Queen or any of them is, is subject to speculation.

I don't think the Queen gives much thought to Camilla's events. She has her own responsibilities.

Camilla is no raving beauty however, there is hyperbole about her calling her Glamorous and the Savior of the Monarchy.

You are preaching to the choir when you say "Members of the royal family are routinely called upon..." When did I say they weren't? You are once again putting words in my mouth. I don't 'pretend' she is the first one to do this.

Charles danced the tango pre Camilla at some event. Camilla is hardly the first.

Camilla never cared how people felt about her. Obviously. She has her PR and it took nerve to play hostess in Diana's absence when Diana was still married to Charles.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 25, 2017, 05:25:01 PM
QuoteMembers of the royal family are routinely called upon to head charities and to attend evens in order to highlight good causes. This has been the system for years and it is ridiculous to pretend as if the DOC is the first member to ever do this.

Plus queen is happy, charities are happy, patron is happy. I think those parties are much more important than anyone that wishes to look out for Camilla's physical and character faults. If it does not work for them fine; but it will definitely not stop people from inviting Camilla to their events because she does her work very well as a royal consort.
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For nearly a century the senior working members of the British Royal Family have championed various causes and charities. Depending upon the event and the member, there might be extensive media coverage or merely a mention in the Court Circular. The primary focus of reporting these events is to promote the charity or cause. (I'll choose a member of the family that has little controversy attached to them.) For example if the Duchess of Gloucester attends an engagement ie:ICYMI: Duchess of Gloucester opens £20m medical and surgical care centre at Stepping Hill Hospital ? Royal Central and there is media coverage, yes there will be a little "PR benefit" to her, but the primary purpose is to draw the public's attention to the charity. This will hopefully make the public aware of the charity and how it might benefit themselves or their community. Also, there is always the chance that the public will choose to donate time, talent and funds  to said charity or cause. :)
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: SophieChloe on November 25, 2017, 07:09:05 PM
[gmod]Please stop making this about each other. Thanks to those who are keeping On Topic :hug:[/gmod]
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 25, 2017, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: TLLK on November 25, 2017, 05:25:01 PM
:goodpost:

For nearly a century the senior working members of the British Royal Family have championed various causes and charities. Depending upon the event and the member, there might be extensive media coverage or merely a mention in the Court Circular. The primary focus of reporting these events is to promote the charity or cause. (I'll choose a member of the family that has little controversy attached to them.) For example if the Duchess of Gloucester attends an engagement ie:ICYMI: Duchess of Gloucester opens £20m medical and surgical care centre at Stepping Hill Hospital ? Royal Central and there is media coverage, yes there will be a little "PR benefit" to her, but the primary purpose is to draw the public's attention to the charity. This will hopefully make the public aware of the charity and how it might benefit themselves or their community. Also, there is always the chance that the public will choose to donate time, talent and funds  to said charity or cause. :)

I think it also is to show that the royals are giving back. For instance, William, Kate's and Harry's causes bring attention to the fact that they work in addition to the charity.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 25, 2017, 07:29:19 PM
@sandy-Yes I do agree that it does benefit the royal (from QEII through Princess Alexandra) to a small degree, but the primary focus has always been to highlight the cause and/or the charity.  :) Also IMVHO the smaller, local press tends to present the best coverage of these events and provides better information about the charities over the larger national papers and tabloids.
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: sandy on November 25, 2017, 07:56:27 PM
The headlines generally blare the name of the royals and talk is about what Kate wore and how much it is. And so on. Sometimes the charity is lost in the shuffle. IMO
Title: Re: Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
Post by: TLLK on November 25, 2017, 10:49:40 PM
^^^Yes it is unfortunate that happens with the tabloid reporting ie: Daily Fail and why I personally prefer  to cite the local papers' coverage. My experience is that they tend to focus upon the event and the charity over the fashion.